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WarRoom Battleground EP 410: Open Revolts In Ukrainian Military
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room, Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, continuing on, it's Monday, 6th November, Year of the Lord 2023.
We will be in, um, Vegas, uh, starting later tonight and tomorrow.
We're gonna do the show live there.
Carrie Lake will be our cohost and, um, definitely for the morning show.
Hopefully maybe even get her for the afternoon.
Then we're gonna be doing a live event with Carrie from five to eight.
I want to make sure everybody goes over to the live chat right now.
Grace and Mo are putting it up about where you go.
Go to Carrie Lake's site, her event in Las Vegas.
We want as many of the War Impostors there as possible.
I want to meet with you guys, may actually have a chance to interact.
Either before or afterwards.
So I want to get your feedback on everything that's going on.
So make sure they're going to be an incredible event.
We also be, the reason we're going out there, we're going to do the Showtime show, the circus.
I think somebody told me this may be their last episode of the fall season.
And we're going to, we've been on the circus, I don't know, three or four times.
Over the last years, don't agree with their politics, but really like the folks who put that show together.
So we'll be there and more information tomorrow morning about who will, I think John Heilman and Tim Miller will be doing interviews and we'll be interacting with those soon.
You know, we play a lot of clips from those guys.
Over at MSNBC, your favorite, I want to start with Dr. Sean Rowland.
The two things we try to do here in talking about sponsors is one, the patriot economy, because we're building an alternative economy to the people that you don't need to give your money to people that hate you, don't support your values.
The other is kind of the preparedness.
You kind of hit both, but the preparedness, and the preparedness is two, it's one, in the current third world war which started as unrestricted warfare and is now leading to as you can follow every day kinetic the others emergencies and like what happened in maui which you were so uh a great volunteer and trying to help the folks out there but even things like acapulco you know stuff it just comes out of nowhere um you weren't on the on the first
You were the first individual that really took kind of one of the underlying tenets of the early days of War Room, when we were War Room Pandemic, when we came off the impeachment and flipped to War Room Pandemic.
We would have Rosemary Gibson on and we would have Peter Navarro.
We had experts from over in Asia that would come on every day, people in Vietnam.
The literal nations around the South China Sea and they talked about this concept called supply chains now before that it only been something that you learned in business school when you as you broke down a business of how I'm actually going to build a business would you get into supply chains but this got to be something that there was a great awakening the fact that it became manifest.
That all this talk about taking our industrial capacity and everything we had taken overseas had a reality to it.
Because all of a sudden people, well, wow, the Chinese Communist Party essentially have 100% of generic drugs and they have 100% of active pharmaceutical ingredients.
And that's just not an economic, that's just simply an economic, that has a strategic value to it.
Because just like PPE, you can basically choke down the world if you control it.
Rosemary Gibson wrote a book and she would come on the show many times.
And you actually took action on it, but Jace Medical of what you guys do is to get us to get the audience away from being captive to the CCP and their chokehold and supply chains, but as it's come up in these emergencies come out of nowhere.
That all of a sudden, your whole life is turned upside down.
And that can happen whether it's the grid going down in Texas in the winter, what happened in Acapulco, which still has not been explained to me well enough how that happened out of nowhere.
And of course, the millions of questions we have in Maui.
So what can Jace Medical do for this audience today?
And why do they need to do it?
They've got enough stuff on their plate.
They've got enough stuff to worry about.
Why do you take worry away from it?
But why should they get on top of this and find out more about your company today?
dr shawn rowland
Yeah, Steve, you really said it better than even I could.
Really looking at this, it's a multifactorial problem.
You touched on supply chain, you touched on natural disasters, you know, all these different things.
At the end of the day, it's access to health care that we're talking about.
And at Jace Medical, one of the things that, you know, myself as a physician, I highly value empowering my patients, giving them the tools that they need, whether that's knowledge, whether that's an actual treatment.
But that empowerment is key because at the end of the day, the only one you can really rely on is yourself, especially when it's your health, it's the health of you and your family.
So what we're trying to do at Jace Medical is further that mission of empowerment.
And we do it through access to prescription medications, Which involves an encounter with a physician, so your access to a physician and to these vital medications.
You talked about the fact, and this is something that still, you know, it still surprises me.
We've been doing this for a few years now, and I come across people every day, and I guess just because I'm in it, it seems like, yay!
People are aware now, but they're still not.
They don't know what you just said, which is that 95% to 100% of the medications that we consume here in the United States, they're not produced here in the US.
The majority, the vast majority, come in one form or another from China.
People just don't know.
So whether you're talking about that kind of access through supply chain issues with overseas production, or just things like fires, or even just, you know, you're a busy professional, you're a busy mom, you're a busy dad, And it's the middle of the night.
Maybe you were able to get on to a telemedicine, you know, an urgent care visit via telemedicine, but you certainly don't have those meds on hand if you do in fact need antibiotics, for example, to treat an infection.
So packaging all this together, where what you do is you come to the website, you fill out our forms, they ask you a few basic health questions.
Your health information is reviewed by a physician.
Who then goes ahead and writes these prescriptions and sends them to our pharmacy, who packages them up and sends them to your door.
You've got them before you need them.
That's what's key here.
You keep them and you store them away.
Hopefully you never need them, but should you need them, it's something that you're going to need quickly and have access to that access right away.
And so having those on hand, the same as you have your Tylenol, your Ibuprofen, your Benadryl, why not have Antibiotics, antifungals, antivirals.
steve bannon
And you can work through, you either got the JACE package or you can work through with one of your consultants because you have doctors.
This is all 50 states.
Your licensed states, you'll deal with a state telemedicine with a state physician.
You can then work at your own unique package.
You can buy the package.
It's got certain basic things that every family needs, but then you can work through your specific, the specific needs you have just for yourself.
dr shawn rowland
Yeah, exactly.
So we've got kind of two.
There's the emergency medications that everyone should have.
Everyone should have basic antibiotics, basic antivirals, steroid creams, those kind of emergency type medications.
Everyone should have those on hand so that they've got them when they need them.
And then on the other side, you've got those medications for folks who have conditions like high blood pressure, diabetes, thyroid disorders, seizure disorders, whatever the case may be.
Where you also should have access to what we provide, which is a year's supply of whatever that medication is that you take every single day.
Have a year's supply on hand so that when you hear about things like Pharmageddon, where pharmacists are walking out of their CVS or their Rite Aid or their Walgreens because they're just overworked and understaffed, or because production gets shut down at a factory in some far-flung country that's going through a kinetic war, Uh, that you are not affected by that or, or, or, or the bankruptcies or the bankruptcies of these, of these chains, where all of a sudden they're shutting, they announced I'm shutting down 500 stores.
steve bannon
It happens to be the store that you've gone to for your entire life or in 20 years, the farmer getting things real.
I don't want to bury the lead.
You said something quite powerful that.
At the end of the day, your health and your family's health is not the government's responsibility.
It's your own responsibility.
When these things come up, people should understand, and it should live by the mantra, nobody's there to help me.
I've got to make sure I'm prepared and do it myself.
If we get that mentality into the posse, which I know is the basic mentality they have, but if actually we have people taking action, You will be the ones that will be prepared and will be able to help your community, not just simply worry about yourself.
Why everybody else is running around with like chickens with their head calls because people panic.
And that's what we're trying to avoid.
We're trying to avoid panic by thinking this thing through.
Give me, give me a minute on that and why that's so important.
dr shawn rowland
Yeah.
Well, you know, you, I've seen it, I've seen it firsthand when, when, and it doesn't, it doesn't take a lot.
We talked about all these multifactorial things, any one of them, is enough to just tip the balance and cause a collapse.
Most recently you touched on the fires in Maui where I went over to assist there and saw this firsthand.
There was not a government official in sight anywhere in the outlying affected communities on West Maui for days and days and days.
People didn't have access to power, to communication, to water, food, and of course, any health needs that they had.
So when we talk about that you can only rely on yourself, you can only rely on your immediate circle, your tribe, it's so true.
But I think that can be overwhelming for people because there's so much that we depend on, you know, being able to run down to the grocery store, whatever it is.
All these different aspects of our life.
And so it can be overwhelming to say, well, you know, you're on your own.
Good luck.
What are you going to do?
This is something that we tried to make as easy as, and as convenient as possible.
There's a lot more that you need to get ready when it talk, when we talk about preparation, but for your medical needs, this is about as easy as, as it gets to be able to go on in the comfort of your, wherever you are, do it from your phone, do it from your computer.
It takes five, 10 minutes at the most.
steve bannon
And you get one year's supply.
Think about that.
You get one year's supply of what you need.
Doctor, where do they go and how do they get information once they go on the site?
Who can they talk to?
dr shawn rowland
Yeah, you know, it's easy.
It's JASEMedical.com.
That's where you can actually do the whole encounter, do the whole process.
But there's also a lot of resources on there as far as answering questions.
We've got a lot of resources on our newsletter and our blog.
And that's all accessed through the website, JaceMedical.com.
We're out here telling people things are headed in the wrong direction.
And so now is the time.
Today's the time to get prepared.
steve bannon
Yeah, you see the turbulence.
You need to make sure the turbulence doesn't rattle your family and your own personal life.
Dr. Sean, thank you.
Thank you for building the company like you did.
And thank you for coming on and explaining it.
Really appreciate it.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
I want to play a cold open that may kind of shock you for our Rome, the head of international in Rome, Ben Harnable.
Let's go ahead and play and I'll bring Ben on.
Thank you so much.
unidentified
Before you go, if you want to share, what keeps you going?
Do you ever feel defeated?
I have a lot of power.
volodymyr zelenskyy
But even feeling strong and have a lot of energy, it doesn't mean that we want to fight all our life, because the price is high, like I said, because the war takes the best of us, the best heroes, the best men, women, children.
unidentified
That's it.
But we are not ready to give our freedom to this Terrorist Putin.
That's it.
That's why we are fighting.
That's it.
President Zelensky, thank you so much for your time this morning.
steve bannon
Okay, yesterday on Meat Depressed, I don't want to say get a room, I got too much respect for Christian Walker, but wow, an interview that was so funny, we had to play the end of it.
Strong like bull.
This guy, and then he's talking about the best of us have been killed.
Zelensky, I noticed you or any of your oligarchs have been stealing like crazy.
And don't take it from me, take it from Simon Schuster who wrote the great cover story for Time Magazine.
In fact, why don't you relate that cover story, Ben, as I ask you for your observations on what Gateway Pundit is saying, the media blitz, the PR blitz of Zelensky because he knows it's all coming to an end here.
ben harnwell
Good evening, Steve.
Well, the two takeaways from the Time article which we covered last week are Zelensky says, sorry, one of his key aides says that he's deluded on the state of the war and on the direction the war is going in.
Those are the actual words, deluded.
And they said it's impossible to try and get through to him.
on the reality on the ground.
The other great takeaway from that article is one of his, another one of his aides, again speaking off the record, explicitly asks the journalist Simon Schuster to turn his recording device off and he says that when Schuster put to him that that corruption was being sorted out now under Under Zelensky, he basically says, are you kidding?
They're stealing here like there's no tomorrow.
That's the reality.
And compliments, really, respect to Time magazine that they kept both of those quotations in that article.
I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall in that editorial conference when discussing to keep that in or not.
I respect them for doing that.
That's a very good indication, I think now, on really what's happening there in Ukraine, how things are starting to fall to pieces.
unidentified
There is another art, there is another art, you know, we didn't... But hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
Before we go to another article, I got to ask you, we've had Erin Burnett that was over there a couple of months ago and she did the Zelinsky and she was given the doe-eye and, you know, it was, we were teasing her like, it was like, you know, and they actually, Max Evans did a video about, you know, falling in love.
Welker just took her to meet the press.
She's one of the best in DC.
We know her quite well.
She's a very smart, very analytical, but this was a fawning interview yesterday.
What is it about The mainstream media.
Are they panicked now that they've been part of this and that's why they continue to prop it up?
Because we're seeing stories come out that the biggest fight he's got is not between Zelensky's oligarchs and the Russians in Eastern Donbass.
It's between Zelensky and his own generals.
But why is the American media?
Why is the American media?
I mean, that was a shockingly fawning interview.
What is the American media feel?
They got to prop this guy up when even the European papers and now even the rumblings in Ukraine where you have his field commanders.
Look, I have not put up yet with the Daily Express because you and I talk about Daily Express.
has come out and I think they're pretty good paper.
Daily Express came out and said, in fact, they're very good paper.
They cover the Brexit and other things very, very well.
They came out and said, hey, there's actually open revolt among field commanders about not taking orders and there's many mutinies.
But even the New York Times is reporting his senior generals are saying, listen, what this guy's saying is not true.
This thing is at best a stalemate.
ben harnwell
Why is it that the American media, particularly the main organs of the American media, Well, just to quickly hit the Daily Express thing right, it does appear from other sources that that article was more or less correctly sourced.
Mutiny would be too strong a word, but in any military structure within wartime context, if generals don't want to implement the directions that are coming down to them, that's pretty bad, especially when the war is going badly and the resources are drying up.
The reason I was hesitant and I'm glad, you know, I think with hindsight I'm still glad we didn't hit that article on the show because if you go on the Daily Express website directly parallel to that article was another article equally authoritatively written saying that Putin was dead and had been dead for ages, for days.
So it's, you know, in the fog of war it's difficult to know what sources to go on, though you're right that I think that article on the situation with...
With discipline in the military seems more or less to be true.
I think in answer to your broader question about the American military, the American press, excuse me, they're trying to do a number of things at the same time.
It's like a complicated dance, right?
On the one hand, they're trying to protect Biden and his administration from the inevitable fallout that there's going to be over the next 12 months when the Ukraine side of the war does implode.
So they're trying to Extricate Biden from responsibility from that.
And at the same time, remove America's sense of being invested in the Ukraine war, which is a product of the US media, in order to pivot towards Israel.
So there's that sort of delicate Game going on at the same time.
Along with the fact, you know, astute watchers of your own getter feed at Steve Bannon will notice that every day polls are coming out now.
Within the democratic media saying that Biden's time is pretty much up.
So they're trying to save the Biden administration from the wrath of the American public, whilst at the same time trying to install a new nominee in.
and all these things are going on. So I think the delicate position that the US media is trying to do is to try to distract attention from what's going on on the ground, try and remove the blame where it needs to be so that the electoral follow-through won't go on, and try and get as much money shifted, if it's from Ukraine, well so be it, to the effort in Israel in the Gaza Strip.
So those are the three things, and it's not easy for the US media, having been so focused over the last 18 months on, you know, basically Ukraine was the last vanguard of democracy in Eastern Europe.
And if Ukraine falls and the Russian hordes are going to sweep in, to move from that message, which has been constant and uniform across the media to a very different message is a delicate thing to undergo in such a short amount of time.
steve bannon
Zelensky understood that Trump is ascendant.
He finally got the joke on that.
I bet you that's a cold reality in Kiev.
Now, walk me through.
He sat on NBC.
We didn't have time to play the whole clip.
He would need 24 minutes, I think it was, with Trump 101 to explain to him what happened.
He's invited Trump.
Remember, Zelensky on the first day, on October 7th I think was the attack in Israel, on Monday the 9th he said, hey I want to come to Israel so we can show a united front.
That was very smartly turned down by the Israelis.
Now he's seen the current polling because that's what this is about.
He's invited President Trump to Kiev to basically get schooled by him on what the realities are of this war.
Take it from there, Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell
Steve, well, it was very patronising, really, I think, of President Zelensky, because he basically said, look, we all know Trump has said on a number of occasions, if he's back in the White House, he'll be able to end this war and bring about a ceasefire within 24 hours.
And Trump has also said he doesn't want to sort of give too much away, because that would eliminate and weaken his negotiating position.
But he said on a number of occasions he's confident he could bring that about and of course we might reasonably speculate what the sort of strategy he'd bring about.
That was put to him then, that was put to Zelensky in the Meet the Press interview yesterday and he sort of patronised Trump saying you know that you need to be on the ground in order to understand What the details are, and you can only do that by being on the ground, as if President Trump doesn't understand what's going on.
And he said, you know, all he needs, with reference to the 24 hours, Trump said he would need to bring about the ceasefire.
Zelensky, and I guess he thinks he's being smart with a play on words, says, you know, all he needs is 24 minutes.
Yes, 24 minutes, not more to explain to President Trump that he can't manage this war.
Now, I actually, Steve, when I saw that, when I saw that Zelensky had invited Trump to Ukraine, I thought that's a smart move, actually, because Zelensky doesn't have any cards left to play.
He realises that this war, I'm 99% sure this war isn't going to last through until November of next year.
But should it do so, and Trump returns to the White House, then Ukraine's hopes, Zelensky's hopes specifically, will be finished.
So you can understand why, in desperation, because everyone else is turning their back on him, that he thinks, you know what I'll do is that I'll invite Trump to Ukraine and you never know, perhaps I'll be able to convince him.
So I actually thought it was a smart manoeuvre on behalf of Zelensky.
I wasn't able to think that for very long because within a couple of hours Trump then released his own statement saying he's not going to be going to Ukraine, and it was a slap down.
I'll note, if I may Steve, the exact words that Trump used in his statement.
He said this, he said the Biden administration is currently dealing with him, and I would not want to create a conflict of interest.
steve bannon
Hold it, this goes from when Zelensky was the hottest guy in the world and everybody wanted a picture with him, everybody wanted to rub up on him and all the conservative media, from Fox News to You Know Who, all these guys were sitting there saying he's a hero, he's Churchill, loving up on him.
To now, Trump, and everybody understands what we knew from the beginning, he's Biden's problem.
He's the tar baby that stuck to Biden.
No need for Trump to intervene here.
I don't believe that this war is going to last, at least in its current state, until next November, because he's going to get choked down on money.
I tell you what, Ben, hang around.
We've got a lot more things to go through with you.
Um, but Ukraine as the central, one of the things that Zelensky's whining about and got the PR about is that how this issue in Israel has taken it off the front page.
Remember, never look at the shiny toys.
Even the Israel situation is secondary to the financial crisis here in the United States of our deficits and debt that are burying us every second of every day, inextricably linked with the invasion on the Southern border.
There is a third world war going on.
It's active.
It's already kinetic and you can tell by the crime, the fentanyl, the chemical weapons attack.
That's a kinetic attack on the United States.
We're in the third world war.
And it's as we showed the five o'clock hour, it's coming up from the southern border.
Okay, we're getting drowned down more in Ukraine of where your money went and how we're gonna get it back next in the war War room battleground with Stephen K Bannon Okay, we're gonna get Ben up up in a second, but I want to make sure that we've got So here's the thing.
The biggest fight Zelensky's got right now is to get money, and particularly get money from the United States of America.
There was a tweet that came out over the weekend.
I think it was from Meeks, who I think is the minority member on armed services or foreign affairs.
They were at the White House in a national security briefing.
House members and I take it Mike Johnson the speaker was with him and he was saying hey the national classified briefing on Ukraine and Israel was going on but he said Johnson broke out an all kind of MAGA think right it shocked him and Hakeem Jeffries and others that That you know Mike Johnson is thinking it through just like just like just like we would just like we would think through so It is Incredibly important
for us over these next weeks to very much focus on the Ukraine spending.
This bill's coming up.
Mike Johnson said that he wants to attach border security to it.
That may be a play for him to make sure that there are no Democrat votes because the Democrats are certainly not going to vote for anything that has border security.
What we're recommending to Speaker Johnson, you've got to take a hard line.
And he's been a little wobbly on this, at least publicly, about money for Ukraine.
We cannot send one more penny to Ukraine.
In fact, what we should do immediately is form a House investigation that could lead to a tribunal to find out how we got so involved, who's responsible for it, and where the money went.
We know, and particularly we know people in the region, they're laughing at us right now because these guys are buying DACAs all over the place on the Caspian Sea and other places down in Georgia and other locations besides Monaco and in Southern France.
So this is a vitally important thing.
Remember, we have the principle on the debt that we add is never going to be paid off.
We're never going to pay off one penny of the principal of the almost $34 trillion that we have right now.
And we keep seeing increases every day in what the projected deficits are going to be.
We're already calculating that we're going to spend over $1 trillion this fiscal year in interest alone, $1 trillion.
An interest and it's only going to get higher going forward.
In fact, E.J.
Antonio said it could be 1.2 trillion dollars.
So we must start to get a grip on this.
And the beginning place to get a grip on it is this foreign adventurism that the neocons and the lobbies and the operatives in the illegitimate Biden regime have gotten us into.
The one thing to think about is that the consensus that they've had in Ukraine has come apart.
The Ukrainian, Ben, I want to bring you in.
There's a couple of articles But, and we'll put them up there.
They're in the Guardian and other places that's saying that, you know, on one hand, the guys loyal to Zelensky are criticizing the West for war fatigue, that you guys, besides all our promises, you guys should have known this was going to be a multi-year war.
It's the fault of the English and the French and the Italians and particularly the Americans that the West has got war fatigue.
On the other hand, You have senior military leaders, generals, that are basically saying, hey, we can't fool people anymore.
This campaign against the Russians is basically dead.
The war is a quagmire and a stalemate, and we've got to be truthful with people.
And Zelensky is on the warpath.
He is on a media jihad right now.
You saw part of that on NBC News with Welker yesterday morning.
So make all this make sense to me, sir.
ben harnwell
Well, I'll do my best, Steve.
Basically, my interpretation of this is as the Ukraine's defence, as its initiative in the wars, the counter-offensive, everything taken globally, as that starts to implode, The hierarchy, the authority is starting to break down.
That's my only speculation as to what's going on here.
That is the end game.
And you said before the break that you doubt that this war is going to go on until November of next year.
I very much doubt that as well.
I think we're really in the end stages here.
That's absolutely clear.
And of course, we will know fundamentally what happens according to what happens next week in the House.
Regarding the spending bill, I guess on the 16th or 17th of November.
With regards to the story that you just mentioned, it is interesting.
It's not anybody who's now breaking ranks and publicly disputing Zelensky's take on this war.
It's the commander in chief.
Now, in the United States, famously, the president of the United States is the CNC.
That's not the case in Ukraine, that the commander in chief is actually a military general.
It's Valery Zolotny.
And he said that basically that there's a stalemate.
He said it's just like in the First World War.
This was in an interview he released to The Economist a couple of days ago.
And he said there will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough.
Now, that's a pretty astonishing thing to say when, as you say, Zelensky's doing his media television.
And the tour of capitals trying to rally support, trying to rally desperately just a bit more cash to keep the war going, and for his own commander-in-chief to say that this is a stalemate and it's digging in.
Like, we know famously that the First World War went on for four years, you know, and after the opening months there were just trenches where it was like a charnel house for very little movement in terms of territory.
That's the last thing now, I think, that the West can afford.
given the bankrupt state of most of our economies anyway.
It's the last thing we can afford to replicate the First World War.
So it's an interesting metaphor for the scene that the Ukrainian commander-in-chief had to say.
The thing is what happened after that was that he was slapped down by Zelensky's press spokeswoman and she said that those weren't words that should, I don't know the reasons, and that isn't sort of language that I would use.
Interestingly, Dmitry Peskov also said that he had somewhat, inevitably, he didn't see the wars being stalemate either.
Obviously, the Russian side is that they're going to be winning this, and quite soon. And in terms of the rest of the chaos, Steve, going on over there in Ukraine, Zelensky on Friday replaced, because we were just talking about the commander in chief, he replaced actually the head of the special forces without any public statement.
In fact, General Horenko, who had only been in that job since July of last year, said he only found out that he'd been removed.
from statements in the media. So things seem to be pretty chaotic. I would add as a rider onto that, Steve, I wouldn't necessarily add too much on to the fact that Zelensky every couple of months is moving generals and sacking defence ministers and what have you, because in fairness, to give a complete picture, these sort of things are taking place on the Western side as well, though with less frequency.
Putin himself is not averse to sacking generals and moving them sideways if he doesn't think war is going on.
So perhaps that's probably just an illustration, Steve, that both sides are somewhat dissatisfied with the way the war's been progressing.
steve bannon
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People come to because the audience is expanding every day.
Ben Harnwell, who is in one of the senior staffers in the European Parliament and was also in the British staffer with the British Parliament, has been I've worked with Ben For many, many years.
And Ben runs our international bureau out of Rome.
He's been covering, and Ben I just calculated, I think we're a hundred days or so out, just over a hundred days out from the second year of this war.
You have been dead spot on in Pesobic.
It's just been eerie how dead spot on you've been about virtually everything about this war.
Ben's knowledge of what's been happening in the European capitals and what's reality versus Kant is going to be very very important to this audience over the next couple weeks as you get your app and you get ready to be put on the pressure campaign because the Ukraine funding and we're going to unmask everybody.
So we're trying to set the predicate of what the reality is.
We've told you what the reality is in this war from the beginning.
Now you're seeing in Ukraine a massive fight Between certain members of the military, the high command and Zelensky.
And Zelensky is getting more and more frantic as he tries to get money out of countries.
And he understands that the whole scam ends if the United States does not come in huge for him.
He needs approximately $80 billion a year.
He's already taken down $120 billion roughly.
Because, you know, Fox doesn't discount the military.
You've got to count, we're underwriting the entire government, okay?
I think to the tune of five billion dollars a month, but he needs, basically he's going to get 60 to 80 billion this time.
They need this money like mother's milk.
The defense contractors, remember Ben, they had a piece, I believe it was in the Hill of Politico a couple weeks ago, that the Biden regime internally We're thinking through and it pivoted kind of a new pitch.
It's not about democracy.
It's not about destroying the Russians.
It's not about freedom.
It's not about not letting dictators take over any of this nonsense they've spun.
It's about jobs.
We can provide great high value added jobs in the munitions factories.
And they spread all those over, you know, so many congressional districts.
This is actually what they come up with, that they're going to they're going to pitch it on on jobs.
Now we know From a piece that was in Politico the other day, and I went nuts on Getter and put it up.
They're actually thinking of making policy changes.
Specific policy changes to the asylum laws, which they basically eviscerated to let the invasion come in, in order to get the Ukraine money.
Now why is that?
Number one, the money laundering operation that is Ukraine, right?
For the money laundering, the child trafficking, the bio labs, who knows?
As we said, it's a scab that's got to be picked and let the pus run out.
And we'll get to see it all.
But they are so desperate.
The thing that Biden and his regime and his affiliates would never do is change one iota of the laws they broke to allow the invasion to come on and now they're saying they're actually prepared to do it because they need the Ukraine money so much.
You're going to see a firestorm on Capitol Hill.
on a nation that just had a $2 trillion deficit, $34 trillion in debt, can't pay anything back, $1 trillion in interest expense, cuts have got to come everywhere. They're actually talking about entitlements now, invasion on the southern border, and Ukraine's still going to be held up as the end all and be all because we have to do it. We have to do it. We have to do it. We have to do it at this level. Never talking about, hey, you put 120 in.
If you put this 80 in, you're 200.
What's next year?
In the year after?
In the year after?
Really, what's the objectives here?
What's the plan here?
What's the end game?
What's the off-ramp?
No discussion of that whatsoever.
Ben, you're going to be absolutely central to that.
And I want to tell people, would sit there and go, well, Steve, after listening to this, this can't be this big a deal.
I mean, you've got so many other things.
You've got Israel, you've got Taiwan, you've got the southern border.
Plus, we can't even figure out how to finance the basics that we have.
How could this be such a Such a big deal, but Ben you've watched this.
I mean sometimes you've actually come to me and go I can't believe the amount of money you guys are putting in.
As you said, it's the sociopathic overlords that run us from Davos and Brussels, the City of London, Wall Street, into the imperial capital.
Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell
Steve, talking about European capitals, we covered on the show, it might have been Saturday, the accidental revelations by Georgia Maloney of what she really thinks when she thought she was talking to the president of the African Union and she said that basically everyone's looking for a way out now and there's a lot of fatigue.
Well, Andre Yermak, we've mentioned him several times, you know, over the course of the war, he's Zelensky's chief of staff. He responds to what Maloney said and he said even if there are people who feel this fatigue I'm sure they don't want to wake up in a world tomorrow where there will be less freedom and less security and the consequences for this last for decades.
And he suggested Maloney push up on her history.
So I thought of you, which you mentioned from time to time, because it's pretty much Zelensky's refrain as well that people who aren't all in anymore on supporting Ukraine somehow have a deficit in their understanding of history.
Interestingly, I just want to say this on this point.
I studied the Italian press so much when that fake interview broke and almost 100% of the press coverage was what's going on in Melania's office where they allow her to speak to someone at this level and speak this candidly.
And in fact, the ambassador who arranged the call since resigned.
Nobody, Steve, I never saw a single article in the Italian press that confronted what she was actually saying on its net and saying, well, you know, is this true that there's fatigue?
And that everyone's looking for a way out.
Doesn't that affect where we are in supporting this war?
It wasn't referred to at all.
You've got to go here to Zelensky's chief of staff for the first actual response to the substance of what she said.
Now, of course, naturally, he's going to take a very different interpretation to the substance of what she said than we would.
But it's the first time I've seen that.
Sorry Steve, I'll close with this.
I've said this on the show so many times before.
This statement on behalf of Ukraine, which Yermak, the Chief of Staff says, Zelensky says it, Biden says it, they say it all the time, it's never challenged.
Is it true that if Ukraine falls to the Russians, the Russians are going to come in and flood the rest of Europe?
Is it true that Ukraine is the last bulwark, and that's why it needs to be defended by the West?
Because if it's not true, there simply is no more justification for our Western support.
steve bannon
It's totally phony.
Those militaries should be strong enough.
I mean, the Russian military is not the Russian military of 1944 and 1945, trust me.
I mean, they've barely hung on in Ukraine in their offensive capability.
Real quickly, just give me a minute.
I want to go back.
You made a brilliant point.
What did Maloney actually say when she thought she was talking to the head of the African Union versus the whole thing is about the screw-up in her office and how unprofessional to basically get prank called?
What did she actually tell him?
ben harnwell
She said that everyone understands That there needs to be a way out and that there's a lot of fatigue now for the war.
Those are the two headline comments.
Everyone understands that there needs to be a way out now.
steve bannon
This was Donald Trump's, over a year ago, this is what Donald Trump said.
He could get a deal done here in 24 hours and everybody would be satisfied.
It wouldn't be perfect, but people would be satisfied.
And there'd be, I don't know, 25 or 30,000 less dead Ukrainians.
All for nothing.
Ben Harnwell, you're going to become a big player in US politics over here as we get people to the ramparts in the next couple of weeks.
How do people follow you?
ben harnwell
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steve bannon
He upsets me.
Go ahead.
ben harnwell
There is in your to send, to share box, your inbox, there is a brilliant post, even if I don't mind saying so myself, waiting for you to hit that share button.
steve bannon
I'll send it and repost it.
Now I have 5.2 million, but I don't nearly have the engagement of Harnwell's core over at Harnwell.
Ben Harnwell, thank you so much.
Very perceptive as usual.
Ukraine, ladies and gentlemen, is absolutely central to making sure we don't fall into a CR and an omnibus.
We've got to take Ukraine down to zero.
That's one of the big fights we've got.
One of the reasons we have such turbulence is that our sociopathic overlords, as Ben so gently calls them, has gotten us into all these conflicts over Hell's Half Acre.
Now they're all metastasizing the kinetic wars.
That means turbulence.
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Look at your government bond portfolio that your advisor put you into and said, hey, they're always money good.
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We just had another bank collapse over the weekend because of the hole blown in their balance sheet.
Because of what?
Government securities that are not at par value.
Why?
Interest rates have risen and the interest rates on those notes are low from the old days.
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