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Episode 3126: Mike Johnson Wins Bid For Speaker
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unidentified
The level of just profound personal animus that Romney holds for other leading lights in the Republican Party, this is just a few highlights.
Ron DeSantis, there's just no warmth at all, and that's one of the nicer quotes.
Newt Gingrich, a smug know-it-all, smarmy, and too pleased with himself.
Santorum, sanctimonious, severe, strange.
Rick Perry.
Republicans must realize that we have to have someone who can complete a sentence.
Ted Cruz.
Frightening.
Scary.
A demagogue.
Huckabee.
A huckster.
A caricature of a for-profit preacher.
Bobby Jindal.
A twit.
John Kasich.
Lack of thoughtfulness.
Lack of attentiveness.
Ego.
No wonder he and Chris Christie spark.
With friends like that.
I am eager to know whether this distrust, this distaste for the leaders in his party, was it always in him or did Trump really catalyze a sense of anger and frustration?
Well, I think that what's important to know about those quotes is some of them are things that he told me over the course of those two years.
Some of them are from his journals dating back a decade, right?
And so what that shows is that for a long time, he has had a sense that the Republican base gravitates toward figures who he finds unimpressive, to say the least, sometimes frightening, right?
But especially in the last few years, he's seen the party, you know, become more and more populous, more and more extreme.
You know, those quotes have started to get a lot of attention in the last few days, and people have said, oh, he's consumed with resentments, he's just, you know, mad that he lost his election.
I think what it really reflects is a profound disappointment in the leaders of his party, this party that he once believed in so much, that he thought represented all these things like Free trade and democracy promotion.
And now he sees it become a cult of personality around Donald Trump.
And he sees these people he once did respect or at least hold in high regard rally around Donald Trump, even while in private.
They tell him, yeah, Donald Trump is a menace.
Yeah, he's he's terrible.
But we have to do this because we need to win our next election.
I think something after January 6th and him just snapped.
Yeah.
And he was finally ready to unburden himself and that's really what he did with me for two years.
willie geist
Actually a connection of what we've been talking about earlier in the show with Mark Meadows and Jenna Ellis which is that it appears these members of the Republican House caucus are rooting out anyone, see Emmer, who was nominated and then quickly stepped away because he dared not support those lawsuits challenging the election results.
Now, he did sign on to one in Texas, so he's not totally clean on this.
But anybody, and they're proudly talking behind the scenes to Trump's people saying, I stood up for you in the caucus room.
I stood up for you.
We're getting rid of anybody who does not support you.
Donald Trump hangs over this process entirely.
unidentified
That's absolutely right.
I mean, the Republicans are now in this, you know, doom loop of crazy and absurdity, you know, deep dive, you know, into the back benches to come up with somebody who would be acceptable and acceptable in a party that has been, you know, enabling and empowering the legislative terrorists for years.
I mean, this has been a long time coming, but you're absolutely right.
What you saw yesterday was Donald Trump facing all of the legal problems that he is facing, reasserted himself as the apex predator of the Republican Party.
He doesn't have the clout to get somebody like Jim Jordan elected as Speaker, but he certainly has the clout that he can destroy anyone who has taken a stand against him on the big lie.
And so what you are seeing is, in fact, the support for the big lie, support for overturning the 2020 election has now become, you know, not just a litmus test, it has become a life or death requirement in the Republican Party.
Because Donald Trump has made it clear that if you did not sign on to what he attempted to do on January 6th, that he will kneecap you, he will take you out.
He's sitting in court.
I mean, think about his day yesterday.
He's sitting in court hearing testimony about how he, you know, all the fraud he engaged in.
He hears that Jen Ellis has flipped the story of Mark Meadow getting immunity, and yet what does he do?
says, you know, I am still in charge of the Republican Party. I can extend this chaos and I can set the standard for the future of this party. It's kind of a remarkable 24 hours. Is that the threshold here basically?
If you don't have enemies, it's your only pathway to 217? No, no, not at all.
As a matter of fact, last week, on Saturday, I texted Mike.
I was sitting with my wife and we were talking and she said, who do you think has got a shot at this thing?
And I said, well, it's always the first few that hit the beach that end up getting killed.
And that's exactly what happened.
And I said, I would hope that we would get someone like Mike Johnson.
And I actually had texted him at that, and I reminded him, and he reminded me of that last night.
And so, you know, and the other question I get asked is, was it worth it?
And I said, absolutely, it was worth it.
It was, you know, as I've stated many times, I prayed about it.
It was the right thing to do.
And I think you're going to see a great leader.
I think the lobbyists are doing everything they can right now to generate, as they did last night in our meeting.
You saw some of the old guard trying to rally support for a bogus write-in type situation, and then that's why we forced the vote on a On an actual voice vote, a roll call vote.
So people had to stand up and then you saw everybody gathering around him at the podium.
So I think we're on our way to electing a speaker today at noon.
I think, Congressman, my biggest question right now is, whoever your next leader was going to be, and if it's Mike Johnson, which appears there's momentum to that case, that person will have 23 days until the government is set to shut down again.
He has committed to stand-alone appropriations bills, of which I believe your chamber still has eight to pass.
The Senate is just starting to move on its first three.
There's no way to reconcile 12 bills in 23 days, and you guys don't support a continuing resolution, so how does the government not shut down?
We follow the rules.
Where was everybody yelling when we took off the entire month of August and two weeks into September when we knew September 30th was the end of our fiscal year?
What's going to have to happen?
tim burchett
Some of these guys are going to have to get out of bed before noon and come down here and work.
unidentified
That's what's going to have to happen.
to happen. The rest of the country is. I can guarantee you the good folks in Tennessee right now are on their way out the door. They're taking their kids to school. They're heading to work. They're going to the factories, whatever. And you know what? Congress needs to get off their butts and get to work. And that's what needs to happen. And that's what can happen when we roll out of here. We set a meeting for 10 o'clock and then we cater in a hearty lunch at taxpayer expense. And then we leave by 2 o'clock and we walk out with our Brooks
Brothers suit, you know, unbuttoned and our jacket thrown over our shoulder and our ties undone and we say to America, we've been working hard.
Well, you know what?
That's an insult to hardworking Americans everywhere, from the North to the South.
America isn't buying that anymore.
There's a new sheriff in town whose name is Mike Johnson, and dadgummit, he's gonna deliver.
And we're gonna see in about four and a half, five hours whether or not that's actually the case.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
Okay, it's Wednesday, 25 October in the year of our Lord 2023.
To say that there's a lot going on is an understatement.
We're going to be making this show up as we go along.
We've got a lot of people who want to come on.
We had a slight technical problem, but we'll figure it all out.
We'll get it all worked out.
The great crew in Denver and, of course, my own crack production team.
Just to make sure everybody knows what's going on, as we were leaving the 6 o'clock show last night, Jake Sherman, because I get, you know, Mo and Grace and the team in the engine room are feeding me stuff non-stop.
Jake Sherman had reported they were going to have the presentations, but it looks like they were not going to vote.
They actually made a decision, called it audible.
And started to vote.
It became very evident there was a consensus around Mike Johnson, who's a very devout Christian from Louisiana, has been one of the mainstays on the Judiciary Committee and other investigations, and very close to the Matt Gaetz's and Stefanik's.
There was a real coming together.
People should know, and Matt Gaetz is going to come down as soon as we track him down and come on and give the details.
But Team McCarthy came in hard.
Last night might have been the last stand.
We're going to find out today because the people that wanted to make changes here, the people who want to take on the unit party, the people that wanted to take on the cartel want to get on with this and stay and go through the process last night.
You know, have people drop out as the votes went on, get around a designee and then go to the floor.
Go to the floor, call the Democrats and go to the floor.
Whether it's 10 or 11 o'clock at night.
That's right.
If you go to my getter account, I've taken down some of the pin posts, but it was, let's get on it.
Let's just go.
Let's vote in front of the American people.
No back, no backdoor deals.
The McCarthy element.
Remember, I've said the specter of McCarthy.
And by McCarthy, we mean the uniparty, DC uniparty.
Elite, the cartel.
The Spectre McCarthy was all over all of this.
Whether it was Scalise or Jordan or even Emmer.
The Spectre McCarthy, what they wanted was a return of McCarthy.
They wanted to show that this could not get done and that McCarthy with only you know the hard six against him and then the heart of the magnificent six in January and then the hard eight Was the, uh, the most, um, comp, you know, the, the one that had the most of the conference, uh, uh, and back including the old bowls.
McCarthy actually was in competition last night and got to 43 votes.
43 votes was her second only and Gates will walk through the detail because the quarterbacking on this and the strategy on back of this last night was nothing short of magnificent to pull this off.
Against all the old bulls.
Remember, this is still a fight about appropriations, about money, about money and power.
And the existing cartel is just not going to sit there, just not going to sit there and say, Oh, the deplorables are here.
MAGA is here.
The Trump supporters are here.
President Trump is here.
This is terrific.
Let them, let's toss the keys to them.
Let, let them run this place.
It's not going to happen.
Just like in 16, every day is going to be a fight.
It's going to be a fight, and last night was a classic, and it will go down in modern political history as a tectonic plate shift.
When even members, I think, of the House, the scales fell off their eyes and they started to see exactly what this fight was about.
Everything you've seen on TV, everything you've seen on Fox News, it's all nonsense.
This fight, this fight, Is your fight this fight is quite frankly between the citizens of this country and particularly those citizens that have engaged and said we are on a Charlie Sykes is wrong there.
It's a fiscal doom loop.
I've got a there's a great story up in zero hedge today that I put up.
It's a fiscal doom loop.
And you, the citizens of this nation, have risen up and said, no, we must stop this.
We must thwart this.
You heard the last question CNN asked of Tim Burchett.
Well, what are you going to do?
You know, you're going to shut the government down.
You're going to shut the government down.
You're going to shut the government down.
The harping on something that's not particularly relevant, because what's relevant The fight last night was an absolute classic.
And where do we stand today?
Well, at high noon, and this was blocked.
This was McHenry, the McCarthy McHenry, and I hate to say it, even the Jim Jordan element.
Yes, Jim Jordan.
I hate to say that.
Uh, Element closed the floor last night, blocked it so they couldn't go to vote last night, and then blocked it so it couldn't be 9 o'clock this morning, but to noon.
You give them as much time as possible.
And trust me, they're over there right now in the Capitol thinking up every plot they can do to stop Johnson from taking the speakership today.
President Trump has come out and supported Johnson.
Tom Massey just came out, who was a hardcore Jordan backer, just came out and supported him.
The support's coming from every corner, except for the hardcore McCarthyites, who are dug in here.
So we're going to see today.
It's going to be a tough fight.
You are not just going to be ringside, you're going to be in this fight.
We're going to stream it immediately, starting it new.
We're going to talk about it up until then in the pregame.
At noon and you're going to be active participant.
Remember your voice.
You have been the deciding factor here.
President Trump came in yesterday and gave us amazing air cover at the timing was exquisite.
And think what Charlie Sykes said there over at MSNBC.
President Trump with all that going on, he's in a courtroom with a guy perjuring himself, lying about him.
Right?
Uh, he's got, uh, all this other, you know, meadows going against what he said publicly and what's in his book.
Everything going on around President Trump, he had the focus to come in and take out Emmer at exactly the right time.
There's a lot going on here, folks.
But the cartel's on their back foot.
Let's keep it that way throughout the day.
Short break, we're gonna get down to more details next on The War Room.
unidentified
Stephen K. Baff.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
We got a lot of work today.
We're going to be juggling a lot.
We're supposed to have Gates, Burchett, General Flynn, Cash, Paxton.
We may have to dip in and out of some of this.
So much is happening, even as we speak, in the fight for the control of the House.
And remember, the McCarthy guys are going to do everything possible to retain power.
Very quickly, last night, if you can put up that photo, What Mike Johnson did immediately, instead of going to the sticks, instead of going out where you see Scalise and everybody, after they got the designee, you go out to the media sticks, where the microphones are.
Mike Johnson did something totally different.
He said, we're not going out to that.
unidentified
We're not going to do that.
steve bannon
We're not going to play their games.
They're going to come into this conference room where we've been debating this for hours, and everybody's going to stand together.
And what did Mike Johnson do the very first thing he did was pray to Almighty God.
Right there with the media having to watch it.
Right?
The secular, disgusting media.
Right there.
Up in their grill.
That shows you a new take on leadership.
And then, and I don't know if this was Johnson's guys or somebody, because this has bugged me from the beginning.
McCarthy still sits in the Speaker's office.
He was waiting to return.
The restoration.
They went down and took the sign off, if we got that shot.
They took the sign off, finally, off the Speaker's office in McCarthy's name.
Took it off.
A lot of bad blood last night.
A lot of bad blood, because people finally, the unmasking process came to the apex last night.
The unmasking process.
And it went back to these old bulls, a lot of these guys in the Appropriations Committee, A lot of them, you had Womack and these guys come out, oh we really need, what we need to do is get McHenry, we need to do, no it's not going to happen.
Not going to happen.
And you down in the South, know what's going on now.
Now CNN, Zachary Wolf over at CNN.
He's written quite frankly, CNN, Collinson and Zachary Wolf writing for CNN actually understand what this fight is about more than most.
And he's got he put a piece up there that this is about taking on the deep state and the administrative state.
This fight that we're having right now is about reorienting the House to take that on as Trump's second term.
We're building the farm team right now.
With Paul Danz.
Everything focus, everything converge.
As Mike Davis said, this is Bud Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
This is the situation.
This is why the Chevron case is going to come up.
It's all a convergence to take down the deep state and the administrative state.
Absolutely converged.
The House piece, Trump's return as president with now a team being built by Russ Vought and those guys, Mike Davis and his understanding with Mike Davis of Gorsuch and these others who are deconstruction of the administrative state from the Supreme Court to the federal judiciary of Trump's picks.
Mike Davis, how big a deal is this about Mike Johnson?
mike davis
Mike Johnson will be outstanding as the next Speaker of the House.
He is a rock-solid conservative.
He's a very smart and effective constitutional lawyer.
He's very well respected by his Republican colleagues across the spectrum.
We could not have asked for a better pick for the time.
So House Republicans should get behind Speaker Mike Johnson today.
steve bannon
Davis, he's a little bit like you.
I mean, he doesn't come off as hot as you because you're a redheaded Irishman, but he he's a strict constitutionalist.
And, you know, knowing him on these committees and people around him and seeing as he is infuriated.
by the administrative state.
And he's particularly infuriated by the deep state element of it.
He's disgusted with what DOJ's turned into.
He's disgusted with what's happened to the FBI.
He's particularly, not just as an institution, but he's really disgusted about Merrick Garland and this crowd over there, Lisa Monaco and this crowd over there at DOJ.
Your thoughts?
mike davis
Yeah, I mean, he's he knows what the what the Biden Justice Department, including the FBI, has been up to.
He's on to their game and he is Like I said, he's a smart constitutional lawyer.
He's going to be able to root this out, and he's going to be very effective at it.
He was the chairman of the Republican Study Committee, which is the conservative caucus.
He's the vice chair of the House Republican Conference now.
He's a deputy whip, so he's been in the House leadership.
He's been on these committees.
He's done the legal work on the outside.
He's been in the Louisiana state legislature.
has done a lot in a short amount of time so he's not he's only been in DC for like five or six years so he's not part of the problem he's not part of the swamp and I think he he's the guy you want to go in and help drain the swamp and take out the administrative state and hold them accountable.
steve bannon
I want to talk about tech here because people, the inside base on a lot of this is the control that the Wall Street oligarchs and big tech have over the imperial capital.
And this came out really in the beloved Jim Jordan You know, and we know from our audience, right?
Our audience are Jim Jordan 1.0 guys.
They're certainly not Jim Jordan 2.0 guys.
It's one of the reasons that you didn't see the passion.
You saw it on Fox, but you didn't see the passion from the grassroots.
A lot of that has to do With Jordan's association with Big Tech.
Mike Johnson, I think you're going to get the reverse, but talk to me about how Big Tech, the Big Tech's got their hand in everything.
The money they've got, the power they've got on Capitol Hill is unprecedented.
Mike Johnson, I mean Mike Davis.
mike davis
Yeah, I mean, I would say this.
I was a loud and vocal critic of Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan for many years because of their position on tech.
I think that they were too cozy with Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple.
Those trillion-dollar big tech Monopolists have gatekeeping power over information and commerce.
They have the ability to control what we say, what we hear.
They can throw the outcome of elections like we saw with Facebook and Zuckbox in the 2020 election.
They have too much power and there's a coalition of populist conservatives on the right along with old-school traditional liberals who don't like that these tech oligarchs, these trillion-dollar big tech monopolists, have that gatekeeping power, right?
And so they want to do, we want to do trust busting.
And I think you're going to see Mike Johnson is more in our camp.
That we should hold these trillion dollar big tech monopolists accountable for their bad acts.
They cancel conservatives, they stifle free speech, they crush small businesses, and it's time that they're held accountable.
There's a bipartisan coalition right now in the House and the Senate that can break up Google's gatekeeping power right now.
Google is the worst offender and there's a bill right now By Senator Mike Lee, certainly no liberal that can break up the Google's online advertising monopoly, which is the key to all of this.
If they didn't control online advertising and the billions of dollars in revenue that they get from that, they wouldn't have this gatekeeping power.
So I hope Mike Johnson, as the Speaker of the House, can have the House team up with Senator Mike Lee and let's get this legislation passed to break up Google's online advertising monopoly.
steve bannon
Look, I'm not sure.
Look, there's nothing perfect in this world.
And, you know, we weren't going to end up with a perfect speaker unless you had Trump in an interim.
And that clearly wouldn't happen.
President Trump's fully occupied with running for president and trying to sort this mess out.
Johnson is not going to be the type of, you know, radical budget deficit hawks that I am and many of the people on the show.
But I think we're going to get wins in many other places.
As you would look out, what are the types of aggressive moves you would like to see on the administrative state, the border, other things that are kind of in Mike Johnson's, more of his wheelhouse?
Mike Davis.
mike davis
Well, I would say I put out a Fox News opinion piece on the appropriations process for Kevin McCarthy, and the same holds true for Mike Johnson.
I think Mike Johnson needs to push very hard.
Remember, the House controls the power of the purse.
If the House doesn't appropriate the money, then it doesn't get appropriated.
You need the House, you need the Senate, you need the President to sign the appropriation.
And I would say this, that the American people are tired of out-of-control spending.
They're tired of the resulting Inflation that makes it so hard for people to make ends meet every every month with high gas prices high food prices and the interest rates are out of control making home ownership out of reach for too many working-class everyday Americans.
And I think what Mike Johnson and House Republicans need to do with this appropriations fight is try to bring spending back to at least pre-COVID levels, right?
This is the diet we're going to put the federal government on.
And if the Senate Democrats and the Biden White House don't want to go on that diet, then I guess what?
Guess what?
We're going to shut down the government.
Until they decide to go on that diet, and I think that's key.
And they also need to include crucial appropriations writers in this appropriations process to say we're not going to spend money, for example, on transgender surgeries for kids and prisoners.
We're not going to have a politicized and weaponized justice system.
If we do, they're going to lose all federal funding.
You're not going to be able to go after major presidential candidates on or before The presidential election.
We haven't had an indictment of a former president or a leading presidential candidate in our history.
Why are we starting now with this lawfare and election interference?
There are so many things that the Republicans can do and I encourage Mike Johnson's team to look at my Fox News opinion piece on this.
steve bannon
We'll make sure it gets over there.
They're getting all over, the mainstream media is coming in hard, because Mike Johnson, I think he worked at Amicus Brief, he was very involved in the initial efforts to set things right on the stolen election.
And the election was stolen.
You can see the catastrophic consequences of that all over.
How tough do you think they're coming on that, Mike Davis?
mike davis
I think people are so tired of Democrats complaining about the stolen election.
The Democrats, Hillary Clinton still claims the 2016 election was stolen.
I think people are tired of hearing the Democrats complain about this.
It's not that, you know, people complaining about a stolen election are ignoring the fact that the world is on fire under President Biden.
We have chaos and war around the world.
Our economy is in shambles.
I think people are ready for some more Trump mean tweets to put President Trump back in office instead of having chaos and despair around the world.
steve bannon
Mike Davis, how do people get to you?
How do they get to Article 3?
How do they find your fiery social media?
mike davis
It's article3project.org, article3project.org, and my mean tweets are at MRDDMIA, M-R-D-D-M-I-A, on Twitter to get her through.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Mike, Mike Davis, let's man the ramparts.
Let's start fighting, brother.
Mike Davis always loves a fight.
Fighting Irishman right there.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Yesterday was history, historic and fast moving from a courtroom in Manhattan where President Trump participated to the nation's capital to you out there who made this happen.
The number is 202-225-3121.
I want to show the picture I'm bringing of Matt Gaetz, Congressman Gaetz right now.
But Mike Johnson, let's see this again.
First thing he did was not go to the sticks, but to call the media into the conference room where they had this intense debate for hours when he was named designee.
He bowed his head in prayer with the entire conference in back of him, bowed his head in prayer to Almighty God.
Matt Gaetz, it was epic, historic, unprecedented.
Walk us through it.
matt gaetz
Thanks so much, Stephen.
I have to start by thanking the War Room Posse.
This would not have happened without you.
I can legitimately say that the feedback people were getting from our activists all over the country led them to the best result.
And I also want to thank you, Steve, because though I get very frustrated with you sometimes when I'm trying to call you and get advice and you're broadcasting, you know, 87 hours a day, I do appreciate in the off hours your counsel.
And it's important for people to know how How gracious you are with that, and how much I appreciate it, and how much my colleagues appreciate it.
So, I want to give you the first draft of history.
steve bannon
Let me just say one thing, and I always defer to Gates, because this is a young man that's got quite, he's playing five-dimension chess all the time, and sometimes we have crosswords, a little hot-talking, but it's all in the process of making sure things run well.
Matt, terrific job.
Walk us through what happened.
matt gaetz
No, it's the Irish in you and the Scotch-Irish in me, maybe.
So, all right.
Here's what happened.
Really, the chapter of this that was dispositive, the crescendo, begins as Tom Emmer is withdrawing from the race yesterday.
I told Emmer on Sunday he was not going to get there.
He was going to move like a hot knife through butter through about the first, you know, 80% of the conference, but that there was going to be a series of votes that were never going to be there for him.
He wanted to run through it and I said, Tom, here's the deal.
You can have your runway, but when you get to that last group that will not support you, you cannot drag this on for days.
You cannot drag this on for weeks.
You cannot play into what Kevin McCarthy was working the whole time to try to get people to believe that the only person that could govern the Republican conference is Kevin McCarthy.
So Emmer agrees that he's going to have his shot, but that it's going to be quick.
So we get that through the gestation system.
early yesterday.
So as Emmer is withdrawing, Mark Molinaro, a moderate New York freshman Republican, stands up at the microphone and says, well, instead of restarting this process and having a candidate forum and sending everybody home for a good cry, let's just take a non-binding poll on where people would be on the person who came in second to Tom Emmer.
And that was Mike Johnson.
And Elise Stefanik said, well, that's against the rules.
The rules don't contemplate it.
We can't do that.
And brilliantly, Mark Molinaro says, then I move for unanimous consent that the rules be waived and we take a poll on whether or not Mike Johnson could be our speaker nominee.
And guess who objects to that unanimous consent request?
Kevin McCarthy.
steve bannon
Who was that?
matt gaetz
Kevin McCarthy stands up and erupts and says, I object to doing a roll call on Mike Johnson, and Mike Johnson was exasperated All the times Johnson had voted for McCarthy, it carried his water.
Maybe even voted for some bills he didn't like because he was working toward the Republican conference's stated objectives under McCarthy.
And here was the thing.
It showed everyone that it was actually McCarthy who was working to knife Scalise.
It was actually McCarthy who was working to knife Jim Jordan.
It was McCarthy working to knife everyone.
And he hadn't yet figured out a way to knife Mike Johnson.
And so he was worried that there was going to be this great unifying moment, and he scuttled the unifying moment.
So because of McCarthy's objection, we had to have this three-hour delay.
And, you know, candidates announce again, have another forum.
And guess what happens during that delay, Steve?
Patrick McHenry runs to the House floor, opens it up out of recess, and then adjourns till noon today.
Now, why did he do that?
Because they were setting up a play to block Mike Johnson With write-in votes in the intra-conference process for Kevin McCarthy.
They were promising people hearings on their favorite legislation, passage of bills.
I heard people promised, oh, maybe you'll get a chairmanship.
And the play was for McCarthy to return as speaker, and then Jim Jordan to be the deputy speaker in some sort of like Dwight Schrute assistant to the regional manager posture.
And that would have been debasing to Jordan, someone I like a great deal, and it would have been empowering to McCarthy.
So Garrett graves and all these people are working to try to effectuate this return of McCarthy.
And they're telling us they're going to be a hundred votes for McCarthy on the right end.
You know how many there were 33 on the first right end.
So they flame out terribly.
Mike Johnson's gaining momentum.
Ultimately, McCarthy gets 43 to vote for him on a secret ballot, but Mike Johnson gets a majority, and then he says, you know what I want?
I want a roll call vote.
So that those 43 would have to announce themselves as being for a candidate who wasn't even running, instead of a unifying force like Mike Johnson.
And when we called for the roll call, do you know how many people voted for Kevin McCarthy?
Zero.
How many?
Zero.
So he went from promising 100 votes, To delivering 43 to zero, willing to vote for him.
And everyone in the room knew at that moment that I wasn't the force for chaos.
I wasn't causing disunity that for the last three weeks, the reason the house of representatives has been paralyzed is because for his own selfish gain, Kevin McCarthy was sabotaging the candidacy of anyone else because he was plotting a return and we stopped it.
And in the place of Kevin McCarthy, we get a, by you, Louisiana Mike Johnson, a brilliant constitutional attorney.
He has been my seatmate in the House Judiciary Committee for seven years.
For seven years we have worked against the illegitimate impeachments, against the weaponization of this government.
This guy did the toughest cases before the Louisiana Supreme Court.
He is sharp.
He will be as respected in the homes of our most meaningful, righteous, and patriotic donors as he will at the rallies with our most enthusiastic and meaningful activists.
It is going to be a great moment for the House.
And you know what?
At the very end, when some people didn't know if they could still even bring back McCarthy, a few of them just left the room.
And didn't vote.
And the swamp is on the run.
MAGA is ascendant.
And if you don't think that moving from Kevin McCarthy to MAGA Mike Johnson shows the ascendance of this movement and where the power in the Republican Party truly lies, then you're not paying attention.
But they are crying, they are hand-wringing and bedwetting over on K Street because we have an honorable, righteous, righteous man who is about to take this position.
He's going to do great things for the country.
steve bannon
I want to make sure we go back to this, because of the 20, once you made the vote, once Mike Johnson said, I want it on the record, we're not going to go to the floor because McCarthy's guys blocked it, but I want it on the record here, not one of the 43 stood up and said, I'm voting for McCarthy, correct?
matt gaetz
No.
And like, obviously, because McCarthy and Graves and these guys were running this because they were out promising the world to people, they voted for McCarthy.
But then Kevin McCarthy, after voting on the secret anonymous ballot for himself, then had to stand up and vote for Mike Johnson after his objections had been overrun, after his coalition had dissolved, and after the sad hopes of a desperate man trying to cling to power were vanquished.
steve bannon
I want to go back to the Spectre.
We've called the Spectre.
McCarthy has loomed over this entire thing in the media.
The mainstream media refused.
They kept saying we were the causes of chaos.
This is because the lobbyists, the corporatists, the oligarchs on Wall Street, big tech have control of him and this apparatus.
They've had it now for over a decade, right?
And they don't want to give it up.
At the end of the day, that's what the fight was about.
matt gaetz
Right.
When they are in control, the American people get chaos.
We get chaos with no budgets, with rising debts, with an administrative bureaucratic state that has seemingly no check, with all of these performative resolutions and investigations that don't result in meaningful change for our people.
That's chaos.
I have tried to bring order out of that chaos.
And the reason it took me a little longer than expected, the reason it took three weeks instead of three days, is because Kevin McCarthy leveraged the last vestiges of his power to try to block any other human of any other ideology from being able to assume the speakership.
And he was defeated.
The swamp was defeated.
And it would not have happened without this posse, it would not have happened without some great work from people like Jody Arrington, Clay Higgins, Scott Perry, We had a great team working to give Mike Johnson the support he needed to build a coalition.
Kevin Hearn was an absolute star.
Mark Green was the star.
There is going to be a real opportunity for us to come together.
It is on our terms.
It is their surrender on our terms.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
This is what Green said when Green dropped out and said, he tweeted out, he says, their game's being played.
Those are the games we're talking about.
Also, Emmer and Scalise had a role in this also.
This was really a unifying moment for the entire conference.
Didn't they have a role in this also?
matt gaetz
Yeah.
And I respect these men and I know they might not be the favorite of your audience, but there was a moment when I went to Emmer and Scalise and I said, look, fellas, like now you see it.
You see it plain as day that the person who was working against you all along was Kevin McCarthy.
And Steve Scalise, like the Italian godfather, sat in the corner as McCarthy was trying to block his fellow Louisianan, Mike Johnson.
And member after member came up to Steve Scalise and he would give them advice and counsel people, respect Steve so much and listen to him.
And you watched Steve Scalise put the final dagger in the heart of the hopes of Kevin McCarthy's return.
And it was a beautiful chef's kiss because Steve Scalise actually Was not treated fairly during this process.
Kevin did everything he could to hurt Steve.
And the fact that Steve now gets to put Mike Johnson in that chair over Kevin McCarthy's attempted comeback is glorious.
steve bannon
Another Louisiana.
Real quickly, I know you've got to bounce, but you in your seven years as the wingman with Johnson, he's very focused on the administrative state.
He's very focused on the deep state.
He's very, as a constitutionalist, he's beyond upset about what's happened to DOJ.
Walk me through what do you think that's going to take as far as the speakership?
matt gaetz
Well, Mike Johnson lashes a technical proficiency to go after the administrative state with a real desire and willingness to do so.
We have had some people demonstrate great proficiency, but maybe not as much willingness.
And then some people aren't willing at all.
Mike Johnson sees the weaponized administrative state for what it is.
The best questioning that I've seen from any member on any subject in the 118th Congress was last year when Mike Johnson pinned Merrick Garland down on critical race theory and the fact that his own son-in-law was profiting off of it and Garland was then serving as the muscle.
It was exquisite.
This guy knows what to do, he is a tactician, and I will be right by his side doing everything possible to see that Mike Johnson is successful, to see that the House of Representatives is successful in our oversight goals, and ultimately that the American people are successful.
The other thing, Trump and Mike Johnson get along so well, you'll remember back in one of the impeachments of yesteryear, Mike Johnson was actually on the Trump defense team, driving a lot of the message and a lot of the legal strategy that was ultimately successful in the Senate.
steve bannon
It starts at high noon.
I hear Elise Stefano is going to put his name in nomination.
Matt, where do people go on social media to follow you?
Because it's going to be an intense day.
matt gaetz
We're not quite there yet.
I'm going to be breaking down more detail on how this developed and even what we're doing now to ensure that we lock down those last votes on my podcast, Firebrand, that people can find on Rumble, on YouTube, anywhere you get your podcasts.
Also, at Matt Gaetz, at Rep Matt Gaetz, anywhere on the internet.
I do a pretty good job letting you know what's happening.
steve bannon
Congressman Gates, fantastic job.
Great work overnight.
Look forward to talking to you this afternoon.
matt gaetz
Oh, this is what victory feels like, man.
We got more to do, but I've told you in the past and I've told the audience in the past, don't celebrate yet.
You know what?
You deserve this.
You deserve this moment when this godly good man takes this position and we can finally show you what a fighting Republican party in control of the House of Representatives looks like.
I have not seen that in seven years under McCarthy and Paul Ryan.
We finally get a chance with Mike Johnson.
This is a great day.
steve bannon
Amen, brother.
Matt Gaetz.
Let's go ahead and stream.
I want to stream his podcast ASAP.
Congressman Gaetz, thank you.
Thank you. General Flynn next in the war room.
unidentified
Let's take down the CCP.
I jumped out of the darkness.
Rose into the light.
michael flynn
Because they're so visible, because they're so public, there's no more conspiracy theory argument.
because in the past, and really only a couple of years ago, if you raised some of the names that you mentioned, the media, the big media, would attack, and they'd say, conspiracy theorists, conspiracy theorists.
unidentified
♪♪ Don't listen to Mike Flynn.
matt gaetz
Listen to this guy.
michael flynn
Listen to Dr. Harari, or listen to Klaus Schwab, or listen to some of these other leaders that are part of this organization.
Those are two that are very public and they're on record with their ideas, their timelines, and their capabilities.
It's very real.
klaus schwab
Our life in 10 years from now, will be completely different, very much affected, and who masters those technologies, in some way, will be the master of the world.
unidentified
That's a new movie, Into the Light.
steve bannon
That's a new movie, Into the Light.
I want to bring General Flynn in an era of information warfare, fifth generation warfare.
There's no better field commander that we have in the Trump movement than General Flynn.
General Flynn, you see today we're going to be up at noon in the house to try to get a speaker fighting the administrative state, the deep state, the uniparty, all of it.
Talk to me, how does this film help inform us about where we are?
It's got you and Logan in it, who are two of the best warriors we've got.
Walk me through it.
michael flynn
Right, so first you can find that film intothelight.movie, intothelight.movie.
So this is really about, this is exactly what we're involved in, is this notion of fifth-generation war, fifth-generation warfare.
I mean, this is a very real time that we're facing.
We're facing a, I call it globalism versus Americanism, and there is a real threat to this country, and That I just listened to the to the clip that you just did with Matt Gaetz you know who I have a lot of time for a lot of respect for because Matt's in there fighting and this is a very today this historic Vote that's going to take place today, and I do believe it's going to be a very positive outcome.
It's one of the sort of death knells for the establishment, RINO slash Uniparty.
One of the things that we do talk about in this book, Fifth Generation Warfare, is this uniparty that exists in Washington, D.C., and Mike Johnson is not part of it.
So now all of a sudden, Mike Johnson is going to step into a role And I think Matt laid it out strategically.
That last 15 minutes of Matt Gaetz there, I think that's going to be a clip for the history books because Matt laid out in detail, and this is years in the making, to get rid of, to put basically nails in the coffin of the establishment uniparty that exists in Washington, D.C.
This movie, Into the Light, that was written, produced, and the guy that you saw there that I was talking to, Mike Smith, You know, he created Out of Shadows and then he just recently created Into the Light, so Into the Light dot movie.
The efforts that we are involved in right now are really to save this country, and it's to save this country from this globalist takeover.
When I look at what's happening geopolitically and geostrategically, meaning what's happening politically and strategically around the world, all of these things matter as to what is going on today in Washington, D.C., in the House, and this choice of the next Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Because this is a direction that the country must take.
We must take a direction towards basically what we've always said, Steve, and you know this, America first, right?
We've got to take care of our own house first.
And that's sort of the idea about Into the light is this mass deception, this mass psyop that has been going on for many, many years, particularly led by the media, led by the sort of the big media.
But it really comes from a sort of a dark side of this globalist elite, these oligarchs that are out there both in Of course, in Europe, out of the World Economic Forum, but they exist in many places around the world.
They exist in the Prime Minister in Canada, the President of France.
I mean, we have this body of this World Economic Forum.
And frankly, I do believe that what we're going to learn from what is happening in the Middle East, that there are some elements of that World Economic Forum that have a direct play in what is happening in the Middle East and what happened to Israel.
So when we look at warfare, we look at what's going on in Israel and the fight that they have with Hamas on their southern border, Hezbollah on their northern border.
In the northeast, they've got a fight going on with basically the Syrian government.
The Syrian government has six brigades that sit on the Golan Heights, as well as what we now know, which was not reported by the U.S.
government.
I think we have 24 Americans that were wounded in Iraq.
We've got at least 30, maybe more than 30 American citizens killed in this attack by Hamas.
I mean, all of this stuff plays together.
This is not some isolated incident that we typically hear about in Israel, right?
This is a global war that we are in, and there are physical components, there are certainly informational components, and that's this business of fifth-generation warfare.
It's what the Uniparty wants you to believe coming out of Washington, D.C.—this just constant, endless war racket that we have, whether it's $200-plus billion in Ukraine or $100 million that they're trying to shove through the Congress right now.
One of the things that Mike Johnson is going to have to decide to do I do believe that Mike Johnson's going to win the day here, but what the new Speaker's going to have to do—and I mean immediately, Steve.
These guys can't go and start patting themselves on the back and take a three-day weekend.
I want to see these guys like you do, Steve, 24 hours a day, put cots and cots in the halls of Congress, start sleeping in your offices, because the American people don't—we're We've had enough.
We are running out of time.
We have maybe one more year left before we have an election.
Whether or not we have that election, this administration is going to play all kinds of games.
We have a global problem right now.
I haven't even mentioned China, although you and I have had great, great conversations about China and how much China has in terms of global influence.
The other component of this, Steve, Is this digital currency, and I know we've talked about this, you've talked about this, this role of the BRICS, the BRICS plus seven, right?
BRICS plus seven, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, plus a new seven other nations that joined the BRICS.
That represents about 75% of the world's population, and they are about to move to this central bank digital currency that is going to potentially crush the U.S.
dollar, certainly change the course Of the U.S.
dollar as the currency of choice around the world.
steve bannon
So... General Flynn, can you hang on for a second?
We're going to just take a quick 90-second break.
I just want to get back and ask you... The movie is IntoTheLight.com slash Bannon.
Go check it out right now.
You get a special deal.
Go check it out.
We're going to take 90 seconds.
We got Flynn.
We got Paxton.
We got Kash Patel.
We're going to go back up to the Capitol.
Today is game day.
Let's get focused.
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