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Dec. 13, 2023 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3243: Hunter Biden Whines At The Mic

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unidentified		I'm here today to make sure that the House Committee's illegitimate investigations of my family did not proceed on distortions, manipulated evidence, and lies.
		And I'm here today to acknowledge that I've made mistakes in my life and wasted opportunities and privileges I was afforded.
		For that, I'm responsible.
		For that, I'm accountable.
		And for that, I'm making amends.
		But I'm also here today to correct how the MAGA right has portrayed me for their political purposes.
		I am first and foremost a son, a father, a brother, and a husband from a loving and supportive family.
		I'm proud to have earned degrees from Georgetown University and Yale Law School.
		I'm proud of my legal career and business career.
		I'm proud of my time serving on a dozen different boards of directors.
		And I'm proud of my efforts to forge global business relationships.
		For six years, MAGA Republicans, including members of the House Committees who are in a closed-door session right now, have impugned my character, invaded my privacy, attacked my wife, My children, my family, and my friends.
		They've ridiculed my struggle with addiction.
		They've belittled my recovery.
		And they have tried to dehumanize me, all to embarrass and damage my father, who has devoted his entire public life to service.
		For six years, I have been the target of the unrelenting Trump attack machine shouting, where's Hunter?
		Well, here's my answer.
		I am here.
		Let me state as clearly as I can.
		My father was not financially involved in my business.
		Not as a practicing lawyer.
		Not as a board member of Burisma.
		Not in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman.
		Not in my investments at home nor abroad.
		And certainly not as an artist.
		During my battle with addiction, my parents were there for me.
		They literally saved my life.
		They helped me in ways that I will never be able to repay.
		And of course they would never expect me to.
		And in the depths of my addiction, I was extremely irresponsible with my finances.
		But to suggest that as grounds for an impeachment inquiry is beyond the absurd.
		It's shameless.
		There is no evidence to support the allegations that my father was financially involved in my business because it did not happen.
		James Comer, Jim Jordan, Jason Smith and their colleagues have distorted the facts by cherry-picking lines from a bank statement, manipulating texts I sent, editing the testimony of my friends and former business partners, and misstating personal information that was stolen from me.
		There is no fairness or decency in what these Republicans are doing.
		They have lied, over and over, about every aspect of my personal and professional life.
		So much so, that their lies have become the false facts believed by too many people.
		No matter how many times it is debunked, they continue to insist that my father's support of Ukraine against Russia is the result of a non-existent bribe.
		They displayed naked photos of me during an oversight hearing.
		And they have taken the light of my dad's love, the light of my dad's love for me, and presented it as darkness.
		They have no shame.
		These same committee chairmen have engaged in unprecedented political interference in what would have already been A five-year investigation of me.
		Yet, here I am, Mr. Chairman, taking up your offer when you said we can bring these people in for depositions or committee hearings, whichever they choose.
		Well, I've chosen.
		I am here to testify at a public hearing today to answer any of the committee's legitimate questions.
		Republicans do not want an open process where Americans can see their tactics, expose their baseless inquiry, or hear what I have to say.
		What are they afraid of?
		I'm here.
		I'm ready.
		Hunter, are you willing to go across the street?
		Why don't you?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Bye.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified		It is Wednesday, the 13th of November in the year of our Lord 2023.
unidentified		Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It is Wednesday, the 13th of November in the year of our Lord 2023.
		History being made already.
		I have to... Abbey Lowell... Hunter, by the way, if you're actually paying for your legal advice from Abbey Lowell, if that was advice that you should do, if the White House signed off on that, you should sue him for malpractice.
		If you notice with that big, you know, that big sob song from the- and by the way, you're not a husband-son, you're a pervert, scumbag, and traitor that sold your country out for money.
		That's what you are.
		And the laptop from hell gives you all the evidence you want.
		You in living color.
		You're a pervert.
		You're a scumbag.
		You're a traitor.
		Okay?
		And you're sitting up there whining, and this more Biden whining, whining, whining.
		Be a man.
		You're supposed to be past the drug addiction, then stand up and be a man.
		You're here, ladies and gentlemen, at the Magarite, what'd they call it?
		Attack machine?
		Trump attack machine?
		Headquarters.
		Here on Capitol Hill.
		I mean, I don't even know what to make of this.
		It's so good that the White House is somebody in the White House.
		So you wonder why his Biden's approvals numbers with 37 percent among independents of 35 percent, 34 percent, which is really praxis.
		I keep telling you, for the American people, because both parties are so divided and partisan.
		He does all this.
		He does the big windup.
		He does the big windup.
		I'm here.
		I'm here to answer questions.
		And then he walks away from the microphone.
		He doesn't take a question.
		You can't make this up, bro.
		If you're gonna shine on the subpoena, then you come up there and you say, I want the public hearing.
		You stand up at the microphone and you throw down hard.
		These are lies.
		These are misrepresentations.
		You've made all this up.
		You've shown a dark side when it's all the light of my father shining through me.
		I'm a being of light.
		That's what I am.
		I'm a Hunter Biden being of light.
		If you're a being of light and you're saying, hey, I'm here to answer all appropriate questions, I'm here to answer all appropriate questions, then stand to the mic and answer the questions.
		Can I just play the clip at the end?
		Dude, Abby Lowell, you have now convinced me you're an overpaid moron.
		If this is what your recommendation to your client was, is come up and make a big, you know, make a really powerful statement and let the American people see the goodness, the being of light that would be shining through from Joe Biden through Hunter.
		I'm going to play this right here in a second.
		Who did a bigger faceplant?
		Biden is the cooler.
		Who did a bigger faceplant this week?
		Zelensky or Hunter?
		What you just did right there is not sellable.
		But you teed it up, you came out, so we can go all into it.
		We didn't even intend to start the show.
		We had a whole different show starting.
		I saw that and I go, oh my god, they thought this was good.
		Who in the White House signed off on this?
		Who in the White House signed off on this?
		Who in the White House thought this was a good idea?
		Who in the White House thought this wasn't going to drive the story even larger?
		Insane.
		Let me play that.
		So he goes to this big thing.
		I'm here.
		I'm not going to get behind closed doors.
		I'm here to answer every question.
	And then he like he's done all of his life.
	What does Hunter Biden do?
	Because Hunter Biden is not a man.
	He's a little boy.
	And most people tell you some of the people that work in the drug things that When people start doing a lot of drugs, normally their maturity level stops at that moment when they start doing a lot of drugs.
	That's why so many people that have drug problems seem incredibly immature and not able to kind of really think through how one comports oneself as an adult in this veil of tears.
	I think he's a perfect example because it's still the whiny, you know, oh, beho, oh, oh, woe is me.
	I'm a loving brother.
	You're a loving brother?
	You're a loving brother.
	Let me think this through.
	You're a loving brother.
	Gosh.
	The grieving widow is like your co-star.
	The grieving widow is a co-star in the laptop from hell.
	She's the co-star.
	Much to the angst of your then wife.
	I guess before the stripper and before whoever you're married to now.
	Right?
	That she's the co-star.
	And you can see it up on the laptop from here.
	You can go to Garrett Ziegler's.
	We're trying to get Garrett, trying to get Rudy, trying to redo the show today a little bit so that we can get some immediate response.
	Hot takes.
	Something like that.
	You gotta have a hot take.
	No, bro.
	You sold it to a Chinese businessman.
	Okay.
	CEF was a Chinese Communist Party.
	It's the capital markets allocator, quote-unquote, the energy company.
	It's a capital markets desk.
	It's basically a capital markets allocator.
	Of one belt, one road, the primary mechanism that the CCP was using in unrestricted warfare to consolidate the Eurasian landmass and the U.S.
	head, the chairman who nobody who's been disappeared.
	And of course, Patrick Ho, I think his deputy, who has already been designated as one of the top spies in China.
	They're not Chinese businessmen.
	This is the idiot, Abby Lowe, you can't go out there, we're just gonna crush and rip your face off with this.
	They're not Chinese businessmen.
	One's already been known as a spy.
	The other guy was a spy.
	And that's not coming from us.
	Hunter Biden tells the New York Times that.
	Or tells somebody to say, hey, the New York Times is all over me because I'm on, you know, I've got the number one spy in China, Patrick Ho.
	They're not Chinese businessmen.
	They're Chinese intelligence assets or intelligence officers, which he's taking money from.
	Hello.
	That's not forging global.
	Hunter Biden, a drug addict pervert.
	Scumbag is just the person you're going to have forge global business alliances.
	You see the even the the bizarre nature of his thinking?
	No, that was all to get money to your dad for political favors and influence peddling.
	That's all it was.
	You're not forging global business.
	I can't even do this with a straight face because it's such a clown show.
	Biden, this shows me, you know, there's no convening authority in the Democratic Party to really take out Biden.
	This is what everybody's talking about behind the scenes, you know, to get him off the ticket because they got the Kamala Harris problem.
	You got Whitmer and Newsom over there salivating on this.
	Somebody's got to make a move.
	The numbers are only getting worse, particularly after his performance this week.
	And they roll this out there.
	And what they're saying, the Democrats are thinking, hey, man, if this is what they're doing to take care of this problem, because you're going to have another historic vote today, they're going to vote the impeachment inquiry, I think, today, later, right?
	And that and they know.
	And the talk is, if they got enough votes for the impeachment inquiry, of course, they're not going to start an inquiry that they know they don't have the goods.
	So they're going to impeach Biden.
	Biden's not going to be removed, but the process in the House will lead to an impeachment vote.
	This is logical.
	And this is why they want to get Hunter in front of the committee today.
	Kind of get things rolling.
	Off to a bang.
	The reason he doesn't want to go, he doesn't want to get deposed under oath.
	He's going to use every excuse in the world.
	But bro, can we play the quick hit?
	We're about to leave.
	Can I go ahead and play?
	But let's play the end and then I'll talk about when I get back.
	This is Hunter Biden.
	They're there to answer every question.
	Let's see the end of it.
unidentified		I'm here.
		I'm ready.
		Hunter, are you willing to go across the street?
		Why don't you...
		Why did you dare it with your father?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The fourth estate, the fourth estate, we're all on their side.
		Yo, dude, why don't you answer a few questions?
		Are you going to go across the street?
		The stupid hour.
		The Biden regime unmasked.
		For the perversion, the corruption, the treason, the bribery.
		Short commercial break.
		Back in a moment.
unidentified		I'm here today to make sure that the House Committee's illegitimate investigations of my family do not proceed on distortions, manipulated evidence, and lies.
		And I'm here today to acknowledge that I've made mistakes in my life and wasted opportunities and privileges I was afforded.
		For that, I'm responsible.
		For that, I'm accountable.
		And for that, I'm making amends.
		But I'm also here today to correct how the MAGA right has portrayed me for their political purposes.
		I am first and foremost a son, a father, a brother, and a husband from a loving and supportive family.
		I'm proud to have earned degrees from Georgetown University and Yale Law School.
		I'm proud of my legal career and business.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I hate, I hate what I call the man-child.
		This guy's been pampered.
		You know, he skipped one thing there.
		Hunter, Abby Lowell, please, you skipped a naval officer.
		Naval officer for 30 days.
		Father gun decked the entire system when he was VP.
		Got this guy in.
		Just like the brother got in, the lawyers, they want to be safe, served in Iraq, right?
		He goes down and of course people tell you in the fleet the thing, particularly for junior officers, senior, for non-commissioned officers and junior officers on board, it's the drug problem, right?
		You got to be on top of the drug problem with the junior enlisted people.
		It's imperative.
		That's the thing that can take a ship in a very bad direction.
		And most of the junior officers are berthing compartment officers.
		I was the engineering berthing compartment officer as an ensign in a JG.
		I might have gotten out of it by the time I was a JG, but it's a thing ensigns and JGs do with the chief master at arm and the chiefs in the various departments, whether it's engineering or the bosun mates, gunnery, et cetera, the different divisions.
		Hunter Biden goes down and they catch him selling drugs or distributing drugs to enlisted people in his first, like, weekend there, first, second weekend there, and they, like, do a check, a random check on him.
		He's got drugs all over him.
		Coming on to, I think it was Norfolk Naval Station.
		NOB, I think it was the operating base down in Norfolk.
		That's a quality guy you got.
		And his father, of course, got him out of it.
		They were going to court-martial him.
		I think he was in for 30 days.
		You miss Abby Lowell, you miss Naval Officer, as a father.
		And all you got to do is look at the... We got the laptop, dude.
		Just go check it out.
		You got a beef on the laptop.
		Talk to the guy.
		You left it behind.
		I think he's pretty covered by Delaware law about it was abandoned property.
		But that's for you guys to work out.
		But it's all there, right there, in living color.
		We haven't even scratched the surface on what's in there, to the public.
		Folks, you would vomit in your mouth if you saw.
		When you're looking at him, you realize he was raised by a pack of feral dogs.
		Let me repeat that.
		He's raised by a pack of feral dogs.
		So if you're going to sit there and pitch, because they're saying, oh, if you go to the recovery thing and you pitch this, and Joe Biden's love of his son, he lost one son, he doesn't want to lose another son to jail, all this sob sister act.
		Hey, it's called the National Football League.
		You guys are illegitimate.
		You stole the election.
		I know you stole the election because Rasmussen just came out of the poll yesterday.
		20% of the American voters, 20% of the American voters admitted in the poll that they illegally used mail-in ballots.
		20%.
		That would be 2-0.
		I think it actually numbers 19 point something.
		I'm rounding up for this one.
		Basically 20%.
		As we've said, and Mike Lindell's going to come in a minute, he's a machine guy.
		It still makes my, it's still too complicated for me.
		I'm just a mail-in ballot guy.
		I have been from the first one.
		I see how they stole in Pennsylvania.
		See how they stole it in Michigan.
		20% for the illegitimate regime.
		The illegitimate regime.
		And we got this clown.
		No, no, no.
		Let me be blunt.
		The reason I took, look, they called me up, Rudy and Costello called me up because of my deep experience understanding the Chinese Communist Party.
		Um, since I was the lead attack dog, remember in Josh Rogan's book, Chaos Under Heaven, they said, hey, they had the hardliners and they had the accommodations, had all these different groups.
		They've always had in every White House, but they had a new group there called the Super Hawks.
		It was Bannon and Navarro and Miller and others that questioned the legitimacy of the Chinese Communist Party to even rule over the Chinese people and their focus is to take down the CCP.
		So I brought up there and it took me, I don't know, 15 or 20 minutes.
	These docs were legit.
	They took money from the Chinese Communist Party.
	It was a way to have elite capture.
	The CCP does this all the time.
	This is nothing new.
	It's just the greasy way that Biden did it.
	And actually, if you go through it and read this stuff, I actually think he becomes a relatively as messed up as he is, as screwed up as he is, as bad a guy as he is.
	He's a tragic figure in the classic Greek sense.
	His father... The brains of the operation, by the way, is Joe Biden's brother, James.
	That's the super bad guy, because he's putting... Hunter Biden, he's not a business guy.
	He's too dumb to be a business guy.
	I have degrees from Georgia.
	Does that make Georgetown feel good?
	I thought they had a hard enough time Boris graduating from there and Steve Bannon graduating from there.
	You forgot Hunter.
	I have an advanced degree from Georgetown and Yale Law School.
	Does that make... Do you think, for a second, That Hunter Biden got into Yale Law School on the merits of Hunter Biden?
	You see how the elite work?
	Do you think he could have gotten in Georgetown and much less gotten out?
	Or just being Joe Smith?
	Could he have gotten into Yale Law School?
	This is a joke.
	It's a sick joke, but it's come back to haunt him.
	Because in his irresponsibility and his depravity, he sold out the country for money.
	First off, in Ukraine, Rudy and those guys, and John Solomon, they've done that chapter and verse, and they've got it.
	And that rolls all the way through the impeachment.
	I mean, it's so dark.
	This is why he says, Zelensky, why do you think Zelensky's sitting in the office?
	Do you think Zelensky's sitting in the office?
	Dude, yesterday, with a war that's lost, and everybody knows it's lost.
	Every paper in Europe's even saying it's lost.
	The military leaders of Ukraine are saying it's lost.
	He's over with the tin cup, and he gets a meeting with the president of the state in front of the crackling fire.
	I'm feeling all Christmassy.
	I feel like maybe I tossed a dime, maybe I tossed a 25 cent piece in this tin cup.
	They're allowed him to come over here and forced him to go see the military and get him up on Capitol Hill and still trying to shame the Republicans.
	There's Republicans sitting there going, it's not about the border.
	It's about there's no plan.
	There's the Washington Times headline.
	They don't even like they don't have enough interest in you that are writing the checks to even lay out a plan to tell me the plan since I guess taking back Crimea and the Donbass didn't work this summer.
	The spring offensive that kicked off.
	I don't know in June and was done.
	I don't know a couple weeks later.
	No, you don't have enough respect.
	How does Zelensky get there?
	That goes back to Ukraine.
	I'm not even on the Ukraine stuff.
	You got Solomon and Rudy and guys can give you Ukraine chapter and verse and show you how Trump had the perfect phone call.
	Hey, look, I'd like to talk about some of the corruption issues over there.
	You don't think the corruption has reached Time Magazine?
	I think Simon Schuster, who wrote the definitive piece on Zelensky, the cover story, a couple of weeks ago.
	He's interviewing guys in his government saying the corruption's out of control.
	It's out of control.
	They're saying it's out of control.
	I'm just talking about the CCP part, the part I do know and as a professional do know and do understand.
	He took and he says, Chinese, a relationship with a Chinese businessman.
	A guy was in federal prison for being a spy that they transferred back to China.
	A spy.
	Patrick Ho, that you said was a spy to the New York Times.
	Or in that conversation that's recorded about you addressing the New York Times as closing in on you.
	About you were dealing with the number one spy, Patrick Ho.
	Oh, by the way, his boss, the chairman who was on the Lincoln Center board and was fettered around New York by the Asia Society and all this, the top guy, he's missing.
	He's been disappeared in a Chinese prison somewhere because they don't want him popping up for this.
	This is, you're guilty of all the depravity, it's all there to see, all the perversion.
	I used to say on the laptop from hell, you go for the porn, but you stay for the selling out of the country.
	Right?
	You'll eventually stay around and say, hey, what's, what else is going on here?
	Oh, they're taking money from the CCP.
	I'm so shocked.
	Oh, like they didn't know Hunter.
	They weren't rolling in hookers all the time.
	Every time he went to China, there's none of that.
	No way they could blackmail him there.
	Impossible.
	No way they got him in drugs.
	Impossible.
	Dude, you're, you're a walkie.
	You're, you're a hostage to the CCP.
	You're the one that jeopardized your father.
	And here's why he's a tragic figure.
	His father's cool with it.
	If they were a loving family, who would continue to put this guy on Air Force Two?
	Who would roll him out in all the pressure these situations have?
	Who would roll him out to go fetch?
	Because he's the client guy.
	He's drinking what the client's drinking.
	Or he's snorting what the client's snorting.
	He's out there as the new business guy.
	The brains of the operation is the brother, is James, Joe Biden's brother.
	Joe Biden's just the asset.
	He's the monotony, because he's dumb as a stick, too.
	They got him talking to his business partner sometime.
	He's dumb as a tick.
	He was everything you would think a guy last in his law school at University of Delaware, dead last.
	Who Rudy and Trump know, heckle him all the time about how dumb he is, who spent 40 years in the Senate, where you can just ossify, you know, they got to roll those guys over because they're growing moss on their north side.
	So he's in the Senate for 40 years where you'd never, that's not an intellectually, you know, that's not an intellectually cutting-edge group, if you've noticed, with a guy like Mitch McConnell.
	A big brain in that one.
	And Schumer.
	Those are two enormous intellects.
	That's what Joe Biden's from.
	He's the monetizable asset because it's access.
	They're buying access and control.
	This is what you call elite capture.
	How do they capture them?
	They capture them either through sex, they capture them through stuff they find out about them online, or they capture them through money.
	And in this way, they had all three of them.
	But they had the hard cash, and they were going to make tens of millions of dollars.
	And Abby Lowell, who in the White House, hey Joe Biden, he set his dad up today to just be hammered when he's talking to the press.
	And Hunter Biden goes to the big guy talking, hey I'm here, I am here.
	I am here to answer all your questions, I'm here.
	And then like he's done every time else in his life, as the little boy man-child, he runs away.
	He runs away.
	He runs away from the microphone.
	It doesn't take one question from a media that's there to support this bizarre narrative that it's just a family that's, you know, the loving, the loving flow of the family's love is just flowing through.
	I see it coming through the screen.
	It's embracing me now.
	Like that clown at CNN that said Joe Biden, Joe Biden's arms hugging the nation.
	Remember that first?
	Remember that?
	Remember that beauty?
	Okay.
	We may get back on track here, but God, I might do this all day.
	Okay, short break.
	Back in a moment.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, remember, the engine room here reminds me that 50 intelligence officers signed something for the Brave New York Post.
		Emma Jo Morris, right?
		Miranda Devine are the ones that had enough guts to put this thing up.
		We were turned down by a couple, right?
		Daily Mail being one, Daily Mail.
		Um, they verified and put it out, stuck by it, didn't back off.
		It's totally, everything on the laptop is legit.
		You're going to have to answer all those questions.
		You can't pretend, oh, well, it's my private property.
		Well, I'm not so sure that works in criminal charges.
		And I think you're deep into additional criminal charges.
		We'll get to all that.
		Congressman Josh Burkine joins us.
		Congressman, here's a question.
		Tell us what, and we saw the Ukraine situation.
		Hopefully, there's going to be no money there.
		And the number, by the way, folks, is 202-225-3121.
		Our audience has a question, and they're like livid about this.
		Why are you guys leaving on Friday and not coming back to January 9th?
unidentified		I think that there's a resignation to the fact that finishing the 12 appropriation bills, there's a lot of belief we can't get there.
		I'm for finishing them, but Steve, I want the most cuts and that's what I ran under because we are a nation that's headed towards bankruptcy and it's got to be something that's substantial.
		The ability for this Congress to start taking an entire discretionary budget That is borrowed money.
		That's where we're at the entire discretionary budget, 1.7 trillion.
		And that's the size of our deficit last year.
		It's a hundred percent borrowed money.
		And if we're ever going to get serious about, uh, solving our financial woes, yes, we've got to do something about the mandatory side, but if you can't walk, you'll never crawl.
		And so many of us are just asking this conference, the Republican conference, can we, can we start cutting?
		So, uh, you know, in terms of the mechanism, Many of us, it's not the mechanism, it's what do we actually get done?
		And I just want to see the most cuts.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What is it about the conference?
		You're part of the Freedom Caucus, and we had Bob Good on last night.
		He really went through the numbers.
		What is it that the rest of the conference doesn't understand about the financial crisis the country's in?
unidentified		I don't know.
		I don't know if it's Stockholm Syndrome or what.
		It just makes people not see the reality of where we're at.
		You have a $6.5 trillion worth of outlays, and our revenue is $4 trillion plus.
		You separate mandatory from discretionary in the budget.
		Mandatory means that all we can do is adjust the eligibility criteria.
		In 1970, two-thirds of your budget was discretionary, where Congress actually got to control the numbers.
		Now, it's been integrated to only one-third.
		Of the discretionary budget for all this argument that your audience is well aware of, these 12 appropriation bills that are often talked about, that's only $1.7 trillion.
		That's the size of our deficit, which is why I said a while ago that's 100% of everything we're arguing over is borrowed money.
		The mandatory side, which is Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid, veteran benefits, other elements, but that's the bulk of it.
		Most of that's supported by the payroll tax with supplemental payments from the general purse.
		And so what's astounding to me is that if you really understand it, we're living on 100% borrowed money on what we're appropriating, not just adjusting the eligibility requirements on.
		How in the world can we justify not starting to not just go after waste, fraud, and abuse, which politicians are famous for talking about?
		We've got to start amputating.
		And if it's not in Article 1, Section 8, if it's not among the 18 enumerated powers, As Madison warned us in the codfish debate in 1792 that we have to be chained down to those specified powers, he warned us.
		You start going down the pathway of this general welfare, then it's open for anything.
		Well, that's where we're at.
		And so we've taken away authority from the individuals, from the states, we've taken it to Congress, and we're going towards bankruptcy because we don't understand limited government.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And to avoid a bankruptcy or to avoid a default, which we're defaulting, I mean, you've had a 17 to 19 percent drop in purchasing power.
		James Grant at the Grant Interest Rate Observer, which is the best one out there, talks about that today.
		E.J.
		and Tony's going to join us in a little while to talk about that.
		McCarthy's gone.
		His handshake deal is a non-event.
		He's gone.
		Is Speaker Johnson, who we support, we love the biblical worldview in a Christian, is he smart enough or tough enough?
		Because he's been amazingly disappointing the last couple weeks on the sense of urgency.
		Does he understand the urgency of the moment?
unidentified		Look, Steve, it's in his core.
		You can't work with ADF and all the groups he's worked with and know the Constitution.
		And what I just talked about, Article 1, Section 8, it's in his core.
		But I think many of us who respect him, admire him, are wanting him to, you know, press more into that constitutional element.
		And you're the average of the five people we hang out with the most.
		I think, you know, when you're getting Constantly in your ear, people that, you know, ascribe to the more Mitch McConnell version.
		And then you walk out of there, you've got to have enough people around you consistently talking about, you know, the power of the moment.
		And so look, Mike is a true conservative, and there are many of us that have great hope that he's going to do the right things.
		And so I'm not going to throw him under the bus because I know it's in him to do the right thing.
		And he's got to have more counsel around him moving that way.
		And look, he's got to have this conference.
		I mean, he's trying to manage a conference that when we put, you know, when I put measures on the floor, I'm only getting 80 to 125 votes just to go back to fiscal year 19.
		And why fiscal year 19?
		Because we've grown the discretionary budget 30% since then, non-defense discretionary budget.
		We've grown it 30% and you can't get colleagues out of the Republican conference more than sometimes 80, sometimes up to 125 to support going back to fiscal year 19.
		And he's got to herd those individuals, a lot of the appropriators, a lot of those that have been up here a number of years.
		And it's a, it's a paradigm shift.
		It's like putting on a new pair of glasses.
		And that's why Mike was put in that position, Speaker Johnson was put in that position.
		He is that new paradigm, and I'm looking for this conference to start seeing through those new set of glasses.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I gotta tell you, I think people, when you're back for Christmas, I think people may have an opinion about why you guys are being back and not coming back to the 9th.
		You come back the 9th, the 19th's the first CR.
		This is gonna be a total debacle.
		This is gonna be a total debacle.
		So, you can either get ahead of it or you get run over.
		Nobody's trying to throw Speaker Johnson under the bus.
		We all love and support Speaker Johnson.
		He's throwing himself under the bus.
		Because you've got to act with a sense of urgency and you've got to meet the moment.
		Congressman, your fight is in the Freedom Caucus.
		We had good on last night.
		It's very noble.
		How do people find out more about it?
		Where do they go to your site?
		Where do they go to your social media?
unidentified		Yeah, Berkean.house.gov or Congressman Josh Berkean on Facebook, Twitter.
		Steve, I want to add this really quickly on Ukraine.
		You know, one of the things that we're forgetting is Washington's 1796 farewell address where he talked about that we can advocate more liberty by commerce than we can by force.
		And I think what's happened is we've forgotten that economic security is our national security.
		And the strength by peace that was, you know, under the Reagan administration was when we had a $1 trillion gross national debt.
		We're at $34 trillion to your point.
		And so we've got to get our fiscal house in order.
		To all those that are advocating more spending overseas, the question is, what are you willing to sacrifice?
		In World War II, they understood that.
		We're at the same debt-to-GDP ratio that we had coming off of World War II, and yet this generation, there's no true willingness to sacrifice.
		Other people's money is easiest to spend.
		So it's easy to put our kids on this bar tab and say they'll pay it off.
		So the question to the Democrats, are you willing to give up your green energy tax credits?
		Are you willing to, you know, get rid of that thing that's actually going to just take away our growth potential by destroying the fossil fuel industry?
		Are you willing to cut some of that to pay for all these asks?
		And what about our borders?
		So those are questions that every American in reasoning needs to be asking.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You really don't support it.
		But it's not a debate.
		My point is they're going to say no to all that.
		Of course they're not.
		Because for climate change and they want more illegal alien invaders here.
		This is not a debating society.
		This is power politics.
		You guys got to sit there and go, we're not going to go home.
		We're going to defund all this.
		My point is, you guys are all well intentioned.
		But there's a fight coming that's going to be the ugliest fight in the House since before the Civil War.
		And it's going to be about the two issues of this.
		We just added a trillion dollars in 90 days.
		It's going to be about what must be done about this spending that drives debt and the nine million illegal aliens that are here.
		That's going to rip the country apart.
		We might as well start getting into it right now.
		Walking away from it is not going to do it.
		Anyway, we totally agree with you.
		You're one of the good guys.
		We have your back.
unidentified		We're trying to sit down and lock down like a donkey who's been pulled on by a lead rope saying, you know, we're not willing to go any further.
		And so the country's got to be with us.
		The country's got to be, you know, people up here are a reflection of people back home.
		Do you really want your government to cut?
		I mean, that's the question the American people have got to start answering or they keep electing people who just tell them what they want to hear and more free candy giveaways.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I think, I think, I think, I think if you go back and talk to your constituents, they're saying there's got to be cuts.
		Now, once the cuts come, you're going to have a lot of belly aching, but that's what leadership is.
		It's going to be tough.
		Anyway, Merry Christmas, Congressman.
		Love you guys.
		Make sure everybody in Oklahoma has a Merry Christmas and look forward to seeing you in the new year.
		We're going to have EJ on for a minute.
		We've got more bad news on the underlying financial situation here.
		We've got Mike Lindell.
		Mike Lindell, one thing we know we're doing is if we're not quite saving the Republic financially yet, Although I think we're trying to get down the road here by saying no more spending.
		The congressman is absolutely correct.
		I think we've got this Ukraine thing, unless they're going to pull some magic here, which they're trying to do, and we'll try to thwart that.
		202-221-3121.
		No on the NDAA.
		No on any money for Ukraine.
		The answer is no.
		Mike Lindell, for you the answer is always yes.
		Tell me what we've got going on at MyPillow.
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼		Well, we got great things going on.
		And by the way, everybody, because of the War Room Posse, I'm able to leave.
		I'm back in the game.
		I'm running around the country now to get our elections secure.
		And our first stop is Texas, and I'm heading to Arizona and California.
		But you guys made it all possible.
		My pillow, they're in really good shape right now.
		All the employees are busy.
		The floor is busy.
		And what we're going to do, I know yesterday we're going to do this exclusively for the War Room Posse.
		Yesterday was the last day of free shipping to get there by Christmas.
		We've added, Steve, we've got, we still have the free shipping, but it's not guaranteed by Christmas, but we added another upgrade that you guys can all do where you're guaranteed your whole order by Christmas.
		And we still got the flannel sheets that we announced here on the War Room posse, the War Room.
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		They make the best Christmas gifts ever.
		Then we announced the MyPillow Towels.
		Remember we had the MyPillow Towels $29.98 for a For a set of towels, a six-pack set, but we launched the kitchen towels here a week ago.
		All this stuff is still on sale.
		Go to the website and you'll see that we have all these products we are keeping on sale.
		There's that free shipping.
		Remember, you've got to get the upgrade, though, to get it for the guaranteed Christmas delivery.
		And you take that upgrade.
		And that's a discounted upgrade too, by the way.
		And it's exclusive for the War Room Posse.
		So there we have the sheets.
		We have the six-pack towel sets.
		You guys get yourself the down comforters we announced two days ago.
		We're going to keep those on sale too.
		60% off.
		They're the best.
		These products, I use them all myself.
		They're the best products in history.
		My employees wanted to do a special thank you, Steve, because they all got their bonus checks.
		So many of them were crying.
		They didn't think they were going to get them this year.
		Crying cures the joy.
		It was amazing, everybody.
		Thank you all.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We want everybody there to have a Merry Christmas.
		We know you're still humping all the way through next week.
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		Mike, thank you so much.
		We'll see you this afternoon.
		You keep grinding, brother.
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		See, Mike Glendale had a drug problem too, but he turned his life over to Christ.
		He's successful in saving this country, not a scumbag pervert like Hunter Biden.
		Short break.
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
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		What you need to do today is think.
		Cogitate.
		Think this through.
		EJ and Tony, people should know we do a lot of stuff here in the bond market because it drives so much of your financial life out there in the audience.
		The Grant Interest Rate Observer.
		It's one of the Bibles, I would call it the New Testament, of people that are in the bond market that have to buy bonds or issue bonds, but particularly buy bonds and trade bonds.
		James Grant is a legendary figure.
		He gave an interview, I think it was on Fox Business the other day, I think it was Tuesday.
		Business Insider, if we can put up the article, Business Insider did a great summary of his piece, his thinking, and here's what's so amazing.
		It's essentially what E.J.
		and Tony over at Heritage and Steve Moore's group talked to us in the War Room, I don't know, a month and a half or two months ago.
		In summary, it's that inflation is going to stay here for a while, and one of the reasons is that they've crushed the purchasing power of the dollar up to, I don't know, 19 or 20 percent, plus in the refinancing in the short term, which is, by the way, ladies, a very sophisticated way for Yellen to get cash into the system.
		Because they're rolling this 34 now, 34 trillion dollars of debt, a third of it, instead of going long in tens and thirties, which are having a tough time selling.
		They just keep selling the notes and the bills, which they can always sell, but at higher interest rates and therefore is going to be higher interest charges.
		EJ, James Grant gave you essentially a shout out, did he not sir?
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know if I'd go quite that far, but you're absolutely right that he has essentially confirmed what, as you pointed out, we said here on your show about two months ago, which is that so long as the Treasury is continuing with these multi-trillion dollar deficits and putting that kind of demand on the loanable funds market, you can't have Interest rates come down.
		If you do, you're going to be right back on the inflation bandwagon.
		And so all of these people who are anticipating that the Fed is somehow going to magically pivot, as they call it, to lower interest rates in the first quarter of 2024, I think they're going to be very, very sadly surprised.
		When the day comes and Powell decides to keep rates where they are, he simply can't bring them down so long as this insane level of borrowing by the Treasury continues.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You see, I believe we might diverge here, and I'm thinking through over the holidays, but I believe, so the institutions, and we're going to have Tucker on in a minute, he's got this great take on American institutions now, controlled by sad and weak people, and therefore the institutions need a rejuvenation.
		I think institutionally, and particularly both Wall Street, but more importantly the central bank and the way the Fed structure, Hate Trump so much and fear the MAGA revolution so much of things like, hey, we got to we got to look at the executive order, the emergency executive order Nixon signed about the gold standard that we a big part of us want to end the Fed, that they will do anything.
		I actually think that they may actually try to cut rates and try to juice it and let the devil catch the hindmost on inflation just to just to just to get some juice into the system.
		But we'll determine that at the beginning of the year.
		But the reality is, and you see Grant saying this, which you've told people, that this is why the credit card debt of 1.2 trillion, I don't know, 10 or 20 percent is non-performing.
		Kids today, this is by the polling that shows people between 25 and 35 are now coming to Trump.
		Because I keep telling you, hey, you're nothing but a Russian serf.
		If you want to keep voting for those, live like that, vote for those policies.
		There's a great awakening going on, not the spiritual side, but on the economic reality side, E.J., and it's an awakening that's driven by your analysis to say, hey, at this level of debt, the refinancing of a third of it every year is going to keep interest rates high and basically break the middle class, sir.
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		You know, Steve, we actually just got more data from the Treasury yesterday, which confirmed that the interest costs on the debt are already running at an annualized rate of a trillion dollars a year.
		We are spending more just to service the debt, not pay it down, but just the interest on the debt than any line item in the budget except for two, the Department of Health and Human Services and the Social Security Administration.
		So we've already surpassed our military budget in terms of interest on the debt.
		and it's not going to be that much longer before it becomes the biggest item, period.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We also talked about the trailing 12 months. The trailing 12 months is 2.5 trillion.
		This week we're going to pass 34 trillion.
		It's 90 days.
		The law of large numbers is starting to metastasize.
		We're defaulting all the time because you're purchasing.
		The dollar's purchasing power is down 20%.
		Any closing thoughts, E.J.?
		And where do people go and get you?
		Your stuff's still the best.
		Up on Twitter, you're great.
		Where do people go?
		What are your closing thoughts?
ej antoni ▲ ● ▼		Well, the best place to find me is going to be on Twitter.
		The handle there is at real E.J.
		Antoni.
		But Steve, I think you're absolutely right that this is really starting to break things.
		This incredibly fast pace of interest rate hikes, which was necessitated by all the spending, has caused problems, whether we are looking at the mortgage market, whether you're looking at regional banks.
		And all of these issues have not been solved yet.
		These crises are not behind us.
		They may be papered over for a time, but things are not better.
unidentified		E.J.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Antoni, thank you.
		Honored to have you on here.
		Great call.
		When James Grant is getting to what E.J.
		Antoni told this audience two months ago, and he's telling all the Wall Street big shots, that means we're giving you inside baseball, and we're giving it to you early.
		Thank you, brother.
		This shows up not just in your auto loan, your mortgage, the credit card, that 30% APR, particularly people under 35 years old.
		You're on the hamster wheel.
		You know, you got to have the credit card to gap paychecks.
		And when you get a bonus at the end of the year, it's just to pay down the credit card, that's when you're on the wheel of Samsara.
		They got you.
		You are gotten.
		You're captured.
		And it's only going to get worse.
		If you want to keep being a Russian surf, keep voting for the policies that make you a Russian surf.
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