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Sept. 20, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3041: Trafficking In Ukraine; The Erosion Of The Rule Of Law
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joe scarborough
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terry schilling
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kaitlan collins
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mika brzezinski
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
jack posobiec
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
nicolle wallace
Donald Trump and his MAGA Republicans are determined to destroy American democracy.
And I will always defend, protect and fight for our democracy.
President Biden also mentioned Donald Trump's affinity for dictators abroad, saying this, I will not side with dictators like Putin.
Maybe Trump and his MAGA friends can bow down and praise him, but I will not.
And regarding the threat of domestic violent extremism linked to an ex-president and allies who direct violent rhetoric at anyone who they consider to be in their opposition, President Biden said this, quote, I want the entire nation to join me in sending the strongest, clearest, most powerful message possible that political violence in America is never, never, never acceptable.
The dividing lines between democracy and authoritarianism here in the United States and around the world is where we start today with some of our favorite experts and friends.
Former U.S.
Senator Claire McCaskill is here with us, plus the former lead investigator for the January 6th Select Committee, Tim Hafee's here, joining us in a few minutes as he wrestles with New York City traffic is our friend John Heilman.
Let me start with you, Tim Hafee.
I went back and looked at all of Liz Cheney's, not all, but some of Liz Cheney's most memorable, sort of public pronouncements.
And underneath all of them seemed to be almost an anger sliding on desperation for her own party to say out loud what they saw with their own eyes.
It comes out in Mitt Romney's biography, which we've seen exerted in The Atlantic in the last couple of weeks.
It comes out now in President Biden's call for everyone to simply draw the line at saying, No, political violence is never the answer.
kaitlan collins
A lot of the Republicans who are voicing opposition to more funding for Ukraine aren't making those conditions.
Some of them are.
People like Speaker McCarthy is talking about wanting to know where it's going.
But several of them are not.
They're not saying they have questions.
They're just saying no more funding, period.
unidentified
Right, and I think that's still not in the majority.
But I will say that I think it is in our national security interest for Ukraine to win.
But we need to see a plan, and perhaps Congress should be drafting the plan for victory.
And I think that's one of the bigger issues here, is that we don't want a long, dragged-out war.
Putin wants a war of attrition.
And that's what he's getting right now.
And the longer this drags out, the more difficult it's going to be, because he knows he can drive the will of the American people down, and perhaps our European partners.
I want to see Ukraine win, because it has enormous stakes from a national security standpoint.
It will directly impact how Chairman Xi and China views Taiwan.
So now we have the largest invasion in Europe since World War II, greatest threats to the Pacific, and if we don't get this right, We're going to find ourselves having to commit U.S.
troops, which so far we haven't had to commit one U.S.
soldier.
mika brzezinski
More to commiserate about.
House Republicans continue to fight amongst themselves over two critical bills to fund the military and full government.
On the government funding front, a vote planned for yesterday was scrapped after roughly a dozen Republicans said they would not support it.
And some Freedom Caucus members are threatening to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy, if their demands are not met, they are very important.
joe scarborough
You're so important.
Why don't you try it?
mika brzezinski
There are fewer than 11 days left before government funding expires and a full shutdown begins.
Regarding the military spending bill, five Republicans joined all Democrats to kill a vote just to debate The defense funding measure.
All five cited spending as their main reason for voting no.
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and some Republican members who represent Biden-won districts aired their frustrations yesterday.
unidentified
You're asking me a lot of questions.
I'm going to ask the people.
Why are they voting against being in?
Why are they voting against even bringing the bill up to have a discussion about it?
I am pissed off.
joe scarborough
If you're opposed to the bill, vote against the bill at the end.
unidentified
You've got more than 170 amendments, you can change it if you don't like it.
But the idea that you vote against a rule to even bring it up, that makes sense.
I'm disappointed.
I am pissed off.
Our inability to bring this package to a floor vote because of these five individuals who decided to put their personal agendas ahead of the basic requirements of our troops is extremely upsetting to us.
It is a bad look to not be able to get a rule through the floor.
And when you do that, what you've effectively done is hand the keys of the majority over to the minority.
This is not conservative republicanism.
This is stupidity.
The idea that we're going to shut the government down when we don't control the Senate, we don't control the White House.
These people can't define a win.
They don't know how to take yes for an answer.
It's a clown show.
You keep running lunatics, you're going to be in this position.
joe scarborough
Let's start by talking about what you grappled with, with a once-conservative party that turned a hard-right populist anti-immigrant, you say here, that displayed rampant cynicism, ignorance, glibness, and sheer incompetence.
What's the cure for all of that?
unidentified
I think the real cure is that the centre, or the more moderate people, need to sort their act out.
I think, I hate the populists deeply, I resigned from Parliament, I lost my seat because of it, but when I reflect on it, it's not just the fault of the populists like Boris Johnson, it's the fault of us.
We were not communicating well enough.
We weren't leading the country well enough.
And we created the opportunity for the populace to come back.
And this is true in the United States.
It's true in Britain.
It's true across Europe.
It's terrifying.
And it's to do with many things from the economy to social media.
But I think this is the big challenge of the next decade.
joe scarborough
Tell me, why is it that mainstream Republicans, what I used to call Main Street Republicans, Independents and Democrats in the United States, as well as Tories and some Tories and some members of the Labor Party,
Why do we have such a hard time dealing with the firehood of falsehoods, whether they're coming from Boris Johnson's office, or Donald Trump's office, Boris Johnson's campaign, Brexit's campaign, or Donald Trump's campaign?
They're revealed to be lies by video, they're revealed to be lies as time passes, and yet So many people in Britain and the United States stay with these populists who've been caught in lie after lie after lie.
unidentified
I think part of the answer is that there's a little bit of truth hidden in those lies.
And the truth is that the economic system let a lot of people down.
The 2008 financial crisis revealed that there were big problems in our economies.
I think our democracy wasn't performing for many people.
I think Iraq and Afghanistan were humiliating messes.
And of course the populists exploit that kernel of truth.
Their solutions are ridiculous, they're grotesque, they're often racist, they're divisive.
But part of the problem is that moderates like myself Yes, we need to stand up to the populists, but we also need a very clear, bold, emotionally compelling new message of where to take people's future, rather than simply trying to defend the past.
steve bannon
You know what's so good about all this?
If that's the best they're going to put up, Mourning Mika and Joe, her side piece Joe, and the Brit, the moderate Brit, Tory, if that's what they're going to put up against a populist nationalist, Oh, happy day.
It's Wednesday, 20 September, Year of the Lord 2023.
You can tell it is a total and complete meltdown by the Uniparty, by the cartel, as we've been telling you it would be.
The one kind of truth, you know, in the Fog of War, You gotta make sure you get complete and total clarity.
Steve Collinson, and I just put this up on Getter just as we came on air, Steve Collinson, and you never see this guy on CNN, you never see him on TV, right?
He's the writer at the CNN site.
He is by far, if you rolled up all the other people at CNN combined, they're not as smart as this guy.
Now this guy is a true Trump hater and MAGA hater, but he's very smart.
His article today talks about a couple of gimmicks they're thinking of by the moderates to basically work with the Democrats and to get this convoluted thing, to get everything rejected and to push through this bill.
But he goes in and he actually talks about what this fight's about.
He talks about this fight.
He mentions it three times in the article.
I just put it up on Getter.
It's about massive spending cuts.
This is why the defense bill didn't get to the floor yesterday.
This is why the CR died, is blown up.
They're not even talking about that now.
They're looking for other alternatives.
We were promised and there was a commitment.
That through the appropriations process in regular order, of going through each of these appropriations bills, and getting out the woke, getting out the weaponized, and getting out the unnecessary, and having massive cuts, and Massey and others said this was going to happen, and they lied, and McCarthy lied.
They just want to bundle it all up.
That's still what it gets back to.
Just remember, in all the media you see on Fox, and everything you see on CNN, oh it's a government shutdown, government shutdown.
They're all running around, putting mics in people's faces.
They never talk about the central issue.
The central issue that you as head of the creditors committee always keep in the front of your mind.
There's five trillion dollars that comes in cash, and there's seven trillion dollars that goes out.
And that gap, that two trillion dollar gap, now in perpetuity.
Because they don't want to show you financial models, they don't want to show you anything.
That gap is unbridgeable right now.
And that's what this fight is about.
The country is on the precipice of a point of no return.
Tom Massey last night sent out a tweet and said he was mocking Trump.
Trump in 18, about the border wall, about a CR.
CR had the border wall in it.
And I was going to put up, but I didn't have time.
Massey, back when that was put up, the national debt was $21 trillion.
It's $33 today, going to $37 quickly.
The deficit that year was projected to be $400 billion, but it was $700 billion.
As bad as things were, and they were bad, they were manageable if we got on top of it.
And we did not.
Well, we're waiting to see what the House is going to do on a continuing resolution.
I think all of you know I'm not a fan of government shutdowns.
We had the clip. Let me play one clip for I get Posto in here. Posto, we talked about it before. Let's hear the clip.
mitch mcconnell
Well, we're waiting to see what the House is going to do on a continuing resolution. I think all of you know I'm not a fan of government shutdowns. I've seen a few of them over the years.
They never have produced a policy change and they've always been a loser for Republicans politically.
steve bannon
On another issue... That is a bald-faced lie.
Mike Lee and Ted Cruz led the revolt in 2013, I think it was.
Jack DeSoto, help me out here.
Matt Boyle.
I was running Breitbart at the time.
Matt Boyle, Tony Lee were my weapons.
That shutdown Led to a nine-seat pickup, I believe it was, in the Senate.
It gave Mitch McConnell his job in 2014.
Mitch McConnell is the leader because of that shutdown, directly related to the firestorm over Obamacare.
Jack, so we got a minute or two.
I want to hold all your Ukraine stuff till we get through the break, but give me where we are right now in the meltdown of the Uniparty.
jack posobiec
Yeah, Steve, I actually remember that.
So that was October 2013, that government shutdown.
I was working in the intelligence community at that point, and I remember we were all taking turns.
You know, okay, you're going to be gone a couple of days, you're going to be in and you're going to be out this day, you're going to be out that day.
Most people went home.
Here's the dirty little secret.
When the federal government in Washington, D.C.
is shut down and employees are asked to stay home, guess what?
Everything is fine.
The government is fine.
The country is fine.
Life goes on.
Because you've got thousands of these employees that are working, that are considered essential, but then suddenly, just like when Musk fired all those people at Twitter, suddenly Twitter still works, guess what?
So Obama, and we know, put out the statement saying we have to make people find a way To believe the government's actually shut down.
That's why they were shutting down the monuments, the World War II monument.
And then the veterans that came in on the honor flight knocked down the barricades and went into the monument anyway.
They said, we came to D.C.
to see the monument.
We're going in.
It was a complete joke.
They looked foolish.
Obama looked foolish.
I think that Republicans would have the same exact victory.
And then, of course, they went on to win the 2014 midterms.
Huge pickups in the Senate.
All of this predicated on the momentum that started with the government shutdown.
steve bannon
First off, we flipped the Senate.
Mitch McConnell got his job because of the 2014 election.
He sat right there and lied to you.
This, forcing the regime to shut down their own illegitimate government, is a win.
A big win.
unidentified
Jack Posobiec with the dark basement of Ukraine next in the War Room.
Third example is children.
Children.
Unfortunately, various terrorist groups abduct children to put pressure on their families and societies.
But never before the mass kidnapping and deportation would become a part of the government policy.
Not until now.
We know the names of tens of thousands of children and have evidence on hundreds of thousands of others kidnapped by Russia in the occupied territories of Ukraine and later deported.
The International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for Putin for this crime.
And we are trying to get children back home.
But time, time goes by.
What will happen with them?
What will happen to them?
Those children in Russia are taught to hate Ukraine.
And all ties with their families are broken.
And this is clearly a genocide.
When hatred is weaponized against one nation, it never stops there.
jack posobiec
Here, if you want to add, I'd like to help out the Morozovets people with my own, my dossier, my entry on the hit list there.
Go ahead and add this part, that the organ trafficker that was found in Ukraine, that has now put out this video, which we've translated, you can go to humanevents.com and see this.
He's naming the fact that employees of the Ministry of Education were involved in this, that people that were directly known to the government that were funded by Ukrainian tax dollars, guess what that means, they're funded by American tax dollars, including the name of the charity organization that went into this boarding school for orphans.
You know what the charity was called?
Heart of Love.
The charity was called Heart of Love, and it was a front, according to the organ trafficker, for child trafficking and child organ trafficking.
unidentified
Lt.
jack posobiec
Col.
Tony Schafer joins us now.
steve bannon
Tony, when we're hearing this type of information come out... Tony Schafer, the great Tony Schafer from Intel.
So, Jack, and help me out here, brother.
Zelensky admits there's tens of thousands, it kind of garbles it, it's tens of thousands of children and hundreds of thousands of others, or it's a hundred thousand children.
Anyway, he admits there are a huge amount of missing children.
Now he asserts that they've been kidnapped and they're in Russia.
But we don't know that.
To me, that ought to be, and the questions for, you know, but the questions today for Zelensky, when he gets up Thursday, is number one, we know the source of proceeds, American taxpayers.
Use of proceeds, and you notice I didn't say NATO or the wealthy in Switzerland or in Sweden or the Buckingham Palace, all the royalty, there's still a lot of royalty, deadbeat royalty.
In Europe, you don't see any of those guys pitching.
It's you, the taxpayer.
It's MAGA.
So you're the source of funds.
The use of funds, we don't know.
Some went to weapons.
We don't know how much was stolen.
He's fired all his defense chiefs.
Something's up there.
They fired all the guys in charge of recruiting because they were taking kickbacks.
But we also got to find out, and we got to ask hard questions.
Where are the kids?
He admits there's tens to hundreds of thousands of missing kids, children.
You've got evidence that there's a massive child sex and really rape and torture ring, plus organ harvesting.
So should we not demand, as just an entry-level discussion, for him to go through and tell us where the children are?
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, when you're talking about issues like this in this part of the world, we have to understand that the reporting on Ukraine that was done prior to 2022, and not just Ukraine, but many countries in the Black Sea region, has always been known as a hub for child trafficking, for sex trafficking, and also, yes, for organ trafficking.
This is being done where children are targeted.
then brought live by the way, the organs have to be harvested while the children are still live, and then they're sold down to the highest bidder. A lot of these you find in the Middle East, a lot of these you find in other parts of Western Europe at the same time. Now, what's done...
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hit rewind Explain to our audience, what do you mean?
We've done this in the Chinese situation, but I want to be very specific, because in the Chinese situation, it's not specifically kids.
They're organ harvesting from Falun Gong, from the Muslims, from the evangelical Christians, from the people fighting for freedom.
Mainly adults, at least that's what's coming out of the CCP.
Walk me through, when you're saying that they're harvested live, How does one harvest from a little child or a baby?
How do you harvest an organ live, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, you've got to understand that what they're doing is they're looking for an organ to be matched.
And of course, here in the U.S., we have very developed organ banks for this.
You have to have the proper blood type.
You have to have a match.
You have to have a healthy organ.
Uh, et cetera, et cetera.
We know we need all these things done.
Many of these countries, including China, by the way, the organ bank services, but China's trying also, by the way, to set up, uh, clone organs for the purposes of this.
There's a whole separate conversation.
But, uh, what they're doing is they're looking at these kids, not as, not as a child, they're looking at, okay, this one is a positive, this one's a negative, B, O, et cetera, universal donor.
Uh, they're looking at the children as a menu.
And so, all right, we know this kid's got two healthy kidneys, this one's got two lungs, this one's got another couple of pieces here, and then you match the child with what the purchaser, so with the organ receiver, is looking for.
That's what the traffickers are doing.
And so their target, the children, and so what they're doing in, at least according to our reporting from humanevents.com, and everyone can go see this, That they were using this front charity known as Heart of Love and a boarding school right on the border with Slovakia that was tied into orphanages, that was tied into parents who had been killed, parents who were missing.
Steve, it was also tied into surrogacy centers.
And so this has been reported widely that Ukraine is one of the top countries for surrogates.
Well, Steve, what they'll do sometimes is they'll send a report back saying, oh, there was a problem with your surrogacy, the child didn't make it, the fetus didn't attach, the embryo, etc., complications, miscarriage, stillbirth, etc.
But and then the person, wherever they are in the world, gets a report back saying, oh, it didn't work.
But actually, that's not the truth.
In fact, in some of these cases, the child was born and then the child that no one knows about and isn't registered anywhere get sent into one of these organizations.
And again, As horrific as this sounds, this is all coming directly from a video recorded in prison by an arrested child trafficker in Ukraine.
Everyone can go see it.
Everyone can read the subtitles.
We've had it translated twice.
We've had it checked and double checked.
And you can go see.
These are his words.
These are not mine.
He talks about Ministry of Education employees and officials being involved in this.
He talks about police being involved with this.
They say the children get sent.
Oh, they're told, oh, we're going to go.
We've got an adoption run in Western Europe.
We take 23 at a time.
Well, Steve, I don't know if you ever worked or done any adoptions or know anyone who's gone through adoptions.
You don't do have mass adoptions.
That's not how that works.
It's usually one-to-one.
So what they're doing is they're taking the children around as a sort of menu that they're offering to people around the world.
And then 25 go out, 23 come back.
Then 20 go out, 15 come back.
Some go out for one night, they come back the next morning.
Police officers being involved.
They use the summer, the winter holidays, etc.
All of this.
And by the way, Steve, this is going back to 2014.
This goes back years.
And so what this war has done is only exacerbated the situation because now you've got missing children all over the place.
You've got parents who were killed.
You've got children that were separated.
Now in many of these cases with Russia, Russia, of course, claims that these are evacuations and displaced people's camps trying to get the kids to safety.
On the other side, this very same situation, this is what the International Criminal Court has issued their warrant on Vladimir Putin.
That's why I couldn't go to the BRICS meeting.
It's over this very issue because they're saying Russia isn't giving the information out as to where these kids are.
These are the children of the Donbass.
These are the children of the Russian-speaking side, where Ukraine, and this is one of the reasons I was put on this Morodborets hit list, that Ukraine has been shelling them for years and blaming it on the Russians.
This is the exact same situation that happened when Blinken was over there with Victoria Nuland just a couple of weeks ago.
I report it.
They call me a liar.
They put me on this hit list.
And now you got this freak, Mike Cirillo, who calls himself Sarah now, saying that they're going to hunt me down.
Then even the New York Times comes out and says, no, this was definitely a Ukrainian missile.
So Steve, at the bottom line here is that even Zelensky there at the United Nations admits that there are tens or potentially hundreds of thousands of missing children coming out of Ukraine and that's being used as Tim Ballard, another guy they're trying to take out right now, has being used as harvest season for the traffickers.
steve bannon
Kaviso told me, we've had a number of meetings with Jim, Kaviso told me that Ukraine's the center of much of this. It's the heart of darkness of this.
And Zelensky's admitted to him.
Now, Jack, and I've got to hold you through the break.
I know you've got to go, but this is too important.
Real quickly, what is Jack Posobiec, just in this, we'll leave the assassination attempt to after the break, in this regard, what should McCarthy and the Republicans demand of Zelensky when they meet with him?
Give me 45 seconds on that.
About the children.
jack posobiec
Well, number one, there's no money.
No money that comes out until this question is answered.
That's obviously number one.
Number two, we've got to have American investigators going in there, looking through everything with full access.
Full access, boots on the ground, and then finally, it's simple.
The way you stop this is by stopping the war.
Because by stopping the war, then everything goes back to zero, everything resets, and we can finally just try to get some kind of accounting as to what's going on with the children.
Number three, by the way, you've got to go into these baby farms, these baby factory surrogate centers that are running illegally in Ukraine.
People are doing this.
It's completely off the books.
They say the kid didn't make it.
But actually, it turns out that they're sending them over to these child and organ traffickers.
This is disgusting, this is sick, and we need to put a stop to it because our tax dollars are funding it.
steve bannon
You're underwriting this, folks, remember.
You.
You are underwriting this.
Right now, they've got you underwriting this.
It's all about to change.
Short break.
Posobiec, Natalie Winters, Darren Beattie, Murderer's Road next in the War Room.
unidentified
...say that I think it is in our national security interest for Ukraine to win.
But we need to see a plan, and perhaps Congress should be drafting the plan for victory.
And I think that's one of the bigger issues here, is that we don't want a long, dragged-out war.
Putin... Hang on.
steve bannon
Let me have it.
I want to just cut that.
I want to cut it tight.
That's perfect.
A Jack Passova case.
First off, nobody knows this area of the world better than Passova that's an American.
Trust me.
Except for Victoria Nuland and those people that are... Unless she knows a lot more than me, because she's the one who's doing it.
I'd ask for her allegiance, the audience to come to their own conclusion.
jack posobiec
Is she an American?
I'm not sure.
steve bannon
We'd have to check.
I've got an open question.
A very open question.
And by the way, that is what this Congress should be doing also, the deep investigation.
Where is that?
Oh, next week we're going to get the impeachment.
We're going to get, you know, we're going to get a, we're going to get a, you know, finally subpoenas, all of it.
It's nine months too late.
We got to start.
Well, let's start the process.
I hope Stefanik steps in there and gets some water.
Garland's live testimony in front of the House, when he starts getting lit up, because he's defiant today.
His opening statement, he's up in your face.
Daring Congress to step in and defund DOJ.
So this is what it's about.
It's about defunding, defanging, de-weaponizing, and massive cuts.
Massive cuts.
Let's do regular order in the appropriations.
Let's see who all the liars are who promise these cuts.
Let's get it on right now.
We won.
Jack Posobiec, before I get back to Ukraine.
In 2014, we had one of the biggest victories.
It was the predicate to 2016.
We took the Senate.
Mitch McConnell, that clown's job, and he ought to be removed immediately, that clown's job was because of the shutdown of the heroes Mike Lee and Ted Cruz, and they were viciously vilified.
And I know that because Breitbart was at the center of that, just like the worms at the center of this.
And the great Matt Boyle and Tony Lee and others were hammering it every day.
And we won that.
Obama lost it.
We took the Senate.
We held the House and took the Senate.
This is why when Trump won, they come from behind in 16.
Hey, baby, we had the House and the Senate.
We had all the government for one short moment in time predicated upon the victory of 14, predicated upon the shutdown.
We can win shutdowns.
And here's the reason.
They hide all the information.
They're running around.
unidentified
Oh, it's a shutdown.
It's a shutdown.
steve bannon
It's a shutdown.
The central issue is the financial implosion of the United States of America.
And Tom Massie, when he sent that ridiculous tweet last night, when Trump said that the debt was $21 trillion, the deficit that you're supposed to be $400 billion, that's Trump change now.
Turn it to be $700 billion?
This total spending was only four trillion?
Only four trillion.
It was four trillion dollars.
You're going back to ancient Rome.
Talk about today, brother, when you screwed the country.
You and people in Kentucky are to hold you responsible and turf you out.
Because if you had held to your values, the whole rule wouldn't have passed, and we wouldn't have the debt ceiling deal.
The debt ceiling deal is on the shoulders of Tom Massey.
And Massey, I thought they taught you to count at MIT.
Clearly, they didn't, or you missed that lesson.
Pasovic, we got McCall.
This is how out of control these people are.
You have McCall, And by the way, McCaul should not do, he should not do interviews after the sun is over the yardarm.
Do you agree, Jack Posobiec?
After the sun is over the yardarm, McCarthy and those guys should take the mic away.
He should do early mornings, you know, after a cup of coffee, nursing a hangover, that's when he should do it.
Because yesterday was not his best.
He's calling, on this show we have demanded that the House force Biden to come on the War Powers Act.
Which I'm not even sure is constitutional.
Best we got.
And make the case to Congress for this.
Make the case for Congress.
Why are we there?
What is the plan?
Why is this not Vietnam?
Why is this not Afghanistan?
Why is this not Iraq?
We've lost enough men and women.
We've spent enough money.
We've spread ourselves all over the map.
Come and do it.
McCaul sits there, Jack.
McCaul says that Congress should write a plan, should draft a plan for victory.
The United States Congress, the House of Representatives, the Republican majority should draft, we should craft a plan for victory in Ukraine, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, I can talk about a victory in Ukraine, because the victory in Ukraine that we need, that they should be talking about, is a victory for the Ukrainian families, and especially the Ukrainian children.
Because you hear these people up there, and I think it was the Washington Post, they said something about how, oh, everything is working in Ukraine, everything is great, maybe even foreign policy.
But, you know, except for the United States, the empire is running hard, Russia is putting up their forces.
In fact, the only people that are losing are the Ukrainian people.
What, the Ukrainian people are losing?
Oh, you mean the children that are going lost?
You mean the women that are being lost?
You mean the men that are fighting at the front lines that are being sent into the meat grinder of the bloodlands in the East?
You're gonna send them over for- and you see these little blips, these little- they say, oh, look at the blue!
We've taken back Robertinia!
We've taken back this hill!
We've taken back a couple of shacks out in a, you know, in a pasture somewhere down there in southern Ukraine.
Meanwhile, the Russians are completely dug in.
This is exactly the fight that they wanted, and they're sitting there wondering why it is that the Ukrainian army and Zelensky is sending them all to their deaths the same way he sent all the deaths of the people to Bakhmut when they were up against Prigozhin, when he was still running the show.
And so, no, I don't think that they are winning for the Ukrainian people.
Victory for the Ukrainian people means they stop dying and the children's organs stop being harvested.
That's victory in Ukraine.
steve bannon
Jack, what are we going to do?
Zelensky's here with the Beggar Bowl this week, and Brian Donald said it best.
There's no money.
We've got a $2 trillion deficit, dude.
There's all kinds of Ukrainian stuff packed into this budget, and that's why the defense budget shouldn't be passed.
One of the many reasons.
But another $24 billion supplemental in your face, we don't even know what the money's going for.
And they put you on an assassination list.
What are you demanding of Zelensky and the House about this assassination that has put you and your lovely family Your young, beautiful wife and your two great kids at risk here, sir.
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, it's not just about me.
It's about every American that's on that list.
There's an American right now that the State Department last night confirmed to Breitbart.com, Gonzalo Lira, that is being held hostage in a Ukrainian prison.
Why would the U.S.
House, I'd love to go up to any of these Congress, especially the Republicans, because I'm harder on them.
than I am the Democrats because that's my side and the effectiveness of a lobbying institution should be based on the leverage it has over its own side.
Why are we giving another penny to a government that is holding an American blogger, an American reporter, in prison for his words?
Why?
Why is Gonzalo Lira not been released?
Why is he not being talked about extradition?
Why hasn't the U.S.
Embassy gotten involved when Blinken's over there when Victoria Nuland's over there?
Did they even ask about him?
Did they even mention this?
It's an absolute affront, Steve.
We all know how this would be playing out if this were Russia, if this were China, if this were Iran.
You got the hostages back for Iran, six billion dollars.
Six billion dollars for Iran, but you won't do anything for the American citizens that are held in Ukraine.
Every American should be taken off that list.
Full apology and restitution to anyone or any family that has been affected by this.
steve bannon
Postova, we've got to talk afterwards.
We've got to get you some security.
Under no circumstances will that beautiful family of yours be attacked.
And this is where we are now.
A country we've given $140 billion.
Can we play?
I tell you what, let's play Mitch McConnell, and then I want to get the freak up.
The freak with the bad wig.
Postova, let's play McConnell again.
I want to just go back in time.
Here's the thing.
They're lying to your face.
Properly structured and properly laid out and make the case that the country is about to fall off the cliff.
We can win shutdowns.
People hate this government.
They hate the spending.
Every poll's out there.
There's a new poll from Rasmussen coming out today.
33% of the Democrats, a third of the Democrats would vote for Bobby, a third of the Democrats, at least in this poll, would vote for Bobby Kennedy in a general election if he ran third party.
Hello?
Hello?
Let's play McConnell lying to your face.
mitch mcconnell
Well, we're waiting to see what the House is going to do on a continuing resolution.
I think all of you know I'm not a fan of government shutdowns.
I've seen a few of them over the years.
They never have produced a policy change and they've always been a loser for Republicans politically.
steve bannon
On another issue... That is a bald-faced lie.
That decrepit Evil old man is in his position because of the shutdown of 2013.
The heroes of Mike Lee of Utah and Ted Cruz of Texas leading a shutdown.
And I got to give a hat tip to Breitbart at the time.
It was amazing.
Matt Boyle was all over this.
And I just wish Matt Boyle would join us on our current crusade.
The shutdown was a massive.
We held the House.
We held the House and took the Senate.
That was the predicate for the Trump revolution in 16.
This is why, why do you think at Breitbart I knew that Trump was going to be the man in 14 and 15 coming off of this?
It's not brain surgery.
They're going to lie to your face right there because they're so afraid of what the Uniparty and the media says.
They're liars and they're incompetent liars.
Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, we remember the turnout.
The American people responded to this message of economic populism.
And you're right.
It was first championed by those Republicans in October 2013, led to the red wave of 2014.
Nine Senate seats, nine Senate seats, many of which were flips, by the way.
Um, and then 13 seats in the house.
Huge red wave election because the American people are sick of their money being wasted.
They're sick of their money being sent overseas.
They're sick of their money going to help people who are not American citizens.
That's what the America First message is all about.
Economic, populist, nationalism.
And when you look at these situations that we get ourselves into, uh, remember this is back when Barack Obama was fun and you had Republicans.
Like John McCain who was around back then.
We don't say that guy's name anymore.
Like McCain and Lindsey Graham and Rubio.
Remember this.
We're gonna go fund the moderate jihadis.
Remember moderate jihadis in Syria to knock off Assad.
Then we're gonna fund The moderate jihadis in Libya to take out Gaddafi, the best-dressed dictator in the world.
And then you've got all this other stuff going on.
It leads to the creation of ISIS.
And now look at who we are funding in Ukraine.
You look at who we're funding.
So when I sit there, Steve, I'm not worried about people on this list.
steve bannon
I'm not worried about being put on this list.
jack posobiec
I'm not worried about this, because I'll tell you something right now.
I'll tell you something right now.
Because every night, we pray that the sword of St.
Michael strikes down these demons before us, and the sword of St.
Michael will defend us in this.
It will.
steve bannon
Tell you, the Basobics, that's a role model family.
Blockbuster News, Rand Paul just came out.
Even as we speak, Rand Paul came out and said, under no circumstances, and in the Senate, one guy, under no circumstances will anything go forward that has a penny to Ukraine.
We're winning this one, baby.
I want to leave, I want to get this freak, the freak with the bad wig.
People don't understand the pressure.
This is why Posobiec and the family, and his beautiful wife, and tough wife, and smarter than Posobiec, you know, Posobiec married up.
This is why they're a role model.
You don't understand the pressure.
They're under pressure of assassination.
Think about that.
A mom with a couple little kids.
The husband.
Let's see what this freak, and this comes from Zelensky's government, what you're paying for.
Let's hear it.
unidentified
Let's see it.
And this puppet of Putin is only the first.
Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down and justice will be served as we in Ukraine are led on this mission by faith in God, liberty, and complete liberation.
steve bannon
Jack, what's your social media?
How did they get to the show, brother?
I know today is going to be red hot.
jack posobiec
Human events, it's 2 p.m., we're gonna get into it, and my response to Zelensky and his government, anyone who's dealing with these demons, here's what's gonna happen.
The sword of Saint Michael will come for you.
Are you ready for what happens when the sword of Saint Michael the Archangel comes for you?
unidentified
Amen, brother.
steve bannon
Jack Posobiec, American patriot and hero.
unidentified
Back to Mom.
This is Leah Thomas.
He's a male that claims he's a woman, and he won an NCAA title last year at the Women's Swimming and Diving Championships.
This is the trophy that Thomas and I tied for.
It's a trophy that Thomas got to take home, and I went home empty-handed.
And this is trans rights activist Andy Beshear.
He vetoed legislation that would ban men from competing in women's sports.
And this is Daniel Cameron.
He's running against Andy Beshear.
He'll protect women and our sports.
steve bannon
Okay, and the 30 Front War, this is another thing that these freaks, they're doing, putting these freaks in to compete against women.
You gotta understand, for her to get there, this is what Captain Bannon, Malcolm Gladwell wrote this book years ago about excellence.
It takes 10,000 hours, he calculated, 10,000 hours to basically understand your craft and be able to start to perfect it.
10,000 hours.
Roughly, I think that's five years of your life.
10,000 hours.
How many times was she in the pool?
Her parents take her at five o'clock in the morning before school to get in that cold pool.
And every day, the discipline.
This is why women's sports has been so amazing for helping build this country.
The character and the determination.
Mo, every day.
unidentified
For years and years and years and years and years.
steve bannon
And these freaks like Bershara are gonna let a six foot two guy?
Let's just get it down to the basics.
They're going to try to destroy the empowerment of women.
Brother Terry Schilling, fabulous ad.
Why did you do it?
Why'd you make it?
How big a deal is this going to be in Kentucky?
terry schilling
Well, Steve, you had me on last Friday where we unveiled the first ad that we were running, and we raised over $1.5 million from that ad, brought in several hundred donations.
We wanted to run this ad, though, because Democrats like Andy Beshear in 2019 said that this wasn't happening, that men weren't competing against girls, that it wasn't happening in Kentucky.
Well, You can't really claim that when we get Riley Gaines in a campaign ad who's a University of Kentucky graduate and lost a championship to a man.
It's a very powerful ad.
It shifts the electorate about six points in our message testing.
And we're going to put a lot of that $1.5 million behind it.
Our goal is to raise over $2 million for this project.
And we're going to contact, we're going to make millions and millions of voter contacts Andy Beshears branded himself as a moderate.
He's been uplifted by the media locally as a moderate.
So he's getting a lot of support from Republicans.
unidentified
Hold it.
steve bannon
Stop.
Full stop.
He's a trans rights activist, correct?
terry schilling
That's what we're branding him as.
How can he claim that he's not a trans rights activist when he's vetoing legislation that would simply keep men out of girls' sports?
That's not a moderate person.
That's a radical.
He vetoed a piece of legislation that would ban sex changes for minors, Steve.
That's not moderate.
That's radical.
steve bannon
Radical.
He's a radical activist.
And this situation about women's sports is to destroy the empowerment of these magnificent young women that dedicate their lives as kids, as children.
Think about the discipline.
Think about your own life.
How disciplined would that make me?
I was not.
Mo's discipline back when she was a kid was a thousand times more than I was.
I was just some goofball kid, you know, running around playing a bunch of different sports, having fun.
These people are focused on excellence.
On excellence from a very young age.
Pre-team, and focus, and what you're doing is bringing guys in to compete against him.
It's an outrage, and he ought to be turfed up.
Folks in Kentucky, you gotta get on top of things here.
You're a great state, amazing Patriots.
You got Mitch McConnell, you got Brashear, and you got, no offense, Tom Massey over there talking smack about President Trump.
terry schilling
I don't know why it's doing that.
There we go, I think I fixed it.
steve bannon
Terry, we don't need to see your lovely face.
We're gonna play this spot again.
Where do people go to support you and get in back of this spot?
terry schilling
Just go, look, we're trying to raise the last quarter of this budget.
Go to lyingandy.com.
L-Y-I-N-G andy.com.
Give us some support.
It's all going to these ads and text messages and digital campaign.
We got to get this message out that he's a radical and, uh, and I don't like this guy.
He's a real, he's a real SOB.
steve bannon
Perfect, perfect.
Okay, thank you.
Great, Ed.
Let's bring in Darren Beattie.
I don't want to play the cold opens room.
I'll try again to the next hour.
Matt Gates is about to put put a garland on the grill.
We'll go live to that.
We got a big surprise guest in the second hour.
Beattie, they really, they made you shut up yesterday because the feds really went out.
And got our guy Ray Epps.
And the big headline is, you know, the election deniers and J6 insurrectionists all got to shut up now because Ray Epps has been charged.
Your assessment of that fake news, sir?
darren j beattie
Absolutely.
Case closed.
I guess we were all wrong all along.
You know, after two, over two and a half years after January 6th, the feds decide kind of perfunctorily to do this bungled Half-assed, wrist-slap, misdemeanor indictment on Ray Epps.
And then, you know, it's all over.
You know, he can't, there's nothing to see here anymore.
I mean, that's literally how the mainstream media is presenting this story, including our favorite janitor, our favorite mop-up man for the regime, Mr. Alan Foyer, who reported on this and said, oh, the fact that Ray Epps was indicted for a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct
2.5 years, over 2.5 years after January 6th, this severely undermines those pesky conspiracy theories pointing to all sorts of bizarre features of Epps' behavior on the 5th and the 6th.
I mean, just for context, this comes at the heels of some severely, severely tough sentencing handed down to Proud Boys Like Enrique Tarrio who got 22 years and there's Joe Biggs who got 17 years.
Tarrio, like Epps, never went into the Capitol.
Tarrio actually wasn't even present in D.C.
on the 6th.
They said Tarrio was a member of a conspiracy.
He engaged in seditious conspiracy because he helped to orchestrate the events.
The only issue is there's really little evidence Tarrio did anything of the sort.
Whereas with Epps, he literally texted his nephew bragging That he was on the front lines and he quote-unquote orchestrated it, referring to his role in January 6th.
And the classic Revolver piece, Revolver.news, the several pieces we did on him that feature video certainly confirm Epps' own assessment that indeed he played an orchestrating role.
So the question is, why would the feds wait so long to do this wrist slap It really does seem like it's this bungled attempt to salvage the absolutely destroyed official narrative that they were trying to shove down our throats, but it's too little too late.
They can't salvage the narrative over two and a half years later with a bogus, ridiculous misdemeanor charge.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
We're going to take a short break.
We've got a lot of ground to cover in the second hour, including Gates' grilling of Merrick Garland.
Natalie's with us.
Ben Harnwell's with us.
We've got a surprise guest.
B's with us.
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