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Sept. 18, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 375: Zelensky Pleads For Millions More
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ben harnwell
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
We're defending the values of the whole world, Zelensky said.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
scott pelley
In We are dying.
We're not fiction.
We're not a book.
We're fighting for real, with a nuclear state that threatens to destroy the world.
The United States has contributed about $70 billion to your war effort, and I wonder if you expect that level of support to continue.
The United States of America is supporting Ukraine financially, and I'm grateful for this.
I just think they're not supporting only Ukraine alone.
If Ukraine falls, Putin will surely go further.
What will the United States of America do when Putin reaches the Baltic states, when he reaches the Polish border?
He will.
This is a lot of money.
We have a lot of gratitude.
What else must Ukraine do for everyone to measure our huge gratitude?
unidentified
We are dying in this war.
scott pelley
Look, if Ukraine falls, what will happen in 10 years?
Just think about it.
If the Russians reach Poland, what's next?
A third world war?
What will it take?
Another 70 billion?
I don't have an answer.
The whole world has to decide whether we want to stop Putin or whether we want to start the beginning of a world war.
We can't change Putin.
Russian society has lost the respect of the world.
They elected him and re-elected him and raised a second Hitler.
They did this.
We cannot go back in time, but we can stop it here.
unidentified
I am convinced that if the Ukrainian military doesn't stop and repel that Russian invasion, it's not going to be too long before that Russian army crosses a border that our men and women in uniform are going to have to go and fight under our NATO treaty.
So we were talking to our cab driver or Uber driver.
So this is where all the Ukraine money's gone.
Thanks, fucking Biden.
He said he's never seen so many Ukrainians in Monte Carlo.
steve bannon
Monday, 18th September, Eurovillor 2023.
Zelensky is coming, but it's not quite the showtime it was last time because people have wised up.
To what the con is here.
Uh, and of course, 60 minutes slobbers all over him last night.
Couldn't even answer.
Didn't have enough respect for this audience to deal with you straight and answer the question.
The 70 billion, by the way, is just the military.
It doesn't include, it doesn't include what we've paid.
This typical 60 minutes doesn't include what we're paying in their pensions and their healthcare.
Do you have a pension?
Do you have a fully funded pension fund right now?
Pension plan?
Do you have a fully funded medical?
No, I'm sure you don't.
You got it if you're in the Ukraine on your tax money.
Does that make you feel good?
You ready to embrace that?
Zelensky's coming this week.
I keep saying any Republican that has a photo op with him ought to be turfed out in the primary season next year because you've put the globalist policies
And the sovereignty of Ukraine on the Eastern-speaking Russian border, which they've been fighting for thousands of years, and, you know, they've got this border dispute that has nothing to do with American national security, much less being in the vital, remember, it's the vital national security interests of the United States where we have to get engaged, like over in Taiwan and the South China Sea.
But here he's coming this week, Ben Hornwell from Rome.
A couple of the three... Ben, if the 70 billion in the offensive and 60 minutes asked him no tough questions, not even tough questions, just logical questions on how the great offensive is going.
The offensive is going so well.
I just want to tell the audience, here's how well it's going.
Don't take it from me.
Don't take it from Ben Harnwell or the Citizens Free Press people or any, you know.
I just saw a speech from the Gray Zone.
Max Blumenthal, who quite frankly was Andrew Breitbart's biggest nemesis, gave an amazing speech at the Ron Paul Institute.
They called Ukraine the Big Israel.
And walk through kind of the logic of how we're going to be permanently involved in this.
They've already set the structures that we're going to continue to pay for this, whether you vote it out or not, being as anti-democratic as possible.
But Ben, what tells me that he's on a roll and things are very successful in this spring offensive, which they all bragged about has been going so great.
They fired their defense minister, I think 10 days ago.
It just came across the wire this morning that these six Six, count them, top deputies.
Six top deputies in the Ministry of Defense were all terminated over the weekend.
I'm sure, Ben, that has nothing to do with how successful the Spring Offensive has been and where'd the money go.
Because, you know, they've been stealing with both hands and that's how you see the, what they refer to as Ukrainian battleships.
The Ukrainian Surface Navy down there in Monte Carlo partying Good afternoon, Steve.
ben harnwell
Well, yes, I mean, the tone is very different from what it was back in December when President Zelensky made his last visit to the United States.
And you mentioned just now that Alexei Reznikov, the sacked Ukrainian defense minister was often implicated never quite directly But with corruption and huge disappearances of money that was going into Ukraine Interestingly when those six deputy ministers, those six deputy defense ministers were sacked this morning
The government of Ukraine made a special point of mentioning that they won't be invited back under the new minister.
This isn't just a case of them handing in their resignations, let the new minister decide what he wants to do and perhaps some of the better ones can be brought back or have their portfolios rearranged and reshuffled.
The government made a point of saying they won't be coming back.
Now, so the question is why?
Now, I'd say there are two reasons, potential reasons.
One, because of Ukrainian domestic political opinion, which is a very, I think, weighty consideration.
But given the timing, Steve, given the timing that tomorrow President Zelensky is coming to the United States with an all-out pitch now, of which the US military industrial complex, together with the mainstream media, have already started their production, of which the 60 minutes that we saw just a few minutes ago, the excerpt there, is the hors d'oeuvre of what we're going to see now from tomorrow up until the White House meeting on Thursday.
They are going all out now.
This is a direct appeal to the American taxpayer and to the political class to stay the course and keep the money going.
Obviously, you know, the background music to this is the 24 billion that President Biden has asked for or demanded from Congress.
And let's see what the eventual response is going to be on that.
So I would say that the reason that the six defence ministers, the six deputy defence ministers have sacked is because of the visit.
So the question is.
Who called for this?
This was probably the Department of Defense saying, before you come Zelensky, let's sort this out.
We need a Ukrainian war 2.0 in order to prepare the American public for the hit that's coming.
That's certainly, I think, the principal interpretation of this, the timing taking place right now, today, that I personally would have myself.
steve bannon
Walk me through, so walk me through where we are right now, because he's coming, he couldn't even answer, you would think a guy, he's taken $70 billion in aid, in military aid, he's taken, that's just from us.
He's taken out the tens of billions, I think the number's $120 to $130 billion, all in, because we're paying $5 billion a month, we are paying $5 billion a month to support his government.
Where does it stand with the Europeans?
Because I keep saying if it's so vital, if you're talking about the Balkans, you're talking about Poland, where are the Europeans?
That's a European, sounds like a European issue to me.
Where's Europe in that regard?
Finland just joined NATO.
Where's Finland's money?
Where's Sweden's money?
Where's that 1.5 trillion?
Remember there's 5 million Norwegians.
Look, I'd love me some Norwegians.
Great country.
Been there.
Fantastic people.
They got a 1.5 trillion dollar sovereign wealth fund off the North Sea oil and they're some of the smartest investors in the world.
Where's that?
Where's the guys down in Stade?
Where are all the Swiss, you know, the big Swiss money guys?
The Swiss bankers.
Where are all those beautiful locations in Switzerland?
Where are all the Swiss?
Where are the French?
Where are the Germans?
Where is Spain?
Where is Italy?
Go to Tuscany and Florence.
These places, they're mind-boggling in their wealth.
They're mind-boggling in their beauty.
Where's the royal family?
Where's, where's, where's, where's, where's Buckingham Palace and all this?
And so the capitals of Europe, where are they thinking about this?
Because I see them getting happy feet to wit.
The Poles, I think Slovenia and Hungary are all saying we're not taking a Ukrainian grain.
And Ukraine just announced this morning they're going to take them to the World Trade Organization.
They're in a fight right there because they're saying, hey, they're undercutting.
They're going to undercut our farmers.
Our farmers are not going to make any money.
Ben Harnwell from the capitals of Europe, where do they stand?
ben harnwell
Well, you just mentioned Hungary.
Hungary has played another blinder, saying that it's potentially... it doesn't quite know whether it needs to...
to approve the entrance of Sweden into NATO.
Now, this is an internal debate in Hungary, but of course, if they don't formally ratify that membership, that decision membership, then Sweden can't join.
So there are murmurings taking place in continental Europe.
I would say, however, that the biggest indication now that the European Union is not going to be leading the way anymore, as perhaps it might have been hoping to do 12 months ago, is the fact that The European Union's largest economy, its largest country, Germany, is heading into recession now.
It can't afford it.
As much as it would like to, perhaps.
I'm not even sure about that.
I think Olaf Schultz was pretty much bullied by the US into toeing some sort of line.
I just don't think it's going to be happening anymore.
At least, you know, and if Germany can't afford it, you know, and that's the strongest economy in the Union, then the other countries can't do it either.
I think they're going to start looking at their toes.
when the hat comes round rather than putting any money in directly.
But you were mentioning, Lit Luke, you were mentioning again this 60 minutes thing.
I want to draw a line here for our posse here.
There's something, I mean, in real life, We saw again in the cold open Mike Pence saying rather bizarrely that we might end up having US boots on the ground there in order to fulfil treaty obligations.
Perhaps you would like to cite which treaty that's going to be, because it doesn't look like it would be the NATO treaty, unless perhaps he's forgotten that Ukraine isn't presently a member.
That is easy to forget for a globalist political class.
I have a couple of quotations that Zelensky came out with in this interview, because the reason I said that this was a military industrial complex, mainstream media production, is that they signal it in order to prepare the American public for this visit that starts tomorrow.
They signally, 60 minutes, signally failed to ask the one question that I think is absolutely important when Zelensky is saying this is important here because if he invades Ukraine he's going to go on to Poland, this is like a second Hitler and so on.
Basically every citation he has is that.
The natural pushback And as much as, you know, do you think 70 billion is going to be enough?
How much do you envisage spending for the rest of the war?
That's a very valid question for an American journalist to pose, considering that it's largely America that's paying for this war.
unidentified
But above and beyond that, the question is, is these things true?
ben harnwell
Are these things true, that Putin is a second Hitler on the verge of World War III here, and that Ukraine is the last bulwark stopping the Russian army flooding all the way through from the east into the rest of the European continent?
That's the real question to ask, because if it's not true, where is America's vital national interest?
So, again, Zelensky, in every single interview, he's now pushing this out, trying to make the connection in the American taxpayer's mind between, okay, Ukraine is the last bulwark here, and if they're not stopped there, then the troops will come in and perhaps that will fire off NATO Article 5.
But to ask the question, is this true?
Is it true?
And to push him back, push President Zelensky back directly and say, is this true that President Putin has designed like a second Kremlin?
a second Hitler, is this true that Putin has these designs to occupy the whole of Europe?
Because if that is true, then there would be a legitimate question for supporting Ukraine as America supported Great Britain in the Second World War.
But if it's not true, that whole pretext evaporates and disappears.
And the reason I say that this was a production from the MIC and the mainstream media is that they didn't ask the one question that any journalist who's following this would desperately like to ask President Zelensky, are these things true?
Are there any backup...
I see zero evidence of this being the case.
to suggest that this is true.
Because see, from where I'm following this, and I've been following this like for 10 hours a day, 12 hours a day for the last 18 months, I see zero evidence of this being the case.
I see zero evidence that Vladimir Putin is a second Hitler that wants to come and occupy the whole of continental Europe.
And I think it's a rather preposterous claim as well for Zelensky or anybody else to make, at least without any backup argument supporting it.
Of course, there aren't any backup arguments supporting it because it's really not true.
It's just a pretext, an artificial, synthetic pretext in order to present to the American public, to bludgeon them around the head.
Obviously, the mainstream media is compliant in this to get out not only the 24 billion that they currently want, but dollars without end, Steve.
That's basically what Zelensky is trying to achieve here.
Just an open tap with a open-ended tap with dollars without end.
steve bannon
Let's go back to, I wanna remind people that it's basically been essentially confirmed by German intelligence, a lot of intelligence, that the Ukrainians are the ones, you talk about the economy in Germany faltering, The Ukrainians went after the pipeline, right?
I mean, the Ukrainians have been working against the interests of the United States from the beginning of this.
How does he not have, how does he not have in his fingertips, when the guy says we put $70 billion in, he's got a $24 billion request.
And Zelensky's handlers, by the way, which threaten, we should play that, if I can get that up, producer, I want to play the Charlie, I want to play the whole thing of the Ukrainian, whatever this dude is, with the bad wig, threatening us, and then Charlie Kirk's response to that.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
Can we get that up?
The one we played last week.
Don't look like it's something you've never heard of.
We've played it a couple times last week.
My crack production staff here.
So, Zelensky coming this time.
They still got the arrogance.
They threatened anybody that at least mentioned How the Russian people had been our allies in World War Two.
They're saying people are pro-Putin apologists.
We're not apologists.
I've said from the beginning, the KGB and the CCP are two sides of the same coin.
But we abandoned We abandoned the Russian people to Stalin and his criminal element after the war.
And essentially, we abandoned them even after the Berlin Wall fell.
We got in business with the oligarchs, oligarch to oligarch, and kept these guys in power.
And they're bad units.
They're bad as the CCP.
But the Russian people have always been our allies.
Unlike, I don't know, Ben, What is it, two-thirds or half of the people in Ukraine fought with the Nazis in World War II?
That entire tribute to the Jewish people in Kiev is because of the slaughter, not just by German troops, but by Ukrainian troops fighting alongside the Wehrmacht.
It's unpleasant to bring that up in polite company, but those dems is the facts.
So, how does Zelensky get off saying, when the guy says 70 billion, which is only half of what we put in, and he doesn't even have enough respect for people to address the 24 billion that he's over here with this tin cup to beg the American people to put in, sir?
ben harnwell
Well, you know, where did he get off?
In a sense, he's now in a position where he doesn't have very much choice.
I sort of suspect that he never intended when Zelensky and his government sort of cooperated with the US in creating the pretext for Russia to invade.
I don't think Zelensky ever expected this to become a full-on war.
I think he expected a few cities to be bombed, or what have you, and then he'd hit the US.
It'd last a few days, and then they'd gracefully surrender.
And then the U.S.
would come in with tens of billions of dollars to rebuild the damage.
And of course, I do often refer on Goethe to President Zelensky as President Tempestsky, because I think that was pretty much the plan for him and his top oligarchs to cream off 10 percent or who knows what the percentage would be on the rebuilding of Ukraine.
I don't think what Zelensky ever expected was when he came out or protected politically even wanted when he came out and sort of begged the US and the UK and other countries to come in support, that they would actually do so, that they would so cripple their own national interest that they would sort of flood in and give public assurances of, you know, until, well, what's the expression that Biden always uses?
We're with Ukraine and we'll give Ukraine whatever it takes until the end.
I don't think Zelensky expected that.
unidentified
And of course, in that situation, he couldn't back down.
steve bannon
He says, whatever it takes, however long it takes, it's an open-ended commitment.
Hang on for a second.
Let's see how they respond and they pay this back.
Let's go and play this clip with Charlie Kirk's response and then I'll bring Ben in for observations.
charlie kirk
Trans monsters threatening to murder American citizens.
We'll be right back.
unidentified
Simply allowing the light of the Ukrainian nation's honesty to shine brightly.
Next week, the teeth of the Russian devils will gnash ever harder and their rabid mouths will foam an uncontrollable frenzy as the world will see a favorite Kremlin propagandist What?
for their crimes. And this puppet of Putin is only the first. Russia's war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down and justice will be served as we in Ukraine are led on this mission by faith in God, liberty, and complete liberation.
charlie kirk
What? So you have the gangster Zelensky who deploys this mutant on social media to say that your favorite Putin puppet is going to be hunted down?
And by the way, we're going to come to Washington DC and go give us more money.
Where's the American State Department that comes out and says, yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
A foreign government is not going to go hunt down American citizens.
And by the way, none of us, Tucker, Bannon, or myself, are Putin puppets.
We get called that, though, by the media, because we dare ask the question, why are we funding the war in Ukraine?
You're a Putin puppet.
We're gonna kill you.
Oh, really?
I'm glad we're funding this.
So we give these... ...monsters... ...200 billion dollars... ...so they could do broadcasts... ...where they stare into the camera and say... ...we're going to hunt you down... ...and... ...you're... ...by the way... ...this is some sort of imminent threat?
Who, what is she, what is this person talking about?
What is this person leading to?
unidentified
That...
charlie kirk
This Putin is only the first?
The Russian war criminal propagandists will all be hunted down?
So if you speak in a way that they don't like, are Ukrainian mercenaries going to come to America and just start popping off people?
That's what this person is saying!
This video was made by an American-born person, in English, directed towards the West, not the Kremlin, saying that if you engage in wrong-speak, we're going to murder you.
All funded with Pentagon dollars, so U.S.
taxpayers.
So I decided to pay my taxes.
All of us do.
So I just wrote a check to the Treasury, so I could send it to the United States Treasury, so they could send the money to Zelensky, so they could have these People in the Ukrainian government come say that we are going to then come and potentially kill you if you say things we don't like.
That's what we are funding.
The Ukrainian government is not this some sort of good versus evil thing.
What if I told you they were gangsters on both sides?
To paraphrase Trump, there are gangsters on both sides.
steve bannon
Relieffactor.com Ben, who is that mutant, as Charlie refers to him, the freak with the bad wig, in our grill about who knows what on the Eve of Zelensky's performance here in the United States?
ben harnwell
it.
It's a man who goes by the name Sarah Ashton Cirillo.
Yeah, I mean, it is a bad wig.
I mean, just looking even at, I don't know how, I don't know how that person ended up as an official Ukrainian government spokesman, but he's clearly, clearly mentally unstable.
I mean, I'm not saying that all trans are mentally unstable, but just looking at this specific gentleman here as he's talking, I mean, just his delivery, you can tell that there's something unhinged going on.
I don't know.
I don't have much to say in terms of analysis on someone who is psychologically We're going to go to break, I want you to hang on.
steve bannon
Why would Zelensky, on the eve of coming, and he understands the firestorm, quite frankly, McCarthy, as of now, has not scheduled any public events with him.
A hundred senators are going to show up to his reception, including Tom Cotton and these guys who are just going to sing his high hosannas.
The House, because they understand the primary is going to come up to all these guys, they're all going to be turfed out.
If you're in a photo op with Zelensky.
Because quite frankly now people are not Zelensky fans.
They've seen the corruption.
They've seen the lies.
They've seen it all.
And they see what's happening in Monte Carlo and Monaco and all the places as you've been pointing out to us, they're stealing the money, Egypt and putting it to Dar es Salaam, all these places.
Okay, short break.
Ben Harnwell from Rome.
We're going to finish up.
We got more to say about the Zelensky situation.
Plus, I got Frank Bill up and we're going to talk about the end of the patriarchy.
How about that?
The end of the patriarchy, not just in the United States, but throughout the world.
Short commercial break.
Back in the room in a moment.
unidentified
War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
So there's so much to go through.
I want to make sure everybody understands that all afternoon, Uh, one of the big firestorms in the CR, which is essentially DOA, they're trying to resuscitate somehow the votes on Thursday.
I think this is going to be off the table well before then.
They are a band.
One of the things they're, I mean, literally Donald's in general pair, everybody's lighting up.
They're calling me to make sure I understand.
And we please tell the audience.
That there's not one penny going to Ukraine.
I mean, this is what they're saying.
Please, people have to understand.
They get that if any of the Ukraine supplemental was included in this, and by the way, there's plenty of money in Ukraine and all the defense and all these other State Department, so there's a lot of money in the CR for what they're approving.
It's got Ukraine money up to your eyeballs, but the 24 billion supplemental is not in there.
Because they understand one thing, Ben Harnwell.
If it was included, there would be 200 votes against it immediately.
Boom.
That is the third rail.
The third death rail.
In Republican politics right now.
When he's not welcomed as a hero like he loved being back in December, when people have asked questions and done their fiduciary responsibility and realize this guy's a fraud, and they want to know where their money went.
We haven't even gotten an audit yet.
Where did the cash go?
As the New York Times report the other day, where's the money?
Why did you fire six defense officials this morning?
Why'd you get rid of the guy last week?
Where's the money?
How the European capital is going to take it when this Thursday is going to be a fiasco for Zelensky?
the draft now, leave the country, hide or buy themselves out, where's the money?
ben harnwell
How the European capital is going to take it when this Thursday is going to be a fiasco for Zelensky, he's going to come away with no money, sir. Well, I think some of the European capitals will be more, they are more invested politically, have sacrificed more to cleave to the US stroke NATO line here.
Rome, for example, here in Italy.
I think Georgia Maloney has gone out of her way, moving against her natural support base in order to stay.
very very close to the US position on this.
And I think she will continue to do so.
But again, I think Macron has moved from being quite, historically, as the French have been for ages, for years, has been quite NATO-skeptic, and US, therefore, sceptic, to being quite very much in the pro-Zelensky camp.
On the other hand, the rest of the capitals, and perhaps you'll also see London, will We'll wait to see.
But the rest of continental Europe is looking very much for an off-ramp here, an escape route.
And I think more or less, I mean, I know we're talking November of next year is a year away, but most of the conversations I'm having with people are basically saying, if this war can't be exited before then, at least if Donald Trump wins next year, That will provide a very secure off-ramp for the world here.
I think that's broadly where the European capitals are at this stage, Steve.
steve bannon
Well, hopefully we can show the European capitals that we're on the off-ramp now and they got to pull the checkbook out and start writing some serious checks and get ready for that.
Mike Pence should talk about their manpower.
We've already done it in World War I. We did it in World War II.
Remember, in Western Europe in World War II, we had very few allies.
Nobody likes to talk about that.
We had very few allies.
We had the British.
We had the very tiny, and I mean tiny, resistance in France.
Very brave, but quite small.
You know, we had nobody else.
You had all that you had Ireland and Sweden had all these neutral countries You had the Norwegians that have flipped that the Italians that were there with them from the beginning The parts of Eastern Europe that had already signed on to them Poland that had surrendered the low countries that had surrendered France that surrendered in six weeks We had no Nobody likes to talk about it.
We had the Russian people bearing the brunt of 60 million, 40 million casualties, 60 million casualties.
Pick the number.
The Russian people and the Chinese people.
In the great World War II for the Eurasian landmass, the Chinese people took the brunt of Imperial Japan and the Russian people took the brunt of the Wehrmacht.
Okay?
Other than that, all these guys running around Western Europe, they were either the enemies Or they were collaborators.
And there was some resistance.
There was definitely De Gaulle and some resistance, but that's a handful.
And to be brutally frank, if you talk about the combat history of the Second World War, it was all marginalia.
That part.
The big efforts were by the Russian people taking the brunt of it, observing those casualties, and the Chinese people.
The United States and the big effort we had around it was the lead to basically surround it and get there.
But all the resistance groups were the marginalia.
They were heroes, quite heroic, but it played very little.
Tremendous heroic action, but in the overall big picture of what decided the war was marginalia.
The efforts were the Americans, the American, obviously, the arsenal of democracy, plus the manpower of the Russians and the Chinese who bore the brunt of it.
They never liked to tell the true story of World War II.
And to be blunt about it, we abandoned, we oversupplied Stalin.
And then Churchill and Roosevelt oversupplied Stalin.
And then we and then we walked away from the people in Eastern Europe and the Russian people, left them to their Bolshevik Masters.
And the Chinese even worse.
We turned the country over to Mao Zedong in 1949 with no military logic to it whatsoever.
Whatsoever.
Turned the country over to Mao Zedong and the Chinese Communists.
Because of the infestation of Communists in FDR's administration.
What was left over at Harry Truman and the State Department.
All of it.
The administrative state at that time.
The deep state.
as was proven over time and proven by Senator McCarthy in space and then abandoned them again in Tiananmen Square in the Berlin Wall fell. Your government. Ben Harnwell, how do people get to you?
ben harnwell
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Ben, thank you.
You'll be keeping the hairy eyeball on Zelensky's trip this week.
Quite important.
The end of the patriarchy, one of the overall overarching issues of the time, along with transhumanism, Frank Bill One of the most perceptive of writers about the situation of the working class in this country.
Frank, I want to start with you there.
You've got an amazing piece on toxic masculinity that you did, but I want to do it in the framework of the New York Times, the end of the patriarchy.
Brother, where are we?
unidentified
I think it's a bunch of, uh, it's just family friendly.
So I'll say it's a lot of BS.
You know, you have to look at where I come from and the, and the rural people, you know, my mom, my mother read Buttered Homes and Gardens.
She didn't read Ms.
Um, these people, my people are too busy working and paying bills.
You know, it was two people in a household working together.
There was none of this feminism and you didn't define people by labels.
You know, I've never understood this and it's really gotten bad, but.
You know, my dad worked three jobs, my mom worked in a factory, my dad lost his factory job, and they worked together, you know.
Yeah, my dad was head of household, of course.
You know, he set standards for me, but so did my mom and my grandmother.
Everybody always worked together.
It's no different than me now, you know, when I work.
And my wife, my wife picks up the slack where I lack in things, you know, but we work together.
steve bannon
But is it but is it but don't the elites don't the elites and the reason you're so unique today, there was more of you back in the 20s, but there are very few working class people that actually write and write the level you do that that draws your audience.
Isn't this article in the New York Times about this book review?
The elites are setting this and putting it in institutions.
It's the end of the patriarchy.
They see the patriarchy as from time immemorial passed down in Western civilization as oppressive.
As basically it's been an oppressor to the family.
And in that, that's how you get your article about the toxic masculinity.
Toxic masculinity is just one Sure.
front on this war that they're fighting overall, they want to destroy the patriarchy, which has been really one of the foundational elements of the Judeo-Christian West.
And this is not the man rules the household, right?
But the patriarchy, you know, we, we, we, so, so isn't it the elites and trying to change our institutions and putting this poison in our institutions that will achieve their objectives unless they're thwarted?
unidentified
Sure.
I mean, I don't know how long ago it started, but basically my rant is always, why are you you paying schools to teach your kids to hate you and where you come from.
Like you said, you're getting rid of your values.
I think the rural class doesn't buy into it.
I don't buy into it, I never have.
Yeah, we've done things in our past that are bad, of course we have, but every generation has and every continent has.
I've gotten so much Some backlash about writing this, you know.
People took things out of context and even said things that are even in the article and I was just kind of scratching my head because they missed the point, you know.
steve bannon
Your article talks about being fit and men doing what they do and even that, some of the comments or people coming up to you because saying you're just pushing forward the toxic masculinity that's out there.
Right.
unidentified
But they also miss an overall point that I wasn't just talking about exercise.
You're talking about the people like infrastructure that's built in this country.
Their exercise was movement.
They were lifting heavy things to build roads, to build bridges, to build the buildings, you know, to farm and labor.
You know, one person even said, well, these people didn't lift weights.
I didn't say they lifted weights, but they lifted heavy stuff and they took on a lot of things to do what they did to make this country what it is.
And it's great, you know, and that deals with churchgoers, It deals with every facet of our being.
Exercise is just something in the 21st century that has helped me, and it's helped others.
I see a lack of it when people want to sit behind a monitor all day, and then they have these mental health issues.
Get out and do something.
I'm not saying you've got to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, but get out and walk.
Be out in an environment.
Get away from your laptop, read books, read the Bible, whatever.
Don't be influenced by all this stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, like the New York Times article is, like I said, I'm sitting here reading scratch in my head because I can't identify with it.
You know, that's the first thing I thought it was my mother.
I'm thinking, well, my mom read Better Homes and Garden and then she was done.
You know, I mean, she was a homemaker.
She was a cook.
She did things in the yard, all over the farm.
You know, it's just it's completely different mindset.
I've never understood that.
I think there's just such a major disconnect between What somebody does, maybe in the city or in the bigger cities and in the populations around them, are so much different culture-wise.
My family wasn't going to worry about subscribing to the New York Times, not to knock them, or the Wall Street Journal, because they were too busy paying bills and taking care of their family.
They read the hometown newspaper.
steve bannon
Do you think there's a correlation now in modern society between people that work on screens or people, these digital nomads in this massive, because the left keeps talking about a mental health crisis.
I mean, we don't see it with the people we know and on our side of the football, but the left seems to have this huge thing about a mental health crisis.
And if you cut on MSNBC or CNN, I keep telling people, I say, we just consolidate all the, every other ad is from Big Pharma from some either funky disease they've got or mental health, depression or all this other stuff.
Do you think there's a correlation between the lifestyle you're saying of working out and being healthy and out in nature and exercising every day with men doing that and positive?
Yeah, because it's a dopamine hit.
Think about it.
Whenever you get online, you start reading something, you switch over to something else, next thing you know, you're in a rabbit hole.
in the digisphere all day long and have all these mental health weird, you know, anxieties and depressions?
unidentified
Yeah, because it's a dopamine hit.
Think about it.
When you get online, you start reading something, you switch over to something else.
Next thing you know, you're in a rabbit hole.
You know, you get outdoors, you have human contact with other people and you sit and read a book.
When you read a book, you've got to be focused on what you're doing.
It's the same thing wherever you lift weights, if you run, because I've read 15ks, 50k, 50 milers, you've got to be focused and it breaks you down.
But when you're done, it creates another level, you know, you're striving to constantly better for yourself, in a sense.
I think As men or even women, you have to have a mission, and that mission is just to keep getting better every day.
You're going to have bad days and good days, but you don't give up.
You just keep doing better.
You're a provider for your family and the people around you.
That's one of the things I tried to make clear in the article, thanks to Soft Rep and Guy Cradle for publishing article they loved it, you know, but is you have to step up and that you don't just step up because somebody asked you something step up when nobody's asking you, you know, my wife's just as good as I am at doing that.
She's always she's got the biggest heart in the world, you know, she's always giving back to people all the time reaching out and helping people.
I learned a lot from her.
I mean, you know, like I said, it's a two way street.
But yeah, you know, Probably, you know, another guy that I mentioned in this article, I don't really go out to say what each of these people do, but like Joe DeSena, you know, he created Spartan, you know, Spartan races because he wanted people to get off the couch.
He wanted people to get out and do something.
So he created these races that he does every couple of months and it gets you out.
And it's, it's, it's about community too, you know, it's about people pushing themselves and not giving up, you know, Jocko Wilmick, he, He preaches it all the time.
When something bad happens to you, you know what he says?
Good.
That's his motto.
Good.
It doesn't matter how tough things are.
You just keep going.
Hey, you just lost your house.
Good.
I'm going to work to get it back, or I'm going to get a better house.
Those types of things.
We've got a generation of, I hate to say it, weakness.
We do.
We can pretend and walk around and dance and say what we want all day long, but just because I don't agree with somebody and they don't agree with me... We have to sort it out.
steve bannon
That's what I like about your article.
It gets back to the basics.
Your article, as we get up in Getter and have you here, it's the top, I think, traffic driver over at one of the sites. Where do people go this one right now where they go and get her where they go on Twitter where they go to get your writings because I want to drive traffic to you and your site I want people who come more and get more access to your thinking. Well you can get all my books at bookstores and Amazon I appreciate anybody who buys my books.
unidentified
You know, it's a tough world writing books and getting to my audience, but yeah.
I'm on Gitter.
I'm on IG.
I'm on Twitter.
I'm under Frank Bill.
Frank M. Bill.
I'm on Facebook.
You can message me anytime you want.
I always answer any DMs or messages.
The Gitter crowd's tough, man.
It doesn't matter what I post on there.
Until somebody such as yourself or Grace latches on to it, it's like, oh, hey, here's this guy.
But I appreciate all the support.
steve bannon
It's a tough crowd.
Rumble's even tougher, trust me.
It's a tough group out there.
Frank, you're an amazing writer.
We want to make sure we get a platform to get your voice out there.
So thank you for joining us here on a Monday.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Hey, keep doing what you do.
You're one of the people that stands out.
You stood up when nobody asked you to.
You're doing things that nobody asked you to do, and you're getting out and you're speaking to the people.
That's what you have to do.
So I commend you for that.
steve bannon
I appreciate that.
We have a duty and obligation to do that, but appreciate it, brother.
unidentified
Yes, thank you.
steve bannon
My grandfather and dad would not have tolerated me not giving my all on this.
I really want to thank Frankie.
You talk about deep Deep forces, economic forces, but they're also cultural and societal.
That's why we spend so much time on transhumanism.
Also, this other one is about the patriarchy, about the basic structure of the Judeo-Christian West and it is under assault.
It is under assault.
That's why Frank is such a, to have his voice out there.
I want everybody to read that article that he put up on exercise and what it means to be a man today.
So it's very, very important.
Also, do we have it in Memphis?
By the way, I want to thank the crack team here for getting the Charlie Kirk piece up.
I thought that was very important for the last part.
Do we have the cover to the new Birch Gold?
Nixon's on the cover.
Everybody go check it out today.
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This is the fourth free installment on the end of the dollar empire.
We go back now to 1971.
We talk about the forces of the Vietnam War and the great society, the societal upheaval in the United States, what drove at that time these massive budget deficits and their solution Their solution was to get off of the gold standard to make sure that was not, although it started in the 1930s under FDR.
So he could spend as much money as he wanted.
Nixon killed the convertibility of the dollar into gold and shut the gold window for foreign countries to convert.
That was the beginning of a domino effect.
And we go through all of that that got us here today.
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Also ask the question, why is the Federal Reserve spending so much time on a central bank digital currency?
Something we can never allow happen in this country.
Why are they spending all their time trying to game the system and work on that?
While the central banks of the Global South, the BRICS nations that have all the resources are buying gold at record rates in 2022 and record rates in 2023.
What does that tell you about the state of the world's finances?
unidentified
Well, check it out.
steve bannon
Go ask a Birch Gold representative today, but go do it today.
Get up on your horse.
Let's get something done.
OK, we're going to leave here when the fire comes down from heaven.
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
We're going to leave you with the song.
We'll see you tomorrow morning back here at 10 a.m.
unidentified
We'll see you then.
Always glad.
Then the great rainbow promise started us all up again.
And the good book tells of fires that will fill the earth someday.
Then the sandbowl will be screaming as the earth shall pass away.
When the fire comes down from heaven, this old world will melt away.
Millions then will cry for mercy, but it will be too late to pray.
Oh, this world is at a tremble and it's rocking to and fro.
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