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Nov. 28, 2023 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3205: Errors Lies Coverup In Georgia

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Baskin.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Monday, 27 November, the year of our Lord, 2023.
		A lot going on Capitol Hill starting to fire back up.
		Chuck Schumer and others already putting out warning shots vis-a-vis Twitter that Ukraine, they're going to muscle this Ukraine situation through.
		They're saying that anything to do with the border and bills are not going to pass or aspects will never be taken even.
		We oppose Connecting any border anything border to the Ukraine at all Ukraine's got to be a zero zero out the account zero Because these are just even if some of these things are good.
		They're just gimmicks right now You have to we have enough laws those laws have to be enforced.
		You need to start keelhauling people taking them up these officials and executives in the Biden regime and the NGOs and others that have initiated, structured, or exacerbating the invasion of our southern border.
		And Schumer and these guys have got to understand, the Ukraine thing is not going to pass.
		We are going to war over that.
		Because it's outrageous.
		Particularly the fact, and let me remind this audience, on the morning of 18 September of 2023, the year of our Lord, that would be just over 60 days ago, The United States passed $33 trillion face amount of debt on the balance sheet of the United States of America.
		$33 trillion.
		Today, as we sit here on the 27th of November, it's about, I don't know, roughly $33.8 trillion.
		$33.8 trillion.
		By the evening of the 28th of December, which is just about 100 days from the 18th, 28th of December, 100 days from the 18th of September, it will be at $34 trillion.
		Ladies and gentlemen, that is $1 trillion added in 100 days.
		And they can't say, Oh, this is a pandemic.
		And this is that, and this is that, and that's that.
		And this is this.
		We told you when McCarthy agreed to the Biden debt deal, this was going to happen and it's happening.
		And it is going to have a massive, massive impact on the American people and particularly a massive impact on the new generation of Russian serfs who are under 35 years old who happen to be American citizens.
		Everything has to be within that context.
		And there's going to be a firestorm coming back here.
		And I can already tell you, ladies and gentlemen, I will guarantee you this.
		It is not going to be pleasant.
		Also for Speaker Johnson.
		I understand you want people to have a Christmas holiday.
		When you get back here tomorrow, you should not leave until we get this situation figured out for the 19th of January and no more CRs, no more happy talk.
		This is a crisis.
		Okay, today we did an exercise and I wanted to do it the first day back because we're about a year out.
		And I wanted to combine, and thanks to Tara Dahl and the team, Real America's Voice, we were able to go to Israel, get an update there, talk about the geopolitical situation, talk a little bit about capital markets, and then brought it back to the polling around President Trump.
		Because this polling is clearly historic now.
		There's something going on.
		You can kind of feel it.
		You can kind of see it.
		It's manifesting itself in the numbers.
		But then, to make sure that we weren't, you know, getting too much hopium, we got to get back to the reality.
		The reality is he won in 2020.
		He got 74 million votes.
		Now, they didn't close the deal because it was stolen.
		And Trump is not in the White House.
		And for those who sit there going, well, he's the real president, the military reports to him, stop the fantasy talk.
		He would be the first to tell you that an illegitimate pretender sits in the White House.
		That would be Joe Biden.
		Now, Speaker Johnson is going to return, and I believe that you're going to see some pretty Quick and thorough action regarding impeachment maneuvers things to really get the impeachment rolling and maybe not even going to committee, but just getting right on with it and bringing those bringing that evidence to floor.
		I also think there's going to be something.
		I believe that's going to happen about January 6 because this evidence now coming in the tapes or coming out in the videos is so overwhelming and plus all the people that didn't testify and because it's central to, let's face it, it's central to this 14th Amendment fiasco in these nine states and also the J6 trial, the kangaroo court in D.C.
		And I think you're going to see some action there.
		And those are not going to be shiny toys.
		We're the first to say, hey, don't chase the shiny toys.
		These are going to be real things.
		Another aspect of governing, which is holding people accountable.
		But these budget fights, the appropriations fights, this money is now Damocles' sword over the nation's head.
		Everything is going to be in the context that, hey, we're broke.
		We can print more fiat money because we can't get the CCP to buy any more of our bonds because they always get turned upside down.
		With that, you have to make sure you win the deal, but you have to close the deal.
		One thing I'm very honored about is that in 2016, we had teams ready to go.
		We won by basically the same margin these guys won in these states, but we had people ready to go and we closed.
		Trump took the oath of office.
		For a host of reasons, and I don't think they were that.
		Remember, I'm not a machine guy, but I got a lot of time for the Mike Lindell's of the world and the General Flynn's.
		These other guys are all these machines.
		God bless you.
		There's evidence down in Georgia about all the machine from the liberal, from the liberals backing Stacey Abrams, putting this court thing.
	You got all these liberal professors.
	They walk through, they deconstruct the machines.
	Because remember, the machines were a Democrat problem before 2020.
	But Mark Elias and these people, Mark Elias, look, and people say, you can't say he's smart.
	Yes, he's smart.
	He's tough.
	He's cunning.
	He's not a good guy.
	He hates us.
	He hates MAGA.
	But he's quite effective, and he's out there working 24-7 on this, just like he was in 2020 when he put out the Transition Integrity Project.
	He was up in your field.
	Bill McGinley and Rahim, two of the smartest guys, said, no, deconstruct it.
	We went around the country.
	We went around the country as far as we could physically because of the because of the pandemic, but then we zoom every night and I mean, there's three and four a night.
	So we really went in fact later.
	Somebody said there's some secret recording of Ben and you know talking about Trump declaring victory.
	I said that's not so secret.
	I think there was 300 people in the zoom call at this conference and I talked about it every night.
	But it gets down to the fact that, you know, today we started in Arizona.
	We went to Pennsylvania.
	I didn't have enough time to give the appropriate thing for Joe Hoff.
	And Joe's written a series of books about this.
	I mean, Joe's been maniacally focused on this.
	But we must stop the ability to steal this election.
	And now, you know, people have kind of waited.
	There's a huge story in the Washington Post.
	Caroline Wren is going to be here about the about the RNC because they're supposed to be the mechanism to do this.
unidentified		And you can't wait.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We can no longer wait.
		We need people up on the ramparts right now.
		And this thing, we've got to get on top of this because the polling, the issue set, everything's going our direction.
		Joe Hoff, the great state of Georgia.
		Joe, you've actually written a three-part book series and people should know I've you know I have had Joe on years ago on Breitbart Radio from Hong Kong. Joe is a I think you're an auditor, you're a hammer, you're one of the best finance guys I know, you know more about the CCP's control of Hong Kong and their economy, but you've really focused the last couple years a lot on the stolen elections. Tell me what you take away from your book series but specifically you've done I think a three-part series now on the Peach State on Georgia and
		And Georgia is central.
		Arizona is central.
		Pennsylvania is central and not just that we cannot live in a country anymore.
		This questions about the base.
		Look if these guys when they win will go in opposition and fight him every day, but we can't be in a situation.
		Where they're stolen are their questions.
		We have to make sure we get all the facts on the table.
		Every vote that is a legitimate vote from an American citizen that's registered, that has chain of custody, that's legitimate by all the rules that are out there at that time.
		Hey, if we lose, we lose.
		If we win, we win.
		And then you fight it out.
		But you can't have any more questions about this.
		This is destroying the country like an acid.
		It's dripped into the soul of the nation.
		Joe Hoff, where are we in this, and particularly your report on the great state of Georgia?
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		Thanks so much for having me, Steve.
		It's an honor to be here, as always.
		And yeah, thanks for mentioning my three books, too, on the Steel Series.
		That's what we named those books, Three Books on the Steel.
		One was Setting the Stage.
		You know, she had Epstein on this morning.
		I talked about him in that first book just fact that Google was manipulating data, and they still do it to this day, but to push this liberal agenda on Americans, this communist, fascist agenda.
		And then the second book was on the steal itself, really the impossible occurs and how Joe Biden, you know, stole this election.
		And it was stolen, Steve, based on my professional experience, my professional background.
		Like you said, I've got 10 degrees designations.
		I've got a CPA MBA.
		I used to oversee a billion dollar block of business, the financial reporting and multimillion dollar blocks of business.
		I've done audits around the world.
		I was the head of an audit team in Hong Kong for years.
		And my professional opinion was at the end of each chapter in my second book is that because of this, this election never should have been certified.
		And that's why it was stolen.
		It's because it never should have been certified.
		And if you compare the results and the shenanigans in our election process, To the corporate world, to the real world where we have controls, mandates, and financials that can be backed by numbers, systems that are work, that are transparent, and data that is there that they will let us see.
		Then we have free, you know, then we could have free and fair elections, but we have none of that in our elections today.
		And my third book was on, was on the cover up where it's very clear.
		If we don't, if you're not ahead when on election day, when the votes all are counted and you're not there in first place, good luck.
		Because law enforcement, the DOJ, courts, these Obama judges, and even January 6th, nobody was there to help us.
		And so we've got to win this next election outright.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on a second.
		I know we've got to overwhelm them, but we also, like today, some of the guys talking about the courts.
		I mean, hey guys, the courts are not going to be there.
		I think anybody's got some fantasy about the courts.
		You just look in Arizona.
		At that fiasco with Carrie Lake, right?
		That fiasco.
		And that was in 20... Remember, that was in 22.
		That wasn't even 2020.
		We had no relief.
		People are looking to the Supreme Court.
		I keep saying this is what concerns me about the 14th Amendment.
		People were... A lot of people said, well, get to the Supreme Court.
		I said, yo, yo, I haven't seen the Supreme Court want to get involved in any of this.
		This is why these issues must be fought at the local level.
		I mean, intensely fought.
		So tell me about your series.
		Setting the stage for that.
		Tell me about your series on Georgia.
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks.
		So I was reached out to a couple weeks ago by a guy by the name of Joe Rossi, Joseph Rossi.
		He's a retired individual in Southern Georgia.
		And what he did after the election, this was all news to me.
		I'd heard of his name, but I never really knew the details behind all that he had done.
		It's really a, it's a story of a real brazen and courageous man who just was dogged in his, in his ability to just go after these guys and not accept no for an answer.
		He went after the Secretary of State's office for maybe multiple times, ended up sending them certified letters so that he could get a response from them.
		And what he started looking into was after the election in 2020, there was this what they called a risk limiting audit.
		And that is garbage.
		It means garbage is what it means.
		Let's recount fraudulent ballots.
		And that's what this exercise is.
		It's nothing of an audit, not from my professional experience, not at all.
		And so what they did, though, after that, they recertified the election and Mr. Raffensperger, the Secretary of State, said, see, everything's fine.
		Everything's fine.
		We've recounted these ballots.
		Well, there was a couple of things from that.
		One is we've got one court case right now, which Which is external to this is the court case with 140,000 some ballots that are stuck in the courts that we want to see because three people doing this recount said, hey, these things are all the same.
		They're carbon copies of each other.
		Maybe look like they're made out of machines.
		We need to look at them.
		We need to really audit those, not just count fraudulent ballots.
		Let's see if they comply with the what's going on with the requirements for ballots.
		Another case, as you mentioned already, was this case on systems.
		Where they found liberal professors out of Michigan saying, Hey, these systems aren't secure.
		A bad guy could hack into them and flip an election.
		This stuff is amazing, because in the corporate world, if a system's not secure, you don't use it.
		You shut it down, you take it out of production, and you don't even go there.
		So then Joe starts looking at this data from this risk-limiting audit, I say in quotation marks.
		And as he's looking through it, he says, man, there's a bunch of issues here.
		Tried to find the Secretary of State to respond.
		Finally, they do.
		And they're saying, everything's fine.
		Everything's fine.
		And then he points out, well, for Fulton County, there's like 500 or so thousand ballots and you've only got data out there on 250,000.
		So obviously it's not all there because you only have data on half of the number of ballots that were counted in this recount.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Joe, hang on for one second.
unidentified		I want to save the punchline here about Fulton County.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Joe Hoff joins us.
		He's been all over the stealing of these elections and now has a piece, a three-part piece on Georgia.
		We'll take a short commercial break.
unidentified		Back in a moment.
		We will fight till they're all gone.
		We rejoice when there is no more.
		Let's take down the CCD!
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we've got Shimmer out there.
		He's pushing, and they are pushing hard like maniacs on this Ukraine thing.
		Another $60-80 billion.
		Stone Cold broke.
		It's a $2 trillion deficit we have right now in this fiscal year debating.
		No real cuts are going to come.
		Can't do what we need to do for our own veterans.
		And they're talking about that.
		In the next hour, we're going to have Mark Jaftevic.
		He's talking about a piece that's up on Zero Hedge today that he wrote about how they're going to start using your carbon footprint.
		Your carbon footprint is going to be the way they're going to kind of monitor you, whether you want to use a plane or take transportation or do certain lifestyle things.
		The way they're going to do this is through the central bank digital currency.
		Now, this is why I need everybody to go to birchgold.com and get in touch with Philip Patrick and the team there.
		I want you to ask them just one straightforward question.
		Say, hey, Philip, explain to me why the Federal Reserve is working on getting a central bank digital currency, which is already banned in a handful of states.
		I think DeSantis and the Florida guys did it.
		Some other people did it.
		Why are they focused on that and printing more fiat currency to back up these massive deficits because it can't sell bonds to the Chinese anymore.
		The CCP don't have the appetite for the Japanese insurance companies.
		Why are they doing that when Xi and the BRICS nation are sitting there buying gold at record rates in 22 and 23.
		This wasn't a short term for not 22 or 23.
		Ask that question.
		Let's ask them point-blank.
		Why are they doing that?
		Why?
		You have ZEG, one of the big shadow bank.
		ZEG is the acronym for the big shadow bank.
		Shadow bank is kind of this nefarious, Joe Hoffman is kind of this nefarious netherworld in banking in China.
		It's totally unregulated.
		Now that's insolvent.
		It's one of the biggest financial institutions in China.
		The commercial property is collapsing.
		Xi comes over here for a bailout and to back us off Taiwan.
		So ask Birch Gold, why are the BRICS that have resources buying gold, and why are we focused on the central bank digital currency?
		Wait for the response.
		Just wait for the response.
		Joe Hoft.
		Fulton County.
		You've been an auditor.
		Being an auditor in Hong Kong is tough because, hey, every now and again the mainland companies will try to play some games.
		Let's just leave it at that.
		The CCP, those finance teams they have in there, it's not the accounting you learn as an undergraduate.
		Right, they kind of do their own thing, so you got to know what you're doing.
		Tell me, Rossi said it stunk to have, specifically in Fulton County, of the 500,000 they counted, quote unquote, they could only point to 250 that essentially have been actually technically certified?
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's unbelievable.
		And by the way, yeah, thanks for noting that about, you know, doing audits overseas.
		It's an absolute, it's not just tough, it's just an absolute nightmare sometimes.
		There's a different culture there and you better recognize it.
		Because people will tell you stuff and they're not telling you the truth.
		And you've got to validate everything.
		And that's now, unfortunately, how our elections will work.
		And you've got to validate everything.
		And we can't, because they're hiding stuff from us still.
		I mean, that's what Joe Rossi found.
		He found 280, you know, 200, made it for like 250,000 ballots.
		It's like, it's not all there, folks.
		It's not all there.
		So Secretary of State says, Oh, okay, we see what you're saying.
		Yeah, we must have made a little mistake here.
		And then they go and load this data online for 500 or so thousand ballots that were counted in this recount, which again is garbage.
		And so then what happened is Rossi went into this, started looking at this data that was provided and he says, hey, I've got 34 issues here, resulting in about a 4,000 ballot increase for Biden that shouldn't be there, the net increase.
		It's like this is garbage and nobody would listen.
		And he kept going on and nobody would listen.
		Finally, he gets somebody from the governor's office to listen.
		And so Kemp's office stepped in and they actually reviewed his work over an eight week period of time.
		They're like, this ain't our job.
		This is Raffensperger's job.
		He's the Secretary of State.
		He's the one who's validated all this, signed off on all this.
		But they came back.
		They said, Rossi, you're absolutely right.
		Your analysis is correct.
		And so then it was sent to the Secretary of State, and an investigation was created by this state election board.
		And they went forward and they eventually found, yeah, that's all true.
		And then it was sent to the attorney general.
		And as far as I understand, it's just a little slap on the hand.
		Nothing ever happened.
		In the meantime, Rossi comes out with more information.
		A second investigation started because Rossi finds that there's 17,000 ballot images that just are not there.
		And this was a second investigation that apparently the Secretary of State's office has been working on.
		Now remember, think about this.
		Raffensperger's been saying since before that phone call with President Trump that everything was fine.
		And yet we've got all this information, this stuff, just on the audit is out of whack.
		Those 17,000 images there's problems with, we don't know where they're at.
		They're missing.
		And apparently on December 19th, the Secretary of State and this elections board are going to address that investigation.
		And there's a third investigation, which nobody's talking about, and it's about Raffensperger.
		The Secretary of State's office has been, there's an investigation set up on him.
		Now this is the guy again telling everybody everything's fine, writing a book on integrity from the 2020 election.
		So Rossi is behind all of this and he pushed and pushed and got finally people to look at it.
		The second piece that we put up in the series is about how they lied about it.
		They started a lie.
		And we have Gabe Sterling from the Secretary of State's office on the January 6th committee saying everything was fine with that risk limiting audit.
		And yet we've got Raffensperger in a radio interview in Georgia saying, well, we found thousands of duplicate ballots in Fulton County.
		And here's the thing, too.
		All of this is focused on Fulton County alone.
		And just 140,000 or so ballots in Fulton County alone, there's still four times this or three times this amount outstanding that we haven't looked at.
		And so what Raffensperger says is this, and think about it, this is the same county that's now pressed criminal charges against President Trump for claiming that there was a stolen election.
		And this is the county where all this shenanigans are happening.
		The third piece that we just put up yesterday then goes into the fact that they tried to cover this up.
		And the Secretary of State's office, Raffensperger, has been working with the Attorney General's office and with this state elections board to cover this all up, to redirect the blame away from the Secretary of State.
		to the Fulton County individuals. It's their fault. Damn them. They're the ones that were wrong.
		Neglecting to recognize that Mr. Integrity and his team had the ultimate, that was their job, to ensure that the election was free and fair. And that's where it lands. Yeah.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Hang on. In a Cartesian, you know, world of rationality and fact, you got to explain to me so I can begin to understand this.
		How can a guy named Donald J. Trump be up for, I don't know, how many charges in Fulton County and how many years in prison?
		When all this is going on, it's open to the daylight.
		Tell me in what world, oh, by the way, maybe I should mention it, a state that's run by Republicans, Kemp, the Republican donors, I think they got to both the House and Senate.
		How can Trump be up on charges when this thing is clearly a fiasco and it's in the open about how uncertifiable it was, sir?
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've thought about that.
		And there was a group of IT individuals that Rudy brought in when he talked about all this.
		And they said there's up to a million ballots that are probably likely fraudulent in the 2020 election.
		They based it on the fact that these voter participation rates were out of this world.
		They say anything over 75 percent is something we'd really look at.
		But there's anything over 90 percent voter participation in these precincts.
		Would definitely be something we'd want to look at.
		There must be some fraud there.
		And there was like 150 or so precincts in Colton County alone that had greater than 90% participation.
		This stuff never made any sense.
		I think they're more right than the Raffensperger narrative that there was nothing wrong.
		And that's what we need to get to.
		We need to, we need transparency.
		This is what we demand in our public companies.
		But with these elections, we're getting none of it.
		And we still can't look at these ballots because of a corrupt judge holding up that 140,000 ballots that are supposedly all carbon copies of each other, all for Biden.
		And you know, it took us three years to get access to this.
		The system audit that was done by that Michigan professor.
		I mean, that stuff's unbelievable, Steve.
		It's very clear.
		And I'll tell you what, I'm going to drop a little bomb here, just a truth bomb.
		We believe, we have pretty good belief, that there's going to be some material information that's going to come out in Georgia that's going to blow this whole narrative of Raffensperger's away.
unidentified		It's going to just be, it'll be, it'll be nuked and with truth.
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		And that's what's going to come out.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Can you give us, can you give us a timing of that?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Is it in the next 30 days or is it like the day after the 2024 election?
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get it out before the next election.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
		I feel better already.
		Joe Hoff, great job.
		We're going to have more on this.
		This will make a grown man cry, I think.
		It's a sick of what's going on in this thing.
		It still hasn't been rectified because people have looked the other way.
		People in positions of authority have looked the other way.
		Joe Hoff, where do folks get you?
joe hoft ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can reach me at joehoff.com where I put all my interviews like this.
		I'll show this out there tonight.
		as well as posts that I put up that I share at the Gateway Pundit, and also you can purchase my books there as well.
		This is at joehoft.com.
unidentified		Of course, many of these pieces will work with the Gateway Pundit as well.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Joe Hoft, thanks for coming on here, brother.
		The brothers Hoft, they don't come any better.
		Do not come any better.
		Patriots.
		Patriots.
		Joe and his twin brother, Jim.
		I'm not going to pick who's handsomer, which one's the handsome one and which one's the smart one.
		Charlie Kirk, the event in Phoenix, 16th to the 19th AmFest.
		Make sure you go check it out right now.
		We're going to be there for all three days broadcasting.
		We're also going to have breakout sessions, meets and greets.
		You get to meet the entire team.
		We bring everybody out.
		The best speaker lineup I have ever seen.
		I've been going to these conferences now for, I don't know, 10, 12 years.
		Actually, maybe back in 2004, 5, and 6 too, so maybe 15 years.
		The best I've ever seen.
		The best.
		Don't miss it.
		In Phoenix.
		Short break.
		Caroline Renner on the other side.
unidentified		We're all gone! We rejoice when there's no more! Let's take down the CCP!
unidentified		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You know, the last, if you add Georgia to Pennsylvania and Arizona, it would make a weaker man go back to drink.
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		Caroline, Normally, when I would ask for an action plan, the RNC or the state parties would be on it.
		The state parties are kind of broke because the RNC is broke.
		Washington Post has an absolute brutal article today on it, not coming from Breitbart, not coming from Gateway Pundit, not coming from the team over at Citizen Free Press, but from the Washington Post.
		And it's pretty brutal.
		Walk us through it.
		Walk us through first, because I know you're very close to Kerry in Arizona, but you also have spent a lot of time in Georgia with that situation, the president.
		We're a year out.
		The numbers are incredible.
		The momentum's incredible.
		The issue set is with us.
		Trump is really actually leading a cultural revolution at the same time.
		And particularly drawing young African-American men, Hispanic men, young disaffected men into this movement.
		But I'm not feeling good at all about closing the deal, ma'am.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we were feeling good at this point in 2019, I guess.
		And then also, you know, in 2022, Kerry was up 11 points in the polls out of the election.
		So we certainly cannot get complacent just because we feel and look good.
		I mean, it feels like it's out in the country.
		I constantly meet people saying, oh my gosh, we need President Trump back.
		We love him.
		We know the country's with us, but we're working in a rigged system.
		So they have a ton of time to rig it.
		And in fact, You know, they didn't steal the election in 2020 in November.
		They stole it between March and August when Mark Elias and Mark Zuckerberg teamed up to strategically go into the six different states that they need to win and sue the different counties and change our voting laws in the dead of night and then infuse $500 million of private funding into our public election systems to rig our elections.
		And that happened, you know, months and months in advance.
		It doesn't happen on election day.
		The same thing with Carrie Lake, though.
		In Arizona, how do you actually even go and prepare for something like that?
		They literally just realized they were going to lose, and so they shut down election day.
		They changed some printer settings to print 19-inch ballots on 20-inch paper, and boom, you shut down the full election day.
		They have infinite options to be able to do this, so we have to be preparing on all fronts.
		Washington Post's article about today, which is pretty shocking, was about how the RNC is completely unprepared for that.
		In fact, one of the things I thought was strange is she keeps claiming in media interviews that the RNC is involved in 70 lawsuits in 19 different states.
		Then Mark Elias punches back today and says, actually, of the 650 election lawsuits that were involved at my firm, that the RNC is only a named party in 28 lawsuits in 11 states.
		I was actually surprised that Mark Elias called her out because I would think that Ronna McDaniel is probably the biggest ally to Mark Elias in that there is no fight being put up against him or up against the Democrats.
		But the real point of that story, though, was just how big of a financial problem the RNC is in right now.
		So they reported that they have just $9 million cash on hand.
		It's something I talked to you about on the show a couple of weeks ago.
		I'm so glad everyone's catching up.
		But that is the lowest amount of cash on hand that the RNC has had since February of 2015.
		And the excuse that Rana says in there is that, oh, it's because people are focused on their individual candidates right now in the presidential primary.
		But the problem is, in 2016, when we had a highly competitive primary, the RNC at this same moment in time had $20 million cash on hand.
		And right now we're in the middle of a fake primary.
		The primary is over.
		It's been over for months.
		It's arguably an overt since March or we never even started or had one.
		So then why are you continuing to waste the extraordinarily limited resources that you do have on ridiculous debates in a fake primary?
		Because meanwhile, Well, Joe Biden is out raising money and spending it right now heavily, while we are just sitting around with no plan to do that.
		And then she also goes on to say that this problem will solve itself when we have a Republican nominee and the RNC then merges with that campaign and then they'll be able to raise the big bucks.
		Well, that official merging happens on July 15th at the Republican National Convention.
		So you're telling me that we're going to have to raise basically $250 million between July 15th and November?
		You have to not only raise it and then spend it in a three-month window?
		It's too late.
		That's not realistic.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's too late.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		No, it's way too late.
		Really, you shouldn't have spent all that money then because Biden will spend $250 million between now and then.
		We have nothing to answer it with.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why are we continuing to do these bogus debates?
		I mean, the next 10 days, TV for Stupid People is actually doing a national debate with Ron DeSantis, who's essentially out of this thing, with Gavin Newsom, giving Gavin Newsom a national platform on Fox News to have an hour and a half debate.
		With Sean Hannity.
		An hour and a half debate.
		The following week, they got another fake thing.
		This time at the University of Alabama.
		Cost them a ton of dough they don't have.
		Got, you know, all types of people there.
		Got another left wing.
		You know, it's News Nation.
		They're with Megyn Kelly, a true Trump hater.
		They tried to kneecap him the first time.
		I don't understand how, and we got to hold the 168 accountable.
		This is not a Ronald McDaniel problem anymore.
		This is the 168, and they can't be able to hide.
		And you ought to contact your state official and say, we've had enough of this.
		We need to win this election in 2024.
		There's no excuses.
		We know about this.
		We need an action plan on how we're going to get out the vote, number one.
		And number two, how are you going to not allow this thing to be stolen?
		And starting in July, 15 July of 2024 is redonkulous.
		It's way too late.
		So tell me in your mind, what's the action plan here?
		Because the 168, and they say, well, the rules is for two years.
		Screw the rules.
		The country's being stolen in front of us.
		What do you mean you got some rule or something?
		Then go there and vote the rule out and change it.
		And we have to have some changes immediately.
		The thing's stone cold broke, but they continue to put these debates to try to cripple President Trump.
		Ma'am.
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we have to step back too and just look at why these things are happening.
		And it has to do with this revolving door of these consultants that want money and jobs.
		So why are we having another debate?
		It's simply because people that work in the RNC comms department or Republican politics comms consultants, they want contributorships at these very networks that we're agreeing to do these with.
		They want to be able to be put on TV and they want to be friendly with these executives.
		Who hate us, hate our politics, and nobody is watching these things.
		So that's the reason those type of things happen.
		It's the same thing with the RNC Legal Department.
		It's a revolving door into Jones Day.
		The expectation is you go in there, you spend a couple years as RNC General Counsel, you buddy up with these corporate law firms, and then you go get a job there afterwards.
		And so it is this, the revolving cycle and door of the consultant culture with these different groups are what are causing us to be in this mess.
		And so as far as solving it, Time's up.
		I mean, solving what now?
		We're going to the fourth debate.
		They're bankrupt.
		I mean, like, there's not really... I tried to solve it in January when we tried to make a new chair.
		And we... I mean, the only thing left that we can do is I guess maybe Rana decides to step down.
		In January, at their meeting, at the end of January, she'd have to voluntarily decide to step down.
		There is a mechanism, two-thirds of the 168 could step up and vote her out, but there's no chance that happens.
		Only 50 people stepped up to vote against her in this past election, and it's because... But hold it, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's a very different, you're a year out.
		What do you mean, why do you say it's impossible to two-thirds?
		Why would that be impossible?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		Because I spent a long time of my life trying to work with the 168 to say we have a big problem here, and only 50 of them were willing to actually agree and vote against Strata.
		So I don't think that two-thirds would, and there was tremendous pressure on those folks.
		The War Room Posse and others were calling in.
		Remember, they all were crying about, I'm getting thousands of phone calls.
		Like, they didn't care.
		They don't care what the base thinks.
		They didn't care what anyone thinks.
		They just said, no, no, this is going to be good.
		It's going to be great.
		And now it's a disaster, as we all predicted it would be.
		But I think that just they're not going to fix it.
		But I mean, I think there is a chance that Rana would do the right thing and step aside for the good of the party.
		I'm not holding my breath, but I'm also just The action item plans here is we can all start just bombarding the 168 members to call on it, but that's already happened before, and there are people that really don't like to be contacted, is what became evidently clear from that past time.
		So I think it needs to be some more strategy behind the scenes and a takeover, but still, I'm saying that you're getting into a very late time.
		Somewhere into February, the election is upon us.
		It is happening now, in Arizona at least.
		You don't vote on election day, right?
		We vote for months in advance in this country.
		And God knows what these Democrats are going to throw at us between now and the election day.
		It's going to be a million different things.
		And I don't see an infrastructure on the ground.
		I don't see an infrastructure of attorneys and teams going and looking at us and watching.
		I know in Arizona, we do have some things planned.
		We're going to not do as much.
		Republicans, oftentimes, We advertise too much what it is what we plan to do.
		The Democrats don't do that.
		They do it in the dead of night when they went in and changed our election laws between March and August of 2020.
		They did a lot of this quietly.
		But we have to be better about tracking it and to try and find out.
		But again, that's us playing defense when we are never, ever, ever on offense as Republicans.
		And that is where so much of the frustration is with our base and others.
		And then in the article, Rana also goes on to talk about how there's a big problem with their low dollar fundraising isn't performing.
		So yeah, that's because our donors hate WinRed.
		So you are sending them, bombarding them with text messages and emails from a platform that they all despise.
		I hear about it all day, every day, from people trying to give $10 to $25 to $25,000.
		They don't want to use this platform.
		They don't trust it.
		They don't like that when you process a credit card, it goes to FundStripe, which is funded by the Democrats and they're massive donors to Joe Biden.
		You had two years to change that.
		Actually, we've had three and they haven't.
		Everyone is still on WinRed.
		We're like, so, I mean, we just keep, we're yelling about things and trying to force them.
		And the establishment is asking, why are these things happening?
		It's like, it's, it's fairly obvious.
		We'll walk you through all of it.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Real quickly, the two or three things that you think our reconstituted RNC should be doing with the state parties would be what right now?
		To secure President Trump's obvious victory at the ballot box.
		Because if you get 74 million votes and you don't close the deal, guess what?
		He's not on 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
		And I don't want to hurt the feelings that people out there say, oh no, the military is still the president, the military still reporting him.
		Ask him.
		He would never say that, okay?
		That's why you've got disasters all over the world and invasion.
		You think if Donald Trump, the military reported him, we'd have 10 million illegal alien invaders in the country right now on Biden's watch?
		No, we would not.
		So what are the two or three things, we've got about a minute left, that you want to see happen?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		With the RCA, I would like to see a new chair.
		And when the new chair comes in, I would start with, the first thing, I'd get off of WinRed and get people onto a platform that they actually trust and are willing to donate on.
		There are ones that are ready.
		Or I'd tell WinRed, get off the stripe.
		I think that would tremendously increase the low dollar contributions that they've been starving for.
		The second thing I'd do is I would go and meet with these 168 party chairs that are desperate for leadership.
		I talked to the party chair in one of the swing states who hasn't heard from Ronna McDaniel in months.
		I would have a hope that a new chair would go get on a plane to be meeting with them and also strategizing with folks on what can I be doing to fundraise with y'all?
		How can I help get money directly into your club and into the RNC?
		What can we offset with different costs and have much more communication going on with those?
		I would also be communicating with others on how can we be increasing our voter registration in different places?
		You would be shocked at how under-registered we are among gun owners.
		It is just incredible to me how under-registered we are there, and also with churches.
		I'll be holding meetings with faith leaders and others, and I would have Scott Pressler in the office immediately to be helping lead that sort of effort.
		But the problem is with the RZ, the base does not trust the leadership, so they don't want anything to do with it.
		They won't work with them.
		media doesn't really want to have them on and they have no good communicator there.
		And then the fundraising is going as a disaster.
		So big problems can be solved just by basically a change in leadership would go an extremely long way.
		The other thing is abortion is a big problem.
		And Ronna keeps telling us it's a big problem and it's a messaging or bad candidates.
		Get in the room and figure this out and give some candidates some advice on exactly how we need to talk about this.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Caroline, what is your social media?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		me where do people get you?
caroline wren ▲ ● ▼		At Caroline Wren on Twitter, Gitter, and Truth Social.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Caroline, thank you for taking time away today.
		It's appreciated.
		They're trying to get abortion on nine ballots with initiatives.
		That's how important the abortion issue is for them.
		Pushing it hard.
		Short break.
		break. Back in a moment.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		One of the things you're going to hear, so I want to get this piece of nomenclature, but to think about it as we get ready to man the ramparts again.
		And this is this concept of trade-off between money and policy.
		What is going to be offered up is a number of policy changes so that we'll back off the cuts in spending.
		Remember, we called this.
		You were part of it.
		We said the deficit is going to be $2 trillion a year.
		That's what they are.
		We said we're going to be the law of large numbers.
		These things are going to be blown up and the refinancing of the existing debt is going to put structural changes into the economy, a credit-based economy, a consumer, a consumer economy that are going to be brutal.
		Right now, we are on track to add $1 trillion to the national debt in 100 days.
		Them's just a fact.
		September 18th, it was 33 trillion.
		We passed that.
		Today, it's 33.8.
		On December 28th, as my calculations go, which have not been too shabby, I think it's going to be 34.
		That's 100 days and a trillion dollars.
		They're going to come back in this fight and Speaker Johnson, and we love him.
		We got his back.
		But yo, yo, yo, this is Fight Club.
		It's going to be tough.
		Chuck Schumer and Mitch McConnell and all those radical Democrats in the House and Joe Biden.
		These people sit there.
		Oh, yeah, we got to take care of the basic needs of the American people.
		Well, you're burying the American people.
		So make sure you understand this.
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		We said that at the time and now we're left with it and have to stop it.
		And then we got to clean up after it is going to be that with the illegal alien invader problem of 8 to 10 million people are going to consume American politics, going to consume this culture and this society because the solutions ain't easy.
		More importantly, not only are they not easy, the solutions are full of pain.
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		There's no easy way out of this.
		We've got ourselves in this and we've got to get ourselves out.
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		What's going on here?
		Why are they doing that?
		And why do they continue to print fiat money?
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		So thank you, brother.
mike lindell ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, thanks for having me on, Steve.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, man.
		Cyber Monday.
		We're actually going to, I think we're trying to get Mike Davis.
		We're going to have some additional information about what's going on in New York.
		with this trial for President Trump.
		I don't even know what it is.
		It's like a Moscow show trial.
		Makes my head blow up.
		In the next hour, when everybody stick around, we're going to go to Rome.
		I got Ben Harnwell.
		The Times of London came out, I think it was on Friday, with an article off of also BILT, which is the German paper, talked about Germany and the United States have already told Zelensky and this team or telling them, hey, that the war is over.
		You got to get to negotiate the best deal possible.
		We're going to talk about what's really going on in Ukraine as Schumer has put up that it's the most important thing in the world to pass this $60 to $80 billion supplemental over on a $2 trillion budget deficit for this year.
		For this year.
		That now you got to add another 80 billion dollars that we don't have.
		That's got to be either printed by the Federal Reserve or more fiat currency or try to sell some bonds to the Chinese or to the Japanese insurance companies.
		I mean, we're in a dilemma.
		You're at the forefront of this because you understand it better than anybody else in the country, including the people on Capitol Hill.
		And it's going to be an incredible fight.
		Also, I'm asking Jeff Tevick to come on from Canada, who's got an incredible piece up in zero hedge, but really gets back to the central bank digital currency.
		We've got to understand this because they're continuing to push on, even as states like Florida say, you're not going to do it in our state.
		And then I've got Roger Kimball.
		I want to talk about this book, The Camp of the Saints, one of the most controversial books of the 20th century, and how it foreshadowed exactly what is going on with the collapse of national borders in situations like happened in Ireland the other day, with Ireland still on fire.
		Okay, stick around.
		We've got another hour here in The War Room, and it's going to be packed and loaded.
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