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Episode 3193: The Terror In Israel
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Welcome to the late afternoon, early evening edition of The War Room.
I appreciate everybody coming back Tuesday, 21 November, the year of our Lord 2023.
I want to start in northern Israel as we left you guys last night, the audience last night up with Real America's Voice own combat correspondent Tara Dahl.
Worked with Tara for many, I guess decades now, not just in the Trump White House, but at Breitbart back in the old days when Tara would be our Our reporter in all the hot spots in the Middle East, and of course, Major Shalhi Halum from the IDF.
Major, I want to, Major Shalhi, I want to start with you.
As Tara's probably informed you, we are not big fans here in the war room of any type of ceasefire.
It's our belief that Israel and the Israelis are at the tip of the spear of really Islamic, Islamicist Sharia supremacist movement throughout the world, and you guys are the tip of the spear.
And I know there's a lot of confusion, but you said yesterday you were being held back in hitting back at these Sharia are these Shiite Persian militias, Persian-backed militias.
What's the state of play today when it looks like the U.S.
is really, they say they're coordinating it, but it really looks to me and to our audience like they're forcing this ceasefire, which we believe the Muslim Brotherhood franchisee Hamas will be able to reorganize down in what's left of them in northern Gaza and in Gaza City and also in the south.
Your thoughts, sir?
unidentified
Okay, Steve.
Well, as we discussed yesterday, it is a very, very dramatic moment now.
We have the Israeli government and cabinet meeting going on today in order to decide about the release or about the deal of releasing the hostages, which would include also the ceasefire against a terrorist Islamic ISIS group of Hamas.
And that means that we would be actually stopping any actions on the field, on the ground.
And I'm not sure this will happen in the north.
It might happen maybe in Gaza for a few days.
But this is actually taking advantage of our weakness of having civilian lives.
That shows how brutal those enemies are.
How satanic they are actually.
on actually using citizens as a human shield in order to reorganize.
But I must admit, Israel has no choice here.
We have hostages.
We have a lot of pressure from the families of the hostages here on the ground in Israel.
They have been demonstrating daily.
And as you know, we are a people of light.
We are a people who appreciate life.
And we want to make sure that our hostages are actually back in our hands.
And it doesn't mean that we are stopping the battle, but it means we will stay like a few days without any combats on the ground, without eliminating Hamas, actually, as our goals, where at the beginning it will stop for four or five days until we finalize this deal, and then we will continue, actually, on our goal of eliminating Hamas.
steve bannon
Major, as bad as the individual situations are with the hostages, and obviously all of those are heart-rendering, in 1948 or 1967 or 1973, would the Israel of that day, understanding what they were up against in the Arab world, would they have negotiated for hostages to allow the enemy to basically regroup and rearm, sir?
unidentified
No, no, Steve, I agree with you.
But back then, we didn't have media and we didn't have all this power that the Arab media is using against Israel and destroying its name and it's destroying the people of Israel.
Worldwide, we see demonstrations against Israel and against our people.
And this is a different scenario from 1948 on On a way that now we are more exposed to a media and the media back then was not there.
And the media is a vital issue here on pressing and pushing Israel towards this deal too.
Because the media in Israel are joining forces with as well the families.
And I'm as a father, I can tell you, as a father of a son, I don't want to see any of these children being harmed.
If there's a way to return them back, we will do anything to bring them back home and then continue.
Actually, I offered at the beginning, I had a different actually view of what is happening today.
I would actually negotiate a deal, release those Hostages first and attack Hezbollah here in the north, very hard, very powerful way.
And meanwhile, negotiate a deal, release those prisoner terrorists that we have many of them in our prisons and exchange them for our hostages.
And once the hostages in our hands, then we can continue to Gaza without any fear of hostages on their hands.
steve bannon
Tara, the major just, I think, shocked the American people by saying the media, a lot of the media in Israel itself, with the families have kind of taken the side of this and put pressure just even more than the U.S.
government.
What's your assessment?
unidentified
Yeah, what I've heard, Steve, on the ground is that the U.S.
government to appear in the North with Hezbollah, just like the Major said, that he would have, if he would have been able to decide, he would have taken out Hezbollah first, because that is the head of the snake, and that is what you hear all the time.
that Hezbollah, Iran is the head of the snake.
Right now, they're dealing with the immediate threat of Gaza and Hamas in Gaza, but ultimately they have to be able to eliminate the threat of Hezbollah.
And what I've been hearing is that the Biden administration is putting pressure on Israel.
Right now, they have a senior official here that came yesterday to meet with the Israeli officials to be able to deescalate the conflict in the north.
And of course you want to de-escalate, but you can't de-escalate when Hezbollah is constantly launching attacks on Israelis.
Right now, 60,000 civilians in the northern Israel are evacuated.
They're not in their homes and they have refused to return to their homes until the threat has been eliminated because they said after October 7th, Everything changed for them because it's no longer about their lives.
It's about their children's lives.
They just cannot understand what happened with Hamas and how they murdered babies has dramatically changed people.
I talk to people every day and that's what they said.
They will never be the same.
They will never look at the situation the same and they will not come back to their homes until Hezbollah stops launching rockets.
And Steve, we have a SOT that I want to just play here of what Hezbollah was doing at a training camp in May in 2023 at a training camp when they were training for an operation just like Hamas did on October 7th.
So if we have that SOT, Steve, maybe we could play it.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Denver, go ahead and play it.
I want to play this.
We'll come back.
unidentified
Hezbollah has nearly 5,000 trained and experienced fighters to carry out genocide in northern Israel.
Seen here is Hezbollah's operational map describing how they plan to conquer and erase the communities of northern Israel.
Rodwan unit's main mission is to infiltrate into Israel and take over the Galilee.
A mass infiltration by land, air, and sea.
On May 21st, 2023, Hezbollah organized a mock drill orchestrating a massive ground attack on northern Israel.
Hundreds of Hezbollah terrorists took part in what they described as a military maneuver.
The Radawan force undergoes sniper training, anti-tank weapons training, hand-to-hand combat, explosive training, and operational driving with dirt bikes and ATVs.
On January 1st, 2023, Hezbollah released a propaganda video depicting the infiltration of Israeli territory by blowing up the border wall.
Radwan terrorists then enter into the breach and proceed to shoot at Stars of David, the symbol of Jewish people globally.
steve bannon
Tara, that's unbelievable.
I just want to ask the Major for a second.
With that as the reality, I mean, this is what kind of boggles the mind.
I understand, you know, the heart-rendering situation of the hostages.
But when you start negotiating, they're just going to look at more, more hostages are going to be better for them.
This is not going to take the problem away.
It's going to exacerbate it.
If you look in the North, This is what I think the case has to be made by the Israeli government to the American officials that the threat to the north is 10x what the Muslim Brotherhood threat is in Gaza.
And that's where the real hammer is going to come is from the north.
Am I wrong in that, Major?
unidentified
You're correct.
That's the situation.
The north is 10 times actually greater than Gaza and Hamas threat.
We are here facing Iran itself in our border.
I mean, we think we are like neighboring with Lebanon and with Syria, but we are not actually.
We are neighboring with Iran.
We, from Israel to Iran, we have about 2,000, let's say 1,000 mile distance, okay?
Iran is not 1,000 miles away from us.
Iran is already sitting in our borders, in Syria, in Lebanon, with strong proxies that they built up in those borders.
So they built this corridor from Iran, crossing by Iraq, Syria to Lebanon, providing its proxies in the region with ammunition, with missiles, precision-guided missiles, with rockets.
With mortars, UAVs like the ones we saw them in Russia, supplying them to Russia to attack Ukraine.
That's what we have also facing in the northern fronts, beside the Shia proxies of Iran and militias coming from even Pakistan and Afghanistan, Shia Muslims who are joining them in this front.
So we are not facing now Iran thousand miles away from us.
We are facing Iran right in our borders.
And why is that?
Because we withdrew from South Lebanon back then, leaving a vacuum.
And this vacuum was filled by Iran and Hezbollah in South Lebanon.
We have some maps, Steve, if you want to pull those up as well, that shows that axis of evil and the Iranian proxies.
steve bannon
Yeah, let's go ahead and pull the first map.
Walk us through that, Tara.
unidentified
Yeah, so you can see, Stephen, here on this map, all the axes of evil.
Who are they?
We can see, first of all, in Syria, this is the graduation of a Syrian military academy in Aleppo.
You can see here the Russians.
You can see the Syrian representative.
You can see the Chinese.
You can see the South Korean.
You can see the Houthis in Yemen.
You can see Hezbollah and Palestinian PIJ and Hamas representatives.
All this axis of evil in one picture in the Syrian military graduation academy.
And then we can pull up the joint operations map as well that shows all the Iranian properties that you have Iraq, Syria, Iran, Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria, the West Bank, Yemen, and
This is what we call the unification of fronts, that Iran is actually leading and engineering and planning and providing all of them with weapons, ammunitions, guidance, financial support, Everything is led by Iran.
And Iranian IRJC force is the head of that.
And if we want to get rid of this Islamist Shiite proxy of evil, we need to get rid actually of Iran.
That's the head of the snake.
steve bannon
Hang over one second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
Professor Dershowitz, He's going to join us when we return to northern Israel to discuss this, the Persian side of the equation.
Also, Richard Barris trumps up five in Michigan.
We're going to get him in and break it all down.
Also, a discussion of the Supreme Court, this pressure on the Supreme Court.
All next in the War Room.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Welcome back.
I want to bring in Professor Dershowitz.
Professor Dershowitz, you know, I'm a cracker that just comes from Virginia.
I was just a dumb mick that went out into the world.
I was always told, you know, you hear all the time in various circles that Jews control the world.
Then I saw the Iran deal under the Obama administration.
And the people that were supporting the Jewish community in Israel lost.
Basically, we gave the Persians the atomic bomb and then continued to finance them.
The Jews control the media, but I see that Israel is losing the global information war.
What's going on here?
It's kind of shocking to me.
And it's also a shock.
I got to tell you, maybe I'm more hardcore in this.
I just don't sense as a young naval officer 44 years ago as basically an ensign or JG.
I was on a destroyer heading to the North Arabian Sea in the Persian Gulf from the Pacific about the Iranian hostage crisis.
I just don't agree.
As tragic as the stories are, and the stories are tragic about these hostages, I just don't agree that you negotiate with the Muslim Brotherhood, sir.
alan dershowitz
I agree with you.
First of all, Hamas controls the media.
Let me explain why.
Hamas has this policy and it's worked brilliantly.
Kill as many Israelis and Jews as possible.
Make sure that when Israel tries to get at your rockets, you have babies in front of the rockets so that no matter how hard Israel tries, it will kill some babies.
Then you bring your babies out, you hold them in front of the CNN cameras.
In fact, Hamas calls it the CNN strategy.
I call it the dead baby strategy.
And then the world blames Israel.
So Israel will always lose the media war.
That's why I've written a book about this called War Against the Jews.
I actually could have named it War Against America, War Against the West, War Against the Judeo-Christian Society.
In the book I explain that the only way to break this cycle, the only way to avoid wash, rinse, repeat, wash, rinse, repeat, Which is what Hamas does, is for the media not to, not to simply show these dead babies without explaining that every single, every single dead baby is the complete fault and responsibility of Hamas.
Perfect example, I rob a bank, I hold you as a hostage, I start shooting behind you, and a policeman to try to save the lives of the bank people shoots at me, trying to kill me, but kills you instead.
In every society, including under Sharia law, The person who's guilty of the murder is not the policeman whose bullet entered the heart of the victim, but the person who's holding the hostage.
And the media simply refuses to report that.
So no, Jews don't control the media.
We don't control universities.
We have a hard time controlling other Jews.
The Jewish community is split.
We have people from a hard, hard, hard neo-communist socialist left who happen to be Jews.
The Jewish Voice for Peace, for example.
Or others that are turning viciously, viciously against Israel.
And by the way, I agree with you on the hostages.
I have written a book 25 years ago in which I argued that no democracy should ever, ever negotiate with a hostage or return one person.
That will mean hostages die, but it'll mean there'll be fewer and fewer and fewer hostages if the world says to hostage takers, no.
You're taking these hostages for nothing, because nobody is going to give you one person back, one dime, or anything.
If you take hostages, we will go after you.
If it requires killing the hostages, hey, people die in order to save more lives.
Soldiers die.
Many Israeli soldiers have already died, more than the hostages.
And you have to stand firm.
against people who use hostages as bargaining chips.
Do not negotiate with terrorists, even if that means death.
steve bannon
It's not a policy... We just heard from Terra, our correspondent and from the IDF major, that this is not just CNN, it's indigenous Israeli media has been on the side of cutting this deal.
In 1948, 1967, or 1973, in the era of the Jewish Spartans, would that have happened?
Would Israel have negotiated any ceasefire whatsoever to free hostages?
alan dershowitz
No, I don't think so.
And remember, many people were sympathetic when Hamas captured one soldier.
One soldier!
And they exchanged him for 1,500 murderers.
And many of the murderers they exchanged him for killed the people in the South Israel.
Was that a good deal?
No, but in a democracy that has heart, like Israel does, it can't resist the claims of family members.
And that's what bold leaders have to do.
Winston Churchill did that when he refused, according to stories at least, not to notify the people of Coventry that they would be bombed if that meant giving up the fact that Great Britain had broken the Enigma Code.
You need courage, you need to stand hard, and you need to fight against terrorists by not negotiating with them, by not giving in to them, by regarding them as unequivocally criminals and ridding the world of them.
You know, people say, oh, you can't end a philosophy, you can only end people.
No!
We ended the philosophy of Nazism, we ended the ideology of Nazism, By defeating the Nazis unequivocally, unconditionally, total war.
If civilians died in the process, that was a price that had to be paid.
German civilians, many of them supported Hitler and supported the war against England and the West, and many of them died.
That's what happens.
And Israel has to stand strong, destroy Hamas, bomb the Iranian nuclear reactor, and then make a deal with the Saudis.
That's the only way to come out of this thing with something.
like a victory.
Otherwise, Hamas will just do it again and again and again.
And I demonstrate this unequivocally in my book, War Against the Jews.
I show the pattern.
I show how it happened back in starting with in the middle of the 19 2005s and how it will continue to happen unless we break this cycle.
Israel is the canary in the mine.
If Hamas defeats Israel, It's coming to a theater near you.
There will be terrorism as there was in the 1970s.
And these young kids, the Hitler youth that are now marching for Hamas, they're not wearing swastikas, they're wearing green headbands, but they are Hitler youth.
These Hitler youth will join the terrorists and will start blowing up American institutions the way they did in the 1970s.
So we have to support Israel in the Middle East.
steve bannon
But is there a civil war within the Jewish community?
because...
You look at, I understand the U.S.
is putting pressure on them.
I know what the Biden regime is doing, but the Biden regime is full of, got a lot of Jewish executives there, a lot of Jewish people in the senior administration.
Plus, inside of Israel, inside of Israel, this is a 50-50 deal.
Plus, you call them Hitler youth.
Most of those groups have been supported by liberal Jewish people and progressive Jewish people with their donations.
So is this, I mean, how can the United States and how can MAGA be an ally when it appears the Jewish community is at war with each other right now over this very topic?
It's owns the survival of Israel and quite frankly the survival of the Jewish community worldwide.
alan dershowitz
I agree with you.
I would say 95% of the Jewish community, as reflected by the large demonstration that occurred in Washington, 95% of the Jewish community is on the side of Israel.
You get that 5%.
Old communists, old leftists, old socialists, anti-American, anti-Western values, anti-Judeo-Christian tradition.
They call themselves Jews.
The Jewish Voice for Peace, for example, many of the members are not even Jewish, but they use the word Jewish as a beard and as a cover.
So the Jewish community is very united around this issue.
Look, they're divided politically.
They're divided about abortion.
They're divided about gay rights.
They're divided about climate control.
They're divided about the Supreme Court.
You don't expect a community which is as diverse as the Jewish community to be united in all the issues.
But on the issue of Israel, they're fairly united.
You're right that too many Jews have contributed too much money to too many universities that have supported the divestment, have supported diversity, inclusion, and equity, which have been sources of anti-Semitism.
And that has to stop.
And that is stopping.
And I'm leading a campaign to get Jewish contributors to stop contributing to universities and institutions that don't support Israel.
Many of them are against Israel.
The International Red Cross was an anti-Jewish organization during the Second World War and Do not support the International Red Cross.
Do not support Amnesty International.
Do not support the American Civil Liberties Union.
Do not support Harvard.
unidentified
Do not support... Hold it.
Hold it.
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
American Civil Liberties Union?
I mean, this is... Correct me if I'm wrong.
So, how did this all of a sudden... This is what I don't understand.
How did this all of a sudden happen?
How do all these institutions, basically supported by leading voices in the liberal and progressive Jewish community, all of a sudden, surprise, turn on them, and MAGA, who's been demonized by that same group of donors as, you know, white supremacists, Christian nationalists, we're the ones that have Israel's back.
How did that just happen out of nowhere?
alan dershowitz
Well, it's amazing.
I mean, you're absolutely right.
The evangelical Christian community has been more universally supportive of Israel than at least some progressive Jews have been.
But again, it's a minority.
It's a minority.
And the true ideology of most in the Jewish community have come out as a result of October 7th, and even more importantly, October 8th.
What happened on October 8th, of course, is organizations like the National Lawyers Guild, thousands of lawyers, some of whom are Jewish, defended Hamas, saying what they did was perfectly good military action.
Some people have quit National Lawyers Guild as a result of that.
And I think we're seeing a process.
We're seeing a change.
We're seeing a lot of Jews also moving away from knee-jerk support for Democratic candidates because of the squad, because of the extreme leftism of some people.
Some are staying within the Democratic Party to try to influence the Democratic Party to marginalize Yeah.
but you can't generalize about the Jewish community.
It consists of, you know, the old notion, three Jews, two Jews, three of them.
In Israel, it's, you know, several more newspapers.
There are more newspapers that oppose each other.
So it's a very diverse and very contentious community, but on Israel, we are mostly both.
unidentified
Hang on one second, we're taking a short commercial break.
We have Tara Dahl, we have Major Shalhi, we have Professor Dershowitz, Barristan Joins us in Poland.
steve bannon
Short commercial break.
unidentified
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Spread the word all through Hong Kong, we will fight till they're all gone, we rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP!
War Room, here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Professor Dershowitz, thanks for sticking with us.
I understand you've got to bounce, but I've got one more question.
Did, because you didn't hear a lot about it in the run-up, and even some of the stuff that was going back and forth.
It's one of the things that we've been adamant in my, I don't know, working this problem for Since I made the Reagan film in 2004, which was really not about Reagan's struggle with communism over 50 years, but it was really about Islamic supremacism, as the end of the film said, because it showed you how you had to take on a radical ideology over many decades in order to destroy it.
Did people in Israel, did officials, did even public intellectuals, maybe even yourself, underplay the Sharia supremacism of this?
I mean, this is Hamas.
This is the Muslim Brotherhood in the South, and it's the Persian Shiite supremacist in the North.
That's what's got Israel on an iron grip.
And when they represent the Judeo-Christian West, this is not some political thing you can negotiate.
This is why, to me, all this discussion about, with Qatar, who is the nest of vipers, about what happens in Gaza afterwards is absolutely insanity.
It doesn't face what the absolute fact is.
You're facing Sharia supremacists.
That sole goal is to drive the Israelis into the sea and then to destroy the Jewish people, sir.
alan dershowitz
I agree with you.
Yesterday, I debated Mark Lamont Hill, a man who was fired from CNN for his anti-Israel state statements, but became a professor at City College.
And he called for the end of Israel and the establishment of a secular, binational state, admitting that Hamas would be then voted in to head this so-called secular, bipartisan state.
It's nonsense.
They would immediately impose a Sharia state.
They would regard Jews as dhimmi, that is, second-class citizens.
They would either kill them, deport them, or try to convert them.
This is a war for the soul of the Judeo-Christian Western tradition, and I agree with you.
I think if Hamas wins, their goal is to impose Sharia law.
The most amazing thing is that these organizations called, like, Gays for Hamas, Feminists for Hamas, My son, a very brilliant young man, wanted to have a birthright program where you send gays for Hamas to Gaza and feminists to Gaza.
He said it would be very cheap because all you have to do is provide a one-way ticket.
They would be murdered.
They wouldn't be allowed to come back.
How do you get leftist, hard-left organizations supporting a Sharia-organized group that would destroy them, kill every gay person, kill every transgender person?
Kill every feminist, kill every progressive.
The hatred of the Jews is so deep that they hate the Jews more than they like themselves.
That's how absurd these leftist supporters of Hamas and Sharia law are, and we have to fight them at every turn.
Jews, Christians, Muslims who are against the imposition of Sharia law, secularists, religious people, everybody who loves America, cares about liberty, cares about
An independent country has to fight this Sharia-Islamic-Islamicist-I have nothing against Islamic people-Islamicist attempt to impose Islamic Sharia law on everything that Western democracy now stands for.
steve bannon
Given you've written the book but you spent your entire adult career defending this, do you feel That it's pretty grim right now?
That the situation in Israel is pretty grim?
alan dershowitz
You know, they say in Israel that a pessimist is someone who says, Oy vey, things are so bad they can't get worse, and an optimist says, they can!
Things could get much worse, and I think it's coming to a theater near you.
I think if Hamas is not resoundingly defeated, if Hezbollah is not defeated, if Iran is not defeated by the destruction of their nuclear armament, we're going to see this spread to America.
We're going to see this spread to American schools.
It's already spreading to the next generation of leaders in America, who are the university students and faculty.
Who are calling for the end of Israel, for the end of Western democracy.
And so this is a fight we have to all fight together.
I dropped everything on October 7th to write my book, War Against the Jews.
I thought at that point it was so important to expose the dangers that America faces.
I just wish I had had the foresight to change the title To war against the West, to war against America, war against Studio Christian Society.
It is war against the Jews.
And if they get us, they're coming after you.
steve bannon
Professor Dershowitz, thank you very much.
We want to make sure everybody in the audience gets access to the book.
Thank you for joining us.
Your podcast, social media, all of it, because you're churning out content 24 hours a day right now.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Where do people go?
Where do they get your podcast?
Where do they get all that?
alan dershowitz
Oh, yeah.
You get the book on Amazon.com.
It's now available for immediate delivery in early December.
My podcast is called The Dirt Show.
It's on 530 on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, and I will actually be having a discussion, much like the one we just had, about some of these issues as well.
You know, you can read me online.
I write a column virtually almost every day, and I am trying so hard.
If I were 24 years old, I'd be going to Israel now and fighting for the IDF.
I'm 85, so all I can do is fight with my pen and my voice.
steve bannon
Professor Dershowitz, thank you.
Honored to have you on here, sir.
alan dershowitz
My honor to be on.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Major Shalhi, in the campaign to the north, None of which, none of which Professor Dershowitz or you have argued for looks like it's going to happen.
I mean, it just looks like the Biden administration, who, as I mentioned, has a number of Jewish individuals and senior a senior position, including Treasury, State Department, on the National Security Council, is going to back the Israelis' play against the Persians.
So how grim does it look?
Where do we go from here?
unidentified
Well, I don't understand how they can prevent Israel from acting on this front.
We are already threatened.
Our lives are here, ruined.
We have no life for more than one month.
People are evacuated.
We are at risk of being annihilated by same ISIS-Shia axis from the north.
I don't think that Israel leaders will allow this to happen.
And sometimes we should, as friends with the American administration, Tell them, hey, we respect your thoughts, we respect your ideas, but we have our own interests too.
It's our internal security issues, and we need to deal and eliminate this threat, even if you don't accept our thoughts.
Exactly like we did back in the 70s and 80s, when we eliminated
Arafat terror organization, Fatah group in South Lebanon, when they created Fatah land, persecuted, slaughtered Christian people in South Lebanon, killed them, massacred in churches, massacred them in Damur in 1976, massacred them in El Ka'a and Aishiyi and in all the southern Lebanese lands.
So, we didn't listen to the Americans.
We did what Israel's interests are, and that's exactly the same thing we should do here.
If America will keep preventing us from doing so, we should act by ourselves.
We are not going to have another October 7th here in the North.
Things are changing here in Israel.
People even who were left today become center and right-wing people.
They have no hope of having peace with this Islamic Brotherhood movement that, unfortunately, many citizens of the Arab world and of the Palestinian Authority and of Gazans support.
So the only way to fight Satan is to kill this Satan and eliminate it.
And that's the head of the Satan is sitting all the way in Tehran, in Iran, and Americans should get involved as soon as possible before it reach their lands as well.
And it's better sooner than later.
steve bannon
Tara, the 10 or 15 years we've worked together, I mean, you've been there.
Reporting on the eradication of the Christians in the Middle East.
How did America forget this lesson?
How did we forget exactly what this is all about in the Middle East?
This is about Sharia supremacism.
This is not about the Muslim faith.
This is not about Muslims.
This is about Sharia supremacism.
And you've seen it on so many battlefields that you've reported on.
How did Israel forget that?
And how did America forget it?
unidentified
Well, I think we have to remember that this is the agenda of re-establishing the Ottoman Empire.
It really goes back, Steve, to World War I with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire.
And now you're seeing that re-establishment and it's coming from Erdogan in Turkey, it's coming from Qatar.
And it is coming from Iran, and that is the ultimate goal.
It is global jihad.
That is what they're fighting, and Israel is on the tip of the spear fighting global jihad.
As you mentioned, Steve, I've been all over throughout the Middle East covering the war on global jihad.
I was at the Peshmerga with the war on ISIS, and everybody was behind the Peshmerga at that time, right?
Now it's just the total opposite.
It's like Israel cannot even defend themselves, let alone eradicate and eliminate the threat that they want, that the global jihad is.
It's not just Hamas.
It's not Hezbollah.
So I say global jihad because it's coming from all fronts to completely eradicate Israel.
And I see one point I want to just make with Professor Dershowitz.
I completely I agree with him, and I completely agree with you on this hostages.
And I think one point that I've been trying to make is that why is not the international community, why is not America holding Qatar accountable and saying, no, Qatar, we will sanction you unless you release 240 hostages?
Hamas leaders are in Qatar.
Qatar gives $360 million to Hamas every single year.
That is more than Iran gives to Hamas.
Iran only gives $100 million.
to Hamas. So I don't understand why the United States and other countries are not saying, holding Qatar accountable and say, no, you will release these hostages. You will take care of the Hamas leadership. And yet Qatar is the one negotiating.
It's absolutely insane, like you said. And if Qatar has anything to do with taking over Gaza after they remove Hamas, it's insane.
steve bannon
They're talking about re-getting to Qatar is the nest of vipers that fought Trump when we first went over there about signing the ability that they would not be able to finance terrorism.
It was Qatar that pushed back and wouldn't do it.
We've got to bounce, Tara.
Tara, what's your social media?
Your reporting's been amazing.
Where do people go?
unidentified
Para underscore doll on Instagram.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Major Shalhi Halum, where do people go to follow you, sir?
unidentified
www.aramaic-center.com.
This is our website.
You can find all the information about us and how to connect with us as well.
steve bannon
We want to come back and have our actual full briefing.
We get the maps and all that, and we get to go through it.
But a busy night tonight.
Thank you guys.
Appreciate you staying up to join us.
unidentified
Really.
Thank you.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
I know it sounds harsh, but you're either at war or you're not at war.
I understand it sounds harsh, and of course the global media will be totally against it, but this is only going to cause more problems.
It's only going to cause more problems.
And it's going to cause more problems for the people in Gaza.
Just wait for it.
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Richard Barris, you did an amazing job on Pennsylvania.
You've had this theory of age and race.
You're sitting there going, hey, this election is going to be decided in the heart of this country.
That's the old Rust Belt, which have got many, many, many vibrant communities and states out there.
It's not really a Rust Belt anymore.
Walk us through what your findings show about the state of Michigan, sir.
richard baris
Michigan tells the same story, Steve.
Only this one, I gotta be honest, I was a little bit surprised.
I'm not surprised he had a lead, but he's got a stronger lead than I thought of President Trump over Biden.
And the reason is, back to what we've been talking about, age and race, age and race.
And much like Pennsylvania, The rural vote is there, but what is this age and race thing doing?
We hear a lot in the media about the suburban vote, Steve, but the truth is the MAGA coalition of the future, and we're seeing it play out right now, is a little bit more urban and rural.
So it's a rural and urban coalition because more non-whites are coming over to President Trump, he's starting to slice into these real big blue strongholds.
In Wayne County, for instance, President Biden's support is completely bottomed out, where President Trump is already at his 20-20 levels.
He's already a little bit, he's already starting to exceed them in some of these blue areas.
If a Republican wants to win Michigan, he's got, they, he, she, has got to win Macomb County and Monroe County by nearly enough that they wipe out the net that Oakland County gives to the Democrat.
The rest of the state you use with the rural areas to overcome Wayne and some of the other bluer areas, the pockets here and there, and then hopefully if they have the equation right, they eke it out.
Well, Steve, Oakland's been turning on Republicans for a long time.
President Trump lost it by 15 points.
He's barely down there.
He's down five points in the Oakland area.
Oakland-Macomb together is essentially tied.
That's an area Biden was able to improve over Hillary.
If you look at the McComb and Monroe combination, it's a 20-point gap.
So when Trump won it by 12-14, people were static.
He's winning it by more now.
And just so everyone understands, that's the old home of the Reagan Democrat.
Republicans have a very difficult time winning McComb.
Republicans not named Donald Trump.
And here we go again.
So I was very curious to get back in this state and see whether or not, you know, was it just Tudor Dixon who lost it?
Is it just all these other Republicans who lost it?
Or is this a real problem?
It's not for Donald Trump, Steve.
steve bannon
Let me, I got to bounce.
We got to bounce, but I got to ask you a point blank question.
Is this because of the crystallization of the lived experience of the citizens of these counties and locations, even urban under Joe Biden versus their lived experience in the term of President Trump?
richard baris
Yeah, that's a great question because I think at this point now, the Oakland, for instance, you know, some of the more educated people, white, whites, especially gave him a chance in Oakland County, gave Biden a chance.
But now they have something to compare it to.
Again, overwhelmingly, we just hear from people that Trump was a better president and their life was better under Donald Trump.
And then with non-whites in some of these urban areas, it's a little bit more nuanced These indictments have made him somewhat relatable to them, you know, and he's become like a folk hero.
So yeah, I mean, they overshot it here.
Again, Steve, just so people understand, even when we had you guys pulling this out in Michigan back in 16, our poll was a one point lead for President Trump.
We have never, not five points.
You know, I mean, this doesn't happen.
steve bannon
Where do people go to get this poll?
And I want to make sure they get access to all the crosstabs.
Where do they go?
richard baris
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if they go to LocalsPeoplesPundit.Locals.com, they'll get all the links that we share out there.
Or they can just go to Big Data Poll.
Check out the blog section where we release the polls.
Check the maps out.
Go through the interviews.
Click beneath the map.
You'll see a big link that says crosstabs.
Go look at these crosstabs.
Go look at Trump's support with these Whitnam Whites.
It's incredible.
steve bannon
A year out, Barris is going through all the Rust Belt.
Started in Pennsylvania, we've got Michigan, we're going to release all of them.
This is pretty powerful.
And this is about the lived experience under Biden and the lived experience under Trump.
It's no theoretical exercise.
Richard Barris, thank you for coming on.
Amazing polling.
Amazing analysis.
Thanks for having me.
unidentified
All the best.
steve bannon
Very powerful.
Thanks.
Okay, man.
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unidentified
Yep.
mike lindell
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Wow.
This has been an intense one.
Remember, it's hard to say no negotiation for hostages.
See what happened to Jimmy Carter.
Just never works out in the long run.
Just doesn't.
They saw the strength of Reagan and turned over the hostages.
They saw the strength of Reagan.
Okay, back in a couple of minutes, Natalie Winters is going to join us.
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