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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
jack posobiec
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
unidentified
The people have had a belly full of it.
jack posobiec
I know you don't like hearing that.
mike benz
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
Welcome to The War Room.
natalie winters
It's Natalie Winters hosting, filling in for the one and only Stephen K. Bannon today, February 2nd.
in the year of our Lord 2024.
But as I'm sure Steve would say, we've got a lot of wood to chop today.
There's a lot of news breaking all over the world, whether it's Fannie Willis, what's going on in the Middle East, what's going on with our own hostile regime here at home, weaponizing against American citizens.
We are gonna cover all of that and so much more in the War Room today.
Without further ado, I'll spare you guys one of my rants and we'll just get right to the guy who's probably gonna give you a pretty epic rant.
Now, Jack Posobiec, of course, a good friend of the show, I had wanted you on to talk about all things Taylor Swift at Steve's request, but I would say, lucky for Taylor Swift, unlucky for probably the rest of the world, it seems that we have breaking news that there are some retaliatory strikes going on against, I believe, Iranian-backed militant militia groups in Iraq, in Syria, so you seem to be the perfect person to sort of break down both what is actually going on,
boots on the ground, but also from a more meta perspective, what should we look for in the coming days?
jack posobiec
Okay, so Natalie, thanks again for having me on.
What we're seeing now, of course, this is the promised retaliation from Joe Biden and Lloyd Austin regarding the deaths of those three troops from the state of Georgia, Army Reservists, who were killed at Tower 22 in Jordan.
What we're told at this point, as of 1600 hours Eastern Standard Time, U.S.
Central Command CENTCOM, so that's the Pentagon's operational forces, the operational COCOM in the Middle East, Conducted airstrikes in Iraq and Syria against Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
This is the same organization that Gerald Soleimani was the head of, this IRGC Quds Force and their affiliated militia groups.
So these are these Iranian proxy forces, these Islamic militia groups.
85 targets, numerous aircraft to include, and they're making a big point of this, bombers that were actually flown long range from the United States itself.
The airstrikes employed more than 125 precision munitions.
We're given a long list of things that were hit but we're not actually told where they were hit.
Or any specifics on the groups that were targeted other than they are IRGC sponsored groups.
And so it's it's very interesting that we're seeing this, but also something that I would look at in terms of the fact that that it was B1 bombers that were used in this situation.
The fact that we use these stealth long range bombers from the United States to the Middle East, it actually kind of sparks the question for us then and Fox News love to show their maps up of All the bases that we have in the Middle East, and of course when they talk about it, they'll say, oh well look where all these strikes were.
But in doing so, they are forced to actually show where we have troops on the ground in the Middle East.
And something you'll never hear from Fox, something you'll never hear from the administration, is an actual explanation of why we have so many thousands of troops right now, including people who are friends of mine that are over there.
Why do we have all of these troops there?
What are they doing?
You just showed, by the way, the Pentagon, by the way, just showed us that they could send bombers over anytime they wanted to strike these groups, to strike these, and as here's the list right in front of me, uh, intelligence centers, command and control operation centers, rockets, missiles, vehicle shortage, logistics.
So great.
So if we have the ability to bomb them all the way from the United States, why do we need 3000 American forces there?
Why not just send Eric Prince, a couple of the special ops guys, send them over, let them take care of business.
Why do we need people in these engineering regiments and all these other places in harm's way?
And it's simple, Natalie, I'll tell you right now, because there are people within our government, like Victoria Nuland, who is running around trying to put the pieces back together in Kiev right now, who are desperate for a wider war in the region with Russia and desperate for a war with Iran.
Those troops that we have on the ground there exist as a tripwire, essentially a human meat shield if you will, in order to produce more strikes in the region.
This is exactly what the Biden administration wants.
And by the way, it's exactly what the Iranian proxy forces know.
natalie winters
I'm not mistaken.
It was just a few months back that I think some of our our firebrands in the house were fighting to repeal basically the AUMF in Syria and other countries in the region.
But I'm just curious like, you know, we always talk about looking downrange here in the war.
I'm sure the questions on everyone's mind right now is Do you think that these are going to be isolated incidents and there won't be any, you know, follow-up attacks?
Is it going to balloon into a bigger conflict?
How do you think you see this kind of day, this at least barrage of missiles or strikes ending?
Do you think it's going to become something bigger?
jack posobiec
Of course there's going to become something bigger that comes of this.
And so we haven't seen, and the big key takeaway I think from all of this is that the administration is being very careful to say that they haven't attacked directly any Iranian assets, including Iranian naval assets, maritime assets.
There was some talk, by the way, some chatter earlier in the week that Iranian naval assets or IRGC targets Would be looked at.
We haven't seen that here.
And so, what they're basically trying to say is, this is similar, by the way, when Trump took out Soleimani, which was a direct strike, they're trying to say, we're going to go after the proxy forces.
We're going to go after the people that are the head of the proxy forces.
But here's the problem, Natalie.
The problem is they're continuing to fund the Iranians.
They're continuing to keep these funds unfrozen.
They're continuing to go in on all of these efforts to essentially appease Iran.
Well, at the same time, trying to show face on the world stage.
They're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
The administration's policy on Iran is ridiculous.
It is reckless, and quite frankly, it is dangerous in risking opening a wider war.
Because, by the way, sure, you hit a bunch of these proxy groups, but what about the ones you didn't hit?
Now they're going to be out for blood.
Now they're going to be after U.S.
assets or any potential U.S.-backed ship, where not just in the Middle East and not just our soldiers, Who, by the way, are still sitting ducks because they've already shown they can defeat our defenses with these cheap, like, $500 drones.
They're basically lawnmowers with, you know, with bombs and wings attached to them flying, right?
Piggybacking on behind our drones and defeating our air defense radars.
But they're also shown that these drones are used to great effect in the Red Sea.
By the way, also, naval drones are shown to have great effect where?
in the Black Sea, where the Ukrainians actually just used a naval drone to take out a Russian missile ship yesterday off the coast of Crimea.
You want to tell me that the Houthis don't have those same types of naval drones as well?
Natalie, this is a huge piece that I think that the planners in the Pentagon and a lot of people just really haven't internalized yet, that the rise of drone warfare and drone swarm attacks is absolutely going to be a – this is like the invention of gunfire, invention of firearms for warfare. It's completely changed everything.
The 20th century is over.
The 20th century way of doing business is over.
This is going to change the way that we fight in war.
This is going to change the way that we fight terrorism.
By the way, this is going to change the way if you are for criminals in the United States, for cartels operating on the border, even transnational groups, if you're getting drugs across, if you're a celebrity or, you know, just a high net worth individual and you're worried about crime, you're worried about stalkers, these types of things, drones will be employed
In all of these various capacities, not just in the Middle East, not just in Ukraine, but it's going to be coming to our border and it's going to be coming to a neighborhood near you very soon.
And this administration, quite frankly, has not shown they have any idea what to do or how to respond when Americans are killed.
natalie winters
Well, look, Jack, I was going to try to find the perfect Taylor Swift song to use as a segue for this.
I was going with I Knew You Were Trouble, but maybe we should go with Wildest Dreams because what is unfolding?
So I'm sure the wildest dream of both Iran, but also the military-industrial complex here at home and Joe Biden himself.
Give me about a minute or two before I let you go.
Like I said, we've got a lot of news to get to, but just the latest on the Taylor Swift sigh-off since we did our hour-long special.
jack posobiec
So yeah, and following up on our special, so now Nikki Haley and Jake Taper, no less than those two luminaries, are over on CNN essentially attacking us for, and they're calling it a conspiracy theory, by the way.
They're saying it's a conspiracy theory to suggest that Taylor Swift might endorse Joe Biden.
I said, what's the conspiracy here?
She's done it before. She's done it in the past.
She did it. She endorsed Democrats in 2018 against Marsha Blackburn.
She endorsed Biden in 2020.
She backstopped the mail-in ballot scheme.
She backstopped this crazy hoax that Trump had called veterans suckers and losers, that he was trying to shut down the mail system, the postal system in the United States.
She was tweeting all of this stuff in 2020 or, you know, somebody was suing her for it.
But, you know, people have said to me, Natalie, that I should be a little bit nicer to the Swifties.
They said, you know what, Jack, maybe there's a way that you can you can break bread with the Swifties.
Maybe maybe you should try to embrace Taylor Swift.
And so I've said, you know what, I've taken your considerations to heart.
And therefore, because I saw something trending on Twitter yesterday and and of course, you know, we know that we're in Black History Month.
And I said, well, why don't we have a white history month?
And if we're going to have a White History Month, then we're going to need a Snow Queen of the White History Month, and the only Snow Queen that I can think of for White History Month is none other than Taylor Swift herself and so I'm very happy to bestow upon Taylor Swift and the Swifties this title as the leading national first Snow Queen of White History Month and I'm proud to say Natalie and I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna say it proudly.
I never thought he would say these words.
I am a proud Swiftie and I am a member of the White Swifties.
And when we listen to Taylor Swift music, and when everyone listens to Taylor Swift music, we have to remember that we are centering our whiteness and our white energy on Taylor Swift.
natalie winters
You can't say when I don't host the War Room that it doesn't get interesting.
So, Jack Vesovic, thank you.
Thank you so much for joining us, as always.
jack posobiec
Have a great day, Natalie.
natalie winters
If people want to follow you and have a happy White History Month and stay up to date with all your work, your reporting, where can they go to do all that?
jack posobiec
If you want to follow me, just go look at Rolling Stone, CNN, Nikki Haley, Jake Tapper, everyone, Joy Reid, Jimmy Kimmel, everyone who's attacking me right now.
But if you want to join the White Swifties, and if you want to join the celebration of White History Month, and our Snow Queen, Taylor Swift, the greatest Snow Queen the world has ever known, then you can visit me, Jack Posobiec, at Twitter, X, and Getter.
natalie winters
Jack, thank you so much for joining us.
jack posobiec
Have a good weekend, Natalie.
natalie winters
You too.
Maybe our snow king, the poster child from the male side of things for White History Month could be none other than Mike Davis, of course, the legal pit bull here in the war room.
Mike Davis, I'll hold you through the break.
We got about two minutes.
Fannie Willis, of course, they dropped this bombshell story on a Friday afternoon, hoping no one's going to cover it, but she admitted to having an affair.
Talk us through the latest, what we know on that front.
mike davis
Well, this is big trouble for Big Fanny down in Fulton County because she now has admitted to this inappropriate relationship with this boyfriend who she hired as her special prosecutor to collude with the Biden White House, including the Biden White House counsel, to bring these unprecedented RICO felony charges against President Trump and 18 co-defendants. He has never tried a felony case and
yet she's paying her boyfriend $250 an hour, substantially more than other special prosecutors who actually have experience to bring this bogus prosecution against Trump and these 18 others.
And, oh, by the way, she's taken illegal kickbacks from this illegal boyfriend, not-so-secret-anymore, in the form of these lavish trips to Napa, to the Caribbean.
Not only should she be kicked off this case and disbarred, she should go to prison if these allegations end up being true, which it looks like they very much are true.
natalie winters
I would say it's par for the course with the Biden regime.
You almost can't blame her.
If I'm not mistaken, it was Nathan Wade, the alleged boyfriend who was billing or invoicing the White House for like 24 hour work days.
But when you look at what Hunter Biden was doing, and I'm not just talking about his extracurricular activities, but his lack of legal expertise.
And getting added for a variety of foreign entities, whether it was the Chinese Communist Party, Ukraine, or even white shoe law firms here at home getting added as a partner.
There seems to be, I would say, a habit of these far left people just disrespecting the rule of law.
But I guess when you don't have to play by the rule of law, it doesn't matter.
Mike Davis, I want you to hang with us through the break.
And in the meantime, Warren Posse, you guys can go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to get the latest Installment of the end of the dollar empire.
You can only imagine what type of free handouts Joe Biden and his cronies are going to want to hand out when we get even closer to the election to try to basically buy votes in addition to the millions of people that they're importing.
I'm sure that'll have a wonderful effect on the economy too, which is why you got to check out gold and talk to the experts over at Birchgold.com slash Bannon.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bound.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the War Room.
Don't worry, we will be giving you updates as they emerge on all things happening in the Middle East, but I would say Equally resembling a third world country with a broken rule of law and justice system is frankly what's going on here in the United States with the lawfare against President Donald J. Trump.
So, Mike Davis, I hear there are some also interesting updates on the Tonya Shutkin D.C.
I know we have to be very specific because there are so many iterations of lawfare against President Trump, but specifically on that front, what is the latest?
mike davis
So remember, Biden's special counsel, Jack Smith, brought two sets of indictments, one down in Florida for the non-crime of a former president having his presidential records, but Trump actually has a fair judge down there in Eileen Cannon, so the Democrats put all their eggs in the Jack Smith basket in D.C.
with a D.C.
Obama judge, Tonya Shutkin, On this January 6th bogus trial for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, and this Tanya Shutkin was going to railroad President Trump with a March trial date.
Well, as we've been saying for a long time, Natalie, President Trump can file a motion to dismiss for presidential immunity, and that grinds these proceedings to a halt.
People laughed at us when we've been saying that, and guess what just happened today?
Judge Shutkin Tanya Shutkin, this Obama judge, just vacated her March trial.
So there goes the Democrats' hopes and dreams of having a D.C.
trial with Biden's special counsel, Jack Smith, and D.C.
Obama judge Tanya Shutkin in this 95% Trump deranged jury pool in D.C.
convicting Trump before the election.
unidentified
That just went out the window today.
natalie winters
Good news for a change, although I guess everything's relative.
Mike Davis, thank you so much for joining us.
If people want to follow you, support the Article 3 Project, I hear you guys have a new initiative.
What can they do to do all that?
mike davis
Yeah, article3project.org.
Go to the Action link on there, and what we want to do is light up Georgia Governor Brian Kemp and Attorney General Chris Carr and get them to open a criminal probe on Fannie Willis for her obvious illegal misconduct down there, her corruption.
Kemp and Carr are being total weaklings and dragging their feet, so go to that action page, call them, email them, light them up on social media.
And then we're also on social media at Article 3 Project, at Article Number 3 Project, and My personal is at M-R-D-D-M-I-A.
Thank you, Natalie.
natalie winters
Of course.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Now, our next guest, I don't think I've ever had him on, and I'm so happy he's joining us today.
I feel like you must have been in the War Room before, but if I'm mistaken on that, I guess I'll have to get fact-checked.
But I think you guys just released a report on exactly who would be fact-checking me, really a bombshell report coming from Mike Benz and the Foundation for Freedom Online, which has to do with, of course, the government kind of censorship industrial complex.
But I want to drill down, because you introduced a new word into my vocabulary today, which is civic listening.
Now, it sounds nice.
They love euphemisms.
They love couching stuff in these, like, you know, weird HR department terms.
But what exactly is civic listening, and why should the War Room Posse be so scared about something that sounds so nice?
mike benz
Yeah, they couldn't call it citizen spying, so they had to come up with a cute way to reframe it, and they call it civic listening.
The civic there refers to the sort of civil society institutions who get laundered government money, taxpayer money.
And one of the groups in this report at foundationforfreedomonline.com, it's at the top of our foundation's website, also on my Twitter feed at the top of it right now, is about how the government provided $5.7 million to a group to create a sprawling facts and memes database.
Of claims that contained misinformation related to elections or public health or about civil rights type issues, i.e.
DEI, in people's private text messages and WhatsApp chats.
Now, part of this is motivated by the fact that the political actors in control of the censorship industry are terrified that Hispanics and Latino communities are tilting towards Trump.
And they are fretting that they do not have the infrastructure to control the Spanish language that they set up successfully to censor the English language ahead of the 2020 election and the 2022 midterms, and that Hispanic and Latino populations disproportionately communicate over WhatsApp, which is a closed end-to-end encrypted system.
And so this group, Medan, got $5.7 million from the National Science Foundation.
Because the NSF has rotated into the science of censorship, essentially, which is a whole separate thread.
But they gave them $5.7 million to pay an army of civic listening corps to be able to mass report WhatsApp and private text messages.
So that this group would be able to work with WhatsApp directly to both ban those claims from being articulated or have fact check labels affixed to them when they appear in a text message, or get them to be basically throttled by WhatsApp.
And then you had a similar civic listening corps created.
By a group called the National Conference on Citizenship, which was chartered by Congress during World War II as a sort of citizenship effort around the war, which has been repurposed in 2023-2024 into a censorship organization.
They are setting up this Civic Listening Corps of hundreds of people to do a similar operation to flag information on WhatsApp and Telegram and other messenger services.
And they explicitly say it's because every political and social issue is distorted by misinformation and misleading claims.
So this is basically a long-arm jurisdiction way of seizing control over every political and social issue in the country through this private snitch network being financed by your tax dollars.
natalie winters
This story piqued my interest because a few months ago, I think I had done a story on social listening, which was this new sort of concept being rolled out by the WHO in the context of pandemics and public health.
And I sort of saw that that was the new, I think, kind of shiny toy that they were trying to really, I think, sell not just the American people, but the world on surveillance and really this idea of telling on your fellow citizens.
But from reading your report, I think the most interesting change that I saw, and even sort of a shift from what you guys really focus on, usually it's, like I said, the government funding these organizations to then directly rat on people.
But this seems to be a little different approach, where they basically want to turn Americans into spies on their fellow Americans.
So I'm just curious, from your perspective, why do you think we see that shift?
Even why are they going after WhatsApp, right, which is a more private messaging platform?
Is it because they've been so successful in the more public-facing social media platforms?
Or do you think they're getting more desperate?
mike benz
Yeah, well, I think that they've been concerned about WhatsApp for a long time.
The State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency and our foreign policy establishment all thought that the election of Modi in India and Bolsonaro in Brazil were catastrophic to U.S.
national interests and that WhatsApp was to blame for that.
And so the U.S.
State Department, my foundation, Foundation for Freedom Online, put out a report In July 2022, breaking down how the State Department and CIA cutouts like the National Endowment for Democracy were funding the pressure campaign for WhatsApp to put friction on its platform to limit the amount of shared content because there were too many Bolsonaro supporters using WhatsApp to circumvent the censorship efforts they'd already put on Facebook in the region.
And so this has been a cause of concern for a long time.
Here in the U.S., they're concerned, again, about Hispanics and Latinos tilting towards Trumpism, and that those groups, those demos, tend to use WhatsApp disproportionately.
Part of this is because WhatsApp has no text message fee associated with it.
Uh, like a typical SMS text message does.
And so all over Latin, Latin and South America, those, those populations use WhatsApp as opposed to text messages.
And WhatsApp had these large group capacities to simulate the size of Facebook groups and started to be able to get so big that it, that elections were said to be able to be tilted by the use of these private, uh, these, these private channels that, that did not have the same controls over them.
that Facebook did.
And so this is basically the State Department and the blob seizing back control over that, except now they're even doing it at home.
And, you know, they use this word civic because they're trying to enshrine this, this snitch network idea in all of our civil society institutions.
They're trying to create what they call a whole of society counter misinformation network, a whole society censorship network.
This dovetails with a parallel effort they're doing on something they call media literacy or digital literacy, which is now being forced in all K through 12 schools in multiple states in the country, California, New York, Illinois, Rhode Island, to force young children to not be, to essentially, if they want to be
Media literate, they need to essentially swear off listening to media institutions like War Room or like Breitbart or like Gateway Pundit or like even Fox News because those are deemed to be low information integrity news sites.
So if you want to be deemed to be literate, you know how to read.
If you're media literate, you need to be literate in what news sources to read.
So it's basically a way to create a North Korea-style closed box media ecosystem by banning within that school the citation of any information that comes from a non-government approved news source.
And this is now again mandated by state in at least four states just this past year.
They're making this push in every blue state now and they're building it as a civic Program, but they're essentially saying you have a civic duty to censor alternative news and a civic duty to snitch on Anybody who cites information that goes up against the government.
natalie winters
This is the sort of thing that you know, Kim Jong-un could only dream of I think the War Room Posse would probably get a lot of citations for the stories that they share, though I would say I do agree with the people that those who watch Fox News are not very literate or media literate.
Mike Benz, if you'll stay with us through the break, and in the meantime, War Room Posse, you can go to Jace Medical so you aren't reliant, not just on the Chinese Communist Party, but the globalist economic model that is outsourcing, that I'm sure all of these people who are behind all of these censorship scams I'm very supportive of.
You can bring our supply chains back home when it comes to pharmaceutical drugs and prescription drugs.
JaceMedical.com.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
But here's the point.
We all need to be responsible for being vigilant about the content that we see online.
And so each of us has a responsibility.
That responsibility starts with monitoring your own social feed, right?
And actually critically evaluating what you see in your social feed and identifying whether or not it's problematic content.
Whether or not it's something that either should be reported to the platform or at least reported to this large community, the community that includes Lisette and the Ultimate folks, that includes Emma and the Common Cause folks, and many others that we partner with to try and understand and address the problems holistically.
When you see that problematic content, it's critically important that you report it.
I'm going to, in a minute, explain how you can report it to our platform and make it accessible to everyone else.
And there's one key insight.
If you aren't sure if it's wrong, if you're just suspicious, report it anyway.
But then we have that information.
If you don't report it, we will never know you saw it.
So it's better to be more inclusive than exclusive.
And then when you're engaging or encountering problematic content in the wild, on social media, within your communities, in your healthcare clinic, It's critically important that you actively engage with it, right?
So not just ignore it, dismiss it.
But that's a really tricky prospect, right?
So it's really important to think about listening and responding when stuff is false, but doing so in a responsible way, right?
That responsible way is a challenge you have to deal with.
It's different in every circumstance and every person that you deal with, but recognizing that you want to avoid confrontation and you want to share credible information.
And we have a lot more Um, resources about how to do this but the basic idea is that we need to be responsible for this misinformation.
To do that, and in partnership with ultimate in this case, we've created a set of tip lines.
There's an SMS phone number you can text any link to there's an email address, there's a WhatsApp number you can forward content that you find on WhatsApp, and there's a web form that you can access.
This QR code that's up on the screen right now is a shortcut to all of them that you can add to your mobile device.
So if you pull out your phone, point the camera app at this QR code, it'll say, do you want to add the UltimED tip lines to your address?
natalie winters
Absolutely insane.
Sometimes I feel like I'm living in China, not just because I do so much Reporting on the Chinese Communist Party, but as we always say, it's not just elite capture, it's elite merger.
As a side effect, I always say, is the circumstantial evidence that our elites are in business and in bed with the Chinese Communist Party.
Just look at what they subject American citizens to.
Mike Benz, I want you to walk us through what we just watched, but also you said a word in the last segment, election interference.
And if I'm not mistaken, One of the groups, MEDAN, which is a funny name, I would say, they were active in the 2022 midterms using these tactics to, like you said, go after primarily Hispanic voters, but specifically on the election interference front.
What are they doing?
mike benz
Yeah.
So who you just heard on that tape was a man named Cameron Hickey.
Cameron Hickey started out in his censorship career as part of Harvard's Information Disorder at the Shorenstein Institute there.
This was a Harvard center dedicated to censoring the internet.
Anybody who was pro-Trump or anybody who was COVID orthodoxy critical was basically perpetuating information disorder in society.
And this is one of the four major branches at Harvard that were tasked with helping censor the internet.
Harvard's Belfer Center, for example, which worked with the information disorder folks, was partnered with the Department of Homeland Security to censor mail-in ballots.
And the DHS censorship operation ended up having 22 million tweets in the five months before the 2020 election, classified as misinformation for challenging the integrity or the credibility of mail-in ballots.
They pre-censored that whole thing.
And if you're wondering how that happened, It was through this exact network, this Department of Homeland Security Harvard network that ties into a whole other network around something called the Election Integrity Partnership that Congress and multiple lawsuits have tracked down.
But what he's talking about there in that clip, currently after his Harvard information disorder stint, he's now the head of something called the National Conference on Citizenship.
Which is a public interest firm that was created by Congress.
This was a government-created institution that he's running, and he's wielding it as a subgroup there called the Algorithmic Transparency Institute, which is a little group they've created for censoring algorithms to rig elections and political and social discourse, however they want to rig it.
And you know it always goes one way.
In using this technique of having this Civic listening, core, private snitch army, mass report any claims or memes that go viral on people's news feeds or in their private WhatsApp text messages.
And again, they're focused on WhatsApp because they want to control, in particular, Spanish language affairs here in the U.S.
and then internationally to be able to control elections in countries where WhatsApp is the main Discourse, a text messaging app.
But it goes deeper than that because one of the things that was in another clip from our report is he goes over what specifically, what kind of claims should be reported.
And he cites on video that, for example, if you see Tucker Carlson talking about the Great Replacement Theory or talking about replacement migration with respect to open borders, that that should be submitted on this government propped up snitch line.
So this is the government essentially deputizing a civilian snitch corps to mass report and block the ability for Tucker Carlson to go viral on social media and on WhatsApp.
And you know who else he included in the presentation was Senator Rand Paul for Senator Rand Paul's criticism of Tony Fauci and COVID orthodoxy.
So you have one wing of the government essentially deputizing a private snitch army to To stop another wing of government from being able to popularize its claims.
I mean, this is basically an attempt by the blob deep state to control rogue politicians and the people who they're supposed to be subject to as a civilian run government.
This is basically the permanent government stepping in with it, using government resources to block the voters from voting them out.
natalie winters
Mike Benz, I usually say thank you to the guests for coming on.
Thank you for alarming us to this, but on the other hand, oh my goodness, what a can of worms you have just opened, but you guys do such excellent work at the Foundation for Freedom Online.
So if people want to follow you, I know you're always coming in hot on X, but support the group, help you with your work.
Where can everyone go to do all that?
mike benz
Yep, so find me at MikeBenCyber on X. It's all one word, at MikeBenCyber.
Post every day.
Tons of hard-hitting breaking news.
So that's probably the best place to follow me.
And again, FoundationForFreedomOnline.com is where we publish our long-form reports.
Thanks, Natalie, for covering this.
Godspeed.
natalie winters
Of course.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Now, our next guest is someone who I'm sure would have a lot of complaints filed against her, and that is probably the highest badge of honor in America in 2024.
That is, of course, Dr. Naomi Wolf, who has interesting new reporting.
Now, believe it or not, the FDA is up to their old deceitful lying tactics, but this time it has to do with informed consent and studies and research.
Can you walk us through the changes that they've instituted?
dr naomi wolf
Well, they just don't quit, do they, Natalie?
So this is actually a very good piece by The Defender, which is children's health defense.
And it's about a new regulation, a new ruling issued by the U.S.
FDA, our favorite agency.
And now that they've been found guilty of having violated so many people's informed consent, by rolling out these poisonous, debilitating, sterilizing, and sometimes murderous injections.
They've just changed the definition of informed consent so that they will be in the clear in the future if they want to experiment on us without our knowledge or permission.
So what they did is they implemented a provision of the 21st Century Cures Act, which is a law from December 2016 And what it does, and I don't even, I'm not a lawyer, but I don't even get how this is possible.
They created, and they're not Congress, so I really don't understand how it's possible, but they created a ruling related to this law that makes the law do things that international law and domestic law on informed consent does not permit.
Just a reminder to everyone, we all are subject to Nuremberg laws and Nuremberg codes, I beg your pardon, which say that you can't And they were put in place as international law after the Nuremberg trials at the end of World War II.
And the reason they were needed is that all of the unlawful, non-consenting, horrific experimentation, medical experimentation on prisoners, Jewish prisoners and other, you know, gypsy, homosexual, so on, prisoners of Nazis came to light And so the need was obvious that you need to prevent this going forward.
So it is literally illegal to do something to someone in the United States medically, unless you explain the risks and benefits and get their affirmative consent.
And you certainly cannot experiment on them without their affirmative consent.
And there are detailed forms you have to sign if you're the subject of a clinical trial or a medical experiment, essentially.
Um, which details that this may have, you know, risks and here are the risks and, uh, do you affirmatively consent and you have to sign it before anything can happen?
Well, that's all in the rear view mirror of history now.
Um, the new rule is supposed to, you know, your last segment, you were identifying kind of, um, new speak, uh, you know, civic listening.
Well, this is new speak.
Um, You can experiment on people without their consent now in order to bring new innovations and advances to patients who need them faster and more efficiently.
So the critical thing for your audience to know is that the final rule quote, allows an exception from the requirement to obtain informed consent when a clinical investigation poses no more than a minimal risk to the human subject and includes appropriate safeguards to protect the rights, safety, and welfare of human subjects.
Who's to decide?
Of course, not you anymore, my friend.
Who's going to be deciding, if there's any question?
An institutional review board.
The same kinds of technocrats who brought you mass murder, genocide, democide, mass sterilization, and so on.
And the International Review Board can waive or alter certain informed consent elements or waive the requirements to obtain informed consent under limited conditions.
For instance, certain FDA regulated minimal risk clinical investigations, such as the kind that we have been busting open for all of you for the last two years as being so appallingly unlawful.
And the last thing I want to say, and then I promise I will pause, is that rightly, RFK Jr.
and other critics, Robert Lyons-Weiler, for instance, have, I'm sorry, James Lyons-Weiler, it's been a long day, have pointed out, well, R.P.
Junior, interestingly, says that this opens the door for medicines or ingredients that entities want to test.
And we've seen the close relationship, the united relationship between corporations, for instance, and the FDA with Pfizer documents.
But he warns that this allows for spraying, for instance, of some substance they want to test.
Gee, you know, what does this do to the people?
Let's just spray them.
It's minimal risk, you know, we don't know, of course, into the water supply or onto us, our air supply, aerosolized spraying.
And he says it's not the first time.
In 1966, the Army tested germ warfare dispersion in the New York City subways.
The FDA is cheering it on.
James Lyons Wyler called the ruling wrong in every way possible when it comes to the culture of informed consent and human rights and medical rights.
And so you can literally imagine, I mean, we've been talking about, you know, the rollout of mRNA injections in our meat.
And I literally have people saying, is it in beef yet?
Is it in pork yet?
Is it in chicken yet?
And I don't know.
And this regulation, this rule applied to a law without Congress's oversight or our consent makes it impossible for us to know essentially.
natalie winters
Dr. Wolf, if you can stick with us through the break.
You sort of beat me to it with what my question is, but I'm curious if this is sort of a CYA move, or it's because they have even more diabolical, sinister plans for us.
Or I guess, could be both, right?
We know it's not mutually exclusive.
Warren Post, you can go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to make sure your finances are not beholden to this crazy globalist elite in the break.
And we'll be right back.
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natalie winters
Now we say no conspiracy is but no coincidences here in the war room.
And I just have to say, in response to everything that Dr. Wolf said, it should not be lost on anyone that it is Anthony Fauci's wife who is the head of the NIH's bioethics division.
And as someone who has read a lot of her studies and papers that she has published, a lot of them, and by a lot I mean a hefty number, have been focused on the ethics of informed consent.
and why it's sort of an illusion and why it's maybe not really all that important.
Now, I don't know. I haven't done the research yet linking it to this new FDA push, but I will say it makes you think. And on the topic of no conspiracies, but no coincidences, you guys got to check out she's so right.co. We have some new no conspiracies, but no coincidences bumper stickers, which probably a way to guarantee you get pulled over by the feds.
How's that for marketing?
But in the meantime, I think we still got Dr. Wolff with us and we'll have Mike Lindell joining us shortly.
But Dr. Wolff, my question for you, do you think they're doing this sort of to pregame either it's the mRNA, you know, vaccines and the cattle and the food supply, another pandemic, you know, why now?
That's sort of my perennial question.
Why now?
dr naomi wolf
I mean, the first answer is, this is what pharma has wanted all along.
And to some extent, you know, the US government, the Department of Defense, what is better than being able to experiment on populations without having to get their permission?
If you're, you know, wondering about a bio warfare agent, or just if you've got a new product, and you want to see if it works or not.
Um, I mean, this is basically bringing Africa to us and India in the sense that pharmaceutical companies have, have for decades been experimenting really without informed consent, according to leaders in West Africa, especially in India, um, you know, on populations and, and there are many, many, many lawsuits because of the harms that have come to, um, those quote unquote, you know, disposable quote, unquote, voiceless populations.
Right.
Um, so now we're voiceless too, and it's our turn now.
And, you know, karma is also coming back at us because maybe we should have spoken up for those people, you know, and now sure enough, it's come home to roost.
But so number one is we're now 330 million test subjects for no money and no liability and, you know, lots of products to roll out.
Um, but the second thing, I think you're right.
There's, I think there is CYA here because if you can create an environment in which Um, in a lawsuit or in a congressional hearing, you know, experts can say, well, you know, there really isn't informed consent the way there used to be anymore.
naomi wolf
Um, it's, it's much harder to get justice for the harms that were done, uh, back when everyone was supposed to follow the laws of informed consent.
dr naomi wolf
Um, so I don't think that this does away with the crimes.
But I think it creates an environment in which, I mean, I think what James Lyons Weiler said is really accurate.
It does damage to the culture of human rights.
And part of human rights is a social consensus, right?
And so if you have laws against, you know, rape or against trafficking children, and, you know, there was a lot of rape or trafficking of children, and then you did away with the laws, making those criminal acts, You've now got a culture that's a rape culture or a children trafficking culture and it's much, much harder to get justice.
So that's my initial analysis.
natalie winters
Dr. Wolf, I wish I could keep you longer because this seems to be a story with many scary ramifications, but I've got to let you go.
But if people want to read this, check you guys out, The Daily Clout, your book, where can they go to stay up to date with everything you're working on?
dr naomi wolf
Thank you.
So this article is The Defender, and we blinked to it, but they've done this wonderful work.
And as always, come to dailyclout.io for our wonderful work.
And we have this new election integrity bill, which we broke on War Room, and we really need everyone to download it, share it, send it to your elected officials, and of course, help us get to 49 more states in time for November.
natalie winters
I'm glad you are in the election integrity battle because we need fighters like you.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Have a nice weekend.
dr naomi wolf
Thank you, Natalie.
Thank you so much.
You too.
natalie winters
Of course.
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