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Oct. 6, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3082: Targeting The 'MAGA Extremists'
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raheem kassam
06:04
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steve bannon
19:19
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dave brat
02:51
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jack posobiec
04:56
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jim jordan
01:34
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mike lindell
03:41
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natalie winters
04:20
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jake tapper
00:08
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sean hannity
00:43
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
sean hannity
If you're elected speaker, you will have 15 months to prove to the Republican caucus and conference how good a job you do.
And then in January 2025, you will hopefully be up for re-election.
If you win to be Speaker again, that would be your vote of confidence.
Where do you stand on this one-member motion to vacate, triggered by any one member, which means anytime it's triggered, all other business in the House stops.
Should that threshold be raised?
jim jordan
Yeah, our conference, it's been loud and clear the feedback I get from our conference.
Our conference wants to change that.
I'm for changing that, but we got to have 218 Republicans to do it.
Because that is actually a House rule, and you got to be able to go to the floor of the House and change that.
I'm for doing that if we have 218.
I don't want to go to the Democrats and make that change, because they're going to want all kinds of things.
So let's work as a unit And deal with the problems we see in this country as a unit so we can stop where the left wants to take us.
sean hannity
And will there be all these other votes that members have been talking about?
Term limits, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
jim jordan
We brought up term limits in the committee last week and had a vote on that legislation in the committee last week.
Yeah, we need to do all that, Sean.
But in 40 days, the stopgap spending measure runs out.
We have to have a plan as a conference.
Again, when we elect our new speaker, we have to have a plan that 218 of us support on how we're going to deal with that.
How are we going to deal with when we get to November?
We can't have the same thing unfolded, unfolded last week.
So I think that we have to look at another stopgap measure that would kick in the 1% cut.
There's legislation in place right now that says if we have a CR, a continuing resolution that goes into next year, There's an automatic 1% cut that takes place.
There's nothing like a cut to spending that focuses politicians' attention.
So we need that threat hanging there to be leveraged for us to get the policies you just talked about.
The policies where we can win on the border issue, on the crime issue, on inflation.
But that's the only way this town can operate is when there's that kind of leverage and there's that kind of deadline hanging there where real cuts are going to happen.
That we can actually get people to focus and get our work done.
So that's what I think we have to do in order to deal with what's coming in 40 short days.
steve bannon
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, bro, bro.
It's Friday, 6 October, Year of the Lord 2023.
Yo.
Leverage, deadlines.
Let me think about this for a second, because Jim Jordan, let me get my number two pencil out.
Brother Jordan.
Debt ceiling.
That was the big one.
If memory serves me correctly, I don't think you were totally with us on that, number one.
Number two, the CRs, right?
The CRs.
Did I just hear?
First off, the motion to vacate is non-negotiable.
Remember, when you hear all this talk in the unions, the united party, you gotta get to 218, you gotta get to 218, you gotta get to 218.
You see this right here?
You see the morning New York Times and how you control all the narratives and all the stories, you're the stability?
This?
Your political power?
Your political power?
You need instrumentality to have that in negotiation.
You need instrumentality.
You need forcing functions.
You need deadlines, when they need to come to you for something.
Command by negation.
You negate what they want.
You don't have to have a majority to do that, but you gotta be locked solid We should have a majority, we should have a vast majority.
If you look at the, and it's a disgrace.
I'm a southerner.
Richmond, Virginia is my hometown.
It's a disgrace.
The southern congressional delegation of the Republican Party is, with a few exceptions, the most bagged and tagged establishment operation going.
And that gets back to the corruption in the state parties.
Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, Florida, Arkansas.
I'll throw in Kentucky.
I'll throw in the border state.
Kentucky.
Let me throw in another board.
Missouri, Oklahoma, and the great state of Texas.
They're by and large vote almost as a block for the establishment, for the established order.
Why is that?
It's the most MAGA part of the nation.
If you think about the two most MAGA parts of the nation, the South and the Intermountain West, and I'll throw in a couple of Great Plains states, South Dakota, North Dakota, that's the two power bases of MAGA.
Your House representatives, with a few exceptions, Are generally bought and paid for by the establishment.
Now, why is that?
Because they tell you one thing back home when they're running, and that's one of the reasons they try to take Donald Trump's endorsement.
They figure that can keep him from getting primaried from the right.
For me, you gotta think about this.
So help me out here, because my head blew up last night.
Is Jim Jordan saying that we're already going to have another CR?
1% cuts, nothing.
What do you mean 1% cuts?
Is this the Jim Jordan we knew?
Jim Jordan is one of the greatest warriors we've had in Congress.
At the beginning of the House Freedom Caucus and all that.
Now, I don't know recently.
First off, the motion of vacate.
Don't give me happy talk.
That's one of the things we're going to get to in 2018.
Dude, you're giving me mumbo jumbo.
You're giving me mumbo jumbo.
You're going to break down on a wrestling break.
We're not doing that.
Let's be very clear.
The motion to vacate is non-negotiable.
Suck on that.
Why?
That's Damocles' sword the audience has.
This audience has.
And they got a hand on it.
They got two hands on that handle.
They got a grip on that handle.
They don't want to give it up.
And they're not going to give it up.
And then, you're already prepping me.
Why in the hell aren't you guys back here right now working?
Don't tell me I'm supposed to get the hell back here and get to work.
What the hell are you doing back home?
You're one of the leaders.
Step up in there.
Get the guy with the bow tie and have him, hey, blow the whistle.
Get him on the plane and get him back here today and let's get to work.
I don't want to hear I'm already being sold another CR, but, but, but...
There could be 1%... He's talking about next year!
This was the moderate CR, remember?
We talked about the moderate CR?
Does the date 11 January of 2024 ring a bell?
That's what he's talking about?
You're already selling... You're selling me something worse than an Omnibus!
This is going to go on forever!
Is this your pitch?
Is this the pitch to MAGA?
That's your pitch.
I get him to get another CR and no motion to vacate.
Another CR.
I'm gonna give you the quick answer.
And why is Bill Arkin, why is Bill Arkin of Newsweek, you gotta help me out here man, my head's blowing up.
Why is Bill Arkin coming up with something that your committee should have broken on the weaponization?
On the weaponization, it certainly looks to me, Posovic, am I way off base here?
Does that kind of look like the mandate of the weaponization committee maybe should have had some investigations and gotten some people up there and grilled some people and found out about this secret unit that is targeting this audience, sir?
jack posobiec
Steve, I said this on my show yesterday, I'll put it out, I put it out last night as well, that Jim Jordan, he's been a great warrior, that's true, talks a big game, but the issue that I hear that a lot of people have with him, the issue that I still am concerned about is it seems a little light in the deliverables.
Why do I gotta go to Newsweek to find out that there's an FBI unit that's targeting me and my family?
Why do I gotta go to Atlantic Magazine and these whistleblowers from these other areas to find That because we go to a church that prays in Latin, that we're getting put on lists.
Because we have a rosary that we pray every day, we're getting put on lists.
So that's why I've said, here's what I'm calling for.
Put, you know, so if Jordan goes in, if he wants to go in, Tell us that you'll put Matt Gaetz as the head of the Weaponization Committee so we actually have someone up there who understands what this government is doing.
Steve, Biden talked about a dark winter last year.
You remember that?
The dark winter?
You know what they're setting up for us this year?
This year, they're setting us up for the red winter.
And I'm not talking about Republican red.
I'm talking about the other kind of red.
I'm talking about the old kind of red.
I'm talking about Mao red.
I'm talking about Stalin red.
That's the red winter that is coming for everybody that's in this audience, that everybody, the people who donate to the campaigns, they get the text messages, they go to the rallies, they listen to the war room, they listen to human events, they talk about that.
We've got Dinesh D'Souza on.
He's got the Police State movie coming out.
He's going to be talking about that later today.
Steve, we are headed to this.
Because all of this has happened before, and all of this is happening again.
You want to talk about us being in the fourth turning?
I call it the churn.
We are now in the churn.
So if you're up there talking like it's business as usual, talking about, oh, we just need to put together a balanced budget, we're going to do this, and some term limits.
No.
Meet the moment.
Meet the moment and understand.
When I've got Joe Biden up there saying that MAGA extremists are the target, and he doesn't need to give the order, he gave you the speech!
He already gave you the speech doesn't need to write down the order of the speeches right there Target the MAGA extremists and what is the new NKVD do?
What do they do then they set up the secret unit then Hillary Clinton comes out and gives you the next level She's auditioning for the head of the People's Commissariat.
That's what she's doing said I'm gonna put them all in camps like the Uyghurs That's what she wants She so please explain to me. Please let me see a little bit of fire in the belly So don't say also a little bit. She she she's Ilsa she will for the SS, right?
steve bannon
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Jack Posobiec, before I let you go, given your professional career in being in the intelligence community overseas and speaking Mandarin, understanding the mentality of the communists, when you hear formal deprogramming effort or send them to a formal deprogramming center, Coming from someone who was a U.S.
Senator, wife of a president, a candidate for president, one of the most prominent globalists in the nation's history, what does that strike you when you say formal deprogramming centers?
jack posobiec
Look, I'm just gonna say it.
Have you had the conversation with your family yet?
Have you sat down with your wife?
Have you sat down With your children if they're old enough to understand and had that conversation of what happens when you get the knock on the door.
What happens when you get the knock at the door when you see the flashing lights outside when you see the guy standing there with the sunglasses with the badges saying we're looking for you and you need to come with us.
We saw what they did to the 300 pound guy out in Utah.
Alright, the no knock raid.
That was a message.
unidentified
That was a show of force.
jack posobiec
So I've had that talk with my family.
And I've said straight up, look, if it gets that bad, so be it.
But I'm never going to stop fighting.
And I'm not afraid.
I'm not scared.
I'm not worried about what's going to happen to me.
You know why?
Because I've made my peace with God.
And one day I'll go to meet him and I'm ready for that.
And I don't know if any of these people are, but I know that I am.
And I'm not scared of that.
I'm not scared for one second to stand before God, because I'll stand right there.
And the first thing I'll do is kneel.
But I'm not scared of that meeting.
So, let's go.
Let's go.
Have the conversation.
steve bannon
Have the conversation.
jack posobiec
But I'll say this from the political sense.
We need to understand how upset and how anxious and how concerned the people of this base are.
I would say this to Scalise, to Jordan, to anybody who wants to be speaker.
Meet the moment, sir.
Meet the moment and understand what the people of this country are being put under.
And I don't want to hear you up there talking about, oh, the budget, the budget, oh, the money for Ukraine.
No.
What are you going to do for the people of this country that are facing a weaponized government that is coming to your front door in the middle of the night?
steve bannon
And you've had 10 months and you've done nothing.
Jack Posobiec, social media, the show, all of it.
Where do people go?
jack posobiec
Yeah, we're going to be up on Human Events immediately after Charlie Kirk today.
We've got Dinesh D'Souza on.
And funny enough, Steve, we're talking about the rise of the American police state.
Talking about a guy who's already been put in jail.
So Dinesh has his sentence.
Steve, you're getting yours soon.
I wonder how much I'm going to get.
I don't know, man.
I'm thinking six months, maybe four, six years.
All I know is my job in the Gulags, I'll be teaching the Mandarin classes so that we can communicate with the guards.
Everybody get your Gulag job.
You're unique.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Thanks for doing this.
Thanks for sticking around.
You took a lot of time away from the family.
Thank you so much.
Pattern recognition.
I've got Raheem.
We have Natalie.
We have Dave Brat.
All coming.
unidentified
He's the victim.
By the way, let us just say, I just want everybody to know, we've never used Mr. Pillow's pillows or slippers.
No, they're lumpy.
mike lindell
No, they're not lumpy pillows.
That's not what they call on.
unidentified
Maybe they're the best in the world.
We just hear they're lumpy.
mike lindell
When you say lumpy pillows, now you're an a**hole.
You got that?
unidentified
People say, Willie.
People say they're lumpy.
Go ahead.
mike lindell
No, I'm pissed.
unidentified
I understand.
It's like you're in Atkins Hiking, the Appalachian Trail, and that's what some people say.
Many people are saying, yeah.
Many people are saying that.
mike lindell
Good one, though.
unidentified
You done?
Yeah, I'm done.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell joins us.
Mike, Morning Mika took you on this morning, you and your lumpy pillows.
That was, I want to thank the team in Denver, able to put that compilation together.
Mike Lindell, from his previous depositions, respond.
What do you have to say to Morning Mika, who are all over you today, and kind of dancing on your grave?
mike lindell
They're disgusting.
She's disgusting.
He's disgusting.
Where does it end?
I mean, these guys are sitting there.
Wait till we get this country back and then they can make their apology to the rest of the world, what scumbag reporters and journalists they really are.
They piled on yesterday, Steve.
I did 22 interviews yesterday, everywhere from CNN to the Washington Post to the New York Times, MSNBC, ABC, CBS.
I said, you guys only call when you want to pile on, huh?
It's disgusting.
You know, it's, we're going to win.
God wins in the end.
And, you know, it backfires on them all the time.
The bird's getting out now.
steve bannon
So the key is the people that run your phone operations, the people on the factory floor.
That's what matters.
And the only way we're going to take the smirk off Amika's face is a robust, urgent, productive, my pillow.
That's what it simply comes down to.
So how are we going to do that?
Tell me what people have to do.
What does this audience have to do to have the factory workers, the people on the phones are coming after.
mike lindell
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They said it again this morning, Steve.
Yesterday, everyone was calling them from the war room, and they're saying, hey, we're behind you 100%.
you 100% and they were really, it was amazing the people that called in from the war room.
But all these specials, we want There's no middlemen, everybody.
They've cut us out of all that.
These box stores are gone.
Shopping channels gone.
You've got networks I used to advertise on.
You've just seen it there.
They're gone.
They want my pillow gone because they want Mike Lindell's voice gone.
And I'll tell you, we're not going anywhere.
I will never stop speaking out to secure our election platforms and help save our country.
And so all of you take advantage of this.
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steve bannon
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mike lindell
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steve bannon
Okay, and I want, I'm just gonna, you know, a short answer, but I'm just gonna lay out the facts as they're out there.
The, uh, machine companies have been winning.
They had almost a billion dollar settlement with Fox.
Uh, your lawyers have quit.
Um, are you going to, uh, settle, withdraw in the town, settle with the, uh, with the machine companies?
mike lindell
Yeah, I'm going to settle, alright.
Their settlement will be if they melt down all their machines and turn them into prison bars, I'll let them off the hook, maybe, so we can secure our election platforms.
There's the deal.
They all should be put in prison on what they've done to our country.
So there's no deal.
unidentified
Ever.
steve bannon
Mike Lindell, thank you very much for joining us.
Look forward to having you on the afternoon show, sir.
mike lindell
Yep, thank you.
steve bannon
Keep that facility at full capacity.
In Islam, the ends do not justify the means.
This idea is totally alien to Islam.
In Islam, what is halal is halal, what is haram is haram.
We do not bend our law, our morality, for our short-term aims.
someone who knows pattern recognition. Rahim Kassam, let's do it.
unidentified
Justify the means. This idea is totally alien to Islam. In Islam what is halal is halal, what is haram is haram. We do not bend our law, our morality for our short term aims.
Never. And we never lose the moral high ground.
If we know anything about the Shia of Muhammad, the Shia of Ali, the Shia of Hassan, the Shia of Hussain, we know that keeping the moral high ground is key.
Once we lose the moral high ground, we are no different from the rest of the non-Muslims, from the rest of those human beings who live their lives as animals, bending any rule to fulfill any desire.
Once we do that, we are lost.
In Islam, to believe is to know.
To disbelieve is not to know.
That is what it fundamentally comes down to.
It is to remain ignorant.
To cover up knowledge.
After all, what is skaka?
Skaka comes from the root word, which means to cover up it.
To conceal.
The skaka is the one who covers up that knowledge which is clear.
The French orientalist scholar Lamens, he once wrote that the Qur'an is not far from considering unbelief, disbelief as an infirmity, as an illness, as a disease of the human mind.
Subhanallah!
non-Muslims pointed out to us.
And of course the cossacks, the disbelievers, the agents of the Romanians...
steve bannon
Before that, but, why is this, they're on Trump about this, why is this important to what you just put together and showed us?
raheem kassam
Well Steve, what we showed there was people now know as MSNBC's Mehdi Hassan and MSNBC's Mehdi Hassan He's been freaking out about my interview with Donald Trump from a couple of weeks ago.
He has been freaking out to the point where the New York Times and his other colleagues at MSNBC have followed suit.
Snopes.com has also called some of what the president said in that interview, which I know so many people have watched, He called it Hitlerian in tone, which is bizarre.
But I wanted to give the audience there a little taste of who Mehdi Hassan was before he came to the United States.
That was the Mehdi Hassan that used to run around following me and reporting on me back in the United Kingdom.
And we unearthed those videos of him saying that non-Muslims are like cattle, non-Muslims are like animals.
There is plenty more of it out there on the internet for people to see.
He very quickly tried to scrub so much of this from the internet and now he goes around on MSNBC calling Donald Trump an extremist.
So I just wanted to shove that back in Mehdi Hassan's face and let him know that we haven't forgot from 10 plus years ago the things that he was screaming in the mosques of London.
But the wider point here The topic specifically that they take issue with is Donald Trump saying that there is a poisoning of the blood in the country in the United States as a result of the porous open southern border.
Now, they have said that in Mein Kampf, Hitler said that there was a poisoning of the blood in Germany.
Specifically, if you go and read Mein Kampf, he's speaking about Jewish journalists, which is obviously not what President Trump was talking about.
President Trump was talking about the fentanyl coming over the border.
President Trump was talking about the communicable disease that's coming over the border, and he wasn't unspecific about it.
The interview itself, he actually spells it out very clearly that he's talking about these things when he talks about the poisoning of the blood of the country.
But nevertheless, the New York Times, the paper of record, which, you know, the ultimate irony being that the New York Times in 1941 actually completely posted two-page spreads of Mein Kampf uncritically on their pages.
The New York Times is saying, oh no, you can't say poisoning of the blood of the country because once upon a time, Adolf Hitler said something very similar to that on a topic completely unrelated.
Well listen, Steve, this audience should know, and I think I'm quoting Senator Barroso when I say this, that you could fill an Amtrak train every other day and crash it, and the number of people dead, if everybody died on that train, That would be the number of people that die from fentanyl every other day in the United States at the moment.
So that is what Donald Trump was talking about.
Meanwhile, the far-left media is having an absolute meltdown about it.
And good.
steve bannon
It was an amazing interview.
I tell you, Rahim, if you can just hang on for a minute.
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unidentified
Rahim on the other side.
steve bannon
Okay Rahim, I'm gonna um...
I'm gonna um...
give you a confession here on live TV.
Thank you.
As you have a unique perspective and are one of the most astute political people, a lot of people maybe in the audience don't know, Rahim was the wingman for Nigel and actually led The most important political movement, I think, in the world, next to and really the forerunner to the MAGA movement here in the United States, in the America First, in the Trump movement, when they won Brexit.
Rahim was the body man for that.
So Rahim is not just a commentator, an analysis, a writer.
When I hired him years ago, over a decade ago, to Breitbart, I knew he was a young man that understood and could take action.
I've kind of got, Mehdi Hassam is a very smart guy.
I mean, I watch his show because he's got a student house.
I don't agree with anything he says, but he's very, very, very smart.
But that being the case, Rahim, we're not talking about ancient history here.
This was the lived experience of Bannon and Rahim Hassam in London fighting for Brexit I mean this is recent stuff, right?
This outright hate of anybody that's not Muslim, sir?
raheem kassam
Yeah, I mean it's something that he's...
The weird thing about Mehdi Hassan is that he was the political editor of a magazine called the New Statesman, and at some point in time, they parted ways.
And I suspect it was because of this that they parted ways.
And that's when he joined the Huffington Post, and then he joined Al Jazeera, of course, you know, the Qatari political uh... mouthpiece and and you didn't see him being moved into the mainstream uh... here in the united states via msnbc it's very bizarre because this is that would address by msnbc is that were just by huffington post i think i think a couple of years ago many has on the sauce about it he said all you know i said some dumb things in
Some dumb things?
I mean, you're condemning to hell everybody that is not a Muslim.
That is Islamic extremism.
That is the propagation of Islamic extremism, the definition to which we have known it, you know, throughout the global war on terror.
That entire time in history, Mehdi Hassan should have and would have been called an Islamic hate preacher and should have been treated like that.
And he is now a lead anchor on MSNBC.
That is the person that we're talking about here.
steve bannon
Hang on, the reason I watch him, he's one of the ones that has absolutely targeted the MAGA movement.
This whole show has been about targeting the MAGA movement.
He is the leader in this whole domestic, these are domestic terrorists.
That's interesting, how did the advertisers, I imagine the advertisers are quite uncomfortable with his recent background as a hate monger against all non-Muslims.
I take it they're very uncomfortable?
Would that be correct?
raheem kassam
Well, they should be.
They should be.
But not a peep from big corporate advertising on MSNBC about this.
Nothing.
What we need to talk about is the projection he's doing here, because he's ready to hurl around, oh, this guy's intolerant, this guy's Hitler, these people, you know, this cadre of listless vessels or deplorables or whatever you want to call them, are the domestic extremists and need to be treated as such.
Meanwhile, meanwhile, in the not so distant past, Mehdi Hassan was proselytizing in mosques around the United Kingdom, telling people that they need to reject non-Muslims as cattle, as animals, and saying that they have no moral standard. He said in that clip that we played that only Islam, only Muslims have moral high ground.
So I want answers out of MSNBC on this.
I want answers out.
I mean, where are the, where are the, you know, check my ads people?
Where are the sleeping giants people?
Are they going off to the corporate advertisers on MSNBC and saying, hey, by the way, you've got, you've got basically a crazy hook handed cleric on your network.
unidentified
Okay.
Like maybe we have to have a conversation about that.
steve bannon
Rahim, where's the Southern Poverty Law Center?
Shouldn't they be all over this?
I thought they were the, I thought they were, they hold themselves out to be, you know, the group hug.
Maybe we ought to check in with him.
This story is quite important, Rahim, given everything of the targeting of MAGA by Hillary Clinton, you know, the formal programming camps.
How did we get to your, the great interview plus everything else National Pulse is putting up, because you guys are a must read and my first read every morning.
raheem kassam
Yeah, everything is over at thenationalpulse.com.
You want to go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash upgrade.
The New York Times is after us today.
Snopes is after us today.
MSNBC is after us today.
The crazy hook-handed cleric Medhi Hassan is always after us.
We need people to join up at thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room.
You can do that today and support our important work.
Download the app too.
Don't forget the app.
unidentified
We're always first with the breaking news.
steve bannon
If you realize the pressure and the hate that came at Raheem and the death threats and all that, I mean, Raheem Kassam is a, from all the work that you did for all those years, Raheem, a true hero.
Once again, what's the social media?
raheem kassam
It fuels me.
And those are mostly from Steve, by the way.
And it fuels me.
steve bannon
Being a Grundoon.
Being a Grundoon.
Always good training.
Raheem, what's the social media?
Once again, where do they get National Pulse?
raheem kassam
Yeah, so we're at The Nat Pulse on X, at Raheem Kassam on all of the platforms, and you can watch the YouTube interview, Rumble interview, it's up on X as well, and thenationalpulse.com.
Do upgrade, do join us.
steve bannon
Everybody go and join.
National Pulse is a must-read.
By the way, Mehdi Hassam, I think, is ready for a struggle session.
Rahim, I'll call you after the show.
We'll check in.
raheem kassam
We'll get to it.
steve bannon
Yeah, it's unacceptable.
All the advertisers, all the big pharma, it's unacceptable.
Just not acceptable.
He's a very smart guy, don't get me wrong.
They're drawing incoming today.
Let's get Natalie G. Winters.
Natalie, here's the thing.
A nice young woman from a terrific family, well-educated, University of Chicago, making her way in the world, and, you know, you're sitting there exposing corruption, exposing infiltration, exposing the double-dealing of the American people every day, putting up stories with the receipts.
Why are you drawing incoming hate?
From members of Congress and their associated allies, ma'am?
natalie winters
I think we're good now.
I was going to say I think we're just over the target.
You're, of course, referencing the fact that Democratic Congresswoman, who is one of the highest ranking, if not, I believe, the ranking member on the Appropriations Committee for Congress, specifically the Defense Appropriations and Energy, which will tie into the story that we published today, called me a pawn of Putin last night for the story that we published and discussed on your show talking about the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council, which of course is this swampy, D.C.-based group that not only represents interests of the
Ukraine government, but of its several hundred member companies.
You got Boeing, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, all these defense industry giants, but seemingly the same people who are pushing for more aid to Ukraine, of which Representative Captor has been one of the leading voices.
And I don't honestly, Steve, even know how this is legal, but she is listed as a strategic advisor to the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council.
So she, like I said, called me a Putin pawn.
She also, and this is how you know you've really made it and you've touched a nerve, because they deployed Alexander Vindman of impeachment fame to also attack me too and say my story was inaccurate.
But I think the funniest part of the Vindman quote tweet is that he actually spells Ukraine wrong when he's telling me that we need to send more aid to Ukraine.
So you should either learn how to spell Ukraine first before you lecture us on why we need to send them billions of dollars, or maybe it was a Freudian slip and he's tacitly admitting that, well, aid to Ukraine is actually not going to Ukraine.
Maybe that's the code name that they're using for their money laundering operation.
But as you know, you shouldn't make an enemy out of me because we just published a story today on warroom.org.
Actually, believe it or not, linking this U.S.-Ukraine Business Council to Hunter Biden and Burisma.
Now, people need to go to warren.org to read the story, but I'll give you just one of the, I think, the most damning pieces of evidence that I uncovered.
This is documents that were obtained by the House Ways and Means Committee.
And believe it or not, back in 2016, when Biden Family Business Associate had a string of D.C.
meetings representing Burisma, Believe it or not, they met with Representative Marcy Kaptur on the same exact day that the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council held a roundtable, held a joint event with one of Burisma's executives where they discussed Ukraine's energy future.
And you can see on the screen right now, do you know who they met with after that roundtable?
None other than Hunter Biden.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
First of all, they don't know what they've gotten themselves into.
When Natalie Winters, when they call and say, Miss Winters on line two, your life's about to change, not for the better.
But I got to go back and I want to get all this up and the information because you're into it.
Correct me if I'm wrong on Vindman.
Didn't they just expose him a couple of months ago, he's on MSNBC all the time, he's out there making these, you gotta support Ukraine, didn't they say that he had all these shady, he's got these companies and advisory strategic partnerships, that he's making money hand over fist on this whole money laundering operation into Ukraine?
natalie winters
Yes, Steve, and that's precisely the point.
And I think the fact that he went into full defense mode over the U.S.-Ukraine Business Council probably suggests that he's somehow tied in with them, too.
But this goes to the original story we published, which, like I said, proves that we're over the target.
All of these voices that you've heard in the mainstream press calling for more Ukraine aid, even saying outlandish things, calling peace talks counterproductive and damaging.
That's a direct quote.
And again, they're making these chorus of calls in the New York Times, in the Washington Post, in the Atlantic.
They're all strategic advisors to this swampy lobbying firm.
Or take the case of Jim Moran, these former Democratic congressmen turned Ukraine lobbyists.
It's just like the Chinese Communist Party issue.
It's just like any issue.
They pretend to be neutral arbiters of the truth, of the facts.
They're as corrupt as the fact checkers.
In reality, if you follow the money, all roads lead to very conflicted interests with whether the Ukraine government itself, the defense industry, the people who are benefiting from these aid packages, or just some good old political blackmail in the form of Hunter Biden and Burisma.
It shouldn't be lost on anyone.
But the same day that Devin Archer is meeting with Representative Marcy Kaptur, who, like I said, I don't even know how it's legal that she could be advising a company that represents the defense industry and the Ukrainian government.
How's that for a fair violation?
But then he's going on to meet with Hunter Biden and hold joint events between the Ukraine Business Council and Burisma executives.
Meanwhile, years later she's literally writing letters to Zelensky demanding that he open up Ukraine to more foreign direct investment in their energy sector.
This is corruption at its finest and they've just never been held to account.
steve bannon
This is how on the lead story in the paper record the New York Times you see this the headline GOP resistance to aid in Ukraine Expands in the house litmus test for the right.
It's because of the reporting of a Big part of that's the reporting of our own Natalie Winters to expose the corruption.
You can't hide this anymore It's out in the open and she's field stripping this Natalie.
Where do people go to get all your reporting all your investigative?
unidentified
analysis Social media all of it where they go Well, Putin's pawn can be found at Natalie G. Winters on all social media platforms.
steve bannon
Natalie, thank you so much.
Thank you for the work and thank you for carving out time today.
Jump on.
I'm going to have Brad up.
Brad's going to be in the next block.
We've got to deal with the other story.
Big surprise to The New York Times.
With rates poised to stay high, new fears of soaring U.S.
debt.
Is it a new fear to you?
You Kulaks, you the foundational, as Rahim told me, the little platoons, I think it's Burke, the little platoons.
You're the civic society.
You're the underpinnings of American culture, society, our civilization, our nation.
You, this audience, you.
Is it a new fear to you, New York Times, all these smart people?
You're bettors.
This is the paper for your bettors.
That's a paper of the Upper West Side, that's a paper of the Upper East Side, but more importantly, this is the National Edition.
You see that up in the column?
That's National Edition.
All the elites throughout the nation read this.
From L.A.
to San Francisco, and all the elites in the world read it.
From Singapore to India to Beijing, Sub-Saharan Africa, all the BRICS nations, this is their paper.
They get it all for that in the Financial Times of London.
Is it a new fear?
Homie, don't think so.
Short commercial break.
Brat joins us on the other side.
Yeah, this Mehdi Hassan thing has got, you know, because Rahim and I have a lot of work together over in London prior to Brexit.
I almost decamped over there for a while when we launched Breitbart London.
And Breitbart London, as Nigel said, was instrumental in the Brexit movement.
And Rahim was the wingman.
And he's got a lot of tangled a lot of times with Mehdi Hassan.
So we got to drill down on that.
There's something not right with that.
We got to delve into that situation, find out why all these pharmaceutical companies and all these Car companies and, you know, what their thoughts on this are.
Because this is recent, not too long ago, and he's number one.
He's number one in targeting the American working class as being fascist.
So this guy, we deal with this.
Brad, the paper of record, it's a big surprise to them that debt, literally the headline, with rates poised to stay high, new fears of soaring U.S.
unidentified
debt.
steve bannon
Is that a new fear for you, Brad?
Is that a new fear for this audience?
dave brat
I ran on it 10 years ago back in 2014.
The war room's been on it for about four years straight every day.
We got $50 trillion in debt in 10 years.
Not enough of the Congress folks mentioned that number.
I really wish they would.
The $2 trillion right now is bad enough, right, in extra spending, deficit spending.
The New York Times had so many glitches.
El-Erian, who has had a good track record of calling, says this is very disturbing, and he adds this to his call for a recession.
So we're getting all this economic good news, and yet the smartest guys in the room are saying the good news means a recession.
And then the New York Times also says, You know, something's going on with these global guys.
They're not snapping up treasuries like we thought.
They used to grab these for growth.
I don't know what they got to do with growth.
But that, of course, is linked to the BRICS.
and the competition as a global reserve currency to the United States.
The rest of the world is figuring out we're going to default and we're not going to pay back the $50 trillion, even the $33 trillion.
And we've gone over this.
Someone's going to take a haircut.
It's going to be the poor.
The rich never get a haircut.
All of it's reserved to the poor.
They're going to use inflation to do that.
They're going to try to stomp it out right now.
steve bannon
Or they think, remember as the interest rate goes up, the bond price, they're afraid.
Right now, Drudge had a link to it and they took it off.
The bond market is getting shredded.
Because the rates are going up, you've got the old bonds with the loan.
That's one of the things the world's thinking about is, hey, are they bribing me with enough if this thing keeps going?
Here's the calculation for the audience, because your audience, you're 10 times smarter than the New York Times.
The refinancing of the $8 trillion that EJ and Brad have been talking to and getting you smart on for the last couple of weeks, that's setting a floor, right?
That's going to set forth things that are going to explode.
You heard it here first.
The interest payment is going to blow through, I think, a trillion dollars this coming fiscal year.
You watch, I guess, the thing on the two trillion.
It's going to blow through, and it's going to be Armageddon.
Because you've got the law of large numbers now, Dave.
You see every day.
Two trillion has been added since the debt... Hey, Garrett Graves, in your financial model, And Patrick M. Henry's financial model, did you tell us it was going to be $2 trillion between May and October that was going to be added and had to be financed?
No, I don't think so.
I must have missed that pitch.
Brad, before I let you go on the capital market, I've been calling out the delegation to the U.S.
House of Representatives from the South.
And I'm a proud Southerner.
Why are they in the bag for the establishment, except for a few exceptions?
Why is the entire Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Commonwealth of Virginia, Commonwealth of Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and the great Republic of Texas, let's throw in Florida.
This is an exception.
Why is the entire South, the solid South, MAGA country, the burning white-hot base Of President Trump.
Why are all those delegates in the establishment camp?
What's the problem there?
dave brat
Well, there may not be any more.
The dam just broke if they didn't get the memo for the first time in decades.
And so the answer is because the cost of elections have gone up so much, right?
When I started running, a million was a lot.
Now it's 10 million if you're in a tough race.
They give the most liberal members of the conservative party 20 million.
I'm not exaggerating.
I sat in all these meetings, right?
The most liberal members of the conservative party get 20 million.
I get it if they're going to vote for good policy that's good for the average American.
But that in short is the answer.
And I just I had to look over at my screen again because I didn't want to misquote him.
But Rick Santelli, who I love right on the exchange floor, he said worst case scenario, seven years, the 10 year treasuries at 13 percent.
Because the bond vigilantes are starting to figure out what this inflation curse is going to cost us.
That was a day ago.
And Santelli's got a head on his shoulders.
steve bannon
Read that.
By the way, we're leaving with Billy Joe Shaver, Charlie Kirk's neck.
Read that quote again.
I got to get that.
Give me, because Santelli's my man.
Read it.
dave brat
Yeah.
He said, worst-case scenario, in quotes, where are the Treasury rates going to go?
Ten-year, I'd say.
In the next seven years, you should be able to see 13.5% or 14% on the ten-year Treasury.
And then he got another line of it.
Four horses of the apocalypse riding the bond vigilantes, and death is near.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Dave, real quickly, your social media.
We've got to bounce.
dave brat
Yep, yep.
Brad Economics on Getter.
I'll be posting the charts.
Keep the young scholars looking.
Come visit Liberty.
God bless everybody.
steve bannon
Okay, MAGA.
They're going to send you to a deprogramming.
You're the guarantors of our stability.
The little platoons.
Barks a little platoons.
Platoons.
Folks, think of what Santelli said.
If you're under 40 years old and you vote for this, you deserve everything coming to you.
Kirk next, Posobiec after that.
We're back here 5-7.
We will be on fire.
That, I can commit to you.
See you then.
Billy Joe Shaver.
Get thee behind me, Satan!
See you back here at five.
unidentified
See you next time.
Oh, shit!
Get thee behind me, Satan, for I command it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ
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