Jan. 11, 2024 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Winters taking over, I guess now the second hour of War Room on today, Wednesday, January 10th. | ||
| I don't know how Steve does it for four hours a day, six days a week. | ||
| But I'm honored to work with someone who has the strength and capacity to do that. | ||
| I know you guys love him and miss him too, but don't go anywhere because we have a very packed show focusing primarily on the upcoming Taiwanese elections, but through the lens of how that impacts the United States. | ||
| And as Bradley Thayer has so brilliantly, I think, pointed out, how they're really using what is going on in Taiwan. | ||
| The election there is sort of a trial run for Chinese Communist Party influence here. | ||
| in the United States. | ||
| So without further ado, I thought it would be probably fitting to bring in some real experts on the subject matter, and that is, of course, the Chinese Communist Party's mortal enemy. | ||
| Enemy number one is the new federal state of China, and Nicole, who we love so much from the NFSC, to come on and sort of walk us through ahead of these elections what we should be on the lookout for. | ||
| It's so great to be with you. | ||
| There's been a lot of reporting on fighter jet intimidation campaigns and balloons being flown. | ||
| We obviously have our own experience with Chinese five balloons here in the United States, but if you want to walk the audience through what this military intimidation is looking like in Taiwan, I'm sure they'd appreciate it. | ||
| Well, thank you so much for having me on. | ||
| It's so great to be with you. | ||
| So yes, the Taiwan presidential election is only two days away, and this is a very pivotal presidential election because Taiwan is in a very important note in the Indo-Pacific region that matters most to the US national interest. | ||
| If we lose Taiwan, like how Hong Kong is lost to the CCP, then we lose the entire Indo-Pacific US national security in that region. | ||
| So Taiwan is a very important battleground. | ||
| And so it matters a lot, not only because Taiwan Silicon Valley number two. | ||
| I mean, it provides our vital, you know, chips for our industry in this country, but also Taiwan is the most vibrant democracy in that region. | ||
| I mean, this year, more than 19.5 million Taiwanese people have registered to vote. | ||
| And in the last Taiwanese US presidential election, the turnout is 75 compared with Our U.S. | ||
| election in 2020 turned out only at 66%. | ||
| So that's why the CCP has been doing the saber rattling, economic coercion, and trying to influence the outcome of this Taiwan election. | ||
| They definitely want the pro-Beijing parties to succeed, and that is the KMT Kuomintang. | ||
| And the TPP, which is a smaller but also pro-Beijing party. | ||
| And the leading candidate, William Lai, or Lai Qingde, from the DPP, has been leading the poll all the way. | ||
| And he's most detested by the CCP. | ||
| So it will be very interesting to watch how this election is going to turn out. | ||
| But definitely the CCP has not spared any effort with the election interference. | ||
| You well know with the CCP's three warfares doctrine that lawfare is a key component of that and your movement has faced that head on. | ||
| But I'm just curious too, the alternative way, sort of the unrestricted warfare approach to how the Chinese Communist Party is coming after Taiwan, particularly on the economic front. | ||
| I know you were explaining to me how they're banning Taiwanese imports, sort of going after them from a financial and lawfare perspective. Could you sort of talk about that, but also how you think that this could potentially be used against the United States or other countries, sort of as a dry run for a more global application of this? | ||
| Absolutely great question. Interestingly, Communist China is Taiwan's largest trading partner. | ||
| It is also the most existential threat to Taiwan's national security. | ||
| And the last Taiwanese president, Ma Ying-jeou, from the KMT, while he was the Taiwanese president, he deepened Taiwan's economic ties with Communist China. | ||
| So that's why You know, Taiwan's economy is wholly dependent on the CCP. | ||
| So this is the reason why that we have been urging the US to decouple from the CCP, because if we're placing our essential, you know, supply chain and pharmaceutical and many important industries in the hands of the CCP, then they can use the economic coercion, try to influence our political And that's exactly what the CCP is doing to Taiwan. | ||
| For example, just two weeks ago, the CCP announced the cuts of the trade tariffs on Taiwan's chemical products. | ||
| And a couple of years ago, we know that the CCP banned the Taiwanese pineapple and other food and agricultural product. | ||
| But they're only targeting the counties and businesses that are pro the DPP. | ||
| So, for example, if you are a county within Taiwan that supports the DPP or have been showing strong support for the DPP, then any agricultural products coming from this county will be banned or face tariffs, high tariffs. | ||
| But if you are pro-CCP, then any agricultural product from that region will not have to face the punitive trade policies. | ||
| And that's a message that Beijing is trying to send to the Taiwanese voters, that if you are friendlier to Beijing, then you will have economic prosperity. | ||
| If you are not friendlier with the CCP, then you will face punishment. | ||
| And so that's exactly that. | ||
| We see very similar things happening to the US. | ||
| And that's why so many Wall Street companies and corporate Americas, they've been kowtowing to CCP for the exact same reason. | ||
| And people remember John Cena and Houston Rockets and Jamie Dimon and Redalio from, you know, from the Bridgewater. | ||
| These people have been, you know, publicly apologizing to Beijing. | ||
| for either supporting the Hong Kong protesters or saying that Taiwan is an independent nation or saying that something critical of the CCP. | ||
| So everything that happens to Taiwan, that we can see some similarities here in the United States. | ||
| Now, Nicole, you know a lot of my reporting is focused on Chinese Communist Party infiltration here in the United States, but that is something that is not unique to what's going on here. | ||
| I know they're doing it in Taiwan, too. | ||
| So can you talk to the audience a little bit about what it looks like, these foreign influence operations, from the politician perspective? | ||
| In other words, these influence campaigns, whether it's money or honeypots, however they do it, how is that influencing the election and just politics more broadly there? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think, Natalie, the reason why you got so many followers from our movement, because you're probably the only person that I know who actually dig deep into the foreign filing, the Foreign Registration Act. | ||
| This act was introduced by Congress in 1938 to fight Nazi Germans' propaganda and influence peddling on the U.S. | ||
| soil. | ||
| But very few people actually, you know, research and did very deep research into the filing. | ||
| And a lot of your investigative reporting exposed how the CCP has infiltrated in the U.S. | ||
| politics, in business, and they have not been held accountable for the fire violation. | ||
| For example, I remember you did an excellent investigative reporting showing that the mainstream media in this country Ranging from the New York Times and CNN and the Wall Street Journal and MSNBC, these people, they're sending their editors and reporters going to China, all being paid by the CCP. | ||
| And that's exactly what the CCP is doing to the Taiwanese local politicians in order to win the legislative race. | ||
| The CCP has recently paid up to 600 Local politicians from Taiwan to visit China. | ||
| And of course, you know, nothing is provided for free, you know, they want something in return, which is their, you know, being opinion leader, they want this, Beijing want these local politicians to influence their local, you know, voters to vote for the pro-Beijing parties. | ||
| And another example is that there's a legislative candidate, her name is Ma Zhiwei, this woman has been found of taking tens of thousands of dollars from Beijing and even given important intel to the CCP about this election. | ||
| So this person has been detained by the Taiwanese government. | ||
| And so these are some things that we already know from the media, but I'm sure the depth and the breadth of the CCP's unrestricted infiltration in the Taiwanese And last question before I let you go. | ||
| Obviously, we hate TikTok here in the War Room. | ||
| None of us are on it. | ||
| It's a psy-opera by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| But how has that social media platform and maybe some others been really leveraged and weaponized to allow the Chinese Communist Party to influence the election there or just the prevailing discourse on whatever the issue is? | ||
| Absolutely, great question again. | ||
| I mean, the disinformation campaign in Taiwan, you know, launched by the CCP is very similar to what we're seeing in this country on the US soil. | ||
| For example, in Taiwan, there are over 5 million TikTok users, and that's a lot of people. | ||
| And most of these TikTok users are younger generation, they're young people in their 20s. | ||
| And these people They have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by the CCP's disinformation campaign on TikTok. | ||
| And it's just like, in this country, so many young people have been, you know, brainwashed or influenced by the antisemitism spread by the TikTok users. | ||
| And also the leading, the presidential candidate, Kou Wenjie, from the TPP, He's very pro-Beijing and he wants reunification with the CCP. | ||
| I mean, this person has 1.6 million followers on TikTok. | ||
| And so I think the social media platform has been instrumental to the CCP's disinformation campaign. | ||
| So I worry that things are happening to Taiwan's presidential election is happening to the U.S. | ||
| upcoming You know, presidential election because the CCP's playbook is pretty much the same. | ||
| I think I was the one that had broken the story that the founder of TikTok, he admitted that they created the app to, quote, promote socialist core values and foster devotion to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And I think that is exactly what we're seeing play out in real time. | ||
| Nicole, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| If people want to follow you, get in touch with the New Federalist State of China movement, where can they go to do all of that? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Before you let me go, I want to add another thing about the honeypot, you know, because the CCP is very good at corrupting the politicians. | ||
| And when these politicians or businessmen travel to China and they will send, you know, sex bribes and put everything on tape. | ||
| And according to our whistleblowers, and this is exactly why the former Taiwanese president, Ma Ying-jeou, Of course. | ||
| spreading the Beijing's disinformation propaganda because he definitely has some tapes being held in CCP's hands. So you can follow us on NFSCspeak on X, formerly known as Twitter, or NFSCspeak on Getter. And thank you so much for having me today. | ||
| Of course. Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Now our next guest is Dr. Bradley Thayer, who is always writing wonderful commentary for the warroom.org website and always doing so much more, but I wanted to kind of take a step back because I think the War Room Posse, the kind of nationalist populist movement Has maybe, you know, a bad memory, a bad taste in the mouth when we start to talk about other countries than our own, right? | ||
| When we focus on the borders or, you know, geopolitical situation of, you know, Taiwan and maybe it's the Ukraine syndrome, right? | ||
| I think there's a distinction between what's going on in Ukraine and Taiwan, of course, but in your opinion, and maybe I'm wrong on this, but can you explain to the audience why you think That Taiwan matters to the United States, but from an America First perspective, if you think that is the case. | ||
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Hi Natalie, it's great to be with you again. | |
| So it certainly matters. | ||
| Taiwan matters to the United States and to this audience for four major reasons. | ||
| The first of which is that Taiwan is the world's leading chip producer. | ||
| So our economy is heavily dependent, of course, on those chips. | ||
| And if anything were to interfere with it, with chip production, of course, which would happen if China invades Taiwan, that would have a very significant impact on a US economy, which is already stressed due to the so many other problems that it has with respect to inflation or illegal immigration and The stresses that are being introduced by the Biden administration. | ||
| The second reason why it matters is because Taiwan occupies critical geostrategic real estate in conjunction with Japan and the Philippines. | ||
| Taiwan occupies space that serves to bottle up the People's Republic of China's aggression, its ability to access Uh, the Pacific Ocean. | ||
| Uh, so having Taiwan, uh, as a partner of the United States is absolutely essential. | ||
| Third reason why it matters is because Taiwan can also be used as a base, uh, by the United States intelligence communities, of course, and the military, uh, and other actors to project power against. | ||
| against the People's Republic of China. | ||
| And then fourthly, it matters because in the realm of political warfare, you're very attuned to this, Natalie, of course, that Taiwan is significant for two major reasons, one of which it shows what China should be that Taiwan is a vibrant democracy with a flourishing economy. | ||
| And that has a long tradition, of course, now of elections. | ||
| Um, and competitive political parties, democratic institutions. | ||
| All of that shows that China could have those elements as well if the communists had not come to power in 1949 and taken China in a very dark and a terrible direction. | ||
| So it matters firstly in political warfare because it shows what China might be, could have been, and at some point might be again if the CCP were overthrown. | ||
| The second reason why Taiwan matters is because the Taiwanese have great knowledge about what's happening within China. | ||
| And so the Taiwanese can offer great help and assistance in identifying themes So all of those reasons means Taiwan is a critical partner of the United States. | ||
| a society that can be exploited through political warfare to undermine the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So all of those reasons means Taiwan is a critical partner of the United States. | ||
| Our economy is heavily dependent on it in the war against the People's Republic of China. | ||
| Taiwan is a critical partner and the Taiwanese have critical advice to give us and insights to provide about how to cut the head off the snake, which is how to overthrow the Chinese Communist Party and remove that threat, existential threat, from the United States and from the American people. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| . | ||
| election integrity perspective, that we should look at what's going on in Taiwan, since the Chinese Communist Party is obviously so intent on influencing those election results? | ||
| And you said at first, but it's sort of a trial run for what they could potentially try to do here in the United States. Yes. | ||
| So, Joseph Wu, the Taiwanese foreign minister at the beginning of the year, said that the CCP is interfering in the Taiwanese election. | ||
| No surprise there. | ||
| And he identified mechanisms through essentially cyber means that they're going to be doing. | ||
| Secondly, as Nicole mentioned, traditions of bribery, interference. | ||
| When Nicole mentioned the 600 local officials, Uh, who were invited, uh, to, uh, China. | ||
| Uh, of course, those are ways to buy influence, um, within, um, China. | ||
| Um, and then there are coercive measures, for example, the satellite launch airplanes, for example, all of that signaling, uh, the Taiwanese people that, um, communist China is looking at them very, very closely and wants to put the thumb on the scale. | ||
| Uh, for their favored candidates. | ||
| But all of this is a trial run for the United States for November 2024 and our U. S. Presidential election. | ||
| Because there are other mechanisms that Joseph who didn't mention that could be employed as well. | ||
| We're worried about, of course, the employment of artificial intelligence and deep fakes in that regard. | ||
| We're also worried about the Tens of thousands, no one really knows how many Chinese men of military age, very likely MSS agents or PLA agents or People's Police or other authorities are coming into the United States. | ||
| Those individuals, of course, could be a fifth column. | ||
| They could be used to conduct election interference operations. | ||
| And so that provides muscle, really, for the Chinese Communist Party on the ground within the United States to undermine our elections. | ||
| Other tools as well. | ||
| Xi Jinping's embraced by the 400 individuals, business leaders who came In San Francisco, in the Bay Area, who welcomed him at that unseemly and appalling meeting that they had in mid-November. | ||
| That's a key aspect of election interference, too. | ||
| What he's signaling is to those leaders, business leaders have tremendous influence, of course, in Congress, elsewhere in Washington, of course, with the administration and with the society at large. | ||
| They're interfering in the election by conveying their support for Xi Jinping, and Xi Jinping is saying to those 400 that, hey, he wants to ensure that, if you will, a pro-engagement candidate wins. | ||
| That would be Biden or Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama, clearly. | ||
| As opposed to Trump, who of course, Xi Jinping does not want to have elected. | ||
| So we can see that there are many mechanisms that the PRC can use to interfere in our election, and Taiwan is a test case for that. | ||
| Some are very old-fashioned, like bribery. | ||
| Uh, business influence, for example. | ||
| All of that is quite well known. | ||
| Others are perhaps more on the cutting edge when we're looking at how artificial intelligence can be deployed as well. | ||
| And then also something we have not had in American elections where there is a fifth column Physically interfering in the electoral process, providing muscle for the PRC to get behind their favorite candidates. | ||
| So it's going to be obviously as War Room has stressed time and again, 2024 is a critical election year, but it's going to be affected not just by what the Democrats do, but also by what and how the People's Republic of China interferes in the election. | ||
| Before I let you go, you had a wonderful piece up, I think it was An American Greatness, that had to do with kind of the Chinese military, how they're maybe projecting weakness when that actually wasn't the case. | ||
| I'm sure Sun Tzu would be very proud. | ||
| But if you want to walk the audience a little bit through that, I'm sure they'd appreciate it, and then I'll let you go. | ||
| Well, thank you. | ||
| Yes, I wrote that with Jim Finnell, of course, and the piece was making the following argument that There has been recently a lot of attention paid purportedly to the weakness of Xi Jinping and his lack of control or perhaps tenuous control over the Chinese military. | ||
| There have been a series of news reports. | ||
| Natalie, of course, you're very familiar with those in terms of recent firings that have been done by senior military officials. | ||
| There have been news reports about, for example, how Chinese nuclear capabilities are not what they are, but there's corruption in, for example, their intercontinental ballistic missile force. | ||
| Uh, and how that's been manipulated. | ||
| Um, Jim and I think that that's not accurate, that in fact, as you said at the outset, introducing it, that it is an aspect of conveying weakness when in fact they're very strong in terms of their growing conventional power. | ||
| And in terms of their tremendous growth in their nuclear arsenal and nuclear infrastructure, the ability to produce nuclear weapons at a large scale and the ability to deploy those on new systems at a strategic range, able to reach the U.S. | ||
| or in a theater range in Asia against India, for example, or our allies, Australia, the Philippines, Japan, or even at a tactical level against, for example, the U.S. | ||
| Navy. | ||
| So we made that argument. | ||
| Additionally, we said that a very interesting development has occurred, and that is that there is now an admiral who is the Chinese defense minister. | ||
| And that is an indication of Xi's control, actually, his ability to not pick a general, which traditionally had been a Chinese defense minister, to reach out to pick a naval officer, an admiral, To serve as a defense minister and that's an indication of the growing importance of maritime power. | ||
| Moving away from land power, of course, which is still significant, of course, for China, but showing that the Chinese military has also greatly expanded its maritime presence, its ability to project power using its Navy and Coast Guard and affiliated forces. | ||
| And it also works in tandem, of course, with its growing nuclear capabilities, as I mentioned, Sure. | ||
| It shows that the Chinese military is very dynamic and growing in ways which are not traditional. | ||
| It's showing that it is able to evolve. | ||
| And doctors, they were coming up against a break. | ||
| So I'm sorry, but I have to interrupt you there. | ||
| If people want to follow you, read the pieces, where can they go to do all that? | ||
| Brad Thayer at X or Bradley Thayer at Getter and at Truth. | ||
| Natalie, thanks very much. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| And you guys know the Biden regime is trying to project that the economy is strong, when in reality, it is so not, which is why you guys have to go to birchgold.com slash Bannon to get the latest installment of the End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
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| And with that, we'll be back with more Taiwanese election unpacking, national security stuff, Colonel John Mills, Chris Chen, you name it. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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War Room Battlegrounds with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| you Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| It's still Natalie G. Winters holding down the fort, but don't worry, she will be back tomorrow. | ||
| And you also don't have to worry because we have, I think, one of the best and most prepared War Room guests to come on very shortly. | ||
| That is, of course, Colonel John Mills, who always brings the best charts and graphs. | ||
| He knows I love them very much. | ||
| So, John, you're one of those guests where I feel like I don't really even have to ask you a question because you're always so prepared. | ||
| So tell us what we need to know about, you know, these upcoming elections and feel free to take it as your own, play the videos, show us the graphs, the clips. | ||
| The floor is yours. | ||
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Oh, thank you, Natalie. | |
| It's always an honor to be on the show with you. | ||
| And it's morning time in Taipei, Taiwan. | ||
| Hey, Logan, let's start with clip 141, please. | ||
| Because that was being repeated in Ukraine, or this is a repetition of what's happening in Ukraine. | ||
| And you can see the news link of this. | ||
| That's a report by Taiwan. | ||
| And then another thing, it's about the TSMC investment in Arizona. | ||
| You know, this is a big... So stop. | ||
| Let's go to the still picture of the missile alert. | ||
| Yeah, so this was a press conference by Joseph Wu, the foreign minister. | ||
| And then a short time later, we got interrupted by this missile alert that caused a bit of pandemonium in the room. | ||
| Um, so let's go to the next picture of the air tracks around Taiwan, that picture of the map of Taiwan and all the colorful lines around Taiwan. | ||
| That's the most real. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this was, uh, the person next to me was a Brit who was from a Spanish radio station in Beijing and he didn't get the alert and was a bit panicked and wondering why he didn't get the alert. | ||
| Uh, well, we'll talk about that. | ||
| So I actually brought this question up at the press conference with Mr. Wu, and they actually were so interested, they came over directly to me and they called upon, this is the War Room and Worldview Television, you know, me representing both. | ||
| And they wanted to, they called on me over some of these other players, such as the New York Times, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| And they came and wanted to talk about this afterwards. | ||
| This is the air track of the enduring high altitude Long, uh, long endurance drones that are continually circling Taiwan. | ||
| And I brought these up as one, it's a military message to, uh, it is, uh, information warfare, cognitive warfare, which Mr. Wu and Mr. Lai and Xiaobai Kim, the vice president of Candle Date went into. | ||
| And I said, so it's a military message. | ||
| It's a, it's intimidation. | ||
| It's coercion, which is illegal per US law. | ||
| Uh, it's also, uh, Cognitive warfare. | ||
| It's also a safety of flight issue. | ||
| And this is an exact reason why Taiwan should be let back into international bodies, such as ICAO, the International Civil Airline Organization. | ||
| I had to fly through this and, you know, OK, is my my airliner going to bump into one of these long-dwell drones that can be armed? | ||
| These drones do have the capability to arm. | ||
| So this is an absolute coercion, intimidation and a message of an ability to envelop Taiwan. | ||
| Let's go to clip 53, please, Amy there. | ||
| All right, everyone, this is Carl Rett John in New Taipei City. | ||
| And I got a somebody here named Amy. | ||
| And Amy, where do you live at actually? | ||
| Los Angeles, California. | ||
| So the Taiwan city of Los Angeles, California. | ||
| So you came back here to vote, is that correct? | ||
| I came back just for the vote, because I feel the urgency this time. | ||
| And I never really voted here before. | ||
| So if I could ask you, which candidate are you voting for? | ||
| Oh, you mean here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The Green Party, of course. | ||
| That is absolutely awesome, Amy. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you so much for participating, both in America and here. | ||
| I'm so happy I can join this historic moment with everybody here. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| Thank you very much, Amy. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Let's go to clip 178, please. | ||
| So Amy was there. | ||
| She was at a DPP rally. | ||
| We've been to several. | ||
| The DPP is essentially Make Taiwan Great Again. | ||
| Let's go to 178 with Peter. | ||
| This is Colonel Red John. | ||
| We're at the TPP rally with Peter. | ||
| So Peter, what brought you to the rally tonight? | ||
| Okay, very good. | ||
| So he's a fan of the TPP and Ko Wenzhe. | ||
| Because I'm just a fan of Kowloon. | ||
| He's a fan of Kowloon. | ||
| Okay, very good. So he's a fan of the TPP and Kowloon. | ||
| So, Peter, what is the biggest issue for the election in your mind? | ||
| What do you think is the most important issue in this election? | ||
| What is the most important issue? | ||
| 打破台灣長年以來幾十年來唯一對藍綠的框架。 She wants Taiwan to have a change because before in Taiwan it was just only two parties go against each other. | ||
| She wants to break this situation. | ||
| OK, so Peter would like to see, there was a lot of fighting between the other two parties and so he'd like to see a new party come in and change the dynamic. | ||
| So Peter, what about Taiwan and China? | ||
| Let's go ahead and go to clip 167. | ||
| Oh, again, we're at the KMT rally. | ||
| This is Han Kuo-yu speaking right now. | ||
| He was a former presidential candidate. | ||
| He was the mayor of Kaohsiung. | ||
| Uh, he lost in the 2020 election, but he's out campaigning for the KMT. | ||
| Okay, let's go to clip one of, uh, the one, uh, oh my gosh, I can't see it there. | ||
| Uh, the Wang Yi Trump one. | ||
| That's clip 158. | ||
| 150, yes. | ||
| This is Team Taiwan. | ||
| This is the DPP party. | ||
| You're going to probably see a picture. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| There he is. | ||
| And we have Trump on the side! | ||
| Okay, we can... | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay, great, great. | ||
| So it shows the diversity of the different candidates. | ||
| So Green, Team Taiwan, that's the DPP, that's William Lai and Xiaobai Kim. | ||
| They have a very close, they want a close relationship with America and they're very populist out of the three parties. | ||
| They are definitely the populist party. | ||
| They want to be a sovereign. | ||
| I mean, they feel they are already a sovereign, independent nation. | ||
| They don't need to ask permission of anybody, especially that big thuggish country to the left. | ||
| And so we're already our own country. | ||
| And he also, Dr. Wu also mentioned the TSMC chips. | ||
| Again, so important to our economy. | ||
| Now we have a special visit this afternoon. | ||
| We're going to a TSMC chip plant. | ||
| I mean, Taiwan is just kind of like the little Swiss watchmaker. | ||
| Why are they so good at watches in Switzerland? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But I mean, same with chips. | ||
| Taiwan is just the world's best chip maker. | ||
| Spent some time over here when I was in DoD and it was hard to explain. | ||
| They just get it right and they nail it when it comes to chip manufacturing, which is a very, very complex and expensive process. | ||
| And you got to get everything. | ||
| You got to get those jigs and casts and dies set up. | ||
| I mean, it's big money. | ||
| You got to get it set up right and correct. | ||
| And once it's right and correct, you start stamping out those chips. | ||
| You got to get it right. | ||
| It's a very expensive process and they get it right. | ||
| You had Han Kuo at the KMT, that's the legacy, Goming Dong, Chiang Kai-shek party. | ||
| And not that we're being partisan anyway, it's a big snooze at those, not big gatherings. | ||
| Han Kuo is totally in the pocket of the CCP. | ||
| And he was the candidate from last, in 2020. | ||
| And the Taiwanese very effectively in January, excuse me, December of 19, November, December of 2019, They passed a law really quickly, forbade, and they called it the Anti-Infiltration Law, that forbade the taking of money, of foreign money. | ||
| And they arrested a bunch of dirty KMT. | ||
| Han Kuo was the candidate back then. | ||
| President Tsai won and was very good, totally shut down the Chinese influence operations. | ||
| They've already had almost 200 arrests under the Anti-Infiltration Law. | ||
| In fact, that gentleman at the nighttime outside rally, the TPP, they kind of are the centrist party. | ||
| We don't want to see fighting between the KMT and the DPP. | ||
| But most of them say they want to be independent. | ||
| Well, if they want to be independent, join the DPP. | ||
| Why do you want to be in the TPP? | ||
| But Han Kuo, he still has a lot of power. | ||
| And the numbers, it's unclear because there's about a 10 day silence window on numbers and polling. | ||
| It looks like Lai is in the lead. | ||
| That's the green candidate for the DPP, the Populist Party. | ||
| Uh, and, uh, so we, uh, we're, we're, we're coming down to the election on this Saturday here. | ||
| The question is really the legislature. | ||
| It's pretty, pretty sure, not for sure. | ||
| We can't say for sure, but it's leaning toward live for the presidency. | ||
| The question is the, the National Assembly, the legislative view on who's, is that going to, who's going to dominate there? | ||
| Cause if it's split, uh, that could be a little bit of trouble. | ||
| So Natalie, that's an overview of all the actions and activities over here so far. | ||
| Well, thank you so much for that extremely thorough overview. | ||
| Seriously, that was wonderful. | ||
| I'm sure the audience appreciated that. | ||
| I have one question for you before I let you go, because you sort of just did everything. | ||
| You laid it all out for us. | ||
| You can't get that in the mainstream media. | ||
| But we were talking with Dr. Bradley Thayer in the previous segment about how we think Some of these foreign influence ops that they're using to infiltrate and influence these elections, that it's sort of like a test run or a trial run for how the CCP could potentially influence the elections here in the United States. | ||
| I'm just curious your perspective on that. | ||
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The center of gravity of the Chinese influence operation in America is definitely going to be TikTok. | |
| And you notice the blue team in America, the Biden team, they've been very hesitant. | ||
| Now it's odd. | ||
| They do allow TikTok in Taiwan. | ||
| However, With my experience with the Taiwan Ministry of National Defense and the Taiwan Cybersecurity Agency, the Taiwan CERT Community Computer Emergency Response Team, they are very good at bleeping and deleting TikTok videos that are clearly influence activities. | ||
| And they didn't mention that specific aspect, but I just I know they're very good at that here. | ||
| So they're good at throttling the ones that are clearly shameless influence. | ||
| That's going to be the tip of the spear in America is TikTok. | ||
| This is why the blue team in America just declines to, they might go after, they might cut off chips from the mainland. | ||
| They might keep Trump trade tariffs, but they just drag their feet on this TikTok issue. | ||
| And so that's gonna be the tip of the spear for Chinese influence of the American election in November. | ||
| Colonel Mills, if people want to really get your wonderful analysis, get the, I think it's Substack or the email, where can they go to do all that? | ||
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Colonel Rett John, Substack, Getter, and Truth. | |
| Colonel Rhett John at Substack. | ||
| You'll just stop, you'll say, stop, stop sending me things. | ||
| I'm getting, I'm drowning in all this incredible material. | ||
| So Colonel Rhett John, Substack Getter and Truth. | ||
| I'm also on Friday's CD Media with the Pacific SITREP. | ||
| Also Wednesday, Thursday nights, America Out Loud News Network with the Uh, national security hour podcast, and, uh, then also starting a new show, the situation room on worldview television with, uh, Brandon house. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| And thank you so much for joining us. | ||
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Natalie. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Always an honor to be on your, on your show with you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Almost as much of an honor as being on with Steve. | ||
| No, you just don't think so. | ||
| Self-deprecating. | ||
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Um, our next guest, Chris. | |
| You are joining us. | ||
| I think you have some more to contribute to the discussion of what's going on in Taiwan. | ||
| Hi, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| So I'm just curious, where do you think the current state of affairs lies? | ||
| What do you want to tell the American people about what we need to know ahead of these elections? | ||
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Hi, everyone. | |
| My name is Chris. | ||
| I'm a Taiwanese patriot and a member of NFSC. | ||
| I think the people need to know is that Taiwan is. | ||
| Love a country that love freedom, democracy, rule of law and human rights. | ||
| We share the same value as Americans and. | ||
| Like if we look at Recently, our former president Ma Ying-jeou's speech, that was a terrible speech. | ||
| And Ma Ying-jeou is a nightmare for the Taiwan people. | ||
| Like, we firmly oppose Ma Ying-jeou because he is a total sellout. | ||
| And then KMT is a sellout. | ||
| And then the TPP leader, Ke Wen-je is also a sellout too. | ||
| He's, he's, uh, Mind Joe's speech, uh, yesterday. | ||
| Um, it was, uh, it doesn't represent Taiwan or any of the people in Taiwan. | ||
| He only represents Xi Jinping. | ||
| And, um, uh, back in times that the registrature, uh, controlled under KMT and Mind Joe. | ||
| Blocked the arms sales between the USA and Taiwan for six, nine times. | ||
| And then like during Ma Ying-jeou's interview, he criticized Speaker Pelosi and other USA officials who supported Taiwan. | ||
| So as a Taiwanese, we urge the USA government to support Taiwan's sovereignty. | ||
| We do not want war. | ||
| We want the world to keep Taiwan Strait safe. | ||
| Taiwan has never caused any damage to the world. | ||
| Taiwan is not a problem, but a part of a solution to the world. | ||
| As Taiwanese, we want our next president to defend Taiwan's sovereignty and democracy. | ||
| We don't want what happened in Hong Kong to repeat again in Taiwan. | ||
| We want the international community to support Taiwan's national defense and economic prosperity. | ||
| So like Taiwan can work with the rest of the world to keep the world safe and we can help the world together to take down the CCP too. | ||
| So that's what I would like to let everyone know. | ||
| Today. | ||
| And I'm just curious, you know, you're obviously talking to a bunch of American patriots here in the war room. | ||
| What would you tell them as a cautionary tale, either anecdotally or more broadly, but what it looks like when the Chinese Communist Party infiltrates your country, takes over, you know, even personal stories. | ||
| What does that look like? | ||
| And why should Americans, I mean, not that they don't know, but But why should we really justifiably be so scared of a potential CCP invasion or takeover or continued infiltration in Taiwan and here at home? | ||
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Well, like American people need to be careful of the CCP is that what CCP touches, it turns into Something really bad. | |
| Like if you remember what happened after CCP took China, there was a cultural revolution and all the massacres. | ||
| So and also if you see what CCP do to the country who joined the One Belt One Road, they don't get better. | ||
| Like when they work with CCP, They only get worse. | ||
| And we see recently that CCP has infiltrated the whole world. | ||
| Also they infiltrated America. | ||
| We see like how things changed in America. | ||
| But people are fighting. | ||
| So we should keep out the fight and we should push CCP away. | ||
| We should oppose CCP and we should like Don't give money to the CCP, listen to the advice from the new federal state of China, and then unite on this issue of taking down the CCP. | ||
| Chris, thank you so much. | ||
| I have apparently a bunch of sunlight coming up. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| I know the Warren Posse loves to hear the kind of boots-on-the-ground perspective, what it's really like. | ||
| To follow you, the New Federalist State of China movement, where can they go to do all that? | ||
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Oh, I'm now in Taiwan Farm. | |
| It's a part of the New Federalist State of China. | ||
| And in Taiwan Farm, we have lots of members and we do online and offline. | ||
| Online, we post on Gather and we post on Gnews. | ||
| And offline we promote getter and genius and then we spread the truth to the world. | ||
| So just thank you. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| I'm sure the Posse will love to follow you there. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| And Warren Posse, thank you so much for hanging with me. | ||
| You guys know we don't want the Chinese Communist Party to infiltrate us any more than they already have. | ||
| So we've got to support the parallel and alternative economy, which is, of course, epitomized I think so. | ||
| Thank you so much for hanging out with me, and honestly, Colonel Mills, all these guests, this is analysis you guys can't get in the mainstream news, because they're bought and paid for by the CCP! |
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