Dec. 28, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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There was a general decline in some of the migrant flows. | |
| Again, not perfect, not saying that it was down to a level that was comfortable for anybody, but there had been a decline. | ||
| And so we want to see that same effort being applied again. | ||
| As a team, going forward and we'll see where that goes. | ||
| But we're working on this really hard. | ||
| Another thing is these crowds here in Eagle Pass have never been this large during my reporting. | ||
| This is the most people I've ever seen in Eagle Pass and other reporters, colleagues working other parts of the border. | ||
| In Arizona, in Jucumba near San Diego, tell me the same thing. | ||
| We have these conversations and the conversation is always, well, I've never seen this number of migrants arriving. | ||
| And we know from the reports coming from the government with these numbers. | ||
| So we have the number of apprehensions, the numbers of encounters, everything spiking. | ||
| So we don't know what this will mean moving forward. | ||
| We just know that the numbers are much larger as the resources are spread thin. | ||
| I understand you don't want to negotiate from the podium, but can you tell the American people if there's any immigration policy that this White House is willing to talk about and is working on with Republicans? | ||
| So I want to be really careful as negotiations happen. | ||
| We don't want to Do this in the public, right? | ||
| It does not help the process. | ||
| And so we want to make sure that those negotiations are happening. | ||
| Obviously, we're part of those negotiations with the senators. | ||
| We think it's going in the right direction. | ||
| We want to make sure that we get to a bipartisan agreement. | ||
| It's incredibly important. | ||
| The president understands. | ||
| He understands that we have to fix this immigration system. | ||
| It has been broken for decades now. | ||
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Some illegal border crossers are being given court dates in 2031. | |
| What are they supposed to do here for seven years? | ||
| Again, that's a better question put to the DHS. | ||
| I'm not in a position to talk about specific cases like that. | ||
| Well, mine's a little dark. | ||
| I just feel a lot of concern that 2024 may be the year of a black swan event. | ||
| This is a national security event with high impact that's very hard to predict. | ||
| There are a number of concerns that I have that factor into that, not only this sort of enduring heightened threat level that we're facing, the wars in Israel, also Ukraine, and we're so divided in this country in ways that we haven't seen before, and I think that just creates fertile ground for our adversaries like North Korea, China, and Iran, and that's what concerns me most. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies. | |
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Wow, what an alarming cold open. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Winters, not Stephen K. Bannon, hosting today, filling in on Wednesday, December 27th in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| I know I love America. | ||
| I'm probably pretty sure that if you're here watching War Room this early, a few days after Christmas, you do too. | ||
| And I'm sorry to put you through that cold open, but I think it's clearer than ever that these people are lying to our faces. | ||
| about what they're doing with the southern border. | ||
| The reason why the White House won't negotiate in public, same with the Democratic senators, is because I think the plans that they have for this country, what they want to do on the southern border is so twisted and depraved. | ||
| We're seeing it happen in real time. | ||
| Just look at the words of those MSNBC reporters. | ||
| They know the American people would never go for it. | ||
| But frankly, I don't even think they care. | ||
| You know, we talk about and say, dare to say the words, the great replacement theory here on The War Room. | ||
| But what I think you come to realize and what our next guest, Todd Bensman, I think has seen for quite some time now is that Through immigration, let's call it what it is. | ||
| I think it's a weapon of mass migration. | ||
| They're not just trying to replace Americans. | ||
| They're trying to replace America as it exists. | ||
| They want this country to fall to the ground. | ||
| They're pretty straightforward and outright about that. | ||
| I think Todd Bensman is the perfect guest to bring on. | ||
| You've been warning since, I think, long before the Biden regime ever took over, but what they're trying to do. | ||
| I'm on the southern border. | ||
| I know you just returned from Europe, and I want to get into sort of your meta-level observations from what you saw there. | ||
| But before we get into that, I've seen some reporting that there's a new caravan emerging. | ||
| I was wondering if you could sort of walk us through that. | ||
| And frankly, with the ridiculous numbers we've already seen trying to enter this country, you know, is 15,000 people really even that big of a deal? | ||
| Well, the caravan is coming because we're letting everybody in. | ||
| Everybody who reaches the border one way or another, whether they're doing it through the CBP One app or just crossing illegally, is being allowed to enter and stay. | ||
| And that is the central ingredient to inspire and provoke the entire world to come and take part in it while the getting's good. | ||
| 15,000 a day is an all-time US record. | ||
| I think it's probably an all-time record for any country in the world, even during times of war. | ||
| This is something that is, you know, out of any historic context at all. | ||
| The numbers that are coming through, it's very, very significant. | ||
| We're pushing 350,000 a month, if you count God of Ways, maybe even 400,000, depending on how you count God of Ways, and this is really something that is historic for the country and transformational. | ||
| There was an article up in the New York Post yesterday detailing how there's these sort of weird travel agencies popping up in a variety of African countries, Middle Eastern countries, basically everywhere, every country that hates the United States, but they're basically facilitating This immigration to the United States, they're organizing bus rides. | ||
| In other words, it sort of, I think, is at odds with the narrative we're hearing from the White House, which is, oh, this is just all unorganized. | ||
| It just has to do with seasonality. | ||
| Because it's warmer or colder, there's going to be more people or less people. | ||
| I'm just curious if you could kind of go back in to the numbers. | ||
| The fact that the White House is saying that, I mean, that's an abject lie, right? | ||
| It's intentional. | ||
| There's groups, whether it's things like companies like Delta, we see them busing migrants even deeper into the country. | ||
| But from your perspective, really honing in on the data, do you really think it's fair to say that the White House is doing absolutely nothing, and if they're actually doing anything, they're exacerbating the crisis? | ||
| Well, I do think that it's fair to say that the White House and the Biden administration are doing this with great intention. | ||
| This is not incompetence. | ||
| I don't think that anybody can any longer after three years mistake this as some kind of like screw up or factors out of control of the White House. | ||
| This is being done with great purpose by the White House, by the DHS and by the people that they've brought in to advise on immigration policy. | ||
| They have pretty much turned the safeties off at the border, so there's no safeties, there's no pushbacks, very few deportations, really anything that would impede or deter illegal immigration. | ||
| And in fact, they say out loud repeatedly that their actual policy is the safe, orderly, humane, and lawful pathways into the United States. | ||
| So this is really historic, too. | ||
| We've never had a White House or a presidency that took a position like this. | ||
| This is really something unusual and strange, really, in the annals of all nations that have ever existed or that exist anywhere in the country. | ||
| And I think the true, I guess, consequence that is the biggest consequence of this is that our legal immigration system stands completely undermined, eroded, and in tatters. | ||
| Because why bother doing it the legal way when you get the same benefit by doing it the illegal way? | ||
| And so we have millions and millions of people just pouring into the country these videos. | ||
| The images just speak for themselves. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| And it is with purpose. | ||
| And the organizations that you mentioned, I just want to say that when you have This number of people who have relatives in the United States and have financial means in the third countries where they were living for years, everybody cashes in. | ||
| Organized NGOs are making money hand over fist by this. | ||
| Smugglers are making money hand over fist. | ||
| The cartels are making money. | ||
| There are organizations that are making money legally from resettling, transporting, renting out their hotels, all of the housing, everything. | ||
| People are making a lot of money on this. | ||
| Ultimately, that's really what the bottom line is for as far as motivation goes on this kind of thing. | ||
| It always has been. | ||
| It's all coordinated and a not-so-fun fact, I guess, for America. | ||
| of crew, that far-left legal, they call themselves the watchdog, but they're anything, but that helped to bring that lawsuit that removed President Trump from the Colorado ballot. | ||
| Do you know their CEO also happens to be on the Homeland Security Advisory Council, appointed by Mayorkas? | ||
| No conspiracies, no coincidences, but Todd, I'm curious because it seems like we're already sort of starting to hear that refrain from the White House, the term that I'm sure you're all too familiar with, comprehensive immigration reform. I get triggered whenever I hear that because that means, you know, amnesty dropping, e-verify, more legal immigration, DACA, who knows? The floodgates are going to be opened. And I'm not just talking about the Biden regime welding the floodgates open. But do you | ||
| have any insight as to, you know, come 2024, come negotiations on the Hill, where you think the current negotiations stand and where we're going to end up with immigration packages, with border security? Well, remember that the Biden campaign, the Biden-Harris campaign in 2020, 2019, a central component of their promise was | ||
| general amnesty in a campaign, in a a An immigration reform bill, which they put forth immediately, just like they said they would, that would have included this mass amnesty. | ||
| They, they campaigned on this back then. | ||
| Uh, I, I see elements of that starting to emerge now in the 2024 campaign. | ||
| I'm not sure if this time the White House, the incumbent, the campaign is going to see as much. | ||
| Uh, I guess benefit political benefit from it this time because, uh, the, uh, democratic run cities and their democratic constituent base in these cities are angry, uh, at the human flood that is just overwhelming, you know, black and Latino communities, uh, taking all the resources and that sort of thing. | ||
| So I think it's a little touchy for them to do it, but I do think that it is their ultimate. | ||
| Dream scenario is to just bring in millions of people, declare them citizens or, you know, on a short path to citizenry and, you know, why not hope that they vote maybe Democrat? | ||
| I don't think it's going to happen this time around, but I've got a watchful eye out for it. | ||
| Well, we know a welfare state and an open border doesn't coexist very well. | ||
| I'd also throw in a country that runs their elections with lax voter ID laws and an open border with countries that want to see presidents like Donald J. Trump never back in office, doesn't vote well for anyone who actually wants to put America first. | ||
| But I know Steve is the cinematic genius, but in that cold open that I I pieced together, I ended with that clip of Catherine Herridge, maybe doing a little bit of predictive programming, dare I say, but sort of calling the shots saying that she sees a black swan type event coming in 2024. | ||
| If I remember correctly, I think you did just get back traveling across Europe. | ||
| What do you think kind of is the omen or the lesson to take away from the national security perspective? | ||
| I know you've been on the Jihad angle when it comes to our open southern border. | ||
| But do you think when we talk about the potential for a terrorist incident or some national security threat arising as a result of this open border, do you think those fears are overblown? | ||
| Or why do you think we could see something like that happen in 2024? | ||
| Well, I do think that the European context can inform a lot of what's going on here in the United States. | ||
| And what's happening there is you have a really powerful Resurgence of a mass migration crisis into Central Western Europe countries and people remember in 2015 and 2016 the last time this happened that there were terror attacks as a result. | ||
| And Todd, if I can hold you through the break, we've got to jump. | ||
| This is my first time hosting the show with the Christmas music, not Take Down the CCP. | ||
| I feel like I'm cheating on the Take Down the CCP crowd. | ||
| But we'll be right back. | ||
| We've got Todd Bensman, Harnwell, Darren J. Beattie, Dr. Wolf. | ||
| We've got a packed show. | ||
| It may not be Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| It's Natalie G. Spine. | ||
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Still got a lot of news to get through. | |
| We'll be right back after this break. | ||
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Welcome back to the War Room. | |
| I feel bad interrupting this beautiful music, but fortunately we've got a lot of news to get to here in the War Room. | ||
| Kind of news you probably don't want to hear, but then it's imperative you know. | ||
| So we can save this country once and for all. | ||
| Todd Bensman has been on the front line of that battle. | ||
| Todd, I know I had to interrupt you, but do you want to pick up where you left off before I let you go? | ||
| Just sort of the warning signs, the lessons we can learn from Europe. | ||
| Well, I was just saying that Europe is suffering the greatest mass migration resurgence that they've seen since 2015, 2016, the really big one that brought in ISIS operatives and terrorists from all over the Middle East who conducted really bloody attacks from one end of the continent to the other for five years after that. | ||
| And it really turned the European public against this kind of mass migration from those countries. | ||
| And what we're seeing in the European theater right now is a strong tilt to the right, to conservative parties that are proposing immigration control and border security kind of proposals, and they're winning. | ||
| And even the liberal governments, they are now realizing that they have to get tough on their borders, on the external EU borders in order to retain power. | ||
| And I think that that sort of thing is a harbinger for maybe the American elections coming up in 2024, maybe a little silver lining there for conservatives. | ||
| But really, it was the terror attacks, it was the unfamiliar crime waves, you know, lots of rape in countries that never had rape before, things like, you know, riots in France, a lot of problems associated with the 2015-2016 mass migration that's still in everybody's minds. | ||
| I would pay attention to European policy fixes. | ||
| I'll be writing about those in the next weeks. | ||
| Some of their ideas might be applicable to the American theater as well when 2024-2025 rolls around. | ||
| Todd, if people want to stay up to date with all your work, get the books, where can they go to do all that? | ||
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Sure. | |
| Well, I still have the only book written about, the definitive book written about this particular mass migration crisis. | ||
| It's called Overrun. | ||
| You can get that on Amazon or in your bookstore, anywhere books are sold. | ||
| And you can follow me at BenzmanTodd at X. I'm also at Getter and Truth Social. | ||
| Go ahead and follow me there. | ||
| I'll post everything that I write. | ||
| And also, you know, I have a website where I post everything at Todd. | ||
| Todd, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| My employer is the Center for Immigration Studies, CIS.org. | ||
| Great organization. | ||
| They fund all of my travels and all of my reporting. | ||
| Couldn't do it without those guys, and donations as well. | ||
| Todd, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Now, when you talk about de-dollarization, not wanting to send more money to Ukraine, I think that's probably the strap line of the war room. | ||
| But this time, it's not me saying that. | ||
| It's actually a Nobel Prize winning economist. | ||
| Over at Yale University, believe it or not, warning that if the White House proceeds, sometimes they've sort of intimated that they may give seized Russian assets to Ukraine instead of more of our taxpayer dollars or probably both, that that would kind of accelerate us down the path of de-dollarization globally. | ||
| We've said many times here on this show, we're no longer in the phases or stages of managed decline. | ||
| It's accelerated decline, and the story sums it up. | ||
| quite nicely joining us to break it down as someone who has always been out of the curve on Ukraine, although I guess it's easy when you're not a part of the CIA, deep state, mainstream media, industrial complex. That is, of course, Ben Harnwell. Ben, if you could walk us through this story, what he's warning about, the ramifications, your thoughts. | ||
| Good morning, Natalie. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Well, many people will be familiar with this economist, even if they're not immediately familiar with his name. | ||
| Robert Shiller won the Nobel Prize for Economics back in 2013. | ||
| He gave his name to the Case-Shiller Index. | ||
| Which is part of the work he won the Nobel Prize for, which is an index on basically house prices pegged on 1990. | ||
| And if you ever read the economic financial reports, you will often see references to the Case-Shiller index. | ||
| So he's that rare breed, Natalie. | ||
| He is a Nobel, an economic Nobel Prize winner who has, I would say, named strong name recognition. | ||
| Even if people aren't that aware with the academic ins and outs of his various theses. | ||
| That said, what was his statement? | ||
| Well, he said that giving confiscated Russian assets to Ukraine would become, and I quote, a cataclysm for the current dollar-dominated economic system. | ||
| I think that this will destroy the halo of security that surrounds the dollar and will be the first step towards de-dollarization, exactly as you pointed out in your introduction, Natalie. | ||
| This is, you know, there's very little I need to add on to this because I think the words themselves are that alarming. | ||
| People should be taking note of them. | ||
| Incidentally, the Financial Times of London We did have a similar article just a couple of days before Christmas, arguing exactly against the seizure of Russian assets, Russian central bank assets. | ||
| We're talking approximately, Natalie, about 260 billion euros worth of assets here. | ||
| And not all of the European Union is on side with France and Germany, for example, are quite opposed to this behind closed doors. | ||
| The reason that they're doing this isn't so much because of de-dollarization or even de-euroization, to coin the term. | ||
| It's because of the precedent that this will send, will establish right across the world. | ||
| Because of course, if it's OK for the United States or Western nations who are part of the pro-Ukraine orbit. | ||
| If it's okay for these countries to seize, to permanently seize, not just to freeze, which is what happened basically within days of Russia's invasion into Ukraine, but not just freezing, to seize. | ||
| If they were to seize these central bank assets, then basically any country that has a gripe with any other country around the world could do exactly the same thing. | ||
| And it's easy to see from that how the precedent here And themselves are saying that this is an extension of what the West did with regards to sealing Iraqi assets back in, I think, 1991. | ||
| So this is another example, Natalie, of how bad precedents really do have ongoing consequences that will wreak damage right across the world. | ||
| I just want to close with this point, because I think it's illustrative. | ||
| This war was, you know, when the West came in behind Ukraine in February 2012, the war The whole point about this, the whole shtick, was to defend the international rules-based order. | ||
| And as the FT is suggesting here, as Robert Schiller is suggesting, Actually, if we're going to push this this far and seize the Russian central bank assets, that will actually do a massive undermining damage to the international rules-based order. | ||
| Far more, far more damage. | ||
| You know, Steve talks about this basically whenever we show the consequences of de-dollarization, not just for the United States, of course, but for all of the satellite economies that depend on the United States, that are in the United States orbit. | ||
| Far much more damage to the international rules-based order than simply letting Russia get away with annexing the Donbass in Ukraine. | ||
| So I think, you know, I do have some other stories to go through to you, but I know we're heading in towards a breakdown. | ||
| I just want to illustrate that this point is now not just being spoken about on the war end, this is now sort of the alarming concern, the threats, the worries are now very much in the mainstream discourse, Natalie. | ||
| Well, I'm just curious. | ||
| We focus obviously a lot on this show, the negotiations going on with Ukraine here in the U.S., but what's happening on the European front? | ||
| Other European countries, are they going to throw more basically to nothing, get no ROI on their investment? | ||
| Are they going to give more money to Ukraine? | ||
| Where does that battle stand? | ||
| Well, this is ongoing. | ||
| Just a couple of days ago, Viktor Orban, the prime minister of Hungary, in my mind, the most heroic of all the 27 EU member states. | ||
| He vetoed the European Union plan to give 51 billion euros of immediate assistance to He originally said he was going to veto the opening of accession talks with Ukraine. | ||
| He let that pass knowing, of course, that he would have, I think, 70 or so opportunities to veto that further down the line in the years and years long negotiations this is going to take. | ||
| But what he did do was he vetoed the EU budget, this emergency instrument to give The fallout of that vetoing, Natalie, is that Ukraine is starting to talk that it no longer has the money to pay its civil servants their pension payments. | ||
| salaries, which is a somewhat quixotic fixation. | ||
| And here the Deputy Prime Minister is insisting that it gets its hands on $37 billion worth of external support at ASAP. | ||
| Natalie, it's a somewhat quixotic fixation that you can't pay your civil servants when you're drafting young men to be blown to bits on the front line. | ||
| And Harman, we've got to run, but if people want to stay up to date with all your analysis and everything, where can they go to do that? | ||
| It's on Getter, which is my social platform of choice, Natalie. | ||
| Simply type in my surname, at Harnwell, on Getter. | ||
| Thanks so much, Natalie. | ||
| Of course, he's a must-follow for everything Ukraine and more. | ||
| Warren Posse, hang with me. | ||
| We got Dr. Wolf, we got Darren J. Beatty, we got Joe Allen. | ||
| What more could you want? | ||
| I don't know, maybe Stephen K. Bannon? | ||
| Well, you still got me. | ||
| We'll be back after this break with a lot more to go through. | ||
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♪♪ Welcome back to the War Room. | |
| I'm still getting used to the Christmas music and I'll probably just get used to it in time for Christmas time. | ||
| To be over, because we say Merry Christmas here in the War Room, sorry if that offends you. | ||
| Talking about seized assets, I don't know, de-dollarization and destroying America offends me, but real quick, you want to talk about seized assets? | ||
| How about the fact that the government, our very own government, has seized our taxpayer dollars, our pension funds? | ||
| There's a breaking story in Axios, again we've been saying this for a while here, on War Room, but that billions of dollars, that is 42 of 50 states, have invested That's right. | ||
| Companies based in China linked to a communist regime that is hell-bent on destroying the United States. | ||
| They admit it. | ||
| Look no further than CEFC China Energy. | ||
| Happens to be Hunter Biden's business partner. | ||
| I'm sure no conspiracies, no coincidences there. | ||
| On their webpage, they admit that they want to wage war on the United States. | ||
| And I don't know about you, but when you see people like Hunter Biden, representatives of the permanent political class, right? | ||
| Don't miss the forest for the trees. | ||
| Everyone in DC is on the take from the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And concurrently, you see your pension funds, your taxpayer dollars going to prop up that illegitimate communist regime. | ||
| Really makes you wonder. | ||
| When Joe Biden says, China's rise isn't our demise, although maybe he says it in a creepy whisper voice. | ||
| When they say our demise, they're not talking about people like you, me, average, everyday Americans. | ||
| They know that China's rise has been the biggest boon, not just to their pocketbooks, but to the way that they want to run and administer this country, which is replete with lawfare, really with power, authoritarian tactics that only the Chinese Communist Party Could Envy look no further than what's going on in Colorado? | ||
| Fun fact, or I should say not so fun fact, we've got a story breaking up on warroom.org. | ||
| The founder of Crew, that left-wing legal group, we'll have Darren Beatty joining us in a little bit to discuss. | ||
| Guess where she used to work and who she used to work for. | ||
| That's the same group that's responsible for taking Trump off of Colorado's ballot. | ||
| She used to work for Joe Biden. | ||
| Not kidding. | ||
| You can read the story. | ||
| It's the same group that's taking millions from George Soros. | ||
| And by the way, the founder also said in an interview that they want to make Colorado The model for other states. | ||
| So when you say we set out to change China and that's why we let them join the World Trade Organization, don't mind if I don't buy that line because it's pretty damn clear that it was the Chinese Communist Party that changed us. | ||
| For the worst, someone who has been Covering that for a while is, of course, Dr. Wolff watching these authoritarian, weird, oligarch types usher in their power and control, dystopian fantasies on this otherwise great country. | ||
| But Dr. Wolff, there's sort of an alarming story in the New York Post. | ||
| Thanks to the efforts of Heritage Foundation's Oversight Committee, they're suing because they're accusing the CIA of hiding records that show potentially that the CIA paid analysts to say that COVID-19 developed, not at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, but developed naturally. | ||
| People may recall, this is a story back in September, six of the seven investigators at the CIA said that COVID developed at the Wuhan lab. | ||
| There was one who didn't. | ||
| That was, of course, the theory that they ran with. | ||
| But even more sinister, there's now allegations from a congressional committee, from a whistleblower, that they actually paid those six investigators to change their opinions. | ||
| Dr. Wolff, as someone who has tracked the origins of COVID very closely and all the sort of power play dynamics that have come on the heels of it, what are your thoughts? | ||
| It's stunning. | ||
| Imagine the courage of that whistleblower. | ||
| Um, and look at where we are in the demise of this formerly great republic that we're investigating the treasonous behavior essentially of our own, you know, most senior intelligence agencies. | ||
| I mean, I always like to take the big picture and the big picture here is it goes along with the open border because | ||
| Something has happened to our intelligence agencies that they can be so corrupted, and that they can be so corrupted as to cover the unleashing upon the entire globe of a virus that killed millions, or at least was the pretext for sending people into death and starvation through lockdowns and closures of businesses and so on, you know, for two years. | ||
| And they're Our own intelligence agencies are covering up the misdeeds of our most existential enemy. | ||
| I mean, it's like if in the 50s during the Cold War, you found out that the, you know, a whole tranche of the intelligence agencies were covering up for Russia unleashing a deadly attack on the West. | ||
| It's unimaginable. | ||
| It's extraordinary. | ||
| I mean, even kind of individual Intelligence workers who were assets of the communists were sent to prison for, you know, decades when they were found to have abetted or assisted the enemy. | ||
| So it's mind blowing. | ||
| And I guess it also, big picture, we need to think of the state of vulnerability in which we find ourselves with the combination of the open border, military age men pouring in. | ||
| Since you and I last talked, there have been reports that These men are being sent, kind of deployed into strategic locations, and combine that with evidence. | ||
| If this came to light, what else is happening at the level of the CIA that we don't know about? | ||
| What domestic leaders, for example, are being surveilled or targeted unlawfully that we don't know about, whose railroading would benefit China, for example? | ||
| or benefit other enemies of whom we might not even be aware. | ||
| I mean, it basically means if China can buy our CIA operatives or officers at these high levels, or even at low levels, you know, Qatar can buy them, Ukraine can buy them, you know, Russia can buy them. | ||
| I mean, it means that no one is protecting us essentially. | ||
| And so we are wholly compromised. | ||
| I always thought the saying, trust the experts, was actually some sort of weird, kind of sadistic, cheeky play because the experts, they are experts in COVID-19, but only because they helped create it, right? | ||
| Like the Chinese Communist Party and these so-called public health officials and public health experts, Anthony Fauci is probably the best example of it. | ||
| Yeah, I guess in some ways he is an expert on COVID-19 because he quite literally used our taxpayer dollars to fund The creation of it. | ||
| It's sort of an ironic twist to the saying, even though we don't trust the experts here in the world. | ||
| I don't know if you saw, we opened the show with that now pretty viral clip from Catherine Herridge, basically predicting some sort of black swan event in 2024. | ||
| Dare I say a little bit of predictive programming, but I'm just curious, you know, I think you really have always provided the war room with sort of a wonderful, you know, bird's eye view of all the, as the World Economic Forum would say, poly crises, right? Whether it's public health and pandemics, the open border and immigration, climate change, you name it. | ||
| I'm just curious your thoughts on that clip, what you think about the potential for an event like that, where you think they're going to kind of go with the narrative in 2024. | ||
| I mean, you know, all those memes, Natalie, on social media that kind of admit that the craziest conspiracy theories have come true. | ||
| I used to think only insane people believed that the global evildoers let the world know what they were planning to do before they did it or engaged in, you know, you mentioned predictive programming, but it does seem as if | ||
| I mean, I've been in rooms, you know, very, very senior people from Harvard, China funded think tank saying definitively to a group of New York influencers, for sure, there will be another pandemic for sure. | ||
| And this is the mantra for sure. | ||
| There will be another pandemic. | ||
| And, you know, Natalie, history doesn't work that way. | ||
| The history of epidemics and infectious diseases doesn't work that way. | ||
| You can have centuries without a plague-type event, and it's literally impossible to predict. | ||
| And even the word pandemic is a fairly recent coinage, right? | ||
| And its meaning, its definitions have changed. | ||
| Point is, if Someone announced that there would be a black swan event in 2024. | ||
| It gives me chills because it's either a distraction. | ||
| There's going to be some scary distraction in 2024 that will be narrated as a black swan event. | ||
| Well, what is really underway, like a 15 minute city deployment or a global biometric surveillance deployment or a central bank digital currency deployment. | ||
| Well, you know, the dollar collapses. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| But I don't like it and I don't like, again, these are the kinds of things that only tinfoil hatters used to worry about. | ||
| I don't like that, you know, a handful of the most elite insiders are buying up massive tranches of farmland and building underground bunkers. | ||
| You know, I don't like that. | ||
| When you look at, I always, you know, say to Steve and, you know, now to you that my years as a political consultant led me to reason backwards when I look at history. | ||
| Look at the events and reason backwards to, you know, who might this benefit? | ||
| And if the event is multiple, very wealthy people buying up farmland in Maui and New Zealand and creating some sort of prepper paradise. | ||
| I don't I don't like that because these people don't spend money like that for no reason. | ||
| So I think 2024 is going to be Chaotic. | ||
| But I think the end of 2020, yeah, I think 2024 is going to be chaotic because of the election. | ||
| I think it's if we were if I were betting right with you, I would say that there is literally an 80 to 90 percent chance of some catastrophic, quote, event or catastrophic narrative of an event in October of next year because of the election, because who do they have to take out President You know, I don't mean physically. | ||
| Whom do they have to challenge effectively President Trump? | ||
| They're looking at a Trump, you know, resurgency and that means jail sentences for so many people. | ||
| That means collapses in fortunes for so many people, investigations for so many people. | ||
| Why would they let that happen? | ||
| And I don't think the opposition thinks that mail-in ballots are enough anymore and, you know, whatever shenanigans they engaged in with the machines are enough anymore to derail the lead that President Trump has. | ||
| I mean, these things are all connected, of course, Natalie. | ||
| You know, I think the movement of African-Americans to Republicans, the movement of suburban moms to Republicans is terrifying the opposition. | ||
| So why would a narrative of a catastrophe of some kind not present itself? | ||
| So I think you're right to worry, and we bought a lot of dehydrated food. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| My New Year's resolution is no pandemics, no more climate change lockdowns, no mask mandates, and no more predictive programming. | ||
| Dr. Rav, I'll hold you through the break, but if you could give us a little bit, I hear you have a wonderful piece on the war on Christmas, also waged by these same elites, but your thoughts. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do I have time to show that now? | ||
| Yes, you can start. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| I'll start. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, on a happier note, right? | ||
| The Saving Grace, I think, is that they try to roll out the Black Swan event. | ||
| I think a lot of people aren't buying it. | ||
| Like, they try to roll out the new COVID strains, and people just didn't buy that product, right? | ||
| So this is related to propagandizing that people are resisting now, I'm glad to see, and that's the war on Christmas and Hanukkah. | ||
| Basically, I was writing an essay for Substack, which is kind of an elegy for the Christmases of my childhood, and then I found out what had caused the attack on Christmas. | ||
| And why don't I hold you there, a little bit of a teaser. | ||
| People can join us after the break. | ||
| So got Joe Kent, Darren Beatty, Joe Allen, Mike Lindell, and maybe a little bit of breaking news from yours truly when we come back from the break. | ||
| But we got also, like I said, a very important story that we got to hear from Darren J. Beatty on on the lawfare angle, the lawfare element, the election interference. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| That's what's going on in Colorado. | ||
| Having to do with someone named, remember this guy? | ||
| Norm Eisen. | ||
| Remember him from 2020? | ||
| 20. Well he's back and we'll be back. | ||
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| I know they're working on the latest edition, but get the first four while you still can. | ||
| They're great reads, at least according to a lot of people I spoke to at AmFest, but I feel like it's probably an appropriate time to bring it up now. You can probably see My shirt, misinformation. | ||
| You guys know we were crowned in February of this year the number one spreader of misinformation. | ||
| Round of applause. | ||
| That's always a good thing to be called, but I am actually launching a USA-made clothing brand. | ||
| Sorry to the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| I wanted to actually put some action, action, action behind my lifelong quest and goal. | ||
| To take down the CCP. | ||
| So there's a host of designs and styles that are, of course, catering to you guys, the Warren Posse, and people who think for themselves and don't just buy the mainstream media's narrative at face value. | ||
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| Like I said, the Chinese Communist Party is hardest hit. | ||
| Also hardest hit are the global elites because Dr. Wolfe is catching and calling them out on their lies. | ||
| Dr. Wolfe, if you want to pick up where you left off on the war on Christmas and your thoughts on it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And congratulations, Natalie. | ||
| That is awesome. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| Well, so I was remembering in the sixties when I was tiny and the seventies that Christmas was unabashedly Religious. | ||
| I mean, there were Christmas carols in department stores. | ||
| There were creches. | ||
| There were, you know, stars. | ||
| And I'm Jewish and I wasn't offended. | ||
| It was Christmas for everybody. | ||
| And we shared Hanukkah songs and Christmas songs and we all learned from each other. | ||
| And it was very, very joyful. | ||
| And then everything, I did notice that like pop culture changed in the 80s to have more like dark Santas and bad Santas and kind of discord in families subtly. | ||
| But then in 1989, everything changed. | ||
| And then into the 90s, Christmas was gone. | ||
| You had to say happy holidays and you couldn't say Merry Christmas and all the crushes vanished. | ||
| And I kind of was looking back and then things got really bad in the early 20th, I'm sorry, early 21st century with kind of vomiting Santas and Santa Con and kind of the Christ story being completely marginalized. | ||
| and no more religious carols anywhere. | ||
| And I traced the history of that. | ||
| But I thought, what changed it? | ||
| Because again, culture doesn't move that abruptly. | ||
| And there was a turning point in the war on Christmas. | ||
| In 1989, the ACLU, which again, I used to think were the good guys, they took aim, engaged in lawfare against the people of Allegheny for the town court displaying a creche inside the court and a gigantic menorah. | ||
| Put out there by Chabad, the Jewish organization, outside the courthouse. | ||
| And the lawsuit led to the court's decision about this situation that said the inside one was illegal, but the outside one wasn't illegal or unconstitutional. | ||
| So to me, that just seems weird. | ||
| I'm Jewish. | ||
| Why not just move everything outside and invite other religious displays? | ||
| But I looked up the Establishment Clause of the Constitution, which is supposed to be the clause of the Constitution that monitors how the state talks about religion. | ||
| In there, the first result was this website called Legal Information Institute. | ||
| And it claimed that the Establishment Clause is meant to prevent the state from engaging with religion. | ||
| Well, then I clicked to find, while I still can, the text of the Constitution. | ||
| And it doesn't say that at all! | ||
| It doesn't say that at all! | ||
| The First Amendment, Establishment Clause, says that the state shouldn't interfere with the free expression of religion, or make any law interfere with the free expression of religion. | ||
| So these religious displays outside of courthouses outside of libraries, the creches, the menorahs, the religious carols, they are protected by the Establishment Clause. | ||
| So basically the court got it wrong, the ACLU made a wrong decision to go after these people, and then I clicked through further and found out that Chinese money, always China, China, China, was going to Cornell University which established this website which was misinterpreting the Establishment Clause in order to allow the erasure of religion and to get us to forget | ||
| that in fact our Constitution protects the free expression everywhere of all religion, It keeps the state from affirming a single religion, but you are free to put your creche outside, to put your menorah outside, You know, your town is free to put Santa up, you know, outside the post office. | ||
| I mean, basically the war on Christmas and Hanukkah, because the fact that a menorah was targeted as well has been lost to history, right? | ||
| The people of Allegheny were celebrating, you know, multiple religions. | ||
| They were celebrating the freedom of all of their people, not just Christians, to worship and celebrate the time as they saw fit. | ||
| That turning point in 1989 allowed for the erasure of Christmas and what we're seeing now, the erasure of Hanukkah even. | ||
| We're seeing, like, school plays can't mention the nativity. | ||
| You know, half of the schools in Britain no longer have their nativity plays, which is this decades-long British tradition. | ||
| You're not supposed to say, you're not supposed to mention Christmas at all. | ||
| You're not supposed to mention Hanukkah. | ||
| You're supposed to say Happy Holidays, which is now morphing into, you know, Winterfest or, you know, the winter season. | ||
| This started out as a war on our culture, on our tradition, on our Western Judeo-Christian tradition, and now funded by China, this cultural war is trying to get us to forget the very underpinnings of religious freedom in our country in order to wipe religious expression. | ||
| And that was what I learned for Christmas. | ||
| That is quite the niche take that I think you'd only get here in the War Room, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. | ||
| If people want to follow you, we've got to jump to break, get the books, get everything, where can they go to do all that? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
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| Dr. Wolf, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
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