Dec. 23, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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O come, O come, Emmanuel And ransom captive Israel That mourns in lonely exile here Until the Son of God appear | |
| Rejoice! | ||
| Emmanuel shall come to thee, O Israel! | ||
| O come, thou dayspring, come and cheer the spirits by thine advent here. | ||
| the gloomy clouds of night, and death's dark shadows move to | ||
| to fight, rejoice, rejoice! Emmanuel shall come to thee, O Israel. | ||
| O come, thou King of David, come, and open wide our heavenly home. | ||
| Make safe the way that leads on high, and close the path to misery. | ||
| Rejoice, rejoice! | ||
| Emmanuel shall come to thee, O Israel. | ||
| It's Saturday, 23 December in the year of our Lord. | ||
| I want to welcome you here. | ||
| This is our Saturday show but also our Christmas Eve special which we do every year. | ||
| I want to thank Real America's Voice for making this happen with a great team in Denver. | ||
| Also my own production team and particularly Avery who's been selecting music for us as he does every year during the Christmas season. | ||
| I want to thank everybody. | ||
| Dr. Carol Swain is our guest for the first couple of segments here. | ||
| Dr. Swain, you've been in the news a lot recently, but here on Christmas Eve, really, it's your knowledge as a historian, and we had this discussion the other day about the music and about the beauty of the music of the particularly 17th, 18th, and 19th century, and it seemed like when you hear these You hear these hymns or you hear some of the English, the complexity of the English hymns. | ||
| You have a civilization, a culture that is confident in itself. | ||
| The music is crisp. | ||
| The music is complex, but the music has an underlying confidence to it and almost a swagger to a degree. | ||
| Right about there. | ||
| They're very confident in their society and their civilization. | ||
| Do you think what happens? | ||
| One thing I can tell you, we're not we're not confident about our culture and civilization. | ||
| Your thoughts, ma'am. | ||
| I would agree that today, even when you go to many of the churches, some of the traditional churches, they have moved away from the hymns, they have newer music, they may play secular music, and it is distressing for us who have so many memories attached to the traditional songs. | ||
| And I find the traditional songs, you know, deeply emotional, emotionally moving. | ||
| And I also would like to share with you and your audience, this will be my first Christmas without my mother. | ||
| And my mother loved Christmas and I always decorated for her. | ||
| And so this Christmas, I'm not decorating at my house. | ||
| I will be leaving to spend Christmas with some of my great-grandchildren. | ||
| But, you know, my mother, despite poverty, she loved Christmas and we always celebrated with the hymns. | ||
| Talk to me about that, because, and this is about your whole, and I think it's why you're such a beloved figure for our audience, is that your struggle and your work, but tell us about your mom and growing up, because you guys were in poverty with an extremely large family. | ||
| What was Christmas like? | ||
| Really having no money or virtually no money, what was Christmas like? | ||
| Well, we would go into the woods near our home and cut a tree. | ||
| And my mother would, and the children would make the decorations. | ||
| And we had tinsel, as well as, you know, paper strips, all kinds of things. | ||
| We'd decorate the tree. | ||
| And for Christmas, usually we got a bag with an orange, some candy, and nuts. | ||
| And many times not gifts. | ||
| I complained for years about the Easy Bake Oven and the Paint-By-Number set I never received as a child. | ||
| And then finally one of my friends about two years ago gave me a very intricate Paint-By-Number set that I completed last Christmas. | ||
| I can tell you that my mother, despite all that poverty, she always loved Christmas. | ||
| She lived with me the last 13 years of her life, and she passed January 23rd. | ||
| And so, I can't hear the Christmas music without tearing up. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Why do you think it is that the modern church, why do you believe they've gotten away? | ||
| I mean, this music, and I'm not talking about the secular music, which is the secular music is some of the best music out of the American playbook, songbook. | ||
| But when you talk about some of these classic hymns, the level of beauty of the human voice, even with that musical accompaniment, is just magnificent. | ||
| Why do you think we've gotten away from that? | ||
| I mean, the worship of the hymns is so powerful for everyone. | ||
| And I think we've gotten away from it because we just lost the wonder. | ||
| And the hymns taught so much, you know, theology and biblical knowledge. | ||
| And the hymns came straight from the Bible. | ||
| And the Bible mostly has been deconstructed and marginalized. | ||
| And you find in many churches you're lucky if you hear one hymn. | ||
| People think they can improve on everything and I think that it's unfortunate. | ||
| But our secular world has influenced the church, and just like we have forgotten in America some things we once knew, I think the church in America has forgotten things it once knew. | ||
| And it once knew that the hymns were so powerful for teaching the gospel, but also for telling the biblical stories. | ||
| When you talk about great awakenings, you talk about the importance of the church in American history. | ||
| Can we have an awakening or can we have these moments where America stepped up in the kind of these great fourth turnings, the American Revolution, the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War II, and clearly the time of turbulence we're in now. | ||
| Can you have a great awakening if at first you don't have that kind of vanguard of the church which goes through an awakening? | ||
| I believe it's going to take a catastrophic event impacting America or the world for people to begin to turn around because there's so many of our fellow, not just fellow Americans, but fellow human beings who seem to be dazed. | ||
| They're totally deceived. | ||
| And to break that deception, it has to be something dramatic enough to get their attention. | ||
| And we know that in this world with so much coming at us, it's very hard to focus. | ||
| And to get to know God, you have to focus. | ||
| You have to take time, you know, to read his words. | ||
| You have to take time to reflect on his word. | ||
| You have to take time to listen to those hymns and to meditate and allow them, you know, to sink in. | ||
| And so I'm hoping that This Christmas Eve that people will make time to go to churches where they play traditional music. | ||
| They have traditional Christmas Eve services and just bask in the wonder of the birth of our Savior because a lot of those things is what we need. | ||
| I believe to heal our own souls, but our nation needs healing and the nations of the world need healing and Christians For most of, you know, for much of our history, we have been a positive force in the world. | ||
| There are lots of things that you can read about how Christians failed during the time of Nazi Germany. | ||
| They certainly failed. | ||
| And during the time that certain things happened to blacks, there were some churches that failed. | ||
| But for the most part, Christians in the world have been a positive force. | ||
| And the Christians who do make a positive impact are the ones that not only know the Word of God, but they know that there is a Holy Spirit. | ||
| They know that, you know, that we are not You know, we don't know enough to try to run everything or to try to rework the world or to try to save the planet. | ||
| And I would like to see people just go back to that awareness that we as human beings are not that smart. | ||
| When we start mucking around with things, we mess it up. | ||
| And you look at academia and just how they took something. | ||
| Most of the great universities were started By churches for the training of ministers, you know, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, all of these great universities, I believe something like maybe 116 of the first 120 higher education universities and colleges in America were founded by people who were Christians. | ||
| Those organizations have been destroyed and they've been destroyed because people did not protect them. | ||
| If you just mentioned Princeton and Harvard, let's take both examples. | ||
| At Princeton, when you were tenured, and you talked about this at the wine and cheese party afterwards, if you talked about your deep-felt Christian beliefs, which was really at the core of your being, how would you be, what would the faculty think about you? | ||
| Do you think they would actually grant you, not just your PhD, do you think they would give you tenure if they knew about your deep-held Christian beliefs? | ||
| Wouldn't they thought, Dr. Sweeney's very smart, she's a great political scientist, but she believes this kind of crazy myth And no serious person can be tenured here that believes that crazy myth? | ||
| Well, first of all, I earned my Ph.D. | ||
| at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill in 1989, and Princeton recruited me aggressively. | ||
| And the faculty members who were most impressed with me were the conservatives. | ||
| I was a Democrat at the time. | ||
| I've never been a stupid Democrat, and back during the 1980s, 1990s, Democrats had common sense. | ||
| They were not all crazy. | ||
| But I came on as a new faculty member. | ||
| I was given a signing bonus, and my work cut against the grain, but I was not a Christian believer. | ||
| I was a spiritual person. | ||
| I didn't attend church. | ||
| I was not a threat to anyone because I believed in good scholarship. | ||
| And my first book won three national prizes, including the highest prize a political scientist can win. | ||
| It was cited by the U.S. | ||
| Supreme Court and many lower court decisions. | ||
| And so, for a while, I basked in a lot of accolades from The many of the people who were elites, the black faculty and black people have always had problems with me and my research because I didn't go through their ranks. | ||
| So they I don't know what Princeton would have done. | ||
| If they would have tenured me, if I had been openly Christian, I like to believe that if my scholarship was the same scholarship, it would not have mattered because many of the people making the decisions were classical liberals. | ||
| And classical liberals believe in free speech and thought. | ||
| So I like to believe that they would have. | ||
| But later, when I had my Christian conversion experience, that was towards the end of my time At Princeton. | ||
| And as I grew in my faith, I became more and more conservative. | ||
| And as you become more and more conservative, you become more and more obnoxious to the left. | ||
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But by then they had given me, they had given me that. | |
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to, we're putting music out today. | ||
| It tells a story of Christmas Eve. | ||
| Dr. Swain is going to join us after a short commercial break. | ||
| an amazing story from quite frankly one of the most amazing Americans out there, Dr. | ||
| Carol Swain. | ||
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The honeybees are blossom, as white as the lily flower, and very sweet, she's a nice | |
| little bee. | ||
| She's a beautiful little bee. | ||
| It's Saturday, the eve of Christmas Eve. | ||
| We're doing a Christmas Eve special as everyone will get off on Sunday this year, the traditional Christmas Eve. | ||
| We'll have our Christmas special. | ||
| Remember, every year we do the Combat History of Christmas to talk about American patriots that gave the ultimate sacrifice, whether Trenton, with General Washington in 1776 or 1944 at Bastogne, the Battle of the Bulge, or at Chosin Reservoir in the Korean War and others. | ||
| We'll also go to the Civil War this year. | ||
| All of it. | ||
| Patrick K. O'Connell will join me. | ||
| So Dr. Swain, tell people about your Christian conversion, because you've been raised, I think, by a religious mother and you were spiritual, but then you rose to the top of academia on your own merits. | ||
| But talk about your Christian conversion and did that affect, did that impact the way that you were accepted in kind of the secular world of academia? | ||
| I was actually raised in a home that we would consider unchurched. | ||
| We only went to church I can only remember two or three times in my early life, but I had a grandmother who was a pastor's daughter, and I believe that she taught us, you know, the Lord's Prayer. | ||
| I knew certain things about Christianity. | ||
| And I got involved for a while with Jehovah's Witnesses, and then I left religion for 20-some years. | ||
| So when Princeton hired me, I was more of an agnostic. | ||
| I was spiritual. | ||
| I eventually studied New Age and Eastern religions, and I was kind of out there until I had a Christian conversion experience late in my life. | ||
| By late, I mean it was in my 40s. | ||
| That I started having experiences that led me to seek again, and it culminated with the Christian conversion experience, probably around my mid-40s. | ||
| And I have been devout ever since. | ||
| And I used to be painfully shy, so shy that if someone asked me my name, I'd forget it. | ||
| I had an opportunity to be on Good Morning America. | ||
| I turned it down because I was afraid. | ||
| And after I had the conversion experience, God impressed on my mind that He had given me a message bigger than me and that He was the only person I had to please. | ||
| And so I started doing media. | ||
| And Lou Dobbs, at the time, Lou Dobbs Tonight, he was the one that gave me my first national TV break in 2007. | ||
| I was a paid contributor for CNN, and Lou said he would give me a megaphone for my voice. | ||
| I was not very good, but I was saying things that no one else was saying. | ||
| What was it about Christianity coming into your life and accepting our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as your Savior that changed you as a person in the outside world? | ||
| You know something? | ||
| My whole life never made sense to me as to why of the 12 children I was the only one that got out as far as getting out of poverty. | ||
| And as a child, I had early adulthood several times in my life, at least three. | ||
| I had strangers come up to me to tell me I would be famous someday. | ||
| And it was nothing that made sense to me, but I always felt a sense of urgency that that was something I was supposed to do. | ||
| So I knew that something larger than me was guiding my life, but I was not ready to say Jesus Christ. | ||
| I was able to say one God many paths and that there are things we don't understand. | ||
| But again, God revealed himself to me in a dramatic way. | ||
| I am working on an autobiography that hopefully I will get out, get it done sometime next year. | ||
| And I would tell my story and there are many, many spiritual, supernatural aspects to my life that I can only attribute to God. | ||
| I believe that he raised me up. | ||
| He gave me my story, not for me, but for me to share with the world. | ||
| And he took away my fear of public speaking. | ||
| And I had a dramatic experience in a hospital in 1997. | ||
| And I would say God took away a fear of death. | ||
| And that is why I can be bold because I know that we're all going to die. | ||
| When I do die, I want it to camp for something. | ||
| I want it to make an impact in the world. | ||
| And so I can't live in fear. | ||
| And that's why I can challenge the left. | ||
| I can challenge these forces of evil. | ||
| I know that, you know, I could be killed at any time. | ||
| I know that about all the evil in the world, but I know that God has a plan and purpose for my life and that when I leave this earth, my work will be done. | ||
| It will be done because I will have completed it, but I believe that God has the ability to protect me until the work is finished. | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes here, and I know you've got to go, and I want to thank you so much for sharing Christmas Eve, or Saturday before Christmas Eve, but for our special. | ||
| After you were a child, because you came from hard poverty and so just had these very simple things of Christmas, but later on when you were successful in the material world, how is Christmas today different now that you've been saved by our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and you've accepted Him into your heart than it was when you were materialistically very successful but living with a different center of gravity? | ||
| I mean, I did not do a lot of celebration of Christmas until after I had my Christian conversion experience and I became involved with the church and when my mother came to live with me because that was her holiday. | ||
| And I like the fact that the season forces us to think about Christ, His birth, His coming into the world, and how He changed the world. | ||
| And it gives us an opportunity to pause For a few days, and that is something that is important to me. | ||
| All of us are so busy, but to take the time to pause and then as far as people out there who watch your show and some of them, I'm sure conservatives. | ||
| who are atheists or secular humanists. | ||
| They don't believe that there is a God. | ||
| I really hope that those people will actually give themselves an opportunity to reflect on Christianity and how it's impact impacted our lives over the centuries. | ||
| And I have always challenged unbelievers to for them to just ask the simple question. | ||
| To ask God to give them, if you're real, sincerely ask this question, if you are real, then give me what I need to believe. | ||
| Because God has a way of getting your attention. | ||
| He gets your attention in dramatic ways if you're sincere. | ||
| Dr. Swain, you've got a new site now. | ||
| You're putting up analysis and columns all the time. | ||
| You're obviously in the news non-stop, and you've got this book that really is of the moment. | ||
| How do people get to all of it? | ||
| I want to make sure over this Christmas period, when people are getting some downtime, that they spend some time with you and your writings. | ||
| Where do they go? | ||
| Well, they can go to any of my websites. | ||
| One is carolmswayne.com and, you know, click on the book link. | ||
| If you want to know more about me, read the bio. | ||
| And then I have bbethepeoplenews.com and I post my media appearances, such as this interview will be posted there at some point. | ||
| And I am very, very active on Twitter. | ||
| Today, Well, I'm just active on Twitter, and so if people want to know what I'm up to, they can go there. | ||
| During the holidays, I plan to limit myself, hopefully, to my daily devotionals. | ||
| About six weeks ago, I started posting daily devotionals. | ||
| I plan to do that throughout the holiday, and I believe that That is my ministry now, that I just don't want to focus on politics because if you just focus on politics, it's so distressing. | ||
| I also don't believe that politics alone can solve our nation's problems or the world's problems, that we really do need a spiritual revival. | ||
| Europe needs a spiritual revival. | ||
| America needs one. | ||
| The Middle East needs one. | ||
| Human beings don't have the ability or the capacity to solve the world's problems. | ||
| They can only make them worse. | ||
| Dr. Swain, you're a hero to this audience, so Merry Christmas. | ||
| Thank you so much for doing this, and we look forward to seeing you. | ||
| Merry Christmas. | ||
| Thank you for having me on. | ||
| Maybe before the New Year ends, or if not, shortly thereafter. | ||
| So thank you very much, ma'am. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| When Dr. Carol Swain says we need a spiritual renewal, pay attention. | ||
| One of the smartest women in our country. | ||
| Okay, we're going to go out with more great Christmas music. | ||
| I'll be back in just a moment. | ||
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♪ O'er the mountain following yonder star, ooooh. | |
| Star of wonder, star of night, star with royal beauty bright, Westward leading, still proceeding, guide us to thy perfect light. | ||
| I'm a king on Bethlehem's plain, gold I bring to crown him again. | ||
| King forever, ceasing never, over us all to reign. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Star of wonder, star of night, star with royal beauty bright. | ||
| Tomorrow shall be my dancing day. | ||
| I would my true love dance or chant or sing a legend of my way. | ||
| To call my true love to my dance, sing, O my love, O my love, my love, my love. | ||
| This have I done for my true love. | ||
| Then once I owned a virgin pure. | ||
| Of her I chose the she-sus dance. | ||
| Of sports I missed to pass nature. | ||
| To call my true love to my dance, sing, O my love, O my love, my love, my love. | ||
| This have I done for my true love. | ||
| In a manger laid and wrapped I was. | ||
| So very port is caused by chance. | ||
| It breaks the locks and seals for us. | ||
| To call my true love to my dance, sing, O my love, O my love, my love, my love. | ||
| This have I done for my true love. | ||
| Then after words and ties I was. | ||
| The holy ghost of me he danced. | ||
| My mother's voice a drama. | ||
| To call my true love to my dance, sing, O my love, O my love, my love, my love. | ||
| You hear the confidence in that. | ||
| You hear the boldness in that. | ||
| That's just not simply human voices in a Christmas carol. | ||
| That's a culture, a civilization, a society. | ||
| that believes in itself. | ||
| We had this just amazing, amazing discussion the other day that I want to play. | ||
| It takes a couple of minutes, but I had Rahim and Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan used to be my editor-in-chief at Breitbart London, now runs National Pulse, was one of the original co-hosts of War Room Impeachment. | ||
| We got Ben Harnwell, who is one of the brightest guys I know, is the head of our editor of all things international out of Rome, and of course Dave Brat from Liberty University, former congressman, another really brilliant guy. | ||
| We got into a very interesting conversation and discussion about music. | ||
| I want to play that in its entirety. | ||
| It takes a couple of minutes. | ||
| I'll come back on the other side. | ||
| I'm gonna bring in all three. | ||
| Don't those... | ||
| The carols, and we can play hundreds of these, but from the 19th century, maybe the early 20th, but definitely from the 18th and 19th century, don't they show a culture that's confident in themselves, these complex and beautiful... I'll start with Rahim and then I want to hear Brett and Ben before we get down to the more mundane topics of geopolitics and money. | ||
| Rahim, first, that's one of the reasons I love the Christmas season. You play these carols that are just absolutely incredible. Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, well not just that, and you're absolutely right about that, but they also show more than about the nation but about the civilization. | ||
| This was a hymn that was constructed off the back of a 300-year-old Finnish poem, I think it was, that itself went on the back of another 300-year-old song that was being sung. | ||
| That was predicated on the story of a 10th century Bohemian king, King Wenceslaus. | ||
| And of course, not to put a lump of coal in the stocking, as Andy Big said last night, but the only statue to Saint Wenceslas now in the world is in Prague. | ||
| And unfortunately, we have terrible news coming out of Prague this morning with what's happening there. | ||
| And that is kind of everything coming home, right? | ||
| The chickens coming home to roost because That's where it started, that's how it started, that's what it sounded like, and the carnage today is quite some way away from that. | ||
| We'll come back to that in a moment. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, your thoughts? | ||
| I think Rahim said what I was thinking. | ||
| It shows a confidence in a civilization, a confidence in a culture, when you go back and listen to these. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| Steve, I mean, that's absolutely right. | ||
| You don't really get four-part music now at all, not for popular consumption. | ||
| You basically just have a melody, and a melody that's at the top, then you have harmonic progression needed. | ||
| You don't really have four separate parts moving, as you would do in sort of church hymns from around the Wesleyan period. | ||
| But you know, look, People have been lamenting the decline of culture, specifically on the point you just mentioned, for centuries. | ||
| There was a lot of scholastic concern when we moved from the Baroque period into the Classical period, because you had the four-part harmonic writing counterpoint von Bach and then in the classical period of Haydn and Mozart it's basically just the form of popular music today, melody and then sort of block harmonies beneath it. So yes, look, yes, absolutely right, there's a confidence, | ||
| almost a swagger even, a swagger, confidence in the art, the artistry. | ||
| Because this, Steve, let's be honest, this idiom here that we're talking about, this represents the zenith of the Western, the Judeo-Christian, Western classical tradition. | ||
| And that has been declining for centuries. | ||
| Really, if you compare modern, you know, by the way, what we call high art today was popular culture a couple of centuries ago. | ||
| This really illustrates how far we've declined. | ||
| And of course, you know, just picking off now what Rahim was saying about the tragedy at the university, in Prague today. | ||
| As these trends continue, we're going to be watching with open mouths just how much further we have to fall in the grand abasement of Western civilization. | ||
| Dave Brat, your thoughts from Liberty? | ||
| Great to follow up my two friends with the English accents. | ||
| Tough act to follow. | ||
| But Jordan Peterson has been getting at this as well and shows that music, our language at the deep psychological deepest levels comes out of music, from music. | ||
| Music, of course, is probably considered the highest of the arts. | ||
| The range of controlling the emotions and leading us to new heights that's built into music conveys what science and scientism cannot convey, and that's the grandeur of God. | ||
| And so, as we approach Christmas season, we're confronted with the infinite God Almighty, the God of wrath and the God of love, the God of law, the God of liberty, Embedding himself in man, God becoming man in a child, Jesus born in a manger, the highest becoming the lowest. | ||
| These are metaphysical claims of the highest order. | ||
| The modern world is missing out on all of this and the music harkens back to the great day when we had this confidence. | ||
| What more confidence can you have than knowing that God Almighty Up in the heavens has come to earth because he loves you that much and that part of God shines in you, right? | ||
| That his light is in you. | ||
| If that doesn't give you a boost every day and if that doesn't give you confidence and there are mysteries that are embedded in this narrative. | ||
| It's not simple, right? | ||
| Blessed are the peacemakers. | ||
| But St. | ||
| Augustine says if the innocents are getting hurt, it's time to go to war, right? | ||
| There are all sorts of what appear to be contradictions, but the story of the Bible and the narrative of the Bible overwhelms and transcends those man-made contradictions. | ||
| God's system is not our own. | ||
| It comes in a story, in simple stories that Jesus told, and boy, does music help to tell that story. | ||
| It's one of the reasons we play so much Christmas music during this holiday season. | ||
| It's one of the best parts of this time of year, I think, is that with all the family around and friends and the holiday get-togethers and the parties and obviously the football, you can steal some time away for yourself just to maybe read and think. | ||
| And we think that's obviously a very important part. | ||
| And it's what makes, I think, the War Room posse. | ||
| In this political movement that we've built, and really cultural movement. | ||
| The movement, and this is what I keep saying about President Trump, it's just not a political movement. | ||
| It's also a cultural movement. | ||
| The culture and civilization, we still are that culture and civilization. | ||
| We just have to have as enough confidence in ourselves as in our culture and our society and our civilization. | ||
| They're the enemies of this nation. | ||
| Go out of the way to try to break that down every day. | ||
| To try to have you question, try to attack the family. | ||
| This is what we talk about Neo-Marxism or Cultural Marxism, what Mao did to the family in the Cultural Revolution. | ||
| You know, break the four olds. | ||
| Always go after traditions, go after ways of being, all of it. | ||
| To attack relentlessly. | ||
| It's what we're trying to, as we man the ramparts and go on offenses, make sure that we also protect. | ||
| We will get back to one day to being as confident as you hear those voices on this amazing music from the 17th, 18th, and 19th century. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| It's one of the things over the holidays and we continue to play. | ||
| Remember, we play Christmas music. | ||
| Through Christmas Day and through the week leading up to January 1st. | ||
| I haven't really been able to do it all the way to Epiphany. | ||
| My mom always kept the tree and all the decorations. | ||
| I mean, she didn't want to take it down after Christmas. | ||
| Richmond, Virginia can get a little drab in January and February. | ||
| Not the best months. | ||
| We're going to leave you with some music, some incredibly beautiful music now. | ||
| I want to thank everybody for tuning in, spending Saturday with us, and hopefully Christmas Eve with us also. | ||
| We know you have a lot of last-minute shopping and running around and seeing people. | ||
| If you're in the car listening to us on radio, if you're listening to the podcast, or watching us live on Real America's Voice, we appreciate it. | ||
| So we're going to go out. | ||
| Some more incredible Christmas music. | ||
| I'm gonna return after that, after a short commercial break. | ||
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["It Came Upon the Midnight Clear"] | |
| It came upon the midnight clear That glorious song of old From angels bending near the earth | ||
| To touch their hearts of gold Peace on the earth, goodwill to men From heaven's all-gracious King | ||
| The world in solemn stillness lay To hear the angels sing | ||
| And here beneath life's crushing load Whose forms are many low | ||
| Who toil along the climbing way With painful steps and soul To toil along the climbing way with painful steps and so. | ||
| Look now, for glad and glorious hours come swiftly on the wing. | ||
| Oh, rest beside the weary load, and hear the angels sing. | ||
| Good Christian men rejoice with heart and soul and voice. | ||
| Give heed to what we say. | ||
| News! | ||
| News! | ||
| Jesus Christ is born today. | ||
| Ox and ass, they fall in love. | ||
| And he is in the manger now. | ||
| Christ is born today. | ||
| Christ is born today. | ||
| In dulci jubilo, a sing we all erode. | ||
| Here I love my wonder, my thing present behold, My care is undimmed, rounder, but least in gremio, Alpha est et O, Alpha est et O. | ||
| Good Christian men rejoice, with heart and soul and voice, Now we hear your endless bliss, joy, joy, Jesus Christ is born for this. | ||
| He hath taught the heavenly law, and man is blest evermore, Christ is born for this, Christ is born for this. | ||
| Peace. | ||
| So, I'm going to go ahead and do that. | ||
| Saturday 23 December Year of Our Lord 2023. | ||
| Welcome to our Christmas Eve special. | ||
| We're on Saturday this year because Christmas Eve comes on Sunday and even the Real America Voice team and the War Room crew, we give them a day off on the Sabbath. | ||
| Mike Lindell joins us. | ||
| I had Dr. Carol Swain on to begin the show. | ||
| You know, Dr. Swain, Who's a incredibly devout Christian today, really had the experience, her conversion experience was in her mid-forties. | ||
| Up until this she really wasn't churched, although she had a very spiritual grandmother. | ||
| You know, she had looked in the New Age and studied Eastern religions and really done a search until she had a religious experience. | ||
| How is Christmas, because you've had a pretty wild life, Mike Lindell, how is Christmas different now that you've accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior than it was in the Mike Lindell in the old days? | ||
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Well, I can think back to the old days and I was very lonely, Steve. | |
| It was a lonely time for me. | ||
| Even though I'd spend all the time with family, there was still a deep loneliness there and that's all changed. | ||
| And I wanted to get on here too to tell everyone, you know, this last year, There's so much hopelessness going on out there and people have turned to addiction like I used to have, and I want to tell everybody, you know, we forget about all the stuff I've been doing out there, but one of the things I set up a long time ago was the LyndaleRecoveryNetwork.org, everybody. | ||
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It's free. | |
| If you have an addict out there that you've been, you know, that you think is incorrigible, that you've given up on, Give him the gift, give him a gift this year by just telling him about the website because it's free. | ||
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Absolutely free. | |
| It'll give him somewhere to go, him or her somewhere to go. | ||
| And you know, and then when you get there, Steve, one of the things is it's getting off the drugs or the addiction is just a bonus. | ||
| You're going to find Jesus there. | ||
| You're going to find Jesus and you're going to surrender. | ||
| That's my passion and where we've been at now with God's given our nation grace and given us grace. | ||
| We're in the greatest revival in history for Jesus Christ. | ||
| Christmas is so much different for me. | ||
| It's a time of hope. | ||
| It's a time of I hope for everybody, and I just have a peace, and I just, I want everybody to have that peace that passes all understanding, that, you know, you do a full surrender, and you, this is where we're at in our country, and the world. | ||
| This is the biggest, the greatest time in history to be alive, because more and more people are coming into that bucket, and falling into this bucket for Jesus Christ, And getting saved. | ||
| That's what it's all about as we celebrate his birthday at Christmas. | ||
| I just want to encourage everybody out there, it's a forgotten one. | ||
| Think of the people that are forgotten out there, or that you've given up on, and reach out to them. | ||
| So that's where I'm at with Christmas right now. | ||
| It's a great time. | ||
| The turmoil in the company, and I want to talk a minute or two about that, and how people can still get to it to show support, because two individuals in this country, they singled out more than any other, President Trump, obviously, and yourself, for complete destruction. | ||
| Yeah, and that's been a blessing. | ||
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I want to thank everybody at the War Room. | |
| This is a time of great blessings for us that you guys have all been our biggest supporter and we've extended that free shipping. | ||
| We want you to all take advantage of that. | ||
| I just talked about people you might have forgot. | ||
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| 100%, your whole entire order will ship for free and you've got all the things, the War Room flannel sheets, we still have all those on sale and we've extended even the slippers and everything through Christmas here. | ||
| Go ahead and get those orders in when you're sitting around at Christmas here and you think of someone you might have forgot go ahead and put that order and that ships for free and and You can ship it. | ||
| You can put in shipping right to their house to her right to where they're at So I see if I just want to thank everyone for this year at the warm room posse and thank you for having us on because with I don't know if we'd have made it through without you all the attacks on my pillow and my employees are sure blessed to have a great ...outlet like the War Room Posse and yourself supporting us this last year. | ||
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| MyPillow.com promo code War Room, also the number 800-873-1062, and make sure you wish the operators Merry Christmas when you talk to them. | ||
| Let them know we have their back. | ||
| Mike Lindell, Merry Christmas, brother. | ||
| We'll see you after Christmas, between Christmas and New Year's, when you'll come back on the show. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, Merry Christmas, War Room Posse. | ||
| Merry Christmas, Steve. | ||
| God bless you all. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Two conversion experiences when they were, you know, in their 40s, 50s. | ||
| Okay, music takes us out. | ||
| We're going to be back in 90 seconds. | ||
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