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Feb. 23, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3413: Live From CPAC: Government Gangsters And American Patriots
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matt gaetz
05:53
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steve bannon
16:14
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bradley thayer
01:08
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jim fanell
01:16
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kash patel
03:43
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phillip patrick
01:30
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chris wallace
00:10
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jake tapper
00:08
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james comey
00:05
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joy reid
00:58
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joy reid
It's hard to think of anything more repulsive than to see the attempt to overthrow American democracy reduced to player mode, stop the steal.
These people are telling you exactly who they are, folks.
Here's what MAGA Pizzagate influencer Jack Prosobiak said at one of the breakout sessions today.
unidentified
Welcome to the end of democracy.
We're here to overthrow it completely.
We didn't get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here.
We'll replace it with this right here.
steve bannon
Amen.
unidentified
That's right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.
joy reid
If their attempt to mark a dictatorship to Americans is successful, scaring is caring, we're in for a lot worse.
As historian Nancy McLean writes in the New Republic, lurking behind the full frontal assault by Donald Trump and his enablers lies a far more far-reaching threat.
If the Republicans gain control of both houses of Congress, expect a state-authorized constitutional convention to eviscerate core rights and protections most Americans hold dear.
unidentified
Conservative means we're all going to sit at the dinner table together and have a family dinner and a discussion.
And it means in civics class, back when there used to be civics classes, it meant that in order to have a democracy, we need all voices heard and we need a place for people to go.
And so CBAC They have a place this week where they can go and spew this utter nonsense that if my grandfather were alive today, he'd, well, wherever he is, he's spitting wherever he is because he would not recognize this Republican Party.
And in fact, I just, part of me just wants the Republicans to keep at it.
Just keep crushing it.
The one thing that unites all of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different, is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly authority.
They don't come from Congress, they don't come from the Supreme Court, they come from God.
joy reid
This plan for America that is lurking behind the 2024 election.
unidentified
Yes, thank you, Joy.
It's great to be with you again.
So this is really serious stuff.
We are talking about an incredibly radical vision of America that you just described, you know, was on display at the CPAC convention.
But this time it would be made permanent by a nuclear option that exists in the Constitution's Article 5, which talks about how we amend The Constitution, and that Constitution has been amended 27 times, most of them good, by the people and things that had full sunshine and lots of public discussion.
If anything, you know, many have thought the Constitution is too hard to amend.
But the Constitution also has another measure in it that says that two-thirds of the states can demand that Congress convene a constitutional convention if they so authorize.
As we have been transfixed by Donald Trump and other parts of the MAGA movement, in fact, the political right, and this is the combination of big money donors like the Koch Network, the Ulanes, etc., on the one hand, and then this MAGA base that you've described so well on the other.
Sorry, I'm having a little trouble with the lighting here.
They have come together to push for this constitutional convention.
They've been pushing it out to the states since 2013 through the American Legislative Exchange Council.
They now have 28 of the 34 authorizations needed.
What's really frightening, though, over the last year or two is that they have realized that they will never get to 34, honestly.
So they have come up with a new math that they call aggregation.
They're going to take any authorization for a constitutional convention left on the books in America And use that in order to insist that a new Congress call this convention.
joy reid
And what is it that they want to do with it?
What do they want to change about the Constitution?
unidentified
They want to radically transform it.
The leader of this effort, a man named Mark Meckler, formerly head of Tea Party Patriots, now head of the Convention of States efforts, has said that they seek to roll back 115 years of progressivism.
Now that sounds like big talk for a guy in a bar or something, but the fact of the matter is they have been steadily doing this Our side has not been paying adequate attention, and if the Republicans manage to get hold of Congress, and Mike Johnson is the Speaker of the House, he's a deep supporter, he unites both those wings of the Republican Party, the fossil fuel billionaires with the theocrats, and he will, I believe, and so does Common Cause and others who study this.
Convene such a convention.
So this is something that would take away, has the potential in the various amendments they proposed to undermine the fiscal basis of Social Security and Medicare, to undermine long-established civil rights protections, to take away our capacity to protect the environment.
So it could not be more serious, and it's something that needs much more attention from all of us.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
It's Friday, 23 February, in the year of our Lord, 2024.
Welcome to CPAC 2024, where globalism comes to die.
steve bannon
Now, I guess we're formally called the railhead of Christian nationalism.
Are we upset that Joanne Reed has a problem with that?
unidentified
Huh?
steve bannon
Joanne Reed got her feelings hurt?
You know, Jack Posobiec, Jack Posobiec, when he came, how many went to the, um, to the, um, um, the academy?
Force Multiplier.
I'm gonna remember that eventually.
unidentified
Late night last night?
steve bannon
The Force Multiplier Academy, how you guys there?
Remember when Jack Posobiec came on the stage?
That's the number one story in the world.
They're talking about Jack, but it's over.
The end of democracy.
unidentified
Right?
steve bannon
The end of democracy.
You guys are so terrible.
Such insurrectionists.
Okay, we have a very big announcement.
Big announcement.
Today is the birthday of my co-host.
She's 23 years old on the 23rd of February.
unidentified
It's my golden birthday.
Thank you so much.
I feel like all I want for my birthday is for globalism to die.
But no, you know, it's so funny.
If you guys, believe it or not, if you were there at the Force Multiplier Academy, the Biden campaign, all of their social media accounts, they've been posting videos from our academy because we're just that effective.
But look, I think it goes to what we talk about.
on this show all the time.
Now, Democracy vs. Republic critique aside, the way politics is currently conducted, they don't want your voice to matter.
They never cared about your vote to begin with.
We see that, of course, with the fact that they don't care about election integrity.
But who was the only man who ever put you in the room, gave you a seat at the table, and was your lobbyist in Washington, DC?
steve bannon
Donald Trump!
unidentified
So let's reelect him for my birthday.
steve bannon
Now, hang on, hang on.
Not only did the Biden-Kamala Harris campaign put Jack Vosovic, and I want to play, if I can play that clip again in one second.
They also, in Media Matters, you know, our marketing department over at Media Matters, they also picked on my co-host when she said, what was your quote?
We haven't even started retribution yet.
unidentified
It was, Well, the mainstream media was giving us the themes to look out for at CPAC, and the first and foremost one was, quote, how much retribution do you guys want?
We polled you guys.
Of course, you applauded overwhelmingly.
And I said, it's not retribution.
It's justice.
steve bannon
All right.
OK, we're going to be very interactive today.
I think we got Ken Paxton showing up, Mike Davis, Cash Patel, Matt Gaetz.
Monica Crowley is going to join us later, so we're going to be very interactive today.
Captain Finnell, Dr. Thayer, we've got a full- and as folks- let's play it one more time, okay?
If you were at the Academy the other day, you saw this, but man, they went in total meltdown.
It's the number one story on Drudge.
It's gone super viral.
It's been on Drudge now for a day and a half.
And the Biden-Harris campaign have put this up.
When you go to their webpage, it's the lead thing.
Let's play it again.
unidentified
Welcome to the end of democracy.
We're here to overthrow it completely.
We didn't get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here.
We'll replace it with this right here.
steve bannon
All right, amen.
unidentified
That's right, because all glory is not to government, all glory to God.
steve bannon
Is that right, all glory to God?
You're the end of their democracy, and that's because the only way they keep power is to steal elections.
I don't care how much they hate hearing it, okay?
Democrats can't win unless they steal, and right now the Trump movement has said enough of that.
You're never stealing another election from us.
Donald Trump's going to win a sweeping landslide victory on 5 November this year.
Hey, and then starting on January 20th, as Natalie Winters, in the tender year of her 23rd year... I feel so old!
You feel so old, right?
The tender year of 23 says, it's not retribution, it's justice!
unidentified
If only our Congressional Republicans actually operated like that and showed us some accountability instead of strongly worded letters and harshly worded tweets.
steve bannon
Is that the reason?
You know, Natalie came and tried living in D.C.
for a while, but it didn't work out, did it?
unidentified
No, I'm actually, shout out to my mom, who is, I have movers at my place in D.C.
and I'm escaping to the free state of Florida.
So, no more D.C.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
You know, by the time you're 23, you shouldn't have to have your mom come and move you.
Moe, where's Moe?
unidentified
When you hit 23, you shouldn't have to have your mom... It's a strong nuclear family, isn't that what you want?
steve bannon
She's a take-charge type, like her daughter.
Okay, Jane Zirkle, what do you got for us?
We're gonna get into the crowd today.
I want everybody to make sure, name, rank, and serial number, who you are, where you're from, why you're here.
unidentified
My name is Mondo from Kansas. I'm part of the forum.
Force multiplier! Awesome, awesome. Can you please tell me your name and what brings you to CPAC?
Yes, my name is Ron Van Veek. I'm from Grand Rapids, Michigan.
I'm here to make sure there's not one more penny for the war in Ukraine.
Woohoo! Yes, yes! You ma'am, what brings you to CPAC?
I'm Tracy Holmes from California.
I'm here with Energize Health and we're just here to have medical freedom, medical choice.
Big time, big time.
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
I'm Pat Farrar.
I'm here at CPAC as a grandmother.
I worry about my grandkids and I love War Room.
Awesome, awesome.
Come here!
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
Kathy Boyd.
I'm from Ohio and I want to see Trump being president number 47.
steve bannon
All right.
Hang on a second, Jane.
Hang on a second, Jane.
Ben Burquam.
And please stay out of the photo.
We want to see faces of America.
unidentified
We're going to mix it up on this side.
We're going to add in the question for Steve.
Where are you from?
What's your name?
And why are you here?
Or a question for Steve.
My name is Judy.
I'm from College Grove, South of Nashville.
And I'm here to... Steve, of course.
And I'm here to...
Hopefully see the immigration stop in this country and I'm here to see how fast they can deport.
My name is Pega.
I was born in Iran and I left Iran because there were borders.
They locked us in.
Clearly, those walls worked.
We're here as legal immigrants fighting in the trenches with you guys.
There's nothing more important for us to make sure that we're here and following this through.
We are grateful for what you do.
All that you take on, I can tell every night when I watch you, how exhausted you are.
I can only imagine the attacks.
And every bit of it gives us more power.
My question for you is, are you focused on raising the next generation to be fighters just like you?
Are you focused on raising the next generation to be fighters?
steve bannon
Thank you!
What we're trying to do, that's a great question, and this is one of the reasons we have such young producers, co-hosts, all of it.
Also, so I can pay them nothing, right?
unidentified
You'll learn nothing and you'll be happy.
That's the motto of the war room.
steve bannon
That's your mantra.
You're absolutely correct.
That's one of our biggest things we're trying to do.
If you saw the Academy, we try to have as many young people as possible.
We're already to 30 seconds?
unidentified
Steve is the best at raising up young people, the best mentor, the most empowering person that I've ever had in my life and it goes for our entire staff and I'm sure for the audience too.
We are so lucky to have you and I know the audience agrees with me and I know you hate this and you're not paying me to say this but truly you've changed so many people's lives and the direction and fate of this country so thank you.
steve bannon
The best co-host ever.
unidentified
Fact checkers dispute that.
Short break.
steve bannon
Back in the warm in a moment.
Here's your host, Stephen K Band.
Come Retribution!
unidentified
Yo!
steve bannon
For the TV audience, we just had Johnny McEntee on here, one of President Trump's closest advisors.
Johnny's gonna be running all personnel.
He's actually the guy overcharge of all Project 2025.
This is for Joanne Reed, Chris Hayes, Rachel Maddow, and my favorite, Morning Mika.
Let's suck on this.
unidentified
3,000 day one to take down the administrative state brick by brick.
steve bannon
Your days of leeching off the government and have the government leech off the American people over.
Jane Zirkle, what do you got for us?
unidentified
My name is Dr. Carmen Martinez, and I've been fighting the COVID hoax since 2020, January of 2020.
All right.
Thank you.
Oh, show that Trump sign.
We love to see it.
Can you please tell me your name and what brings you to CPAC?
I'm Susan Conger from Augusta, Georgia.
I'm here to keep America free and inspire others to do the same.
Love it.
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
I'm Fred Wilson from St.
Leonard, Maryland.
I'm here to see all my heroes from RAVV and also connect with people to figure out how to get the young people and the conservative movement moving.
steve bannon
Okay, Jane?
unidentified
Yes?
steve bannon
Jack, let's do this again.
We've got a projector.
Everybody's got to hear you.
Let's have it again.
unidentified
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
My name is Fred Wilson.
I'm from St.
Leonard, Maryland.
I'm here to see all my heroes from RAVV.
Watch you guys every day.
I'm also here to try to bring the young people in my local county Get them involved in the conservative movement, get our school district back, so we can get the crap out of our schools.
Amen.
steve bannon
Hey, how many precinct committee men do we have here?
Raise your hand and look at that.
God bless you.
We need more.
Ben Berquam!
unidentified
Alright, we're doing this again.
Had a little mic issue before.
By the way, I want to answer that last lady's question about raising up the next generation.
Steve, you said creating a monster the other day, but I would say discipling warriors.
That's what you've done.
You've done that in my life, and I want to thank you personally.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
unidentified
Alright, ma'am.
What's your name?
We want to hear you again.
My name is Judy.
I'm from College Grove, south of Nashville.
I'm here to... I come from a long family line of patriots, and I'm here to make sure that my grandchildren, most of them are boys, enjoy the freedoms that I've been... that I enjoyed all my life.
And I thank you all for being here.
Thank you, ma'am.
And, sir, come here.
Come around this side real quick.
You, right here.
steve bannon
You, right here.
unidentified
Right here.
How are you doing?
My name is Joseph.
I'm from Flushing, New York.
I'm a local mechanic in Flushing, and I'm running for Congressional District 6 against Grace Meng.
I have no recognition, and I need all the support on my slogans, as it is on earth, as it is in heaven, and I'm taking it for the glory of God.
Amen.
phillip patrick
Where can people find you?
steve bannon
You know what?
unidentified
I'm a local businessman.
What's your website?
Do you have a website?
Yeah, josephornewyork.com.
steve bannon
Hold on, hold on.
What district is it?
unidentified
New York District 6.
steve bannon
And that's D plus 90?
No.
God bless you, sir.
Thank you, sir.
Take it to the blue states!
unidentified
Check it out, check it out.
steve bannon
Okay.
Can we give it up for, remember we introduced Captain Finnell, the bravest naval officer of the 21st century, and our own Dr. Bradley Thayer!
Okay, here's the issue with this book.
When you read this book, Embracing Communist China, you see the handshake down there between the business community.
It is pretty evident that the elites in this country over a period of 30 or 40 years sold out the American people.
jim fanell
That's true.
In fact, just today in the China Daily, there's a picture of a bunch of Americans standing and saying they're old friends with Xi Jinping.
They've infiltrated our nation, our investor class, our wealth and business people, and our government to say that we should work together and engage with them.
steve bannon
How did this happen?
Was it ideology?
Was it greed?
Was it avarice?
Was it contempt for the American people?
How did this happen from the people that have benefited from the system the most?
jim fanell
It's all of the above.
There is clearly greed because people had their professions based on this.
They were able to have careers where they engage with China.
Some people ideologically agree with this communist worldview.
State control.
steve bannon
State capitalism and big government, right?
Not really.
The communists are the richest.
The guys that run the communists, the CCP, are the richest guys in the world.
They are far richer than the sultans and sheiks in the Gulf Emirates, Saudi Arabia.
These are the wealthiest people in the world.
So they're not really communists, right?
This is all about power and control.
jim fanell
Exactly, and it's top-down, they control everything, about 98 million people that are in the Communist Party of China, and the rest of the billion people are living in various forms of poverty.
Some are middle class, but there's still a huge millions, hundreds of millions of people that are living at destitute poverty levels, even though they say they aren't, they are.
steve bannon
Dr. Thayer, what do you intend to, why this book, why this book now?
bradley thayer
Well, the book is absolutely essential to call attention to the issue right now, given the fact that we have such problems with where we are, with the dominance of the engagement school over our foreign policy community.
And the engagement school has been dominating.
That is that marriage between Wall Street investors and the CCP.
steve bannon
So do we need more direct political and economic confrontation with the CCP?
Because you know everybody's trying to come around President Trump again.
They're trying to say we got to accommodate.
You're going to throw the world into a major, you know, depression if you force the CCP out.
Are you saying we still got to do that?
bradley thayer
Absolutely.
The CCP is the focus of evil in the modern world.
Today, as Ronald Reagan identified, the Soviet Union was in March of 1983.
So we need to keep the energy on the CCP and recognize they're supremely vulnerable.
They're illegitimate.
They know they're illegitimate.
And by putting pressure on them through political warfare, Right?
Keeping the pressure on them through political warfare, we can evict them from power, working with the Chinese people, the Chinese diaspora, and good people around the world.
steve bannon
You know the most, uh, yeah, the most robust Christian church in the world are the Chinese people.
There are a hundred million evangelical and traditional Catholics in China that are actually more persecuted than even in Eastern Europe during the reign of the Bolsheviks, right?
The CCP is the most murderous dictatorship on the history of Earth.
Now, one quick story.
You're at the National Press Club this afternoon for a press conference at 3.30?
Right.
And then you speak tomorrow at 5 o'clock.
And then you speak at what time tomorrow?
You're on another panel?
Oh, you were on a panel yesterday?
unidentified
Yesterday, yeah.
steve bannon
And then you're at the big panel, okay.
And we got the book.
People can get the book.
We want everybody to go to Amazon, get it.
These guys around to sign it.
One quick personal story.
You, this guy is so brave.
He's one of the most revered naval officers in naval intelligence.
You put your entire career on the line.
It was at 13 or 14 that you first came back and warned the American people that the elites in the military, in the political system, were actually not looking out for their interests.
jim fanell
Yes, so there's a conference out on the West Coast every year with the U.S.
Naval Institute, and I gave a speech in 2013 and I warned that China was coming, and it didn't go over well with the Obama administration.
steve bannon
The Obama administration didn't like that?
I thought they were pivoting to Asia.
I thought there was a big pivot to Asia.
jim fanell
There was publicly the rebalance or pivot to the Pacific, but behind the scenes, the unofficial policy that wasn't written was, do not provoke the PRC.
steve bannon
By the way, when Obama, when President Trump did the transition, he went down and met with Obama.
He's told the story a number of times.
Obama tells him, he says, the number one threat you have to worry about, and this will take up 90% of your time.
is North Korea.
And I sat there when he came back and we talked about it and I go, they're a complete vassal state to the CCP.
They don't do anything.
Remember he took the train and had his little notebook, he's writing his notes down?
This is how unsophisticated and dangerous the Obama administration was because all their donors were in bed with the CCP and that's why they singled out North Korea.
He's not a bad guy and a crazy guy.
But he is fully taking orders from Beijing.
Where do they go to get the book?
Your website?
Are you still?
No.
I love this guy.
He's naval intelligence.
He will not put anything up on social media.
Where do they go?
Your site for everything.
bradley thayer
Everywhere you buy books.
And then, of course, Bradley Thayer at Getter, Bradley Thayer at Truth, and Brad Thayer at X. And we'd like to thank, have the audience join us in thanking Steve for writing the full work to the book.
unidentified
No, no, no.
steve bannon
It was an honor.
unidentified
He really supported the book all along, and we couldn't have done it without Steve.
steve bannon
Thanks very much.
By the way, you know, Dr. Thayer's now one of our contributors all the time.
He's up on our website.
The honor to write the foreword to a book that was Jim Finnell's book to tell the whole story about how the elites in this country that benefited the most sold this nation out and is nothing short of treason.
And you can tell it by when they went to San Francisco and they gave a toast, a standing ovation, not to Xi once, but twice.
Every one of those 400 will live to regret it.
And the other day at the academy, somebody came up, a citizen came up and said, Steve, can somehow you get the list of the 400 out there?
We want to know who they are and we promise we'll do it.
Can we give it up for Captain Thayer, Dr. Hold it.
unidentified
Dr. Thayer, Captain Finnell!
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thanks, guys.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Great job.
I'm gonna keep the books and give them to people.
Oh, yeah.
Take them.
Okay, good.
By the way, Amazon.com.
Also, this is Tony Lyons and the great work they're doing over there.
Okay.
We have... Are we ready for... No can do?
unidentified
Whoa!
steve bannon
I thought it was only... Okay.
To get some dead air?
No.
We got a big surprise.
unidentified
Wait, wait.
You need to fill dead air and you want me to talk about the Chinese Communist Party?
I feel like that's a match made in heaven.
steve bannon
You know, that would be so easy.
Why don't you tell us about your new fashion line?
You know, she's an entrepreneur.
She's bringing back jobs from China and from Mexico.
Tell us about the new line.
unidentified
Well, look, Joe Biden said in 2011, China's rise isn't our demise.
Now, we know that's a lie.
But just like the pivot to Asia, which I always joke was really just a term for Hunter Biden's business strategy pivot, because he began profiting from China instead of Ukraine.
Joe Biden was actually right.
The rise of China was not the demise of the Biden family, was not the demise of most of the people who live in Washington, D.C., was not the demise of the people who operate and exist in the Beltway, but it was the demise of American manufacturing jobs.
It was the demise of American industry.
It was the demise of American wages.
So I set out to change that.
I started a clothing line called She's So Right, which you can shop at she's so right dot co.
But I will say, Steve, hold it.
steve bannon
Chanel didn't make enough stuff that Christian Dior didn't make enough stuff to your fancy?
unidentified
Well unfortunately...
steve bannon
Had to start your own line?
unidentified
Italy, which obviously makes a lot of designer goods, they're part of the Belt and Road Initiative, right?
So even though they're not technically Chinese, they're not China, they're a part of this communist really expansionism strategy to spread their social credit score system and you know state really sponsored capitalism.
I guess you call it socialism with Chinese characteristics abroad.
So I set out to change that and shout out to this book.
It's really wonderful.
It really walks through how it's not just elite merger or elite compromise.
It's elite merger.
steve bannon
Elite merger.
Better than capture.
Short commercial break.
Back in the war room at CPAC in a moment.
kash patel
Government gangsters are the group of individuals, career bureaucrats, who have been installed by what we call the deep state into every agency and department in the United States government.
chris wallace
What do you think of the way that the intelligence community handled the so-called Russia dossier?
And overall, how do you think of the way they've handled Donald Trump?
unidentified
I've lived in this world for 45 years where you get things and people make allegations.
bradley thayer
That is a garbage document.
unidentified
Did you find direct evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Putin in Moscow while you were there?
steve bannon
I never was an FBI agent.
matt gaetz
I never was a prosecutor.
So I really don't do evidence.
I do intelligence.
unidentified
Do you agree with Mr. Horowitz that the dossier was central?
And essential to the Carter Page FISA Warrant application being approved.
bradley thayer
I agree that it was important.
james comey
I can't tell you whether it was essential, and by that I mean that it wouldn't have been granted without this field information.
matt gaetz
I can say.
unidentified
Yo, Cash.
steve bannon
Yo, Cash.
kash patel
Bannon.
steve bannon
You were just main stage?
kash patel
I was main stage.
steve bannon
Did you have a suit on, or are you coming in in sweats?
kash patel
No.
You know, I'm coming in representing Revere Payments now.
I gotta, you know, get my stuff out there.
steve bannon
Okay, great.
Tell us what's a Revere Payments.
kash patel
So you know what?
We're following in Steve Bannon's footsteps.
The conservative ecosystem deserves every type of business that we can get for conservatives.
steve bannon
Amen.
kash patel
War Room's leading the industry on that.
Now you have Revere Payments, a payment processor for conservatives.
We'll never cancel you.
matt gaetz
You know what happens?
steve bannon
They cancel.
All these companies try to start.
When you start your entrepreneurial company, you gotta get a payment system, do it online.
Immediately when they find out you're MAGA, boom, you get canceled.
kash patel
I'm going to be the Indian guy that talks to you about tech at the Revere Pen downstairs.
Later.
steve bannon
Hold it.
Tell me about what you say on main stage.
Tell me about government gangsters.
kash patel
So Steve had this crazy idea that we could reintroduce conservative film power to the mainstream American bloodstream.
And he was kind enough to take the best-selling book, Government Gangsters, and he's making it into a movie.
He's making it into a movie.
steve bannon
You know why?
Here's why.
It's going to get released around, we think, Memorial Day for the summer in the lead up to the campaign.
But this is also for Joy Ann Reid and Morning Mika and all you whiners.
Hold it.
You want to see retribution?
Watch Government Gangsters because that's the top of the list we're going to start with.
We're going to start with Garland and Comey and McCabe and all these all these crooks that have been inside the government tormenting MAGA, tormenting President Trump, tormenting the American people and breaking the law.
Am I right, sir?
kash patel
Well, that's the thesis of the whole book.
And that's what you just saw, a 60 second clip.
This is how fast these guys work.
I don't know when you sleep, but between shows, Bannon is busy making the next blockbuster movie to help save the MAGA movement.
But we have to.
That's what I was talking about on stage.
We have to call out Not just the Democrats, but the Republicans that have screwed over America First and MAGA, and we gotta put them on a screen for America to see their corruption.
steve bannon
It's not just... What have the Republicans done?
Just look the other way?
kash patel
Yeah.
We have a House majority in Congress that should be defunding parts of these organizations on a daily basis because they illegally and unlawfully surveil you.
How can we reward Christopher Wray as director of the FBI with a new government headquarters building when he unlawfully surveilled Americans 274,000 times last year alone using FISA?
It has been abused, it has not been fixed, and this Republican leadership needs to do a better job on Capitol Hill protecting our rights.
steve bannon
Hold it, what is that?
Belly fold, yo!
Hey, let's make, I love that, let's make their heads blow up over MSNBC and The Guardian.
Do you want retribution?
unidentified
Justice!
steve bannon
Justice.
You want justice?
Hey folks, at MSNBC, that's democracy.
Okay?
And you're gonna get it served up hot and hard, okay?
Come Retribution.
Cash, talk to me about your thoughts about the second term, the priorities of President Trump.
He's coming under tremendous force now.
They're trying to do lawfare.
They're trying to divert his attention.
The CCP's in back of most of this.
They're in bed with these government bureaucrats, administrative state.
They're in bed with Wall Street.
Particularly, they're in bed with Silicon Valley.
You know all about the national security aspect of this.
Tell us, audience, what does he have to fight through, and what do you think ought to be a couple of his priorities in the second term?
kash patel
Well, he started them in the first administration, but was kneecapped by the deep state rogue actors.
And that's the one thing we got to get rid of when President Trump returns to Oval Office.
Not only do we have to remove them, but we have to replace them with American First Warriors.
And I saw you had Johnny McAfee up here, who's leading the charge on identifying personnel.
That's step one.
But step two, and this is what I was talking about in there, is we need you guys.
Everybody has to man up over the next 250 days.
Every single person.
It's not just a Donald Trump victory unless we are marching behind him to help him because he's going to need it.
He can take so much heat and arrows and missiles.
steve bannon
He can't put everything on his shoulders.
kash patel
But we gotta help.
And that's the mandate for us.
Whatever it is, education, healthcare, taking on CCP.
steve bannon
You guys gotta go to Project 2025.
You gotta download the 900-page document.
Start going through it.
If you think you're qualified, or if you're interested, or if you have a child, or a friend, or a neighbor, get them involved in it too.
We need at least 3,000.
In fact, we need 15,000 to make sure we get the right three to start off with.
One last thing before cash bolts.
We did a shoot.
I think it was 15 hours long.
15 hours long.
Cash was up there for 15 hours and never missed a beat.
I mean, it was all first take.
That's pretty extraordinary.
kash patel
Well, I was channeling my inner bandit.
And I guess the Chinese are listening.
But listen, you know what's awesome about our movement?
Is that we're bigger than the haters on the left.
We're bigger than the haters in mainstream America.
And we're bigger than the swamp.
And so when War Room Films, what is it, warroomfilms.com, we'll pre-order and stuff?
steve bannon
Yeah, pre-order.
Or just sign up for information.
kash patel
You guys asked, literally, the War Room Posse asked, For Steve Bannon and company to deliver a message to mainstream MAGA Americans and how to help.
And he was like, you gotta come in and film for a day.
I was like, I'll film for a week.
I don't really care.
The point is, we have got to get together and help President Trump.
That's the mission.
steve bannon
You're his backup.
Can we give it up for Ken?
Where'd they go?
Where'd they go for the book, all your writings, your merchandise?
By the way, the guys in everything.
Merch lines, Revere.
Where do people go to get all of Kash Patel?
kash patel
At Truth Social, Kash.
At Truth Social, Kash.
Go get the book, governmentgangsters.com.
steve bannon
When's Truth Social going to be public?
You and Nunez, like the chairman, vice chairman?
kash patel
I mean, I might know something, but if I said something, I think DOJ would come and arrest me.
steve bannon
We're getting there.
kash patel
Look, we filed publicly.
We're almost there.
And then support America First.
Seriously, I'm sick and tired of the America First movement getting out there behind communist platforms.
Get behind America First platforms.
Don't tell me you don't have a choice when it comes to payments or social media or TV or the war room.
You have a choice.
Quit joining the enemy and join the team that's going to win for this country and Donald J. Trump.
steve bannon
Amen.
Let's give it up for Kash Patel!
Jane Zirkle!
unidentified
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
Mary from Castleton, Virginia and I came to CPAC to meet Steve Bannon and thank him for his awesome podcast that I listened to on my commute to work.
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
Hi, I'm Sophia Montgomery and I'm here with the Republican Women of Baltimore County and I'm an in-your-face Trump supporter.
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
Hi, I'm Kathy Geiger.
I represent the People's Movement of all 50 states.
Wow.
We love it, we love it.
steve bannon
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
unidentified
Byron Ackerman, Atlanta, Georgia.
I came here to connect with people in the Fulton County, Georgia area and like-minded people.
And also because Steve reminded me of my dad patrolled the Pacific waters 30 years before you did on a Navy warship, reminded me of some things that he used to tell me that are important.
Your name and what brings you to CPAC?
Chris Canarelli from Jersey Shore area.
This is my 11th CPAC.
And back to support President Trump, support the movement, and have a clean sweep in November.
steve bannon
Ben Burquham, what do you got for us?
I switched hats just for cash.
unidentified
Patriot Mobile, there we go.
Support companies that support America, aren't sir?
My name is Bill Allen.
I'm from Pennsylvania.
I'm the president of the Pennsylvania Integrity Network, the outreach coordinator for Pennsylvania Patriot Coalition.
I work with San Patrick directly, but what I'm here for is to ask a question of Steve Bannon, personally.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Okay, hang on for one second.
I've got the news report.
The Wall Street Journal, was it yesterday?
By the way, Philip Patrick from Birchgold.
You know Philip from the show.
Wall Street Journal reported, it was in the editorial yesterday, the day before, that they support, Murdoch's Wall Street Journal supports, since the House, and the ultra-MAGA guys in the House, led by Matt Gaetz, who's going to join us here in a second, Matt's right off to the side, that since we're not going to give any money to Ukraine, because we're tired of paying for Ukrainians to be slaughtered, what they're going to do is they're advocating
The Russian assets they've seized, they want to convert them to cash, and they want to give them to the Ukrainians to have war on the Russians.
Philip Patrick, what will that do to the dollar?
We're here at the end of the dollar empire.
Tell me what the Wall Street Journal, the geniuses there, are advocating.
phillip patrick
This administration has already incentivized the world to start seeking dollar alternatives.
They've done it through money printing, through devaluation, and now they're doing it through sanctions.
And by doing that, what you are telling nations around the world is your assets tomorrow can become a liability.
And it's incentivizing these nations to now start seeking alternatives to the dollar.
And look at what's happened under the Biden administration.
The amount of US dollars held by governments today at 25-year lows.
This is the effect of his policies, and it'll continue to drive de-dollarization, which is the worst thing that could happen to this country.
steve bannon
If they do this, will this be the beginning of the end of Bretton Woods?
Will this take the de-dollarization movement and drive it forward?
Will the central banks of all these other nations buy gold to try to get some sort of gold-backed currency?
phillip patrick
They're doing it already, right?
Not only is de-dollarization happening, central governments around the world are buying gold at record levels, 2022.
And 2023, no other years in history have they bought more.
This is the reality of what's happening, and it's all part of de-dollarization.
By buying gold, they're killing the demand for the dollar, and the longer that goes on, the weaker the dollar becomes, then the weaker the argument for the dollar as global reserve currency becomes.
And coming from the United Kingdom, we've seen that since Bretton Woods.
Pound Sterling's lost 96% of its buying power.
We cannot let that happen here in the U.S.
We cannot.
steve bannon
By the way, Biden's, I think it's what, 17 to 20 percent drop in purchasing power of the dollar.
Their whole strategy is to destroy the dollar.
But what they didn't plan on is the world's going to look for an alternative.
They thought the world had to take it.
This is dangerous.
The Wall Street Journal's been dangerous.
I want everybody to know we've got the end of the dollar empire.
We're coming out with the fifth installment.
It's going to be why all the other central banks are buying gold.
What has the Fed been doing?
A central bank digital currency to absolutely have total control over you.
We'll be out with that in a couple of weeks.
How do people go to Birchgold?
And particularly, I know folks say, I love talking to Philip Patrick and his team.
How do they get there?
phillip patrick
It's very simple.
Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
Again, Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
And you can reach me on getter at Philip Patrick.
steve bannon
By the way, can we give it up for Philip Patrick and the team at Birchgold?
End of the dollar empire.
This guy's great.
The amount of work they put in is incredible.
Ben Berquam, what do you got for us?
unidentified
I got the question from William.
Okay there, Steve.
I'm an avid follower of your station, and I want to get to it.
You can't hear me?
Okay, can you hear me?
Okay, the question is, I need to know what action plan you can bring to the people, because we are the people that I'm tired of hearing talk about the top is the RNC.
They are the bottom.
We the people are the top.
We need an action plan from Steve Bannon, how we can organize, how I can get you into Philadelphia, Get into the belly of the beast.
Get Trump into the belly of the beast.
I'm down there every week.
I spend a hundred hours and fuel out of my pocket to be recruiting.
I need to know where I can get help in that level.
To help me turn the state of Philadelphia, I mean the Pennsylvania, purely red, and quit this here to free state of Florida.
But I want the free state of PA!
I love that.
steve bannon
I love that.
unidentified
Okay, well come on.
steve bannon
I tell you what, you're going to get your plan and I'll get President Trump to sign off on it.
How's that sound?
Our hero is here!
Free Tate Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Short break. Gates is in the house. Next!
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Yo! Our hero is here! Matt Gates is in the house!
unidentified
Thank y'all so much!
matt gaetz
It's great to be with you.
Great to be with Steve and Natalie.
This is the beginning of the primary season where America First patriots have to start winning and getting in position to give us the backup we need in Washington, D.C.
The truth that we have laid bare before the country is that we cannot win the battles that are necessary with the current Republican team.
Now the good news is that CNN is announcing the droves of establishment Republicans who are heading to the gates because all of you have sent them there.
They can't face down the war records.
They can't face down their own records, their own weakness.
And so they're heading for the hills and now Republican primary voters have to step up and refill those billets with folks, and it starts in Texas and in Ohio on March 5th, where we've got to get behind candidates like J.R.
Majewski and Brandon Gill, and that's going to roll through the primary election cycle, and that's how we retake the country back, by getting Trump in the White House and getting a team in Congress that will actually fight.
steve bannon
Tell us about, tell us about, by the way you lost all these committee chairs, you lost all these senior, all people with seniority, and of course MSNBC and the New York Times said it's the end of the Republican Party, that all the talent and experience left.
What's the reality?
matt gaetz
Those folks have become deeply uncomfortable with the Washington that I am trying to recreate.
I want a Washington where members of Congress get called out if they're trading individual stocks and enriching themselves on information that's not available to the regular public.
I want a Washington where you have to own your vote.
You have to stand behind it, and it's not just one up or down vote on funding the whole government or not, where these agencies have to defend themselves, and that's how you defang this woke and weaponized government.
You zero out their salaries, you take away their authorities, and if politicians of either party will not stand with We the People, then we replace them.
I wish, I wish that I spent all my days just fighting the Democrats, but if Republicans are going to act like Democrats in drag, I will lead the fight against them too.
steve bannon
Do we love Matt Gaetz?
By the way, is Gates on the list on the VP vote?
Are you on that list?
matt gaetz
I'm constitutionally ineligible because I don't think President Trump or I could ever cease being a Florida man.
And you can't have two from the same state.
So, I don't know.
Maybe we'll get like Brooklyn Byron.
Maybe he'll go to Brooklyn so that he can be eligible and that would be terrific.
But I am never leaving the Sunshine State.
steve bannon
Florida, man.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
We start on March 5th in Texas, Ohio.
Walk through the Matt Gaetz plan of how you get, how you get these firebrands with your firebrand.
How we roll through the primary season and get the people in the house that have the stones to make the changes that need to be made.
matt gaetz
Well, look, I am a blunt force instrument, okay?
I'm a little rough around the edges.
But at times, that's what we need in Washington, D.C.
This is not the era for people who do the fine carpentry and maybe create just the next Blue Ribbon Commission or rename a post office.
We're not a few post office renamings away from saving the country, my friends.
We need people who are tough and strong, and so I've been the road grader.
I've been out there clear in the way, and the mainstream media hate me for it, and they blame me for it.
But that's where I need all of you to be, behind me.
Because I will confess this frailty.
I don't have a national political organization that is screening and reviewing candidates.
I don't have the ability to finance every challenger in every race, and so I am relying on this simple fact.
There are more of us than there are of them.
And they are afraid about that, and they should be.
Because if all the work you've done with people like Steve Stern to fill the billets of these Republican executive committees, that is the infrastructure that I am relying on.
So it's on you.
I've run a leg of this relay by clearing a lot of these folks out, and now we've got We gotta source the true patriots from the posers and the fakes.
And you know what?
We're getting a lot better at that, aren't we?
We're able to identify these people early on when they are fraud-feasers, and we are able to be the ballast against that.
steve bannon
Okay, two things.
By the way, is Gates right or not about this?
This is your group right here.
Okay, what's going to happen on March 1st?
You know the inside baseball.
Are we going to either shut the border and shut the government or are we going to just continue to kick the can down the road?
matt gaetz
Well, here is what we have seen and it's grisly and it's ugly and you're not going to like it.
We don't have a majority in either legislative chamber that actually wants to reduce spending.
Because when we had single-subject spending bills up, and I would introduce amendments, Eli Crane would introduce amendments, Bob Good, Matt Rosendale, Scott Perry to cut funding to foreign aid, to cut the UN, to cut USAID, to cut CISA and the censorship industrial complex.
You saw dozens upon dozens of Republicans joining with every Democrat to pass more spending.
My fear is that we don't have a team who understands how to utilize leverage.
The House of Representatives is the sole node of power that we have in this entire government right now.
I say we take it out for a spin.
I say we put the majority at risk if necessary to accomplish our goals.
That's what the left does.
The left is willing to take risks to advance their objectives, and then we are far too willing to preside over decline.
So my fear is that coming in March, you'll see this middle-out, uniparty, minibus system that will prevail over those of us who want true spending cuts and want institutional reform to the Congress.
Now, the omnibus spending bill, where you vote on everything at once, One thing I'll give Speaker Johnson is he busted that up so it will have to be minibuses instead of omnibuses.
That is not sufficient to save the country.
It is directionally correct.
It is necessary but insufficient.
The only way we do this is we get single-subject spending bills and then we get lawmakers willing to vote for spending cuts to wasteful and woke government.
steve bannon
By the way, can we keep you into the next block?
matt gaetz
I got nowhere else to be, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, Matt Gaetz is our new co-host.
matt gaetz
But I'm tired of Natalie dominating the conversation like this.
unidentified
I know my place.
steve bannon
No, we can talk about the CCP in the next block.
In fact, we've got a very special thing for Natalie.
We're going to open up with a real surprise in the next segment.
Real quickly, we're going to hold this until after our surprise to open the next segment.
Gaetz is still going to be with us.
Can Abby Phillips, Abby Phillips, Her producer at CNN.
Please, do Abby a favor.
Stop booking Matt Gaetz.
matt gaetz
No, I love when they have... Look, look, Bannon is the king of opposition media.
You love to go face down the Bill Mahers and the resistance libs.
And you know what?
They need that.
We don't have enough Republicans willing to do it.
steve bannon
But Abby is not Joanne Reed.
She's not Rachel Maddow.
She's not obnoxious.
She's a good person.
It's not fair for her to get blown up every time you go there.
That's what her producer's got to cover for.
She's too nice a person.
matt gaetz
Hey, you know what?
I'll take all comers.
We have to bring our message to any corner of the internet or television that is willing to take us and we should do it unafraid because we are the true patriots fighting for this country.
steve bannon
In the lion's den, Matt Gaetz.
Short commercial break.
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