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WarRoom Battleground EP 377: Zelensky Begs For More Money To Send Soldiers Into The Meat Grinder
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room, Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Though humanity is failing on its climate policy objectives, this means that extreme weather will still impact the normal global life and some evil state will also weaponize its outcomes.
And when people in the streets of New York And other cities of the world went out on climate protest.
We all have seen them.
And when people in Morocco and Libya and other countries die as a result of natural disasters, And when islands and countries disappear underwater, and when tornadoes and deserts are spreading into new territories, and when all of this is happening, one unnatural disaster in Moscow decided to launch a big war and kill tens of thousands of people.
We have to stop it.
We must act united to defeat the aggressor and focus all our capabilities and energy on addressing these challenges.
As nukes are restrained, likewise the aggressor must be restrained and all his tools and methods of war.
Each war now can become final, but it takes our unity to make sure that aggression will not break in again.
And it is not a dialogue between the so-called great powers somewhere behind the closed doors that can guarantee us all the new wars era, but open war of all nations for peace.
Peace.
Yes.
And say that my formula is to stop the war and stop all this tragedy and stop Russian aggression.
So the idea is how to take the part of our territory and to give Putin.
That is not the peace formula.
natalie winters
And all cult of climate change, meet the cult of Ukraine, quite the bizarre cold open.
We got Hardenwell joining us to discuss the latest developments, not just here in New York with the UN, with Ukraine, but even back home in Ukraine with Zelensky, some of his supposed European allies.
I guess they're upset about Zelensky's actions over here.
No surprise there.
It's of course, Natalie Winters filling in for Stephen K. Bannon, hosting the 6pm hour on today, September 20th, year of our Lord.
2023, we got a lot of news to get to.
So without further ado, if we have Hardenwell, before we get into what's going on with grain and Poland and some interesting developments on that front, I'd love to just get sort of generically your analysis, your reactions to Zelensky's UN speech, really focusing on The signal, not the noise, why he decided to throw down on climate change the new ask for $24 billion and really what we should expect with the lead up tomorrow with him coming to Congress to beg for even more money.
ben harnwell
Good afternoon, Jean-Nathalie.
I think the answer to the first question there is why he's concentrating, homing in on climate change.
It's because he knows on which side his bread is buttered.
He knows on which side his thread is buttered.
That's basically he's now, his remaining thread that he's hanging by almost existentially, Natalie, is that of the globalists, the power mongers, what I like to call our sociopathic overlords.
He's now going full on, all in, to appease their agenda in the desperate hope, perhaps it's a hope destined to fail, but a desperate hope that they will continue to support him because he realizes that the political winds in the United States are...
are headwinds now rather than tailwinds as they were a year and a half ago.
I would say that's the same reason why he has this dude with the bad wig, Ashton Cirillo, Mike or the stage name Sarah, as an official government spokesman, because in his head
this is the language that the power elites that he's trying to appeal to in the United States speak.
This is what he thinks.
He thinks if he puts this guy in front of a camera with that really creepy voicing that he's got going on, then that's all he needs to do to get the United States back on board and to get this 24 billion flooding in.
So it just shows how he thinks.
I think he's highlighting yesterday at the UN General Assembly the climate change fanaticism.
It's just an indication that he's sick.
And by the way, Natalie, it's not a ridiculous strategy for him to make.
Just ask yourself, why is the world, I mean obviously there's a relationship, a long-standing relationship, let's call it like that, between Ukraine And the present Biden administration.
But why, you know, why did we go all in within milliseconds into supporting Ukraine a year and a half ago?
And where are we now?
Where is the world?
In Nagorno-Karabakh, right?
We're within the Armenian enclave, which has been under basically blockade for the last 10 days.
No food has been in.
People are starving there.
That basically doesn't even merit a small paragraph on any page of the newspapers.
You'd really have to be obsessed by international news to realise that there's a crisis going on there.
And yet Ukraine has sucked out all of the oxygen from the room. Why? Because the Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakh aren't going on and on about climate change.
They don't have a leader who dresses himself in PVC or leather, whatever it is, whatever he does, and plays the piano with his intimate parts.
They don't have a leader in Nagorno-Karabakh who will stand up at the UN and go on and on about climate change.
And they absolutely don't have a guy with an ill-fitting blonde wig and a really creepy, terrifying voice as an official government spokesman.
So Zelensky's strategy here, Natalie, isn't a ridiculous one, and it has, up until now, been helping them.
By the way, I just want to explain what that 30 seconds was in the cold open at the beginning.
The first clip of him addressing the UN yesterday, then there was a 30 second extract of him talking, I think it was to Wolf Blitzer on CNN.
The context of what he's saying is that he's challenging Donald Trump.
That wasn't really included in the extract.
But he was challenging Donald Trump to come out and explain what Trump's peace plan is, which Trump has been talking about several times over the last few months, saying that he'll be able to end this war in 24 hours.
Zelensky's thrown down and said to Trump, come now.
I just want to get that point across and there's more to say on that throwdown and we'll pick that up I hope over the coming days.
I just want to get that point across and there's more to say on that throwdown and we'll pick that up I hope over the coming days.
There are a couple of other things that I want to take out from today, if I may Natalie.
The first is that for those who are interested in the dynamics and the personal relationship dynamics, Sergei Lavrov, who's the Russian foreign minister, the Russian state media has said he would be in attendance at that Security Council meeting.
You know, actually, here's the time for me to call on Memphis, if they wouldn't mind just playing that in the background.
We have footage of the Security Council meeting today.
And I'll just talk over the top of it.
So, Lavrov wasn't there.
Russia was replaced, or was represented, I should say, by Russia's ambassador to the UN.
I'll tell you who else wasn't there, and that was Wang Yi.
Now, China is, of course, one of the five permanent members of the Security Council.
The foreign minister, Wang Yi, wasn't there at the Security Council meeting today, and Britain and France.
Where was Wang Yi today?
Today, of all days, when the Security Council, here we are, here's the footage in the background, was the Security Council apparently breaking its own norms and allowing Zelensky to speak first at the meeting today, which wasn't primarily about him or Ukraine.
And Russia objected to that.
Where was the Chinese foreign minister today?
He was in St.
Petersburg meeting with Putin and here is what he said.
I don't know how much time I have on the show today, Natalie, but there is basically, and this has been taking place over a long time, there is really a slow dissolving of the unipolar world now, and it's dividing, it's becoming more multipolar.
And in opposition to the United Nations and the very sort of US-type rules-based international order that the UN is supposed to guarantee.
I won't say it's been boycotted by the Russia-China axis here, but there's something along those lines that's taking place.
Here is what the Chinese foreign minister said today in Russia with Putin.
He said that in an increasingly multipolar world, Moscow and Beijing share special global responsibilities.
He said, China is ready to bolster coordination on the world stage to protect our common interests together and to promote international justice.
That is really a throw down to the United Nations, I would suggest, and to the influence that America still has.
It's been declining, obviously, massively under the present administration, but it still has influence.
And here we can see on the very day that Zelensky addresses the Security Council, that China and Russia are very keen to let the world know, and I guess they're BRICS allies, they're a growing number of BRICS allies, that that alliance between the two of them is as strong as ever.
natalie winters
No harm.
Well, before we let you go, you've probably noticed I'm a little different than Steve.
I don't interrupt quite as much.
I like to let you finish your point.
Of course, kidding.
Before I let you go, real quick, just on the front of Poland, I'm talking with the, I believe, Ukrainian envoy about grain imports, exports.
What's the latest with that?
And then we'll let you go.
ben harnwell
Well, yesterday there was a planned meeting, Natalie, between Andrzej Duda, the Polish president, and President Zelensky to try and iron out some of these difficulties that they've had.
That meeting was cancelled and it was cancelled because Zelensky had said yesterday, basically indicating Poland, that's why some of Ukraine's European allies are feigning They're really secretly supporting Russia.
So Poland has taken umbrage at this and they've actually called, they've summoned in Ukraine's ambassador for stripping down, to make that absolutely clear.
So there are tensions there between those two countries, certainly, and those tensions seem to be increasing.
natalie winters
Arnwell, thank you so much for joining us.
If people want to stay up to date with your analysis that I'm sure leaves the ruling class or overlords very mad, angry, and upset, where can they get all of that content and more from you?
ben harnwell
Thank you so much, Natalie.
Well, firstly, I'll give a plug to the newsletter that goes out several times a day.
And just, folks, if they want to, they should definitely subscribe to that.
Go on to warwim.org, where you, myself, Joe Allen, we push out exclusive articles on the newsletter.
And then if you want my most intimate thoughts and analyses, it's always on Getter, my platform, social platform of choice.
Simply check out My surname, Harnwell, and that's where you'll find my profile.
Natalie, thanks so much.
God bless.
unidentified
Thank you.
natalie winters
He's a must-follow.
I'm the executive editor of War Room, but I guess he's the international editor.
I don't know where the hierarchy checks out with all that, but I am comfortable saying that Harnwell is superior to me, so definitely follow him. And of course, thank you so much for joining us. Now, before we bring Kane on, at Steve's request, I was supposed to come on the show this morning to walk you guys through what is a new breaking, really bombshell story coming out of DHS. So I just want to tee that up myself a little bit. And then we'll bring Kane on from Citizen Brief Press to discuss. But you may have heard by now that the
Department of Homeland Security, specifically led by Mayorkas, has established a new Homeland Intelligence Experts Group.
Remember, this is the same DHS, same outfit that had launched the short-lived disinformation governance board about a year ago before the War Room Posse and investigative reporters helped quash that for the free speech trampling, really, a fence to the First Amendment.
uh... that it was but i think they're sort of rebranding and frankly i have to say i think this iteration the latest attempt what let's call it what it is not just election interference but to quash the maga movement might just be all the more concerning and to walk you through this group if you read the press release basically they're admitting that the government is now openly working on with corporations that their private sector partners
to help get data to help get information to just share resources to help combat you guessed it domestic violent extremism But if you really drill down and you look at the who's who of the dozen or so people that are listed as belonging to this new group, you can tell It really is just the bowels of the swamp, the bowels of the deep state.
You of course have some, I'm sure, names you guys recognize at home.
John Brennan, James Clapper, but you also have three signatories, the last two names I just said are included on that, who actually were part of the Hunter Biden hard drive Russian disinformation letter.
How's that for hypocrisy and keeping it so offensively in your face?
But even more interesting, and this is some exclusive War Room analysis, we also have Alyssa Massimino, this is someone who's up at Georgetown Law.
She's repeatedly tweeted about how much she hates Donald Trump, even asking people, what are you doing to put Donald Trump in the rearview mirror?
It's clear these people are ardently anti-Trump.
They're weaponizing the DHS.
to ensure that he doesn't get his rightful second, some might say third, but second term.
But what's so interesting too, if this is supposed to be countering domestic extremism, there's actually no one who's an expert on Islamic extremism, no one who's an expert on, you know, the Marxist movement that is Black Lives Matter, or these movements that we've seen destroy America, cities across this country. And even more interesting, of course, you guys know, my work has focused a lot on COVID-19, the origins of that, linking, of course, to EcoHealth Alliance, Asha M. George, another individual who is on this new group, she leads
What is the very swampy group called the Bipartisan Committee on Biodefense?
Not only are they supporters of the natural origin theory with COVID-19, but the executive vice president of EcoHealth Alliance, the group that was receiving funds from Anthony Fauci to collaborate with the Wuhan Institute of Virology on COVID-19 related research.
Well, he's also on the board there.
So how is that for the swamp?
You also have a key Russia gate operative, someone by the name of Tashina Gauhar, I hope I pronounced that correctly, who not only was very critical in getting the warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, but was very wrapped up in the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.
But really, I think the most important takeaway and what Steve and I were really going to get into earlier today, is that this outfit is primarily comprised of lawyers, partners at some of America's leading law firms. Of course, they're all in bed with the DMC, but it really seems like a group of people who should be more aligned with the Department of Justice, right? This is a DHS initiative. So the true signal, not the noise here, I would argue, is that this
is showing that Trump-style lawfare is going to be coming not just for Donald J. Trump, but like he always said, they're coming after him just to get to you, and they're going to use, I think, this new DHS outfit, this little group.
They've admitted to it, to help combat domestic extremism by partnering with the private sector and really using lawfare, weaponizing these law firms, weaponizing the law, of course disrespecting the Constitution.
To do so—I'm sorry, I talked so much, but we gotta lay down some groundwork before we bring in the one and only Kane.
From Citizen Brief Press, I think we have him.
If we do, Cain, I know you had this story linked up in the stack early this morning.
I'd love to just get your thoughts as someone who follows the media, knows a lot of these people from their previous scandals.
Your thoughts on what the DHS is now trying to do.
@citizenfreekane
Well, thanks, Natalie.
Glad to be here.
You know, I just removed my N95 mask and my PPE.
Because even though I work absolutely positively alone, you can never be too careful.
So now that I'm ready... I hope you bought your booster too!
Actually, there's an interesting story in the stack from last night that Pfizer Moderna stock took a hit, fell about 10% because Pfizer announced that they expect somewhere only around 20% of the public to get this newest booster.
So Fauci's crying somewhere in retirement in his $15 million DC home.
You know, Natalie, here's the thing.
You want me to talk about this new DHS group and I just, you know, it's like following Johnny Carson following you.
There's no one on this earth, you know, and this is a compliment, but there's no one on this earth who knows this stuff like you do and what you know about these people.
What struck out to me when I saw it is it seemed like it was You know, a federal jobs program for aging spooks and Democrat lawyers, and maybe people who no longer want to spend time at Perkins Coie.
It reads, you know, your initial reaction to it seems correct to me.
It reads like it's a list of Democrats that plan to use The courts, much in the way that Mark Elias did with absentee ballots in the last election, but these Democrats plan to use lawfare in the courts to go after President Trump.
And as you said, domestic violent extremism, which is one of those generically perfect, super broad terms that could mean everything from me sitting in my office typing out headlines to someone speaking on a ham radio about About what's happening in Washington.
It's, you know, you never, you talked about the disbanded group.
Wasn't that led by, I know you guys, you and Rahim and National Pulse and War Room sort of really did, you know, you led the effort.
Was that led by Nina, was it Nina Jamowitz or something like that?
natalie winters
Nina Jenkiewicz.
Yes, the one and only, the TikToker extraordinaire, who recently registered as a foreign agent on behalf of the British government.
But I digress.
@citizenfreekane
Yeah, that's interesting.
I, you know, I remember the the stuff, the, the podcast on War Room where, where you and Rahim were really hitting that hard.
And it's, so again, you know, my thoughts on this are, You know, this is why I'm anonymous.
You know, you, unfortunately, you're out there, your name's out there.
There are, there are a bunch of people that are, that are fighting the good fight and, and, you know, have to deal with things like being swatted like War Room and Steve was swatted two or three times.
So, Anytime, you know, anytime DHS and the government starts to trend in this area where they talk about domestic extremism, we know that those are code words for populists, for America First believers, for Trump supporters.
And we can, you know, without even questioning, we can we can assume that all of their attention is going to be put on the new sort of the new populist right wing.
And and so, you know, I'm a hey, at least we know the names and And now, with people like you, we'll keep a really close eye on it, I hope.
natalie winters
Yeah, you can sort of reverse-engineer their definition of domestic extremism by who they're choosing.
To a point, to this board, there's, like I said, no experts on Islamic terrorism.
Again, they're talking about just in general terrorist threats to the United States, too, but they really seem with a laser focus.
to go after domestic extremism, which is probably just code for election denialism. But like I said, no one who's well versed in the Marxist overtaking of this country or Black Lives Matter or anything like that. But this brings me to the second story that I wanted to discuss with you, which is why they're in such a full blown panic mode, in the words of one of the DHS group members, putting Trump in the rear view mirror, which I think would actually make him look closer than he appears.
And speaking of closeness, there's some interesting new polling coming out from Real Clear Politics showing that if you were to sort of transpose where we are currently with 2020, Donald Trump is ahead of Joe Biden in the polls at the same time, if you sort of do a compare and contrast.
I'll hold you over through the break, but if you want to start Yeah, absolutely.
I'm so excited to talk about these polls.
You know, I have just as... I know to be skeptical.
@citizenfreekane
Yeah, absolutely. I'm so excited to talk about these polls.
I know to be skeptical. I don't want people to think that it's completely legitimate.
But what's important about these RCP polling averages is they also provide links to the exact same polls from 2020.
So we know where Trump ended up doing in the 2020 election, sort of, you know, lawfare and election fraud aside.
We know how he ended up doing versus we're able to, if people go to CFP and click on these links, they can see exactly where these polls were.
And Biden had a 7.2, the aggregate leading into the last week of the election was a 7.2% lead for Biden in 2020.
And now in these same polls, right now, as of two days ago, Trump finally has the aggregate lead by 0.6%.
So it's a flip of 7.8% or about 8% or 8 points in the numbers.
And we know that that's actually a flip of the independents.
So, so that part is fantastic.
And, you know, feel free to cut me off when you need to.
But I'll say that if you go even deeper into the numbers, there was both a Reuters poll and a McLaughlin poll from about two weeks ago was the McLaughlin.
Reuters was last week.
And they showed that Trump has a dominating lead in seven swing states.
So in the Reuters poll, they're showing him leading Biden 41-35 in those seven states, and the McLaughlin poll showed it 49-41 Trump.
So as you and I have talked about in the past, I really think that this is about the independents.
If you have 40% that are going to vote against Trump no matter what, and 40% of the MAGA base that is going to vote for Trump, it's all going to be decided by the 20% in the middle.
And in 2020, we didn't do as well with those independents.
natalie winters
I'm going to hold you there because we've got to jump to break, but I want you to come back because I want you to finish that thought.
Warren Posse, we'll be right back.
We've got Cain, Jeff Clark, Merrick Garland testimony.
Everything you could ever want.
We'll be right back.
Be right back.
unidentified
♪♪ War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
♪♪ Welcome back to the War Room.
natalie winters
It's always a fun day when we have Kane from Citizen Pre-Press joining us and I don't pay him to say those nice things about me for some reason.
I guess it's part of the misinformation that he spreads on a daily basis when he says I'm good at my job.
No, I'm of course kidding.
Kane is, of course, a dear friend and a good friend.
I would say a fan favorite of the war room.
So I'm very glad he is here with me.
Kane, before I let you go, we had to go to break.
I'm sorry, I don't have the authority to blow the brakes here.
But just finish what you were saying with the analysis of the polls, particularly independence and comparing it juxtaposing it with 2020.
@citizenfreekane
Yeah, I'm happy to finish that.
So the quick story is that we're doing fantastically in the same polls as we were not doing very well in 2020.
And that's why I give this credence, that's why this matters.
So when you get to the swing states, as I was saying, two of those polls, Reuters and McLaughlin, both showing in the last two weeks that Trump has an eight-point lead in one and a six-point lead in the other in the aggregate of seven swing states.
So these are generally left-wing polls.
We know the internals aren't always favorable to Republicans.
So the fact that Trump is doing well in these polls really means something.
And I'll close it with this.
Matt Drudge is noticing.
While I was sort of, you know, waiting through the commercial break, I threw up Drudge's report because I already know all the stories on my site.
And he's sort of leading with, here's one of its headlines here.
Lead is over.
The Don evaporates in new poll.
It's a dead heat.
And what he's linking to is the Yahoo YouGov poll, which Yahoo does every single month.
Yahoo YouGov do every single month.
And what's interesting about it is so you can track it month to month.
And just a month ago, it was 47-41 Biden.
This is a nationwide poll, not swing states.
And as of today, released today, it is at 44-44.
So we already know that Trump is pulling better in swing states than he is nationwide, because nationwide you get California and New York and all the sort of liberal blue enclaves.
So the fact that he's pulled even, gained six points, or Biden lost three, Trump gained three.
So a six point change since last month, that's another huge piece of evidence.
And I think the reason why, you know, you and I really are interested in this stuff is because how do we gauge the reaction to Trump post indictments, right?
We knew these indictments were coming for months.
And what we would ask ourselves is, well, what are the polls going to show?
Is this going to make people go for him or sort of drift away?
And I think right now and this is where I'll wrap it up.
I think right now we can say the evidence is showing strongly that Trump has gained and Biden has lost since the four indictments.
And I'm feeling super positive and can't wait for next November.
natalie winters
Kane, thank you so much for joining us.
If people want to follow you, where can they go?
But more importantly, if they want to read the stack, which I think you are updating 25 hours a day, if that's even possible, where can they find it?
@citizenfreekane
Yes, it's super simple.
You can use the Steve Bannon spelling, which would be CitizensFreePress.com, or you can use the non-Steve Bannon spelling without the S. Officially, it's without the S.
Citizen Free Press.
I update, I sleep six hours a day.
So I'm on the site 18 hours.
And for people who don't know, there's no advertisements and all the news stories go right at the top.
So you can load it in bed before you go to sleep.
And the first thing when you wake up in the morning, citizenfreepress.com.
And thanks again, Natalie.
I always enjoy talking with you.
natalie winters
Likewise.
Thank you so much for joining us.
You know, So clear with the polls, with the indictments.
What tricks are the Democrats going to pull?
Is it going to be more bailouts, student loan bailouts?
Is it going to be more Ukraine?
Is it going to be stimulus checks?
Who knows what they're going to do?
It's clear they don't care about the de-dollarization of this country.
It's clear, frankly, they don't care, obviously, about fiscal responsibility.
Frankly, about just the financial future of this country, not just for you, but for, of course, your children and grandchildren, which is why it's all the more important to go to Birchgold.com slash Bannon to get End of the Dollar Empire.
I believe they are now on the fourth version.
I guess there are now four ends to the Dollar Empire.
No, but you got to get it.
You got to read it.
I've read it.
It's written by Steve, and it's very powerful.
Like we always say in the War of Knowledge, information is power.
And they want to strip that and your ability to consume it away from you.
So, while you still can, before the DHS Intelligence Review Board comes for Birchgold and birchgold.com slash Bannon, go and get yourself a copy of The End of the Dollar Empire.
Now I think we have Jeff Clark, but before we go to him, we have a wonderful package of some of the hottest moments Uh, from today's congressional hearing with none other than Merrick Garland, the Attorney General.
So, let's roll that, Memphis, and we'll come back with Jeff Clark's stunning and brilliant analysis of everything that we saw go down today.
unidentified
Quote, Mr. Weiss has full authority to bring cases in other jurisdictions if he feels it's necessary.
That was your response, Attorney General, to Senator Grassley's question on March 1st, 2023, just referencing when Mr. Bishop was questioning you.
Only problem is he'd already been turned down by the U.S.
Attorney in the District of Columbia, Mr. Graves.
So he didn't have full authority, did he?
I had an extended conversation with Senator Grassley at the time.
We briefly touched on the Section 515 question and how that process went.
My point's real simple, Mr. Garland.
You said he had complete authority, but he'd already been turned down.
He wanted to bring an action in the District of Columbia, and the U.S.
Attorney there said, no, you can't.
And then you go tell the United States Senate under oath that he has complete authority.
I'm going to say again that no one had the authority to turn him down.
They could refuse I don't know the answer to that question.
thomas massie
him they could not use whatever you language refused to partner is turning down it's not the same under a well-known Justice Department practice here's why this when I said how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th and agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol and how many went into the Capitol can you answer that now I don't know the answer that question oh last time you don't know how many there were
unidentified
or there were none? I don't know the answer to either of those questions yet.
If there were any, I don't know how many.
I don't know whether there are any.
I think you may have just perjured yourself that you don't know that there were any.
You want to say that again?
That you don't know that there were any?
I have no personal knowledge of this matter.
I think what I said the last time... You've had two years to find out, and today... By the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps, and yesterday you indicted him!
Isn't that a wonderful coincidence?
steve bannon
On a misdemeanor!
Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison.
unidentified
You're putting people away for 20 years for merely filming.
Some people weren't even there, yet you've got the guy on video who's saying, go into the Capitol.
He's directing people to the Capitol before the speech ends.
steve bannon
He's at the site of the first breach.
unidentified
You've got all the goods on him, 10 videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor?
steve bannon
The American public isn't buying it.
unidentified
I yield the balance of my time to Chairman Jordan.
May I answer the question?
How can you guarantee that the people buying that art aren't doing so to gain favor with the President?
The job of the Justice Department is to investigate criminal allegations.
Do you have information?
Are you investigating this?
I mean, someone who bought Hunter Biden's art ended up with a prestigious appointment to a federal position.
Doesn't it look weird that he's become this immediate success in the art world as his dad is President of the United States?
Isn't that odd?
I'm not going to comment about any specific... Not going to comment, not going to investigate.
So, Hunter Biden says... So, January 6th, did you lose count of the number of federal assets?
Did you lose count and order an audit?
Gentlemen, his time has expired.
I get an answer to the question of, did he lose count?
Let him answer the question.
Time has expired.
The Attorney General can respond.
China is the most aggressive, most dangerous adversary the United States faces, and we are doing everything within our power to rebut that, to stop that, to prevent their invasions, both kinetic and through cyberspace.
If someone gave that answer in your courtroom when you were a judge, you would tell them they were being non-responsive and you would direct them to answer the question?
mike johnson
Have you had personal contact with anyone at FBI headquarters about the Hunter Biden investigation?
unidentified
I don't recollect the answer to that question, but the FBI works for the Justice Department.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
You don't recollect whether you've talked with anybody at FBI headquarters about an investigation of the president's son?
I don't believe that I did.
I promised the Senate, when I came before it for confirmation, that I would leave Mr. Weiss in place, and that I would not interfere with his investigation.
Okay, did you ever- I have kept that promise.
natalie winters
Just remember, if the Never Trump movement, who believe me, is still alive and well, had their way, that man would have been sitting on the Supreme Court, and if there's anything that we should take Really is a lesson, a thankful, thankful-to-God lesson from today is that he is a liar.
If I call him a traitor, I'll call him a traitor.
I'm sure Steve would call him a scumbag.
He is an absolute liar.
Bold-faced lies to the American people and our members of Congress about everything from Hunter Biden to January 6th.
Now, joining me to discuss someone who really has been a victim in many iterations of the weaponization of Joe Biden's Department of Justice, Probably at the hands of Merrick Garland himself, as none other.
Fan favorite, show favorite, Jeffrey Clark of the Center for Renewing America, but of so much more, we love you on this show.
Jeff, your thoughts, just sort of walking through that package on just overall, generically, Merrick Garland's performance, we'll call it, will be nice, performance today in Congress.
jeffrey clark
So, Natalie, thanks for having me on, and, you know, I don't think that, you know, Kane's compliments are mistaken, so you should be glad for that.
But, look, let me start with the Epps clip that you showed, where, you know, like magically, after all this complaining, right, after these puff piece stories in the New York Times by Alan Foyer, and the Bill Whitaker 60 Minutes piece where they sympathetically interview him, Oh, it's all conspiracy theories.
You know, you did nothing wrong.
You've had to go into hiding.
You're living in a camper trailer now, etc.
All that nonsense.
Finally, they come out with criminal information against him.
And it's right before Merrick Garland testifies.
And then he's asked questions about what he knew about the number of agents in the crowd on January 6th, and he says, well, I don't really have personal knowledge of that.
And as the questioner went to sort of right away, well, you know, for more than two years you've been in charge of the department, right? I mean, lawyers actually have ethical duties, Natalie, to supervise in a non-negligent fashion, right?
So with all of the folderall about, you know, the kind of drip, drip, drip of, oh, first it's a few agents the New York Times admits, and then it's more, and now just recently there's an admission that it seems like quite a large number.
And, you know, there are also different levels of people, right?
There could be agents, DHS or of the Justice Department.
There could be contractors for them, there could be confidential human sources, right?
We need a complete accounting of all of those categories and how much they added up to and how interspersed through the crowd they were, etc.
But for the Attorney General to say, like, well, I don't really know anything about that personally.
Well, that's because you're being an ostrich and you didn't call for a briefing on it at the very least.
Maybe because you don't want to know, because it blows up the whole narrative that, you know, there were these groups who were plotting an overthrow of the government when, you know, they talked a lot in a kind of LARPing fashion.
But, you know, it looks a lot more like there was, you know, a disturbance That lasted for a few hours and then it was over and it wasn't even anything like the Antifa summer of love in 2020 where in multiple cities They're burning things.
They're destroying property.
They nightly attacked the Marco Hatfield federal courthouse in Portland where I've argued before But you know all that gets, you know soft-handed treatment and no one at any point ever alleges that that was some kind of sedition against the government and the protests and
Against and disruptions against Justice Kavanaugh Etc that they don't get any attention, but everything focuses on on January 6th But yet the Attorney General doesn't know how many federal assets of one kind or another in the crowd that can only be due to Not properly supervising the department and not finding that information out.
It's there.
You know what what's that thing from?
You know the alien show or whatever like the truth is out there.
natalie winters
You just got to go find it I usually never understand pop culture references because I never watch movies.
Growing up, I never did, which is probably why it turned out.
So I was gonna say normal, but maybe I won't use that word, but why I turned out the way I did.
But it seems like in Kevin McCarthy's status quo, Merrick Garland, that's really, today's hearing is really the only, you know, five, 10 minutes of pressure that he feels, right?
Having to answer some uncomfortable question that he of course maneuvers around and focuses on North Korea and tries to use the Chinese Communist Party as a cop-out instead of talking about January 6th, but he doesn't care because he knows after he gets out of today's hearing the money's still gonna come, the new headquarters are still probably gonna come, he's probably not even gonna be impeached.
So I'm just curious, you guys obviously at CRA have really been the tip of the spear, I'm sure Steve would agree with me, on this CR fight on the funding of the government.
What do you think, especially on the heels of today's hearing, Accountability really looks like specifically in the case of Merrick Garland.
Is it trying to obviously stop the CR and stop funding to the DOJ?
Is it impeaching him?
Is it all of the above?
What is the plan of action that you guys over at CRA think we need to really look at going after Merrick Garland?
jeffrey clark
So anything in terms of the government funding fight at the moment and the particular bill that funds the Justice Department, right? I mean, aggressive terms need to be used to bring the Justice Department back to its historic role and to stop proceeding as a weapon against the American people, right? We shouldn't be having cases against Mark Hauk. We shouldn't be having memos that go out that say that parents who complain about
transgender bathrooms at the kind of lower level, but more seriously, right, with this recent pardon of the father in Virginia by Governor Yuncken, who complained about the fact that a transgender rapes their daughter in a public school bathroom. That kind of situation is...
And for the Justice Department to be going after the parents who complain at these school board meetings, where you really have, you know, they're always saying, you know, protect our democracy, etc.
Where is that democracy, especially with a small d?
It's in school board meetings.
It's in local government, right?
And yet, you know, efforts to complain about what's going on are being demonized.
And, you know, if that had not come to light, along with other things like, you know, Catholics who like Latin masses, You know, we'll get persecuted, like all those trains would have gotten much farther down the track.
So all that, all those efforts need to be defunded.
Another one I'd toss in to be defunded is the new Environmental Justice Office they've created at the Justice Department.
I mean, you know, give me a break.
We have fentanyl pouring into the country.
We have, you know, epidemic crime waves sweeping through the blue cities where the Soros prosecutors are not actually prosecuting real crime.
And the Federal Justice Department's interested in You know, how much money gets siphoned off from some kind of civil settlement to pay off some of these environmental groups or, you know, or other kinds of pressure groups.
I mean, it's truly ridiculous.
And Natalie, let me go theoretical for, you know, because it's theory is very important.
And, you know, I've written this paper about the DOJ is not independent.
So Merrick Garland was asked about that today.
And he sort of says, well, I'm not the lawyer of Congress.
I'm not the lawyer for the president.
I serve the American people, right?
Well, what does it mean?
I mean, you're an American person.
Natalie, I'm an American person.
Can we get Merrick Garland to do our will or to carry out our instructions?
Of course not.
So what he's really saying is he's not accountable to anyone.
He's basically arguing that he's a fourth branch of government.
That is entirely unconstitutional under our system of government.
It's a violation of the Article 2 Take Care Clause.
It's a violation of the fact that all appointees are put in place by the president and then they serve at the pleasure of the president.
You know, he's got the system entirely upside down.
And then, you know, to see Ken Buck, you don't have that clip.
Maybe you should try to get that on the show tomorrow or a future day.
You know, Ken Buck gives him like a whole paean of like, well, the Department of Justice has to be independent, etc.
You know, it's like he's scrubbing his back.
And then he says, well, I'm particularly, you know, impressed by Bill Barr, who after January 6 rushed into the Oval Office and said, you know, there's no evidence of the election having been stolen.
And, you know, earth to Ken, as I tweeted, you know, Bill Barr resigned several weeks before January 6.
So he can't even get basic facts right.
And it seems to me like he's already signed up with his new CNN masters to toe Yes, he's certainly aligned with his new CNN paymasters, and I don't know if he ever ditched his old big tech paymasters.
natalie winters
Jeff Clark, if people want to stay up to date with everything you're working on, everything you guys are doing over at the wonderful institution that is Center for Renewing America, where can they find you?
jeffrey clark
So the Center is at AmericaRenewing.com and, you know, what's old is new again.
The paper on DOJ is not independent.
People should take a look at.
Politico, you know, did a whole story about that, as Steve noted yesterday again.
And it's, you know, new because Merrick Garland's, you know, again touting the constitutionally wrong idea that the Justice Department is independent.
So that's on the AmericaRenewing.com website.
I'm at JeffClarkUS on Twitter and Getter.
And at Real Jeff Clark on Truth Social, Natalie.
natalie winters
He is a must-follow on all platforms, and believe me, I'm sure the DOJ, the FBI, and all those deep state operatives are following you very closely, reading those papers, and running scared.
Jeff, thank you so much for joining us.
jeffrey clark
Thanks, Natalie.
natalie winters
And Warren Posse, thank you so much for hanging with me for the 6 p.m.
hour.
Don't worry, Steve will be back.
Tomorrow for the 10am show, sometimes I guess he needs a little bit of a break, but I will be hosting at 5pm on Friday.
No shows tomorrow, like I said, Steve.
I guess we were supposed to have the vote on the CR, but because of you guys, because of the War Room Posse, they had to can it.
We'll see what happens.
But they had to can the rules vote, so it's unlikely that it'll move forward.
We'll see you tomorrow, bright and early, 10am.
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