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Nov. 25, 2023 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 3202: Disloyalty Of The Military

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Pray for our enemies.
unidentified		Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
		The people have had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified		MAGA Media.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Welcome back.
		It's a Saturday, 25 November in the year of our Lord 2023.
		One of the points I want to make for the conclusion of the speech about providential and providential times, you know, I said in there 44 years ago, right now we were, you know, my, my Navy destroyer, which I was an officer on, I think a Lieutenant JG at the time.
		I don't think I made Lieutenant.
		We were heading towards the Persian Gulf and the North Arabian Sea, having been redirected out of Pearl for the hostage crisis.
		And think about how long we've been involved in the Middle East.
		My brother was involved as a Navy pilot.
		He was a helicopter pilot.
		He was involved in the entire Qaddafi situation.
		I've had nephews that have deployed, and one who was a first class petty officer in the Navy, I think did four or five deployments, all to the Middle East.
		Mo was in Iraq.
		With the 101st after she got out of West Point.
		So I don't know for 40 years the bandits and we were all hey, we were not we were, you know, junior officers or senior enlisted in the military just people doing their their service, but we look at the Trump and being providential.
		And honestly being providential for you because you're you're being called back now as Trump was called back like Cincinnati's to save his country.
		You're being called to, to save the country.
		That's why the assaults on you all the time.
		That's where you're being called fascist all the time.
		That's where you're being called dangerous all the time.
		And only you can put an end to that.
		We put an end to that by electoral victory and then doing the hard work afterwards.
		The hard work afterwards, starting in January 2025, after, you know, from now until Election Day, just a brutally tough election.
		Of making sure the narrative's out there, making sure the message is out there, making sure we get out the vote, then stopping the steal so they can't steal it again.
		And you already get the inclination, because remember, they only won it by, I don't know, 50,000 votes in a couple of states, just like we had won it before.
		Kind of just the reverse.
		Of course, they made up 81 million.
		There's no way he got 81 million.
		Trump's 74 was absolutely a blowaway number.
		Uh, is to secure that.
		And then after you secure it, then begins the hard part.
		That's what I was trying to in the speech to tell people, Hey, if you want to save your country, this is going to be a struggle because this thing right now is spinning out of control.
		I don't need to tell you that you see that in your own life, but for those of you that are not sunshine patriots and not, um, and, and, and are dedicated to your task and purpose of saving your country as hard at work as we have for the next year.
		To win and to close on the win.
		To win and both close in the wind.
		Then the real work starts afterwards.
		And that's why Trump is providential.
		We've had some providential times recently 16.
		It was totally providential.
		I was there.
		I was an eyewitness to that.
		We had a man.
		We had a plane.
		We had these great ideas.
		We enthusiasm of the people.
		We didn't have any money.
		We didn't really have a big organization.
		That was a self-organizing effort to elect Trump and that saved the country and stopped the Clinton.
		If the Clintons had gotten there and been able to take over the Supreme Court, it was a game set match, particularly their knowledge of the administrative state.
		That was providential.
		I also happen to think that the steal was providential and that divine providence wanted to show us how close we were to losing everything.
		And I think we've had a bigger awakening.
		We have a bigger army of the awakened because of that steal.
		And now people are awakened to it.
		Trump's return is providential.
		Most people, 99% of the people would just say, okay, I'm not going to do that anymore.
		I'm just going to go and live in retirement and have a great life and just do it.
		You know, join my children, my grandchildren, my lovely wife, my money, you know, Mar-a-Lago, the golf courses, what the greatest life in the world.
		And people would, you know, come back, they would get off his back.
		What'd he do?
		He came back.
		700 years in prison, to liquidate your company, to have now fights all over the country about not just trying to throw the electors, which is totally legal to have these alternative electors, to put them in jail.
		You know, some near the age of retirement, people in their 70s, put them in jail for 20 years up in Michigan and other places, but also to take them off the ballot, to make sure you don't have a choice.
		There's so much for democracy to take your choice away.
		And all that takes money and resources, and particularly the opportunity cost to focus on it.
	But you should be honored to live in this time, because this is the greatest crisis the American Republic has ever faced.
	We've never been invaded by anywhere near 10 million illegal alien foreign invaders that have to be removed.
	We've never had a financial crisis anywhere near this.
	This is gonna make the Great Depression look like a picnic.
	Because the balance sheet of the country is so far gone, and the elites just continue to print money.
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	Plus, we've done this series on currency.
	Now, the end of the dollar empire.
	And if you don't believe it, the Saudis and the CCP just did a deal the other day.
	It was $7 billion.
	The grand scheme of things is not huge, but it's a start.
	The Saudis taking the currency risk of not using petrodollars.
	Taking currency risk by using Chinese currency to do a big trade with them.
	As the Persians are already doing in a 40-year output deal.
	So it's incumbent upon you to understand this.
	Mo, give me your perspective.
	You spent, we're going to get into, I want to break this down.
	General Milley's, I've been wanting to do this.
	I've been wanting to do this.
	And finally, we're going to get a chance today to do it.
	Because Milley's a very important character in the Trump first term and the one held up that, oh, Trump says be executed.
	He's, Trump did not say that.
	He talked about trees, and he talked about other things, and I think Milley, between his book, his public pronouncements, and this CBS 60 Minutes interview, basically hoist himself in his own petard, as the saying goes.
	Mo, just give your assessment of the military with Milley as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
	Just give me a minute or two of your thoughts on that.
	I know you have very strong opinions about this before we start to break down the interview.
maureen bannon ▲ ● ▼		As we saw under Milley, you saw senior leaders, senior officers, junior officers get out at a rapid pace.
		That's why recruitment numbers are so low, why they can't get younger generations in the military right now.
		And that has a lot to do with, I believe, General Milley.
		The buck stops with him.
		He needs to take accountability for that.
		They're at record numbers.
		Lowes for recruitment and they can't seem to get anyone to join that they've now gotten rid of requirements for enlistment.
		You know, it shows the leadership within the military and that is General Milley.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		How woke was he?
		I mean, you get that during the George Floyd in the June of 2020.
		He was, I mean, absolutely god-awful.
		What's your assessment of how woke he was and how that rolled down through the ranks?
maureen bannon ▲ ● ▼		He was extremely woke.
		We saw him testify and say that he was talking, wanted to know what white rage was.
		It shows that the wokeness that he had, and then, like you said, it rolled downhill.
		That's why you have pronoun training, CRT, gender theory going on at service academies, still going on at service academies, actually.
		And that training was implemented because of woke beliefs that started with leadership.
		And General Milley didn't do anything to stop that.
		It's only gotten worse.
		We need to focus on warfighting in the military, not gender theory, pronoun training, things of that nature.
		You know, especially with what we're seeing going on and the potential for World War III, we need to focus on warfighting.
		That's actually going to help our military, not pronoun training.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well said, ma'am.
		Let's go ahead and play.
		We're going to break this down.
		Let's play the first part.
		This is the 60 Minutes interview with General Milley.
		We're going to break it on down.
		Let's play a couple minutes now.
unidentified		General Mark Milley completed a four-year term as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation's highest-ranking military officer, on September 30th.
		He told us he spent most of his time working to avoid a direct conflict with Russia and China, while the country watched him have a very public falling out with former President Trump, the man who picked him for the job.
		General Milley's time serving President Joe Biden had its own challenges, including America's calamitous withdrawal from Afghanistan, as well as providing Ukraine with billions of dollars worth of American military equipment.
		A few hours before we sat down with the general at the Pentagon, he had his final phone call with the commander of Ukraine's armed forces.
		The story will continue in a moment.
		The counter-offensive that the Ukrainians are running is still ongoing.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm sorry.
		Hang over a second.
		I want to before I get into that's OK.
unidentified		That's OK.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We're gonna get this done.
		In fact, I just want to rewind to go back to his the start of his interview, but to tee it up.
		Milley.
		Remember, as we go through this, Milley was the biggest proponent more even more than General Austin of pushing The Ukraine situation.
		The $117 billion, $120 billion went.
		I think half, $45 or $50 billion was military aid.
		Weapons and ammos that we don't really have.
		They took the ammo from the Israeli account to send over there.
		This was Milley, who's supposed to be the senior military advisor to the Kremlin.
		This was what he pushed.
		Let's go ahead and play.
		Let's go ahead and just rewind and start with his interview.
		Let's go ahead and hit it.
unidentified		...that the Ukrainians are running is still ongoing.
		The progress, as many, many people have noted, is slow, but it is steady, and they are making progress on a day-to-day basis.
		But expelling 200,000 Russian soldiers... Very difficult.
		No easy task.
		Very hard.
		Very hard.
		How long is this going to look like this?
		A year?
		Five years?
		Well, we can't put a time on it, but it'll be a considerable length of time, and it's going to be long and hard and very bloody.
		Russia occupies 41,000 square miles of Ukraine.
		The front line extends about the distance from Atlanta to Washington, D.C.
		In Congress this past week, Republicans ended Kevin McCarthy's speakership, and for now, more aid to Ukraine.
		According to the White House, of the $113 billion already committed, there's only enough left to last a few more months.
		With all of the issues facing Americans at home, Hang on, hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want to get to that after the break.
		Right there, slow but steady.
		He can't even be truthful.
		This is his exit interview to the American people.
		You would think he would be totally prepared and talk to the American people.
		This is unfiltered.
		There's no Pentagon Comms people between this, not the White Houses between this.
		And he sits right there, And slow but steady and this is not what they were telling.
		This is not what they were telling their consultants and advisors back in the spring and summer of was a 2021 when this war was in the first couple hundred days.
		They were sitting there every day.
		You heard people going up there that hey, the Ukrainian military can take the can take the Eastern Russian speaking the Donbass.
		They can take Crimea.
		They got all these expectations up of the Ukrainian people.
		This was Millie.
		Milley was the senior advisor, and he sits there, this was just a couple weeks ago, after the spring offensive, they're now getting into the winter part, there's no slow but steady.
		That's just an outright lie, there's no slow but steady.
		The thing ground to a halt, this is why Zelensky's having these huge mutinies, he's having a mutiny by his armed forces, because the military over there, they don't want to be the fall guy.
		When all this gets exposed, they want to be the fall guy that, oh, we were pushing this.
		Zelensky and the thugocracy, they're the beneficiaries of the $113 billion, and thank God that CBS actually put the right number up there, which Fox and nobody else does.
		Now, I think it's a tad higher.
		I round up to $120 billion, but $113 billion.
		That's what you've already put in.
		And Milley starts off with this, an outright lie.
		It's not slow, but steady.
		It was a failure.
		And the people paid for the failure.
		The American people underwrote it, but the Ukrainian people paid in blood.
		That's why there's over 70 or 80,000 casualties.
		Short commercial break.
		We'll return with this interview and my analysis of it in defense of President Donald J. Trump, next in the world.
unidentified		I don't know.
		There's only enough left to last a few more months.
		With all of the issues facing Americans at home, why is this worth it?
		If Ukraine loses and Putin wins, I think you would be certainly increasing, if not doubling, your defense budget in the years ahead.
		And you will increase the probability of a great power war in the next 10 to 15 years.
		I think it would be a very dangerous situation if Putin's allowed to win.
		Ukraine-Russia obviously is what drives this meeting today.
		The chairman of the Joint Chief— Stop.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Stop.
		Stop.
		Okay, stop means stop.
		I don't want to jump in here.
		That's just a bald-faced lie.
		That's a bald-faced lie.
		First off, the Russian military, I think it was shown as anything, is not going to be able to take on the Poles.
		Remember, the whole thing of Russia is coming across the North German plain.
		It's not coming through Ukraine to hit Eastern Europe.
		Highly unlikely.
		And the front-line nations there, Hungary and others, I think it was Slovenia or Slovakia want to cut off weapons.
		They want any more of this war.
		But the whole thing has come across the North German plane through Poland.
		I don't believe the Russian military has shown us that that's going to happen.
		And I don't think the Russian military or Putin or the Russian people have shown that they have any inclination to be offensive in anywhere in against NATO or in Europe.
		Ukraine's a different deal.
		We said that's always been in dispute until the EU and NATO started pushing people's buttons.
		And no, I'm not taking Putin's side on this at all.
		Putin and the thugs that run the KGB have always been a criminal class.
		They were a criminal class during the Soviet Union.
		But he sits there, look at the fear mongering.
		If you don't, you the American people, if you don't fork up another 60, $80 billion that we have to borrow from the Chinese, or even now they won't lend it to us.
		So we just have to print it.
		You're going to double this.
		The defense budget is $880 billion.
		You're telling me that in a few years, we're going to have a $1.6 trillion budget because of this.
		You're a liar.
		We're already in a great power war.
		The Chinese Communist Party has declared a people's war against us.
		Unrestricted warfare, they've been at us forever.
		Right?
		For the last five or ten years.
		Unrestricted warfare.
		Now let's get into the kinetic part.
		Huge story the other day in The Messenger.
		That talks about the Chinese are going after to crush the Muslims in China as they underwrite the Persians, the Turks, and now with this currency deal, starting with the Gulf monarchies.
		The Chinese Communist Party is at war with us now, a kinetic war with us now.
		Fueling a global jihad against the West.
		And the Russian-speaking eastern border of Ukraine is not the vital national security interest of the United States.
		He, above anybody, should know that he's the chief military advisor to first President Trump and then to Biden.
		And he sits there, if you lose in Ukraine, if you lose in Ukraine, you're going to double the defense budget.
		That's just a bald face.
		First of all, it's idiotic.
		And he's not that dumb.
		He went to Princeton.
		So he's not a complete moron.
		It's just a lie.
		And this is what they've done from the beginning.
		And he, He is going to be held accountable for this.
		This is what Donald Trump, how can you say to the streets?
		Because we're going to get into it.
		He does it on his own interview in this, in the book that Esper wrote.
		So let's continue on here for a minute.
unidentified		Chairman of the Joint Chiefs is the commander-in-chief's principal military advisor, but commands no troops in battle.
		I am obligated, regardless of consequences, to give my advice to the president, but no president is obligated to follow that advice.
		This past August, General Milley invited us aboard the USS Constitution in Boston Harbor, not far from where he grew up.
		We're the only military in the world that swears an oath not to a king, a queen, a tyrant, a would-be tyrant, or a dictator.
		We swear an oath to an idea, the idea that is American.
		And it's embodied in that document, the Constitution, which sets up our form of government.
		In 2021, General Milley had counseled President Biden to keep 2,500 troops in and around Kabul.
		Instead, Mr. Biden ordered a complete withdrawal to end America's longest war after 20 years.
		The disaster that followed will be part of both of their legacies.
		I go through the entire withdrawal from Afghanistan, chapter and verse, all the time.
		That was a strategic failure for the United States.
		The enemy occupied the capital city of the country that you were supporting.
		So, to me, that hurts.
		It hurts a big way.
		But no matter what pain I feel or anyone else feels, nothing comes even close to the pain of those that were killed.
		To those who served in Afghanistan for two decades and lost family members and friends and wonder, was it worth it?
		Well, that's always the question, right?
		So, 2,461 killed in action by the enemy in Afghanistan over 20 years.
		Was it worth it?
		Look, I can't answer that for other people.
		This is a tough business that we're in, this military business.
		It's unforgiving.
		The crucible of combat's unforgiving.
		People die.
		They lose their arms.
		They lose their legs.
		It's an incredibly difficult life.
		But is it worth it?
		Look around you.
		Ask yourself the question.
		For me, I've answered it many times over, and that's why I stay in uniform, and that's why I maintain my oath.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me have it.
		Let me have it.
		Mo, I have to bring you in here.
		Having served over in Iraq, and your classmates, many of whom have given all in the PTSD, but particularly the wounded, to have the senior military advisor to the commander-in-chief sit there and go, I don't know if it was worth it.
		I can't answer that.
		Well, if you can't answer it, who is supposed to answer it?
		I mean, folks, a 60 minutes interview where they're going up to the Constitution in Boston Harbor and they have a huge crew, they've set this up and cleared with the Pentagon.
		It's not like they called the guy and saw him in a taxi line and said, hey, we got a couple of questions for you.
		Milley, they negotiated this for weeks and weeks and weeks.
		Milley kind of knew maybe that's a specific questions, but they told him the areas they want to go into.
		As a service member with so many veteran friends, how do you respond to that answer, ma'am?
maureen bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's extremely frustrating to hear him say that.
		The fact that he hemmed and hawed and couldn't say, yes, it was worth it.
		You know, the fact, I don't know if it was worth it.
		Take a look around.
		It's extremely frustrating, especially to those that served in Afghanistan.
		While I served in Iraq, I had many friends serve in Afghanistan.
		I lost fellow classmates, friends that were killed in action.
		I have classmates and friends that were wounded in action over in Afghanistan.
		And to hear him say that, how do you think they feel?
		All these people that went over there, deployment after deployment after deployment, like you said, have PTSD, that have to live with that.
		Four years of peace and prosperity.
		say yes it was worth it. We went there for a mission. Now that mission is called into question these days but we went there for a mission. Yes it was worth it. We went there for that mission.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Four years of peace and profit, three years until the hit by the bioweapon of at least prosperity and...
		And President Trump, I think, got us through as well as you could in the year 2020 when, you know, BLM and Antifa and everybody turned the summer love into a fiasco driven a lot by Esper and Milley, which we're going to get to in a minute in this interview.
		But to have him sit there and talk about a strategic failure, just kind of, oh, by the way, yeah, it was a strategic failure.
		Dude, this was your job.
		And I was the point person for President Trump in 2017 on getting us out of Afghanistan.
		As I've said before, DOD, and I hate to say this as much as I love the military and the Navy, the military, DOD, the National Security State, will look you straight in the eye and they will lie to you.
		They will lie to you.
		When you actually ask about results, when you ask money spent, and people, you make a big deal about this six trillion dollar, they can't do an audit.
		Which is shocking.
		How can you not find trillions of dollars?
		Not millions or tens of millions or billions or hundreds of billions.
		Trillions of dollars they can't do an audit.
		You sit there and ask the most basic questions.
		The most basic questions about operation, about cost, about projections, about what's going to happen.
		It's either through gross incompetence or you just get outright lies.
		They've had, they had so much time to plan for the Afghanistan withdrawal.
		Remember they, we didn't get it done in 17.
		And the reason we didn't get it done in 17 is that they kind of pushed president Trump into a corner and lied to him.
		But it was also, so we extended it, you know, ever more.
		And they swore every year, Oh, it's only gonna be five or $10 billion.
		It was like 40 or $50 billion every year, just into a rat hole, just into a total rat hole driven by the defense industry and the greed of the defense industry.
		And then other people associated in the Pentagon and quite frankly this vast national security apparatus that surrounds Washington DC.
		I mean physically surrounds it.
		If you ever go take the road from basically from DC out to Dulles Airport that entire corridor going past Rustin when you get past you get past Tyson's Corner you go all the way out.
		That's all the defense contractors out there.
		It's obviously it's a trillion dollar industry.
		Every year.
		It's just exploded.
		But they can't answer with a straight face.
		Oh, yeah, it was a strategic.
		He didn't even mention the 13 brave Marines that gave their lives.
		It's just it's not just unfeeling.
		There's this attitude that that doesn't matter.
		That just what matters is the continuation of these forever wars.
		The continuation of these forever wars.
		And it's this mentality.
		This interview gets a lot worse, but right there when they asked the guys, the head guy, was it worth it?
		I don't know.
		That's a good question.
		I don't know.
		I don't know.
		Was it worth it?
unidentified		Hmm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me think.
		Well, you know, everybody's got to answer that individual.
		No, we're not looking for their individual answers.
		We're looking for you as the representative of the military, the senior military advisor to the commander in chief.
		Was it worth it?
		Can you give me an official response?
		Can you say it?
		Obviously he had never thought about it.
		That's not really an answer.
		That's just kind of kicking the can down the road and making up something as you go along.
		That's not actually sitting there for hours and thinking about this.
		Is it worth it?
		That's the questions we had in 17 where President Trump wanted to get at the time.
		And if President Trump had had a willing military, which he realized afterwards, it's got its own agenda.
		The Pentagon has its own agenda, which he came quite clear about.
		And that's why towards the administration, you see a completely different relationship.
		And it's going to be even more radically different when President Trump returns in 2025.
		We're not going to go through this again.
		We're not going to do this again.
		Particularly you gotta get people that are truthful, not just smart and tough, but also can tell the truth.
		Remember what Milley said right there, it's not an idea, you take an oath to the Constitution.
		And the Constitution has a chain of command that's quite structured about this.
		About who the military, who the uniformed military were to.
		We're gonna get into that as we break down, I think actually the treason of General Milley.
		We're gonna get to that after a short break.
unidentified		Because we're taking down the CCP!
		Spread the word all through Hong Kong!
		We will fight till they're all gone!
		We rejoice when there's no more!
		Let's take down the CCP!
		War Room.
		Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Mo, I know you get to me during the break.
		There's a correction.
		Give me the on-air edit.
maureen bannon ▲ ● ▼		It was 11.
		How did that make you feel when you saw that and heard about it that day?
		It honestly broke my heart and was extremely frustrating to see.
unidentified		withdrawal out of Afghanistan.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		How did that make you feel when you saw that and heard about it that day?
maureen bannon ▲ ● ▼		It honestly broke my heart and was extremely frustrating to see.
		It angered me to no end because those 13 service members and the 28 that were wounded in that bombing at Abbey Gate, that should have never happened.
		Those parents should never have received that knock on the door letting them know that they lost their children.
		And the fact that when they were brought back to the United States and that this dignified transfer that happened at Dover Air Force Base, that Joe Biden looked at his watch the entire time each service member was brought off in that transfer case.
		That is absolutely disgusting for a commander in chief to do.
		And the fact that Mark Milley has not taken any accountability for that botched withdrawal is also absolutely disgusting.
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		Okay, let's continue on with the Mark Milley.
		I'll break in here and we'll give some more analysis.
unidentified		His commitment to that oath would be both tested and questioned by Donald Trump.
		While their relationship began with kind words... Mark Milley, he's a great gentleman, he's a great patriot, he's a great soldier.
		After the January 6th insurrection, the two men would not speak again.
		What do we want?
		Justice!
		When do we want it?
		Their public estrangement started in the spring of 2020, when protests for racial justice, some violent, spread across the country, including to Washington, D.C.
		Perhaps more than any other chairman in the role, you have become ensnarled in politics and arguably threats to the Constitution.
		What have you learned from that?
		Well, I think it's important to keep your North Star, which is the Constitution.
		We, the military, are not only apolitical, we are nonpartisan.
		You can't pick sides.
		June 1st, 2020.
		Was that a turning point for you as chairman?
		I think it was, yeah.
		I realized that I stepped into a political minefield and I shouldn't have.
		He's talking about the day when President Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act and deploy the U.S.
		Army to put down the unrest on America's streets.
		On the evening of June 1st, after demonstrators near the White House were removed by force, Chairman Milley, dressed in battle fatigues, joined President Trump and members of his cabinet in a march across Lafayette Square to St.
		John's Church, where Mr. Trump posed for photographs.
		Ten days later, General Milley apologized in a speech to graduates of the National Defense University.
		My presence in that moment and in that environment created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics.
		As a commissioned uniformed officer, it was a mistake that I have learned from.
		It's rare for a chairman to apologize publicly.
		Well, you know, I grew up here in Boston.
		I'm Irish, Catholic, and my mother and father taught me that when you make a mistake, you admit it, you go to confession, you say, "'Ten Hail Marys and Our Father.'" Everybody makes mistakes, and the key is how you deal with a mistake.
		After you apologized, former President Trump said you choked like a dog.
		Yeah, I'm not going to comment on anything the former president has said or not said.
		General Milley did tell us he was so disillusioned with the former president's actions, he nearly resigned.
		Instead, according to former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, he and the general made a pact to protect the military from becoming politicized or misused.
		It's also been reported that you spent several days, several drafts of resignation letters.
		That's right.
		I was very struck by the one that was published, in which you said to the president, it is my deeply held belief that you are ruining the international order, causing significant damage to our country overseas that was fought so hard by the greatest generation in 1945.
		That generation has fought against fascism, has fought against Nazism, has fought against extremism.
		It's now obvious to me that you don't understand that world order.
		You don't think Donald Trump understood what World War II was fought over?
		I don't know what former President Trump understood about World War II or anything else.
		I can tell you that from 1914 to 1945, 150 million people or thereabouts were slaughtered in the conduct of Great Power War.
		And in 1945, the United States took the initiative and drafted up a set of rules that govern the world to this day.
		Those rules are under stress internationally.
		President Putin is a direct frontal assault on those rules.
		China is trying to revise those rules to their own benefit.
		But that's one thing to say that China is threatening that world order and Russia is threatening that world order.
		To say that the commander-in-chief, Donald Trump, was ruining the international order and causing significant damage.
		What did you see that caused you to write that?
		It's got to be more than walking into Lafayette Square in uniform.
		I think there was a wide variety of initiatives that were ongoing.
		One of them, of course, was withdrawing troops out of NATO.
		Those were initiatives that placed at risk, you know, I think, America's role in the world.
		Now, that is the opposite of what my parents and 18 million others wore the uniform for World War II to defeat.
		General Milley doesn't just revere the greatest generation.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		He was... Stop.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Stop.
unidentified		Stop.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That is the single most damning interview I think that I've ever heard.
		We get down to the heart of it.
		It's not about Donald Trump.
		It's not about the Constitution.
unidentified		It has nothing to do with the Constitution.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The Constitution is very clear.
		The President of the United States is the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.
		Full stop.
		If you're a senior military, if you're a uniformed leader, and you can't live with that, then you must resign.
		You can't make your own deal up that you and Esper... Remember, what happened is that they got crushed by the media that afternoon they went back.
		And Esper talks about this.
		And he and Milley made a pact.
		The Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Attorney General's Office made a pact to thwart Trump.
		To thwart the Commander-in-Chief.
		Did they go ever over to talk to Trump and lay this out, the issues they had?
		Did they ever go over and actually have a conversation?
		Hey, we don't actually, upon further review, the Insurrection Act and stuff, the riots are going on.
		We got to have a talk about Posse Comitatus.
		We have to have a talk about our thing.
		Did they ever?
		No.
		Read Esper's book.
		I've read every line of it many times.
		They never went back.
		And Milley never went back.
		And Milley's never said he went back.
		They never went back to the commander in chief of the armed forces and had that conversation.
		Ever.
		And then I think going into it, you know, after January 6, he was making phone calls, unauthorized phone calls to the Chinese Communist Party, the PLA leader, to basically say, imply Trump's a madman.
		Nothing is going to happen.
		The military is basically doing a coup.
		The commander in chief orders something.
		We're not going to do it.
		You've got to be advised of that.
		But in there, right there, the heart of it, the heart of the problem.
		is the post-war international rules-based order.
		It's a fetish to these people.
		It is above the Constitution, is above the American Republic, is above the citizens and the sovereignty of a citizen of the United States and this nation.
		The post-war international rules-based order, set up by the globalists, run by the globalists, of which the Chinese Communist Party, they've used that to basically become a backwards agricultural backwater into a major industrial power based upon American capital and American technology.
		Right there he lays out the whole thing.
		That even the interviewer for CBS is so shocked that he said it.
		He said, what?
		You've got a problem with Trump?
		What is it?
		Well, Trump did many things, you know, didn't believe in this post-war international rules-based order and did things.
		And she goes, look, I understand if Russia or China are doing things, obviously they got their own ideas about the world order.
		But what did Trump do?
		Oh, well, you know, he wanted to talk.
		Yes.
		And NATO, because NATO is not an ally.
		It's a protectorate.
		It's a protectorate.
		You damned yourself with your own words right there, Millie.
		You damned yourself with your own words and you are going to be held accountable.
		Right there shows you his treason.
		Right there shows you his plotting.
		President Trump came in and we had a meeting in the tank, I think in the spring of 2017, that I helped arrange with others, with General Mattis, because we had to have a vetting of this central issue.
		So this wasn't hidden, but to Millie.
		President Trump said that postwar international rules based order of which America, you know, you have trade deals and capital markets from Western Europe to the Gulf Emirates around the Middle East to the around the South China Sea and up to Northwest Europe around Korea and Japan.
		Those four big nodes.
		We have commercial relationships.
		We had trade deals.
		We have cultural, obviously, interaction.
		And you have an American security guarantee.
		Those days are over.
		That order, they've been able to game the system to strip America of her vital manufacturing strength.
		And that these areas of the world are not allies, they're protectorates.
		And we're not an empire, we're not looking for Europe to be a protectorate when the people in Davos and the people in Brussels are living high on the hog and all the Europeans have full medical care and pensions and six weeks off in the summer that American workers don't have.
		You're grinding yourself to death with no pension and no health care and no time off, two weeks if you're lucky.
	No, the fetish right there.
	Oh, the post-war international rules-based order.
	He's the commander-in-chief and elected by the American people.
	And this is one of the central issues.
	This wasn't hidden.
	And we had a five or six hour meeting in the Pentagon in the historic tank, this meeting room where they essentially ran World War II out of.
	We wanted the historic nature of it, and they made a presentation.
	In fact, the opening statement in that meeting was Mattis said, the post-war international rules-based order is the greatest gift to the greatest generation.
	Bull.
unidentified		Bull.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Wrong.
		And we were quite blunt to tell them they were wrong and what we were going to do, starting with getting out of Afghanistan.
		And Milley and these guys plotted from the beginning to thwart Trump, to thwart Trump.
		To thwart Trump as the commander-in-chief.
		If you have a problem with his idea about what should come after and changes made so we're not an empire, we don't have all these protectors, particularly Europe, that can pay for their own defense, then you should have stood up and said something to Trump.
		Did you ever have a discussion about that?
		Did you ever tender a letter of resignation then instead of plotting the entire time you were there?
		And then stabbing the American people in the back and stabbing Trump in the back?
		No, Millie, you're going to be brought to justice on this.
		We cannot.
		It is impossible for us to let this go.
		He must be held accountable.
		He was entrusted as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the senior military advisor to the commander in chief of this nation.
		And he failed in every aspect.
unidentified		He's a devious, devious, cunning bad guy.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		short commercial break, we'll return in a moment.
unidentified		This is a short commercial break. We'll return in a moment.
		the United States. The war was about to begin. It was about to General Milley doesn't just revere the greatest generation.
		He was raised by it.
		His father was a Navy medic who served in the Pacific Campaign, including at the Battle of Iwo Jima.
		His mother joined the Naval Reserve to work as a nurse.
		Well, this was, and still remains, a very patriotic neighborhood.
		After the war, they settled in Winchester, a small town north of Boston.
		Almost every single male and female parent that was here, they were all World War II veterans of one kind or another.
		The whole block, really?
		A lot of people died?
		Yeah, 100%.
		And interesting, no officers.
		These were all 100% enlisted, and they had their own opinions of officers, too.
		Including your parents, right?
		Oh, yeah.
		During high school, he was recruited to play ice hockey at Princeton University and decided to join the Reserve Officers Training Corps, or ROTC.
		After graduating in 1980, he went on to become a paratrooper and serve in Special Forces.
		He did one combat tour in Iraq and three in Afghanistan.
		Raise your right hand.
		This past May, he returned to Princeton to commission the graduating ROTC class.
		Congratulations to every one of you.
		And took a particular interest in a few of the young officers whose language skills are currently in high demand.
		I speak Chinese, sir.
		Chinese is really, really important to us.
		Anybody else speak Chinese?
		Whoa.
		One, two, three, four, five.
		If you speak Chinese, if you don't mind, I'd like to get your names and we'll see where life takes you guys.
		We, the United States, need to take the challenge, the military challenge of China extraordinarily seriously.
		How concerned are you that military-to-military communications are not happening right now with China?
		Yeah, I think we need to get that established.
		We had them for a period of time and then they've dropped off, so channels of communication are important in order to de-escalate in time of crisis.
		General Milley says he held a total of five calls with his Chinese military counterparts during the Trump and Biden administrations.
		But it was his last two calls during the final months of the Trump presidency that got the attention of the press, Congress and the former president himself.
		Why did you think it was so important to call your Chinese military counterpart in the aftermath of the January 6th attacks?
		That's an example of de-escalation.
		So there was clear indications that the Chinese were very concerned about what they were observing here in the United States.
		Did you see some movement of Chinese military equipment?
		I won't go over anything classified.
		So I won't discuss exactly what we saw or didn't see or what we heard or didn't hear.
		I will just say that there was clear indications that the Chinese were very concerned.
		President Trump recently said that your dealings with China were so egregious that in times gone by, the punishment would have been death.
		That's right, he said that.
		But for the record, was there anything inappropriate or treasonous about the calls you made to China?
		Absolutely not.
		Zero.
		None.
		Not only that, they were authorized and they were coordinated.
		Congress knows that.
		We've answered these questions several different times in writing.
		Were you giving the Chinese information about thinking of the President of the United States?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what, um, there was authorized?
		Well, the Commander-in-Chief didn't authorize it.
		We're going to have plenty of time to do that because we're going to hold him accountable.
		We don't know the form yet of how charges are going to be filed, but this guy's not going to get away with this.
		It was treasonous.
		You specifically talked to the Chinese Communist Party, the PLA, about your mindset and the mindset of the American military.
		In that trying time, and you did not run that by the Commander-in-Chief, who you swore an oath of office to protect the Constitution.
		He's the Commander-in-Chief.
		If you had a problem, you should have resigned right then.
		You didn't.
		You're cunning, you're sneaky, you're a liar, and you're treasonous.
		And you will be held accountable.
		Mo, we got about a minute.
		Your thoughts on General Milley before we punch out.
maureen bannon ▲ ● ▼		Well, I found this quote by John Wooden, the true test of a man's character is what he does when no one is watching.
		And clearly, like you just said, he didn't get authorization for these calls.
		to his Chinese counterpart from the commander-in-chief.
		So that just shows the type of person General Milley really is.
		The fact that he is treasonous, he needs to be held accountable, like you said, not only for this, but for that botched withdrawal and for what has happened to the military under his command.
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