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March 6, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3441: Tectonic Plate Shift In The MAGA Movement
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matthew boyle
06:19
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steve bannon
19:00
Appearances
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chris hayes
02:21
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harry enten
02:15
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jake tapper
01:06
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joe scarborough
01:18
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kash patel
03:37
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donald j trump
00:05
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jen psaki
00:15
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joy reid
00:07
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rachel maddow
00:23
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donald j trump
...where it said this is one of the finest run campaigns that anybody has ever seen.
matthew boyle
That's pretty good, right?
unidentified
That's pretty good.
It's really a statement.
joe scarborough
And we have no choice.
unidentified
Yeah, okay.
rachel maddow
I will say that it is a decision that we revisit constantly, in terms of the balance between allowing somebody to knowingly lie on your air about things they've lied about before, and you can predict they're going to lie about, and so therefore it's irresponsible to allow them to do that.
unidentified
It's a balance between knowing that that's irresponsible to broadcast, And also knowing that as the de facto, soon to be de facto, nominee of the Republican Party, this is not only the man who is likely to be the Republican candidate for president, but this is the way he's running.
Well, here's how we balance it.
Why don't we fact check the hell out of him?
Yes, and we do that after the fact, and that is the best remedy that we've got.
It does not fix the fact that we broadcast it.
But it's stunning that he's saying these things and people are hearing it.
Let's just go through it, right?
That we have the most devastating economy.
Are you kidding me?
We have had the best economic recovery of any country in the developed world.
He's telling an audience right there, oh my goodness, the paltry oil production.
We're producing more oil today than we ever have in the history of our country.
Think about the American Rescue Plan, the infrastructure plan.
We have created more jobs, 3.2 million more jobs than we had pre-pandemic.
The problem that we do have is inflation.
And so what Donald Trump does is prey upon the fact that people don't necessarily feel good and life's expensive.
But when it comes to facts, here's something that's absolutely nonsensical and infuriating.
When people's wages go up, they credit themselves.
They say, I'm good at my job.
I just got a raise.
But when everything costs more, they blame the government.
Right.
But Republican voters don't vote that way.
They don't vote based on economics or based on the benefits they're getting economically from the president.
All the union wins in the last two years, and remember, President Biden has stood with those unions.
But Republican voters don't vote that way.
They don't vote based on economics or based on the benefits they're getting economically from the president.
They're increasingly, from the Tea Party on, they're voting on race.
They're voting on this idea of an invasion of brown people over the border.
joy reid
The idea that they can't get whatever job they want, a black person got it, therefore drive all the blacks out of the colleges, get rid of DEI.
unidentified
That is what they're voting on.
They're just voting specifically on racial Which at this stage, it isn't about economics.
No, which is why Trump killed the immigration bill.
Correct.
That's why.
jen psaki
And because otherwise he can't run against the other and brown people and people who don't look like him, like his supporters, his base of supporters coming across the border and scaring people and killing people or whatever he's threatening out there.
unidentified
I mean, if you look at some of these exit polls, I mean, I live in Virginia.
Immigration was the number one issue.
I mean, again, these could change in Virginia.
Well, Virginia does have a border with West Virginia.
Very contested.
What?
I mean, when I was in New Hampshire, people were talking about the northern border as a threat because Trump has indoctrinated people with this fear of people who do not look like them.
being a threat to them.
But as you know, I mean, and every, you know, every election cycle, when there's this, particularly when there's a Democratic incumbent, we get reminded about the borders and the borders become a thing again.
And then if there's a Republican in office, we don't think about them anymore.
It's the deficit and the border.
Like you, you make these things an issue.
You make them into boogeyman.
You make them into something that grabs you from under the bed at night.
As soon as you wake up, as long as there's a Democratic incumbent to blame on it, you make sure that nothing's ever done to fix either.
and then you hope that people stop talking about them once you've got a Republican.
harry enten
So look at these polls that came out.
Not over the weekend, right?
There were four of them.
The New York Times-Siena College poll got the most press, had Trump up four.
But it was matched by a CBS News-YouGov poll that also had Trump up four.
Fox News?
Trump up two.
Wall Street Journal?
Trump up two.
And as I mentioned when we started, the polls right now look so much different than they did in 2020.
Because keep in mind, Trump led in not a single, there were zero, count them, zero general election polls nationally that Trump led in during the 2020 campaign.
Here we have four right here.
And I want to bring this to your attention because I think this is so interesting.
Okay.
Has Trump committed serious federal crimes?
This is among likely voters.
Overall, the majority say yes.
Yes, he has.
Yet, Trump was leading in that poll.
By four points, as you see that New York Times-Siena College poll up there.
Why is that?
Because take a look at 2024 Trump supporters.
Even among them, 18% say he committed serious federal crimes, and yet they're still voting for him.
If you're Joe Biden, I just have to ask the question, what the heck are you supposed to do with polling like this?
chris hayes
The sort of defining features of American politics since 2016, particularly, and it's reflected all throughout Western democracies and OECD countries, is the intensification of educational polarization.
You see it in Austria.
When you look, what's the base of the right-wing party in Austria?
It's folks with what we would call, without a college degree, a huge bifurcation.
When you see the rise of what we would call the populist right, particularly throughout Europe, when we see it in South America, that base is the same base, and that educational polarization is getting worse and more intense in this country.
We see it in every map that Steve points to, reflected fractally within the Republican coalition.
You can pinpoint where haily voters are going to be because you look at the quotient of folks with degrees and advanced degrees, and then you run that against density, right?
Is it rural or urban?
And you know those two things, you know a lot about the electorate.
So what we have seen is basically a long-term trend in which education polarization is coming to dominate everything else.
And one of the big questions the Biden folks have to figure out.
Is how to eat back away at that trend, because that is the tide that is pulling them.
It's the tide that is pulling a lot of liberal democracies away from some of those core principles and has been the sort of wind at the back of right-wing authoritarian and populist movements.
unidentified
So how does Biden appeal to poorly educated voters?
chris hayes
Yeah, we're just voters without college degrees, which might be well-educated in other ways, you know?
I think people that feel very differently about how well the bargain of America is working for them, or how well the bargain of the global economy is working for them in the 21st century, because we've seen it in other countries.
Again, that stuff matters a lot at the margins, right?
Like five points, six points, seven points.
That's the whole ballgame.
unidentified
But I would just say that I think the person who knows and would agree with you is Trump or maybe his brain Bannon.
harry enten
I mean, that's why Biden was such a threat.
unidentified
That's why he got impeached the first time.
chris hayes
Correct.
unidentified
Because Biden was the only one that threatened that.
chris hayes
He figured out a special... I mean, he really did figure that out, and not only did he figure that out, he has clearly governed with that in mind.
If you look at where the investments have gone from the bipartisan infrastructure bill, from the CHIPS Act, and from the IRA, they have disproportionately gone to geographic areas that favor his opponent over him.
That favor Republican politics.
Well that's the question, right?
Like, there's a bet being made there.
And the question is, can you make good on that bet from a policy and messaging standpoint against the pull of all these demographic trends that Steve is going to highlight in map after map after map tonight, where we will know before it even comes up what the map's going to look like based on that data.
jake tapper
We're in the middle of a great realignment right now in the United States with educated voters becoming Democrats, wealthier voters becoming Democrats, the middle class becoming And one of the things we're seeing here, I think, is Donald Trump has in many ways, he's a key part of it, I don't know that he's the only part of it, but he's a key part of changing the makeup of the Republican Party.
Which is why Nikki Haley, who last won an election in her home state in 2014, I think, when she ran for governor the second time, lost South Carolina, but was able to win Vermont.
Because he has remade the Republican Party and Republican voters in his image.
And in fact, he has said publicly that if you're a Mitt Romney Republican or a Nikki Haley Republican, he doesn't want you in the party.
That's a good way to make the party in your own image.
I don't know if it's a good way to win an election in November, but it's a good way to win a primary and remake the party.
joe scarborough
Start your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you the truth.
And F you if you can't handle the truth.
This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.
Not a close second.
And I've known him for years.
The Brzezinskis have known him for 50 years.
If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it.
And you read the New Yorker interview.
Don't think it's going to make a huge difference in Oshkosh, or the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.
But if you want to know the truth, if you really give a damn, if anybody out there gives a damn about the truth, read that interview.
And you'll sit and read through that and go, oh my God.
There's just no comparison between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
Historians will look back and they will say, Why was this race close in February and early March?
Because it makes no sense.
And you've been around Biden enough to know.
He's not going to run a 4-2-2 at the combines.
unidentified
No.
joe scarborough
But he might damn well save Western democracy from Russia.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
joe scarborough
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 6th March in the year of our Lord.
There you see the meltdown, actually some pretty good analysis we'll get to in a second, but the complete total meltdown of the radical left media as they understand right now that President Trump is ascendant, the MAGA movement is ascendant, the deplorables are essentially taking over the country and they don't like it.
We're going to get into a lot, we're going to break down a lot of what happened last night, what it means, and particularly we're going to spend a lot of time focusing Hopefully if we can pull this off in Texas as you know been very focused on Texas there.
It is the MAGA movement and President Trump against the Bush Rove Junta and last night the Junta took it on the chops just some amazing results.
We'll get into that in a minute We're gonna have a ton of people on here if we can juggle it but I want to start with the the brilliant and the best reporter that covers The MAGA movement and President Trump and all politics related to that.
The National Political Editor Breitbart, Matt Boyle.
Matt, first, before we talk about last night, just give me your assessment.
I know you focused on CNN.
Over here, we curated MSNBC more.
Just give me your assessment of the response last night as you were watching it live of our media overlords, sir, to really President Trump and MAGA's crushing victory last night.
matthew boyle
Well, I think the smart people on their side, the establishment media side, which are all in the tank, of course, for Joe Biden and the swamp in Washington, they want to see Donald Trump not win in November.
They figured it out, right?
So they are looking at the results.
You saw Jake Tapper talking about that incredible cold open there that you guys had of all of clips combined that you saw Jake Tapper talking about the realignment of the Republican Party.
You saw Harry Enten from CNN talking about how they're in deep trouble.
You saw the wine club there on MSNBC trying to just reach it as a major issue, right?
I think there was another clip I saw last night circulating of Jen Pisaki, who was, before she became an MSNBC anchor and contributor and panelist or whatever her title is over She was obviously Joe Biden's White House press secretary.
She's saying she lives in Virginia and she's like shocked that immigration is the number one issue.
And by the way, immigration is not just the number one, I mean, it's not just the number one issue.
It's by far the number one issue.
In fact, the Wall Street Journal polling that you saw them talking about there in one of those clips, shows that immigration since December has jumped like eight points to the number one issue, surpassing even the economy as to what people are focused on this year. But the number one and number two issues that voters consistently across every poll are immigration and the border and the economy, right?
Like, and by the way, Trump has identified that.
And that's why you're seeing this working class, you know, middle class really realignment behind Trump and the new Republican party and a ditching of the old guard.
And then if you go deeper a little bit into the results beyond the top line of the presidential, obviously it was a terrible night for Nikki Haley.
an excellent night for Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yes.
matthew boyle
But broader than that, it was a terrible night for the old guard establishment of the Republican Party.
In Texas, Tony Guantanamo Congressman was forced into a runoff in a congressional race.
We'll see what happens there in May as that race develops.
But I mean, that was an embarrassing result.
The Speaker of the House of Texas, Dade Phelan, forced into a runoff, right?
This is the guy who led the impeachment against Ken Paxton and even in Arkansas.
steve bannon
Matt, hang on for one second.
We'll get into all these details.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return.
We've got Matt Boyle, National Political Editor of Breitbart, to explain it all to us.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
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Matt Bull's gonna stick with us, break us all down, but we're honored, honored.
I think outside of President Trump, the guy that's right behind President Trump that did the most work, and this is in the great state of Texas, Attorney General Ken Paxton.
Attorney General Paxton, this all came from you standing up for MAGA, you standing up for Trump policies, you defending the great state of Texas by, as you said, you were, I think, our first guest on the afternoon show on the 20th of January, 2021.
When we asked you, you said, hey, look, where the Biden administration adheres to the Constitution and doesn't, you know, doesn't mess with Texas, we'll work together.
Where they go outside, I'll try to give them guidance, and if they don't take the guidance, then we're going to go to court.
You have fought against big tech, big pharma, and the outcome of that was they tried to impeach you.
The Bush Rove Hunter.
That's still, just like the national establishment thinks they control the RNC and not President Trump or the Republican Party, in Texas it's even worse because that's the railhead of all the power of the Bush-Hunter with Karl Rove.
Last night, an incredible crushing defeat of the Bush forces.
Walk us through it and how you guys did it with no money and just putting it together.
And it was a total grassroots move.
It's just amazing.
And the victory was so sweeping from the appellate judges all the way down to people in the legislature, school boards, all of it.
Tell us what happened and how you did it.
unidentified
Well, first of all, people like you got up and talked about it.
That helped amazingly, immensely.
I don't think anything like this has happened in Texas in at least decades, maybe one time ever after they call it the Sharp Sound Massacre, when there was a great, great scandal in the Texas house.
We ended up, I think, winning 12 races.
We have 12 runoffs, 10 to 12 runoffs.
We won all of our court races.
There were five that I was involved in.
Four were statewide.
One was a district court.
And it was really just grassroots, because we were outspent.
I mean, I was talking about Mitch Little, where you came to his event, which was, you saw how many people were there.
They spent almost $2 million to beat him because he was my lawyer in the impeachment, and they realized this guy is smart.
And the last thing they want is somebody really smart in the House that can challenge their alliance with the Democrats and the moderate Republicans.
So it was just a little, I started right after the impeachment acquittal.
And I started traveling the state to recruit House members, Court of Appeals members that would run against the Court of Appeals.
And fortunately, you know, the people of Texas, they are smart and they are good and they voted and they sent a message to the Texas politicians.
steve bannon
Here's what's so important about this.
President Trump's doing this at a national level, but the state party levels, and particularly, you know, we're the big supporter of the precinct strategy, which a lot of the folks, or precinct strategy people, did this.
And they say in every state, when they go, the establishment doesn't want them there, they change the meetings, they make it very tough for them.
What you guys showed in Texas is that if you have a MAGA state and you have a state that supports President Trump and it's got the deplorables and MAGA and grassroots energy, it's not about money.
It's about spirit and willpower.
If you unite together, because you did this not just in the district level, these judges were statewide.
I mean, you ran, you won amazing statewide races.
You also won congressional seats.
Brandon Gillithan got 57% of the vote.
O'Shea's in a runoff down there in Fort Worth.
I mean, this was across the board, and you did it with no money.
This is a template.
This is a lesson for Ohio and other places out there, Pennsylvania, that have these big turnouts of MAGA, and even in California, where you can throw off the establishment.
Tell us, where do you stand today?
Where do you go forward from here?
Because you have these House members.
Talk to us about these runoffs, because Phelan has still not been totally defeated, correct?
unidentified
That's correct.
And look, Dick Weakley and Texas for Lawsuit Reform, Karl Rove and a group called Associated Republic of Texas, they'll spend millions.
We know it's coming.
But the good thing for us, this is in May, end of May, the runoff, we have probably, I think we have 12 to 15 runoffs.
The conservatives tend to show up.
So we tend to get our vote out.
The history is that every runoff I've ever been in, I got a minimum of 65%.
So I know we can win these.
The momentum is in our favor.
We just can't take it for granted.
We've got to get our people ballot.
If we do that, we're going to win almost every one of these runoffs, if not all of them.
And guys like John O'Shea will be elected, and so will David Covey when he defeats Dave Phelan.
steve bannon
David Covey, what a historic race.
We're going to spend a lot of time on it in the next couple of days.
One thing I want to say, because I know you've got to bounce.
Last night, the buried lead from last night in Texas is John Cornyn is not going to be leader in the Senate.
John Cornyn's political career came to an end last night because he's going to get primaried and he is not going to win a primary in Texas.
When he got MAGA, this worked out.
Now, would you actually primary him, General Paxton, or are we going to pick somebody else to primary?
Do you agree with me that John Cornyn's political career came to an end last night?
unidentified
Yes, I absolutely agree.
You're right.
There's no doubt about that.
There's no way that he could win a primary, whether it would be me or somebody else.
I've made no decisions about what I'm doing after this.
My goal is to get people elected now, and that's two years out from now.
But I agree with you.
There's no way he wins a primary in Texas.
steve bannon
And that means he can't be the leader of the Senate.
Attorney General Paxson, your courage Last year.
And of course, Mitch Little came to national attention and he won after spending $2 million against him in this house race.
Incredible guy.
All the whole ticket was incredible.
Where do people get you?
Because we've got to stay on top of these runoffs.
unidentified
At KenPaxsonTX and KenPaxson.com.
steve bannon
Attorney General Paxson, thank you so much.
Thank you for coming on.
Thank you for the fight.
unidentified
And thank you for helping us.
We couldn't have done it without you.
Thanks a lot.
It was a great day.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
We had the easy part.
Boyle, you've been in a couple, three of these dogfights before.
Give me your assessment of, let's start, because I want to start with the state party.
My point is, you have Ohio, you have South Carolina, you have Georgia, you have even Arizona, but you have these places that are MAGA country.
I would even say your beloved Florida.
But the apparatus is still controlled by the Chamber of Commerce and the establishment.
And Texas is the worst because it's Bush and Rove.
You know that crowd down there.
This is a tectonic plate shift in the MAGA movement and probably the biggest story outside of President Trump's grabbing the Republican Party by the throat last night and changing it.
Your thoughts, sir?
matthew boyle
Yeah, well, look, it's not just Trump winning here.
It's the average person, the irregular guys taking back control of their country, but also of the Republican Party.
And you're seeing that with a number of different things with the election results last night.
I think it was particularly interesting to see that both Maine and Alaska rejected the endorsements of their senior senators, Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski, who both endorsed Nikki Haley in the last week.
And then the voters of their states proceeded to deliver landslide victories.
To Donald Trump over Nikki Haley, so they just laughed off Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.
You're seeing Mitch McConnell head for the exits and try to plan his The end of his career.
Obviously, he's announced that he's not going to stand for Republican leader in the Senate again at the end of this year.
You're seeing the debate and the fight over who's going to replace him play out.
Obviously, you know, last night's results in Texas were terrible, as you just heard from the Attorney General, Ken Paxson.
They were terrible for John Cornyn, who is announced as- Is because Cornyn- Go ahead.
steve bannon
Go ahead, Matt.
We just lost you for a second.
Continue on.
matthew boyle
The reason why Cornyn is getting in the race right now as fast as he is is because he's trying to wrap it up early because he knows that when you look down the field that these other races that are going to play out, these Senate races that are playing out this year, whether it's Ohio, Nevada, Arizona, Montana, West Virginia, etc.
The new senators who are coming, they're only going to be reinforcements for the MAGA side of the Republican Party.
The new guys that are coming in, they are not voting for the McConnell-aligned people.
They are going to be voting for the Trump-aligned vision of the Republican Party.
So this is a process that's played out over the course of the last decade, really.
You saw it faster in the House of Representatives because, frankly, elections are every two years.
So it was a lot faster and easier to play out over there.
But the Senate is probably one election cycle away from being able to elect a real conservative, a real America first person as Talk to me about President Trump.
You saw the meltdown.
New York Times, major editorial from the paper itself about how the worst thing that's happened here recently is President Trump taking over the Republican Party.
steve bannon
very quickly.
matthew boyle
Look, the New York Times and CNN are, yes, they're establishment media, and they're all in for Biden, and they hate Trump, but they're also smart, and they recognize what's going on here, and they see the same numbers that we do, and they see what happened across these states, and this political realignment that we've been talking about for a while is is really coming into completion here in this election cycle.
Look, Donald Trump got more votes than Joe Biden did in Minnesota last night, right?
Like, so again, all the proper caveats here, but a higher percentage of Democrats voted uncommitted for Biden in Minnesota than did in Michigan, right?
Like, so this, Republicans haven't won Minnesota in a presidential election since 1972, when Richard Nixon was running for reelection.
That was a long time ago.
That was a long time before I was born.
So the fact is, is that it's the longest state, by the way, they haven't won.
unidentified
So I think that things Even the Gipper couldn't get it.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second, Matt.
We're going to hold you.
Matt Boyle, National Political Editor at Breitbart.
He's bringing analysis.
Cash is going to join us.
A lot more folks.
unidentified
Want to give a shout-out to the great state of Texas.
steve bannon
You stood in the breach last night, and man, oh man, did you deliver.
Short break.
Back in the warm in just a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Okay, let's bring it.
We've got Matt Boyle with us.
Gonna write shotgun here for the rest of the hour.
Let's bring in the Kash Patel.
Kash, you've been with the president since the beginning.
You're one of the ones that first identified lawfare.
They were coming for him.
What are the lessons you take away last night from overall what happened?
And also specifically for places like Nevada, the lessons they can learn from Texas.
Let's start overall.
What's your lessons learned last night?
kash patel
I think the biggest slush in Steve is that Donald Trump has exposed the flank of the deep state and their number one weapon, which has been a two-tier system of justice.
The lawfare that they have utilized to try to kneecap President Trump and unconstitutionally imprison him and keep him off the campaign trail is actually backfiring due to Trump's genius and his ability to relay to everyday Americans That this two-tier system of justice sponsored by the deep state is a reality.
It is not a right-wing conspiracy theory, and they are coming for everyday Americans' freedoms.
And last night's sweeping victories across the coast of America show that Americans are responding not to the swamp DC monster, not to the Nikki Haley machine, and certainly not to the Joe Biden agenda that is authoring this two-tier system of justice.
They are opting to choose Donald Trump And the Supreme Court has finally started the process to restore our constitutional republic to a uniform system of justice.
So the fight is on, but I think it's the winning message.
And that's why Donald Trump is dominating.
steve bannon
Let's play the Harry Enten.
Matt, I brought this up earlier.
Let's play Harry.
I want to play Harry Enten.
His thoughts on this and have you respond.
harry enten
So look at these polls that came out over the weekend, right?
There were four of them.
The New York Times-Siena College poll got the most press, had Trump up four.
But it was matched by a CBS News-YouGov poll that also had Trump up four.
Fox News, Trump up two.
Wall Street Journal, Trump up two.
And as I mentioned when we started, the polls right now look so much different than they did in 2020.
Because keep in mind, Trump led in not a single, there were zero, count them, zero general election polls nationally that Trump led in during the 2020 campaign.
Here we have four right here.
And I want to bring this to your attention because I think this is so interesting.
Okay.
Has Trump committed serious federal crimes?
This is among likely voters.
Overall, the majority say yes.
Yes he has.
Yet, Trump was leading in that poll.
By four points, as you see that New York Times-Siena College poll up there.
Why is that?
Because take a look at 2024 Trump supporters.
Even among them, 18% say he committed serious federal crimes, and yet they're still voting for him.
If you're Joe Biden, I just have to ask the question, what the heck are you supposed to do with polling like this?
steve bannon
Cash, you know Harry Enten, I think Boland and I agree, Harry Enten is one of the smartest guys out there in this.
What's your response?
How did the people around President Trump make sure that this was presented the right way?
They knew it was lawfare because those numbers are stunning.
You can tell Harry Enten's head's blowing up on national TV.
kash patel
Look, he's right in terms of the response for Trump.
Where he fails is he's trying to gloss over it by covering up for the deep state in the swamp and saying Donald Trump is still some sort of federal convict when he's not.
The voters have resoundingly rejected the concept That Joe Biden's Justice Department is trying to bring down Donald Trump with felonious charges that are baseless.
So that is the one place where Harry is wrong.
The American public does not believe that Donald Trump is a felon, nor do they want him to be convicted of it, because if it were to happen, it would be unconstitutional.
That's the math.
That's the metrics behind the math.
And that's where he gets it wrong, because the mainstream media can't have the narrative, can't contain themselves when they say Donald Trump is innocent, because that's what he is.
steve bannon
States like Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona, what lessons can you guys, you're out in Nevada now, you're putting your shoulder to the wheel out there, what lessons can you guys take from what happened in Texas last night?
kash patel
That this constitutional republic can be saved with the America First movement of Donald Trump.
What you saw behind Donald Trump and AG Paxton and others down in Texas was a resounding, not just defeat in the primaries of the RINO class and the Biden policies, But of the establishment Republican candidates across this country, because what they want is what we want in Nevada, in Arizona, and every other state.
Border security, border security, border security.
We want illegal immigration to come to an end.
We want legal immigration to flip back on, and we want to end the forever wars, and we want to take out Russia, China, and Iran threats.
to America, and we want to put America first.
America has responded last night and the other primary and caucus evenings that were before this that that's what they want.
And the only person that can deliver that righteous movement is Donald J. Trump.
And the mechanism he is utilizing to relay his message is abolishing the two-time.
two-tier system of justice that is robbing Americans of their election day right.
The deep state is trying to rig another presidential election and Donald Trump has made it a reality.
steve bannon
Cash, you're a little choppy.
Give us your social media website, all of it.
kash patel
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steve bannon
And also, we're going to come out with the government gangsters.
We premiered the video, the highlight in the trailer at CPAC coming out around Memorial Day, starring Kash Patel.
We'll have more information on that later.
Kash, thank you so much for your analysis this morning, brother.
Fighting the deep state.
I had a little technical issue with Boyle, we'll get him back up here in a second.
They're not happy.
The beginning of the end of the old guard, because I'm talking about the ones that dig in the hardest, the ones that have controlled this apparatus, have controlled the GOP, have controlled the RNC, controlled the state party levels, particularly, there's no more powerful Uh, family that has their hands on the controls of Republican Party than the Bush, uh, the Bush Hunter down in Texas.
And as you saw in that impeachment, and then you saw this big fight, and these candidates were amazing.
I think there were 13 wins at the, at the, uh, at the House level.
Of America First, MAGA candidates, anti-Bush candidates, anti-establishment candidates that won and really had no money.
Mitch Little had almost $1.92 million spent against him for a Texas House race.
You then had the judges.
These are the appellate court, but that's essentially the Supreme Court in the state of Texas.
All three, Ken Paxton won.
And the reason you can take broader lessons from this, it shows you that even the strongest Most well-financed establishment, dug-in establishment, they've controlled a party for 10, 20, 30, 40 years, is susceptible to the grassroots movement, is susceptible to the precinct strategy, is susceptible to America First, MAGA, the deplorables, the Trump movement.
If you can take Texas, you can take anywhere.
This is why we focus so much on Texas and help the folks down there, but they did it on their own.
This is also something important about our movement.
It is self-organizing.
As people know, when you get in and start doing the precinct level, there's not a tremendous amount of organization of all this.
It's kind of ride to the sound of the guns, but it's working.
And this upset in Texas is unbelievable.
And of course, Brandon Gill, and we hope Brandon can join us in a little while, Brandon Gill, unbelievable, 57%, so he's, that district's a red district.
He's still got the general to go through, but he, or the general election, but it looks like he could go to Congress.
John O'Neill is going to be in a, is going to be in a runoff.
O'Shea, John O'Shea, another Mick, going to be in a runoff in Fort Worth.
Phelan, it's the first time in 50 years, or 52 years, that a speaker of the Texas House is in jeopardy.
Okay?
So these are victories overall.
And look at President Trump across the board.
Trump candidates winning everywhere.
President Trump putting his mark on it.
You know, Birdbrain, we didn't play it.
Now, she wasn't up there long.
She's only up there for about four minutes.
She's not in a good mood.
One thing she failed to do, we would have covered it if she would have endorsed the president.
But of course, Birdbrain, not going to do that.
And they had a bunch of analysis up on CNN, I think this morning, that shows exit polls with her voters.
I think they picked the Commonwealth of Virginia was the one they picked.
Might have been Virginia, North Carolina.
But it's like 87% of her voters in the Commonwealth support Biden.
They think Biden's doing a wonderful job.
Approval ratings with her voters were like 87%.
They love what he's doing in the economy.
My point is, independents and Democrats came over and voted for that.
Or Republicans who are never going to support.
Never going to support President Trump.
That's just a fact.
So this movement is building momentum.
Now, my recommendation, so two things before I move on.
Cornyn is part of the problem.
Cornyn's just another version of Mitch McConnell.
He's Mitch McConnell with a southern accent.
Cornyn is already thrown out.
He's running for leadership.
Cornyn's political career came to an end last night.
Because Cornyn is the one that's been mocking Ken Paxson from the beginning.
How does it feel now, Cornyn?
Any senator in the United States Senate I ought to ask Cornyn, well hang on dude, you just had a revolt down there in Texas that threw all you guys out, and now you've got this grassroots that's saying, hey, next guy on the list is you.
After electing, and Texas is going to show up big.
And this is how you beat back.
Remember Texas turning blue, Texas turning purple?
They're not talking about that right now.
They're not talking about that right now.
They're talking about MAGA sweeping victories in Texas for President Trump.
That's what they're talking about.
And John Cornyn's got to understand something.
You mess with the wrong guy when you mess with Ken Paxson.
A lot of those guys take Paxson on.
They think this guy's kind of goofy.
Who's he?
He's got nothing.
Let's impeach him.
Let's throw him out.
Didn't work.
And it revealed lessons about how this country's run.
That in the states, and you see this in the House, we're going to get more to the House I think this afternoon when I've got time.
You know, they're blaming all of this on McCarthy's deal in April and May, or May and June.
I agree.
That deal is very tough to work around.
It just is, structurally.
However, if you have the stones, you can force their hand.
If you believe that a shutdown of the government is a good thing, it could be used for a good thing, if you use the leverage to force them to take actions they wouldn't necessarily otherwise take, it is a positive.
Johnson and these guys have worked on this assumption that the media will say bad things about him.
The five Harritons up there last night on MSNBC.
Why did they throw Ari Melber and Chris Hayes?
Chris Hayes is saying brilliant stuff about, you know, rise the populace right, no college degrees, and they give them the hook?
They give Ari Melber the hook?
They have five women?
Isn't that kind of discriminatory?
How come you can't change the morning show to Morning Mika?
If you're going to have five women up there beating on people, right?
And laughing at immigration, and laughing at, you know, and saying, oh, West by God, Virginia, Virginia ought to have a border wall.
If you're up there making fun of the migrant crime and murders of young women and kids, you know, why don't you change the morning show to Morning Mika?
Why do you discriminate against her?
If it's girl power, that's all you talked about last night.
It was like a slumber party.
You guys said it was like a slumber party or a coffee clatch or a wine tasting, whatever you guys were throwing out there.
But this shows you what we're up against.
That's the arrogance.
And in Texas, you had the establishment arrogance.
That was taken care of last night in states like Ohio and Pennsylvania and Nevada and South Carolina and particularly Georgia.
I mean, Georgia is MAGA.
Georgia, you've got some of the greatest patriots in the country down there, and you've got the southern wing of the, or foothold of the Bush apparatus right there with Kemp and Raffensperger and all of them laughing at you all the time.
Hey, laughing just like Rove and the Bushes were laughing at Ken Paxson in the MAGA movement.
They ain't laughing this morning.
Because they got crushed last night in just an incredible, incredible grassroots effort.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're gonna get into all of it.
President Trump's big victory.
President Trump, you know what he ought to do?
I think he ought to do the following.
He ought to challenge Biden to the debate next week.
Say, come on, let's go.
Come on, dawg.
Let's go.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Welcome back.
One of the biggest upsets last night and one of the biggest situations nationally was Brandon Gill down in Texas running for a seat in Congress against establishment and well-financed money.
Brandon, walk me through.
You got essentially 58% of the votes, so there's no runoff.
You're the Republican nominee and you'll go in the red district in the fall, so all likelihood to the House.
But you had a tremendous amount of money from outside groups, DC groups, spent to smear you because you're a MAGA.
Walk us through what happened, how this happened, and how did you end up winning?
unidentified
Absolutely, thanks for having me on and sorry my voice is going out here You're right.
This was an 11 person field and in an 11 person primary common-sense tells you you're definitely going to a runoff Especially whenever you have two million dollars of outside DC swamp Super PAC money attacking you and as we talked about before they spent two million dollars trying to knock me out of
Not trying to knock anybody else out or to support anybody else, just to take, you know, at one point it was the Never Trumpers in Texas 26 in this race, it was the Never Brandons trying to take me out.
And you know, the thing is, whenever $2 million is spent against you in the final three weeks of a Republican primary race, There's no way that my campaign could answer that with that degree of, with that magnitude.
I mean, we don't have $2 million we can spend on TV ads and texts and mailers and getting up on cable and broadcast.
I mean, the attacks on me were ubiquitous, but what happened was, and this is so important, the grassroots saw through this entirely and they mobilized against these attacks.
The way we got the message out, and this is kind of the nuts and bolts of campaigns, is the grassroots got entirely behind us and went door to door, knocking door to door, sending out just private texts to their friends, talking to their friends, making phone calls and saying, listen, These attacks that you're seeing all over the place against Brandon Gill are total lies.
They're fabrications.
And here's the truth.
So the amazing thing is, you know, the grassroots don't get enough credit, especially in D.C.
It doesn't matter how much money DC spends against MAGA Trump-aligned candidates, because the grassroots are there, and they are behind Trump, they're behind the MAGA agenda, and they're behind Trump-aligned candidates.
And as we talked about, I was endorsed by President Trump.
Whenever the grassroots mobilize, they are an absolute force to be reckoned with, and that's what we saw in my election yesterday.
We got 58% of the vote, and that's because the grassroots were there behind us.
steve bannon
58% and two of the name, both Army and Huffman combined, they had the money and the name recognition combined, if I'm wrong, around 26%?
unidentified
That sounds about right, around 26%.
And whenever you look at the combined spend, I mean, we were outspent by a significant amount.
We'll be doing our sort of post-op today and find out.
But we were outspent by a lot.
But again, it was the grassroots that came behind us.
And again, this is a huge win for President Trump.
No matter what D.C.
or the swamp or the establishment wants to say, President Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.
He is the ideological leader of the conservative movement and the people, the actual voters, not the swamp, not the super PACs.
Remember, super PACs don't vote.
Money doesn't vote.
The people do.
And the people had a massive, massive victory yesterday.
steve bannon
Just before we let you go, I want to make sure people understand this, because they came at you, and these people at these PACs and Super PACs hide behind the fact that they're trying to help the Republican cause, they're trying to move forward with President Trump and Maggard, because they tell him one thing to his face, but then when they see people like yourself that back him at the local level, it's very different.
Super PACs and PACs, DC-centric, that essentially didn't want a young fighter like you up on Capitol Hill, particularly given this mess we've got in the House.
These people report on the outside, particularly when they're down in Mar-a-Lago with Trump, that support Trump, but when the action starts, they want to take out the Brandon Gills.
Am I too far off base in that analysis?
unidentified
No, that's exactly right.
And I think that that's how insidious this is, is whenever people will align themselves with the conservative movement and then use that to mask their real agenda, which is to bash and demean and lie about true conservative fighters and to stop them from going to Washington.
I mean, these people are against anybody who's going to stand with President Trump.
They're going to stand with the Freedom Caucus or Senator Cruz.
I certainly will.
And they're doing everything they can to malign Trump-aligned candidates, to knock Trump's influence in the Republican Party.
And that's the frustrating part, is that it's still within our own party.
But I think that my election, and certainly you were talking about elections across the country and especially in Texas, show that President Trump No matter what these guys do, President Trump is the leader.
The grassroots are behind him, and the grassroots are going to be what push President Trump across the finish line in November.
steve bannon
Brandon, how can people find out more about you, your campaign, social media, all of it?
You still got a general election in the fall.
You said you're going to sit with the Freedom Caucus.
You're endorsed by Trump and Cruz and everybody, all grassroots leaders.
Where do people find out more?
unidentified
You can go to my website, BrandonGillForCongress.com.
There's more information about me.
There's a link to donate if anybody would like to help us out there.
It makes a huge difference.
You know, who knows what November is going to look like.
We feel really good.
This is a red district, but we know that the swamp doesn't want me there.
They've already shown that.
So if anybody would like to help us out by financially contributing, we'd really appreciate it.
I'm also on social media.
You can find me on Twitter at RealBrandonGill.
steve bannon
Brandon Gill, 58%.
Big win.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Thanks for having me.
steve bannon
Boyle, can I keep you through?
We're going to take a 90-second break.
Can I keep you through a little bit?
Because you had a technical problem.
I know you're in high demand, but can we keep you for a few minutes on the other side?
I think people want your closing thoughts.
Okay, okay, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to take a 90-second break.
We're going to start the second hour here.
In a moment, we've got a lot to go through.
We've got the National Political Editor of Breitbart News is with us, Themat Boyle.
We're going to take a short break, and we're going to be back.
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