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Episode 3135: Elite Focusing Attention On The New Forever War
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joe scarborough
It is interesting, talking about Mitch McConnell, that you really do have three parties in Washington, D.C.
You've got the House Republicans, We've got the Senate Republicans who are more institutionalists, whether people like their policies or not.
And then you have the Democrats.
And with Mitch McConnell and, you know, John Thune and Barrasso and the leadership there, there are two other institutionalists who, again, you know, John Roberts is like the ultimate institutionalist.
People may not like on the left how he rules, but institutions come first for the most part.
And that's the thing about the Senate.
Republicans, just like radicals of the late 1960s and radicals in revolutionary France, they want to tear down every institution.
They want to tear down the military.
They want to tear down the FBI.
They want to tear down American academia, tear down the college campuses.
I mean, they've done everything but, like, go into college professors, I mean, president's offices and takeover offices at Columbia.
They are the anti-institutionalists.
They are the radicals that are the antithesis of what Edmund Burke and Russell Kirk said conservatives should be.
But we're actually, we're going to be looking at Republicans in the Senate now, regardless of whether we agree with everything they said, as institutionalists that have to hold this thing together.
unidentified
And if they don't, God knows where we'll end up.
I mean, we're talking about a speaker that has the power to try, and I agree with Amanda and want to throw it back to her, that he can disrupt just the process of necessary legislation next year just by how he conducts business as the speaker.
And I wonder if we are going to see Biden-Trump We can answer that question right now.
joe scarborough
He already has.
unidentified
We need to raise that.
We need to let America know that January 6th won't be outside this time if this guy... Why do you think Trump fought Emmer so much?
joe scarborough
Because he didn't go along with the lie, the conspiracy.
So yeah, I mean, these things are decided in the House, Willie.
So Donald Trump has his guy.
He has the anti-democracy guy sitting in the Speaker's chair.
I mean, I saw some press conferences, a clip where a reporter asked a question, everybody started screaming.
I actually, I almost said a word that I've said on this air a couple of times.
I'll just say, what fools.
Who do they think we are?
Who do they think Americans are?
Do they think Americans are that stupid?
They're all election deniers up there.
And they're mad at the press for bringing up the fact that Donald Trump now has his tool to move us towards an autocratic state Where democratic elections don't matter.
He's already done it!
He led the charge to overturn a presidential election.
So yeah, we know what's gonna happen, and we know all of these presidential elections end up in the House.
Donald Trump's thinking, I got this.
willie geist
An election denialism has been so normalized and accepted as a part of our Republican culture, Trumpist culture, we can say, that when a simple question is asked, based on your history, new Mr. Speaker, Do you believe Joe Biden's the President of the United States?
The reporter is literally booed by members of Congress.
One woman standing next to Johnson told her to shut up.
Shouting at the reporter, boo.
You know, you're living in the past.
All the rest of it.
joe scarborough
No, we're actually worried about the future.
I mean, these people try to overturn American democracy.
We saw it.
He led the effort in the House.
And then they're shocked.
Why are they shocked?
Because they don't want to talk about it because they're already planning.
They've already got this figured out.
They've got Donald Trump's guy in there, and they're going to steal this election in the House of Representatives with this speaker who led.
You say, shut up.
We're not going to shut up.
You shut up.
If you want to overturn American democracy, we don't want to hear what you have to say.
So keep it to yourself.
But we'll never shut up.
Because these are the people that tried to end the American experiment because their guy didn't win.
Because a failed reality TV show host didn't win.
So those are the stakes.
That's really what's happened.
Donald Trump has found the guy that will gladly pave the way to an autocracy where democratic elections don't matter.
willie geist
And so I think, John, now, as we all know, this election's going to be close either way, if it's Trump against Joe Biden.
It's going to be slim margins again in Arizona and Michigan and Georgia and all those places.
And we're going to see a replay.
jonathan lemire
Matt Gaetz, who led the coup against Kevin McCarthy, was quoted this week saying, this whole process, he was asked about what a messy thing it's been for all of us.
unidentified
He said, it wasn't messy.
I'm paraphrasing.
He's like, this was a success because we have a better MAGA representative in there now.
joe scarborough
He has said it out loud.
jonathan lemire
That was the plan, to get someone in there who, if this comes out of a close election, as they all seem to be, if it's a matter of a few thousand votes here or there, and the House plays a role, Donald Trump has his guy in place.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
joe scarborough
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamb.
steve bannon
It's Saturday, 28 October in the year of our Lord 2023.
You've seen the meltdown all around.
We're in the first couple of days of it.
They tell us to shut up.
We have nothing to say.
Actually, we're at the center of power now.
We have our hands on the levers of power.
That's what they hate.
An individual with a biblical worldview that stands exactly juxtaposed to the godless, atheistic demons that run the imperial capital.
It's packed today, so I'm going to have to get through it.
And we're going to do it.
We got a lot of guests, a lot of things to talk about, some news we haven't been able to get into while we've been doing this fight that's so intense.
But I want to start.
I've got Joe Allen and Ben Harnwell.
So I want to start with Ben.
Ben, you've been quite an observer from your position in Rome on American politics and particularly the populist nationalist uprising, not just through Europe, but Central America, Latin America, the rest of the world.
Your thoughts, sir?
ben harnwell
Well, responding directly to that cold open MSNBC, Morning Meeker, I thought it was really astonishing that they're going to make the claim here about the damaging of the institutions.
These people, nothing damages the institutions more in the eyes of the American people.
And I say this as a non-American who doesn't live in the United States.
Nothing damages the institutions more than the ingrained idea, Steve, that change is no longer possible within the system.
End of story.
These people, if you look at when Donald Trump was president, They blocked his agenda for two years with made-up pre-texted impeachments over a perfect phone call.
Two years they wasted to block.
I've never seen in my lifetime any president have such a popular, direct, personal mandate as any president that Donald Trump had to build a wall.
And Congress blocked him, right?
Many people saw that election in 2016 as the last possibility of changing a corrupt, autistically deaf system from within, right?
These people blocked it.
It's the Uniparty, they're the neocons, it's irrespective of party affiliation.
And to hear them on MSNBC just now talking about damaging the institutions and institutions, I mean, the hypocrisy is breathtaking.
But I'll just repeat that point.
Nothing damages the institutions more than the ingrained idea that change is no longer possible within the system.
And that is why, of course, they're absolutely terrified of MAGA and the leadership that MAGA throws up, both in Congress and for the White House.
Because here we see leaders who don't respond to the system.
Their power base isn't on it being Buckingham's turn.
And as it has always been the case for decades, these are people with direct, look at Matt Gaetz in Florida, look at Donald Trump, these are people with direct personal mandates to affect change.
And that terrifies these people, because their whole grift, their lifelong grift, is bilging the system for as many dollars as they can get.
unidentified
I close that point, because I know you do have some international news to go through to, but funny enough... Hang on, hold it for one second.
steve bannon
I want to get to that in a minute, because we've got to get into the Ukraine situation and all of it, but just put a pin in there for one minute.
I want to bring in Joe Allen, because Joe, the biggest single meltdown That hit him originally was that Mike Johnson, when they asked him questions about what is his belief in all the lobbies, everybody's calling, and Hannity does an interview, he said, just read the Holy Bible.
My worldview is biblical.
And that has triggered the elites that run the imperial capital like I've never seen.
I mean, this is almost as bad is when Trump arrived on the situation.
Almost as bad.
But they're in complete meltdown.
What do you make of that?
You cover all things transhumanism for us.
Why are they so... And you also have a master's degree in theology from the same place that Dr. Martin Luther King got his PhD.
Why does someone having a biblical worldview so shock the establishment and the established order to its core?
joe allen
Steve, the established order rests on a basically atheistic or naturalistic point of view, and has for a long time.
Elites have long since abandoned anything like a traditionalist point of view in the West, outside of a narrow few who still hold on to it.
And it gets worse.
As I look around, I see politicians oftentimes invoke God, probably cynically, in order to push a political agenda.
So you have both.
You have both the abandonment of traditional Christianity And then among a large proportion, I don't pretend to know anyone's heart, but among a large proportion, a sort of cynical invocation of God in order to push politics.
I think that the only way forward for the human race, and certainly for us as a nation, as people, is to return to the ancient, to return to traditionalist values that have been with us for eons.
But the only way out is through, and I suspect, Steve, that as we move closer and closer to a point
In which science explains more and more about the universe, in which technology enables control of more and more of the universe, that something like an antichrist, something like an entity that is in place of Christ will be the central focus of our civilization, if I think it's arguable that it is already.
steve bannon
I want to start, you're going to do a book tour on this magnificent book, Dark Aeon.
Walk people through, I want to take a couple minutes on this side, I'll bring you back on the other.
Walk us through where you're going to go, how can they get access, particularly now that the two world views are going to be in actual, in direct combat.
joe allen
That's the overriding theme, the idea that we are in the midst of the spiritual conflict of not just our lifetimes, but perhaps the entire history of the human race.
It begins in Indianapolis, Indiana.
That is November 5th at LifePoint Church, Northwest Indianapolis.
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Uh, then, uh, Dallas, Texas, November the 19th, the next day.
Uh, and then, uh, the next confirmed date, there'll be many in between, I hope, December 2nd, Los Angeles, American Freedom Alliance.
steve bannon
Hang on one second, Joe.
We got, uh, Ben Harnwall and Joe to kick it off.
Short commercial break.
We're gonna be back in the warm in just a moment.
unidentified
War Room.
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We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the C.C.P.!
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steve bannon
Joe, I want to make sure we don't lose this thread because, as I said, this is the underlying, most important thing that's out there.
It's all kind of articles popped the last couple of days as one of the things I've been focused on, that the elites look at artificial intelligence or the singularity not as a benefit to mankind.
They are driving this to the singularity and the central point is that they want eternal life.
they're godless demons and so they don't believe in the eternal life that is promised as a basis of the Judeo-Christian West, particularly the Christian faith. But they're trying to do it in some sort of either silicon or digitally or whatever, there's a bunch of articles. I want to make sure that while you're on the road we keep you there. But there's nothing that could highlight the spiritual warfare that Joe outlines
in Dark Aeon about this thing of the singularity and transhumanism than the fight you've just seen on Capitol Hill and what will go forward in the reaction to that.
They hate, I think, Mike Johnson, although he's a very nice guy and a humble guy, behind the scenes they hate Mike Johnson as much, maybe even more than they hate Trump.
And here's why.
Mike Johnson is very upfront about his lived Christianity.
And I'm telling you, these demons, they're losing it in a way I've never seen it before.
It's going to be quite interesting going forward.
Joe, any closing thoughts?
And we wish you a lot of luck on the tour.
We'll be checking on every day.
Hopefully have you on the show a bunch and then have you in when you get back to the imperial capital.
joe allen
Yes, Steve, the idea of the singularity is a sort of replica of the traditional Christian religious concept of what the universe is moving towards.
The idea that there will be a return of Christ, the idea that this flawed world will be swept away and something new will come.
The singularity, just really quickly, when I wrote Dark Aeon, the second chapter is dedicated to Ray Kurzweil and the entire concept of the singularity.
I kind of worried That perhaps this notion was falling out of favor in place of things like effective accelerationism, people like Marc Andreessen.
Just in the last week, you've got guys like Shane Legg, the guy who coined artificial general intelligence, Google's deep mind.
Talking about how his view of technology is in fact shaped by Kurzweil's view of the singularity and he believes artificial general intelligence is coming within the next five years.
We've seen the same from Elon Musk, we've seen the same from Greg Brockman of OpenAI, on and on and on.
This singularitarian religion has gripped Silicon Valley.
They see Silicon Valley in a sense as being the new Jerusalem.
That is the theme of this entire tour.
It begins in Indianapolis with a discussion of digital immortality and the desire to live forever, and it goes from there.
So I hope that any of the War Room Posse who are in those areas, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Nashville, Tennessee, Kansas City, Missouri, Dallas, Texas, Los Angeles, California, and Tulare, California.
Check my site, joebot.xyz.
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All the dates are up, all the addresses.
And then, of course, social media, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z.
I hope to see you there.
I would love to answer your hardest questions.
steve bannon
Joe, look forward to it.
Look forward to the updates.
Look forward to having you back on here as news breaks.
Thank you, brother.
joe allen
Thank you very much, Steve.
God bless.
steve bannon
Ben Harnwell from Rome.
starting his pilgrimage across America to spread the word of dark aeon.
Couldn't it be more timely? Ben Harnwell from Rome.
First of all Ben, you're in the heart of the Catholic Church, maybe not in the heart of the traditional Catholic Church but the heart of the Catholic Church and of course one of the great spiritual centers and power centers in mankind's history.
What's your take on this meltdown they've had because Mike Johnson is a Christian that really lives his faith?
ben harnwell
Yeah, well, what I'd like to do before answering that is to come and respond to what you and Joe were just saying.
There is another, you mentioned the link between the outrage against MAGA Mike Johnson and this quest towards transhumanism.
I'd like to propose another similarity.
The Greeks have the word hubris, whereas Catholics tend to talk as one of the seven deadly sins as pride.
It's the same thing, but hubris is really taking pride and excessive pride, mixing it with arrogance, and fundamentally adding to that the challenge against the gods.
And that's how the Greeks used it, their great playwrights used it, and hubris was always the downfall of their heroes.
And they're anti-heroes.
It was always fundamentally a pride that led you to challenge the gods.
That's fundamentally what transhumanism is, though, isn't it?
It's the lifting up of man, that which is not God, because we're obviously not divine, and challenging, looking the divine in the eye, and taking for ourselves God's prerogatives.
And of course there is a spiritual dimension to this.
When Mike Johnson says, you want to know what my worldview is, just look at the Bible, the reason that the current spirit of the age hates that so much is because what is the great antidote to pride or to hubris?
It's Christianity.
It's there in Judaism, obviously, but it's taken further, I think, In Christianity.
Christianity is the purest form that I can think of that really, in a non-dehumanizing way, makes you see who and what you are in front of your Creator according to the correct balance.
So obviously, I'll just close with Ephesians 6.12.
It's always a great go-to verse.
Our fight is not against flesh and blood.
Um, but against powers and dominations.
That's really what it is.
Our fight is fundamentally on a spiritual plane and I think that's the direct link, that's the direct link I see between what Joe's doing with his research on transhumanism and the ferocious Humility is the virtue that the unconverted world cannot bear to see, because humility is what stands in front of man's pride.
When man says, you know, I want to change my sex, my gender, merely by thinking it so, it's humility before God.
I said, you know, well, you can't.
You can't change that, that's a given.
And of course that just drives people absolutely crazy, and there is a spiritual dimension to that.
Here, with regards to the Catholic Church, I think right now there's taking place in Rome the Synod.
Most attention seems to be amongst Catholics here in Rome, centered towards that.
There's a lot of fear going on that Pope Francis, who I don't hold to be a legitimate Catholic Pope, is trying to fundamentally change the substance of the Catholic faith. This has been a project of the modernists for the last 60 years since the Vatican, second Vatican council. And I think really right now they're more distracted on that than on domestic US politics. But when this synod
is over, towards the end of this month, that attention will turn. There's one thing that you can absolutely say with a passion about Pope Francis is that he hates America. He loathes his Argentine Latin America. He has an absolute paranoia.
And loathing towards everything that has made the United States successful.
And everything he, his whole papacy is an attempt to deconstruct in the rest of the world the values that has made the United States so prosperous.
But obviously here, the war in Rome, we'll be keeping an eye on all of Pope Francis's interventions as and when he makes them regarding the new speaker.
steve bannon
The new speaker, we go from the spiritual war to the manifestation in the fiscal world.
He's got massive budget issues that we're going to fight, but in front of us is this Ukraine situation.
It's already starting to overwhelm the conversation here.
They want to give another 60 to 80 billion dollars with no plan presented of where it's going to go, because you could be up to a trillion dollars pretty quickly.
What's your current take on actually the status of what's going on there?
Because it's almost like a news blackout now.
You can't really understand anything that's happening on the battlefield or really in the capitals of Europe, because all the attention has been focused to Israel in the new forever war in the Middle East.
ben harnwell
Yeah, well, that's the new shiny thing, isn't it?
And the world's population can only be held by one shiny thing at a time, and Ukraine is no longer it.
We discussed a couple of days ago on the wall, and I think it was Thursday, Steve, the fact that one EU country, Slovakia, one of the smallest EU countries, but has come out now and said its new Prime Minister, Robert Fico, has said he's fulfilling his Campaign promised that there's going to be no more financial or military support to Ukraine.
And Ukraine, Slovakia is the first.
It certainly won't be the last EU country to break ranks on that.
As that comes through, as developments on Ukraine elbow their way back in to the national attention, we'll definitely be following that.
There is something, however, in the United States, actually, that I think is interesting.
There is an attempt to decouple Ukraine and Israel, but they are related at least in terms of the United States' finite resources.
There was one story that I'd like to touch on in this regard, Steve.
steve bannon
Ben, Ben, Ben, just hang on for a second.
Let's go to break and I want to get this in its totality because right now there's a big issue.
We're the hard line.
Zero money for Ukraine.
We realize that the Speaker and maybe some other folks don't appreciate that.
But we're very adamant that no more money for Ukraine.
It's been a complete scam.
If you put this 80 billion in, That doesn't end it.
Then you're committed all the way to the end.
You're going to be at 500.
You're going to be half a trillion dollars before you turn around.
And most of that skimmed off by these crooks in Ukraine.
Not the people.
The poor people have given, what, 50,000 combat casualties.
Men, women, children.
Particularly fighting age young men and women.
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unidentified
Let's take down the C.C.P.
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Ben Harnwell, Ukraine.
Because right now, this battle, and remember, folks, we've got to bifurcate, and there's a sense in the conference, bifurcate Ukraine funding from Israel and from the border.
You've got the heroes of J.D.
Vance and Roger Marshall and Mike Lee and Ted Cruz pushing that against McConnell and his team.
This $106 billion is going to be quite ugly.
But if we can't get our arms around this, you're never going to close the gap of the $2 trillion deficit you have every year right now.
And structurally in place, that won't change unless we force change.
Ben Harnwell.
ben harnwell
Steve, look, I've said occasionally before on this show that I've read every single comment that's ever been posted on my feed on Getter.
I know what I'm going to say now isn't going to resonate with everyone.
That's the way things work.
Personally, if I were the President of the United States, I would be funding neither Ukraine nor Israel at this point.
I wouldn't even think about it.
Put them both together in a spending bill if you want to, I'd veto the whole lot together.
Nothing would give me greater pleasure.
And then I'd send some money towards East Palestine.
Biodynamics, Steve, isn't all bad.
There are some sectors of the economy that are doing great.
The military-industrial complex is one of them.
We often talk about the MIC here on the War Room, but I saw one article today, if I can ask Denver to bring this up.
This is my number one article.
Ukraine war orders starting to boost revenues for big U.S.
defense contractors.
This was an article published yesterday.
There's a throwaway line in here, which I'll just read out, because sometimes people assume that talking about the military-industrial complex is a bit conspiracy theory stuff.
It's not at all.
That term is not used in this article.
But here's one throwaway line, which I'll just mention to you before moving on to something I really do want to hit, which is Israel.
The General Dynamics Combat Systems Unit, which makes armoured vehicles, tanks and the artillery Ukraine uses, saw its revenue rise almost 25% versus the same period a year ago.
And then Reuters lists a whole sector of a whole different tranche of defence contractors about how their share prices are rising.
That's really a consequence of, it's purely a consequence of the Ukraine war, both because these contractors have been sending armaments to Ukraine, but they're also now restocking the inventory that the United States has gone.
They're doing very, very well indeed.
One area of the U.S. economy that is doing very well.
unidentified
So that's always good news, Steve.
ben harnwell
Very quickly, because I know I don't have much time, there's a very important thing here.
unidentified
The Democrat Party has been going... Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
I want to make sure that off of that.
Biden, The Hill reported yesterday that Biden shifted the focus on, about the supplemental, really from national security, the pitch, particularly for Ukraine, Has been how it's creating jobs in the United States.
I'll have to I'll get that and put it up on my getter over the weekend.
I think I've had it up yet.
It's actually they're making it as a jobs to your point about the military industrial complex.
Their number one point that they're selling and they're going to try to sell Johnson, Mike Johnson about the house is that the military industrial complex is in every district right now.
They spread it out in every district and that it's the number one, the number one jobs creator.
Now, we're not pacifist.
In the war room or America first, but there is something to be said to to hammer our swords into plowshares, right?
There's something there that we ought to think through.
I think making the pitch that the reason we got to do the 60 to 80 billion for Ukraine is principally for the job for the jobs.
The high-value-added jobs that we're making, I think, talks a lot more about the situation our nation finds itself in.
So, Ben, you're very, very pressing on that, and that's really one of the central things we're going to be pressing over the weekend.
Continue on.
ben harnwell
You know, Mitch McConnell is explicit on that argument, Steve, and there's no pretense that the Republicans in the Senate are there to represent the American people.
He's absolutely full-on saying, you know, all this money is going into the defence industry that creates jobs in the United States.
You know, it's basically, if you look at how these people see the economy, it's a giant Escher diagram, M-C-Escher, you know, the paradox things where we have water running uphill, And all the rest of it in perpetual motion.
These people see the economy with everybody with their hand in the back pocket of the person in front of them.
And thus it goes on infinitely.
But of course, you can't generate wealth like that by confiscating it from the people, giving it to that sector of the economy that makes your campaign donations.
That's just not going to work.
It's just going to impoverish everyone.
Which is why in the United States, and not only in America, we have for the first time in recorded history a generation of people That believes its children will have a worse standard of life than they have had.
This is a novelty in the United States.
Think of the hope and the promise that the United States was founded on.
And every generation from 1776 onwards, every generation has believed its kids will have a better standard of living.
And that has always been true up until now.
unidentified
Why?
ben harnwell
Because these sociopathic overlords have robbed the American people blind Steve, I think I've run out of time.
I really wanted to talk about this Biden thing.
captured to stop the American people affecting change.
You know, to come back to the point that we started the segment on, it's absolutely outrageous.
Steve, I think I've run out of time.
I really wanted to talk about this Biden thing.
unidentified
Perhaps I can hold it through until Monday.
steve bannon
Let's hold it to Monday and we'll get on top of that.
We'll get on top of it Monday.
We've got a lot of work to do on this Ukraine situation over the weekend.
We're not asking you to man the ramparts yet, but that is coming as they try to work through this, whether they're going to bifurcate it, what they're going to mix and match.
I think we've separated it out, at least in the House.
From Israel, not guaranteed yet, but from Israel.
And remember, if we stick to the Hastert Rule, which means the majority of the majority has to vote to bring it forward or kill it, then I think we could be in good shape.
But the Ukraine thing is going to be quite a fight, particularly as our Western allies, quote unquote, allies, start to get cold feet on Ukraine.
Ben Harnwell, how did they get to your... I'm quite jealous of your engagement On Getter, you've got amazing engagement.
Of course, you put up much more controversial things than I do, but maybe that's the reason.
How do people get to you, Ben?
ben harnwell
Three modes, Steve.
Register for the newsletter on warroom.org.
You can get hold of me also on Rumble on Bannon's War Room there.
A splendid channel on Rumble with great commentary as well, great comments.
Always posted on everyone's segments up there.
And of course, you can get me on the greatest profile on the...
Ben, thank you so much.
Steve Bannon because you very kindly now share my post.
Thanks so much Steve. God bless.
steve bannon
Selected posts, some of yours are still too hot, coming a little too hot even for me.
unidentified
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steve bannon
You got it, you get it all there. Ben, thank you so much, great work.
Also, Grace, you know, the Bill Blaster app.
Go to the Apple Store right now.
I think we're number 25 in all Apple Stores.
I don't know, 10,000 or 15,000 apps.
This is the app that's going to give you operating leverage remaining the ramparts.
We did it and changed out the house.
With virtually no technology, obviously, President Trump pushing, you know, having the shoulder to the wheel of President Trump, same way.
This app is going to make your life a lot easier to use as we go into full attack mode on some of this legislation that's come up.
Remember the CR, the omnibus, the cuts, the appropriations bills, the supplemental, and that's just the money side.
There's so much going on, the defense of the southern border.
One thing is we've been in this intense fight for the last month or two, a couple of months.
We have not had the time that we want to spend really on the attack on the American family and the attack on our kids.
I want to bring in Sheila Matthews now from Able Child.
Tell us, or Able Kids.
Tell us about, we've got the situation in Maine, but you had, is it Able Child?
You've got this situation, With these shooters and all this, there's a lot of things about young men being put on drugs.
Walk me through how you started this organization, what was the genesis of it, and what's this issue that faces us in public schools?
unidentified
Sure.
My son was seven at the time and I was embattled with the psychiatric industry that's embedded in our school system through the school psychologist.
They wanted to put my son on Ritalin and I refused and then it became a big problem for the school and a lot of pressure.
I met another mom who was testifying before Congress I happened to flip on the station and see her testifying in front of Congress that her son was placed on Paxil and attacked her with a knife.
And she refused to continue him on Paxil.
And then her son was kicked out of school until she complied.
And so basically that's how I got involved with this.
And then my experience, I never put my son on drugs.
But then my experience led me into the foster care system where they're massively drugging children and then I'm now tumbled into the mass shootings.
So I've been working on this for about 22 years.
steve bannon
This is, I want to hold you through the break, because this fascinates me.
Because I know people in my extended family that years ago, you know, and these were just young boys who were active, and next thing you know, they're talking about putting them on these drugs.
They go, what is going on here?
These are just young kids, they're boys.
Is that what happened to your son?
When you say the psych, we got about a minute, the school psychologists are embedded.
Why do psychologists have the ability to order up drugs to put these kids on?
unidentified
Because Congress and the Senate are giving them the mental health dollars and the authority to diagnose these children off of checklists.
And so, Able Child was named after President Eisenhower's able children, so they took those grants, they've converted them into mental health grants, and now the more children they get onto these psychiatric drugs, Um, the more money the schools make.
So, um, that is how they're allowed to do it, and it is devastating for the families.
And, um, they're up against this, um, coercion.
And, um, if they don't place their kids on these drugs, there's really no other alternative educational solution.
So they're coercing the parents.
And, um, so that's how it's happening.
Um, yeah.
Very sad.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
Sheila Matthews on top of one of the problems I think that's driving so much else.
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steve bannon
So, Sheila, help me out here, particularly for folks that have not had kids in school in the last couple of decades, right?
Some of our older audience, because I think people are confused about how has this come about?
Just walk me through.
The school, and I didn't know schools were medical facilities, but you're saying the schools can diagnose through the school psychologist?
Particularly young men who are just active because, you know, it's hard enough to sit in school.
They're active.
They should be out in a field somewhere, you know, working with their hands or playing sports.
Walk me through the process.
They can diagnose a kid with something and the next thing you know, they're on drugs?
unidentified
Yes.
These are ADHD checklists.
They're very subjective.
And based off these checklists, they tell you your child has attention deficit disorder.
And then they refer you out sometimes to behavioral health vendors that the schools are associated with.
And your child then becomes into the pharmaceutical industry.
And this is massive.
This is policy across the country in schools.
And that's how I started.
And then I started, I got involved in helping another mother who lived in Sandy Hook.
And I did a one year work on that mass shooting.
And now I've been working on mass shootings across the country, trying to get, right now we're focusing on the guns and basically we're losing the data and the fact at the time of the shooting, We need to be asking different questions.
Who is the treating psychiatrist?
Like in Sandy Hook, they knew that the night of the mass shooting, they knew who the treating psychiatrist was and the drugs, the cocktail of drugs he was on.
So that is how it starts in the school system.
And then they get these kids on a cocktail of these psychiatric drugs.
Like the Parkland shooter, he was on a cocktail of psychiatric drugs and he was actually, Drugged by the state of Florida through foster care.
And that trial was quite interesting, Able Child.
Hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
steve bannon
You went from concern about your child and they make it very tough to go to school to the mass shootings.
How did you make that connection?
What is the connection, the specific connection, the receipts that tie what they're doing and have been doing for money and for other things to the mass shootings?
unidentified
Well, the co-founder of Able Child, her son was placed on Paxil and she no longer recognized her son.
She wanted to stop that.
She didn't want to put him on these drugs anymore.
So, moms were kind of all trying these different drugs and their policy was like, if one drug doesn't work, you need to try another one.
And Parents were being coerced and I was being coerced.
I lived in a pretty wealthy town and I was like the only mom who wasn't placing my son on these psych drugs.
So I started to do research into it.
My co-founder worked with Dr. Peter Bragan because she needed to get an expert to counter the school.
And so, you know, and then she ended up suing the school.
So that's how I started to get involved in it.
And then other moms who didn't have the money that I had to get private evaluations.
I met another mom who lived in Sandy Hook and her kid was taken by the state.
And Patty and I from Able Child decided to, we said, we're not going to leave you behind.
We're going to help.
And we've been trying to do this for basically 20 years now.
So that's how we started to make the link that these parents were being coerced.
They were being told that their kids had ADHD.
And there's no science behind it.
It's a checklist.
It's like, does your child look out the window?
You know, does your child get up out of the seat?
And my son did that.
I never placed my son on these drugs, but I could not leave these other kids behind.
And so I got involved in that.
And then this mom from Sandy Hook invited me to, when Sandy Hook happened, she was like, Sheila, I think this, This boy was on drugs.
And so I sent over to the state investigator all the list of all the shooters that were on the drugs.
They had that data day one.
And so then I started working.
I was up on the ground in Sandy Hook like on day two.
Another mother and myself created a petition and we were shut down by the police.
And then we sued the state for Adam Lanza's mental health records.
And that's the key here, Steve.
Every school shooting, we need to know who the treating psychiatrist is.
They need to come out of the dark corners of where they're hiding and come up and tell us, what cocktails of drugs have you put these kids on?
And why did their treatment go so south?
But no, they wanna focus on the guns and they wanna focus, like this latest shooting in Maine, they wanna focus on the writings of this guy who he follows politically.
That's all garbage, okay?
They know who the treating psychiatrist is in Maine, okay?
They already know the drugs he's on.
And trust me, they don't wanna, I don't know if they caught him, but as of last night, he was still out there.
He's not going to make it.
They're going to want to shoot him, because if they come in, then they've got a whole other mess of exposing the psychiatrist.
Every shooting, the psychiatrist walks away scot-free.
And that industry gets billions of dollars more.
Like President Biden just signed into law All these billions of dollars for now mental health clinics in the school.
With Able Child's Help, we're fighting for a little board of ed in Killington, Connecticut, who is standing up, and they're being sued because they don't want to have one of these clinics in the schools.
So This is really a challenge right now.
steve bannon
Sorry.
Sheila, can you just hang on for one second?
I want to hold you through the break.
Also, I have Sean McBridey, who's also from up in Maine.
We're going to have him on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
I want to make sure everybody, look, we're trying to check boxes.
So you can have time and focus to man the ramparts and not just deal with all the problems in the world.
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