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Sept. 27, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
48:51
Episode 3058: Fiscal Insanity And Reckless Spending
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steve bannon
22:48
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chip roy
03:34
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dave brat
04:14
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oscar blue ramirez
04:01
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raheem kassam
04:59
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ralph norman
01:05
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abby phillip
00:34
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donald j trump
00:03
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jake tapper
00:08
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
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abby phillip
McCarthy just a few moments ago, an oppressor, said that it was a mistake for the Senate to include even more funding for Ukraine and he's dismissing that stopgap measure that they've put on the table.
He says that he's going to put forward a Republican bill with border provisions likely as soon as Friday and he's daring hardliners to vote against it.
What do you say to McCarthy tonight?
ralph norman
Well, I agree with what the Senate put forward with 6.5 billion for Ukraine, 5.2 billion, from what I understand, for disaster relief, and then the same spending through November 15th of this year, which is totally unacceptable, along with all the other spending that has been in place. So that's a complete dead on arrival, I hope, in the House.
As far as what Speaker McCarthy had, we'll see what the final numbers are. I don't know what level he wants to propose, but we'll see.
abby phillip
Would you support a stopgap measure to keep the government funded for a shorter period of time until they have more time to consider some of these other longer term spending bills?
ralph norman
Well, it's got to be what limits we're going to agree to and at what amount.
We'll learn more about that tomorrow.
But look, this is all about we're doing this the right way, although it's a little late.
We're debating the individual appropriation bills as it should be.
This is all about getting this country back on track.
You hear a lot of different things the Democrats are saying.
They don't mind spinning this country into oblivion, and we just have a basic disagreement on that.
chip roy
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle are talking about unfunded mandates.
Let's talk about unfunded mandates.
unidentified
Thank you.
chip roy
Let's talk about all of the subsidies that are going out for electric vehicles to subsidize the elite in this country that make over $200,000 and $250,000 a year.
Let's talk about the subsidies, 90% of the corporate subsidies going to billion-dollar corporations.
Let's talk about the mandates in the form of vaccine mandates and mask mandates and all of the mandates during COVID That shut down the largest economy that this world has ever known.
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle complain about shutdown.
Yet they are the masters of shutdown.
They shut down and brought to a halt the great American economy, resulting in exactly what you're experiencing right now and the American people feeling in terms of inflation, in terms of inability to afford homes, inability to afford gasoline, inability to afford power.
Those are the mandates that the American people are concerned about.
Those are the unfunded mandates that are killing their way of life right now at home.
That's the simple fact.
My colleagues were talking about the government and what it might cost if there's a government shutdown Saturday.
Well, let's be very clear.
If there is a shutdown on Saturday, it is because President Biden, Chuck Schumer, my Democratic colleagues would prefer to shut down the government of the United States than shut down the border of the United States and protect the American people.
That's the simple truth.
That is how there would be a resulting shutdown on Saturday.
And they lament what might be the impact on government.
And that is because they have a government, the American people have a government that is on autopilot.
We have a government that is so big and is funded with mandatory spending and is on autopilot such that you cannot constrain it.
And the American people are asking, why?
The American people are asking, what can you do about it?
And I'll give you the answer.
My Democratic colleagues want more of the same.
That is why our Democratic leadership in the United States Senate has put forward a continuing resolution on the floor of the Senate just now, in the last hour, that will perpetuate the status quo.
We'll continue to fund government exactly as it was funded last December at the obscene levels of that $1.7 trillion omnibus spending bill.
They're going to send that bill to the Senate and send it over here to the House and say to the American people they want status quo, business as usual.
They're going to pile on additional supplemental funding and that's their response to what the American people are feeling and seeing.
I, if I were my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, would also want to have a dilatory vote because I would not have actual solutions for the American people.
What we're trying to put forward here again are four appropriations bills that fund 73% of government, when combined with MilCon VA, which we passed in July.
That's what my colleagues on the other side of the aisle do not want to go ahead and move to.
They want to put forward a dilatory point of order because they don't have answers for the American people.
I reserve.
steve bannon
Wednesday 27 September year of our Lord 2023 until 3 o'clock in the morning Eastern Daylight Time.
They did amendments and debated the agriculture bill.
We now hear that there are at least 10 Republican votes against the appropriations bill for agriculture because it's not going to cut enough.
I just want to make sure that folks get the big picture here.
And that's what we started with the what is it the flash mob?
In Philadelphia last night, going up against all these woke businesses, Apple, all the other stores that just the vandals looted.
You're seeing.
You're seeing the end of a nation.
From an invasion on our southern border that no one will address.
That we're going to have 10,000,000 illegal aliens, 10,000,000 Visigoths.
Inside our country.
To now target Tarjay, the most woke of all the retailers, right?
The one in your face with all their grooming, merchandising, and marketing to young children.
Announcing they're pulling out of nine woke cities.
The Portland's, the Seattle's, the San Francisco's, the New York City's.
Because of actual anarchy and chaos, New York City collapsing before your eyes.
With what, 125,000 illegal aliens and more 10,000 arriving every month and they're whining and crying and pleading for a massive federal bailout?
Rome is collapsing before your eyes.
You do understand this.
The media doesn't want to report and doesn't want to talk about it.
It's collapsing.
You can't go in any major city in the United States anymore.
And these are cities of greatness and historical importance.
Washington DC, Philadelphia, the Cradle of Liberty, New York City, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle.
Can't go in these cities because of the anarchy and chaos of the globalist ruling class.
And on top of that, you have this pitch battle, and don't get lost in the tactics.
There's this government shutdown.
We're going through midnight on the 30th, as this show has told you from the day that they cratered on the debt ceiling bill, which was an absolute abomination.
So the back and forth, and the back and forth, and the back and forth, there's gonna be this CR, this CR.
But it's important because we're going to reveal What is going to be revealed over the next coming days is who governs you?
Who governs you?
And what role do the American people have in this?
What role do the American people have in standing up to the destruction of the greatest republic in mankind's history?
Because it is collapsing.
When Trump ran in 16 and 15 and 16, It was about the managed decline of this country.
And someone who would step into the breach, who is not a politician, would step into the breach to thwart and stop the managed decline by our elites.
We are so far beyond that today.
And you can see by the lack of seriousness, the lack of seriousness By this Uniparty in Washington, D.C.
and the immaturity of the media.
The immaturity of our leaders.
Let me repeat, this country is in an absolute collapse right now.
In every aspect.
Culturally.
Legally.
Morally.
Financially.
Economically.
And politically.
Every aspect of this nation.
Of course, in the bread and circus of the modern Rome, the vast majority of people are diverted to the games of today, not this audience.
So we're going to talk about how we're going to set things right.
We'll start with the money and then we'll talk about the power next in the war room.
You know the Roman Republic is what the founders really modelled, much of the structure of our government.
They were very inspired by the Roman Republic and, uh, not the empire, the Republic.
And the Republic fell.
The Republic fell because of certain things that we have going on today.
We have to address a situation.
This is no longer the managed decline of a nation.
This is the complete bottom falling out.
The bottom falling out.
And we have to address it.
This audience, you're right here.
The only adult conversation in this nation that's going on in this city right now is because this audience has the back of a handful, and I mean a handful, of patriots who are taking it incoming nonstop.
McCarthy and those guys are so freaked out.
We had the influences on yesterday about they're trying to push polls in their districts and they're trying to troll them with the biggest influence in MAGA and thank God that the MAGA influencers, the DC Drainers and others are of the moral character of the rest of the MAGA posse.
They said no.
And then Rahim broke the story how the McCarthy guys absolutely freaked out, and then they sent a cease and desist letter to this notorious LOC, whoever's trying to pass the bribe money.
And you see now, you know, the collaborationist Republicans, and take their names down, the collaborationist Republicans in the Senate, are just up in your face.
Ask J.D.
Vance.
They're up in your face.
They're going to pass this thing.
I mean, we're not going to do a CR.
But they're up in your face.
Theirs goes to the mid-November.
Why does it go to mid-November?
Why did it all of a sudden go from 30 days to 45 days?
Because the donor class wants Youngkin to get a victory in early November and then pivot and take on Trump.
Because the Keebler elves tonight has collapsed.
Don't take my word for it.
Look at Semaphore.
A leftist news publication, but with great reporting.
Their lead story?
Fox can't sell The Time tonight.
They've cut the prices, I don't know, by half or two-thirds because nobody's interested.
They've got ad agencies saying, this thing is a stiff, there is no Republican primary, nobody cares, and nobody wants to buy The Time.
And yet we spend time on that.
The donor money's going into stopping Trump.
The left wing understands they can't beat him at the polls.
He gains in momentum in the polls.
And you got Letitia James trying to destroy his business empire in New York city, completely lawless.
You have to embrace something.
The country you know, have known is gone.
Doesn't mean we can't get it back.
It can be gotten back.
But you have to understand the fight to do this is not going to take place in any one election.
There's no magic wand.
There's no fairy godmother going to come in here and tell you it's all going to be better.
It's all going to be great.
And I want you to compare that with the Keebler elves and particularly guys like Tim Scott and these people.
What planet are you living on?
What planet are you living on?
You have 10 million, by the time Biden regime's finished, 10 million illegal aliens in the country.
10 million.
And we won't know where they are because the inspector general of the DHS has told us they don't even keep the addresses.
And on Capitol Hill, you know, McCarthy just said the Senate thing's DOA because guess what?
In your face, they don't say anything, but as bad as these CRs are and they're not going to pass, they don't even have the common courtesy to put up anything about the border or to talk about any, even ephemeral cuts that would take place over the 45 days.
It's just up in your grill.
Oh, we're going to do it.
We're going to throw a supplemental for $6 billion into Ukraine.
Dave Brat joins us.
I want to tell the audience, too.
Our audience is quite diverse.
Working-class people, middle-class people.
As you know, we have a massive audience in mainland China with Lao Bajing and, of course, the people that have escaped from mainland China, in Europe, in Latin America, particularly Brazil.
And I always want to welcome Australia, want to welcome our international audience.
But we also have a number of hedge fund people throughout the world that watch this, or at least have their staffs watch it.
Particularly on the geopolitics and understanding what is going on with the parry and thrust of politics on capital.
Now, Dave Bright, I want to bring you in.
A major hedge fund type from Scandinavia informed me last night.
He says, hey, I watched the show and I track your five trillion coming in.
He says, I'm doing some math here.
And by the way, if the five trillion comes in, we have a two trillion dollar deficit.
We call that, he says, hey, I think that number, I think that number, and he sends it to the government site, and Dave, you and I will put it up today, but he says, hey, the government reports by August 31st, they only collected 3.97 trillion dollars.
They're on track with another 500 billion.
He's saying that the max that he calculates we could get would be 4.5 or 4.6 trillion dollars this year. That means the deficit would be 2.5 trillion.
Right. People say, well Steve it's 500 billion, what are you making? The point is, is E.J. and Tony, this is a situation that's getting worse. This is the, and why is it getting worse?
It is less revenue coming in because the real economy is slowing down.
Less financial transactions.
You just saw the mortgages are at now the lowest mortgages initiation since the early 90s.
No second mortgage.
The financial transactions are drying up.
Dave Brat, now we're going to have...
Could have a two and a half trillion dollar.
And this is why he's Garrett Graves and all these geniuses that cut this deal.
Where was your financial model?
unidentified
And what?
steve bannon
How did you model out tax revenue?
Did you just assume we're going to get it?
And in the robust Biden regime economy, everything you're being told is a bald face lie.
These are not miscalculations or people didn't think it through.
They're spinning you.
And up here in Capitol Hill, there's no discussion about the primary thing, which is this is not only can't be afforded, it can't be afforded now.
Forget the 10 and 20 years in our grandchildren show.
This is today.
This is now because it's impossible for this economy to turn around while we're talking about this type of crushing debt that gets worse because the economy slowing, as we told you in the stagflation, the lost decades, and now the tax revenues drying up.
Dave Brett.
dave brat
Yeah, well, I think you had it right with the fall of Rome, and at the core of all this is a giant moral rot.
And of course, St.
Augustine wrote his famous City of God after the fall of Rome to defend Christendom, and he contrasted the City of God with the City of Man, just a fallen wreck.
And that's where we are right now.
What you just said, where's their financial models and everything?
They actually do know these numbers.
That's what makes it even more morally serious.
The JP Morgans and whatever, they're given new, even more negative, pessimistic Input over the last few days on the market where our economy is going, the interest payments likely going up, inflation not stopping.
Larry Summers, we've said all that.
And so they actually do know this, right?
And so we're already, as you just said, at 1.5 trillion deficit this year without the interest expense.
And then the interest expense is another 600 billion.
So that gets you at about 2.1 trillion deficit with still a month to go.
And so just, you know, add another 10% on roughly, and you're at 2.2, 2.3 trillion.
And so we can go through a few charts, but the real issue here is that everybody knows this, and they're just going ahead with the CR in spite of it.
They're not telling the American people what a disaster this is.
And in 10 years, just with $2 trillion deficits, there'll be more than two because you're going to have more emergencies.
The left is constructing emergencies.
The political views are just my own on this show, but if the angels and the liberal do-gooders Don't do good.
And there's no sign that they are.
Then, you know, biblically, you know, God puts in rulers with a sword.
You don't get the little tough love stuff.
You get a wrecking ball.
And the left is not prepared for this.
Even our own conservatives, it's just stunning to watch them go along with a $2 trillion deficit with no real commentary.
And let's just do a CR.
We are at the end of it, folks.
This is the end of it.
We will default on the debt.
There's no doubt about it.
It's just a matter of the rich guys, right?
10% of the people own 90% of the bonds and stocks and retirement stuff, right?
The wealthy own it all.
You think they're going to get a haircut?
No.
It's always going to come.
The Fed's going to run inflation at 5%, right?
unidentified
And hit the poor, hit the poor, hit the poor.
steve bannon
This is like the real inflation for your life is 20% or north.
Trust me, you add in the credit card expense, all of it.
Don't take this, oh, inflation's coming down, it's at 3 or 4%.
That's ridiculous.
It's absurd.
Not just that the refinancing costs are going to be so high here.
You're going to not just the crowding out of capital from other from entrepreneurs and other people, right?
It's going to be it's going to be higher interest expense.
I want to hang on for a second.
We're going to go to break.
I got Rahim.
I want to play this interview with Trump because thank God you got Trump.
With all his imperfections.
With all his imperfections.
He's providential again who would come back if he hadn't come back from the plow like Cincinnati's what happened in New York City yesterday would have never happened.
Understand this if he just said, yeah, I'm retiring and you know, let just let it go if he had not returned to save his country again.
None of this would have happened and they're trying to destroy and take away his business Empire, New York City.
What leader in American history, outside of Lincoln and outside of General Washington, have we ever had like this?
dave brat
Ever?
steve bannon
With all his imperfections.
And they are many.
Like us all.
But think of his strength.
Raheem Adey Bradt in a moment.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
Matt Gaetz for Florida Governor.
Well, he's a great guy.
I mean, he's great.
donald j trump
He's a wonderful person.
unidentified
He's strong.
He went through hell for two years over something that I never believed for a second.
And he held up very strong.
He was very strong.
A lot of guys can't hold up to that.
And they put themselves in a corner, put their thumb in their mouth, and they say, Mama, take me home.
Get me out of here.
And Matt was strong.
What he goes through, I go through times 10.
But it's OK, because I see the love.
steve bannon
Trial by fire.
Gates has gone through it.
That's one of the reasons he's so strong here in this.
An incredible interview by someone who's quite it's it's it's he was providential in 16 and that victory was providential It's even more providential today.
I just want to repeat if he had left when he took off here on right before noon on the 20th of January of 2021 and for our audience that has been with us for that long you remember Boris was out there and We did a live before we ended the morning show and, you know, you had the phony inauguration of the illegitimate Joe Biden who did not win the 2020 election.
Suck on that, Jack Smith.
You had the phony, you know, they had the phony illegitimate regime that has destroyed this country with 10 people.
Ridiculous.
Humiliating.
With the circles.
I mean, 10 people on the... Because they couldn't draw a crowd because they didn't get the votes.
Everybody knows what the scam is.
If Trump had just gone back and just said, you know, I'm going to buy more golf courses, I'm going to work on my business, I'm going to write a memoir, I'm going to do all that.
None of what has happened to him would ever happen.
Letitia James, they would have said, fine, he's gone.
Now we can get back, the globalists can get back to running the country.
But he didn't say that.
He did the exact opposite.
What benefit is it for him personally to do this?
Remember, he's got 91 indictments for 700 years in prison.
And they've now tried to, with these radical judges, we had Mike Davis on last night, trying to destroy his business empire in New York City.
The city where the family started their business empire.
And you got the Keebler Elves, you got Murdoch.
I hope you lose so much frickin' money.
I hope the RNC goes bankrupt on this.
Bossy and Rana, you deserve everything you get on this.
Nobody cares about the Keebler Elves.
Read the Semaphore story.
Grace and Moe can push that out.
Semaphore said they can't even give away the advertising time.
You know why?
Nobody cares about the Keebler Elves.
We don't care about what Nikki Haley has to say.
We don't care what Tim Scott... We don't care about Tim Scott's mystery girlfriend.
It's beneath adults to focus on this when we have a nation that is imploding before your eyes.
It's not what adults do.
Raheem Kassam, this, this, uh, the, um, cause everything was going on.
It was so crazy last night.
You were breaking news all night.
Where do we stand on getting this incredible interview out, which I think is probably the best interview that president Trump's really had an interview.
It's kind of a, a, uh, a detailed conversation.
When, when's it going to come out?
raheem kassam
Yes, Steve.
The interview is up at TheNationalPulse.com right now.
You can go there, scroll the feed.
It's there.
It's all over social media.
We'll be uploading as well to other social media platforms.
X.com later on in the day.
We'll be pushing it out through our podcasting platform for the audio people out there.
And you can get the whole thing now on TheNationalPulse.com and on Rumble.
By the way, we're on Rumble, and you can check it out there as well.
And we'll be pushing it out.
We're putting it out through our newsletter.
If you're not signed up to our newsletter yet, it's thenationalpulse.com forward slash newsletter.
And it's getting a lot of attention.
The members got early access to the interview yesterday, and I had no end of messages since This went live to say, look, this is one of the finest conversations that we've ever heard from Donald Trump because he actually got to speak and he actually got to say his piece and he actually got to explain to people, you know, what his, not just what his impetus is, which is what you were talking about just now, right, is there is no financial impetus.
There is no gain that he can make as a 77 year old man out of coming back and doing He's got everything to lose and yet he is solely focused on this every day.
You can see it in the way he comports himself.
You can see it in the way he speaks about the issues.
The man, whether he's in an interview, whether he's on a stage or whether he's on a golf course, has one thing at the very top of his mind and that is how you get this country back.
The way he spoke about America in that interview was something that moved me and I know moved a lot of the audience.
The specificity with which the man is operating, I think, has really impressed the audience as well, because a lot of people are used to hearing the big picture, the broad brush stroke stuff at the rallies.
They don't actually understand that Donald Trump is going through policy as well with a fine tooth comb.
You said in the last segment, 10 million crossings on the southern border.
Trump himself told me in the interview that he expects by the end of this year there to have been 15 million crossings by the end of this.
He's going through the information himself, parsing it out.
And figuring out for himself what a what's really going on, right?
Because you can't actually trust a lot of what the media is telling you out there.
You look at the you look at the Biden document story from yesterday as a prime example of that.
And then and you look at where the other Biden story, the China money transfer story ended up in terms of the homepages of the corporate media over the last 24 hours.
And that's nowhere.
So this man is digging into details.
You can tell he's across it.
I have to tell you something.
I mean, I think after having had this conversation, which I hope everybody will go and check out, I am now personally offended when I hear people try and make the claim that he is somehow slowing down or out of touch or anything like that.
I have never seen somebody with such effortless grasp Of the reality of the situation that America is facing right now.
The reason we played that Matt Gaetz clip is, you know, Matt Gaetz is a close second to Donald Trump in actually fully understanding.
And Matt Gaetz represents a pivot point, right?
A generational pivot point from the old, you know, debt addled and debt ridden ways of running a nation into the ground.
By the way, to a generation who are saying, hold on, we don't want to keep doing that.
We don't want to make the same mistakes that the last generation is passing down to us.
And if you thought Atlas shrugged, right, this should really be a moment where Gen Z shrugs and says, no, this is not the way to run a successful nation.
Let's see if those people are willing and alert enough, as some of the people in that generation we know, like Natalie Winters is, You know, to stand and thwart history and say, stop.
steve bannon
Perfectly said.
Once again, Raheem, where can people get this?
Because I want to get this as broad a distribution as possible.
I think we need this as an antidote.
The President is going to be in Detroit today.
We're going to cover this pretty closely.
We've got Navarro is going to give us some breakdown of his support of the unions.
And Biden scrambled out there yesterday to stand in a picket line.
Kind of embarrassing.
How do people get this, Raheem?
raheem kassam
Yeah, so it's going to be pinned back to the top of the National Pulse page later on today.
We're going to have it pinned across all of our social media platforms, the National Pulse, Raheem Kassam, across all social media platforms.
And again, if people want to sign up, remember, there's no ads on our website.
We're not flogging you anything.
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It's real news, and we need ordinary people to come in and back us on this project.
And to do that, you go to TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room, sign up, your first month is free, and come and join the conversation.
We have a Discord community.
I'm in there every day.
We talk about all of the issues.
They even fed in to the questions and the conversation that I had with the president.
So that's TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room.
I want to see more people there.
We have thousands upon thousands of members.
Let's make that tens upon tens of thousands of members and really kick the corporate media where the sun don't shine.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Great interview.
Great work.
Raheem Kassam, founder, publisher, editor of the National Pulse.
Let's go, hang on for Brett for a second.
Let me go to Oscar Blue Ramirez, the Visigoths.
You know, President Trump says there's 15 million.
Did we just lose Oscar?
Okay, we got Oscar.
Oscar, you know, Aaron Burnett in CNN last night Literally had a guy, some geek down in Chapel, and he's sitting there going like it's the biggest reveal they've ever had.
Ten times said this is exclusive, first time here.
It is reporting you've done for us for I think two or three years now.
They're just getting down there now.
Tell me about the 6,000.
Because they were all sitting there and they were like shocked that there's 6,000 and the 6,000 are heading north.
Of course, they did make the comment, gosh, this is pretty good for the local economy because people are buying food, they're buying things for their journey north.
unidentified
Tell us what is happening down there and how does that Of course they're going to say that it's good for the business because they live out of humanitarian suffering and all the business that occurs from Central and South America.
oscar blue ramirez
Yes, in Tapachula, Steve, thank you for that.
We have walked more than nine caravans and these people just gotten there.
More than 6,000 people, they're stuck in this bottleneck of Tapachula.
It has always been a bottleneck.
And they're waiting for the process to obtain again the document that is called the transit document so they can move up forward into the northern borders.
The problem why they get stuck is because the only days that they process people, the international immigration, is on Monday and Tuesdays.
And from Wednesdays, you will see that place now a little bit decreased.
But because they don't work on Saturdays and Sundays, so you will see a massive amount But right now, the mayor of Tapachula has said that they have more and close to 25,000 migrants that they are stuck in the middle of downtown area.
This adding the ones that they're coming up by the by the hundreds of thousands coming out of the Darien Gap going through Costa Rica, Going to Nicaragua and arriving to Honduras and then later on to Guatemala.
It's going to continue.
It is a massive effect that is going to continue.
You can see that collateral effect in Piedras Negras.
Also, we're seeing it right here in Tijuana, in the parts of Sonora, and you can see it in Sonoita.
That is the border that is getting flooded right now.
But Littleville, Arizona, Ajo, Arizona, and all of those, you know, effects on these parts of the border.
steve bannon
It's projected that it's going to be 10 million illegal aliens, and of course we're not going to know where they are because they refuse.
It's a joke.
The IGA inspector general says there's no addresses, so we don't know where they are.
President Trump's saying it's going to be 15 million.
As you've covered this for years, brother, and probably the best informed guy besides Burquam, where do you think we come out in that number?
Are we closer to 10 million or closer to 15 million as you see it today?
oscar blue ramirez
You asked me that question a long time ago, Steve.
And we were up in the 8 to 10 million.
And I said, it is possibly going to surpass the 10 million.
And I believe strongly that is going to surpass the 10 million irregular entries through the southern border.
I believe that is going to be more than that.
And that is the number that is estimated that we know of.
You know, always Border Patrol gives just a hypothetical example.
They say 50,000, and it is three times more.
So I believe that it's going to be way, way more.
This is an unstoppable force.
At the meantime, the only little countries that are getting flooded and they're getting punished, like Panama, like Costa Rica, they don't have funds to sustain this.
And now it's going to go up to all the countries.
Mexico is not doing anything about it.
So it's immediate that if somebody comes into office and if Donald Trump comes into office, immediately he has a relationship again, like what he had in Mexico before, put the punishment of the sanctions or the threat of the sanctions.
And if not, is that, you know, have Mexico understand that they need to regulate their borders.
Okay.
Oscar, just hang on for one second.
steve bannon
Dave Bradsman, stick with us.
Oscar.
McCarthy right now, the big fight in the media up here in the Capitol about, you know, will Biden take a meeting, will not take a meeting, says I need a meeting, talk about the border.
Act like the Speaker of the House, dude.
ralph norman
Unbelievable.
unidentified
Next in the War Room.
steve bannon
We've got so much to get through, so I've got Naomi we're supposed to have on this morning, this huge breaking news on the WHO thing, looks like that may have been broken.
At least temporarily, I'm gonna get her tomorrow.
Huge news on Fauci, also the Bidens, and Natalie's gonna be covering the hearing tomorrow on the first impeachment hearing.
We're gonna get her on this evening.
We got Julie Kelly's coming on.
Big breaking news on the Ray Epps and the FBI.
It's just too much to get to now, so we're trying to curate it.
Two hours tonight.
It's going to be packed wall-to-wall.
Also got an economic analysis by Navarro about what President Trump's doing in Detroit today.
Probably get to that tonight or get to that.
I don't think we have time this morning.
Oscar, 10 million or 15 million.
It's enough to destroy a country.
And the mass, the largest mass, domestic mass deportation effort ever.
Which is going to start in the afternoon of January 20th of 2025.
If it doesn't start before and if these guys dig in right now, remember the back and forth, oh this CR, that CR.
I will tell you at the stroke of midnight on Saturday, the government is not going to be funded.
That is just not going to happen.
It's just too much.
It's the disparity and they're not even talking about the major and most important things.
They're still talking about all this.
unidentified
Oh, let's we got to keep it open.
steve bannon
It's going to be two weeks.
She made me miss a paycheck.
Also, Stephanie Rule last night, she took the the article in The Washington Post we talked about yesterday and they made it like that was about the government shutdown.
Oh, this is going to be terrible.
This is going to happen.
But these cuts and how all these things, those are not.
Those are not because of the shutdown, your producers got to get a little on top of things.
That's happening in the appropriations bills, in the cuts.
The massive cuts that have to happen.
Because we can't finance this anymore.
And they're going to be painful.
There are no easy decisions here.
That is not about a temporary fix that funds it for a couple weeks.
This is what's happening in the appropriations process.
They kept voting on the amendments last night on the agriculture bill until 3.30 in the morning, I think, when they finally went home.
I believe, as we sit now, The appropriations bill for agriculture, just like defense first time, will not pass.
I think there are 10 Republican votes against it.
Why?
There's still too much money.
People are still fighting about that programmatically.
So I'm not so sure that passes.
It might, but they got to do some more.
I think there's eight to 10 no votes in the Republicans right now.
Oscar Blue Ramirez, whether it's 10 or 15, it's enough to destroy a country.
And that's the whole purpose.
My Yorkers, all the times you sat there and said the border's not open, the border's not open, you just see with your own eyes what's happening here.
Why are people coming now, Oscar, as you've been down there for years talking to folks, why are they coming now?
oscar blue ramirez
Every single migrant that we have asked from South America, even in the Darien Gap, they know that the border is open.
Every single one that we have asked and I asked them the border is open into dairy and gap coming out of the jungle.
Yes.
It's open.
That's what we're going.
You know, they know that they can be let in with the CBP app.
Or without the CBP One app.
That is the number one problem right now.
It doesn't even matter what the Biden administration is putting on the table.
It's already a disaster.
They already created a disaster of open borders not only in the United States but in the whole continent.
And the one that are paying the consequences are these little countries, ultimately the number one, that is the United States of America, but also, you know, the Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Panama.
They feel like they're being played.
Every time he's changing his mind, he's saying, oh no, it's not open.
We are going to regulate this and we're going to have a CBP app.
And then he says that it's open.
And then he says, welcome everybody.
So, all of these countries, they are being punished by these open border policies.
So, the number one reason why they are coming, hundreds of thousands, and they're going to continue to come, it is because every single one of them, they will tell you, Steve, the border is open.
steve bannon
Oscar, how do we follow your reporting?
oscar blue ramirez
Where do we go?
Thank you, sir, for the invitation.
On Twitter, Oscar Blu Ramirez, and also at Getter, Oscar Blu Ramirez and America's Voice.news, sir.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Be safe, Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Godspeed and be safe.
Dave Brat, this is a mess almost beyond comprehension.
We've allowed an invasion.
I want to talk about the CR as far as the Senate goes versus the House, although we oppose any CR.
We have to keep plowing through to get down.
The Senate is no cuts.
Six billion dollars to Ukraine.
And they want it for 47 days, which is just going to lead to an omnibus.
The people that vote, you ought to get on your senators right now, 202-224-3121.
If Grace and Mo can find this, put up what Republicans voted for this thing yesterday, and it's all the neocons.
It's a disgrace, and they're a disgrace, and they ought to be turfed out of here.
Right?
And the presidential ambitions of some of them, I think, are just shattering right now because they're being exposed.
We told you this exercise over the next couple of days is to see who governs, who actually governs, and to find out who governs you and what their philosophy is.
On the House side, as bad as that is, they throw in the optics of the border, right, and not a dollar for Ukraine.
Marjorie Taylor Greene's already said, MTG says she's not voting for the defense bill.
Or didn't vote for the defense bill because it had 300 million dollars for Ukraine.
She's taking a hard line, that one penny for Ukraine.
Dave, in the couple of minutes I've got here, just give me give me your assessment of where we are.
dave brat
Yeah, well, all of these dots are connected.
Oscar just went over the immigration, et cetera.
And, you know, the the elites want immigration for cheap labor in all of the agriculture and hospitality states.
I learned that in Congress.
And they also want to because Social Security and Medicare are blown up.
And both bankrupt, according to their own board of trustees.
And I had some charts I was going to pop up, but everybody knows them already, right?
Social Security's got to go up 10% now because of inflation.
That's a huge increase in costs.
Medicare is going up 18%, I think I read.
That's a huge cost.
So we've been derelict across the board, and all of this works together dysfunctionally.
Right.
So now to patch that fix, we have to have $2 trillion deficits.
Well, of course, that's stimulative.
And that's why Jamie Dimon and everybody's starting to have a wake up call about ongoing inflation again.
And so all of these things are interconnected.
When you fail on one, it leads to failure in the other.
And I do want to make a little caveat against our team, because we always take ourselves on tough.
The Democrats, right?
And these are policy views, not politics.
The Democrats have yet to put in any single bill on the border that I've seen or on a $2 trillion deficits across the board.
But you don't hear anything about it from Mitch McConnell or from our leadership bully pulpits in the House.
And that's a crisis.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Hang on one second.
I know you got to bounce.
I just want to hold you on the other side.
It's a 90-second break.
dave brat
Yep.
steve bannon
Brad's right.
Democrats haven't put forward anything about closing the border or anything about cutting one penny.
One penny.
Short break.
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