Jan. 23, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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For a decision, the Supreme Court says it will allow Border Patrol agents to remove razor wire installed by the state of Texas at the U.S.-Mexico border. | |
| The emergency request, filed by the Biden administration, argued that Texas was preventing Border Patrol from carrying out their duties. | ||
| Again, breaking news, and Border Patrol will be allowed to cut down that razor wire, as you see right there. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Okay, Monday, 22 January, Year of Our Lord 2024. | ||
| Just when you were getting tired of winning, This has to happen, come and remember. | ||
| It's a multi-front, it's a 30-front war. | ||
| The Supreme Court, 5-4, to assist the illegitimate Biden regime in their invasion of the United States. | ||
| I am not making that up, folks. | ||
| Amy Comey Barrett with Roberts, the Bush amnesty guy. | ||
| Uh, in with the bad guys in a 5-4 decision. | ||
| I've got Jeff Clark. | ||
| As soon as we get him up by phone, I'll go to Jeff. | ||
| We'll start with Mike Davis, who's here for a raft of issues this afternoon. | ||
| Also, Tiffany Justice is going to join us on the lead story in Daily Mail this afternoon. | ||
| It's her beatdown of our favorite Joanne Reed, uh, about, uh, about the, uh, LGBTQ groomer pornography fed to little children in the country. | ||
| We'll get to that in a second. | ||
| I want to start with Mike Davis. | ||
| Mike, help me make sense of this, brother. | ||
| How did a conservative court, the Thomas Court, as I think we call it, vote 5-4 to allow the federal government to go in and cut wire that protects our nation and the great state of Texas from an invasion? | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| Well, I think that it's because the Biden administration managed to pick off two of our weaker sisters in the conservative bloc, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Amy Coney Barrett. | ||
| Amy Coney Barrett, just two years ago, Put out a statement how the emergency docket, the Democrats call the shadow docket, should be used very sparingly. | ||
| So it's truly a head-scratcher that Justice Amy Coney Barrett joins the three liberals and then the Chief Justice in this decision. | ||
| But really, this is a pyrrhic victory for President Biden. | ||
| At the Supreme Court, he basically strong-armed five Supreme Court justices to go along with his invasion of the southern border. | ||
| But it's going to be President Joe Biden and his Democrats running on November 5th, 2024, who are going to pay the price from cutting open razor wire and letting in illegal, unvetted, unvettable fighting-age men from terrorist hellholes, letting in fentanyl, letting these Democrat cities, these third-world Democrat hellholes like New York and Washington, D.C. | ||
| and Denver, Colorado and elsewhere get overrun by illegal economic migrants. | ||
| I don't think that the Democrats black voters their base that votes 95% Democrat likes it so much that their social services are being taken away. | ||
| Their schools are being closed so they can let in illegal economic migrants from Venezuela overrun their hospitals and schools and social services. | ||
| So the Democrats won a victory today in the shadow docket of the Supreme Court, but they're going to pay the price on November 5th 2024. | ||
| Marco Rubio put out a tweet where he said, hey, how can we be looking at a Senate bill next week pushed by Schumer and Biden that talks about border security when they just went to the Supreme Court and put forward a proposal that's anti-border security? | ||
| Can you answer that one for me, Mike? | ||
| Can you help Senator Rubio out? | ||
| What's so confusing about this to me, Steve, is look, we've had these immigration laws on the books for a long time and President Trump was able to get our border secured and to reverse the flow of illegal economic migrants, these unvetted and unvettable migrants from third world Marxist hellholes who can bring grave danger to the United States along with fentanyl that's poisoning and killing Americans. | ||
| Trump was able to get it done under existing law, so why the hell do we need to change laws to secure the border? | ||
| We don't. | ||
| And the Republicans in the Senate need to stop playing this game. | ||
| They need to stop playing this globalist game where we're gonna let in tens of millions of people over the course of decades and then give them amnesty and give them citizenship and change who we are as Americans. | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| I don't want to bring up an unpleasant topic, but you've always been someone who calls balls and strikes the way you see it. | ||
| You don't, you know, fudge it for the Trump megaforces, or you call them as you see them. | ||
| And you were the first one to bring up this situation during Dobbs when the thing got leaked, and you know the court very well, so you were able to break it down for us. | ||
| Then all the protests at the home and, you know, the assassination attempt on Kavanaugh, and the lack of the U.S. | ||
| Marshals and even the court marshals, no protection, as kind of intimidation, and the DOJ allowing that. | ||
| Do you think that that has rattled any of the judges? | ||
| And correct me if I'm wrong, this kind of came out of right field. | ||
| I don't think anybody had thought that any of the Trump appointees or any of the conservative justices would ever support this against the state, particularly on something this dire. | ||
| Do you think some of the justices are rattled? | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| Justice Amy Coney Barrett, who has young kids, I think may be rattled by the protest outside of her home. | ||
| But that's no excuse. | ||
| Like, her job is to follow the Constitution. | ||
| It is no excuse that you're getting rattled in your home. | ||
| And what needs to happen is the Trump 47 Justice Department needs to indict these people, right, for these illegal protests, these intimidation campaigns outside of the Supreme Court justices' homes. You do not have a First Amendment right to protest outside of anyone's home, right? There are time, place, and manner restrictions on your First Amendment rights, and you do not have a First Amendment right to protest outside of someone else's home, period. It is against federal law. | ||
| It is obstruction of justice to protest outside of a Supreme Court justice's home, any federal judge's home, especially while cases are pending. | ||
| That is obstruction of justice. | ||
| And the Democrats did this because they thought it would have their intended effect on Dobbs, but it did in the sense that it's rattled these justices and they're worried that they're going to be threatened and intimidated outside of their homes again. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| In the Trump 47 Justice Department, there needs to be consequences for this so this never happens again. | ||
| Can you hang on for one second? | ||
| There's more I want to get into on Jack Smith, on Fannie Willis, on all of it. | ||
| Just hang on for one second, Mike. | ||
| I've got the two billets here, you know, the Attorney General and White House Counsel with Jeff Clark and Mike Davis. | ||
| They'll figure out who's who after we win in November. | ||
| I want to go to Jeff Clark by phone. | ||
| Well, Steve, thanks for having me. | ||
| Jeff, make this make sense to me on this decision by the Supreme Court, 5-4 with Amy Coney Barrett and Roberts coming in with the globalists. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
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Well, Steve, thanks for having me. | |
| I think that the majority is fundamentally misconceiving the case. | ||
| They're concerned about this principle of federal law called preemption, that federal statutes block out state laws that are contrary to those federal statutes. | ||
| So the way they see this, there are immigration authority statutes that say that they can inspect areas within 25 miles of the border, they can go onto property, they can arrest people, right? | ||
| Like, that's really what they're doing. | ||
| They're not doing that. | ||
| They're not really enforcing federal law. | ||
| But the fiction is that they are enforcing federal law. | ||
| And the razor wire at the border that Texas has put up is interfering with that federal function, and it's no different than one of the oldest cases from the Supreme Court that's probably one that, you know, most students or at least most students in your day and my day would have studied even in high school, which is the idea that the power to tax is the power to destroy, right? | ||
| So Maryland couldn't tax the National Bank. | ||
| that interfered with federal purposes. | ||
| So on the same logic, they're saying that the federal immigration laws are being interfered with by Texas. | ||
| The problem with that, and that's why I say that this is being ill-conceived by the majority and unfortunately by Amy Coney Barrett, is that the state of Texas has a right to resist invasion and a right to repel invasion. | ||
| And the federal government has a duty to stop those invasions. | ||
| We're facing a border invasion that is a constitutional power that the states have that is superior to federal immigration laws. | ||
| So it's it shouldn't be a situation where federal immigration law is preempting state law trying to, you know, protect us and protect that the members of, you know, the residents of that state from evasion. | ||
| It should be a situation where Texas has a superior constitutional power. | ||
| And these immigration laws are being interpreted in a way I don't think they are really written to say this, but they're being interpreted away. | ||
| to essentially override a key constitutional provision, a power that Texas, Arizona, you know, and other border states have. | ||
| And it is the ultimate in irony to pretend as if the Biden administration is trying to enforce the border protections, and that's why they have to be able to take down Texas's border protections. | ||
| It's really, it's like a 1984 world. | ||
| It's backwards. | ||
| And hopefully when it's fully briefed, Amy Coney Barrett will come to see that the Fifth Circuit was right and that the federal government shouldn't be able to take this razor wire down. | ||
| But at the moment, the status quo is that the razor wire injunction has been lifted. | ||
| So when you say fully briefed, can you just walk us through what you believe the process is now? | ||
| So, you know, look, this is a case that some would write is in the in the shadow docket because it's a fight about, you know, whether a preliminary injunction stays in place or not. | ||
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So it's an order by Texas, you know, has a narrow exception that, you know, the federal border agents could get through the razor wire if they're trying to, like, save someone's life who's in imminent danger. | |
| But otherwise, they basically should respect the border wire because it's Texas protecting itself. | ||
| And what do you think that will take place? | ||
| So, you know, eventually the case will go on the merits, they'll be briefing about that, and we'll see whether this preliminary determination holds up as a final judgment at the end of the day. | ||
| And when do you think that will take place? | ||
| What's your about the timing of all this? | ||
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Well, I mean, I hope within the next few months. | |
| I know that you have Mike on. | ||
| I was not able to, you know, to pull down the full docket. | ||
| I was just able to look at the brief that Elizabeth Preligar, the Solicitor General, filed. | ||
| And so, you know, I think they'll probably treat this as urgent, but I don't have a time estimate for you as I sit here. | ||
| Jeff, thank you so much. | ||
| I know you had to jump away for today from things you're doing. | ||
| I look forward to get you back on maybe tomorrow or the next day, drill down. | ||
| That's kind of a shocker to everybody. | ||
| Jeff Clark, how do people get you on social media to follow your analysis of this and many other things you're working on? | ||
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Sure. | |
| So I'm at JeffClarkUS on Getter and X and at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social and the center where we have two papers up about the border invasion and the constitutional provisions that are involved in that is americarenewing.com, Steve. | ||
| Okay, thank you so much. | ||
| Great work, Russ Vogt, the entire team over there. | ||
| Mike Davis, I would like to hold you for a few minutes on the other side. | ||
| We got Fannie Willis to talk about. | ||
| I got some questions on Jack Smith. | ||
| Also, I want you to give a quick tutorial when we return on the shadow docket. | ||
| That had always been something that the left has said that the right was using unfairly to get cases they wanted into the Supreme Court that wouldn't actually go. | ||
| So I want to spend a minute on that when we get back. | ||
| I want to make sure we've got a lot going on. | ||
| Our own Moms4Liberty, Tiffany Justice, is going to be here after her classic beatdown of Joy Ann Reid on Friday. | ||
| It was a classic lead story in the Daily Mail. | ||
| Also, a lot going on about the border, a lot going on about this new amnesty bill coming through. | ||
| We're getting tons of scoops on that. | ||
| We're going to have Rosemary Jinks and her team, or part of Rosemary Jinks' team, on here to discuss all that. | ||
| We've got a lot going on. | ||
| Make sure you go to birchgold.com. | ||
| Axios today finally cried uncle, talked about the crisis of... wait for it... | ||
| Too much debt, too big of deficits, too much money printing, too much interest on the debt. | ||
| They're starting to realize, they're the corporatist tip sheet in town and they realize we've got a crisis of monumental proportion. | ||
| Go to birchgold.com slash Bannon right now and find out why. | ||
| body. | ||
| Get our audience up to speed. | ||
| The shadow docket, why they kept whining for years it was a right-wing way to get around certain things to the court. | ||
| About the shadow docket until President Trump transformed the 5-4 left of center court to the 5-4 Clarence Thomas court. | ||
| And then the Supreme Court started issuing orders lifting bogus injunctions by liberal judges that were placed on the Trump administration. | ||
| Particularly when it came to immigration or whatever the hot button issue was. | ||
| You had these lower court left-wing judges blocking the Trump administration from doing what he was allowed to do under the Constitution. | ||
| So the Trump administration would seek an emergency order from the Supreme Court. | ||
| The Supreme Court would grant it. | ||
| So the Democrats called this the emergency docket, the shadow docket. | ||
| to try to give it a bad name so when Trump tried to go back to the docket, you could scare off some of the weaker Supreme Court justices like Justice Amy Coney Barrett, and it actually worked. | ||
| And so then here we are with Biden. | ||
| Biden has these conservative judges on the Fifth Circuit saying that Texas can protect its state park from an invasion from Mexico. | ||
| And the Biden administration went to the Supreme Court on the emergency docket on the the shadow docket and for some reason, Justice Amy Coney Barrett changed her tune. | ||
| She likes the shadow docket all of a sudden, and she went along with the Democrats on the Supreme Court and the Chief Justice, and they granted shadow docket relief, emergency relief, which is truly a head-scratcher, because as Jeff Clark said, | ||
| There's not a preemption issue here, and even if there is a preemption issue between an invasion, repelling an invasion that Texas is doing versus the federal government enforcing immigration laws, it seems like if there's field preemption here, the Biden administration, the federal government has abandoned the field of enforcing our immigration laws because | ||
| Not only is the Biden administration not enforcing our immigration laws, they are running to the Supreme Court to cut open razor wire so they can flood our country with illegal economic migrants, unvetted terrorists, and fentanyl. | ||
| Congressman Clay Higgins from Louisiana just sent out a tweet. | ||
| It said, it proposed, he said, first off media, and this is a question to Higgins. | ||
| Congressman Higgins, the Supreme Court just ruled in favor of the Biden administration over the state of Texas, saying that the federal government can remove physical barriers at the border put in place by Texas. | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Congressman Higgins reply my thoughts are that the feds are staging a civil war in Texas Should stand their ground pretty heated words, but this one's going to get a lot of controversy Mike one last thing Just in going through with this thing is in the process is this eventually it's I guess it's that it appeals Will it make his way the Supreme Court we have some sort of ruling on this by June I? | ||
| That's a very good question. | ||
| It seems like the Supreme Court just ruled on the shadow docket without the benefit of briefing, without the benefit of oral arguments. | ||
| And I think that you just got five justices to rule by order on the shadow docket with no explanation whatsoever. | ||
| So this may not get resolved by the Supreme Court on the merits. | ||
| It may just have gotten resolved through the shadow docket. | ||
| Wow, unbelievable. | ||
| Okay, more on that later. | ||
| Mike, bad day in River City for our guests in Railroad City for Fannie Willis. | ||
| Am I correct in saying that? | ||
| Yeah, it's a very bad day down in Georgia, Fulton County, Georgia, for Fannie Willis because the judge and Fannie Willis' alleged boyfriend slash special prosecutor's case said that she's going to have to turn over evidence, including her testimony and the divorce proceedings. | ||
| And here's the bigger problem, as Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene outlined in her criminal referral to Georgia Governor Camp and Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr. | ||
| Fannie Willis may have violated several Georgia criminal statutes by illegally hiring her boyfriend, her secret boyfriend, allegedly, and then paying him nearly $700,000 in Fulton County funds, including from COVID funds, to prosecute President Trump and 18 co-defendants. | ||
| And I don't know how Fannie Willis can stay on this case She should probably go to prison if she came into this illegal kickback scheme with her boyfriend Where she's taken these lavish trips around the world. | ||
| They have the credit card statements where this boyfriend alleged boyfriend paid for her for her airline tickets with her name on the credit card statement. | ||
| So she can't it's going to be very interesting how she tries to run away from that. | ||
| I don't think going into any church on Sunday is going to save her from her credit card statements that that are very clear but bigger the bigger issue is that shows that Fannie Willis hired this special prosecutor and she has a financial interest And this prosecution against President Trump and 18 co-defendants and her financial interest is paying her boyfriend allegedly $700,000 and taking these kickbacks. | ||
| And so if this is true, which it appears to be true, she's going to have to get kicked on this, kicked off this case. | ||
| This case is going to probably have to get dismissed because it was tarnished, structurally tarnished From day one, we have this boyfriend illegally hiring her boyfriend. | ||
| They have a financial interest in this case, and then they're paying, she's paying her boyfriend to collude with the Biden White House, including with the Biden White House counsel before Fannie Willis brought these bogus RICO charges. | ||
| By her unqualified boyfriend against President Trump and 18 co-defendants. | ||
| The bottom line is that Brian Kemp, the Governor of Georgia, and Chris Carr, the Attorney General, need to do their damn jobs and order a criminal probe here. | ||
| You can go to a3paction.com and call Brian Kemp's office Call Chris Carr's office, light them up, and make them order a criminal probe here. | ||
| They can't run and hide from this. | ||
| I know they're cowards, but they can't run and hide from this one. | ||
| Give me that again. | ||
| This is your new action page over at Article 3. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| What do they look, download? | ||
| You've got letters, emails, all that laid out from phone numbers. | ||
| Tell me where they go again. | ||
| You can go to article3project.org and go to the action link or go to a3paction.com. | ||
| Click on that link. | ||
| Find that there are three action items on there. | ||
| Go to the one with Fannie Willis. | ||
| It will help, it will explain the background, it will allow you to click a button and do patch-through calls to both Governor Brian Kemp's office, the one on the left, and then you can also do patch-through calls to Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr's office. | ||
| It will help you if you want to do emails, you can light them up on social media. | ||
| We need conservatives to put pressure on these two cowards in Georgia, Brian Kemp and Chris Carr and have them do their damn jobs under Georgia statutes and open a criminal probe on Fannie Willis and her secret alleged boyfriend. | ||
| Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene is the one who did this criminal referral and Kemp and Carr can't hide from this one. | ||
| By the way, Mike, you have from day one when they went down to Mar-a-Lago, you said they're They're going to come at him with everything, and it's all going to collapse at the end. | ||
| Mike Davis, what's your social media? | ||
| How do they follow you? | ||
| You get a little heated. | ||
| You're good on Getter. | ||
| You're putting out good stuff on Twitter every now and again. | ||
| You'll go a little crazy, but that's great. | ||
| That's Mike Davis. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Yeah, Irish Fighting. | ||
| It's at MRDDMIA, M-R-D-D-M-I-A, and then also at Article 3 Project on Getter Twitter Truth. | ||
| And thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Thanks for taking the time away. | ||
| You see Mike Davis everywhere now, you know, because the smartest guy around, tough and a fighter. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| We got Tiffany Justice. | ||
| I'm going to break this down in two pieces. | ||
| Let's play the first part right now. | ||
| May take us to break. | ||
| We'll be with Tiffany right after. | ||
| You got to see this. | ||
| Let's hit it. | ||
| Great to meet you. | ||
| So I want to play a clip. | ||
| And this is an interview that you gave to Steve Bannon's War Room in 2022, March of 2022. | ||
| Take a listen. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Walk us through exactly what you're trying to accomplish in this definition. | ||
| It's a new concept. | ||
| I want to make sure we have the nomenclature. | ||
| What are parental rights? | ||
| Parental rights are rights that every parent has and the government does not give them to you and they cannot take them away. | ||
| Every parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children, their medical care, that includes mental health by the way, their education, and their values education, their morals, their religious and character training. | ||
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All of these things lie within the responsibility of the parent. | |
| Now I want to just make sure, do you still stand by those statements? | ||
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Oh, absolutely. | |
| Okay. | ||
| So then I guess the question becomes, which parents, right? | ||
| Do African-American parents have parental rights? | ||
| Yes, a God-given right to direct the upbringing of your children. | ||
| Do LGBTQ parents and parents of LGBTQ kids, do they have parental rights? | ||
| Every parent, Joy. | ||
| Every parent means every parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children. | ||
| And liberal parents? | ||
| Do liberal parents have those rights as well? | ||
| All parents. | ||
| Uh, one is that there was some talk about George M. Johnson, who wrote, uh... I will note that Ms. | ||
| Justice did not know his name. | ||
| She knew all sorts of things about... She liked to say the word Delta and said that a lot. | ||
| Um, but the fact is, George M. Johnson, uh, this is a book about George M. Johnson. | ||
| Some of these books are autobiographical, some of them are not. | ||
| Some of the key books that have been banned, Laurie Halse Anderson's Speak. | ||
| Perks of Being a Wallflower by Stephen Jabosky. | ||
| They have similar themes in them. | ||
| Some of them are sexual, some of them are not. | ||
| But they are experiential. | ||
| They're real books. | ||
| And kids see themselves in these books, number one. | ||
| And that does save lives. | ||
| So when your guest says, when a child has been raped, we should do a lot better than a book, sometimes the book is the lifesaver, number one. | ||
| Number two, how about all those kids who haven't been raped? | ||
| How about those of us who don't grow up with these experiences in black households, in poor households, in Hispanic households, in gay relationships? | ||
| These are the way in which we tell people's stories, right? | ||
| You learn other people's stories. | ||
| We started the book club because of 1619 Project. | ||
| Because people just objected to this idea that this new date that had been introduced by Nicole Hannah-Jones somehow obscured or blanked out what they thought their history was. | ||
| To most thinking humans, it's just another data point. | ||
| So this idea that these books are just pushed back because people don't want this idea of learning other people's stories to be out there. | ||
| It's disingenuous to call it all about sex. | ||
| Kids know all about sex. | ||
| Kids have always known all about sex. | ||
| In fact, if there's anything to do, it's do a better job ensuring that kids get proper Sex education, because the correlation is direct. | ||
| If kids get proper sex education, they have safer sex lives, they don't get pregnant as early, things like that happen. | ||
| So I think this was I'm grateful you had the conversation. | ||
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Yeah, but the folks who are banning books are misguided 13 people get to decide what books tens of thousands of children get to read Well, I'm thinking it's probably because those 13 people saw what some of the content was in the books. | |
| I mean, explicit, graphic, sexual content. | ||
| And I'm happy to talk about some of that content if you'd like to. | ||
| Well, this is the question again. | ||
| The books that are being banned. | ||
| I want to give you just a moment. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| No, Joy, but I want to be clear. | ||
| No one's banning books. | ||
| Write the book. | ||
| Print the book. | ||
| Publish the book. | ||
| Put the book in the public library. | ||
| Sell the book, right? | ||
| We're talking about a public school library. | ||
| Children don't have unfettered access to the internet at school. | ||
| I did a FOIA records request and I wanted to see what kinds of internet sites are banned in schools if we're going to talk about banning, right? | ||
| And the subject matter in the books that moms are concerned about are the same things that kids don't have access to on the Internet. | ||
| So it just feels very hypocritical, right? | ||
| Why is no one out there protesting for, you know, free the Internet in schools? | ||
| Let me give you counties like Broward, counties like Clay, counties like Escambia. | ||
| Moms for Liberty activists are using BookLooks.com, and it's essentially a Cliff Notes for books. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So you go through without even having to read the book. | ||
| I'm going to just hold it up so our audience can see what it looks like. | ||
| This is the one for All Boys Aren't Blue, which is one of the books Moms4Liberty has put together. | ||
| Everyone should go and see the content in this book. | ||
| That's such a good idea. | ||
| And so what happens is, you can do keyword searches and find certain keywords. | ||
| Like rape? | ||
| You can find, yeah. | ||
| Or anal rape or dildo. | ||
| You can find all sorts of keywords. | ||
| Let me finish my question, then you can answer. | ||
| I'm going to give you time to answer, but I've got to ask you first. | ||
| So what you find is, the key word that you find, the N word, anything, words like you just used, you'll get out-of-context passages from the book, and then based on that, Moms for Liberty members are going to places like Broward County School Board meetings, reading out-of-context passages from these books, and then demanding that the school board remove them. | ||
| So what's the question? | ||
| The question I'm asking is, what is the expertise that you have, and other Moms for Liberty advocates have, to decide that a book, an award-winning book like All Boys Aren't Blue, isn't appropriate for students to read? | ||
| What is your expertise? | ||
| What a tragic story of a young man who's annually raped by his adult family member. | ||
| So you have incest, rape, pedophilia. | ||
| Joy, you said you'd let me answer, so I'm going to answer for you. | ||
| In what context is a strap-on dildo acceptable for public school? | ||
| Just let me, I mean that's my question to you. | ||
| Tell me what the context around the strap-on dildo or the rape of a minor child by a teacher. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We're talking about public school. | ||
| One moment. | ||
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You know, implementing policy as much as I am that they're not adequately prepared or And that they're ideological. | |
| I think the only issue I have is that they're firmly ideological. | ||
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Because it's about what they want you to read. | |
| And I think you guys talked about it. | ||
| It wasn't just about sex. | ||
| It's about, do you want to learn history? | ||
| Do you want to use African American history? | ||
| Do you want to learn about the Holocaust? | ||
| They don't want certain things in their kids' lives. | ||
| But they don't want it to enter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And the point is, is that it's supposed to be there. | |
| You want to try and shelter your kid all you want, opt out or homeschool. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But do not do this. | ||
| Well, you can also just choose to not have your kid take the book out. | ||
| Most librarians have master's degrees, first of all. | ||
| They're very sophisticated at this. | ||
| And librarians themselves have said to me about this, please don't give me this power. | ||
| Do not give... I am the state, for all intents and purposes. | ||
| Your school library and your public library is the state. | ||
| And the school is the state. | ||
| Do not give the state the power. | ||
| Let's just take a very ideologically conservative view of this thing, which most of these book banners are. | ||
| The state doesn't get to decide what your child reads. | ||
| You get to decide what your child reads. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| When you ban books, you have given the state the right to decide what your child reads. | ||
| That's dangerous. | ||
| They did not have one argument. | ||
| If you want your child to read it, then buy them the book. | ||
| It shouldn't be in school libraries. | ||
| It shouldn't be in a public library. | ||
| Tiffany Justice, you were amazing. | ||
| Walk me through the entire thing, ma'am. | ||
| Hi, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| So I said that I wanted to debate Randy Weingarten, the head of the American Federation of Teachers. | ||
| And so I put out a call to Randy and I said, will you debate me? | ||
| And I said, I'll even do it on your home turf of MSNBC. | ||
| And so we then had MSNBC reach out to us and say, well, we'll moderate the debate. | ||
| If Randy's willing to do it and Joy was willing to actually have the debate on her show. | ||
| And I was excited about that. | ||
| And we were doing a big town hall in New York City on Thursday night that I'd love to tell you about where we discussed the state of the city, which is abysmal as when it comes to kids and reading. | ||
| But I went on Joy's show anyway to have an honest conversation about the books. | ||
| And, you know, she had asked me to come on a couple of times before, but she wanted to tape and I wanted to go on live. | ||
| Why wasn't anybody there? | ||
| Why did it have to be the host and the panel? | ||
| Why did they have to debate you? | ||
| Why won't anybody associated with the Teachers Union come on and actually, or even the Librarian Association, and debate you, take you on? | ||
| Because the arguments are indefensible. | ||
| Some of the arguments that Joy made at one point during the interview, she says that, what about the children that will be seen by this book? | ||
| And I told her that if there was a child that was feeling seen by this book, that means that they have been a victim of a predator. | ||
| In fact, if a child has been traumatized in some way, there are many people who say that it is re-traumatizing for the child to read about that type of experience. | ||
| And so this idea that we're going to put a book in a library that a child that has suffered sexual trauma is going to happen upon, And it's somehow going to save their life is a baloney argument. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| And if we have such instances of children being raped by adults, my goodness, we are having the wrong conversation in America. | ||
| We shouldn't be talking about books. | ||
| We should be talking about these sick adults who are preying on children. | ||
| The Daily Mail, which is one of the most sophisticated sites, the largest in the world, and one of the biggest newspapers, off the biggest newspaper, and someone, because they cover Hollywood so much, it's tough to shock them. | ||
| They were shocked. | ||
| They made this, the lead story this afternoon, which tells you it's one of the most important stories in the world. | ||
| And they were absolutely, you could tell the way it was written, the headline, the sub-headline, they were shocked. | ||
| They were shocked at Joanne Reed's defense. | ||
| What say you, ma'am? | ||
| She asked me what expertise we have to be able to judge whether or not this book is appropriate. | ||
| And I said, I don't have to be an expert to know that dildos don't belong in public school. | ||
| I mean, this is the most common sense argument ever. | ||
| I'm not surprised that so many people are like, yeah, of course, because this is just crazy. | ||
| But it's so important. | ||
| That we are having these conversations because I don't think a lot of people in the United States know that there are people like Joy Reid who are thinking about these issues in this way, or Ali Velshi saying, oh, kids know all about sex. | ||
| Well, should we sell marijuana in school too because kids have access to marijuana outside of school? | ||
| I mean, it's just ridiculous. | ||
| This, this also, this intersectionality, Steve, This thing that they're doing about black families or Hispanic families and then kids who are experiencing sexual trauma and lumping them in together is the most offensive and insulting thing I have ever heard to minority families. | ||
| And I think America sees that, too. | ||
| Joy Pullman did an article in The Federalist where she really rips that argument apart. | ||
| And, you know, what I tried to bring Joy back to was the most important point, why I was there in New York City to begin with, because our education system is failing. | ||
| Americans need to understand that less than a third of kids in the United States of America are reading on grade level. | ||
| In New York City, only a quarter of kids are reading on grade level in fourth grade. | ||
| Only 11% of black students are reading on grade level in fourth grade. | ||
| We spend $40,000 a year in New York City public schools, 25 kids in a class, it's a million dollars. | ||
| And what is happening? | ||
| Why aren't these kids learning how to read? | ||
| And so that was, you know, the ultimate goal of why I would go on Joy Read Show is to, you know, blast the book banning myth. | ||
| It's such nonsense. | ||
| But then to also bring attention to the conversation that we should all be having together in America about the fact that our children deserve a bright future and being literate is a big part of that. | ||
| Just give us a minute so our audience gets the nomenclature. | ||
| Intersectionality. | ||
| What does that mean and what does the left try to do with it? | ||
| They just try to lump everybody together so that it's just this oppressor oppressed class. | ||
| And so, you know, it's black people, Hispanic people, minorities, LGBTQ, and they just try to throw everybody together. | ||
| But that's so offensive. | ||
| We're talking about a child who has been the victim of a sexual assault by a family member. | ||
| As I said, incest, pedophilia, rape. | ||
| This book was found in an elementary school library. | ||
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That is craziness in Pennsylvania. | |
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | ||
| No, go ahead, continue. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Yeah, no, so it's just this way of trying to lump people together into identity groups, into this idea of groupthink, and we know this is baloney. | ||
| Gays Against Groomers, Jamie Michelle, this is a group of gay people across America that are saying stop sexualizing kids and stop doing it under the auspices of the pride flag. | ||
| Stop pretending like this is something that gay people want. | ||
| The problem with woke and with queer theory in general is there is no limiting principle. | ||
| And so they can't come out against anything because the whole point is the fact that there is no end to this. | ||
| And that's what's so incredibly concerning about what we're seeing happening in the schools with the drag queen story hour and all of these things. | ||
| There's an effort to destabilize the child. | ||
| And then, on top of that, the children are not being given practicable skills to read, write, and do math. | ||
| And so, it's just this perfect storm of creating little citizens that think they're global citizens that hate America and that also can't read or write or support themselves. | ||
| So, they'll have to be reliant on the government. | ||
| And, you know, I've said before on your show, it's the building of the Red Guard in America. | ||
| The sexualization plays into that, destabilization. | ||
| And parents have had enough. | ||
| Just absolutely enough of it. | ||
| And so, this idea of 13 people making decisions, the decisions about these books are being made at the local school board level, and that's exactly what should be happening. | ||
| And so, more conversations about what books should be in libraries, more conversations about, you know, how many kids are reading in this district, how are we teaching reading, and how can we improve together is what needs to happen. | ||
| You know, we'd like to, Governor DeSantis, Quite a bit as governor. | ||
| We weren't enthusiastic about his presidential run, but you can tell the left's doing something right now. | ||
| All the articles are blaming DeSantis' failed campaign that he just focused on woke. | ||
| He just focused on the cultural issues. | ||
| And a bunch of articles have come out in the last couple hours saying, you know, DeSantis' campaign failed because that's what it was all about, which is not true, obviously. | ||
| And they said Moms of Liberty is also losing momentum and they're losing school boards. | ||
| They're making the case that this fight for these cultural issues, the fight for these social issues, the fight for the American family, the nuclear family and our children is losing momentum. | ||
| What say you, ma'am? | ||
| It's not it. | ||
| We don't have a choice. | ||
| I mean, we're in the middle of a cultural revolution in this country, and one of the battlegrounds is our school system. | ||
| And so we have to go and fight there, because they want our kids. | ||
| And if they grab the kids, then they have the next generation. | ||
| If they have the next generation, it doesn't matter what we do at the border, because our own kids are turned against us in this country. | ||
| And so, you know, this idea of there being a culture war, there's a revolution has been foisted upon us. | ||
| We need to fight where the battles are. | ||
| One is in the court system. | ||
| One is in the schools. | ||
| And that's what Moms for Liberty is doing. | ||
| So we're building a grassroots army of moms, dads, concerned community members that are coming together. | ||
| They're getting educated on these issues that are learning to how to have conversations and how to be effective advocates together to fight back against this nonsense because 90% of America is with us. | ||
| 90% of America does not want the sexualization of our children in schools. | ||
| They do not believe that dildos belong in schools. | ||
| Or discussions about sex. | ||
| And to Velshi's point about sex education, nobody is fighting against having conversations about reproductive biology. | ||
| I just don't think my kids need to learn about how to use sex toys in school, right? | ||
| Tiffany, where do people go to get updated on Moms4Liberty and what is your social media? | ||
| And where can they find the entire interview? | ||
| Yeah, I first want to say thank you to Joy Reid, just to be clear, Steve, because it was good she had me on, right? | ||
| And I tried to be, you know, nice and have a good conversation with her. | ||
| So thank you to Joy Reid for having me on. | ||
| You can go to momsforliberty.org and check out if we have a chapter in your county. | ||
| If we don't, click to start one, please. | ||
| We are doing a great job. | ||
| Our moms and dads are such amazing patriots. | ||
| you know, join us in this fight for the future of our country. | ||
| You don't have to just have a kid in school to want to fight for the future of kids in America. | ||
| And you can follow us on social media. The full clip is posted on our Twitter page. It's up on Runbow. It's up on YouTube. So check out Moms4Liberty. And as always, Steve, thank you for, you know, standing behind Moms4Liberty for a long time. | ||
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When she played that clip, I just have to tell you, when she played that clip of us at the beginning of it and she set it up, I was like, ooh, which one is she gonna play? | |
| And then she played that clip, and man, I was like, this is gold. | ||
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Couldn't have asked for more. | |
| Yeah, back from the beginning. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And I agree with you 100%. | ||
| It was great Joanne had you on. | ||
| Thank you very much, Mom. | ||
| Sir Liberty fights on, fights every day. | ||
| Short break, back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bowne. | |
| If you go to Getter, and I'd ask Grace Chong and Captain Bennett to pull this and put it into the chat room so you can push it out. | ||
| Axios, remember, they're the corporatist tip sheet here in the nation's capital for the inside baseball of inside baseball. | ||
| And they've done a lot of stories on debt and the deficits. | ||
| But they're very pro-regime. | ||
| They've got an article out, Debt as Share of GDP for Select Economies, talking about China, Japan, and the United States. | ||
| And they've now hit the panic button about the runaway debt, the deficits, and here's the reason they're starting to hit the panic button. | ||
| Something like this in areas of finance, as our audience knows, you have to really think things through and kind of plan years down the road. | ||
| There is absolutely no plan here. | ||
| We're in total free fall on this. | ||
| This is what Johnson, these guys, and you know, I just found that they're, they're gone for 10 days. | ||
| They're not back till the 29th. | ||
| I'm not making this up, folks. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| No, they just got back from three weeks of Christmas. | ||
| They took MLK weekend. | ||
| They took another snow day. | ||
| They came back and they're gone. | ||
| Gone. | ||
| This March thing's going to come up on us. | ||
| There's no plan. | ||
| There's no, there's no sense of urgency here. | ||
| That's why I go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
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| And those who advocate solutions now, We'll be looked towards as the leaders when that happens because these other people are just going to melt down. | ||
| Absolute disgrace. | ||
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| Just look at that whole debate with Joanne Reed and make sure you read the Daily Mail story. | ||
| The Daily Mail went off on her, went off on MSNBC. | ||
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| PatriotMobile.com Mike Lindell, Mike, you were actually, before I met you on the Election Integrity, which you kind of came on into after President Trump had left off, I mean beforehand a little bit, but you came like a house on fire. | ||
| You were actually very involved in this situation about kids and what they were being taught in schools. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I seem to get involved in everything I'm concerned out there. | ||
| And this was, we did a movie I completely financed called whose children are they? | ||
| You guys can check that out online. | ||
| Whose children are they? | ||
| Steve, the stuff we've seen in the schools, we had, you know, different, um, so much footage that you'll see, watch this film and you're just going to be blown away and so upset with what's going on. | ||
| And this was two or three years ago. | ||
| And, uh, um, If that was my big fight, I was going to go after the teachers union until all this election stuff came along. | ||
| Once again, there's another thing that manifests from our stolen elections and stuff. | ||
| We have to secure our election platforms or everything is gone. | ||
| We lose the American dream. | ||
| We lose everything. | ||
| Common sense out the window, we have to have elections instead of selections. | ||
| But Steve, it was a battle back then, even making the movie. | ||
| You know, I hear these things, I'm going, wow, this seems like a lifetime ago. | ||
| Actually, the movie came out in the beginning of 2022. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I was watching this film as we were making it, and I'm going, you've got to be kidding, this is going on in our schools? | ||
| except if she's disgusting. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Has the CEO of Fox News, has she had you over for a cup of coffee? | ||
| Talk about how they're going to put you up non-stop between now and the voting tomorrow in New Hampshire. | ||
| Is that happening? | ||
| No, I haven't heard from them yet. | ||
| So we're doing, they're lots of talks and the viewers over there is you guys' games. | ||
| We've, the War Room Posse, every special, every product that comes along, we're passing it on to you with no middleman. | ||
| And we've got the flannel sheets. | ||
| We got some new colors, I guess, that came in the other day. | ||
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| We have 100% no matter what your order ships for free. | ||
| Free shipping on your entire order with that promo code WARROOM and everyone at the War Room, Steve, since you started talking about the final sheets, they just, that's their biggest selling product with the War Room Posse is this. | ||
| What a great enhancing your sleep and staying warm in this crazy cold weather we're having across the country. | ||
| The War Room Posse is built to work. | ||
| We don't need silk sheets or satin sheets, right? | ||
| That's for the elites. | ||
| We got a lot of work to save this country. | ||
| Want those flannel sheets. | ||
| Also, the number is 800-873-1062. | ||
| Remember, Mike Lindell ain't gonna back down. | ||
| And right now, you see a lot of people getting confident. | ||
| We can't get overconfident. | ||
| Yes, there's some great numbers. | ||
| Morning Consult just came out. | ||
| Trump has, I think, a five-point lead over Biden. | ||
| Their poll has never had Trump having a lead, and particularly never had a lead this big. | ||
| So they're all in shock, but we have to close the deal. | ||
| Remember, we won in 2020 with 74 million votes. | ||
| It was stolen. | ||
| We've got to close it this time. | ||
| That's why election integrity is so important. | ||
| And that's why they're keeping Mike Lindell off the air for that simple reason. | ||
| They don't want him on so that his image reminds people of the stolen election. | ||
| MyPillow.com promo code warns you get all the specials that the Fox people can't get because guess what? | ||
| Mike's not trying to cut him out, but they canceled him. | ||
| He's not on. | ||
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| So if they can't see it through the commercials, you can get it. | ||
| Mike, thank you so much for doing this for the posse. | ||
| In particular, they love the products. | ||
| They love the free shipping. | ||
| they love everything you've done to accommodate our audience given the fact that Fox has cut you off brother Mike Lindell They're trying to crush Trump and they're trying to crush Lindell and they're trying to crush Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| You think that's all random? | ||
| Were these guys not heroes before they stood up to America? | ||
| Was Trump not beloved by all of Manhattan and the TV industry and all the fighters and the boxers and the entertainers all come there? | ||
| He was revered by those people. | ||
| Rudy was revered from 9-11. | ||
| Revered. | ||
| Mike Lindell was the pillow guy, right? | ||
| They want to either put him in jail, bankrupt him. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| You ever ask yourself, why is that? | ||
| Why are they going after these guys? | ||
| What have they done besides stand up for their country as patriots? | ||
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| What have they done? | ||
| Some of the greatest patriots in this country. |
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