Dec. 14, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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... highest court that could have major implications, the unprecedented and historic criminal prosecution of Donald Trump. | |
| The justices announcing today that they will hear an appeal by a January 6 defendant. | ||
| His name is Joseph Fisher. | ||
| He has been indicted on seven charges related to the insurrection, including obstruction of an official proceeding, which is also, as you know, a charge brought by special counsel Jack Smith against Donald Trump. | ||
| Now, Fisher is seeking to dismiss that count, the central question before the Supreme Court. | ||
| according to the New York Times, quote, can the government charge defendants in those cases under a federal law that makes it a crime to corrupt, corruptly obstruct an official congressional proceeding? | ||
| And here's how the Times lays out the stakes of this move by the Supreme Court today. | ||
| Quote, the decision to hear the case will complicate and perhaps delay the start of Mr. Trump's trial, now scheduled to take place in Washington in March. | ||
| The Supreme Court's ultimate ruling, which may not arrive until June, will likely address the viability of two of the main counts against Mr. Trump and could severely limit efforts by the special counsel, Jack Smith, to hold the former president accountable for the violence that his supporters committed at the Capitol. | ||
| Whatever the justices decide could also have a major impact on what has become the largest investigation in DOJ history. | ||
| Prosecutors have also charged more than 300 defendants with obstruction of an official proceeding. | ||
| Some of them have already been convicted. | ||
| The Supreme Court's decision today, just one of many factors that could end the case, Can I add something here? | ||
| Because, you know, one of the things about this statute, and I hadn't focused on Fisher's cert petition until today, one of the things people have been focused on about this statute is the meaning of the word corruptly. | ||
| But that's not what Fisher's appeal is about as Tim just explained. | ||
| His appeal is about whether or not it's lawful to charge him with Otherwise obstructing or impeding the congressional proceeding on January 6th because it's not tethered to documents. | ||
| And here's where it's sort of, pardon the expression, kind of stinks to be a textualist, right? | ||
| We've seen from the conservative movement that what should matter when we're looking at the meaning of a statute is the plain meaning of the statute. | ||
| But here, the plain meaning is pretty clear. | ||
| Aside from this Mutilating or concealing a record, they are prohibiting otherwise obstructing a proceeding. | ||
| What did these people do? | ||
| They blocked doors. | ||
| They prevented members of Congress in both chambers from safely voting on January 6th. | ||
| I can't think of any clearer meaning of obstructing a proceeding than the one that applies to these cases. | ||
| Whether that applies to Donald Trump might be a little bit different, but at least it should apply to the conspiracy count to obstruct a proceeding on the face of the indictment. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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It's Wednesday, 13 December, the year of our Lord 2023, a historic day. | |
| Stephen K. Babb. | ||
| It's Wednesday, 13 December, the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| A historic day. | ||
| Earlier we had clips cut from this, from the debate over the impeachment inquiry. | ||
| We're going to try to get everything in as much as we can so we can go to the floor for the vote, at least scheduled for 5.30. | ||
| We're also going to go to Coralville, Iowa. | ||
| President Trump is having a caucus event. | ||
| Our own Ben Burquham's there. | ||
| We'll go there in a minute. | ||
| But I've got to start in this Blockbuster News. | ||
| Julie Kelly's going to join us in a minute. | ||
| I've got Mike Davis for a few minutes now. | ||
| Mike, I'm not a lawyer. | ||
| Help me out here. | ||
| The thing the other day with Jack Smith going right to the Supreme Court and then today this in appeals. | ||
| It just strikes me that the prosecution of Trump is trying to go so fast. | ||
| There's so many things about all of this that are quite uncertain, and people are trying to feel their way through it. | ||
| Walk me through that. | ||
| Is this another example? | ||
| Because you see there, they're petrified. | ||
| They're already getting vicious on MSNBC about how, oh my gosh, this might slow it down till past the election. | ||
| Can you make this make sense for us? | ||
| Yeah, President Biden's railroading of President Trump is starting to derail, and it's for the reasons we have been discussing for 16 months. | ||
| It is not a crime to object to a presidential election. | ||
| It's allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887. | ||
| Democrats would be in jail for objecting to Republican wins. | ||
| In 1968, 2000, 2004, and 2016, if it were a crime, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry would be in jail if it were a crime. | ||
| It's not a crime to twist arms politically, and there are several issues that need to be resolved. | ||
| First of all, they're trying to jam through this trial, to have this trial start on March 4th, and have President Trump sit in a courtroom for six or seven months before the presidential election, instead of being on the campaign trail, and then put President Trump In prison for the rest of his life after the election. | ||
| And Judge Tanya Shutkin, this Obama judge, was going along with this deranged Biden special counsel Jack Smith to railroad President Trump. | ||
| And President Trump filed a motion to dismiss these indictments on two different grounds. | ||
| Number one is presidential immunity. | ||
| what the president did in his official capacity or the outer perimeter under Supreme Court case law of his official capacity is covered by presidential immunity. | ||
| You cannot charge people civilly or criminally, government officials civilly or criminally when they have government immunity. | ||
| That's been established with Congress, with the speech or debate clause. | ||
| That's been established with judicial immunity. | ||
| And the civil part of that has been established for the president of the United States. | ||
| But the criminal part has not yet been established because these are the first indictments ever of a President of the United States brought by Jack Smith and Alvin Bragg and Fannie Willis down in Georgia. | ||
| This is unprecedented. | ||
| And the fact that Jack Smith is trying to railroad this through, when they have like 13 million pages of documents, they have several hundred witnesses, there's no chance this can go to trial on March 4th anyway because of the discovery in this case. | ||
| But separate from that, this case can't go forward until the Supreme Court ultimately decides Now, what Jack Smith is trying to do is skip the D.C. | ||
| Circuit Court of Appeals and he's seeking cert before judgment by the D.C. | ||
| Circuit, which is an extremely rare thing to seek. | ||
| And I hope the Supreme Court does not go along with this, because this is a novel issue, whether the president of the United States enjoys immunity from criminal prosecution, like judges do and like Congress does, that should be resolved first by the D.C. Circuit, the three-judge panel, through the regular process. And then the Supreme Court can take that if they want to take it. | ||
| They have the discretion to take it or not to take it. But if you rush and get this wrong, this has major implications for all presidents of the United States. | ||
| For example, does that mean that President Obama can be charged criminally by the Trump 47 Justice Department for his extrajudicial murder of a 16-year-old American citizen? | ||
| Remember, he ordered a drone strike and killed a 16-year-old American citizen abroad. | ||
| Can he be charged for murder now? | ||
| Does he not enjoy presidential immunity? | ||
| Is that the game the Democrats now want to play? | ||
| What about this issue today on J6? | ||
| I know you only got a couple of minutes, but this was another thing coming in, and they're saying, hey, this could slow it down to at least, this appeal wouldn't be known till June, and they're all, they're losing their minds right now. | ||
| Their heads, what happened with the Jack Smith situation on Monday or Tuesday, now this, because they see the March 4th date slipping away from them. | ||
| What happened today? | ||
| Well, I mean, first of all, it's going to slip away because Judge Tanya Schuchan issued a stay of the criminal proceedings. | ||
| She finally relented because she saw the writing on the wall that you cannot move forward with a criminal case or a civil case until the issue of government immunity is resolved, whether sovereign immunity, whether it's presidential immunity or speech or debate clause for Congress or judicial immunity, that halts the proceedings. | ||
| And we've been talking about this for a long time and people laughed at me for saying this, but Of course, I'm right. | ||
| And as Judge Tanya Shuckin just ordered, they have to resolve these issues. | ||
| This is so much bigger than Donald Trump. | ||
| This is about the presidency, whether you can charge a president for doing his official duties. | ||
| President Trump ordered his vice president not to certify the election. | ||
| You can't do that as a private citizen. | ||
| You can only do that as the president of the United States, right? | ||
| So that's the issue of presidential immunity. | ||
| And also on these January 6th cases, And Julie Kelly's going to go into this because she's been on this since day one. | ||
| They are using a bogus interpretation of a federal criminal statute related to financial crimes to go after Trump and to go after Trump's supporters on January 6th, to go after his top aides like you and Peter Navarro. | ||
| It is a bogus theory, right? | ||
| And so the Supreme Court will fix this. | ||
| And what's the rush with Jack Smith? | ||
| They waited 30 months to bring these criminal charges, right? | ||
| Why do they need to get these Resolved before the presidential election, other than the fact that this is lawfare, political lawfare by Democrats, and this is election interference, and that's exactly what we've been saying from day one. | ||
| There's no rush to get President Trump before the election other than election interference. | ||
| They want to convict President Trump before the election because they see the polling that President Trump is beating Biden like a drum on November 5th, Mike, where do people go? | ||
| You've been all over this, both the social media and Article 3 of the site. | ||
| that is a criminal conviction of Trump. | ||
| Mike, where do people go? | ||
| You've been all over this, both the social media and Article 3, the site. | ||
| Yeah, the House of Cards is falling apart for the Democrat prosecutors and judges, and it's falling apart fast. | ||
| Article3project.org, articlenumber3project.org. | ||
| You can donate there, at Article3project, at articlenumber3project on Gitter, Twitter, Truth, and by personal, as is at, MRDDMIA, MRDDMIA. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Mike Davis, thank you. | ||
| Once again, a cold shot. | ||
| This entire law firm thing looks like it's come unwound. | ||
| If I don't want Julie, I'm going to go to Coralville. | ||
| Okay, let's go to Coralville. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through. | ||
| We're going to have a vote. | ||
| Oh, by the way, a historic vote is about to take place in 20 minutes. | ||
| They're going to vote on an impeachment inquiry. | ||
| If we can pull some clips for that, maybe at the bottom of the hour, to get them in as they get ready to vote. | ||
| I want to hear that. | ||
| A heated debate, let's say, earlier today at about noon for an hour. | ||
| They were at each other's throats. | ||
| Of course, the Carnival Act of Hunter Biden didn't help. | ||
| Let's go to Coralville, Iowa for a caucus event, kind of a training event. | ||
| Our own Ben Berquam is there. | ||
| Ben, what do you got for us, brother? | ||
| Steve, this is what's amazing. | ||
| I was actually, I was sitting here thinking about what I've seen over these last several days in Chicago, now coming here, going from the border, what's happened with January 6th, the difference between the rule of law with Hunter Biden and President Trump, Joe Biden, President Trump. | ||
| And what do you have going on right now? | ||
| This is death by a million cuts in our country. | ||
| We are bleeding out in all of these places on the border, whether that's lawfare going against President Trump, the fact that January Sixers are still in prison. | ||
| But what's amazing, what's also happening right here, instead of blood coming out at each one of these cuts, it's opening a wound for light to shine through. | ||
| And we are seeing, it used to be a remnant. | ||
| You and I were just talking about this. | ||
| Your word was perfect. | ||
| It's a convergence. | ||
| We are seeing this. | ||
| What I saw in Chicago and what I'm seeing here, the line outside, it's a small venue. | ||
| There's only a couple thousand people that can fit. | ||
| It's in the 20s, 30s degrees. | ||
| It's cold outside, but we have a line wrapped around the building here to come and see President Trump because the people here understand what's happening. | ||
| The people here understand the stakes for this country. | ||
| And now you have the black inner city converging, the Hispanic community converging, God's people converging, conservatives, libertarians, godly, all of these people coming together and saying, wait a second, it's time for our light to shine. | ||
| And what's interesting about all of this, I kept thinking about this too, the left, they seem to be blind to what's happening. | ||
| They seem to be blind to their policies on the border, the impact and the fact that they're losing people. | ||
| And it's absolutely biblical. | ||
| The Bible talks about them having scales over their eyes. | ||
| That is what they have. | ||
| They cannot see what they have caused. | ||
| They cannot see why people are leaving them. | ||
| And there is something massive, amazing happening right now. | ||
| So I just want to encourage people out there. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| It's dark. | ||
| The border's terrible. | ||
| We're being invaded. | ||
| Chicago sucks right now. | ||
| But there is something amazing happening through all of this. | ||
| I just want to encourage you. | ||
| It is getting better. | ||
| The fight is just beginning. | ||
| Every single person that shines that light needs to step up right now. | ||
| But it's amazing, Steve. | ||
| I gotta tell you. | ||
| It's an honor to be a part of the fight. | ||
| Ben, you're doing a fantastic job. | ||
| We're going to have more about Chicago in the next couple days as we talk it through. | ||
| He's at a training event. | ||
| These are called caucus events. | ||
| President Trump will address the caucus thing. | ||
| They've got a couple thousand people there. | ||
| He'll be up at 730 Eastern Standard Time. | ||
| Real America's Voice will cover it. | ||
| Ben, if you can hang on, we're going to come back to you at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| A historic vote to officially commence an impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Into Joe Biden, and I've been told by people in high places that if they vote for this inquiry, they know they got the goods. | ||
| This will lead to the impeachment of Joe Biden. | ||
| That's for the day you saw that circus out front with Hunter Biden. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a break. | ||
| There's a lot we got to get into in this hour. | ||
| Top of the next hour, Natalie Winters is going to take it in covering the impeachment vote, but also talk about the politics and the political impact of Taylor Swift. | ||
| Very important, because I think this is going to be one of the major stories, political stories of 2024. | ||
| We're going to return with the Julie Kelly. | ||
| She's going to walk us through the situation on J6 today. | ||
| Explosive next in the War Room. | ||
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...by the nation's highest court that could have major implications, the unprecedented and historic criminal prosecution of Donald Trump. | |
| The justices announcing today that they will hear an appeal by a January 6 defendant. | ||
| His name is Joseph Fisher. | ||
| He has been indicted on seven charges related to the insurrection, including obstruction of an official proceeding, which is also, as you know, a charge brought by special counsel Jack Smith against Donald Trump. | ||
| Now, Fisher is seeking to dismiss that count, the central question, before the Supreme Court. | ||
| according to the New York Times, quote, can the government charge defendants in those cases under a federal law that makes it a crime to corrupt, corruptly obstruct an official congressional proceeding? | ||
| And here's how the Times lays out the stakes of this move by the Supreme Court today, quote, the decision to hear the case will complicate and perhaps delay the start of Mr. Trump's trial, now scheduled to take place in Washington in March. | ||
| The Supreme Court's ultimate ruling, which may not arrive until June, will likely address the viability of two of the main counts against Mr. Trump and could severely limit efforts by the special counsel, Jack Smith. | ||
| Julie, it was, and you've said, you and Davis have said, the March 4th thing is ridiculous. | ||
| It will take years to get this to trial. | ||
| You saw Jack Smith try this, throw the long ball, and I knew it was a Hail Mary because you could see kind of the long faces on MSNBC. | ||
| But today, two blockbusters, right? | ||
| Julie Kelly's having a good day. | ||
| Two blockbusters. | ||
| I think you tweeted out Karma's a bitch or something. | ||
| It wasn't the normal, ladylike Julie Kelly. | ||
| Tell us why today was such a big... What's going on? | ||
| Two blockbuster decisions. | ||
| Tell us what they are. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I mean, basically, essentially, for two reasons, the March 4th trial date is gone. | ||
| Number one is the Supreme Court agreeing this morning to take up this 1512C2 count. | ||
| This is the felony charge that DOJ has weaponized, bastardized, flagrantly misinterpreted the language, and applied this to more than 320 January 6th defendants. | ||
| It also represents half of Jack Smith's four count indictment against Donald Trump. | ||
| He charged him not only with the 1512C2 obstruction of an official proceeding, but also conspiracy to commit obstruction of an official proceeding. | ||
| So that really threw a big monkey wrench into Jack Smith's plans today. | ||
| We were sort of waiting for that to happen on Monday. | ||
| The Supreme Court announced it today. | ||
| Look, there is no argument that the DOJ has misinterpreted that statute intentionally, and they finally are going to get caught for doing so. | ||
| Not only DOJ, Steve, Fifteen district court judges in Washington who knew that this statute was being misapplied, was being used against how it was originally intended to be, which this is the post-Enron Arthur Anderson scandal that dealt with tampering or destruction of evidence. | ||
| Fifteen judges have allowed this. | ||
| Only one, Carl Nichols, a Trump appointee, dismissed this count against three defendants. | ||
| The delicious irony here, Steve, is that the DOJ is the one who appealed Judge Nichols' dismissal of these counts. | ||
| That's what finally got it to SCOTUS. | ||
| So let's just enjoy that as well. | ||
| The DOJ, in their arrogance, instead of letting three defendants off the hook on this count, appealed Judge Nichols, and that's how it got to the Supreme Court. | ||
| So not only is that a real problem for Jack Smith, But then compounded by Judge Chutkin today, finally admitting that the automatic appeal based on immunity claims, and this is Donald Trump appealing Judge Chutkin's ruling that presidential immunity does not apply to criminal prosecution, that Donald Trump is indeed subject to criminal prosecution. | ||
| Automatically all the pretrial deadlines are stayed as that makes its way through the appellate process. | ||
| Which is why Jack Smith took the extraordinary step, as he called it this week, seeking to bypass the appellate court and have the Supreme Court rule on this presidential immunity issue right away. | ||
| Either way, this is a disastrous day for Special Counsel Jack Smith and Judge Chutkan, which means it is a great day for everyone else, even if it lasts a day. | ||
| It is a great day for the country, certainly for Donald Trump. | ||
| Uh, and, but more importantly, the 300 plus January 6th defendants who have had their lives destroyed by being unfairly charged and convicted of this felony count, including Matthew Perna, who committed suicide after pleading guilty to the obstruction charge, and then found out that the DOJ was going to seek years in prison. | ||
| The human wreckage in the wake of what this DOJ has done with this obstruction count It will take years to calculate, but this will be, when the Supreme Court overturns how DOJ has used it, the most humiliating defeat and abuse of power that this DOJ has ever experienced in its history. | ||
| They had to, just as a technical matter, they had to appeal Nichols because that's hanging out there with one of the trial judges. | ||
| So weren't they, I know it's ironic, but they were kind of forced to do that, right? | ||
| They had to go appeal that to prove that everything else they had done with this charge was correct. | ||
| Am I wrong there? | ||
| They probably could have. | ||
| That's a good point, that if they would have left it, then other courts would have pointed to Judge Nichols and not the appeal. | ||
| You're correct. | ||
| They went back to Judge Nichols twice asking him to uphold this count. | ||
| So let's not overlook him as a hero here because all of his colleagues refused to dismiss this count. | ||
| So you're right. | ||
| He probably, DOJ probably had no choice but to pursue this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the fact that it is there on an appeal from DOJ and not another defendant. | ||
| Now of course there are other defendants who have been waiting to appeal this count and conviction. | ||
| But look, this is colliding with Jack Smith's trial calendar, which is another reason why what's his next move now? | ||
| But that's what I want to pull the camera back from people that are not lawyers and don't follow this as closely. | ||
| This issue of lawfare, and you've said this from the beginning, and David said this at the beginning, the rush, the fanatical rush to get Trump, and every night on MSNBC, because we have to, we cover these, you know, we follow these networks, CNN, BBC, MSNBC, just the glee in their eye, Weissman and these guys every night foamed up about getting Trump. | ||
| Monday's decision by Jack Smith is very much tied to, because it's all about, they got to get that March 4th deadline, right, the date. | ||
| And every, even defense lawyer I know that are Democrats have told me, this is ridiculous. | ||
| What's this? | ||
| You keep saying the 13 million pages. | ||
| of discovery. It's just you can't, this thing would normally be a year or two off if he was a normal criminal defendant. Is this the week we saw this happening that the reality set in that they're not going to be able to have a rush to put Trump in prison before the election? | ||
| It had to break at some point, Steve, because the trial calendar was so unrealistic. And keep in mind Judge Chutkan is the one who set the seven month window between indictment and trial. | ||
| That is about half the time of a normal January 6th case. | ||
| You have defendants who languished for two years waiting for their trials, waiting for their case to go to trial. | ||
| She is the one who pushed this. | ||
| Then on top of that, Steve, she waited two months before she issued her order related to the motion to dismiss on presidential immunity. | ||
| They filed, Trump's team filed that on October 5th. | ||
| She didn't rule until December 1st. | ||
| So she is the one responsible, basically eviscerated one third of her own trial schedule. | ||
| And now here we are, the holidays pending, etc. | ||
| All of these trial dates now right in front of her and in front of both sides that are now going, that are now vacated. | ||
| So even if this matter, let's say we wave a magic wand, the Supreme Court comes down or the D.C. | ||
| Appellate Court comes down. | ||
| Even in the next month and says, okay, yes, Donald Trump has to stand trial. | ||
| Presidential immunity does not apply here. | ||
| All of these dates that have been set have to be reset. | ||
| So even if it's another month that pulls that into mid April, maybe, are they still going to go to trial then? | ||
| There are other issues that have to be litigated as well. | ||
| Then you've got in the background, the classified documents trial. | ||
| So that was supposed to go to trial on May 20th. | ||
| Judge Aileen Cannon, who I said today on Twitter, looks like a genius because she is far smarter and tougher than Judge Chudkin. | ||
| In the November hearing, status hearing, she confronted Jack Smith's team, his lead prosecutor, Jay Bratt. | ||
| And she said, you are the ones responsible for bringing two criminal indictments against the same defendant in two different venues in less than two months. | ||
| So he still has due process rights. | ||
| So she suspended all of the pre-trial deadlines and said, come back on March 1st and let me know what's going on in the DC trial. | ||
| And then we'll see if the May 20th trial date is tenable. | ||
| So she has got to be giggling in her Fort Pierce courthouse chambers today because she was absolutely right. | ||
| This March 4th trial date was not tenable. | ||
| Even if it was, it was going to be a lengthier trial than Jack Smith anticipated. | ||
| Four to six weeks, he thought this would be wrapped up. | ||
| So this is all this magical thinking that Jack Smith has had because, of course, he's had the rubber stamp of Judge Chuck in the entire time. | ||
| But reality and karma caught up with both of them today. | ||
| And this March 4th trial date, there's no way to watch MSNBC. | ||
| I want to see how Andrew Weissman spins this tonight. | ||
| This should be interesting. | ||
| Julie, how do people we're going to try to get you on tomorrow, too, because I want to break this down even more in the morning, because I don't see how if the court's going to come back in June on one and we don't know about this appeals, I don't see how they're going to get these things going before Election Day. | ||
| And that means today's historic day. | ||
| They voted to begin the Biden impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Hunter gave a bozo clown show, five minute speech and then ran away from the mic. | ||
| And now this. | ||
| Remember, in this fight to save your country, the 13th of December in the year of our Lord 2023 will be an inflection point. | ||
| Julie Kelly, how do we get to you on your Substack? | ||
| And how do we get to you on social media? | ||
| Well, thanks, Steve, as always, for having me on and covering all my work and bringing this to the War Room posse. | ||
| Declassified with Julie Kelly and Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly, too. | ||
| Julie, you've been on this from the beginning for years. | ||
| The job you're doing is amazing, and the called shots you're having Incredible. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Some days are going to be good days. | ||
| The 13th of December, the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| For the Trump forces, that would be the good guys. | ||
| That would be you. | ||
| It's a damn good day. | ||
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Okay. | |
| We take a short break. | ||
| We're going to go back to Iowa. | ||
| President Trump's on a rollout there, about to crush everybody in the Iowa caucus, and they're going to start to vote at 5.30 on a formal impeachment inquiry of the Biden crime family. | ||
| All next in the War Room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, uh, I'm gonna go to Mike Dundale. | ||
| The vote's gonna start in a minute. | ||
| I'm gonna go to the floor there. | ||
| I got Ben with Trump in Iowa. | ||
| Let's go to Mike Lindell. | ||
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| Thank you. Michael and Dale's going to join us in the next hour. Next hour is going to be pretty explosive. Major, major, don't think it's a major pogo force, this Taylor Swift situation. The Swifties, they could deliver a million votes. You're going to have Natalie break it all down for you. | ||
| Ben Berquam, Iowa. | ||
| So Ben, as soon as we go get a vote on this historic day, because I've been told you get this inquiry, they know they got the goods. | ||
| We've been telling them that. | ||
| We gave them the laptop from hell over a year ago, a couple of years ago now. | ||
| They should have it. | ||
| They can stand this thing up quickly, so the train's leaving the station today once this vote takes place. | ||
| Ben Burquam, talk to me about Iowa. | ||
| What's the enthusiasm level there? | ||
| Is the war room posse there? | ||
| What's the enthusiasm level? | ||
| People understand that we've got to blow out all the opposition in January to get a roll on this primary and get right into general? | ||
| Yeah, there's a clear direction, there's a clear objective to focus on the caucus, to win the caucus big, to set the stage for the rest of the country, no question about it. | ||
| But, you know, it's interesting, too, because you see what's going on here, and there's also just this disdain for the establishment, waiting for them, the fact that they still haven't impeached Mayorkas. | ||
| Ben, hang on for a second. | ||
| Ben, hang on for a second. | ||
| We're going to go to the floor and see this? | ||
| Let's go to the floor right now. | ||
| There's a vote going on on this impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Let's go to the floor of the House of Representatives. | ||
| Five minutes here, boy. | ||
| I tell you what, split screen. | ||
| Let's see that vote. | ||
| So, Ben, continue on, brother. | ||
| We're just doing a split screen with you. | ||
| We're producing it. | ||
| We're making this up as we're going along, brother. | ||
| Just kidding. | ||
| Tell me about Iowa as we do the split screen on Biden. | ||
| Well, it all ties back to this. | ||
| The fact, you know, the grassroots are so fed up with establishment. | ||
| I mean, we haven't had any wins, really, besides we barely won the House. | ||
| But now they focused all their time on getting rid of Santos rather than getting rid of Mayorkas, rather than getting rid of Biden, rather than taking the fight back to the Democrats. | ||
| That's why when you talk to the grassroots, especially here in Iowa and across this country, they're pissed. | ||
| They're like, It's about freaking time. | ||
| It's about time that the Republicans step up and say we're going to actually fight back to the Democrats the same way the Democrats fight the Republicans. | ||
| Tell me about the war on Posse. | ||
| Any Posse members out there you've seen today? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Yeah, in fact, as soon as I showed up, they said, you know, we're watching all of your footage. | ||
| We love Steve. | ||
| We love... This is, you know, this is the hardcore Warriors. | ||
| Now, what's interesting too, you can see the room starting to fill up. | ||
| There's probably, I don't know, 400 people in here so far, but there's more. | ||
| The line goes outside around the block. | ||
| What's interesting is this is like the, you know, the warrior class of the party. | ||
| This is the base of the base. | ||
| But what's also interesting is every single one of these rallies or caucus events or whatever you want to call them, there are first-timers coming. | ||
| I met two people last night and the second person I met was a first-timer actually from Arkansas, not too far from where I live now. | ||
| And everywhere I go, it's about half and half. | ||
| You got the hardcore fighters that are showing up to these events, but then you have the ones that are coming saying, this is my first event. | ||
| I've been watching what's happening. | ||
| I'm sick and tired of sitting on my couch. | ||
| I'm going to get in the fight. | ||
| So there is a mobilization, as we were talking about earlier, convergence and a mobilization of people who realize it's now or never. | ||
| We either save it in 2024 or we lose it forever. | ||
| So, you know, it's really a race to the finish. | ||
| It's exponential. | ||
| growth of treason on the left of bleeding out on the left and of raising up this remnant army to fight back and save our country on the right and really it comes down to who gets across the finish line. | ||
| Um, Ben, this talk, the reason they're having these events, this caucus, the caucuses are a little complicated. | ||
| I mean, Iowa's a throwback and New Hampshire's really a throwback too with their primary. | ||
| Don't ask me to explain. | ||
| Because in New Hampshire you have the town hall meetings. | ||
| This is the reason these two, and I'm glad, so glad that President Trump demanded that they be the first two, because they're a throwback. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| ...to how America govern themselves, where you gotta get to know people, you just can't do it with TV ads. | ||
| This caucus event is a training event. | ||
| You're actually training people, because the caucus is what, in mid-January. | ||
| We're a month away, right? | ||
| This is to train those people. | ||
| So you say this is the leadership of the warrior class. | ||
| These are not just the base, this is the leadership of the base. | ||
| They're there to be trained so they know what happens on caucus night, correct? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And you know, don't ask me to explain how a caucus works. | ||
| I'd be here all night and I'd probably still be confused. | ||
| But it's basically, I mean, you talk about the hardest core voters in America, when you're going to go and spend an entire day at an event, and then just to get your vote at the end or your Your decision at the end. | ||
| These are hardcore people. | ||
| And so what they realize, though, I think the grassroots in particular, the leaders of the base of the party here, realize they've got to expand that. | ||
| They've got to educate people. | ||
| They have to bring people together. | ||
| And because it's a complicated system, because it's a commitment, it's not just showing up for a few minutes. | ||
| Unless you're in Arizona and the printers go down, you've got to wait for six hours. | ||
| It's different than most other places where you can show up, 10 minutes, cast your vote and go home. | ||
| Here, they're really having to mobilize a lot more people to show up and say, look, this is that important, especially in the primary, to set the stage. | ||
| We can't have any more neocons, can't have the Nikki Haley's, can't have the Johnny-come-lately's behind, you know, just trying to tear down a President Trump. | ||
| They see the stakes. | ||
| They see what's happening. | ||
| And so this is really setting the stage, and good for them. | ||
| I mean, it's about time the Republican Party step up and say, we're going to win this thing. | ||
| And I just spoke to the AG here, AG Byrd, and her focus. | ||
| It's funny, the left is coming after her, attacking her, still supporting President Trump, and she's standing strong. | ||
| She's inviting everybody to go to find out about more. | ||
| If you don't know how to do the caucus, again, I'm not going to explain it to you. | ||
| There's information. | ||
| You can go to the AG's website. | ||
| You can go to the Iowa caucus websites. | ||
| Get that information and commit to doing it. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| Tonight they're having people sign up to commit to caucus. | ||
| No, we're not. | ||
| We're going to go to break. | ||
| Like I said, we're producing here, we're making this up. | ||
| A huge day. | ||
| Do people know, Ben, yet, the impact of what's happened? | ||
| So, to pull the camera back for a second. | ||
| A pretty historic day. | ||
| Number one, Hunter Biden blows off Congress and gives a presser for five, reads a statement for five minutes, then says he's prepared, he's here to answer all questions publicly, then runs away from the sticks before the media gets him. | ||
| They then have a heated debate on the floor for an hour, and then they're putting it to a vote right now. | ||
| To begin a formal impeachment inquiry and I've been told by sources that there's overwhelming evidence that will be put forth that will eviscerate the Biden crime family and will take this to a house eventually and people don't think that's too far off. | ||
| I mean, in February and March for an impeachment vote. | ||
| So this is historic. | ||
| Also, finally, the Supreme Court has gotten involved. | ||
| Jack Smith threw a Hail Mary on Monday, and now Chutkan has stayed everything in the case. | ||
| So the 4 March date is off. | ||
| That's gone. | ||
| As I've said, I don't know how they start that trial in two years. | ||
| Now, I think we also know that the Manhattan case, I think, is going to come to some resolution in mid-January, the end of January. | ||
| Bottom line, and it looks like the case in Florida is going to be also delayed. | ||
| The lawfare that they've tried to run on Trump, because they can't beat him at the ballot box. | ||
| They didn't beat him in 2020. | ||
| These people are smart. | ||
| They know they didn't beat him. | ||
| They know they stole it. | ||
| Rasmussen poll out today, the Rasmussen poll, Gavin Getter, 20% of the American voters that Rasmussen polled, 20%, said they illegally filled out the mail-in ballots. | ||
| They've illegally filled them out. | ||
| Either they didn't live in the places, they filled it out for somebody else, which is against the law. | ||
| So you see, this whole thing, the lawfare thing is starting to crumble. | ||
| Not that they're still not coming. | ||
| We can't take a breather here. | ||
| Trump's up in Iowa. | ||
| Trump is up in New Hampshire. | ||
| Trump is now, the lawfare thing is coming unglued and they're going to make it up. | ||
| Watch MSNBC tonight, we'll be pulling it. | ||
| And you see the enthusiasm. | ||
| You think Nikki Haley's got this kind of group in the band? | ||
| Tell us about how far around the gymnasium are they wrapped? | ||
| Yeah, they go all the way around. | ||
| By the way, a couple things I want to say. | ||
| I wish I would have been there in D.C. | ||
| We need people. | ||
| The fact that Hunter Biden showed up and he did not get slammed by the media, we've got to have people that go out there and question these guys and make them uncomfortable at the minimum, at the bare minimum. | ||
| It's outrageous that he can walk up to a podium and do that. | ||
| But the people here get it. | ||
| They absolutely get it. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead, Steve. | ||
| Ben, hang on one second. | ||
| We just hit 218, Mark, to open a formal impeachment inquiry. | ||
| Remember this day. | ||
| A lot of people have dismissed this. | ||
| And of course, we've been on Comer and these guys to get on with it. | ||
| This changes everything. | ||
| This changes about these subpoenas. | ||
| This changes how they can get witnesses in. | ||
| This train is going to leave the station. | ||
| And remember, it's incumbent upon this audience to call and talk to your representative. | ||
| We ain't looking for a shiny toy here. | ||
| We're not looking for a diversion. | ||
| We're not looking for a diversion technique. | ||
| There's a horrible photo that's just come out. | ||
| I think Jake Sherman, the guys at Punchbowl, have just tweeted out of, and I'm not making this up, Paul Ryan coming down from the Speaker's office with Speaker Johnson. | ||
| I think they had lunch or something. | ||
| Note to Speaker Johnson's comm staff and his chief of staff, having Paul Ryan in on the, you know, 72 hours or 48 hours before you take off for three weeks and then come back, avoiding the financial catastrophe, having Paul Ryan Who has eviscerated President Trump, bad-mouthed President Trump. | ||
| As a sitting board member of Murdoch News, on the Murdoch board, trashing President Trump is a horrible look. | ||
| You should be ashamed of yourself, Speaker, and we've been very nice, very nice, but you should be ashamed of yourself. | ||
| Why are you hanging around a guy like Paul Ryan? | ||
| I don't want to say Paul Ryan as a former speaker was another failed speaker. | ||
| You don't need to learn anything from McCarthy or Boehner or Ryan or any of them. | ||
| They're all losers. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Your time is precious. | ||
| The time is the most important commodity you have. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Okay, so a formal impeachment inquiry and people say, oh, this is terrible. | ||
| The donors say, no, no, no, no. | ||
| You watch to the information that comes on this. | ||
| The American people are going to throw up in their mouth. | ||
| Is that too much information? | ||
| Short break. | ||
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| It's a time of turbulence. | ||
| We just opened an impeachment inquiry, formally opened. | ||
| You saw how quickly Nancy Pelosi did. | ||
| I think Nancy Pelosi, they did theirs. | ||
| We started war room impeachment on that. | ||
| I think the end of September, beginning of October. | ||
| President Trump was impeached right after Thanksgiving, right? | ||
| They took it over to the Senate, started in January. | ||
| This train's going to leave the station quickly. | ||
| They've got a lot of information. | ||
| And they're going to be hammers in the subpoena. | ||
| Remember, we have to hold ourselves up to a standard. | ||
| We can't let this be a shiny toy. | ||
| It has to be real. | ||
| It has to be real because he sold out the country. | ||
| He sold out the country. | ||
| Now, you think turbulence is starting? | ||
| Now that we're backing up They're lawfare. | ||
| Remember, they thought they're going to take Trump out by that. | ||
| They're not going to take Trump out by the lawfare. | ||
| Not going to. | ||
| We're not going to work. | ||
| We're not going to let it happen. | ||
| Also, Biden is going to have to stand and face the music, and there's no they can't shift by now. | ||
| That's why I keep telling people we can't do this. | ||
| There's no control. | ||
| There's no convening authority. | ||
| The Democrats have the DNC's too weak to change by now. | ||
| They would love to change by now for Big Mike or for or for Whitmer. | ||
| Or from the pretty boy and Lady Macbeth, uh, in, uh, in California, right? | ||
| They would love to do that. | ||
| It ain't that easy. | ||
| It's quite hard. | ||
| That's why we have to show the nation the crimes. | ||
| The country is going to have to embrace the catastrophic consequences of a stolen election. | ||
| One, you put a crime family in there. | ||
| You saw Hunter Biden. | ||
| If that's the best you can do, Abby Lowe and Hunter Biden, you got to bring it. | ||
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| Ben Berquam in Iowa. | ||
| Give us your summary. | ||
| The 7.30 Eastern time, Grace and Mo will have us up on Getter and on Rumble. | ||
| Real America's Voice is going to cover it also. | ||
| Ben, you'll be there. | ||
| What do you got in store for us? | ||
| Yeah, Steve, we'll be here. | ||
| We're going to be covering it. | ||
| President Trump's going to come out. | ||
| He's going to be on fire. | ||
| He's coming out swinging. | ||
| He's the only guy that could do this. | ||
| He's the only guy that could take the arrows to the back that he's taken. | ||
| Nobody else could do that. | ||
| Nikki Haley couldn't do that. | ||
| Ron DeSantis couldn't do that. | ||
| Vivek couldn't do that. | ||
| None of these guys can do that. | ||
| It's only President Trump for 2024. | ||
| People got to understand that you got to be hyper focused. | ||
| Don't be distracted. | ||
| Stay focused on your call, your life, what the God has the mission for your life and do that thing. | ||
| The left is going to continue to lose it. | ||
| The Democrats are losing their mind. | ||
| They don't want Joe Biden as the candidate because they know how bad it is. | ||
| But the importance of this impeachment inquiry, it has to be overwhelming evidence to where they cannot ignore it. | ||
| We have to show that evidence. | ||
| And again, stay focused on the mission. | ||
| Ben Berkram, social media, where do people get you to follow you, sir? | ||
| At Ben Berkwam on all social media. | ||
| You have to see these interviews I got with the black men of Chicago. | ||
| They are rising up. | ||
| It's time for black men to take back the head of the household. | ||
| It's time for them to take back the communities. | ||
| You guys have to see this. | ||
| At Ben Berkwam and then social media, I mean, excuse me, website, frontlineamerica.com, americasvoice.news. | ||
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| I never talk about that, but you can check it out. | ||
| Get all your MAGA swag. | ||
| I can't believe Ben Burcroft's making a pitch on War Room. | ||
| Good lord, dude. | ||
| Where's my producer? | ||
| Ben Burcroft! | ||
| I got my pillows, too! | ||
| I got my pillows, too! | ||
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So don't, don't, don't, don't sell any lumpy pillows on my show. | |
| He doesn't sell any lumpy pillows. | ||
| Coralville. | ||
| God almighty. | ||
| Where's Sig? | ||
| Where's Parker? | ||
| Get me a producer out there. | ||
| Rob, help me out here, bro. | ||
| Ben Berquam, great job in Chicago. | ||
| I think Bruce Wright's going to get hooked up in that. | ||
| It's just fantastic. | ||
| Convergence of forces. | ||
| Historic day today, folks. | ||
| Very historic day. | ||
| A lot of things happening. | ||
| Look, we're not going to get lazy. | ||
| We're going to hit it and work every day. | ||
| In the next hour. | ||
| And by the way, Ben's at Coralville, 730 Eastern Time. | ||
| Trump will talk. | ||
| Real America's Voice will be up. | ||
| We're going to pull it up on Getter and Rumble. | ||
| We'll be doing some live chat. | ||
| I'll be jumping in there. | ||
| President Trump on a roll right now. | ||
| Of course, the law firm, I'm sure he's going to have a couple of things about that, say we'll also be monitoring, particularly MSNBC. | ||
| We'll see how they spin it tonight. | ||
| There may be a couple of three long faces because they were getting onto each other's throat. | ||
| They're getting into each other's throats here earlier. | ||
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| Hey, security from foreign actors, but don't let, you know, since the domestic surveillance, cellular control, FISA is going to go through. | ||
| They're going to stick that in the NDA. | ||
| The NDA vote, I think, is going to be tomorrow. | ||
| We will cover it. | ||
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| You guys have had a lot of strokes so far. | ||
| Make sure we get this impeachment over the top. | ||
| That starts now. | ||
| We've got to stop the NDA. | ||
| We've got to stop FISA. | ||
| Ukraine, I think, is going in our direction. | ||
| It could always change, but they've heard your voice and I'm hearing feedback that you're coming at them and coming at them hard. | ||
| And that's what's terrific. | ||
| You're coming at them and coming at them hard. | ||
| I want to thank Tucker earlier today, came on the show. | ||
| Tucker's going to be with us out at AmFest with Charlie Kirk. | ||
| If you can make it out there in the greater Phoenix area, really want you guys to come out there, particularly in the fact that we're going to be doing, I don't know, hours of shows on Monday and Tuesday live. | ||
| We get to meet all the War Impossi. | ||
| I'm going to speak on Sunday. | ||
| I think tomorrow I'll have my time. | ||
| I'll be able to get you guys. | ||
| If you're going to come, I'd love to have you come to the speech and maybe even throw down hard here. | ||
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| Kate, Natalie Winters is up next about Taylor Swift. | ||
| Don't dismiss this. | ||
| We're always here to give you signal, not noise. | ||
| There's this rising revolt of what I call the Swifties, and Taylor Swift is quite a powerful political force. | ||
| Now, our own Natalie Winters is going to break it all down to you. | ||
| We're going to leave you with Lady No Grady. | ||
| Modern Day Holy War, take us out. | ||
| Natalie Winters will be back here in just a moment. | ||
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