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Episode 3186: Meltdown Over The 14th
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What the economist writes, knowing that America would abandon Europe, Mr. Putin would have an incentive to fight on in Ukraine and to pick off former Soviet countries such as Moldova or the Baltic states.
Without American pressure, Israel is unlikely to generate an internal consensus for peace talks with the Palestinians.
Calculating that Mr. Trump does not stand by his allies, Japan and South Korea could acquire nuclear weapons.
By asserting that America has no global responsibility to help deal with climate change, Mr. Trump would crush efforts to slow it.
And he is surrounded by China hawks who believe confrontation is the only way to preserve American dominance.
Caught between a deal-making president and his warmongering officials, China could easily miscalculate over Taiwan with catastrophic consequences.
Talk to me about how much less safe America is with that vision of the new global order.
America is much less safe right now.
I think that this has always been shaped in the context of a political story.
What's going to happen if he wins?
This is a national security story right now.
He is a threat right now.
He is threatening people in America.
He is validating our enemies.
And he is the leader of what I've called the American insurgency. It's a social movement that seeks to reverse the election, overthrow the government and install him as the leader. That is happening right now. Every day he's out in the streets, he's posting social media, he is disrupting our civilization. He is an immediate national security threat that the national security apparatus is thinking about.
I think we look at this, what happens if he wins? What happens if he's out and doing this for the next 11 months? I think that is the more immediate threat. We've got to move that bar closer back because he's got, at the end of the day, millions of people who are angry with guns who will do what he says. I think we have to approach it in that kind of framework first and most of all.
I think also if he does win and you think about what that means for the geopolitical order, Amy referenced the greatest generation.
And in the greatest generation, America was part of the allied powers that were for liberal democracy and freedom against the axis powers that were for authoritarianism and dictatorship.
There is a rising axis of authoritarians out there in the world right now.
It includes Russia, it includes China, it includes countries like Turkey and Hungary, who are trading ideas and working together.
Whether there is a cold war or, God forbid, a hot war, the notion that America in the 21st century would be on the side of the Axis powers is a terrifying thought.
We don't make America great again by putting us on the Axis side and not the Allied side.
Let me ask you though, as someone who focuses a lot on elections, if every U.S.
election moving forward becomes this plea to voters, democracy is on the line.
One, what does that do to the very nature of our elections?
And two, can you ever advance as a country and as a society if democracy itself always remains in peril?
You can't.
You can't have a sustainable democracy where one of the two parties has been captured by an extremist authoritarian movement and is consistently representing the potential end of free democracy.
But I don't think that's where we necessarily need to be.
We have a significant anti-MAGA, anti-authoritarian majority in this country.
The challenge we have is some of our electoral system design choices actually make it so that a plurality, not a majority, Could mean gerrymandering, the electoral college.
And if you go back and look at the early 20th century after the Great Depression, a loss of faith in institutions, you see a fracturing of parties around the world in the United States, in Europe, a lot like we're seeing today where we're seeing a fracturing of parties, third party candidates rising.
And the danger is when it fractures like that, a plurality faction can sneak through And people who do not represent a majority of views can take power.
It's why some of these third-party candidates represent one of the greatest threats right now, because they could create a situation in which a very unpopular authoritarian leader could sneak through and take power again.
And breaking in just the last hour, Speaker Mike Johnson announcing that security footage of the January 6th attack will be made available to the public.
That includes footage that was given to then Fox News host Tucker Carlson by Speaker Kevin McCarthy earlier this year.
You poured through this footage.
You took steps to make sure that the footage didn't disclose sensitive security information.
Your reaction to Speaker Johnson's move today.
Yeah, it's dangerous.
You know, the Capitol Police gave it to us, Alicia, with really strict conditions that we needed to clear with them before we publicly showed any of that footage.
That's relevant because it demonstrates some events in and around the Capitol.
There are security cameras posted all over the complex, but the specific location of those cameras is closely held law enforcement sensitive information.
And if they're all disclosed and a map can essentially be recreated as to where they are, That will make it easier for future rioters who are intent on disrupting another joint session of Congress or official proceeding to circumvent those cameras.
So it's really risky to just throw the doors open and make them together without any protection.
There's also the fact that just this week you had a Republican congressman peddling conspiracy theories about what actually happened on January 6, trying to argue that the FBI was involved in January 6.
You take this footage, And you put it in the hands of bad actors.
Who knows where it goes?
Well, and I think it's a bit weird that Mike Johnson is doing this.
He's recently become the Speaker of the House, right?
He was a sort of consensus candidate when they kind of panicked after three weeks of Republicans not having a Speaker.
And also, he recently endorsed Donald Trump.
So, you have to wonder, is he doing this as like a campaign stunt, or is he doing this in his job as Speaker of the House?
Break it down a little bit more for our viewers so they have a better understanding, because I, too, am saying this is a head-scratcher.
It really is, Katie, and you were talking before about Congress and the budgetary crisis with Congress kicking the can down the road.
This is an example of a judge kicking the can up the road.
She's made this baseline finding that Trump participated in insurrection.
But to be removed from the ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, you have to have taken an oath as an officer of the United States.
And she curiously found that the president is not an officer of the United States.
There's some technical legal jargoning going on here.
Now this will go to the Colorado Supreme Court for a decision as to whether they'll reverse and find that Trump... This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
steve bannon
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Saturday, 18 November, the year of our Lord, 2023.
We're kicking off, this is the week of Thanksgiving, our favorite show of the week, the Saturday morning show.
A lot to get to in the, what are we, the nerve center of the American insurgency?
That's all that discussion at the front, which is, it shows you the danger of this economist Cover story for their year and looking forward to 2024 where it calls MAGA and Donald Trump the the most dangerous Forces in the entire world.
I want you to think about that for a second.
We're going to go through that the entire show today We got a lot to get to from Rome.
We're going to be in Romania with the COVID conference.
Ben Harden was going to join us from Rome.
We're going to go out to Tyler, Texas with Bishop Joseph Strickland.
But I want to start with Julie Kelly.
In this J6 footage, Mike Davis is going to join us from Denver.
So we're going to cover everything today, including the southern border.
So let's get to work.
Julie Kelly, they're not happy.
That the footage has finally been released.
Folks, I want you to understand that after 11 months in power, we finally, Mike Johnson finally gives us the footage.
Julie, walk us through all of it, ma'am.
julie kelly
So let's take a little victory lap here.
As I said on Twitter last night, we have to take the small victories when we get them.
And this certainly is a victory.
You have been pressuring House Republicans to do this.
I certainly have my first article about releasing the tapes I wrote in May of 2021.
When we found out that at least 14,000 hours of security footage had been put under protective orders as court proceedings occurred for January 6th defendants.
So this is a big win because to your point, all the right people are melting down.
Not just the people that you see on MSNBC, but you see Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger lashing out, Jamie Raskin lashing out.
But look, this is just the start.
The American people have not seen this footage.
We have seen some of it.
I have access to some of this footage.
I've seen it.
I've posted some of it, but the majority of the public has not seen this.
And that is why these people are freaking out.
And this is just the beginning of the breaking of the dam here, Steve.
There's going to be more footage released that not just show police helping people in, but the level of police brutality that day.
That prompted a lot of the clashes between protesters and police.
There's going to be a lot more seen.
And as I said, this is the beginning of the breaking of the dam.
To the point that you have made, and I've made also, we need a January 6th select committee run by Republicans.
Put these people like Tim Heafey, who was just interviewed.
Why did Tim Heafey cover up Heapy or whatever his name is?
Why did the January 6th committee?
Cover up parts of their investigation related to the involvement of federal agencies and the FBI.
Why didn't the January 6th committee interview FBI Director Christopher Wray?
How can you have an investigation and not interview the head of the top law enforcement agency in the country?
So there is a lot more truth to be revealed about January 6th.
And Steve, you could see the response on our side on social media.
This is a huge issue to the base and Republicans are getting to see that first and foremost.
This is a huge issue, not just the truth and the coverup, but of course the 1200 Americans and counting who have been ensnared in this abusive, retaliatory Department of Justice investigation.
I was just in Washington this week.
I sat in jury selection for another January 6th defendant, 478 days between his arrest and his trial.
And watching this DC jury pool come through, the comments that they make about January 6th and the protesters speaks to not just the unfair trials that are going on, but how in the hell is Donald Trump going to get a fair jury seated for his March 4th trial in the nation's Capitol?
There's so much happening with this, which is why House Republicans now need to take the next step and create their own committee because the videos are just only one part of this.
steve bannon
I want to repeat this.
It's imperative for Johnson to, when he gets back, I think on Tuesday is the first day back a week, he must reinstate the Joint Committee on J6.
Let him have a ranking member.
Let him have minority counsel.
Let's set it up the right way.
Not the way that was set up.
It's one of the key arguments.
I've made in my case, which I don't talk much about, but this is, you can't do it the way Nancy Pelosi did it.
You have to do it by the rules.
But Johnson must set this up.
We must have the House go through and do a formal, this must be adjudicated with Democrats thrown in.
Two things we must adjudicate now, must be done, is number one, we have to get to the bottom of J6.
And this footage is part of it.
We have to get to the bottom of it.
Wherever it leads, we have to get to the bottom of it.
All of it.
All of it.
And you also have to investigate Nancy Pelosi's committee.
This committee, I think there's brazen criminality in what they did, and I think that will be proven.
Criminality.
Do you agree with me?
Julie, you filed this closer than any person in the country.
Do you agree with me?
julie kelly
Absolutely.
They have already buried evidence.
We are still waiting for the production of records from the Secret Service.
That have now been buried at the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, and the Biden White House.
So there are still records that Barry Laudermilk, who is the head of the House Administrative Committee, who has been looking into this, he has sent letters to the Biden White House and DHS and other authorities seeking these missing records.
Get this, Steve, all of the video interviews, you know, they, they offered the J6 committee would offer clips of that during their Yeah.
televised performances, none of those video, none of that footage has been archived or given over to House Republicans.
Why not?
Because we know we're gonna be able to compare what was really said, or at least the context of some of these clips.
Also, I want all of those four celebrity January 6th committee, January 6th cops, Mike Fanone, Dan Hodges, Equilina Ganell, and Harry Dunn.
They not only lied under oath to Congress in that hearing, they have lied under oath in court testimony and victim impact statements that have prompted longer prison sentences because they've all lied about what they endured on January 6th, what they saw, allegations of racism.
Michael Fanone was almost killed.
We also have footage that totally contradicts that.
Those four need to be put back on the stand under oath and explain their lies.
steve bannon
Amen.
Offense, offense, offense.
Julie, where do we go to get you?
Social media, your site, your substack, all of it.
julie kelly
Substack, declassified with Julie Kelly.
Twitter, Julie underscore Kelly 2.
And through social, Julie underscore Kelly.
steve bannon
Julie, thank you so much for taking time today.
Julie Kelly, we need to go on offense.
unidentified
The tip of the tip of the spear, Julie Kelly.
steve bannon
Three years of her life covering this.
Short break, Mike Davis in Denver.
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Next.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, we got Mike Davis, Jeff Clark, and Kash Patel.
We're gonna get to the bottom.
And I wanted to tee it up first with the J6 footage because it's inextricably linked.
Look.
Why is the economists doing this?
Why are they in meltdown?
Why now are you part of an American insurgency?
MAGA is the worst thing in the world.
This is all Biden runs against.
You guys are criminal in nature.
You're the backbone of the nation, but you're the worst people ever born and are set to destroy the United States of America.
Why is that?
Because we're getting stronger every day.
They know that.
The MAGA tide is ascendant.
They understand that.
They understand we're much more sophisticated and tougher than in 2016.
That's why you have all these people working on all these different efforts about deconstructing the administrative state when President Trump takes office again.
No more games, as President Trump would say.
You can't go forward Until you get to the bottom of the 2020 steel, and you can't go forward until you get to the bottom of J6.
Just can't do it.
These things will fester for decades.
Always be questioned.
We have to have the truth come out, whatever the truth leads us.
Wherever the facts lead.
The facts have to come out on both those events.
They must come out.
They must come out now.
Speaker Johnson needs to re-initiate the J6 committee and not a bogus like Benny Thompson and Pelosi.
You have to have a ranking member, a Democrat, and they have to have minority counsel.
That's the American, you know, common law system.
It has to.
They have to be able to see evidence.
They have to be the cross-examined witnesses.
If we had done this the original way, It wouldn't be in this situation today.
That must happen.
And Speaker Johnson can make it happen.
And look, this is not a shiny toy.
We don't jump on shiny toys here.
The J6 footage is incredible.
Some of the stuff has come out.
If we can play that one thing that Benny Johnson Now think Dom Lucra.
Think Dom Lucra put it up first, got over a million hits.
If we can play that.
You see right here, this is a federal asset.
Look at this guy.
He's all dressed up, he's got a helmet on, never takes the helmet off.
He's handcuffed, they take him off to the side, they undo the handcuffs, and then he fist bumps one of the officers, one of the Capitol Hill officers, or one of the DHS guys.
You're telling me that's a J6?
You're telling me that's a... First off, if that's a J6 guy, why are they doing it?
Doesn't feel like an insurrection.
That's the type of question you have to get to.
You have to get to who is that guy.
He has to come forward, testify.
You gotta get ready.
You gotta get all of them.
This stinks to high heaven.
People know that.
And now that we're in power, and it is obscene, and this is one of the McCarthy situations in the establishment, because they don't want... The Republican establishment hates you as much, or even more, than the radical left.
I know that may be hard to believe, but it's true.
That's why they've suppressed us.
It's November going into December of the first year that we've taken the house, and we haven't done this yet, but it must happen immediately.
And people should start working seven days a week, 20-hour days.
This is one of the urgent tasks before us.
It must happen.
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Okay, Mike Davis.
Denver is a lot more complicated than Peel.
She blanked.
It's a huge win for the president.
But this is set up here.
I want you to walk through it.
I've got Clark here and I've got Cash.
Because we got to get to the bottom of all this and they're going to use this as political warfare.
There's no doubt. Walk us through where we are in Colorado, sir.
mike davis
Who is legally by it. She donated last year last last October to an anti Trump January 6th PAC with its mission to chase Republicans out of office.
The Democrat governor named Sarah Wallace as a judge in August, effective January 2023.
Between when the governor named her and when she took the bet, she made this donation to this anti-Trump January 6th PAC.
So at the beginning of the trial, Trump filed a motion to recuse, and she said, oh, I don't remember making this donation.
Regardless, I can still be fair.
Well, that's not the legal standard, and it's not believable that she doesn't remember making You would think that it was just a year ago you would remember the donations you made, particularly after you're a judge designee by the governor and you're waiting to take the bench.
So it's just not credible that she doesn't remember making this anti-Trump January 6th donation in October of 2022, right before the midterm elections.
And it doesn't matter.
Under the legal standards, she is objectively biased.
It doesn't matter whether she thinks subjectively she could be fair, objectively she's biased.
And she delivered for the Democrats despite the headlines, right?
And here's how she delivered.
She had this trial, and during this trial she let in this January 6th report, which is clearly inadmissible hearsay evidence.
And her rationale for doing this is, oh, well, this was a bipartisan commission.
And no, I know that there was some trouble with the Republicans and they boycotted this thing, but you, you know, and Speaker Pelosi appointed Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger to this commission, but they're good Republicans.
So it, you know, it's, it's, it's reliable evidence, which is just complete nonsense to every war room listener.
They laugh if you think that Liz Cheney And adding Adam Kinzinger are reliable Republicans, right?
We know they're not, right?
They're Trump deranged and Trump fried their brain and they're Democrats now, effectively.
But, so this Sarah Wallace let this evidence in at this trial and then she used this evidence at trial to say that there was an insurrection, right?
Which is just nonsense as you saw from these videos that Speaker Mike Johnson released.
How the hell was that an insurrection?
How many insurrectionists Go into a nation's capital, unarmed, follow police direction, walk through velvet ropes, get to the Senate floor of the nation's capital, take selfies, don't burn down the damn place, don't break every statue, and they walk out, right?
January 6th was a lawful protest, permitted by the National Park Service, that got out of control and turned into a riot.
You know, we may find that it got out of control because federal agents Provoke people like you were talking about, Steve.
And this video is so important because it may prove that.
But regardless, this is not an insurrection under any definition of insurrection.
It's just laughable to say that January 6th was an insurrection.
It was a riot, right?
But Sarah Wallace used this one-sided January 6th report.
They brought in these performance artists, Capitol Police officers, And others, and this goofball expert from Las Vegas who says when Democrats say fight, they mean it in the political sense, but when Republicans like Trump say fight, they mean go commit violence.
It was just a head scratcher watching this thing.
It was laughable, right?
And I sat through this trial.
And so then Judge Wallace said, OK, there's an insurrection and we're going to just ignore Supreme Court precedent for 50 years or 60 years.
The Brandon Berg versus Ohio case where it talks about the requirement for the incitement of violence.
We're just going to ignore that.
We're going to say that there's a different legal standard under the 14th Amendment that she just made up.
And so Trump caused This insurrection, whether it's whether it's incited or whatever, he caused this insurrection somehow.
unidentified
OK, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on here and slow down once.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure.
In this trial, and correct me if I'm wrong, she had experts come on on when they make in the prosecution's case or one prosecutor, but the the against Trump case.
And they had people come in and talk about insurrection.
The only evidence thereof she ever submitted was the complete, was the, I shouldn't say complete because it's not a complete, the existing report of the JSIC committee.
She, they put in as evidence, correct?
I just want to make sure that's the evidence they brought forward for Trump as an insurrectionist.
mike davis
They brought in that report.
They also brought in police officers with first-hand witness.
So it's not just the report, but it was heavily based upon that hearsay report, that biased hearsay report.
And we see from the tapes that Speaker Mike Johnson just released that that report was bogus.
It was biased because it only showed selective clips of January 6th, the worst clips, and it didn't show all the clips and it didn't show any clips in context, right?
Because it's very clear that January 6th was a lawful protest that got out of control and turned into a riot.
And we've said, as we've said all along, there are three categories of people who were there that day.
There were People who were there, who showed up and they were peaceful and they didn't trespass and they didn't commit any violence.
They had an absolute right to be there, right?
The people who trespassed, if you could even say that many of them trespassed when the doors were open for them, but the people who trespassed should be charged with trespassing.
The people who were violent should be charged with violence, right?
And it may be different whether it's provoked or not provoked violence, but there are many categories of people there that day, right?
unidentified
And what the Democrats have done is just lump them all together.
steve bannon
Thank you.
And we're going to take that report apart brick by brick in the following couple of weeks because it's so important as it was put here as the basis for the claim that he's an insurrectionist.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Here's one thing.
I want to put a pin in it.
I'm going to come back and ask you and Clark.
She, in this ruling, has gone down a slippery slope.
Are you to tell me by putting in a congressional report that can be a predicate for action to take someone off a ballot?
Can we therefore take the report that could come out very quickly on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden taking cash even before the impeachment inquiry goes and not use that to take Joe Biden off ballots and stakes?
Can we not start moving forward on taking Biden off?
If this is her standard...
If the standard is a congressional report, that it was a committee that was not set up appropriately, there is no question about it.
There was no ranking member, there was no minority council, there was no ability to see the evidence and cross-examine, like Cassie Hutchinson.
The judge has opened up Pandora's box.
It's time for MAGA maybe to jump in and use Pandora's box.
Short break.
Clark, Kash Patel, Mike Davis next in the War Room.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K Vance.
steve bannon
We have a lot of stuff we have to juggle.
We have Peter McElveen.
He's over in Romania.
This annual COVID, this international COVID conference is amazing.
We're going to be streaming parts of it later today.
McElveen is also doing interviews.
We're going to try to get him here live in the second hour, but there's a ton going on.
It's just amazing information coming out on COVID that we know everybody, the whole, the vaccine, the mandates, all of it, the origination of the, of the bioweapon, all of it.
So we're going to make sure we've got him over as our special correspondence.
Hearts of Oak.
We'll get to all that.
Also want to make sure that the rhetoric is one of the reasons I play this.
Economist, these clips, and I'll play more on Monday.
The rhetoric against you, against this audience, is now reached beyond a level of danger.
Just hear them in their own words.
You're the most dangerous element of, you know, you're a domestic extremist, violent extremist.
A million of you have, millions of you have guns that Trump's working you folks up every day.
They hate the fact that you have power.
They hate the fact that you're exerting your power.
They hate the fact that they see the rising tide of populist nationalism in this country.
They hate the fact that they're now people with years of experience.
You saw the MSNBC 22 minute hit piece on Mike Davis where they say, hey, look, this guy is so qualified.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
They go through the qualifications.
This is what you're seeing about the attacks on the Jeff Clark's of the world and the Russ votes.
People have had senior jobs in the administration before we'll come back in.
They're in panic, and we must take that into our calculations as we go forward.
Their fear and panic means they're going to make more and more mistakes, and we're going to take advantage of every one of those mistakes, because our objective here is to free the American people of the administrative state and its rogue national security and law enforcement element, the deep state.
That is our task and purpose, and in doing that, make sure that we restore the peace and prosperity of the Trump administration the years 2017 to 2019 before the CCP hit us with a bioweapon and of course the forces of darkness presented the summer of love in 2020.
You all remember that, right?
So the way we're going to do this is to use the actual rules against them.
One of the reasons we must have the reinstatement of the J6 committee immediately Is to use that as a platform to adjudicate what actually happened on the 2020 election, the reality, the facts, and what happened on January 6th.
I think there's no doubt you'll see that this is a fedsurrection.
I think that's why they're so panicked.
Why have they held this footage?
It's a footage.
It's just like the numbers in 2020.
If it was on their side, you would have your nose rubbed in it every day.
You would have had your nose rubbed in this footage every day.
That's why they're so panicked.
It's so dangerous.
You can see the camera angles.
It's all more lies, spin, and misrepresentation.
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Mike Davis, where did the ruling yesterday leave us, and what is the path forward?
mike davis
So yeah, this Denver District Court Judge Sarah Wallace just ignored the hearsay rules.
She found that there was an insurrection, which is laughable after you watch these videos released by Speaker Mike Johnson, and she held that Trump caused that insurrection, which is laughable if you look at Supreme Court precedent like the Brandenburg case.
So now where we go, she got right to the edge, she pushed the ball as far as she could, but I think she was starting to feel the heat and she blinked.
And so there's a bit of a tactical retreat.
She held, she ruled that, yeah, there was an insurrection, Trump caused it, but under the 14th Amendment, under section three of the 14th Amendment, the disqualification clause, she isn't sure whether the president is an officer under the 14th Amendment, and so therefore she's going to err on the side of caution.
What this does is it allows these Democrat plaintiffs to take this right to the Colorado Supreme Court on that legal issue alone, to appeal directly to the Supreme Court under the special election challenge out here.
The Supreme Court is stacked by leftists because we stopped winning elections in Colorado when they legalized weed and went to all mail ballots and all the New York and California dirt balls moved here.
So the Supreme Court is probably going to reverse and hold that legally the President is included as an officer under the 14th Amendment and therefore President Trump is disqualified.
And then that puts the Supreme Court of the United States in a bad place from their perspective because they're actually going to have to put on their big boy pants Take a Trump case and do their jobs.
steve bannon
Mike Hanger for one second.
I'm bringing Jeff Clark.
Jeff, you came on the show.
We had Mike and Dershowitz on the first day this broke with Leonard Leo's Federalist Society getting back in.
You came in, I think, on the next day and you laid out exactly why she wouldn't be able to take him off the ballot.
Walk through that and do you think that this will hold over time?
Because it looks like they're going to try to worm their way around it.
Walk us through why you said at the beginning she would have to blink at this level.
unidentified
Sure.
Let me just make one point, a finer point on the January 6th stuff.
So the way that she led in the January 6th report, which I think is truly ludicrous, is she said, I'll admit it conditionally subject to cross-examination of Tim Heafey, who was the top lawyer, the investigative lawyer for the January 6th committee for Nancy Pelosi, really, and Betty Thompson, and Troy Nells, the Republican representative, right?
I mean, this is ridiculous, the idea that there's someone who is not a witness, right, in HEFI, he's just a lawyer, and he somehow can sanitize all of the hearsay evidence because you can ask him questions about what the witnesses said.
That's, like, truly ridiculous.
And, you know, the idea that you could admit the January 6th report, I think, you know, is something that would be laughed out of 90% of courts in America.
On your question about, you know, what is the substance of her ruling here, so that, you know, you've gone through the two bad elements of her decision, her finding that Trump engaged in an insurrection, that he incited to it with violence, right, and that that was not protected by the First Amendment because she found it met the Brandenburg test for imminence, intention, and tendency.
Uh, which I think that's a very vulnerable ruling in and of itself, but it's 102 page ruling, Steve.
She doesn't get to the bottom line, which she could have reached because it's really a threshold question until page 100 to 101.
And on that page, she says, while the court agrees that there are persuasive.
Uh, arguments on both sides.
The court holds that the absence of the president from the list of positions to which, uh, the amendment applies.
And that's the argument I laid out in my paper on the citizens for renewing America site, uh, combines with the fact that section three, uh, specifies that the disqualifying oath is one to support the constitution.
Whereas the presidential oath is to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution.
It appears that the court, for whatever reason, I'm sorry, that the To the court that, for whatever reason, the drafters of Section 3 did not intend to include a person who had only taken the presidential oath.
So I think that is a very solid argument, but it's an argument I've already seen Judge Ludig attacking as, you know, technical.
And actually, during the same time you're running your show, I think Ali Velshi was having Tribe and Ludig on to, you know, attack the decision.
So given the nature of the Colorado Supreme Court, I would not be surprised if they reversed.
But, you know, then it's going to go to the U.S.
Supreme Court, as we've all been predicting for a long time.
But let's go back to the threshold question.
steve bannon
His point, I was going to make it, but he brought it in so brilliantly.
In a 102-page opinion, it's the last page.
It's essentially before you get to the, you know, it's on page 100, she actually gets to the punchline.
She knew this at the beginning.
Was not this entire trial just to get the J6 report in as some sort of thing to designate Trump as an insurrectionist?
Was that her whole purpose the entire time, as you can tell by the 99 pages she wrote on this?
Because she knew this.
There's nothing in this trial, not one piece, that came up that is relevant to actually the threshold question of does the oath It's a pure question of law.
You don't need a trial to answer this question, right?
You just need to write briefs on both sides and then have the judge construe the provisions.
So, you know, lawyers have this phrase, Latin, obiter dicta, right?
unidentified
It's a pure question of law. You don't need a trial to answer this question, right? You just need to write briefs on both sides and then have the judge construe the provisions. So, you know, what lawyers have this phrase, Latin, obiter dicta, right? This is superfluous material, things you don't need to say, things you don't say as a matter of judicial restraint.
This entire opinion is a dicta fest because it's 100 pages of, you know, besmirching Trump and saying he loses this argument, he loses that argument based on facts, but based on facts that come in from the January 6th report, which is not evidence.
It's just a report.
It's an opinion of a bias set up by Nancy Pelosi that excluded the Republicans who were selected by the Republican conference.
Um, and you know, that's just not the way you do analysis.
Chief Justice Roberts has a great quip where he said that if it's not necessary to decide, uh, more to a case than in my view, it is necessary not to decide more to a case.
In other words, you only decide what you need to decide and that's it.
You could have just like written a five page opinion with this point up front.
And then it's, you know, then you don't need to reach anything.
And you say, I don't need to reach any of the other questions because Uh, you know, this answer is dispositive and it disposes of this case.
That's the way a judge with judicial restraint acts.
So this judge was not doing that.
And we know that because she's biased, right?
She's a Democrat.
She, you know, Democratic, uh, I'm sorry, donated to the Democrat organization that Mike Davis has really been dogging.
And so, you know, she's just trying to throw as much dirt as possible on Trump.
before she backs away from the precipice.
She did have a nice footnote, I will say, Steve, where she says, look, there are arguments on both sides, but if they're unclear, we have to quote, err on the side of democratic norms.
In other words, let the people of the United States vote for who they want to have as their president.
And I think that's really the overarching point that many of us have been urging for some time.
steve bannon
Mike, does this now, going to the Colorado Supreme Court, is this really exposed as kind of a PSYOP media war to basically put in the people's mind and local media as they cover these different, because they're going to go to every state again on this, that Trump's an insurrectionist and should be off the ballot?
Isn't that the purpose of what the left is doing here?
mike davis
Yeah, I mean, that's the political part of it, but I actually think the Democrats are doing everything they can to disqualify President Trump from the ballot.
And I think that this Denver District Court judge had every intention of doing this, but she felt the political pressure, and I think she blinked at the last minute.
So she got this case, got this opinion as far as she could.
She got as close to the edge of the cliff as she could, and then she backed off, and then she's gonna wait for the Colorado Supreme Court to reverse her on that narrow legal question of whether the 14th Amendment, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, the disqualification clause applies to a president as an officer or if it doesn't.
And if it applies, like the Colorado Supreme Court will likely hold, that they disqualify Trump, and then they use that in other states.
Right now, they're in tactical retreat in key states like Minnesota, like Colorado, like New Hampshire, because they feel the political heat, right?
They're not deciding this on different grounds because it's a primary versus a general election.
Yeah.
standing, whether the president's an officer or not.
They're gonna come back at this.
They're gonna come back at this again, especially when they see that President Trump is beating Biden like a drum on November 5th, 2024.
They impeached him twice for nonsense.
They indicted him four times for non-crimes.
They illegally gagged him.
They're trying to bankrupt his business for non-fraud.
This is legal Hail Mary.
They're in tactical retreat.
They're gonna come back.
steve bannon
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You guys have been doing an amazing job.
mike davis
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You can donate there.
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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Kash Patel, you were the key witness.
Your testimony was riveting.
The judge did not agree with that, but I want to I want to go back Why is your testimony and this is why the the J6 got to be reconstituted?
You know, your testimony that laid out the facts of what President Trump tried to do to thwart an insurrection is absolutely vital.
It was the key part, I think, of the trial.
The judge went out of her way to say she believed the J6 Commission, which I don't even think released your, or we can't find it, released your testimony versus your live testimony.
Give us your assessment.
kash patel
Yeah, Steve, the January 6 truth has finally entered the American bloodstream writ large.
Coupled with Mike Johnson's releasing of the January 6th tapes, this judge's written order will show their lies that they have been stacking up in the media for years against the January 6th, not only defendants, but also what President Trump did in the days leading up to January 6th.
And I need the War Room Posse to go out there and put out my transcript, which we just sent you the link to, Steve Bannon, from the January 6th committee.
The first guy subpoenaed, the last transcript released.
And this judge had a problem finding the evidence that I gave under oath.
Selective inclusion of evidence is unconstitutional.
This judge, a government gangster wearing a black robe, I call her the female version of Adam Schiff.
Mrs. Schiff goes to Washington, just released her memo so that she could be lauded by the government grand dunes and the radical left-wing media.
She set up the disinformation campaign on the narrative that Donald Trump committed a quote-unquote insurrection.
Even though special counsel Jack Smith has refused to charge Donald Trump with the crime of insurrection.
This judge went further than Jack Smith was even to go about with her lies.
And look, it's not about me.
It's about getting the truth out on January 6th.
And why does she go out of her way to talk about my testimony?
By the way, Steve, we also sent you the video compilation of my testimony from the Colorado courtroom.
Let's blast that out to the posse.
And for those not listening, And the War Room Posse, this is your call to America.
Call to action.
It's our job to get the January 6th truth out there.
And yes, do you want to know the one place to get it out there?
I am holding up my copy of Government Gangsters.
Do you know what Chapter 18 is entitled?
The insurrection that never was.
Do you want the whole truth about January 6th in one place?
It's right here.
Do you know what's in the back of this book?
The Capitol Police timeline, the DOD timeline, Mayor Bowser's letter where she declined the National Guard authorization from President Trump.
Why do you think Joe Biden didn't want this book out for 10 months?
Why do you think this judge selectively excluded those timelines given by the DOD, the DOJ, the Capitol Police, Bowser and Pelosi themselves, their own written words, undo this judge's entire order?
They don't want the truth on January 6th and I gave it to you guys in one place.
Blast out governmentgangsters.com right now.
Everybody at the Thanksgiving table should be spilling gravy on government gangsters and then slopping it up because that's where the truth lies, Steve.
unidentified
And this is what these people want.
steve bannon
I want to have it back on.
We're going to push out your testimony, J6.
We're going to push out all the video, everything else.
And Cash, I need you back on here on Monday.
I know you're busy, but I've got to work this out because I want to set it up.
I want to tee it up for the Thanksgiving dinner when people are in your in-laws' face about what the facts are here.
kash patel
There's one truth.
Can I just say one truth about Donald Trump's actions?
steve bannon
Yeah, sure, sure.
kash patel
Donald Trump authorized 10,000 to 20,000 National Guard days before January 6th.
If we're to believe this judge's written word, how did I get 10,000 National Troops there if he only had authority over 2,000 on January 6th, when Pelosi and Bowser finally came in with the request?
steve bannon
Cash, give us all your touch points.
So over the weekend, we're going to go to work on this big time because of the convergence of the J6 tapes and what Johnson's doing, what this trial showed, your testimony.
We're now going to go on offense.
So where do people go?
kash patel
It's one place for me, at Cash on Truth Social, at KS on Truth Social.
I'm going to put up the testimony.
I'm going to put up the video.
I'm going to put up the transcript, the link to the book, and then just help out.
It's the holiday season.
So the Cash Foundation just gave away $10,000 in holiday meals, and we're going to do more.
Go to thecashfoundation.com.
Yeah, wear the Fight With Cash merch.
Show your colors.
Tell these government gangsters that the truth matters more than anything else.
And every time a government gangster mentions my name in their lies, it is a gold medal of freedom.
I am so happy and proud to have enlisted in the Donald Trump MAGA Army of Truth, and we are just getting warmed up.
steve bannon
No, no, no.
We're going on offense now.
We've turned the guns around and now it's time to go on offense.
Cash, honored to have you on here.
Look forward to having you back, working over the weekend, having you back on Monday.
Jeff Clark, where do people go?
We got to bounce.
We're going to have you back next week because you called this from the beginning.
And there's a lot of implications here about actually using this on Biden, a report on Biden to get Biden off the ballot.
But we'll fight that fight on Monday.
Where do people go in the interim to get more information about you and your great work?
unidentified
Sure, so I'm at Jeff Clark U.S.
on Getter and Twitter and at RealJeffClark on Truth Social.
And the paper about this that anticipated the judge's ruling here is on our citizen site, CitizensRenewingAmerica, all one word dot com, Steve.
steve bannon
I think we're going to run a poll next week.
Mike Davis was saying it when he was kind of caught off at the end about is Mike Davis going to be White House Counsel and Jeff Clark AG?
Or is Jeff Clark going to be White House Counsel and Mike Davis AG?
We'll run that poll next week before Thanksgiving.
It's a good thing to talk about over the Thanksgiving table.
Clark, never change, brother.
You're the best.
A real warrior.
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