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Dec. 16, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3251: Censorship In Peer Review Journals
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unidentified
We do.
I'm not going to try to do math live on the air, but it's a significant penalty, over $100 million altogether.
$75 million in punitary damage, $20 million towards each of them, and then more than $16 million for the first question in compensatory damages.
So a significant, significant finding against Rudy Giuliani, and is really what his lone lawyer would describe as the civil equivalent of the death penalty for Rudy Giuliani here.
Give me a little context on those numbers, Lisa Rubin.
Did any of this surprise you?
No, it doesn't surprise me.
I had actually expected that punitive damages award, Alicia, to be huge.
And the reason is, separate from compensatory damages, which are meant to compensate the person for their injuries, including emotional distress, punitive damages are meant to send a message, as Mike Gottlieb, who is one of Ruby and Shay's lawyers, said in his closing statement.
They are meant to deter Future behavior like that, but also to send a message to the wrongdoer that what you did here was so egregious and so wrong that it's meant to punish him, not to reward them.
And so, to the extent that the numbers that Ryan has just reported to us are accurate and that there are punitive damages here in excess of $70 million, that is a unanimous jury, Alicia, and I should underscore that.
The jury verdict here had to be unanimous, down to the dollar and cent.
Telling the world what Rudy Giuliani did to these women, particularly abusing that position of trust that he had, as Rev was just discussing, was so heinous that he should be punished more than they should be compensated for their injuries.
Ryan, my friend, you said you did not want to do math on the air, but I'm going to ask you to run us through those numbers one more time.
Sure, over 150 is what we can go with now.
So it's 75 in those punitive damages.
The compensatory damages is 16 each, and then an additional 20 each for both of them.
So, you know, very significant finding here, ultimately landing on slightly different numbers for the compensatory damages.
Both of them are in the $16 million range, but they're a little bit different for each of them.
And then it's matching 20, and then 75 overall punitive.
rudy giuliani
Of course, there's very little I can say right now.
I have to analyze this.
Obviously, possibly we'll move for a new trial.
Certainly we'll appeal.
The absurdity of the number merely underscores the absurdity of the entire proceeding, where I've not been allowed to offer one single piece of evidence in defense, of which I have a lot.
So I am quite confident when this case gets before a fair tribunal, It'll be reversed so quickly, it'll make your head spin, and the absurd number that just came in will help that, actually.
unidentified
Why did you choose not to testify?
Why do you think it was unfair?
Why do you think it was unfair?
rudy giuliani
I cannot go into the details.
I didn't testify because the judge made it clear that if I made any mistake or did anything wrong she was considering contempt and this judge does have a reputation for putting people in jail and I thought honestly It wouldn't do any good.
unidentified
Do you still believe that what you said about these two women in the wake of the 2020 election is truthful?
Do you still believe these claims?
rudy giuliani
I have no doubt that my comments were made and they were supportable and are supportable today.
I just did not have an opportunity to present the evidence that we offered.
Did you notice we were not allowed to put in one piece of evidence in defense?
Do you also realize that liability is not based on any trial?
My ability is based on her disagreement with me on Discovery, which is absurd.
Because I believe the judge was threatening me with the strong possibility that I'd be held in contempt or that I'd even be put in jail.
So it didn't seem like it was going to do much to persuade anybody.
And it could give her what she It seems to be threatening.
unidentified
Do you have any regrets about some of the comments that the women received?
Well, of course, the comments they received I had nothing to do with.
rudy giuliani
We gotta get out of here.
unidentified
Shh!
Shh!
Do you have any regrets about some of the comments that the women received?
rudy giuliani
Well of course, the comments they received I had nothing to do with.
Those comments are abominable, they're deplorable.
No defense to it, but I receive comments like that every day.
Different kinds of things.
I've represented clients who have gotten that from the other side.
This is a terrible part of our political system.
Republicans, Democrats, liberals, and conservatives all get that.
My comments weren't that.
And I think that was also a very unfair part of it, because my comments had no connection at all to those.
There were thousands of things in the press about this, of which mine were a small amount.
There's no way to say that my comments connected to that, but that's gonna be part of what we'll get to litigate in a fair court.
unidentified
Thank you.
Is that behavior that you will officially condemn, sir?
Thank you, guys.
Thank you.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that but you're not gonna stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 15 December, Year of Our Lord 2023.
A blockbuster verdict over in the, I guess the defamation, whatever it was.
I didn't even know it was a trial.
It just looked like it was a They didn't have much of a trial.
It looked like they were just going to talk about what the damages were.
We're trying to track down Rudy, America's mayor, to get him on either in this hour or the next hour, or if they're traveling around there in Washington, D.C., they may be heading back to New York to get him on tomorrow morning or as soon as his attorneys let him.
So you just heard $148 million, punitive damages.
The jury was out for two days.
Of course, MSNBC is dancing on Rudy's grave, but Rudy said This is going to be reversed so fast, make your head spin.
We're going to get all the details from Rudy when we track him down.
So put a pin in that.
A huge announcement just happened right when we were coming on.
I want to thank the Real America's Voice team in Denver.
Also my own crack team for getting a perfect cut right there.
We're very honored to have back an old friend and former, I guess not a co-host, but an advisor, a contributor that was in studio with us for a couple of weeks.
The first couple of weeks of January in 2020, when we flipped at least one hour, we started with one hour, took the two hour worm impeachment, I guess the three hour, one hour in the afternoon, we turned it into two hours of worm pandemic.
Our first contributor was Dr. Stephen Hadfield.
Thank you so much for being here in the nation's capital today.
Thank you for coming by.
But the reason was you sent me a piece the other day, and if Denver can please put it up.
Dr. Hadfield, and real quickly, your bona fides as far as your academic background, your professional background for those of our many viewers throughout the world that maybe weren't with us back in the pandemic days.
unidentified
I'm board eligible in hematological pathology.
I have a master's degree in molecular biology, virology, a master's degree in medical biochemistry, and one in experimental pathology.
My fellowships included Oxford University, the National Institutes of Health, and USAMRID.
United States Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Disease where I worked on new treatments for the Ebola virus. And you were up at Fort Detrick.
steve bannon
That's it. Fort Detrick for many years. And you in fact the reason you were one of the people came on the first days of pandemic and really I think your book was Three Minutes to Midnight or Three Seconds?
Three Seconds to Midnight.
Three Seconds to Midnight.
The nuclear was three minutes, three seconds.
That book informed us so much at the beginning of the pandemic.
Just tell us about that book for a second.
Three Seconds to Midnight.
unidentified
Following the 2014 debacle with the Ebola virus, we're after good, literally, Eighty billion dollars over 25 years had been spent on biological defense.
We couldn't handle 11 Ebola patients on U.S.
soil without major drama.
steve bannon
Down in Texas, remember?
unidentified
It started down in Texas with Duncan.
And I started a serious review of pandemic preparedness.
And what I found was just simply shocking.
And this is what I carefully researched and referenced.
and uh... put in the book three seconds until midnight and it was published two weeks before uh... it was published in november two weeks before we had our First case on the soil of COVID-19.
steve bannon
It was amazing.
The book is still a must read.
I understand you're working on a new one, but I got to go to this article because you were taken, you went over to the White House to work in Peter Navarro's group.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Right.
And you were there for quite a while.
This article, and if we can put it up, it's, I want to, it's in a peer review journal.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
In fact, your comms person is going to join us.
Don Slaughter is going to join us in a minute to talk about this.
But, The headline is The COVID Debacle, Merging Criminal Law and Medical Science for Accountability.
It is a pretty brutal piece, although it's got, I don't know, 60 references.
First off, this is a peer-reviewed journal?
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
AAPS, yeah.
Talk about the journal, its quality, and about the peer-review it went through.
unidentified
AAPS, American Association of Physicians and Surgeons, very much maligned.
They've been in existence for almost, I think, a half century.
This started when they were trying to socialize medicine back in the 50s.
They got together and fought against that.
Wanting the patient's rights.
steve bannon
This is the alternative for AMA, right?
unidentified
Yes, oh yeah, absolutely.
steve bannon
But always looked at as kind of the fringe group or the more right-wing group, if I would put that nicely.
unidentified
They try to pretend to lie.
It's some of the smartest people you'll ever find.
steve bannon
Okay, so you're going to get obviously grief about that right off the bat.
unidentified
Oh, of course.
steve bannon
Okay, but talk to me about, take a couple of minutes, walk me through your theory of the case.
I want Grace and Mo to put this in all the chat rooms and push this out.
We want everybody to read it.
What is your, since you were there on the inside as an advisor, walk me through what the theory of the case is here.
unidentified
When COVID-19 broke out on U.S.
soil and people started being admitted and overflowing with the hospital emergency rooms and intensive care units, the nation went into full panic mode.
The modeling for our total number of fatalities indicated that the infrastructure of our largest cities could be in effect.
So, like it was war.
Like World War II.
And we tried everything.
Operation Warp Speed needed to be done.
This was looking at a vaccine.
But it was always understood That these experimental messenger RNA vaccines would be very carefully monitored.
And a new surveillance system had been brought in, to be safe, that was hoping to improve on the accuracy.
At any sign of adverse effects, of any significant number, the vaccine should have been halted.
They were so experimental.
steve bannon
And this experimental gene therapy.
unidentified
Yeah, it was.
It was a gene therapy.
steve bannon
But you guys real quickly.
I just want to go back for a second.
You were one of the biggest advocates of hydroxychloroquine, correct?
unidentified
For early drug treatment.
steve bannon
For treatment.
It worked.
unidentified
It was safe.
steve bannon
So why were you I thought the people that want hydroxychloroquine as a therapy, right?
We're all we're against even or it's looked at warp speed as something that was going to take 10 years, not six months.
Am I incorrect in that?
unidentified
If you if you took hydroxychloroquine and it turned out to be a safe and effective antiviral agent, which it does, it drops mortality up to 81%.
If you take it early enough in your disease course, then you can't bring out a hastily tested experimental vaccine.
It has to.
It will take a number of years to get it approved.
So it was standing in the way of the vaccines and another experimental drug called remdesivir, which it's been reported that hydroxychloroquine would inactivate remdesivir.
This was a drug that, this was Dr. Anthony Fauci's pet drug.
steve bannon
But President Trump, with others, tried to push hydroxychloroquine and Fauci, the chief medical guy, in running roughshod over the task force, essentially blocked it. Am I incorrect in that?
unidentified
No, absolutely. Peter Nabarro had to go down and have a huge fight in the Situation Room just to get the tablets. And I don't know how he did it, but within a week or so, we had 62 million doses.
This was the answer.
This would have halted the pandemic.
It would have brought it under control.
52 other countries have used it successfully to keep their pandemic, their hospital admissions under control.
We wouldn't have surged out into the number of cases we had and the deaths.
steve bannon
Let's take a short commercial break.
We have Dr. Steven Unner to have Dr. Steven Heffield back.
Natalie Attired?
I didn't dress like that for the pandemic for the early days.
Natalie Attired?
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Okay, um, you had hydroxychloroquine.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Fauci- It worked.
unidentified
It was safe.
Physiologically, people that have been on it for a long time showed a slight increase in the length of their heartbeat.
This was used as an excuse.
When the virus, which actually attacks the heart, you've heard of myocarditis, that was causing arrhythmias, irregular heartbeats, this type of thing.
steve bannon
But let me ask you, Fauci was not a big name in the vaccine at first.
No.
Okay, Fauci, but why did he kill, why did he kill hydroxychloroquine?
unidentified
Remdesivir.
And?
Probably connections.
There were some patents that had come out of the National Institutes of Health.
steve bannon
Do you back this?
Okay, this thing has got 60 references to it, correct?
Yes.
It's very dense, but very readable.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Why did you feel compelled?
This is very provocative.
The COVID debacle merging criminal law and medical science for accountability.
What do you mean by that?
unidentified
Not one person should have ever been given one injection of these messenger RNA, quote, pseudo-vaccines.
They never prevented infection.
They never prevented COVID-19 transmission.
They never prevented more serious disease.
There is no data to support that.
We know this because Judicial Watch and others have filed FOIAs.
We have the original Pfizer data.
It's been analyzed by top clinical scientists.
One very senior person at the British Medical Journal, and their summation is that there is a negative benefit-risk-to-risk ratio.
It is more dangerous to take the vaccine than it is to actually catch COVID and be hospitalized.
steve bannon
Biggest or most important or one of the most important pharmaceutical companies in the country saying it worked.
I correct me if I'm wrong.
I also had the FDA I had emergency use authorization had these panels.
This was not something that just kind of came out of thin air.
Then you had Biden made it mandatory.
There was such a compelling argument from their perspective.
They made it mandatory.
People got kicked out of the military.
People lost their jobs.
People in media couldn't go into the buildings to do their broadcasts.
So how did that happen?
And that is covered in here.
But maybe not the depth.
How did the whole apparatus get back up?
You're saying it's evident now and you've got all these other doctors coming out because they've got the Pfizer, you know, and Daily Classman doing it.
Why at the time did the institutions that are supposed to protect people say the exact opposite of what you're saying now?
unidentified
This was designed to generate funding.
To make money.
Everybody had a little stake in it.
Six days after President Trump released the vaccines and they were authorized for use, laboratory experiments showed that a portion of that messenger RNA was lethal.
steve bannon
But President Trump didn't really release it, even as Commander-in-Chief.
The FDA and all, you had to have emergency use authorization.
How did that take place?
If what you're going to say six days afterwards, oh, we found out the system's not supposed to work like that.
So how, what happened in this instance?
unidentified
Incompetence and greed.
These vaccines were never fully tested.
They were never tested for safety.
There was no biodistribution studies.
We didn't know where the vaccine went in the body.
We didn't know how long these messenger RNA fragments, which were artificially created, how long they stayed in the body.
And nobody bothered to check, Stephen, that messenger RNA that coded for the virus spike protein.
is a highly toxic molecule.
Nobody bothered to check.
So when you get a vaccination, your cells are taken over by these lipoprotein particles and your cells are forced to make this toxic protein for at least 160 days after injection.
steve bannon
Doc, here's what Here's what doesn't make sense.
You've got to make it make sense to me.
You have a therapy that's on the world market and doesn't cost anything.
Hydroxychloroquine.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
They sell it by the ton, right?
And it's all over India.
It's been used for malaria all over.
unidentified
59 years.
steve bannon
You pop it, right?
You have something that's been proven.
That's a therapy.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
That you're saying that the therapy is so good it could essentially kill the pain.
Get us from pandemic to epidemic and then out of it.
Then you've got an experiment.
At the same time, you're dual tracking experimental gene therapy because everybody now is convinced that it may have to take a vaccine.
How do you, how does the system stop the one that works as a therapy and pushes the one that doesn't work, which is the gene therapy?
I think that's where people are having a hard time.
unidentified
Through use of the mass media, there was a single point failure in this entire pandemic plan, which would have worked.
Orders came down through Secretary Azar at Health and Human Services, to Bob Kadlec at Pandemic Planning, to Janet Woodcock, who was head of Drug and Vaccine Safety at the FDA, and to Rick Bright, who was the head of BARDA, and the stockpiled drug
That this needed an investigational new drug authority.
All that is, is a simple statement saying this, doctors can prescribe this for something that it wasn't originally designed for.
It's done all the time.
It's called off-label prescriptions.
We do it for a lot of things.
It's a doctor's right to be able to do that.
steve bannon
As long as it's in the physician's desk reference manual.
unidentified
Right.
Otherwise, you've got unlimited... As long as it's an FDA-approved drug.
Okay.
And my drugs, of course, have been FDA-approved for years.
steve bannon
For years.
Decades.
unidentified
Janet Woodcock phoned Rick Bright that same evening.
And this is from Rick Bright's own legal deposition.
Phoned Rick Bright that same evening, had a bard and said, oh, this is a very dangerous drug.
It will kill thousands.
steve bannon
BARDA being the drug part of DARPA?
unidentified
Yes, essentially.
The same thing.
Advanced Research Projects Agency.
steve bannon
Why did she say that?
unidentified
I don't know.
Because she's a rheumatologist.
She would have known how safe the drug was.
She would have prescribed it herself.
steve bannon
You've known Cadillac for decades.
20 years.
20 years.
Is Bob Cadillac a good manager at Deep State?
unidentified
He used them.
steve bannon
It's a simple... Okay, hang on.
Let me play the clip.
I want to go to Sherry Markson.
unidentified
He's changed.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to go to Sherry Markson because you're putting the finger on Fauci, Cadillac, Woodcock, and Bright.
Four pretty prominent people in the country, Dr. Heffer.
Let's play the clip from Sherry Markson in Australia.
unidentified
It's pretty extraordinary to reveal the conversations that you had with Fauci and Collins.
It's pretty extraordinary to publicly say that you did try to downplay the rhetoric around a bioweapon and a lab leak.
Are you doing this interview in part because you feel guilty about that?
I just feel like it's an obligation that I have to kind of say, what happened?
And I think to factually try to portray this, not to get sympathy or forgiveness, but more to saying factually, here's what happened.
This is what we tried to do.
steve bannon
Right there he's trying to do a mea culpa on the whole Wuhan.
unidentified
Bob Cadleck helped us get the hydroxychloroquine, Peter Navarro.
He worked very hard to do it.
It was a successful thing.
Within days we had 62 million doses in the National Strategic Stockpile.
He knows the drug worked.
He knows the drug was safe.
Yet, after Janet Woodcock and Rick Bright, Rick Bright went to the mass media, unauthorized and said, this is a dangerous drug and thousands will die from taking this drug.
The biased mainstream media went crazy over this because the president had taken it.
Do you think they're going to give the president of the United States a drug that could suddenly kill him?
He had been exposed through his butler, his valet, and he was given a treatment course of this.
I've had treatment courses.
You don't even know you've taken it.
Okay.
Pregnant women can take it.
We give pregnant women no drugs.
Nursing mothers can take it.
It's safer than aspirin in the FDA's own list of dangerous drugs.
steve bannon
Okay, but at the time, it was considered incredibly dangerous.
The 62 million tablets you had never got out to the public.
unidentified
They did.
They did.
It started.
steve bannon
It started, but it got shut down virtually immediately.
The press... Who shut it down?
unidentified
Essentially, the mass media shut it down.
The mainstream media.
steve bannon
The mass media doesn't have a say.
unidentified
There was a pathetic... Did Cadillac or did Fauci go back to some committee and say... The FDA picked up on two papers that were written.
One was a lethal study done in Brazil using lethal doses of chloroquine.
They put the sickest patients that were dying from other things, cancer, heart disease, HIV, In the treatment arm, and of course they died, and they reported on that, and they took that and ran with it, the mainstream media.
You had Neil Cavuto on Fox Business News screaming, if they go to take you into the emergency room and try to give you chloroquine, don't take it, it will kill you, it will kill you.
Now, I don't know where Neil Cavuto went to medical school, but he should be held accountable for what he's saying.
steve bannon
Talk about this.
Talk about your accountability.
Why did you say the merger of criminal law and science?
What does the headline mean?
unidentified
It means that illegal things have been done.
Data was covered, starting from the drug companies themselves.
steve bannon
You're prepared to back all this up.
A lot of this is in there in the references.
unidentified
It's all referenced.
There's not a thing I'm saying now that is not referenced.
Thanks to Judicial Watch, we now have the original data from the clinical trials.
Thanks to the BMJ, we now have expert, senior clinical scientists and their analysis of this.
The vaccines never worked.
Hydroxychloroquine.
steve bannon
Hang on.
How could they not have worked if the FDA gave emergency use authorization to send them out to the public?
unidentified
Because they didn't look at the data.
They green-lighted it.
steve bannon
They're the top scientists in the country.
How do you expect anybody to believe that?
unidentified
Where?
At the FDA?
steve bannon
On the FDA.
unidentified
You must be joking.
steve bannon
On the advisory committee, too.
unidentified
You must be joking.
steve bannon
You're not buying that?
unidentified
On the advisory committee, you've got Okay, hang on.
The senior editor.
steve bannon
Let's take a quick break.
I worked up Hatfield like I used to work up in the early days.
I'm calling him out.
Short break.
We're back in the warm in just a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K Vance.
steve bannon
Okay, I've got a lot to get.
I'm going to get Don Slaughter up in a minute about this story and why it's been suppressed and your backup that you've got the receipts and you've shown in this.
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Thank you.
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Okay, I want to bring in Don Slaughter right now from Recursion Media.
He's your comms person.
Why, Don, you can't put out a press release about this.
You can't get this published.
You got it in this peer-reviewed journal.
Why is it so, if you guys have the receipts, why is it so radioactive, brother?
unidentified
Well, thanks for having me.
It calls out a lot of people in very powerful places that have a lot to lose by the truth getting out to the public.
So this is not a new situation with us.
We've been dealing with this since Dr. Hatfield has been right out of the White House.
I've known him for over a decade and we've worked on a number of projects.
This information that he just published is more of an aggregation.
Of a lot of information that we've already tried to publish many times.
We've been locked out of PR Newswire.
We've been locked out of other digital PR sites.
We have absolutely no way to get it out to the public other than individual email campaigns.
It's toxic.
Nobody wants to hear it.
steve bannon
Why can't you then go and just sue these guys for saying they're suppressing real information?
This is supposed to be a country that you can pass real information.
I mean, what are they saying to you when you try to get this out that this is false?
You've got 60 references, you've got one of the most prominent guys in the country.
What are they telling you when you try to get it out and they block you?
unidentified
Verbatim, the last one is promotion of unverifiable medical claims.
PR Newswire blocked us and banned us permanently, claiming that it was defamatory and unsubstantiated.
We published papers on transparent conflicts of interest, the origins of the pandemic, open letters to America.
We went right at it.
Even the platform Medium closed down Dr. Hatfield's site because they said it was unsubstantiated.
steve bannon
Okay, so let me go back to Dr. Hatfield.
You've got 60 references in here.
This is a peer-reviewed journal, although they're going to say this is a peer-reviewed journal of marginal wingnuts like yourself.
How do you make the case to people you know like Kadlec, Woodcock, Bright, Fauci, that this is not defamatory?
unidentified
The science stands on its own.
We have enough data now and enough people have looked at this and have analyzed this.
Peter McCulloch, Harvey Reisch, some very well-known names in science in America, and this is an aggregate of everybody's work.
Six days after the vaccines were authorized in EUA, and they weren't authorized in EUA for early treatment, Woodcock had put on their hospital use only, which means the patients were already in the second more severe phase of the disease.
When you cut your finger, You treat it early, you wash it out, you put antibiotic ointment on it.
You don't let it get festering to the point where they cut your arm off.
It's the same with hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19.
When it starts out, it's an upper respiratory tract infection.
When your stove's on fire, You put the fire out.
You don't wait till the whole house is on fire.
steve bannon
When Naomi Wolf and everybody got the, when they, when Pfizer had to release, the documents were supposed to be secure for 70 years, they had the Rompasi help, all that.
And I do want to mention, I think Pfizer is down, it's lost three quarters of its value or something like that.
It's down at a multi-year low, I think.
Are you making the case that now we see it doesn't work because you've had more experimentation and people see some of the excess deaths and all that, or are you making the case they should have known it at the time and they basically did know it at the time?
Because those are two different things.
unidentified
They should have known it at the time, they did know it at the time, and if you're following the literature that were coming out of the laboratories, It should have been withdrawn in probably about February, March.
steve bannon
So Bob Cadillac, Bob, I just wonder, Bob Cadillac's a friend of yours, correct?
You've known him?
unidentified
I've known him for a long time.
steve bannon
Twenty years.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
And Bob Cadillac is in the chain of badness here, correct?
Chain of command.
unidentified
I don't know what happened to Bob Cadillac.
He helped us get the hydroxychloroquine.
He knew it worked.
And he would have nothing to do with it once the EUA was pulled for false reasons.
The letter that accompanied the EUA withdrawal was written by an ex-Air Force nurse that was suddenly made Chief FDA Scientist and had no hard science degree.
steve bannon
How do people, where do they go?
Do you still have a website?
Yeah.
Okay, it's up.
We're showing it.
Where do people go to get this?
What's the social media, I'm going to ask?
unidentified
DrSteven, with a V. Hatfill, H-A-T-F-I-L-L dot com.
All the papers are up there.
steve bannon
Are you going around trying to lecture about this?
Are you going on other media?
unidentified
I just got back from speaking to the Romanian parliament.
steve bannon
Oh, you went to the conference?
unidentified
Yeah, I spoke there, along with... Is it getting more traction over there?
Yes.
steve bannon
Why is that?
unidentified
They never allowed the vaccines.
The opposition party there...
Just created such a rush, they saved thousands and thousands of their citizens.
steve bannon
Don, if people want to find out more about this, and particularly look at all the references and all the cross tabs and everything, where do they go?
unidentified
Okay, they can go to recursionmedia.com.
So recursionmediagroup.com.
They can go to recursion.live, which has many of Dr. Hatfield's events on it.
I think, as he said, go to his website, which is drstephenhatfield.com.
And if anyone wants more information directly, they can get it from us as well.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Your book is targeted, you have a new book, an update on three seconds.
When is that coming out?
unidentified
It's going to the publisher within the week.
steve bannon
Within the week, and it will be out sometime in February, March?
unidentified
We're hoping.
steve bannon
Okay, fine.
We'll keep a track of that.
unidentified
It's a full account of what was witnessed firsthand, heavily referenced.
steve bannon
The inside baseball of what went down?
unidentified
It was, sir, yeah.
steve bannon
That'll be an exciting read.
Slaughter, they'll be blocking that one too, so just be advised.
Thank you for coming in.
Long time.
unidentified
Stephen, always good to see you.
steve bannon
Always.
I love Dr. Hatfield.
We've tangled a couple of times.
We tangle all the time.
But Hatfield's a good man.
He's a tough guy.
So thank you very much for coming in.
We've got a couple more evolutions for you to do here.
Let me bring in, I got David Flynn and Nancy Flynn.
David and Nancy, thank you very much for joining us.
Talk to me about what has come up in your product offerings about this.
unidentified
Hey Steve, thanks for having us on again.
As you know, we've been on this journey through a vaccine injury with a child since, well, for 17 years.
And it's through that protocol that we did to help him heal that we've kind of made some discoveries on our own here and why we, our family, no one got sick with COVID at all.
Yeah, we followed our protocol, not theirs, so that was a big part of it.
I appreciate you having us on.
Dr. Hatfield and people like that, that are actually getting to the roots of what happened, why it happened, how it happened, is fantastic.
We're on the other side, as you know.
We're on the side of, okay, you have this toxin in your body, what do you do?
And I think of it like you're an old Navy guy.
I mean, if you were on the ship and someone was firing missiles at you, what would you do?
You'd eliminate the threat, right?
It's been identified.
You eliminate it.
And that's what our program does.
It removes the toxins.
Then we look and we repair the damage.
And finally, we go back and we restore.
So it's a one, two, three process.
Remove, repair, and restore.
And I mean, there's really nothing like it out there.
I wish there was.
I wish there was other things to get to people.
But there's really nothing that goes through those three processes to try to fix, stop the more damage, fix the damage that's there, and then reset things and restore them so that they're better.
They're back to where you were before, and maybe even where they were when you were much younger, because it helps with more than just the spikes.
I know we're short on time here.
The other thing we get all the time, the question we get is, who needs this?
Some people are like, I got a good batch.
I must have dodged the bullet.
There were no good batches.
Yeah.
As we just heard from the doctor there, there were not any good batches.
Whatever the intent was behind it, it's just something you need to get out of your body.
Again, it's a one, two, three.
We like to keep things simple around here.
If you took the vaccine, if you had COVID, or if you were around people that did, if you fall into one of those three categories, you need to do something.
So you need to address it.
If we're going to go back and take our country back, we have a lot of work ahead of us.
We need to have optimal health.
So if you fall into one of those three categories, you got the jab, you had COVID, Or you're around people that did.
You need to do something to address it, because especially if the needle went in your body, you have this in there and you need to get it out.
It may not have shown its effects yet, but if it's in you, we need to stop it.
So remove, repair, restore.
Warroomwellness.com.
I think it's on the bottom of the screen there.
We have a great special.
We work really hard to deliver value with inflation.
Everything's trying to keep the prices Where they are.
So we have a 50% savings for the posse.
We're longtime listeners ourselves.
So we really wanted to get this into as many people's hands as possible because everyone needs this or something like it.
And you know, like we said, we just haven't been able to find anything else out there that really addresses those three issues.
Remove, repair and restore.
So we thank you, Steve.
We thank you for allowing us some time to share this.
steve bannon
Where do people go right now to get it?
unidentified
War Room Wellness.
WarRoomWellness.com.
One word, two R's.
WarRoomWellness.com.
A lot of information there, studies, all the science behind the products.
It's just far too much really to go into on a short segment.
But the special, at that site, when you type in WarRoomWellness.com, it already applies a promo code for Steve's audience and you're going to be able to start addressing this issue.
steve bannon
Nancy, tell me, I got about 30 seconds here.
I want to hold you through the break.
You guys have been on a 17-year journey about this.
Tell us about, tell us why, about your son.
unidentified
Well, our son was born early and they advised that we vaccinate.
And because he was so early, I hadn't had time to do much of my research.
I kind of liked doing my research.
But because they saved my life and his, I inherently trusted the doctors and I okayed the hep B shot.
And they gave him five vaccines within one 24 hour period.
And that's where the damage occurred.
So he's been on a 17 year journey.
We've done a lot of the recovery through nutrient dense food and high dose supplementation.
And we believe that that's why none of us got sick.
We've been in this industry for about 13 years.
Um, and you know, he's saved our life in so many ways.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
I just want to hold you through the break.
The friends will be back in a minute.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Rudy Giuliani right side.
We start with the, uh, with Rudy outside the courthouse.
The absurd, this is a quote from Rudy.
The absurdity of the number underscores the absurdity of the entire proceedings.
I am quite confident when this case gets before a fair tribunal, it will be reversed so quickly.
It'll make your head spin.
We are trying to get Rudy on for tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
We're also going to be live.
We're going to be here, but we're going to have a live crew at AmFest.
We're going to try to get some guests in there from AmFest.
Mo is going to be there, Jane, Natalie, also Grace Chung is going to join us.
Some of the team is going to be out at AmFest.
I speak on Sunday, I think at about 1730 or 1700, 5 o'clock for you civilian types.
So we're going to try to get Rudy, subject to his lawyer.
But since Rudy is his lawyer, I think, you know, if Rudy wants to come on, he'll come on.
So we'll put that up on Getter tonight, if we can pull it off.
David and Nancy, is there enough, all this information is coming out now about the vaccine.
Do you think that makes, A case that it wasn't effective, and people at the time should have known it wasn't effective, because still the mainstream media, I mean they're blocking Hatfield, you just heard Don Slaughter, still the mainstream media, the big power players in this country are still saying that people who don't believe the vaccine works today are a bunch of nutcases.
Your thoughts?
unidentified
Yeah, I absolutely think that.
And, you know, the way this whole thing happened is, you know, you had a group of people that came together and they all had different reasons for wanting the same goal.
So you had all these foreign entities and they wanted to come in and hurt our country and interfere with our election.
You know, Big Pharma, they wanted to make a ton of money and have basically, you know, blanket immunity from any consequences of it.
You had politicians in the media, they wanted power and money, you know, power and control.
And then you had the FDA and the FDA was kind of the linchpin of all this.
And if you look at them, I think they might be a mixture of all four of those reasons.
Maybe not hurting the country as much, but certainly it's a revolving door between Big Pharma and the FDA.
It's been like that for a long time.
We've been dealing with vaccine issues with our son going back 17 years, so there's certainly an echo that sounds very familiar when we look at the issues with this vaccine and what's happened with our son.
So absolutely.
It's like an onion, and every time you peel back the layer, it just gets worse and worse and worse.
So there's definitely something there.
steve bannon
You've got tons of information on the site.
Where do people go?
unidentified
Warroomwellness.com.
Warroomwellness, double R, wellness.com.
steve bannon
And all your questions will be answered.
Nancy and David, thank you so much for joining us.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Thanks.
We'll see you at AmFest.
Thanks.
steve bannon
See you at AmFest.
We're going to push this article out.
You read it.
He's got the references.
Check it out.
Maybe we'll have a counter-argument for that Monday or Tuesday, or we'll be at AmFest, maybe Wednesday of next week.
But quite controversial from Dr. Stephen Hadfield, because he was there.
Dr. Hadfield was over at the executive office building right next to the West Wing, working on this for months and months and months.
He's got a book coming, I said, in a couple of months that goes through all that.
That'll be quite interesting.
Next hour we're going to go.
Todd Bensman is actually in the Balkans.
The situation there on the migration, on the migrant crisis, that's why he's over there, is quite shocking.
He and Ben Harnwell are going to join us and talk about that.
We're trying to get David Clemens on this hour.
We can't.
We'll get David on next hour to talk about his new project.
But Harnwell and about this.
And remember, right now, it's been an announcement.
The Senate thinks they're going to have some sort of deal or going to be able to put out some paper about what they're prepared to do on the border.
And that's going to come out, I think, Sunday or Monday.
So we'll be all over that because I know the guys in the House are like not interested right now.
But to get to get this money to Ukraine, they will do anything.
They will do absolutely anything.
Chris Hoare, we're trying to get just like Mike Lindell's being Santa's helper and paying for Mike Lindell is paying for the expedited Shipping, free shipping for everybody that goes to mypillow.com promo code war room.
Also, in addition, you guys are giving our audience specials every day.
What do you got for us today, brother?
chris hoar
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steve bannon
That's the Mike Adams from Natural News, correct?
The Mike Adams?
chris hoar
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unidentified
$2,995.
chris hoar
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steve bannon
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One more time, where do they go to get all the information about this, bro?
There's a lot of stuff in there.
chris hoar
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steve bannon
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Thank you Chris Hoare.
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Okay, we're going to take a couple minute break.
We're going to be back for the second hour.
We're going to go to the Balkans.
I think it's Croatia we're going to go to?
Maybe Serbia?
With Todd Benz, our own Todd Benzman.
Ben Harnwell from Rome is going to join me.
We're going to talk you through The global migration crisis is called.
I say it's the invasion of Europe and the United States.
They're trying to cut a deal in the Senate.
You've got to be up to speed on all of this.
Short commercial break.
We're going out with Modern Day Holy War.
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