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Jan. 24, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3340: Marches Against German Energy; Flooding Of Immigration In Germany
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dave walsh
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steve bannon
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todd bensman
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ben harnwell
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mike lindell
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steve stern
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, January 24, in the year of our Lord 2024, the day after a crushing defeat of Nikki Haley in New Hampshire.
But hey, it don't matter because Nikki's down there with the big money and got the Murdoch platform, all of it.
This is a 30-front war, as you know, so we're going to talk about the second part of this that's coming, and this is probably the most in-your-faith.
Of all the bad stuff you've seen, the debt ceiling deal, the omnibus deals, everything, you're about to have something that so insults your intelligence, and this is where we're going to talk about how this country's run, and how this country's run, and how the other nations of the world are run.
And who really has the power?
They sit there on MSNBC and all they talk about is democracy, democracy, democracy, you gotta have democracy.
You think you got democracy?
Well, last time I checked, Donald Trump won Iowa and Donald Trump won New Hampshire.
And the Republicans have been the quote-unquote border security people and, you know, think through the America First, think through what's in America's interest about this global empire that we're not particularly running well.
You're about to have dropped on you a thermonuclear weapon.
That is the most outrageous thing I've ever seen.
And that is this, um, uh, the bill that's a border, really an amnesty bill that is Republic ending.
If passed Republic any cause it codifies, it codifies the invasion that's gone on under the Biden regime.
In addition, It is, they've held that hostage, so they, then we get into the money laundering operation of the defense contractors and the global elites and Wall Street to their buddies, the oligarchs in Ukraine.
And Mitch McConnell's sitting down there right now saying, oh no, you know, this is in our national security, no, it's not in our national security interest.
If it's in anybody's interest, it's the Europeans, and they're not stepping up, and they're not gonna step up.
Because they got an American security guarantee by the United States of America, particularly the deplorables.
It's your sons and daughters.
It's your blood and your treasure.
And they're going to continue to soak it as long as this corrupt uniparty in Washington, D.C.
is prepared to shovel your cash and your sons and daughters over there.
So that's coming.
And now they've had a big fracas at the weekly lunch in the Senate.
Almost came to blows yesterday.
Because Lee and these guys are saying, hey, you've just had Lankford up there, you pick Lankford.
And people in Oklahoma should fire up on his office right now.
It's a disgrace what he's been allowed.
They've used him as a puppet and they admitted it yesterday.
Not one member of the United States Senate, not one Republican has seen anything about the text of this bill.
Nothing.
Mike Lee and Rand Paul sitting there going, what are we, stooges?
Only Lankford's seen it from McConnell and his inner circle, and you know why?
Because it ain't pretty.
And the news we broke on here with Rosemary Jenks and that crowd last week is 1,000% correct.
1,000% correct.
So we're gonna get into that, and we're gonna start talking about people are not taking it anymore, and that's the populist right revolution throughout the world, and particularly in Europe, where people have had a belly full of this, and they're not gonna tolerate this anymore.
So we got a lot to get through.
Jim Rickards is going to join us.
I got Harnwell.
Todd Bensman.
And remember, Bensman, the great work he's done here, breaking all the stories, all the analysis in the U.S.
He spent about a month over in Europe.
He said, hey, It's different in degree, but not in kind.
The same exact thing's happening there.
We're going to get Benzmann up as soon as somebody tells him.
Ben Harnwell, let's start with you.
I've got, by the way, Dave Walsh.
Dave Walsh, thank you so much.
I understand you've been doing some stuff with the family and your brother.
You'd be a great brother to have.
Dave Walsh is as good as they get, and Dave Walsh is going to be here to talk to us a little bit about energy policy.
I want to start with Harnwell.
Harnwell in Rome.
And I've got to be kind of a clip, a quick clip, because we've got to get a lot through here.
And Jim Rickards is going to join us here momentarily.
Talk to me about the Guardian, the Times of London.
These people get what's happening.
Walk me through where the media is right now about this populist revolt in Europe.
And remember, I want everybody to understand and say, well, Steve, why do we care?
It doesn't matter.
Brexit in June of 16 laid the predicate for the Trump victory in November because these things kind of happen in the zeitgeist, right?
The Brexit, really the MAGA movement of England, the Brexit movement to take their sovereignty back was the precursor, the forerunner of the MAGA victory in November of 16.
And that's what you're seeing.
The European parliamentary elections are in, guess what?
Providentially, or in June of this coming year with our elections in November.
Ben Harnwell, what do you got for me?
ben harnwell
Good morning, Steve.
Well, picking up on what you just said about Brexit in 2016, it's not only the victory of Donald Trump in the American elections that it was the starting point from.
I'm going to start now and I'll pivot back to this at the end.
Alice Weidel, the leader of the Alternative for Deutschland in Germany, has come out and said that that's actually the model as well for Germany.
Britain's exit from the European Union is also the model she suggests for Germany.
I'm going to come back to Alice Weidel and the AFD.
But to come back to your point now, this is something I'm basically talking about every day when I come on to the show.
What is happening here in Europe?
And this is the growth of the populist nationalist movements right across Europe.
On Friday, the Warren Posse will have heard me mentioning with Dr. Navarro this development that was picked up by the Daily Telegraph, the UK's Daily Telegraph, which had the headline, mass migration is about to sweep away the West's blinkered ruling class.
Well, there's been another story, Steve, which I'm going to share with you now, which is absolutely astonishing.
And here it is.
It's confirming everything that we're saying that that's going on here and have been saying, I think, really for the last Six months as we turned our attention now to these European elections that are coming up in the second week of June of this year.
Here's the Times, this is Murdoch Press by the way, it's Murdoch Press, same owners as Fox News, drilling down saying that the anti-EU populists are poised to dominate in the European elections and they have this absolutely astonishing fact here taken from the European Council of Foreign Relations which forecasts that these anti-EU populists are going to, now listen to
this, they're either going to be the largest party or the dominant party in 18 out of the 27 EU member states after June.
This is an absolute tidal wave of anger.
And it's exactly what we see in the United States.
It's the same thing here in the European Union.
In fact, the article itself indicates that the two primary causes of this are migration and then the anti-climate change legislation that's being brought in at an EU level.
Massively, deeply unpopular.
Both of these things.
And Steve, what are the elites doing?
in response to this.
How are they responding to this?
With a degree of hubris and arrogance, which is difficult to describe.
Joseph Borrell, who's the former president of the European Parliament, called this basically a hormonal rage on behalf of the European peoples.
He said that they were basically uninformed about what's going on.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Hang on one second.
I just want to go back and just hit, because I don't want to bring in people.
You're going to stick around for the hour.
Rickard's going to come.
I need you to stick around.
What are the two issues that are driving this anti-EU populist nationalist revolt in Europe?
Give me the two issues again, sir.
ben harnwell
It's anger over uncontrolled, I'm quoting it, anger over uncontrolled migration and popular hostility to the net zero climate change measures, which we saw in France basically from the yellow jackets onwards.
steve bannon
Yes, we're going to get it.
That drives all.
This is the economic disparity.
The elites don't care, but it's crushing the working class people because it's insanity.
Just hang on for one second.
I'm going to get Benzmann up in a second, but let me go, I want to go to the energy part of that.
The second part of that is this absurd and ridiculous and anti-rational mumbo-jumbo voodoo of climate change, particularly hits certain countries.
Go ahead, Dave Walsh.
dave walsh
Well, the net zero march in Germany and across Western Europe has led to, over the last 15 years, companies like BMW, Bayer AG, Mercedes relocating major factory capacity to, for example, South Carolina, Greenville, Spartanburg, to our great advantage.
Why?
Well, for the last 15 years, energy costs, electricity costs in South Carolina have been only about 20% of what they are in West Germany, in Germany.
So now we're talking about with added pressure on more and more green spending and more and more transition away from Manufacturing anything that produces CO2, including specialty metals, facilities, foundries, steel plants, chemical plants, basically needing to be eradicated in Germany and in Austria because of emissions, emissions, quote-unquote, of CO2 in production, all of that capacity would be moving to the global south, dominantly to Asia.
No longer to the Americas, where energy costs are now on the rise, for the same reasons.
But this is the nub of why 1,500 truckers are at the Brandenburg Gate protesting the demise of industrial Germany now, at this point.
steve bannon
Is Germany on a path of de-industrialization?
dave walsh
Completely.
It has been slowly.
Now it's accelerating, with these programs accelerating.
We've got 60 billion of euro.
of COVID recovery funding now attempting to be transferred by the Bundestag into more green energy programs to even accelerate any carbon emissions from any manufacturing of anything causing industry to need to relocate in mass out of Germany.
steve bannon
It's not just the industrialization. The people bearing the brunt of this right now is the farmers.
That's what we see from Netherlands to Germany.
And Germany ran out of the truckers, but it's also the farmers.
I want to announce that we're going to have a trucker farmer going to the southern border.
But the radical programs for farmers of what they're trying to force the farmers to do, right, with the denitrification, all this, they're so over the top.
First off, they're so wacky in what they're trying to accomplish.
But the way they're doing it is eco-fascism.
dave walsh
Yeah, these policies focus on ammonia-based and nitrogen-based fertilizers, which are the dominant major advanced fertilizers of the last 50 years in the world, being eliminated.
The use of those being eliminated, which will vastly reduce the productivity of farmlands in Holland, in Germany, in Austria.
And cause more dependence on Brazil and Southeast Asia as the new breadbasket of the world as we transition modern advanced farming with high productivity out of Germany, out of Holland, eventually out of the U.S.
with the movement against ammonia and nitrogen-based fertilizers because they're gas-based.
steve bannon
For the United States, for our vast audience here, the MAGA, the deplorables, the Warren Posse, The U.S.
branch.
This is all coming to the U.S.
Germany is just a test case of what they're doing.
This is what John Kerry, these crazy... If you look at the Biden regime, they have been so radical just below the surface in doing this, but this is coming here to the United States.
dave walsh
It's already here in spades with the green transition of massive subsidies to offshore wind, onshore wind, and solar.
But now, even this week, we have a Democrat proposal for a carbon tax on all production that emanates carbon of any kind, including energy, foods grown, products made in the U.S., products transported in the U.S.
Four Republicans have stood up.
Four Republican senators, being Boozman, Lindsey Graham, Cynthia Loomis, unbelievably from Wyoming, and Kevin Cramer from North Dakota, are backing The imposition of a carbon tax on American manufacturing and energy production.
Unbelievably.
So this is a bit of a bipartisan thing.
This is the shocking thing with this green movement and net-zero transition.
Here, as we discovered in Florida, with DeSantis' own actions supporting the build-out of 1,200 square miles of solar farms in Florida by NextEra, with 23 million of their donations into his campaign coffers, We've got four Republican senators supporting the imposition of a carbon tax across the country.
steve bannon
And this carbon tax is totally regressive, right?
dave walsh
Completely.
steve bannon
It hurts.
This is the thing.
They're so phony.
It's the little guy, it's the little guy, the working poor and the working class are going to bear the brunt of this.
This carbon tax is the most elitist tax I've ever seen.
It's insane on the first part, but the way it's given, it's totally elitist.
dave walsh
It's a surcharge imposed on the production of anything, the manufacturer of anything, the growing of any food products or any products transported.
Where those activities, transportation or production or agriculture, cause, argued, CO2 emissions.
A surcharge being placed on the cost of all the above.
steve bannon
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Make sure you talk to Philip Paxman, the team.
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Short break.
unidentified
Jim Rickards, Mike One of the questions that's on my mind is this issue of sort of the quasi-incumbency, right?
Because the argument is, if you treat him like an incumbent, he should be around 80, 84 percent, right?
He should have almost all the Republican votes.
But he's not.
And he's running against people who are giving him a little bit of a run for his money.
So, Britt, how do you judge that?
How do you figure out whether or not he has enough growth potential to beat Biden?
If you think of him as incumbent.
This is showing tonight's weak, right?
I mean, he should be doing better.
And it's also a sign of weakness that the independents and others who voted in this primary were unwelcomed, not welcomed by the Trump campaign and by a lot of his supporters.
The idea being, of course, that we wouldn't want to have that kind of a party and a candidate that draws in people from the other party.
So there's a sort of insane political logic at work here, but there's weakness there with Trump.
There's no doubt about it, even if he wins easily and going away.
Look, he lost in 2020.
His candidate's lost in 2022.
I mean, he has a lot of losses on his book.
steve bannon
By the way, that's from Murdoch News.
They called it illegitimately at, what, 8 o'clock at night in Arizona?
Brett Hume.
Mike Lindell, they've banned you.
Now it's quite obvious why you've been banned and canceled at Fox.
Why they won't take your million dollars every week or two million dollars every week, whatever it is.
They can't possibly have you Hugging a pillow up there in all their shows and having people get deals at the same time you're out supporting President Trump, because that's the anti-Trump network right there.
Brett Hume just laid it out on you.
I just have a question on, I just want to make sure I get the history right here.
Is Brett Hume right?
Did President Trump lose in 2020, sir?
mike lindell
No, he won by about 10 million votes, if not more.
It was the biggest, biggest crime in history.
And we've been a part of the last three years, the biggest coverup of the biggest crime in history.
And that's what we spend every day doing, my whole team.
We're getting to secure our elections.
Steve, I want to tell you, you know, I speak this Monday in front of the GOP about our election platforms.
I wonder if Jeff DeWitt's going to come and sit in the front row.
You've got to wonder that.
This is what we're up against, everybody.
Networks like Fox News and our own GOP and a lot of other places, they don't want Donald Trump in there to help save our country.
steve bannon
You saw what happened last night.
You see where she's going to go raise the money.
By the end of the day, we're at about $300 million, I think, right now.
So before she absolutely is ground to dust politically, there'll be a half a billion dollars spent on this.
Has any of that money come to you, Mike Lindell, for election integrity?
Has any of that money gone into the state GOPs?
To make sure they can't steal it, the Democrats can't steal it again.
Has any of the money come in for infrastructure, logistics?
Has any of the money come in for get out the vote, to your knowledge, sir?
mike lindell
No, just by micro-donors, you know, people that care, these other people, these big donors that should be putting in money to secure our elections, that should have been doing this for the past four or five years, and nothing from them.
It's crickets.
And if we had those resources at LyndalePlan.com, we would be moving forward ten times probably faster than we are now.
And that's the only thing holding us back.
You know, if you put all this money into these campaigns and stuff and waste this money frivolously when you're not even looking at the field you're playing on.
It's like playing a football game and you got a 90 degree angle going straight up when you're on offense.
When they're on offense, they're rolling down the hill.
It's disgusting what they're doing.
She should drop out.
By what Fox has done to myself and my pillow, you know, to attack a company that is employee-owned just because their CEO is out there wanting to secure our election platform.
And they're worried about his network, Lyndale TV, that are out there every day speaking about what a great president Donald Trump is and what he's a real president.
Let's get together and move on and not waste all this money.
It's a manifestation of a sold-in election.
Everybody knows that.
And let's get together and move on and not waste all this money.
steve bannon
And we have one shot to save our country.
posse's gain people love these deals.
Tell them about the deals we have two minutes.
Tell us about the deals.
Where do they go?
How do they take advantage of what Rupert Murdoch has cut off from his audience?
mike lindell
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steve bannon
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unidentified
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steve bannon
Tell the operators we're not going to let the IRS put them out of business.
Also, on the flannel sheets, we don't need any, as a populist national movement, we don't need any stinking silk sheets or satin sheets.
That's for those elites on Park Avenue.
For the barbarians at the gate, get a nice, get those flannel sheets, keep you warm.
Mike Lindell, look forward to seeing you this afternoon, brother.
Keep fighting.
And give me a call, Mike, text me, do me a favor, text me when Suzanne Scott, the CEO over at Murdoch News, when she contacts you for your sit-down, can you please text me?
I just want to, I want to, you know, I want to be in the loop.
mike lindell
when you're all about that's all your brother and see uh...
steve bannon
uh...
by the way the lew dot lew dot shows on fire so i think that they're upset with you on that too So.
Thank you, brother.
Lou Dobbs.
Follows us at 7 o'clock.
It's incredible.
What an honor.
Ben Harnwell, I think we got some time.
I think Jim Rickards, we're gonna do Jim, I think, tomorrow.
I want to give him an entire hour because it's so amazing when he comes on.
The top guy in currency in the world, wrote Currency Wars, now has strategic intelligence.
You can go over there to his newsletter.
In fact, Dave thought he might be retired.
He's back.
He's better than ever, bigger than ever, one of the biggest brains out there, strategic intelligence.
Go check it out.
We'll try to get Jim for like an hour tomorrow.
Harnwell, just repeat, go back and repeat, what are the two biggest issues driving MAGA in Europe, MAGA in Europe, or make their country great, make Hungary great again, make Germany great again.
Wow.
Make Germany great again.
unidentified
I think that works.
steve bannon
What are the two issues, brother, what are the two issues that are driving this, according to the major media sources in Europe right now, sir?
ben harnwell
It's popular opposition to the net zero climate legislation and the whole-scale incompetence of the European elites and member-state national level to handle the existential crisis posed by unrestrained migration.
Otherwise known as the invasion.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
Let's bring in Todd Benzman right now.
Todd, you actually took, I think, a month away from the southern border to go to Europe because you understand the inextricably linked nature of this invasion.
Give us your thoughts.
Now you've seen a populous political uprising from England to Germany to France to Italy, all of it, about what you saw.
Tell the audience what you found when you went there.
todd bensman
Well, first of all, the numbers pouring into Western Europe from the external states is at historic record highs, not seen since the last mass migration crisis in 2015-2016.
In 2023, there were 308,000 known detections of illegals crossing through.
there were 308,000 known detections of illegals crossing through.
You're looking right now at Syrians that I found in Sarajevo switching from one smuggler's cars to another group of smugglers' cars.
Syrians happen to lead, uh, the nationalities.
They top the list of nationalities that are pouring into Europe.
This is not good.
The last time that happened, uh, we saw terror attacks in Paris.
And Brussels and unending gun battles in the streets for two years with Syrians that came in this way.
These are all young military age males.
I read a UN report showing that the vast majority, 92% of all of the Syrians are young, unmarried, single men, just like this.
And they're coming through the Balkans route again, which had been shut off by Hungary's big long fence with Serbia and Croatia But Croatia joined the Schengen zone Abandoned its border posts and they found a way through Bosnia right around the Hungarian fence into Slovenia because Slovenia
They elected a liberal government that was all pro-immigrant, and they're letting everybody in.
They abandoned their fence.
Slovenia had a fence.
They abandoned it.
I toured it.
I found holes in it.
It was ripped down.
You could just cross back and forth.
Nobody cared.
Once they get to Slovenia, they claim asylum and they get released.
And that is the exact dynamic.
That is playing out on the US-Mexico border.
Nothing changes.
When you let them in, they come.
And that's what's happening in Europe.
You've got these liberal governments that are... Exactly the same.
steve bannon
Yes.
Ben Smith, hang on one second.
I just want to repeat.
We've only got 30 seconds.
92% of the Syrians are men.
And where are they all, when they come through these different routes, what's their destination?
Where are they all heading?
todd bensman
Mostly Germany.
They want to go to Germany.
That's the rich country.
They give them the most stuff.
Uh, some of them are going to the Netherlands as well.
But when I ask them, where are you going?
It's Germany.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
It's exactly similar to what's happening in Europe in the United States of America.
This is the destruction of the Judeo-Christian West before us by the elites that have leeched off this system for too many decades.
It's time now for their overthrow.
next in the war room Here's your host Stephen K band Oh Oh Okay, Jim Rickards, that's my wingman, Dave Walsh.
I just found out Dave Walsh and I graduated from college in the exact same year.
Dave Walsh from the University of Virginia, and Stephen K. Bannon from VPI.
That's all in water.
dave walsh
Down the road, just down the road.
steve bannon
Just down the road.
You went to the high class.
Actually, Tech, that's a land-grant university by President Lincoln.
Working men and women down there, engineering, agriculture, of course, the hoity-toity, the hoity-toity, you know, lawyers, doctors, the Virginia bluebloods and the elites.
Are you from Virginia?
Pittsburgh.
See, that's nothing but UVA.
Letting them Yankees in down there?
dave walsh
To this day, Tech, one of the nation's great engineering schools.
steve bannon
It is.
Tech is one of the great.
Absolutely.
The folks down in Blacksburg, incredible job.
Engineering, agriculture.
Got them a little woke.
Not as woke as UVA.
dave walsh
Not like UVA.
steve bannon
UVA is over the top.
Topic for another day.
Benzeman, we're, and I hear our intelligence, they're either going to drop it on us on Friday or maybe next week.
They're trying to, and no Republican senators are seeing the deal.
This is why they had almost a fistfight yesterday in the Senate lunch.
And 202-225-3121, make sure you're up on the phones and on the ramparts today, particularly in the Senate, to let the Republican, your Senators know, hey, under no uncertain circumstances at all is this thing going to pass.
None of the amnesty bills going to pass and no more money to the corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine.
Not one penny.
In fact, we want to go back with Marjorie Taylor Greene's Uh, accountability project and carve back the money they took and put into Monaco, in the south of France, in Belgravia, where they've been ripping off the money.
That ain't me saying it, that's the people in Ukraine.
Ben Harnwell's been showing you all the stories coming out of the major papers in Europe.
You can't hide it anymore.
Benzman, one more time, you're the single best guy we've had.
Burquam does the reporting, but you've been down for the analysis.
You're from Texas DPS Intelligence Unit.
You took a month off, or longer, in the middle of this crisis in the United States.
You said, hey, guess what?
I've got to understand what's happening in Europe.
What are the number one or two takeaways that you found from the invasion, the exact same type of invasion, allowed by the exact same type of elites in Europe, sir?
todd bensman
Well, it's just that water will always find the path of least resistance and leak through your roof.
In Europe, you've got liberal governments and you have conservative governments, and the immigration flows have found the liberal governments, basically, and they're pouring through the cracks, mainly Slovenia on the Balkans route.
And also now Poland is at risk of this Poland just elected.
It's one of the few EU countries What that actually moved to the left in its last election in October?
They've got a big wall against Belarus, you know that whole thing and it looks like that the new PM over there Donald Tusk is willing to let them in and to claim asylum on humanity for humanity because he's he's he's on the EU payroll.
steve bannon
He's an EU guy.
That's one of the globalists.
todd bensman
He's a guy, yeah.
steve bannon
And by the way, you say conservative, the conservative governments over there have been terrible.
It's the populist right that's dug in hard.
You're going to see the British government fall here in the next couple of weeks, I think, because they can't handle it.
They're in the mumble tank over sending the boats back.
That's why you need a Nigel Farage who's been on this from day one.
This is the reason.
It wasn't the laws in Brussels.
They were bad because they had people arguing that.
It was about immigration.
It was about immigration to destroy their country, sir.
todd bensman
Right.
To finish up on that thought, Right now you will hear, if you're reading about immigration and the EU and all of the elections coming up, something called the New Pact on Asylum and Migration.
It's been approved.
It's now going to be going through a ratification process.
But when you read the brass tacks of that document, it's supposed to create a universal system of rules and regulations and laws for handling illegal immigrants crossing at the external border.
But when you read the details of it, the fine print, you basically see that they're going to give Each individual country, the ability to opt out of the tough deportation and detention things that are in this.
So they don't really mean anything when you consider that water always finds the weak link or the weak crack in the wall.
This new pact is not what they're portraying it to be at all.
steve bannon
No, come on, come on.
It's always some deal like they're going to do here.
Benzmann, give us your location, social media, all of it.
You're going to be non-stop with us as they come and drop the thermonuclear weapon that is, remember, they're going to drop an amnesty bill.
That's republic ending, because it's going to codify this and take the power away from Trump, which is what they want to do.
And at the same time, they're going to fund their oligarch buddies in Ukraine, because they don't want the Ukrainians to start coughing up the reality and the truth on the bioweapons lab, on the child trafficking, on the organ harvesting, and on the money laundering.
Benjamin, where are they going to get it from you?
todd bensman
That's right.
I'm at BenzmanToddXNX.
I've also got an account with Getter and Truth Social, ToddBenzman.com website.
CIS.org, Center for Immigration Studies.org.
You can read a bunch of my stuff there.
I'm all over the place, so ToddBinsman.com is a good central location.
And by the way, I had some of this this morning that I got from your studio.
A good pick-me-up, right?
Thank you.
steve bannon
Whoa!
Come on, you know, Benzmann was a little slow out of the box yesterday.
The elites had taken him around partying, dining, so we had to give him some Warpath.
Warpath coffee, it will jack you up.
Look at Benzmann, so much sharper.
You're so much sharper than today, but I didn't want to do just a crass plug, but thanks for doing it.
unidentified
Todd Benzmann, the one and only.
steve bannon
I want everybody to understand, please take this away from the show today if you take nothing else.
The elites in this world think you're nothing but trash.
You're a problem, you're garbage.
Okay, we're going to talk in a second about how they're going to force this cost on you, because folks in Europe are paying for this, and you in the United States are paying for this, and the farther down the food chain you are, the more of your income you pay for this modern cult, this bizarre cult of climate change, or global warming, whatever you want, sustainability, whatever you want to call it.
But also in Ukraine, if they had listened to the war room on the very first day of this war, When you had Boris Johnson and Biden and all these guys, we've got to go in here.
Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead.
They can't even recruit people anymore.
They're trying to get out of there.
They're dead.
The blood is on the hands, the blood is on the hands of all these big-shot ex-NATO guys on the payroll, of all these think tanks, Stavridis, and all these guys up there dead wrong that lie to you every day about the progress of making war.
The blood of the Ukrainian people is, are dead.
They've destroyed that country.
It will never be what it was.
The population left, they ain't never coming back.
I want to go back to a second about Germany and about deindustrialization, and people have to wake up.
It's already started here.
Walk me through how it started, how we're doing it on the same path, and the sneaky way they're going to pay for it.
dave walsh
Well, you've got, Steve, in this country, all of the subsidies for wind, solar, battery storage are hidden.
They're inside the deficits.
So the population, the taxpayer, doesn't even see the costs of these because they're embedded inside the deficits we have.
Germany, to their credit, the Bundestag can't really do deficit spending.
It's spending nakedly is transferred to taxpayers.
They see the true cost of their energy and their tax bill subsidizing energy.
They get these costs, which is why they're in the streets talking about, let's say not revolting, talking about these costs and these programs.
Do they make sense when the net result of them is to transit industry out of Germany?
Which is the same thing here.
I've talked to leadership in Florida already about the fact of energy cost, electricity being so unreliable now in Florida that we can't invite in the new core steel, cement plants, more paper mills, The car plants are off the table, because we lack the electrical capacity to support that kind of industry.
steve bannon
But DeSantis is part of that, and that's because the elites, they don't want those type of things that create high value added good jobs for working class people.
Everything is just going to mess things up.
We want to be a tourist center, we want to be a finance center, we want the folks to move down, all the hedge funds to move Miami, we're going to have, it's all going to be finance, it's all going to be next generation Next generation.
We don't want to do the dirty work.
Oh my gosh, that'll be in Florida.
And that rips away your blue-collar jobs that you can build a family around.
dave walsh
Yeah, but you get the efficiency thing also, not to be praiseworthy of President Carter.
When he formed with Schlesinger, the DOE, the fundamental thesis was energy abundance.
Coal, gas, nuclear, some renewables, more of all the above, plus energy efficiency.
You only have efficient behavior when people see the true cost of energy.
And we know through the Texas Public Policy Foundation already, EVs, the subsidies are 80% of the, when you get OEM subsidies with consumer subsidies, you're talking 80%.
This is all hidden in deficit spending.
People can't behave rationally when they don't see the true cost of electricity coming through renewables and battery storage.
It's exorbitant.
It's exorbitant cost.
We had a big piece in the Wall Street yesterday, Murdoch's paper about the offshore wind in New England being cancelled project after project, now being cancelled by U.S.
investors, Avangrid, Spanish One, Public Service of Enterprise, Eversource and Dominion.
cancelling these offshore projects and seeking investors in them because they're ten times more costly than combined cycle plants.
Ratepayers can't afford that kind of electricity that only operates 42% of the time.
steve bannon
The power of Dave Walsh is Dave Walsh years ago on this show exposed what was happening in the de-industrialization in Germany on this cult idea and said, watch out, this is a forerunner because they're an adventure.
They're the most advanced, quite frankly, industrial power besides the United States.
They're going to de-industrialize and this is what you're going to see with the carrying these guys.
They're working in unison.
You're going to see it all come here to the United States.
dave walsh
Now, the latest carbon tax being proposed by the Dems with the support of four Republican senators in the U.S. is about putting an imposition of a tariff on top of any manufacturing that emanates CO2, which includes all steelmaking, aluminum making, pulp and paper, chemical plants, cement plants, anything that emits CO2 having a surcharge making those products more expensive for consumers and buyers of those products, meaning those manufacturing
of the above will transit to the global south over time.
steve bannon
I want to make sure, Ben Harnwell, I tell you we're going to get to Ben in the next block because I've got to tell a little story here.
You mentioned deficit spending.
So what he said, because we have these massive deficits, $7 trillion are spent, we have $2 trillion in deficits, they never read the entire bill.
One of the reasons we want single subject bills is that you get into, hey, look what you're giving Elon Musk, look at these subsidies, these are hundreds of millions of dollars, things crazy.
When the Germans came over here under Merkel, and they don't have it, they have a constitutional amendment that they have to have a balanced budget.
That's why Dave's saying they can't.
They come over here, and I'm tasked with sitting down and saying, hey, look, Rio, bro, you got to get up to the 2% in GDP, and you got to start paying, and you can't have women's health care, you can't have environmental, it's got to be weapons, training, personnel, all of it, interoperability.
The guy's first line of defense, he goes, oh, you know, you don't understand, Mr. Bannon.
We have a constitutional amendment.
We have to have a balanced budget.
I go, dude, at that time, we're $16 trillion in debt.
We're running, or $20 trillion in debt.
We're running a trillion dollar defense budget.
Almost a trillion dollar defense budget.
The United States is being buried by deficits, and you're using that argument?
I said, no offense, we wrote your Constitution after we bombed you back into the Stone Age.
So don't throw up your Constitution on me that you have to have a balanced budget.
We would like to have a balanced budget in the United States, but this is what they hid behind.
But the power of having that balanced budget and not having deficits, it's all got to be exposed.
The people, and this is why you're seeing, this is why you're seeing a revolt of the German people.
They're sitting there going, hang on for a second.
What's going on here?
We're de-industrializing.
We're taking our jobs away.
You're on the farmers.
They're not just going to go back to the agriculture area, the farming area.
They're going to go back to like Cro-Magnon man.
What's happening in Europe is pure insanity.
And it's coming here to the U.S.
This is why you're seeing the farmers and the truckers are gonna have a convoy to go to the southern border.
And I think we got Steve Stern's gonna give us a little hits up on that.
I got Ben Harnwell.
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My man is... Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to reschedule Jim Rickards, but I need you to go to Strategic Intelligence put out by Paradigm Press, Jim Rickards' monthly newsletter that gets you the geopolitics, the economics, and particularly some financial advice.
One thing about Rickards, he said the other day when he was here for the hour that you can't understand modern politics unless you understand the economics.
That's kind of the watchword of the war room.
We're teaching a working class and middle class audience capital markets.
Macroeconomics.
Because then, when you become enlightened, you go, hey, I understand what the con is, I understand what the scam is, because it's money and power.
It's money and power.
Yes, we're in a spiritual war, but it's manifesting itself in this dimension of reality in a power struggle over money and then power.
And if you don't believe me, folks, you wait till you see this bill they're about to drop on you.
The insult to your intelligence, up in your face, Up in your face!
If you're a citizen of this country...
And you at all adhere to what the revolutionary generation fought for and put it all on the line for it.
You wait to see Mitch McConnell.
I had a hedge fund guy who's kind of in the middle, but I know him quite well.
He called me and said, Steve, I've never really gotten, I think I told this the other day, a part of it, I've never really gotten why you have this, this virulent hatred for McConnell and what he stands for until I saw this thing by Rosemary Jenks and what they're talking about on this, on this border bill.
That is true hatred for this country.
It's sovereignty, her sovereignty and her citizens.
And on top of it, they're going to put forward a $60 billion bailout of the oligarchs over in Ukraine.
So just remember, tell me, how's your pension going?
Tell me, how's that six-week vacation going?
How's that full health care going?
As they're trying to take your Social Security and your Medicare.
Steve Stern, you got a big call today.
I want everybody to get on this.
Tell me what it's going to be about.
Where do they go to find out about it?
This is the precinct strategy.
These are the warriors, tip of the spear.
Where do they go, sir?
steve stern
Okay, so we have a big event today.
We're going to have a precinct strategy, election integrity.
Go to sstern1054gmail.com.
I will send you the link.
It is at 3.30 Eastern Time.
We will have on there today Dr. Frank.
He's one of the leading experts on election integrity.
We'll have Raj Dhirajami from Defend Florida.
He will tell you all the legislation going on in Florida.
And our big people, we're going to have John Cerebelli, who is the assistant To Christine Norton, who's the RNC.
Imagine we're getting the RNC on today.
They're going to try to get 60,000 more poll watchers and poll workers to make sure that President Trump wins the election this time.
steve bannon
All of a sudden, Ron is interested in all that.
Keep going.
steve stern
Right.
Then we're going to have Matt Hurdon, who's on the Leadership Institute, and he's going to tell you how to run for office.
Because I've interviewed a lot of people.
I've had stern American rumbles.
We're interviewing these candidates, and we've got to let them know how to go.
So, again, if you want to get to me... Huge.
steve bannon
Listen, you've got the talent.
Where do they go, Steve, to get to you and to get on this call?
I want everybody in this audience to man up on this call today.
We've got to focus on the general election.
We've got to focus on securing this election.
We've got to focus on massive turnout.
Where do they go, Stern?
steve stern
Stern1024gmail.com, and we have...
Mom's for America working with us with 500,000 people.
You can see that.
It got Steve Stern on there, Precinct Strategy.
Dan Schultz wrote the book, so let's get involved.
So we got a lot of posters up here.
Let's do it.
But S. Stern, 10 feet forward, Gmail.
Have a good one.
We'll be at Mar-a-Lago tomorrow.
steve bannon
Fabulous.
I want Stern to tell me tonight he had a massive crowd.
Steve, thank you so much.
Remember, Steve Stern is, what, 81, 82 years old?
Working every day, six, seven days a week for this.
You see these Patriots.
Stern, thank you so much.
The flagship company.
Fantastic.
A Patriot.
Real quickly, the story, you and I graduated the same year?
dave walsh
Yeah, it's a parable on inflation.
The ravages of inflation hit on all of us since that time.
When Steve and I were in these various institutions in western Virginia, in Charlottesville, we went down to the Loggins and Messina and Fleetwood Mac concert in 1975.
Four to the Newport News Coliseum for four dollars a ticket.
Four dollars a ticket.
The gas to get there was 26 cents a gallon in a Ford Pinto.
Four of us jammed in.
Four bucks a ticket.
Think about that.
Ravages of inflation since that time.
That'd be 40 times that today.
steve bannon
Four dollars and probably four bucks a thing.
This is the difference between Blacksburg and Charlottesville.
This is the difference between VPI and UVA.
Logins in Messina and Fleetwood Mac.
We went to the all-day concert at RFK Stadium right down the street.
The New Riders of the Purple Sage, the Allman Brothers, and the Grateful Dead.
At the end they all played together for like five hours.
It was insanity.
I'm sure yours was insanity, too, and a difficult ride home.
dave walsh
I thought you were going to say you guys were studying harder there.
steve bannon
No, no.
Thank you for coming in.
The audience loves it.
And every time you're in town, I mean, you've done such... Your understanding of energy and how it drives modern industrial society is just incredible.
And folks, it's coming here.
That's why we always point to Germany.
What's happening in Europe and the Netherlands, it's already here.
It's not coming here.
dave walsh
The abundance of energy and the cost of it is fundamental to any developed economy.
The one in Germany, Austria, France, England, was, unfortunately, formerly, here, fundamentally important.
The Chinese are accelerating on their energy costs being low and the abundance of it being high.
Because they understand.
They understand.
We're not.
steve bannon
That's where the County of the Deals of the Moon is, the County of the Deals of Saudi.
Ben, we've got to bounce.
I want everybody to get to your, because your analysis, you'll be back on tomorrow with us, because we're going to go to the revolt.
Listen, folks.
Brexit was the forerunner for the Trump revolution in November 16.
That happened in June of 16.
We called it.
We had Breitbart London.
I had a team over there.
Rahim is actually working on Brexit.
He's taken a leave of absence for a while.
That's what's going to happen in the European parliamentary election this June is going to be the forerunner for our massive win in November.
Ben, where do people get you?
You're going to be back tomorrow.
Until then, where do they go on your social media to see all your analysis you put up all the time?
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
It's simply on Getter under my profile, Harnwell, at Harnwell on Getter.
I'll close with this, Steve.
You mentioned Admiral Stavridis just a few moments or so ago.
You'll be pleased to hear that he's being considered by, at least by the New York Times, to stand under the No Labels ticket for Vice President.
Of your republic.
He said he'll do it to serve, but only if the whole nation wants him, and not only the no labels thing.
Also, the top of the ticket would be Governor Gretchen Whitmer, right?
And this is, for the New York Times, the dream is her domestic policy coupled with his foreign policy expertise, Steve.
So there you go.
steve bannon
Yeah.
He ought to wash the blood, he ought to wash the blood of the Ukraine, the innocent Ukrainian people.
Mershimer in Chicago told us we're going to lead those people, the Western elite's going to lead those people, that nation down the primrose path to their own destruction, and then be done with them.
And that is 1,000% what's happened.
The blood of the Ukrainian people won't wash off Stavridis and that crowded MSNBC and the NATO types.
The blood is on their hands.
Okay, Charlie Kirk, two hours of populist nationalism next.
Jack Pasova, we're back here at five to seven.
Do not miss it.
I will commit to you, as sure as the turning of the earth, we're going to be on fire this afternoon.
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