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Episode 3189: For The Good Of The Republic; 2024 Will Be Decided By The Rust Belt
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Monday, 20 November, Year of the Lord 2023.
I just want everybody to focus on the fact that they're coming after you in the hardest way possible.
That you are the, think about it, The Economist magazine, the magazine of the global elites, says that in 2024, the greatest threat to the world, the greatest threat to the world, not a threat, not one of among a number of threats, the greatest threat in the world is Donald J. Trump and his followers.
I need you to fully embrace that.
Everything that you have done for this country, your families have done for this country, this country that has created more wealth and freed more people than any nation on earth, taken in more people, been more compassionate than any nation in the history of the earth.
You go back and study the history of the earth and you will never, ever, ever find a nation more giving, more caring, more compassionate than the United States of America.
That you, the bedrock of this nation, are the most dangerous element on this earth.
Now let's leave aside the insult for a second about what it means.
They already understand that in stealing, and this is why we must, and this is why Speaker Johnson must, we must do this.
We owe this to the Republic.
We owe this to everybody that came before us.
We must use the platform we have, and you can't listen to the consultants, and my God, don't listen to these donors.
They're wrong about everything.
Don't take it from me.
Look at the carnage of politicians.
Look at the careers of people that listen to them that have been destroyed or destroyed themselves.
Look at Ron DeSantis, for an example.
By the way, DeSantis is somebody that, maybe it's his wife or somebody that's close to him that cares for the guy, has got to tell him, you keep attacking President Trump like you're attacking President Trump.
You're toast forever.
You're a young man.
You could still have a future.
But brother, by going after President Trump in the vicious way you're going after him, and if this is an indication of what you're going to do, it's not going to get any better for you.
You're not going to be the President of the United States.
You just should embrace that.
And not destroy what little reputation you still have and what people still think of you by doing this.
Donald Trump's campaign should just be very simple.
It's peace and prosperity.
I offer you the peace and prosperity of 17 to 19 before the bioweapon hit.
Heck, I'll even throw in, I'll take 20 as bad as that was over, over, over what they're providing.
They are chaos, anarchy, and agony.
That's what Biden presents.
And not just that, setting up for more downrange.
One of the great things about the United States, if you read the history, is working class people, middle class people, and the elites in our country, we're always thinking downrange.
In the country's interest and future generations' interest.
Of what we had to do today, what, you know, we're going to suffer today, we're going to do it, but it's going to be for, to get future generations to more of a sunlit upland.
That's been completely reversed.
This is why the elites in this country have no standing anymore.
Except when they're giving standing ovations to a dictator every bit as murderous as Hitler.
Donald Trump gave you, not promised you, not some happy talk talking point on the campaign trail.
He delivered for you peace and prosperity.
You know how hard that is to do?
Particularly when the entire elite apparatus was all over him every single day.
Every single day.
Peace and prosperity.
And look at what these people have done to this country.
Look what they've done to the citizens of this country.
And now look what they're doing to the citizens of the world.
The 70,000 Dead men, women, and children in Ukraine, just like Mershimer said, the West is going to lead these people down the primrose path to their own destruction, and they will fight until the last Ukrainian can pick up a rifle.
Our elites, and you can see this on the vaccine, what they've done in the pandemic, of what they're prepared to do with the digital ID cards, the medical ID cards, What they're doing on the invasion of the southern border, what they're doing and not thinking about future generations, not even that, not even thinking about the working class, the middle class, and what they're doing now in the spending and the way they run the country, are guilty of the worst crimes of treason in the history of this nation.
They have sold this nation out and sold the people of this nation out.
And Speaker Johnson must step up to the plate.
We need immediately a new J6 committee.
To get to, and I think, get to the bottom of the stealing of the 2020 election and a place to adjudicate the facts, wherever the facts may go.
If we don't have the facts, then hey, then on national TV and rolling it out in hearings, then the facts don't stand up.
We're prepared to take that bet.
The 2020 and The Fed's erection.
Let's get the facts out there.
The footage itself is already egregious.
We must have a... And by the way, the Democrats should have a ranking member and they must have a minority council.
Witnesses, all evidence must be reviewed and witnesses got to be cross-examined in tough cross-examinations in public hearings.
It's the only way we're going to get to the bottom of this and Speaker Johnson has the full ability to do it.
And, you know, this is not a shiny toy to take our eyes off the main event of the spending.
No.
We can do two things at one time.
But this must be done.
It must be done for the good of this Republic.
And it must be done now.
I can be no more happy talking.
You know, I keep recommending to Speaker Johnson on the show that you have a biblical worldview.
Go to the last book of Revelations and really embrace that.
Particularly the section of come and see.
Because right now you're seeing the destruction of this magnificent republic, the New Jerusalem, right before our eyes.
And it can be stopped and it must be stopped.
And if we don't stop it, we, when I say we, this audience and ourselves, you see what we've done?
We've put our shoulder to the wheel across the board, either working with Naomi Wolf's team or the calls and emails and visits you made to get rid of McCarthy and to stop at least the arc of our own destruction in the House.
Across the board, everything.
And when you put your shoulder to the wheel, positive things happen.
And that must happen again.
It must happen again now.
And if people don't do this, Speaker Johnson and his leadership don't do that, then they're going to pay the price.
We have to do it, and we have to do it now.
It is not a shiny toy.
We have to get to the bottom of J6, and I think we have to get to the bottom and adjudicate 2020.
2020. These are these are these are sores that are never till the boil is lanced.
We're never going to get we're never the American people you know this right now.
Even Schwarzenegger said that's why he wants a rematch of Biden and Trump.
Or he said he wouldn't fight a rematch of Biden and Trump because Biden could finally prove his legitimacy.
Let me go back to Dave Brat.
We got a lot to get through.
I got Barris.
I got Naomi.
We got a lot to do.
Brat, give me some more charts.
dave brat
Yeah, we can just go to the blue chart on medium household income by race and ethnicity.
Also, this matters, right?
What we're talking about is a political realignment against the old Democrats and the old Republican Party who put us in this position, right?
The free marketers, you know, I was a free marketer.
I love Adam Smith.
I love the invisible hand of the Scottish Enlightenment.
The Scottish were a tough crew, right?
They believed in all the things that made that invisible hand in free markets work.
Trust, honor, integrity.
Being frugal, saving for your kids, putting away for a rainy day.
That day's long gone.
And so now we have an opportunity for a realignment.
And I think you're right.
The black, brown, and blue collar workers are coming our way because of this chart.
The median family income of an Asian family is $108,000.
Whites are at $81,000.
Hispanics are at $62,000.
And African American and Indians are down way below that at $52,000 per year.
That's a significant gap.
And that's a gap that everyone is starting to wake up and realize what's going on.
You got basically what you were just talking about.
You got a God versus a no God vote.
And I know where the Hispanics and my black friends are going to come down on that one.
And I know where most all the blue collar workers are going to come down on that one.
And that's why the left is horrified.
And so the political views are just my own, but they're not political.
This is just social science and economics.
And one side, and Steve Moore wants that, that good news part, right, to his credit.
He's not over on the left is destroying this country.
He's doing what he thinks is best for this country.
And so I want to make that clear.
steve bannon
But going forward, we need to take on The deep state folks, the globalist folks, in these endless wars... We need protectionism because the structure that has been set up, the post-war international rules-based order, works against American workers, against American manufacturing, against American jobs, and against American industrial might.
We can't have unlimited immigration.
Everything Moore proposes is just dead wrong.
The thing's up on Fox and people should read it and look, I love Steve Moore, but we just radically disagree with his philosophy.
I will also tell you, and Zielinski ought to know this, Fox is, you ever saw the movie with, I think it was William Macy, The Cooler?
The guy they send in to the tables in Vegas to cool the hot hand in a craps table?
Murdoch News is now The Cooler.
You look at, you look at, you look at McCarthy and DeSantis and Youngkin and now Nikki, everybody they're getting back of.
Jeb Bush, Ruby, everybody trying to stop Trump.
They're anti-Trump.
They're never Trump.
They're overseeing Zelensky right now to do a special on Thanksgiving week.
Why don't we drill down on the corruption and where our money went?
Why don't we do a special on that?
Instead of being on Bret Baier or some softball puff piece about why they're fighting the Eastern Russian-speaking border.
of Ukraine is not in the vital, has nothing to do with the vital national security interest of the United States.
The southern border, that has everything to do with the vital national security interest of the United States.
So, Zelensky ought to be warned.
The cooler Murdoch is over there, just like this Steve Moore thing.
And Steve, you're just going to have to walk me through how you're going to get tax cuts.
I'm all for tax cuts.
I love tax cuts.
I just don't see, when you have two trillion dollars of deficits right now, as far as the eye goes, you're going to have to walk me through how you get to Dave, Brad, hang on one second.
I gotta get Barris in here.
Barris, you nailed it a couple weeks ago when you came on and talked about this poem that's come out from mainstream media.
You said it was about race and age, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Over the weekend, and they had a full meltdown on NBC, and now I think CBS and The Washington Post are all coming out.
Trump's up by five points from some, and the youth are abandoning him.
Walk me through, you've got a couple minutes here, I'll hold you through.
Walk me through your analysis.
richard baris
Yeah, age and race, Steve, age and race.
And that's what we've been talking about for months now.
Somebody owes Gary Langer at Langer Research, who polls for ABC News, an apology.
Because if you remember when he came out with the Trump plus 10, the biggest finding in that poll, which we defended him on, was the shift with 18 to 34 year olds.
Some of this is younger voters abandoning Joe Biden, Steve, but the other part of this is that they're not abandoning him to only undecided.
Trump is now in the 40s.
This is a group that Biden won more than 25 points.
So depending whether you're looking at 18 to 29 or 18 to 34.
So even if those undecideds go back to Biden, the problem is they're not going to stop Trump from inching up a little bit in the mid 40s.
That's devastating to a Democrat.
No Democrat can win with those kind of numbers.
They know it.
And then also race.
The non-white vote shift is real, Steve.
Everybody now has him, you know, ballpark 20% with a black vote share and 40 or higher, a little higher with Hispanic vote share.
Age and race is what it is all about, because those demographics overlap with other demographics that Democrats need.
Joe Biden needed to win the state of Pennsylvania, and we can talk about that in the new poll we just had up, you know?
steve bannon
Hang on.
Let's take a quick break.
We're going to come back.
You're just coming out with your rust belt polling.
And you're starting in Pennsylvania.
We're getting to all that.
Dave Brat's also with me.
The Bild newspaper is announcing that the German government is prepared to take refugees from Gaza, and they've also raised a security alert on terror, potential terror.
No refugees here whatsoever.
Cannot do it.
The House has got to get on top of this.
Impossible.
None.
Zero.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
Also if Denver can put up Mark Ruffo, more good news this morning, Mark Ruffo, the Board of Regents of the Iowa State, all the state universities, Iowa State, University of Iowa, the entire Board of Regents for the entire state have just outlawed diversity, equity, inclusion.
Amazing.
This needs to catch on and we need to push this hard in all the other states.
Another poison Put into the system here.
So the folks in Iowa have stepped up to a Chris Rufo up on Twitter.
Want to make sure everybody sees that.
Also make sure, well let's get Dave Bright in here for a second.
I want to, real quickly, let me get the turning point.
This conference that Charlie Kirk and the team are putting on, AmericaFest, AmFest, go to AmFest.com.
I've never seen a list of speakers like this with more speakers to be announced.
Go there, the 16th and the 19th.
All the War Impostors, you've been so great in coming in previous years.
This year we're also not just going to do the shows and I'll be doing meet and greets.
We're also going to do some breakout sessions.
One we're obviously working on right now is Grace to walk through the app.
Bill Blaster and how now you can use it, but can use it to increase your leverage in being a force multiplier We'll also be doing some other breakouts.
I think I'm gonna try to do one on Capital markets and geopolitics so just well worth attending Incredible speakers the worm be there a lot of posse members want to greet everybody Pack it like you did this year.
It'll be a great way to to end the year 16th of the 19th in the Greater Phoenix area Dave Brett, I know you've got to bounce.
Your assessment, and here's the thing, we just can't continue.
The America First movement has a very well thought through set of economics, and we can't go back to the old neoliberal that hasn't worked.
It hasn't worked because if it had worked, we wouldn't be in the jam we're in.
And we're in a jam.
And you can see this by your life.
Any closing thoughts before I let you bounce?
dave brat
Yeah, our elites, the 400 elites that kowtowed before Xi Jinping, I sold out our country.
That's the new piece.
The globalist elites, the leftists on campuses inculcating education.
Back at the Revolutionary War, our founders, one of the greatest generation of intellectuals, used not the invisible hand of freedom.
They used the visible foot.
They used the visible foot to get the institutions in place to have freedom.
That's what I think we're about.
That's what I think when you say America first.
I want to get the rule of law, the Constitution and freedom back for everybody so everyone in this country can take advantage of markets and free markets and have their family incomes grow and have happiness.
And so that's what we're all about.
But right now, we don't have freedom, right?
We have a tyranny and the left is always in charge of that tyranny.
They want the big government.
Never forget that.
At the end of the day, there's just one argument that matters when you talk about Fascism and totalitarians at the left are always talking about, the left wants big government, we want a smaller government, but in order to get that, we need to put up a fight and carry on the great tradition of the Judeo-Christian West.
steve bannon
Brother Fantastic, where are they going to get all your charts you're putting up?
dave brat
Yeah, all those charts.
Last week, we talked about several of those today.
But just Brat Economics on Getter.
I'll put all of these up this afternoon.
And it tells a complete story of what we got to do to get back on the right track and make it America again.
steve bannon
Thanks, you brother.
Fantastic.
Thanks for taking the time for us today, Dave Brett.
One of the smartest guys I know.
Barris, Pennsylvania.
The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, you're just coming out with this.
Walk me through the Rust Belt.
richard baris
Yeah, this is a massive study, Steve.
This is going to be the first of six polls that we are going to release this week.
This is the first.
Pennsylvania's the first.
We did Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, and Wisconsin.
So, I don't know if Denver's got it, but if they look at the map on the press release, it tells a tale.
It really does, Steve.
You're looking at the Supreme Court election.
We're not the only ones to find this.
And the Republican candidate actually did win Erie, but didn't perform well enough in some of the other counties, squeezing enough votes out, and that really is the difference here with Donald Trump.
He's really performing strongly in the Northeast and holding his own in some of these urban centers.
We're not the only ones to find this.
This is something that's important.
He's not really increasing his rural vote.
You know, he squeezes the blood from the stone as it is, but the reason he's leading Biden is because he's performing already at his targets in Allegheny, and he's doing four or five points better in Philadelphia.
Some of these blue areas, because of that non-white vote shift, is moving to Donald Trump by a few points.
Steve, you knock four points off in Philadelphia.
You knock off another three, four points in Allegheny.
That's a massive number of votes statewide.
And that is what we're seeing.
So basically, overall, Trump leads Biden in Pennsylvania by four.
That's a five point shift since our last final Rust Belt poll that we did in 2020.
So the other graphic, if they have it to put up, I mean, I'll just give away at least part of the goose right now.
The biggest shift came in Minnesota, of all places, which was interesting to me.
I mean, we did overstate Biden's support by about three points in 2020 in Minnesota.
We had him up by 10.
He won it by 7.
And it's about a 10-point shift there right now.
Again, in some ways this looks like 2016, but in many ways it's not.
Trump is performing stronger in the Rust Belt now than he did at any time in 2016 or 2020.
steve bannon
We're going to go through every day, and I'll get later, go through the crosstabs with you, but give me those states again, your Rust Belt poll.
You can put one out every day.
Give me the states.
richard baris
Pennsylvania's first, Michigan's coming up, Iowa, Ohio, Minnesota, and Wisconsin will have what we call the big six, right?
And yeah, the cost tabs are linked.
steve bannon
You agree that the 2024 election will be decided in this group of what we call the Rust Belt?
richard baris
Oh yes, without a doubt.
I mean, if Florida's not competitive, it really is.
Last poll we did in Florida, Trump was up by 10 points.
This will be decided.
You know, they call Pennsylvania the Keystone State, right?
And it's appropriate to call it that.
This will be decided in the Rust Belt.
And then, of course, you've got to add Arizona and Georgia to that.
But, I mean, if he's sweeping these states, Steve, he's taking Arizona and Georgia.
steve bannon
It reminds me of 16, what we saw in August and September.
As soon as President Trump got on point, it was Katy barred the door.
How did they go get your information?
Where do they find out more about this?
Where do they get to see the crosstabs?
richard baris
We're everywhere.
We're on Get Her Truth.
But the best place, Steve, is on Locals, peoplespundit.locals.com.
The press release for it is up there.
Go check out that map.
You can hover and click over every single interview we conducted to get the details of that particular interview.
And right below it are the cross tabs.
And really, folks, age, Race.
Age and race.
And if you want to check out more, look at income.
70 percent, Steve, in the primary, in the Republican primary, 70 percent of the non-college vote, Trump is winning.
I mean, the primary is 50 point lead for him.
steve bannon
Donnie, Donnie, Donnie, Donnie Deutsch, Donnie Deutsch, I want to go to this, I want to go to this electorate right now.
And I want you to make the pitch.
Biden's safe, Trump is unsafe.
No, make that pitch.
I want that pitch made.
You know why?
This is the way Trump wins 45 states.
Donnie Deutsch, you're the big genius there at Morning Mika.
I want you to go to this electorate, where the country is, what they're living through, and I want you to make the case.
Biden is safe and Trump and his followers are unsafe.
That's what you said.
That's going to be the framing.
We'll take that bet.
We'll do an up or down vote on that and Donald Trump will win 45 of the 50 states.
Barris, thank you.
Give social media one more time.
Where do people follow you?
richard baris
Yeah, best place, Steve, is localspeoplespundit.locals.com.
We're on Getter, at Peoples Pundit, and on, you know, everywhere else.
But Locals is the best place, and if I had two seconds, I would just say this.
We can go through all the demographics, but basically what we're hearing is that people just believe Donald Trump was a better president.
Their lives were better under him.
And that is going to be a tough, tough mountain to climb.
steve bannon
This is for Nikki Haley and Murdoch News and Ron DeSantis.
I don't want to hear any theoretical what you're going to do.
I got living example and living proof of what a man did against all odds.
What he did against all odds and against the entire apparatus aligned against him.
It's called peace and prosperity.
That's what a president of the United States against in a turbulent time, in a turbulent time, Peace and prosperity.
Donnie Deutch, we'll take that bet.
You're going to argue that Biden's going to be safe.
Go out to this electorate, argue right now.
Trump will be up another five points by next week.
Barrister, fantastic.
We're going to go through every day in a different state.
Thank you so much, brother.
richard baris
All the best, Steve.
Thanks.
steve bannon
Thank you my man.
I need, we need the audience totally immersed in this situation about the economy because coming back, Chip Roy is going to make a big deal about it.
We're going to make a big deal about it.
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Naomi, you've got a lot to break and talk about.
We're compressed with time, but I've got to start.
I've got about a minute here.
Naomi Klein, is her husband like a sales rep for Pfizer?
Am I correct in this?
He's a sales rep for Pfizer?
naomi wolf
Well, I wouldn't go that far yet, but a pretty shocking discovery that I made yesterday For people who have not been following the story, Naomi Klein is a formerly very distinguished intellectual who's written a book, apparently, I haven't read it yet, but I guess now I have to, about me and you, Steve, and how we pose, I guess, a grave threat to society and democracy.
But it's a whole book kind of projecting onto me her own I don't know, internal turmoil.
Point is, I didn't know why she, a distinguished intellectual, had taken the time to write a book-long smear against another public intellectual.
And now there's a really interesting suggestion of what a motivation could be.
unidentified
Her husband, Avi Lewis, is a spokesperson for I tell you what, we're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
This is too delicious.
This is too delicious to tuck in.
We're going to come back.
We're going to go through it all.
Naomi Klein, who's had a meltdown about Sister Wolf, next in the War Room.
unidentified
Your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
The reason this is important, by the way, so there's a Harvard-Harris, I don't think Denver has it yet, but Grace just pulled it, Harvard-Harris poll.
And this gets back to one of my contentions here that's really got me furious.
Harvard-Harris 2024, and I understand you vote state by state, just like an election.
So, you know, their directionally are important.
This is Harvard-Harris.
So this is not, um, this is not, um, you know, this is not, uh, Barris or Gateway Pundit or War Room or something like that.
Uh, Trump 67, up 7, DeSantis 9.
unidentified
Um, the, um, oh, excuse me.
steve bannon
This is the interactive polls.
Harvard Harris, uh, Trump 75, DeSantis 25, Trump 81, Nikki Haley 19.
The changes versus October, I mean, Nikki Haley's going in the wrong direction.
Now, Murdoch News, and this is what the crime is, given everything we walked through today, the economic data, what's happening on the polling, the meltdown of the, because now they understand they can't go after and talk about performance of Trump and performance of Biden.
That can't happen.
They lose that.
Now, It's the fact that Trump is dangerous and you're dangerous.
And you're dangerous on many levels.
You're dangerous because of how we stood in the breach on the pandemic and the mandates and the vaccines and all of it.
You're super dangerous there.
You're super dangerous because what you're saying about the global geopolitical situation, what you're saying about the financial situation of the country, what the economic situation, what has to happen at the house, that you're actually exerting your power, and also about issues on the evasion of the southern border.
You're dangerous.
The Economist, the most respected and revered magazine of the elites, of the global elites, says that Trump is the biggest danger to the planet In 2024 and that his followers are part of that problem.
And here you're seeing in the poll after poll if there's starting to be a spread in the primary.
So what is Fox to Fox with you know, it's pushing the RNC has got another debate another debate platform more.
They're trying to consolidate because they're smart.
They think there may be a shot in case Trump has has legal problems that they'll have somebody ready to go the Nikki Haley or whoever it is.
But they're also, let's look downrange, they're also going to get some funding and donors to get in back of, and I think it'll be Nikki, to have somebody that consolidates that 10 or 15 percent of the Never Trump vote in the Republican Party, the establishment, the country club said, to be able to force the situation in the summer of 2024 and saying, hey, you got to have her as VP.
This is how you unite the party.
We got to unite the party.
Although they've been up there from day one trying to disunite the power of this movement.
To top it all off, not this week, but next week, Hannity is actually going to have, now think about this for a second, Hannity is going to have a debate, a national debate between Newsom, who's the guy the Democrats are trying to shift out, trying to get Biden to step aside and put in, versus DeSantis.
Now, why would you possibly have that?
If not to raise the profile of DeSantis as being somebody that should be considered a national figure against Newsom, why would you possibly have?
Why would you turn 90 minutes of that over when we've got to make sure that we can secure the vote?
Not just get out the vote, but secure it.
Why would you do that?
Why is the RNC continuing to push these ridiculous, ridiculous debates with the numbers falling through the roof?
Any regular show would be canceled.
Why are they putting their money there?
Here's why, ladies and gentlemen.
If they can't defeat you, they want to blunt it enough so they can somehow try to co-opt it.
We're in the co-option phase.
In the Murdoch's and Newsom's, you should understand this, you're going to the network of the cooler.
The Murdoch's are the coolers.
So, bro, right now you're, you know, you and Lady Macbeth are pushing and you're doing every angle.
You're sitting there kissing, you know, you go over and kiss Xi's ass in China.
Oh, because climate change is going to help us climate change.
You kind of avoided the slave labor over there.
Lao Bai Jing.
Of course, she came back.
You won't clean the streets for the citizens.
You won't clean the streets for the poor kids who got to walk past that crap in San Francisco.
But when the dictator comes, your buddy, the guy's going to solve climate change.
You'll clean it up for that.
Just be forewarned, we're the first ones to say on this show years ago, watch Newsom.
Newsom's the guy they're going to turn to.
You're going over to the cooler.
I'm just saying, you're, you know, read your, have Lady Macbeth read your tarot cards beforehand because you're going to the land of the cooler.
And I think it's outrageous that Murdoch News would present what they're going to pump up as some national debate to try to put life back in, try to resuscitate the political corpse of Mr. Personality.
That would be Ron DeSantis.
Okay, I'm going to go to Naomi.
Naomi, we had the Bucharest, the huge conference over there, so many topics you're working on, you've got reports to do, but I've got to get back, and it's not to pick on Naomi Klein, because this is another element.
This is a public intellectual, and her whole drive of this book, and she was lauded, she went all over, and she did, and she's very smart.
There's no doubt, she's very smart.
This is a smart take on things from their perspective.
Because one thing she said in there, she goes, hey, you got to watch your show, War Room, because they are focused on things that we, the Democratic leads, don't think are a big deal.
We laugh off, but it's of concern of working class people.
I can tell that.
And these people are maniacal about getting those issues and blowing them up.
And on that, she's absolutely correct.
But she went after you personally.
It was so personalized that it was pretty shocking.
And that's why this reveal.
About her husband, and of course, being the war room, I gotta, you know, take it to the, I gotta cut the volume up on it.
He's actually not technically a sales rep for Pfizer, but in all purposes, he's a sales rep for Pfizer.
Am I wrong in that, ma'am?
naomi wolf
No, in effect, you're absolutely right.
I mean, look, I never like personal attacks, and that's one reason I didn't respond to her personal attack, but this really represents something much, much bigger, of course, and the fact that Our intellectuals seem to be being kind of rebranded by forces behind them, aligned with giant pharmaceutical profits, is a very serious development.
So Avi Lewis, who is Mr. Naomi Klein, essentially, and who has run for office in Canada, on the left, is now hosting a series of, quote, Public PharmaCare Now, capital N-O-W, round tables and town halls across Canada.
The timing is really interesting.
It could have gone back earlier than May of this year.
I don't know.
And it could have extended up to more recently than three months ago.
But it certainly has covered May through August or so, meaning the same period of time where his wife was putting her book into the presses and starting on her book tour.
So you literally have this public intellectual attacking me, attacking you, promoting, I gather, vaccines, trying to undermine my credibility, the posse's credibility, and by extension undermine the work we're so publicly doing, showing people what the dangers are of blindly trusting pharmaceutical giants.
And her husband is, you know, salesperson, maybe not literally, but lobbyist, advocate, spokesmodel for PharmaCare.
What is Pharmacare?
It's a proposal by Health Canada to use public taxpayer funds to pay for pharmaceuticals for all Canadians, which would be a multi-billion dollar win for big pharma if passed.
No more pesky capitalism to threaten shareholder revenues.
Pharmacare is the entity for which he's hosting these roundtables and town halls.
And the numbers are staggering, Steve.
What do Canadians spend on pharmaceuticals?
Almost $42 billion a year.
So just pass this, get this done.
Pharmacare now, and that is profits forever funded by, you know, the people of Canada who are suffering from tyranny in other ways that Naomi Klein isn't bothering to address.
But they don't even have to risk the ups and downs that, you know, we've driven Pfizer into here in the United States because year after year after year, the government will write them a gigantic check, a multi-billion dollar check, you know, into perpetuity.
And that's what Mr. Naomi Klein is fronting for right now.
steve bannon
And this is what they want to, this is what they want to, you know, Canada, much of what happens in Canada on this, on these types of things, it's kind of like they try it out there and it comes right to the U.S.
next.
So don't think this is not going to, they're not going to try to pitch this here in the U.S.
I want to go back, Naomi Klein really did, because she's very smart, she sings, the thing I think she fears the most is obviously not me and you.
She fears Average citizens that watch this show, collectively coming together and putting their shoulder to a wheel on a quite complicated project like you did, and exposing that type of power they're used to having on the left.
To have it on the right is something that, you can tell, it chills her to her core.
Walk me through, because this is what's so amazing about what this audience has done under the leadership of Amy Kelly and yourself and your team over there, is really The great strides have been made over the last couple of years with virtually no funding.
I mean, this was really a volunteer operation.
Talk to me about that.
Why is she so petrified about that?
naomi wolf
Well, I mean, we don't know what the relationship is, right, between whoever engaged Mr. Naomi Klein to advocate for, to sell this giant payday for the pharmaceutical industry And the book contract, the book launch.
But it's so interesting, you know, when you look at the tangle that is global culture now, all these news sites, not the War Room, but all these news sites like the BBC and the Guardian and the New York Times who took pharma money, who took Gates money, who took CARES Act money to lie to people about the safety of these injections, to lie to them about lockdowns and the origin of the virus,
And masking and mandates and the whole God, awful hell we've been through in the last three years.
They're the ones who've been promoting and promoting and promoting this book that seeks to discredit you and me and the posse, right?
So that's the mess we're in as a culture right now, that these giant corporations are, are dictating to governments what they do.
And to news outlets, what they do and to distinguished publishers, possibly what they do or the pressure is there.
So I would go back even further, actually.
It's so interesting that Naomi Klein is also very well known as a spokesperson for the Green New Deal.
And one of my first viral videos for Daily Cloud involved my reading the Green New Deal.
I'm a, you know, I'm a total environmentalist.
I was on the left at that time.
dr naomi wolf
I love the environment.
naomi wolf
I don't want climate change, if climate change is genuinely threatening humanity, obviously.
But I read the Green New Deal legislation, which no one else had done, and it literally is socialism veering on communism.
It literally puts a seventh of our economy into the hands of 15 unelected officials.
and creates like new financial instruments that are not even transparent.
I mean, it literally socializes a giant sector of the economy and creates kind of a commissariat to deploy billions of dollars without oversight.
So I busted that open and it's so interesting.
I think that was in about 2017.
It's so interesting that my career has been like hammered and hammered and hammered and hammered since about then.
dr naomi wolf
But the vaccines and pharma aren't the only kind of instrument of tyranny that we, the posse, and, you know, the work of the volunteers and you and I are exploding.
naomi wolf
You know, we started chipping away by bringing people transparency about what was really in the Green New Deal.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second, if you could.
I just want to hold you through the short commercial break.
I want to make sure everybody goes.
Talking about health, Jace Medical, the great team there, took the problem we have with the supply chain from the Chinese Communist Party, Rosemary Gibson's great book, ...and put it into action to make sure that you have access to your medicines when the Chinese Communist Party shuts it off.
Make sure you go to Jace Medical today.
Immerse yourself in the information on their site.
You're going to need it.
Short break.
unidentified
Back with Naomi in a second.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
The hook is, just click his thing.
Okay, uh, Andrew Desario Desiderio, a great reporter, follows stuff closely, saying there was a conference in Halifax over the weekend in the United States.
It was a foreign policy seminar.
U.S.
Senators were there.
They told people point blank that the U.S.
cannot keep its commitment to Ukraine without striking a bipartisan deal on border policy changes, a jarring message that took allies completely by surprise and have them now looking for insurances.
These broader policy changes are nothing.
We have plenty of laws.
The laws just have to be enforced.
That's why this is an invasion, an illegal alien invasion, thought up, conceived by the Biden regime and others in the NGO area.
And all these changes are talking about is just a sucker's play to get 60 to 80 more million dollars, billion dollars, excuse me, to the money laundering operation.
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon
There's zero chance we will fight this tooth and nail.
It's now time to bring this madness Ukraine looks like Dresden.
And there's at least, I think this is the number from the DOD number from August or September, which was at 70,000 men, women, children in the army.
They can't recruit in the army anymore.
They're Shanghai and people left and right.
What's happened there is a tragedy.
And we can stop that tragedy now.
So not one more penny is going to happen for Ukraine.
That will not happen.
But they delivered.
You know you're getting there when they're saying they've got to have a bipartisan... Because the Democrats are never going to prove any teeth in any kind of bipartisan policy.
It's time to say, OK, it's not happening.
It's not going to happen.
Naomi, I want to make sure you've got a book out that counters this, because her book is part of this fear package.
They're putting out, as Donnie Deutsch said, Biden is safety and security, Trump is chaos and anarchy.
That Biden's the safe bet and Trump's the unsafe bet.
You've known now from working the last couple of years against Big Pharma, which essentially is a partner to the regime.
And not just that, it's media.
If you took the Pharma ads off of MSNBC at night, you would get a test pattern.
Big Pharma is just running the deal, is running the deal right now.
So talk to me, talk to me about, talk to me about, your book takes the counter thesis, and of course, we've got some, obviously in our engine room, there's smart people sending me stuff all the time, one of the smartest people in the engine room has just told me flat out, is that
Naomi Klein is like the Jeff Sachs of the world, a public intellectual, and they're incredibly jealous of the fact that you've stepped forward in this movement, but actually leading a part of it that has helped, essentially helped save the American people because of the work you have led essentially average citizens in the war on Posse to basically get to the bottom of what Big Pharma did here in these vaccines.
unidentified
Yeah.
dr naomi wolf
Yeah.
naomi wolf
I'll take that because, you know, it was a group effort, and we've saved millions of lives now.
And this is the place that it happened, so no wonder we're being targeted.
dr naomi wolf
It's so funny, though, you know, these books do argue with each other, and I believe my book, Facing the Beast, wins the argument, of course.
naomi wolf
And it's interesting that they're kind of fighting it out on the category bestseller lists, too, with Facing the Beast winning there as well, for the most part.
But it takes your support.
dr naomi wolf
I mean, one of the things I tell the story of in Facing the Beast is this journey I took with you and the posse and the volunteers, which led to this historic achievement.
naomi wolf
And they can snipe at us all they want.
You know, they can publish as many books as they want.
dr naomi wolf
They can write as many checks to spouses of public intellectuals as they want.
naomi wolf
They're not going to stop us.
They're not going to stop the truth from coming out.
They're not going to stop us from saving lives.
But I was It's so weird how like messed up reputational politics is because I was interviewed by a Swedish journalist who said like, how can you talk to Steve Bannon?
dr naomi wolf
How can you talk to the posse?
naomi wolf
And I'm like, I really respect the fact that they cared about women being injured and babies dying in utero.
And the New York times didn't care.
And she kept pushing about Naomi Klein's book, you know, aren't you upset, et cetera.
And I said, you know what, we're in a global emergency and This is not a time to worry about reputation.
I don't care what names I'm called.
I'm saving lives.
dr naomi wolf
Talking to Steve Bannon, you know, with the posse, with the volunteers, we're saving lives.
naomi wolf
You know, I've had my kids.
These young women haven't had their kids yet.
I'm not going to stop until every single young woman and young man and people of all ages know what the risks are, know what the damage is, and I couldn't have done that without, you know, you and this platform and Amy Kelly and the volunteers and the posse.
So it's just fascinating that they think that someone being mean girl to me, like on an eighth grade level, is going to stop me from saving lives, and it's not.
Or, you know, working with all of you to save lives.
I guess the last thing I want to say is courage.
I'm sorry.
Facing the beast also has a dear conservatives.
I apologize.
And it addresses like some of the lies I believed before I was talking regularly to conservatives and libertarians and people of faith.
steve bannon
Amazing.
How do people get to Daily Clout?
Because there's still a lot more work to do.
I think we've had 3,500 volunteers, but how do people go volunteer?
How do they find out more about what's been accomplished, the book, your social media, all of it?
naomi wolf
Thank you.
Please go to dailyclout.io.
You can download all the reports.
There are 92 reports right there on the upper right-hand side.
dr naomi wolf
You can order Facing the Beast on Amazon.
naomi wolf
I'm also on Outspoken on Substack.
And those are the main places, but we really do need everyone's continued support.
And you can sign up to volunteer, of course, right there on dailycloud.io.
And we'll forge ahead.
We'll keep fighting.
dr naomi wolf
We are undeterred.
steve bannon
Of course.
We're not going to, we're never going to stop.
Thank you so much, Naomi.
Appreciate it.
Dr. Naomi Wolf.
This is one of the reasons the economist said that the Trump movement is the most dangerous thing on the planet.
You know why?
We're coming after that apparatus, this apparatus that has very far advanced in the destruction of this republic.
This republic was bequeathed to us as a cherished entity.
It's our moral responsibility to make sure that we pass this republic on.
We bequeath it like it was bequeathed to us.
Even in better shape, as every generation of this country has done.
Can we say this right now that we're going to do that?
I don't think so.
That's why Donald Trump's, his original call, make America great again.
Never, never, ever, ever forget what that means.
Make America great again.
President Trump, they're going to come at him so incredibly hard.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
They will do anything not to allow him to return to the White House on the afternoon of 20 January 2025.
We'll see you back here.
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