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Oct. 4, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3077: Neutering The Elite Of Their Power; Breaking Up The Cartel Of The Elite
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russ vought
06:05
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steve bannon
23:41
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boris epshteyn
04:09
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crom carmichael
02:39
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katy tur
01:47
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natalie winters
04:54
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jake tapper
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mitch mcconnell
00:42
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host Stephen K. Babb.
Good to be with you.
katy tur
I keep turning on my TV at night hoping this has all just been an elaborate lead-up to an infomercial.
Can't get the extreme party, a wing of your party, in check.
Can't pass legislation.
Can't keep a speaker.
unidentified
There's got to be a better way!
katy tur
Except it isn't an infomercial and there doesn't seem to be a better way because House Republicans have a governing majority so narrow it is doubtful there is anyone in the GOP who can get away with disregarding the most extreme elements of the party.
In other words, someone who can pass legislation without being held hostage by the likes of Matt Gaetz.
Like, say, a budget which is coming due in a quick 31 working days.
There is, of course, one option.
A coalition government led by someone dedicated to working with the middle.
Someone who can get votes from both parties, thereby neutering people like Matt Gaetz.
Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy sort of did that with the debt ceiling, then again over the weekend to pass the 45-day stopgap budget measure, succumbing to the reality of a divided government, which is that there is literally no passable legislation that is not bipartisan.
So why does that sound so crazy?
Even if Steve Scalise or Jim Jordan, who are both officially announced, are able to rise to the speakership, they too will learn that lesson.
The hard right may make demands, but the hard right cannot pass bills.
So what is the Republican Party to do?
Because there has got to be a better way.
So let us ask one of them.
An influential Republican lawmaker who Punchable News says will emerge as a power broker during all this drama.
jake tapper
Do you agree with Congressman McHenry's decision, he's the temporary Speaker, the Speaker of Potem, to put a pause on the week to let tensions settle?
katy tur
Jake, I'll be really candid.
unidentified
I think if we had stayed together in the meeting last night, I think that you would have seen fists thrown.
And I'm not being dramatic when I say that there is a lot of raw emotions right now.
I think it was best to let folks go back home, decompress a little bit, and then come back together.
mitch mcconnell
I have no advice to give to House Republicans except one.
I hope whoever the next speaker is gets rid of the motion to vacate.
I think it makes the Speaker's job impossible, and the American people expect us to have a functioning government.
steve bannon
Mitch, you're next in the hopper, bro.
The revolution's coming for all of it, coming for you next.
Maybe throw the RNC there, too.
What have you done, Mitch, except give us a financial and economic disaster and crisis?
Don't take it from me.
Check your 30-year mortgage at 8%.
Check your credit cards, your car loans, all that.
They're priced off the 10-year treasury, getting to 5%.
Check your credit cards that are maxed out, that you can barely make the monthly payments and keep them alive, at least somewhat.
60 to 70% of the American people Go paycheck to paycheck.
Paycheck to paycheck.
I want you to think about that.
And how they gap it, those paychecks, with credit cards.
Credit cards with an APR of 27% and that's going to go a lot higher.
How's the life for the working man and woman in this country?
An invasion, I mean an invasion of the Southern Border so bad that now New York City Eric Adams is heading down to the Darien Gap.
You got Pritzker and the radical communist mayor of Chicago is calling for Biden to do something?
The sanctuary cities?
Hey, how about this?
Sanctuary this, you asked for it, you got it.
No.
Today's a work day.
We had a big win yesterday, but you know what that means today?
Not much.
We got to win again, and again, and again, and again.
You're already seeing the swamp come around.
Mitch McConnell, well, you can't govern.
Dude, you don't govern.
You call that governing?
You're a collaborationist.
It's the reason the country's in a financial crisis.
It gets down to one thing, and one thing.
Of course, the woke and weaponized and all that, but it gets down to the scale of the money.
This is why they hate Gates, this is why they hate Nancy Mays, this is why they hate Birchett, and some of the things they've done at Fox News just revolting the way they have treated these heroes.
Revolting.
TV for stupid people is also TV for stupid people by mean people.
Nasty people.
This is what happens when you have foreign owners, people who are not Americans.
They have an organization that does not know how to treat Americans.
What Kill Me did today with Burchette, we'll play that later.
And remember, the number one thing in Graves, oh, we had to go.
And all these guys that come up, their nerves are very raw.
Dude, you got fired in front of the world.
You.
You and the little guy with the bow tie.
You made the debt deal.
You kowtowed to the donors.
You buried this country.
So guess what?
Suck on this.
You got fired.
Take it back to Louisiana.
Nobody up here cares.
You're powerless.
You screwed this country and now you're powerless.
And you and all the fat cats on K Street and Newt Gingrich and all, you know, people call the swamp, stop calling it a swamp, it's too comedic.
This is a plague.
This is a virus.
This is a bacillus.
We have to lance the boil and we have to drain the pus, that's what they are, they're pus.
You have to drain it.
Remember, they hate you.
Why they hate you?
You're standing up for your country and saying, you know, this is not going right.
I don't see the happy talk.
If you saw the presentation, did you see the presentation?
We're trying to cut this now so we can consolidate.
The presentation for McCarthy yesterday, that was their best shot to save his speakership.
It was one happy talk, RNC talking point after the other.
This has been the greatest achievement.
We passed all these messaging bills.
We've got real oversight.
Real oversight impeachment?
Are you kidding me?
You can't pull that over the American people's eyes anymore.
You definitely can't pull it over MAGA.
Russ Vogt, you've been one of the architects of this.
You have warned the nation what is happening and what's going to happen with these massive deficits that now have to be refinanced.
And you're seeing it in the 30-year mortgage, the long bond, the 10-year treasury, stock market burning down, bond market eviscerating people's savings.
Bonds are supposed to be safe, not so safe.
And the unrealized losses in bond markets, there's so many banks out there with their balance sheets have been blasted below the waterline.
We just don't see, it's gonna be like Silicon Valley Bank when they go under.
Russ Vogt, your thoughts of where we are, sir?
russ vought
We have so many existential crises facing us.
First and foremost, the woke and weaponized regime, the degree of spending in this country, and where we're going to go off the fiscal cliff if we don't change the way that we've done business for decades.
And the number of crises is not going to fit on two hands anymore, and we need a speaker That can use all of the leverage points at his disposal, or her disposal, and uses Republicans to pass bills and not Democrats.
You hear all this outcry all day long and yesterday about, oh my gosh, you guys relied on Democrat votes.
They don't, they rely on, the cartel relies on Democrat votes on every must pass piece of legislation.
They never think twice about it.
That's what has caused us to be bankrupt as a country.
That's what caused us to kick the can down right before Thanksgiving on this second major violation of the power-sharing agreement from earlier in the year.
So these members stood up strong.
They were incredibly brave.
And now I think we're going to have an opportunity to have real change in the House of Representatives.
It's going to be a dogfight, to your point, and they're going to come out at every opportunity to take away the rules that allow this.
And that is something that is central to every legislative body.
You're not a legislative body if you don't have a motion to vacate, I'm sorry.
That's how people speak in the democratic process.
That's how you ensure it doesn't happen behind closed doors.
So we're going to be in some really intense, critical days in the next few months.
steve bannon
This audience, and I want this audience to understand across the nation, this was your victory.
You delivered this victory.
Yes, the instrumentality was Matt Gaetz, and Andy Biggs, and Congressman Good, and the rest of this heroic eight, and even the 11 that got past the parliamentary procedure.
Can you explain right now, your intellectual construct is the cartel.
The cartels control this city.
We got these rules and had this fight in January to get the toolbox we needed to actually get our hands around this federal spending.
And then, and they never mentioned this on Fox, they went on the debt ceiling after retrading the deal that we okayed, that we hated.
They went and did a deal that is destroying this republic with Democrats.
Then they came back with Democrats on the CR also.
We had 70 votes against the first time on the death ceiling.
We had 92, I think, against on the CR.
The cartel is now in full combat mode.
Are they not, Russ Vought, looking to strike?
russ vought
They are, and that's one of the reasons why they wanted to recess for a week and to go home is so that they could regroup, that they could regain the air cover from the airwaves, not understanding of what just occurred.
I mean, they were counting on Democrats to bail Kevin McCarthy out because apparently Pelosi had promised that, which is why she then lost her office in retaliation.
It's cartel-on-cartel violence.
But the essence of the way this system works is to take Decisions away from the House floor, which you saw yesterday in such a historic fashion, and to ensure that goes behind closed doors, where a vote can't be appealed, because there's no debate.
It's not televised.
There's not an accounting for how a member votes.
That's what this town hates above all else.
And it's why when you watch the Senate, you don't see anyone in the chambers.
And when you typically watch the House, you see no one in the chambers.
That changed in January.
It changed yesterday.
And that's the sign of health in this country that we are turning the aircraft carrier slowly.
And it is thanks to this audience and to those members that went into the gap yesterday in a historic fashion.
steve bannon
2-0-2-2-2-5-3-1-2-1, make sure you give an attaboy to those that deserve it, and the what-for for those who don't.
Also, if Grace and Mo would put up, I think we sent links, or social media, to all of the sites of all the heroic eight.
Russ, I wanted to play that last one from Mitch McConnell, because Mitch McConnell's vote, the toolbox, in the search for the speaker, there's, and I want you to walk us through it, I'm going to keep you for a couple minutes on the other side of the break.
There's personalities, there's policies, there's also procedures and processes.
When Russ Vogt looks at the battle map now, of what MAGA has to do and what the War on Posse should be focused on, where are we?
russ vought
Well, I think heading into this conversation about who the next speaker is going to be incumbent to get beyond the personalities and to see what people's records have been and their appetite for being in the right kind of coalitional government.
You heard the NBC anchor, which why does NBC anchor care about Kevin McCarthy if he didn't represent the Uniparty?
But you heard her talk about coalitional government.
They're fine so long as it's with Democrats.
What we secured in January, what those brave 20 secured in January, was coalitional government with actual House conservatives.
And that needs to still be the goal, to be able to say, look, you know, if Steve Bannon is Speaker of the House, You want to be able to make sure that the rules of the place are geared towards the America First agenda and the best way to do that is to put folks on the Rules Committee that can use the tools and you have the motion to vacate to ensure that the Speaker can't override the rules at any time or go and do what he's done, Kevin McCarthy's done, and govern on key leverage points with Democrats.
Those really are the two central things and then you've got to have a Speaker that seizes every leverage point With discipline and boldness and intellectual capacity and goes after the Biden administration with every chance and every opportunity he's got because we got to save the country.
We don't have time and we don't have a lot of leverage points.
And so that's what I think the debate needs to be over the next several days.
steve bannon
Russ, can you hang on?
I know you gotta bounce, but we're taking a short commercial break.
We'll come back and we'll get you out before you gotta pounce.
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unidentified
We passed the strongest border bills in history.
Well, guess what?
Look at the border right now.
We didn't use sufficient leverage in the debt limit or in any other thing to actually get results on the border.
The border is a disaster.
Really something I don't think you're going to be campaigning on that you fix the border.
Second, you said you streamlined regulations.
What the gentleman from Louisiana doesn't tell you is that all of the regulatory reform he was just bragging about is waivable by the stroke of a pen.
Of someone in the Biden White House!
Do you really think you got anything for that?
It's a total joke.
And then finally, the welfare-to-work that the gentleman from Louisiana said we got.
The welfare programs that they said that they streamlined with their welfare-to-work stuff, they're actually going to grow!
Because while they did work requirements, they blew out those programs with expanded eligibility.
I'm real glad you guys didn't put work requirements on Medicaid.
It probably would have resulted in Medicaid expansion.
And when it comes to how those raise money, I take no lecture on asking patriotic Americans to weigh in and contribute to this fight, from those who would grovel and bend knee for the lobbyists and special interests who own our leadership, who have, oh, boo all you want, who have hollowed out this town and have borrowed against the future of our future generations.
I'll be happy.
to fund my political operation through the work of hard-working Americans, ten and twenty and thirty dollars at a time, and you all keep showing up at the lobbyist fundraisers and see how that goes for you.
I reserve.
steve bannon
One of the most dramatic moments, I think, in the history of the House of Representatives that led to the first time in history, the defeat, the removal from office of a sitting Speaker of the House.
Matt Gaetz, I'm telling you, you read the history books and hear about the 19th century great orators, Daniel Webster, Gaetz is pound for pound as good as anybody we've ever had in the House of Representatives.
He brought the fire yesterday and he won.
Russ Vought, they booed, they got angry because he described the cartel, he described the scab that's got to be ripped off and the pus that has to be drained.
Did he not, sir?
unidentified
He did.
russ vought
And when you're a cartel buster, you get the vitriol.
You get everything coming at you.
And they want to go after him for not relying on the financial donations that come from this town.
And he's taken a very, very public and bright line and said, I'm not going to do it the way that you guys have done it.
I'm going to rely on the American people who put me in office and care greatly about the direction of this country.
And you bet I'm going to let them know that I'm in a fight of all fights against the cartel in this town.
And so he shouldn't take a backseat to anybody on that question and any of the others that have been fighting this town for so long.
But I think that the next several days, like I said, are going to be critical.
This is now going to be about the conversation about how the House is run and who the speaker should be.
And I think it's going to be incumbent on the people who watch this program to hold members to an account to make sure that they insist that the House is run differently and that you don't have the same swapping out someone from the same leadership team.
I have a lot of concerns with With Steve Scalise, and even though this is not the time for an endorsement, swapping out the one member of the current leadership team for another is not paradigm shifting results to be able to ensure that we can save the country with every leverage point to battle the Biden regime.
And I think that's the conversation that needs to occur over the next several days.
And to beat back these nonsense arguments about how Matt Gaetz and the eight were in it for themselves, or they just did this for fundraising.
No, they did this to save the country.
And there's a lot more of them who were not with them on that vote who want to save this country and change the way this House does business.
And that's the debate that's going to happen over the next week.
steve bannon
I remember one of the biggest parties, I want to break some news here, they're thinking of dropping an expulsion from the Republican conference of Matt Gaetz on Tuesday or Wednesday when they get back.
This is what they're spending their time on.
They get everybody out of town so they can work with K Street because you punched them in the mouth yesterday.
And they got a standing A count.
They're not happy.
They're working, and here's what they're going to do.
The heroes that did this, they're saying they're going to get payback.
So we are going to stand in the breach and make sure there's no payback.
If there's going to be payback, there's going to be come retribution.
Russ Vogt, we're in a fight now.
They're mad.
They lost the first round, a big round, a historic round, but there's a lot more rounds to go.
Russ, where do people go to get you on social media?
Where do they go to get you over at CRA?
russ vought
At Russ, vote on all the social media channels and they can get our website at atamericarenewing.com.
We welcome you following us throughout these historic events.
steve bannon
They have been historic, Russ.
It's been quite a ride.
The 118th Congress.
This is going to go in the books.
Russ, thank you so much.
Honored to have you on here.
unidentified
You too, Steve.
steve bannon
For the audience, this is your victory.
This was your victory.
And it's only going to get tougher from here.
It's only going to get tougher from here.
They're going to try to change the rules here.
Mitch McConnell, God, take out motion to vacate.
Nobody can govern that way.
Hey, we don't want to govern like you're governor of the Senate.
You people are disgusting.
You're revolting.
You're collaborationist.
You're quizlings.
You have helped destroy this country and all the senators have voted for that stuff.
All of them.
Your collaborations.
Everybody that voted for these Biden bills that are destroying the country, adding to the debt, you're the problem.
Because you were elected by people that don't want to do that.
You betrayed your voters to play to the MSNBCs and the Washington Post and go to the cocktail parties in Georgetown to be able to hang out and have, you know, had the media rub up on you.
Right?
That's where you did it.
It's human nature, but you're not, you campaign on being fighters and all you are is a bunch of, and, and, and the house guys are coming up, they're saying, the emotions were so raw yesterday.
We need to go home and, and really to think through it.
And dude, come on, man.
What are you, beta males?
Step the frick up and let's go to work.
You should have been at work last night.
They never should have left.
This is the problem.
Too many pencil necks, too many emotional whiny, Whiny, Graves, all you guys are whiny.
By the way, Graves and Henry, just understand something.
You got fired on national television last night.
You got fired on national television.
You'll never have the stroke you had with McCarthy.
You got fired on national television.
Why did you get fired on national television?
You got fired on national television because you betrayed this country.
You sold this country out for your frickin' donors.
And everybody knows it, and we've rubbed your nose in it, and yesterday you got fired.
You're disgusting.
What you represent is disgusting and revolting.
And the people that make this country, the hard-working Americans, that go about their daily life, that watch this show, or listen to the podcast, have had a belly full of it.
They've had a belly full of you guys.
They've had a belly full of you coming to the Imperial Capitol, enacting nothing but Democrat lights.
And for all the media that have your back, you're all in it together.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
You're all in it together.
And yesterday you lost, and you're going to lose every day going forward.
We're not going to win them all.
We're not going to win them all.
Is Boris up?
Boris Epstein?
Boris, the President of the United States, I want to go first to New York.
You've got, what, a gag order?
Is this direct election interference?
They're trying to liquidate the man's business.
Doesn't he have a First Amendment right?
Do you have an opinion about that, sir?
boris epshteyn
Steve, honor to be with you, honor to be with the audience.
The whole gambit, the whole conspiracy is election interference.
Everything across the board.
That's what it is.
It's election interference, start to bottom.
And President Trump, as you mentioned, has been exercising his First Amendment right extensively.
And that one order from the judge was actually very limited.
It was only specifically to the staff.
President Trump today coming out strongly and describing this attack exactly as what it is, a witch hunt and a hoax.
And the specific example that is one among many that couldn't be clearer is this Corrupt aging New York Tish James attempting to value gorgeous, historic, spectacular Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.
There's probably a parking spot there that's worth $18 million.
Okay, that is a location that is worth in the billions, at least.
And that there is a beautiful, shining example of just how corrupt our system of justice has become and how strong we need to fight against weaponization and targeting.
steve bannon
So that's direct election interference, like the rest of these charges are.
Yet, he's new polls a day, he's running away with the primary.
Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles came out and put a statement out, I think yesterday or the day before, about these phony primary... Everybody understands, as we said beforehand, the first two debates on Murdoch News, you remember the channel owned by the foreigners, the radical Globalist, Party of Davos, foreigners, that crowd, that family.
The first two to take Trump out were absolute flops.
Why are we having a third?
President Trump's senior advisor going out, why are we having a third debate?
Why is the RNC spending the small-dollar donors' money on this?
boris epshteyn
Well, Steve, that's a key question.
And a poll coming out just in the last few hours, Prime Minister's data poll, President Trump at 61. 61!
That is a humiliation of these pretenders.
So there doesn't need to be any more debates.
There don't need to be any more discussion.
not a primary, that is an annihilation. That is a humiliation of these pretenders. So there doesn't need to be any more debates, there don't need to be any more discussion. What we need to be doing now is to call nothing behind the only leader who could save our country, the only leader who could rebuild our border, the only leader who can bring back energy independence and dominance, President Donald J. Trump.
And the American people are speaking loud and clear.
steve bannon
By the way, Boris, if you can hang with us just for a couple of minutes, we're going to take a break.
When I come back, so there shouldn't be any third debate.
Trump, the numbers he's talking about, 66-24, I mean, this is not even, this is the mercy rule when you're playing with the kids softball, right?
This is a mercy rule.
It's over.
As we told you, the primary's over.
This should all be, RNC should pivot every possible penny and resource.
Should be in election integrity and making sure they can't steal it like they did in 2020.
Because that's what they're going to do.
That's what we're going to have to do.
McLaughlin's predicting a potential landslide.
Hell, we had a landslide in 2020.
We didn't close on it.
boris epshteyn
Why?
steve bannon
Because the RNC and others did not do the work.
When certain lawyers, I don't want to mention Mark Elias, but I mentioned Mark Elias, told us On the Transition Integrity Project, exactly what they're gonna do months in advance.
Short break.
Donald J. Trump is Speaker of the House of Representatives next.
mitch mcconnell
Give to House Republicans except one.
I hope whoever the next Speaker is gets rid of the motion to vacate.
I think it makes the Speaker's job Impossible.
And the American people expect us to have that.
steve bannon
Thanks, Mitch.
Yeah.
Thanks, Mitch.
You've done such a great job.
Let me take my number two pencil out and just write that down.
unidentified
Words of wisdom from him.
steve bannon
A collaborationist.
One thing he couldn't collaborate the other day, he got shocked.
Now he's going to be on here in a second and talk Ukraine and money in this imperial capital and the money laundering operation over in Ukraine.
Mitch McConnell was shocked.
He said on the CR he can't take it.
He says, no, you've got to attach six bait and Ukraine aid.
And the guys in the lunch who always kowtowed to him said, not going to happen, man.
Not going to happen.
Because these firebrands in the House, not one single penny more from Ukraine.
It's over.
We can't pay.
We can't afford what we got.
We're two train in the hole every year.
We're never... Boris, help me out here, brother.
I'm going to talk about Trumpism.
You're a finance guy.
Are we ever going to pay off one penny of the principal of the 33 train that keeps adding every day?
Or are we just going to be chasing a tail to figure out how to even pay the interest?
boris epshteyn
There's only one way to pay it off, Steve, and it's to bring President Trump back to the Oval Office.
to restore energy dominance and use our energy advantages to pay it down.
That is the only way to do it, and President Trump is the only person to do it.
If we continue following the Uniparty, following either the Democrats or the White House, you pick it.
That is absolutely impossible.
And what happened yesterday in the House of Representatives is a loud statement that we are not going to take it.
We're not going to allow for money that needs to be spent everywhere.
In D.C., in Newark, in Camden, all over East Palestine, Maui.
Money that has got to be spent in America has to be spent in America.
steve bannon
Boris, there's a meme out, if we can put it up, of President Trump with a speaker's gavel with the MAGA hat.
What's your assessment?
A number of congressmen have called for President Trump to be, I guess, an interim speaker for maybe 100 days, to step in, bring all parties together, make sure you get the investigations rolling, that we get through no more CRs, no more omnibus, but have a guy that knows how to negotiate, negotiate.
What's your sense of this?
boris epshteyn
Well, Steve, as President Trump said today, he's fully focused.
On winning the presidency and getting back to the Oval Office to save our country.
Fully focused.
Having said that, as he mentioned, if the Republican Party needs him, if the country needs him in a role where he can unite the Republican Party, unite the movement, and actually bring real solutions on the budget fight that's coming up now in 30, 40 days, as you mentioned, on the southern border and on our national security, all across the board, it's tough to think of anybody
Who is a stronger, more committed, more respected leader in the history of our country than President Donald J. Trump.
So it's not surprising that you're seeing Troy Nails, Greg Stubbe, others out there on this particular point.
As President Trump mentioned today, he is fully concentrating on the run for president, but he's willing to listen at the outpouring of support that he's getting and some of the requests that are coming in pretty hot and heavy.
steve bannon
Uh, by the way, MTG I think has already stated she will not, she will only vote for one person per speaker and that's Donald Trump.
Hey, it's pretty, it's a pretty tight, you get a couple of people coming in to say, hey, I'm only voting for this guy.
All of a sudden you have not a discussion, you have a negotiation.
Boris, where do people, you're coming in hot on the gram, how do they get?
Yeah, no, there's some serious people doing this.
So this is just not ephemeral.
There's something here.
And I think something here is that people are looking for a leader that, you know, his number one task and purpose is to retake the White House and to set this country on.
But on an interim basis, he needs to help out to bring not just the party, but the American people together.
President Trump, who's already returned from the plow, wants to do that.
boris epshteyn
And you're seeing it in all the polls.
President Trump is irrefutably and undisputably, absolutely, the only leader in American politics right now.
You're seeing it in every poll.
That's why he's dominating in the general election, dominating in the primary.
And so that is why all Americans, including members of Congress, are looking to President Trump for leadership.
steve bannon
Boris, what's the social media?
How do people follow you?
boris epshteyn
Steve, thanks so much.
Honored to be with you on The Posse.
I'm hot on the website, borisdp.com.
It always says hotborisdp.com.
Sign up right now.
Hot on Getter at Boris CP.
Twitter at Boris CP.
Hot on social at Boris.
I'm the hottest on the graph.
unidentified
Boris.
boris epshteyn
I'm the square up sign.
Stay strong.
God bless.
unidentified
And all awesome.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Okay, Russ Vogt mentioned it.
Boris mentioned it.
Jake Sherman's got a thing about the... Jake Sherman doing a good job over at Punchbowl, reporting on all this, all the intensity up on Capitol Hill, the Imperial Capitol.
The irony is, you know, they're saying, oh, you may need another CR when it comes to November.
unidentified
No.
steve bannon
They should have never gone home.
They should have been working on these bills right now.
But when they come back, they have to grind through this.
Right?
They have to grind through this.
You need to be part of this fight.
You've been a magnificent part.
This is your fight and you're winning this fight.
It's not a fight against Trump.
It's not a fight against Bannon.
It's not a fight even against Gates or Mace or anybody.
They are the instruments.
You are the power.
You're the motive force in back of this.
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Okay, Natalie, I want to bifurcate your appearance because I want to spend time, maybe in the six o'clock hour, get your assessment of this fight that you've been so in the middle of.
But I want to start with your new exclusive because it refers, it relates to my favorite topic.
White House, people associated with the White House, Ukraine, all of it.
What's the new exclusive you're breaking on War Room?
natalie winters
Well, I write these stories just for you, but I will say the Biden White House and the corrupt Ukraine grift makes it pretty darn easy.
The story today, people may recall blue star strategies, not just from the first impeachment of Donald J. Trump, but because in a lot of the Burisma investigations that Congress has been conducting, but also just general reporting, This is the swampy D.C.
lobbying firm that Hunter Biden is very closely tied to.
A lot of emails on the hard drive from hell showed that he was instrumental in getting Burisma to hire Blue Star Strategies to basically be their conduit, be their presence in Washington, D.C., to get the Ukrainian government to stop investigating them by using various points of leverage against Joe Biden, the Biden family, you name it.
So what is, I would say, Just again, make it make sense, extremely curious.
A group called Humanity for Freedom, very specific agenda with that name, but they focus their efforts on rescuing Ukrainian children.
And I'm sure the audience remembers Jack Posobiec's great reporting on this matter, where the issue of all the missing Ukrainian children, which people recall Zelensky, They hyped it up at the UN, saying that the Russian government was kidnapping these kids.
We're talking about tens of thousands of children.
But it interplays, I would say, very concerningly with what is, of course, Ukraine being the capital of human and child sex trafficking.
A lot of just yuckiness, right?
It's the globalists' basement and not the first level for a reason, and especially when it comes to children and child sex trafficking.
So what is so curious is that this group, like I said, the leading voice here in the United States that was founded by, just to make the story even better, a Hollywood director who's now leading the effort to rescue these so-called children, these missing children in Ukraine, the people that they hired in Washington, D.C.
to help them accomplish this agenda was none other than Blue Star Strategies.
in May of this year. That is the very same consulting firm that is tied to, I believe it was Hunter Biden, who just yesterday, the story was exposed that he was hiring, you know, prostitutes and escorts from a known sex trafficking ring. So it's, it's very curious.
But again, the Hunter Biden, you know, connection aside, it's just really weird.
And it goes back to the systemic issue with the Ukraine grift, which is that all of these D.C.
consulting firms, at least in this stage of the war, are trying to do this sort of charitable consulting for them with hopes of, on the other side of it, getting in, cashing in on the taxpayer-funded foreign aid to help rebuild Ukraine.
That's the euphemistic term they're using.
I'm sure they'll push for some sort of Marshall Plan.
And as you know all too well, taxpayers will socialize the funding of that, the risk of that, and people like the financiers and consultants over at Blue Star Strategies will get all the upside.
steve bannon
So you have to help me out here.
Yeah.
Nancy Mace was here this morning, she confirmed again, the file is that thick, she says, over at Treasury, on the SARS reports, on literally wires to hire the prostitutes, that we now know, and the Daily Mail I think broke the story, Natalie, that a lot of these women were sex trafficked, or there's allegations of sex trafficking going on, and she said, hey, this runs to millions of dollars.
She said millions of dollars, so then he tried to write her from taxes.
His associate at Blue Star, you're telling me that the people that purportedly are concerned about the child sex trafficking in Ukraine have a relationship with Blue Star Strategies, one of the firms close to a known, a guy that's been, you know, been accused by a member of Congress as spending millions of dollars in sex trafficking?
natalie winters
Yep, the leading group that is organizing all the, you know, nice sounding globalist organizations to help, as they say, rescue the children of Ukraine.
Like I said, I think it's the numbers about 60,000 or so allegedly missing children.
But like you said, the people that they hired to help them advocate in Washington, D.C.
To achieve this mission was Blue Star Strategies.
And for what it's worth, this group, Humanity for Freedom, which like I said, very innocuous sounding name, it really was just created this year.
I've looked into it.
There's no track record of who's funding it, what their actual agenda is, what it's going for.
It's one of these just sort of shady, I would argue, dark money groups where you can't really find out much about it.
And I would say the only decision that I've seen them make publicly because they are such a non-entity is that they hired probably one of the swampiest consulting firms in all of Washington, D.C. with ties to someone who is very closely linked to just disgusting sex trafficking operations emanating out of Eastern Europe and countries like Ukraine.
I think it really begs the question of what exactly is going on here.
And I will, of course, keep digging into it.
But, you know, they sort of play the same game with covid origins where they don't release any of the information and then say, well, you don't have a story.
steve bannon
I got about 90 seconds.
I'm going to hold you and get you back in the 6 o'clock show about your thoughts about what's transpired in the last couple of days.
But, you've been an expert in the last couple of years drilling down the CCP, connecting, going deep, deep, deep for the research.
Are you finding in this Ukraine situation, every day you come back and you're working on another story, you got, the American people put $120 billion in there already with no accounting.
They're going to put, and I'm hearing on Capitol Hill, wait for this folks, the Ukraine situation, they're going to come and try to jam now another at least 6 billion, maybe 24 billion here during this CR period.
Are you finding the same type of shady operations and kind of a bizarre thing?
We've got about 45 seconds as you go through your research.
natalie winters
Of course, I think there's actually more active Ukraine foreign agents than there are Chinese Communist Party ones, and that's a sentence that I never thought I'd say, but they're using the same tactics.
And just remember, it's not just that they're putting these consulting firms to get a bunch of money and do nothing.
They've admitted to hiring these foreign agents to help influence public opinion shape the debates on mainstream media all the way to social media, lobbying people, it goes all the way even to the RNC to get anti-Ukraine voices kicked off of these platforms.
So this is full-scale, really, warfare, information warfare.
It's what it is.
steve bannon
Yeah.
It's revolting.
And everybody that's stepping up on the conservative side and trying to push this Ukraine funding should be ashamed of themselves.
Natalie, we'll see you back in the 6 o'clock hour.
More about this and your thoughts on what happened over the last 24 hours.
Short break, back in the Worm in a moment.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the C.C.D.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, about the polling that came out of the Boer summit, Trump is beating Biden in a Quinnipiac poll.
Quinnipiac is a left-wing, hate Trump, Trump beating Biden in Pennsylvania right now.
Extraordinary.
Mike Lawler has told folks, I think over at Punchbowl, Mike Lawler is the beta male with the beard, always over on MSNBC whining.
You know, whining, got a pacifier in all the time.
Oh, don't, you can't say anything, Steve.
He's from a swing district.
Hey, dude, you gotta make, you gotta go to the people and explain what's going on and you'll win 60-40.
Mike Lawler over there is considering offering a motion to expel Matt Gaetz from the House Republican Conference next week.
I want you, I want that to settle in on, folks.
You saw it.
You saw what Gaetz did.
You've seen the leadership.
So Mike Lawler, the beta male, is going to consider offering a motion to expel you.
Bring it, dude.
And we say bring it, we will be able to handle it.
Not like McCarthy, former speaker, now backbencher.
It's a term, certain personalities, like backbencher.
McHenry, backbencher.
Graves, backbencher.
McCarthy, I don't know why McCarthy just doesn't resign in disgrace and let somebody else take the seat from Bakersfield.
Tom Emmer, a renowned never-Trumper, says he wants to be a majority leader.
I think people are going to have a problem with that.
I'm just opining, I'm not making an observation.
I think we don't need any never-Trumpers.
Trump is leading in the presidential race, and he's got, you know, I don't know, 20 criminal things against him for 9,000 years, and he's liquidating his business empire.
Why do you think they're trying to destroy him?
And he's leading in Pennsylvania.
He's leading in every poll.
He's leading in some polls, 66-24.
He's leading.
He's absolutely leading.
unidentified
They're trying to stop him.
steve bannon
Next hour, Philip Patrick's going to join us, get to Birch Gold.
In fact, maybe you should call and check out, talk to Philip Patrick's guys, ask about the central bank digital currency, what that means here in life, the Federal Reserve, and, wait for it, why gold is the number one purchase of the central banks of the BRICS nation.
Ask him what that means for your future.
Maybe you think about that too, when you think about an 8% 30-year mortgage.
How many of you can afford an 8% 30-year mortgage?
Fixed?
What do you think, what do you think the floatings are gonna be?
Think there's gonna be nice 10-year treasure, almost five?
Maybe people want Trump back, mean tweets and all, you think?
Maybe that's what you hear in Pennsylvania?
Mean tweets and all?
Were the tweets too hard for you?
Were they too mean?
Yeah?
Maybe you want him back?
Right now, people are going to him about being speaker, so we're going to see how this all plays out.
Carmichael.
The posse delivered a historic win.
You know, it's almost, it's just starting to sink in.
This audience, the war room posse, because of the backing of the 6, and the 8, and the 20, and the 70, and the 90, all across the board from January to today, the journey we've had in 2023, this audience took down a sitting Speaker of the House for the only time in American history.
The only time in American history.
Cromp Carmichael, they're at the ramparts.
These folks got the hearts of lions.
We just got to make sure they're healthy hearts of lions.
How are you going to help?
crom carmichael
Steve, thanks so much for having me out.
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steve bannon
Crom, thank you so much for the kind words about logic and for your searing logic when talking about helping the folks at the Lionhearts.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Next hour is going to be lit.
steve bannon
We've got Natalie's going to come back and join us.
I may have a couple of three tricks up my sleeve.
Never know.
Philip Patrick's going to join us from Birch Gold.
We're going to talk capital markets, how it impacts your life, what it means up here on Capitol Hill.
unidentified
As the K Street... What'd they call us today?
steve bannon
They called us vandals.
K Street called us vandals.
Billy Joe Shaver, get the behind-me Satan takes us out.
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