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Oct. 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3095: Taking On The Weaponization Of The Department Of Justice
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unidentified
About 15 seconds later it was all over and we did it.
But I'll never forget.
I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down.
That was a very terrible thing.
I will say that.
And so when I see sometimes the intelligence, you talk about the intelligence or you talk about some of the things that went wrong over the last week.
They've got to straighten it out because they're fighting potentially a very big force.
They're fighting potentially Iran.
And when they have People saying the wrong things.
Everything they say is being digested by these people because they're vicious and they're smart.
And boy, are they vicious, because nobody's ever seen the kind of sight that we've seen.
Nobody's ever seen it.
But they cannot play games.
So we were disappointed by that.
Very disappointed.
But we did the job ourselves, and it was absolute precision.
Magnificent, beautiful job.
And then, uh... BB tried to take credit for it.
That wasn't good.
That didn't make me feel too good, but that's alright.
So they gotta strengthen themselves up.
chris hayes
About what went down today. You've got a vote behind closed doors. How does that vote work? I think it's a secret ballot vote, right?
unidentified
That's right, Chris.
It is a secret ballot vote, and Steve Scalise, the House Majority Leader, the natural successor to Kevin McCarthy, beat out Jim Jordan, the right-wing firebrand, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, who at least in public endorsements heading into this contest seemed to have an edge, but Scalise, it turns out, had Most of the silent members, the ones who don't go on TV as much, who aren't as popular on conservative media, they preferred Scalise.
Still, it was a narrow vote, and now Scalise has got to figure out how to get to 217 votes.
He's got his own Rubik's Cube here.
You know, McCarthy had trouble corralling the majority of the Republican conference, or rather, almost every member, as he needed to do every day to keep the job.
Scalise has got a different and equally challenging equation on his hands right now.
What I would do is I would bomb Iran's oil infrastructure.
The money financing terrorism comes from Iran.
It's time for this terrorist state to pay a price for financing and supporting all this chaos.
Yes, if you're the Iranians, if we're up to me, this war escalates.
I'm coming after you.
abby phillip
I think this is what I'm trying to clarify here, because I'm wondering... Us and Israel.
unidentified
Us and Israel.
abby phillip
The United States and Israel... No, I will be crystal clear.
Let me just understand you, just to be clear.
You're saying that you would want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran, even in the absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this attack.
unidentified
Yeah.
So if there's an escalation, Abby, if there's people's throats being cut on television as Israel goes into Gaza and they're threatening to kill the hostages, if Hezbollah is unleashed on Israel in the north, it will be because Iran is supporting that.
If you don't get the connection between Iran and this terrorist activity by Hamas and Hezbollah, you're missing a lot.
This is a terrorist state that has American blood on its hands.
It is now time to dismantle the financing system of terrorism if this war escalates.
Yes, I would do joint military operation.
I tell the Iranians today, if the war escalates, you will pay a price.
You will be out of the oil business.
I want to be crystal clear on that.
And if we don't do that, What do you expect to happen in the future?
Do you expect Israel to forgive and forget?
Biden didn't mention one word about Iran today, and I want to support the president.
I'm supporting the Saudi-Israel peace deal.
Israel made peace with several Arab countries through their Abraham Accords.
I want to help the Palestinians we can do business with as part of a Saudi-Israel peace deal, but I'm tired of letting Iran I think they did this to stop the Saudi-Arab peace negotiations, the Iranians.
I don't want to reward them, I want to punish them.
Can anyone get 217?
As I said, we're sending a loud and clear message.
The United States is ready to take action should any actor hostile to Israel consider trying to escalate or widen this war.
So for groups like Hezbollah, how much weight does that threat actually carry?
Is it likely to have any impact on their decision-making process?
And when Iran hears that, what do they hear?
The United States is good at many things, but it's not very good at either diplomacy or warfare in the global south.
So the US acts tough to support Israel.
It's always done that.
But I don't think these kind of statements influence very many people in the region.
If Iran or Hezbollah wanted to do something, an American threat probably would not stop them from doing it.
But I think the reality is that neither Iran nor Hezbollah want to start a bigger war.
The United States is hysterically obsessed with Iran for some reason, that the U.S.
always has to have an evil bad guy menace in the region.
It used to be Iraq, it used to be The Russians, it used to be Al Qaeda and all kinds of other groups, and now it's Iran.
And it's ironic that the US negotiated an agreement, a very good agreement, With Iran on nuclear issues and sanctions.
But Iran is seen in the U.S.
public sphere and the political elite and the media as a really terrible menace.
Almost as bad as China is in the U.S.
eyes.
And therefore they keep overplaying this sense of, we're going to stop Iran from doing this and doing that.
And Iran shows no sign of Wanting to be involved in the war.
So I don't take very seriously what the U.S.
says about Middle East ideological and political and military movements.
So neither do most people in the region.
joe scarborough
...going on for hundreds of years where a conference or a caucus selects its speaker by a majority vote inside the conference.
They go to the House floor and everybody votes for them.
That's how it's done, so there will be an orderly process and actually work can get done, the people's work can get done, legislation can get passed, and our allies like Israel and Ukraine can be supported.
Not here!
I mean, how long, Jackie, are they willing to continue this madness, this chaos, in the only branch of government Americans have entrusted them with?
unidentified
There was, Joe, cautious optimism yesterday that lawmakers could potentially rally around at least one of these candidates, Steve Scalise or Jim Jordan, after their closed-door meeting where they took a secret ballot on either candidate and maybe get that done yesterday afternoon, take the vote to the House floor.
and move on and start focusing on the real world issues that are blowing up around the House GOP conference as they've essentially been paralyzed without a leader.
That quickly proved to be a misguided assessment of the situation and that Steve Scalise, the frontrunner and I think clearer frontrunner at least yesterday morning, ended up having far more opposition than I think people realized.
I think there was a little bit of confusion amongst the Capitol Hill press corps because there was this conference rules package that people were debating that was put forward by Chip Roy and there was more opposition.
to that, and I think that's what people were sort of distracted by.
And there was less realization that actually a lot of the opposition was also paired with Steve Scalise.
Scalise himself was also whipping against this rules package.
That didn't sit well with a lot of members.
And the more, I think it was sort of a tinderbox kind of situation, where the more Republicans that came out of that closed-door meeting in the Longworth House building yesterday saying that they were not going to support Scalise, some of them who actually continued to maintain that they were going to vote.
This is an act of terror.
Kevin McCarthy and still had an axe to grind with those eight firebrand Republicans who ousted him last week. Things quickly deteriorated and now we're not even sure when a House vote is going to happen or whether Jim Jordan or Scalise is ultimately going to be the nominee.
This is an act of terror, it cannot stand. We heard from the administration.
There seems to have been a failure of intelligence as well.
We're not quite sure how we missed it.
We're not quite sure how Israel missed it.
We know that Egypt had warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen. We know that this had been planned perhaps as long as a year ago.
The other concern is escalation in the region. We know that Hezbollah has 100,000 rockets that would overload the Iron Dome. We know that in Syria we have ISIS. We know that Lebanon with We know that Iraq has Shia proxies and Iran backed proxies.
We know Iran itself.
has in large part funded this and provided the weapons for it.
We don't want to see escalation.
We want to see this contained in Gaza.
However, we're very concerned about the fidelity of our intelligence and the escalation of a conflict in the Middle East that could turn into a global jihad movement in Israel.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
It's Thursday, 12 October in the year of our Lord 2023.
You're in the boardroom.
We have a lot of work to do today.
You've already been quite successful Moments ago, Jim Jordan came out, and I think he said he's endorsing Steve Scalise, just in case there was any non-clarity there.
Of course, Scott Perry followed that, but said he would never vote for anybody that kept the status quo.
Steve Scalise's speakership run is in extremis right now.
The numbers 202-225-3121 This audience, if you're so inclined, call your congressman right now and give him a piece of your message.
Steve Scalise is just a watered-down version, not quite as slick a version of Kevin McCarthy, completely owned by the lobbyists.
It's just DC cartel with a less slick, Front porch.
It cannot happen to be a disaster of speakership.
Scalise, and anybody who thinks of running for Speaker, in fact, Jake Sherman, I think Jake Sherman's got a tweet out, or Manu, over at CNN.
It's quite perceptive, and the tweet talks about the, if Scalise moves up, about the majority leader race.
Where you have Emmers, and Hearn, and maybe Stefanik.
You throw Jordan to that mix, that's really the Speaker's race.
It's completely open today, because Scalise is not going to get there.
I think you're going to see mounting, more mounting opposition.
There's about 20 votes against right now.
202-225-3121, you can't have anybody, we cannot have anybody that represents the DC Insider Cartel.
And that's Steve Scalise.
He just keeps a lower profile.
And if you've noticed, if you look at the list, and Grace and Mo have it, it's up on my Getter account, and maybe Grace and Mo, you can push it out to Carly Bonet over at Telegram, and our Telegram channel, the folks over at Rumble, all of it.
You see, what might strike you as interesting, there's a lot of new names on there.
It's not the... Certain of the Hard Eight didn't make the list.
That's fine.
You're in shifting coalitions all the time, as long as you're the rock that says, America first, MAGA.
We need to know where they stand on CRs because we don't want any more.
They need to get to work.
We need to know where they are on appropriations.
Particularly, we need to know, you know, everybody's saying, Oh, it has to have, you have to have urgent, you have to put a resolution about Israel.
No, Israel knows we're with them.
But there's more disturbing information.
President Trump actually went there last night, told the BB story that Jack Posobiec broke on this very show on Saturday morning, where the Netanyahu government backed out at the last second when they took out Soleimani.
And it was quite, it was a big deal.
But President Trump had the, once again, the leadership and the courage to go it alone, which he did, to take out Soleimani.
That's the types of credit that President Trump never gets.
So, you know, is Israel with you until they're not?
I mean, this is a whole, we have to have this discussion, have to have an adult's conversation, because the ground operation in Gaza is going to be quite, it's going to make Fallujah.
Look like a day at Santa Monica Beach.
So there has to be a real discussion about this.
And right now, you saw McCall, it was in the Daily Mail, it's in the New York Post, he said it yesterday.
He confirmed that the Israeli intelligence, the Israelis were informed by Egyptian intelligence three days beforehand that something was going to happen.
So if that happens, how do you have, basically, Burning Man I mean, how do you have it?
Anyway, you have burning man all the way in a kibbutz.
That's like a mile from Gaza My note to everybody's running around so emotional if the if Hamas terrorists are animals and they are animals on the morning of the 8th They were animals on the 7th How did this entire thing happen?
We need answers.
We need answers.
And you see what Lindsey Graham and the Fox News bomber command want to do?
They want to get in and start bombing Tehran right away.
Short commercial break.
Russ Vogt, Nancy Mace, next in the War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Batt.
steve bannon
Okay, Gates, the former CIA guy under Obama and Bush is on Fox News, we're going to get the clip, saying we have to, we have to immediately get a speaker.
You need to get order in Congress immediately so we can get Israel what it needs.
No, sir, you'd be incorrect.
We need the appropriate non-DC cartel speaker to make sure that America gets what she needs.
The priority is the United States of America.
The priority are the citizens of the United States of America.
As soon as this fricking town, and the TV for stupid people, and CNN, and MSNBC, and all of them understand that.
As soon as they understand that, we can make progress.
But we're gonna block, chop block, and get in people's grill until that happens.
Because they're never going to treat you with respect.
They're never going to take this country's interests first unless you metaphorically punch them in the mouth.
That's all they understand.
They don't understand they're going to abuse you, they're going to take advantage of you, they're going to use you until that moment comes.
That's why they hate Donald Trump, a quite imperfect instrument that is an armor-piercing shell to the establishment.
Russ Vought joins us.
By the way, the number is 202-225-3121.
Newsmax just reported that Scalise, internally, they're saying he can't get to 217.
They're thinking about maybe dropping out.
Jim Jordan would jump in.
It's quite chaotic.
And that's a good thing.
In chaos, there's opportunity.
Russ Vogt joins us now.
Sir, you've been the architect of the anti-DC cartel cause of which we all are at the ramparts for.
Give us some guidance today, coach.
russ vought
Well, I think, you know, it's very clear Steve Scalise is not a paradigm-shifting speaker.
He's not an America First speaker.
uh... designee and it's clear he doesn't have a vote and i don't that's if he's gonna wake up today or tomorrow or the next day but i think what he was hoping for was that there would not be opposition on the floor that he be able to just bombs rusted as they get it to the floor and yesterday that became very clear not only do the individuals many of the individuals that were there in january and others that were there in the gates initiative other coalitions even moderates are opposed to this uh...
And so this is a wide open race.
And I think it's important to zoom out for a second.
For those who are saying that the Congress is in disarray and there's chaos, We have a funding deadline that's coming up in mid-November, and it is vital to be able to get that right.
That affects every single agency that is a part of the federal government that gets its funding, including the Department of Defense.
Including all of the funding for state and foreign ops.
That has to be gotten right.
And we can't govern by the establishment using the events that are occurring around the world to cause us to make decisions faster than are in our interests as Americans.
This is an important issue to be able to settle and to be settled right.
And thankfully, because enough members have said, Steve Scalise is just more of the same.
Remember, Steve Scalise is the guy that threatened Andrew Clyde and said he wouldn't bring his legislation to protect gun-owning Americans to the floor.
Behind all the decisions of Kevin McCarthy has been Steve Scalise.
Steve Scalise is the one that ruined the Republican Study Committee and turned it away from being the conservative conscience of the House.
That became the House Freedom Caucus, and he was largely unsuccessful because they came and were stronger than the ROC ever was.
But in the last 10-15 years, Steve Scalise has been behind the scenes pushing the cartel's interest and we cannot allow him to be Speaker of the House.
steve bannon
One more time, just hit rewind for a second about this date, because people are losing sight of this.
Why is the mid-November date so important for us to get it right?
I'm hearing, you know, even Jordan, he's got a CR that goes into January, but it gets 100% cut.
I mean, walk the audience through, in the fog of war here, what is so important we have to keep total clarity on?
russ vought
Remember the leverage points.
The debt limit ceded much of our leverage points until the end of the Biden administration's first term and only term.
Now you have just funding.
All you have in terms of the must-pass bills are the funding, and we thought at the end of the fiscal year there was going to be a big fight over efforts to defund the woke and weaponized bureaucracy, get a handle on our issues as a country, and use that as a forcing function.
But what happened, Kevin McCarthy once again governed with House Democrats.
That's why we're in this Speaker's fight, because he crossed over.
He was deposed as a result of that.
But what had been the thing that they passed was a continuing resolution into November.
So this speaker's debate is all about setting up the proper strategy and game plan that will come and allow us to use that as a leverage point down the road.
And of the members that you've talked to, potential candidates, Jim Jordan and others, it's important for them to bring their visions about how they're going to handle that.
But here's what I do know.
Steve Scalise has no interest whatsoever in using that as a leverage point.
He wants to keep the gravy train flowing, and I think that's what is critical to get his candidacy off of the table, and then we can have a conversation about how to use those leverage points against the Biden administration effectively.
steve bannon
When you say paradigm shifting, this has been one of your constructs from the beginning.
Walk our audience through what they should be looking for And when people lay out their vision, and you're right, McCarthy never did it, had the common courtesy to do it, Scalise didn't do it, I heard from the people that were in the room, there was no vision, there was no talk, it was just more of the same, it was just a junior varsity version of McCarthyism, of that brand of McCarthyism.
Walk me through what the audience should be looking for, help us out here, when you say paradigm shifting, what do you want people to, what actions do you want them to say they're going to take?
russ vought
Well, let's go back to remembering why we call it the cartel.
The cartel...
Policy wins off the table that could be achieved.
Politics is the art of the possible.
But they take them off the table.
Why?
Because they don't want the risk involved.
They want the status quo.
They want stability.
And so in this war room community, what we're constantly saying is we need those leverage points.
There's some risk.
There's some risk involved.
But we'll win that.
And we'll win as a result.
We'll be successful with why the country selected Republicans.
And so you've got to have a person in a leadership position that wants those confrontations, wants those leverage points, wants to manage that risk.
And that is what is critical to be able to get someone that wants to nationalize these debates and go hard at the Biden administration, is not just content to just keep everything being done the way it's always been done.
That's the definition of a paradigm shifting speaker.
steve bannon
You've set up and you've dedicated your life's work to this.
I mean, you were OMB director in President Trump's first term.
You'll have a very senior role in the second term.
The group you set up, Center for Renewing America, focuses on these policy issues all the time.
When we get this confusion that, you know, Gates is on Fox and you've got to get a speaker now because they've got to put out a resolution about Israel.
When you look at the world, for our audience, To put the America First priorities now, what are you looking for in someone that is running for Speaker?
What do they need to say or what do they need to lay out their vision that they will do that would convince you in the center that this person is really America First?
russ vought
I think beginning to, you know, obviously a conversation about Ukraine would be a great tell as to where someone is going to be from an America First perspective, the ability to push back on the neoconservative establishment.
But I think from the standpoint of policies, it's often easy for people to cloak themselves as America First.
And what I found so inspiring about working for President Trump was his willingness To take on confrontation on behalf of the American people to crush the administrative state and pick fights with the powers that be here in Washington, D.C.
And I think that's what you've got.
You've got to get someone that wants conflict with the left, that wants to be able to use the leverage points.
And when you hear conversations about, OK, we're going to do continuing resolutions as far as the eye can see, That's not picking a fight with the way this town works.
That is in fact the way that this town works.
There has to be a fearlessness and a lack of concern with regard to how you take on these political risks.
Yes, you've got to manage them properly, but that's what you're a politician for, to manage them appropriately and win, win the debate with the American people.
You can do it.
You got elected to Congress.
That's what we're rooting for you.
If you didn't want the risk, you shouldn't have gone to Congress.
steve bannon
Last thing, on this mid-November date, what do you feel Congress has to be doing now on appropriations works and others to make sure we don't get jammed up again?
They're just going to say, well, you need another continuing resolution.
This has to go past the holidays.
What do you want to see out of the House right now?
russ vought
Get a good speaker, then keep passing individual appropriations bills.
Send them to the Senate.
Make the Senate be the ones that are stopping them.
But always remember, this debate is fundamentally about where Joe Biden is vis-a-vis the House.
The Senate is largely irrelevant.
They will agree to whatever Joe Biden agrees to in a final determination.
But the House has to continue to pass these bills And have messaging opportunities on securing the border, dealing with the weaponization of the Department of Justice.
That would also be another example of how you get an America First speaker.
Are you willing to take on the weaponization of the Department of Justice?
Or are you viewing that as a law enforcement matter in which you are scared of even touching it?
That is a huge separator right now within House Republicans that we talk to.
steve bannon
Russ, where do people go for your social media, particularly Getter and Truth and Twitter?
You're very active.
How do they get to the center?
russ vought
At RussVote, we'll be putting up stuff throughout the day and AmericaRenewing.com and we appreciate all those who have made this happen by watching your show, Steve.
steve bannon
Well, you are the architect of this.
It's just been absolutely brilliant, and more importantly, the audience should know, Russ Vought is steady under fire.
He comes under fire a lot.
Gotta have a steady hand.
He's been a great aid to President Trump, and great things will happen in the second term with Vought there.
Russ, thank you so much for joining us, brother.
russ vought
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
You are the foundational elements of stability.
Stability.
Because this is better thought through than all this stuff you see yammering around on TV.
Gotta get a speaker right away, we need a resolution.
No.
We need the salvation of this nation.
Short commercial break.
Back in the warm in a moment.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there is no more.
Let's take down the CCP.
So in terms of the money, you write that that's why he likes Vladimir Putin so much.
steve bannon
What'd you mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
So he loves the fact that nothing happens in Moscow, nothing happens in Russia, without the express authority and consent of Vladimir Putin.
And he wants that for himself in this country.
He doesn't want to be President of the United States.
He wants to be our dictator, our fuhrer, our supreme leader, our monarch.
He wants to be the king.
And he won't stop until He actually accomplishes that.
And the thing that I warn everybody about, anybody who wants to listen, and it sounds hyperbolic, but it's not.
Donald himself turned around and said the first thing that he's going to do, if he becomes president again, is what?
He wants to rewrite the Constitution.
Can you imagine this idiot rewriting the Constitution in crayons on the back of stolen, top secret documents?
And what is the purpose of him rewriting the Constitution?
It's in order to separate and to get rid of the tripartite system of our government.
He wants to remove the legislative branch's power, he wants to remove the judiciary's branch of power, and he wants to confer all power onto the executive branch.
Which is what?
Him.
And so, by doing that, he becomes the king.
And there is no one who would be able to stop him at that point in time.
Because he'll believe that executive privilege, executive orders, will give him the opportunity to do whatever he wants.
He can go after members of Congress.
He'll go after members of the Supreme Court.
steve bannon
The reason we play this, normally we don't play Prattle, but here's the reason.
There are three simultaneous conferences going on.
To stop Donald J. Trump.
There you have, in New York City, a gathering of elites and celebrities and huge big league money for a Never Trump, you know, it's called, I think, the Never Trump or Stop Trump conference.
Now, these are mainly progressives and liberals.
Robert De Niro, who wasn't, I don't think, there, but made a statement that said that Trump not only has to be stopped, that he's evil, pure evil.
In addition, out in Park City, Utah, you have Mitt Romney, Mittens, whose biography is going to come out in a couple of weeks, and I think it's going to go after President Trump pretty hard.
McKay Coppins, another piece of work, the writer.
This is the official biography of Mittens.
This is why Mittens is stepping down, because I think he says a lot of mean stuff.
You know, Mittens has got to get really worked up, you know, to say mean things.
Um, and Paul Ryan.
I've got a Paul Ryan clip I'll play here in a second.
Paul Ryan are out in Park City.
That is, they said, it's in their DNA of this group in Park City, which are major big time donors, big money.
It says it's not in their DNA to ever accept Trump.
What they mean by that is never to accept you.
What they want is you to be just the cattle herd.
Just to be the herd.
To go about your life, to pay your taxes, you know, put your money away for retirement.
You know, you got pension, or 401k, maybe.
IRA, maybe.
Pension, maybe.
They got them, and by the way, they got them in Europe.
In Europe, you know, you got pension funds, and you got full medical care by the government.
You got it all.
How do they have that?
Because you're underwriting their defense.
Just remember that.
How's that health care working out for you?
How's that pension?
How's that big fat pension of yours?
Is that working out well?
Remember the Kochs and all these guys, the thing that drives them nuts at night, you get a thousand dollar check or whatever from Social Security.
Drives them nuts.
They're working all night.
Like, there's nowhere else you can cut.
They're working all night.
They're just, they're maniacally focused.
They gotta get that money.
It drives them crazy.
They hate it.
After you had back-breaking toil for your entire life, oh yeah, and raised your kids up to go serve their country in foreign battlefields, and did everything you were supposed to do as a good householder.
It's always you.
The burden's always on you, but it's also always your fault.
You notice that?
The burden's always on you, but it's always your fault.
We'll get into more of that.
Some of the money managers taking umbrage with some of the student organizations at Harvard.
Quite, quite upset.
They're not saying really anything about the Harvard establishment.
And this is only going to get worse.
Tomorrow's a global day of jihad.
So, I'm telling you, when you go in, when they go into into Gaza, block by block, street by street, just be ready.
Just be ready, because it's going to get ugly.
It's going to get nasty.
You're going to see the masks are all coming off.
The masks are all coming off.
You don't have to take your mask off.
They're all coming off.
You see, who has America's back?
And who is putting America first?
And who is putting American citizens first?
And it's not that they're doing it selfishly.
It's not you're doing selfishly.
If America's crippled, if America's an extremist, if America's broken, if America has been invaded, The whole rest of it comes unglued.
Then Israel doesn't have a chance.
Then Europe doesn't have a chance.
Then Taiwan doesn't have a chance, or the Korean Peninsula, Japan, the freedom-loving people on the rim of the Eurasian landmass in Asia, the littoral nations of the South China Sea.
All of it, not a chance.
In Latin America, freedom-loving people throughout the world.
If America crumbles, if America implodes, if America collapses, or if America is just so, with both debt and the invasion, if it's so preoccupied on having to get its own house in order, then it collapses.
America First is not isolationist.
It's the opposite of isolationist.
But it's not adventurism.
We've had too much adventure.
We've had too much empire building.
We're not an empire.
We were never supposed to be an empire.
Our founders and founding us as Republic warned us, warned us about going overseas looking for monsters to slay.
Even going after the Barbary pirates.
And you notice the Barbary Pirates, the first kind of foreign international geopolitical issue we had to deal with, and that was quite an issue.
It locked up the British Empire, locked up the Spanish.
They had full operational control of the Mediterranean.
This wasn't a bunch of guys from a Robert Louis Stevenson novel.
These were hardcore.
In the same bad neighborhood that is still a bad neighborhood today, maybe even worse because again, they got biological chemical and nuclear weapons that could, you know, go off and spread everywhere.
America first means that we're going to think through.
We're going to think through what the United States is going to do throughout the world.
That's in betterment of the cause of this Republic.
You notice everything in the Speaker's race?
Have you ever, have you heard any of them talk about the DOJ, the administrative state, the border, the debt, we got to stop?
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No.
steve bannon
They're already cratering on things.
Oh, I got a CR.
It's going to go into the new year and it's going to have 1% debt.
You know, Jordan's wandering all over the place.
He's wandering all over the place.
You got Scalise is just another guy from the, from the swamp.
He's just a junior version.
He's a less, he's a less, um, He's a less socially acceptable version to the Silicon Valley crowd than McCarthy.
And particularly some of the influencers.
And look, I love the influencers.
Great.
They're kind of like the special forces.
They're the special operators.
They're parachuting behind enemy lines.
But every now and again, they start running around.
Like this whole thing yesterday, hey, just take a deep breath.
This is serious work.
Remember, the war room, we're in trench after trench after trench after trench.
This audience is on the ramparts and down in the grit.
Because you gotta dig, you gotta take a trenching tool and dig these people out of here.
You have to turf them out.
Is Scalise any different than McCarthy?
Hey, take a deep breath.
You know, we got this.
McCarthy said yes, and McCarthy kind of put the knife in the scleese this morning and said, hey, quite frankly, you're supposed to have 150 votes yesterday and show some momentum.
He didn't.
He had 110.
They counted three folks from the territories that can't vote on the floor.
They can't vote in conference.
I guess it was fair to count them, but that's not quite a real count.
It was 110.
He was far short.
It was 110. He was far short.
202-225-3121. Man the ramparts.
Because after today, it's a free ball.
And you want a free ball because you want somebody to step up and say, OK, here's what I see.
My vision is speaker.
I see that I'm the speaker of the U.S.
House of Representatives and second in line to the presidency.
And I got a feeble guy wandering around and, of course, Kamala.
And so this is a quite important job.
But my vision for the country is to wait for it.
Wait for it.
Wait for it.
America first.
If I hear one more person say, oh, you can tell a phony, and you can tell somebody that does not have this country's interests in mind, and say, we have to have a speaker this afternoon.
It's urgent.
We have to have a speaker urgently this afternoon because we had to put out a resolution about Hamas.
That person right there, credibility, zero.
Take the pen and just put zero next to their name.
It's Paul Gigeaud and the warmonger neocon, neoliberal crowd, neocon, who have never gotten anything right.
Remember, this is the house organ of 20 years of relentless warfare in the first regional war.
They even call it a second regional war.
Calls for urgent!
Urgent!
They want to just skip around.
Of course, they're not going to do any sacrificing.
What did Bill Kristol tell you?
Bill Kristol, they're going to be throwing roses in Baghdad.
They're going to be throwing roses, putting flowers in the hair of the guys.
It's going to look like Paris in 1944.
It'll look like Paris.
It'll look like the Low Countries.
When the Nazis were driven out, you couldn't even get the tanks through.
There were hours and hours of celebration.
They actually sold that.
They actually sold that.
No, the speaker, 202-225-3121, you're the deciding factor.
You.
There's a shifting coalition.
Look at the names.
Grayson Moe got the names, half the names you won't even recognize.
It's a shifting coalition.
It's not done yet.
Hey, Scalise and his guys are going to, I think, hunker down and say, look, we've got to figure out, we've got to cut deals and we've got to power through this.
We have to cut deals and we have to power through this.
And so there's going to be a lot of deal making.
There's gonna be a lot of back-scratching.
So, you know, this thing is still a long way from done.
Like I said, never rest on your pitchfork until the vote's actually counted.
But I notice they're not hurrying, they're already pushing back the conference.
They're gonna go behind closed doors again.
Because you had a huge win yesterday.
They wanted to do this whole thing behind closed doors.
And finally the vote thing got blown up.
So now the vote's got to be, I think, on the floor.
But look, long story short, they don't want anybody looking in on this thing, right?
Radical transparency is not working for them.
They want to cut deals and have anonymous votes.
One of the reasons I wanted it on the record, I want to see who was with Trump and who wasn't.
He endorsed Jordan.
As people, our audience here, the War on Posse knows, I was not wildly enthusiastic about that.
Let's say I tempered my enthusiasm.
And here's the reason.
Jim Jordan, on the key issues, is just all over the map.
Jim Jordan's a good man.
Jim Jordan, at one time, founded the House Freedom Caucus, and years ago, when we worked together all the time, he was a fire breather, a firebrand.
But when you come out and the first thing you say, hey, you know, we need a CR, we got to kill you, you're unhandy to give me gobbledygook, give me Fox News TV for stupid people talking points.
Hey, I'm not sure you're the guy.
So maybe, and Jordan may have a shot at this, and maybe he comes back and can impress the woman posse with being anti-cartel.
But we're beyond the point of the happy talk.
Now we're down to it.
And of course, you're being blamed because you're the agents of chaos.
What you're actually doing is saying no.
We're not just going to jump into this.
We want to see exactly what your plan is for sorting out what's wrong in this nation.
Short commercial break, then we got Mike Davis up next.
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202-225-3121.
That would be the switchboard of the House of Representatives.
And make sure you call and get in.
By the way, call your local person, particularly if you're in my beloved South or up in my beloved inner, what is it, the Intermountain West.
You know Wyoming, Colorado, Montana, maybe up even on North Dakota, South Dakota.
Those places you are in pretty red districts and you got pretty moderate folks representing you.
Yep.
I think that's an issue.
And I think you ought to have, call, you're their partners, you give them money, you knock on doors for them.
Call them up and say, hey, how about a partners discussion?
You suck.
Okay?
I've seen you in action now.
They can't hide from the votes anymore.
They can't hide the votes.
We're not going to let them and you're not going to let them.
So make sure you light them up today.
Give them the old what for.
On Brother Steve Scalise, just another example of the DC cartel in all its glory.
Mike Davis, you called this, you wrote a quite prescient piece for a red-haired Irishman back in, you wrote it in August, Fox Digital, which is still, I think, very strong.
I actually like that site a lot because they've got really good stuff on it.
They put it up on September 8th.
That was before the guys even returned from their, like, four month of vacation.
What did you say in that piece, and why is it, why in almost the middle of October is it still the thing that we're looking for?
mike davis
Yeah, I mean, what I said is that if Speaker McCarthy wanted to be successful as Speaker and keep his Speakership, he needed to cut spending in the appropriations process
to pre-COVID levels, and that he also needed to implement policy writers, appropriations writers in the process to end the federal funding of weaponized justice against political opponents, open borders, racial division, gender chaos, and the Democrats' other Marxist policies.
And unfortunately for Speaker McCarthy, he didn't do that.
He thought he was just going to do a clean CR and maybe have the Democrats bail him out.
Nancy Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries bail him out, and that didn't work out for him, and he lost the speakership.
I think what this next speaker needs to do, whoever it is, is They have a short window here.
It's going to be about a 30-day window here to get serious about reining in our spending.
The House of Representatives has the power of the purse, right?
And the House of Representatives needs to put the federal government on a crash diet, and they need to end these woke, weaponized policies that Obama and Biden have implemented to go after their political enemies, right?
For example, There needs to be a writer that the Article 3 Project championed, along with Congressman Andrew Clyde in Georgia, that it says two things.
No federal funds may be used to prosecute any major presidential candidate on or before November 5th, 2024, and any state or local governments That prosecutes, criminally or civilly, any major presidential candidate on or before November 5th, 2024, loses all federal funding.
We need to let the American people, not these Democrat prosecutors in these Democrat hellholes like New York, D.C.
and Atlanta, decide this next presidential election.
We're not going to allow this unprecedented lawfare and election interference by these Democrat prosecutors, and the House Republicans need to get tough about this because we're not going to have a country left if these Democrats succeed with their election interference and their lawfare.
I think that that was proven by Caesar and Rome when Caesar crossed the Rubicon into Gaul because he thought he was forced there by the Roman insiders, and that was his last resort, and it led to the fall of the Roman Republic.
And I think this lawfare against Trump, if the House Republicans don't end it immediately, it's going to lead to a tit-for-tat going into the future that's going to end our country.
So it needs to end immediately.
We also need to end this gender chaos.
We need to end federal funding for gender-affirming care, surgeries and pills for kids, And prisoners, we just need to take back control of our federal government.
And if Senate Democrats and President Biden don't want to go along with these policies that have about 60% or more of American support, let them shut down the government.
Who gives a damn if we shut down the government?
People are still going to get their Social Security checks and other entitlements.
Who gives a damn if the federal government gets shut down for two or three weeks before Biden and Senate Democrats come to their senses?
steve bannon
If Kevin McCarthy had put forward, Mike, if he'd just taken the article in Fox and copied it and sent it around, Kevin McCarthy would be speaker today.
This is how big a grip... Mike, I want to ask you... I know you've got to bounce, but I want to hold you through the break.
Why won't... We've got about a minute here, Mike, and then I'm going to hold you through it.
It's a quick 90-second break.
Your plan would have saved his speakership.
What is the grip that the DC cartel has on people like McCarthy and like Scalise that for their own self-survival they can't even it's like they're inexorably pulled to the other side.
You gave him a map that says this will not just save your speakership.
This will make you a historic figure.
It's right here.
Just do it.
What is it that that keeps him from doing it?
mike davis
There are so many forces in Washington that on both sides of the aisle that fight every day to increase Washington spending and Washington control over our lives.
And when you are too beholden to those special interests, When you're too beholden to those lobbyists and when you miscalculate, when you think that you can just ignore the American people and go along with the Washington insiders, and then Nancy Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries are going to bail you out, when you miscalculate like that, then you lose your speakership.
So I think he learned a lesson, the very hard way for him.
And I think the next speaker needs to understand That today's House Republicans are serious about cutting government spending.
steve bannon
Hang on one second, Mike.
There's another part.
You use a phrase called pre-COVID that is not emblazoned upon people's minds right now.
Mike Davis is going to stick with us a little bit after the break.
Second hour of beat, hotter than the first.
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