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Sept. 14, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 3028: Tax Cuts Of The DNC; Bidenomics Vs. MAGAnomics
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
steve bannon
Okay, our task and purpose here, it is Thursday, 14th September, the year of our Lord, 2023.
You see how quickly the days are going by because they're packed 24-7 with the action that we told you that, remember, you're the protagonist.
Don't ever forget that.
They want to tell you you're powerless.
They want you to be discouraged.
They want you to just curl up in a fetal position and say, oh, woe is me.
It's so awful.
That is not the case.
None of this, none of this would have happened if it had not been for you.
And that's why you gotta have Steely resolved.
Resolved, because this is...
Nothing.
This is, like, the top of the first inning.
And you're going to be called everything from domestic terrorist to white nationalist to Christian dominationist and Christian nationalist and every awful thing, you know.
Deplorables is nothing.
You're going to be called everything in the book.
You're the problem.
You're what's taking the country down.
They will over and over and over and over again demonize you.
Because you have the thing that they never thought you would have.
You actually have.
Power.
Is it absolute?
Far from it.
Is it enough?
Far from it.
Is it even what you need?
Far from it.
But you've got some and you've got some leverage and that's where we are today and Kevin McCarthy's losing it.
Kevin McCarthy went off the hook today.
Because, in the old days, of just Fox, of just Rupert Murdoch's TV for stupid people, everybody would be skipping around, and Karl Rove would be out there in the impeachment, everybody would be skipping around and doing a May Day dance, and it would all be fine, and people would just go along, oh yeah, let's give him the CR, and, you know, let's give him a clean CR, and so we have time for the impeachment, he'd be running around, he'd be running around like a bunch of fools.
That didn't happen.
That shocked them.
He thought that shiny toy Was going to be, well you're going to sit there over in the corner and play with your shiny toy.
You didn't.
He said, hey, it's nice.
And if it happens, we're there.
It's got to happen.
Not political for the good of the country.
It has to happen.
It has to happen.
But you didn't take the bait.
It's like, dude.
The deal you cut and we told you when you cut it was outrageous and it's going to bury this nation and it's worse now and you're not doing anything and you want us to play into it?
And you're going to sing us a sweet lullaby and pat us on the head and tell us it's all fine?
It's not fine.
And the American people know it.
Biden's going out to Maryland today because that's the biggest day trip he can take and plus nobody else, the rest of the country don't want to hear from him.
He's going to go to some safe space in Maryland and he's going to make the case of Bidenomics versus Maginomics.
Bidenomics versus Maginomics.
And how great this Federal Reserve is?
It's a disaster.
And what's got them in the thing, they can't understand why people are not embracing, why his numbers are not 70-30 positive on the economy.
Because of the lived experience, because government spending is a tax.
And it comes back to the hidden tax, not so hidden, of inflation.
How much of it has been helping you?
You're not getting the largest.
That's the arms manufacturers and the biotech companies and the big pharmaceuticals and all the big tech guys.
Everybody.
They're all at the trough.
Musk and all of them.
They're making more money than ever, and they could get the cash from other places, but that would lower their returns.
That would lower their returns.
They wouldn't be so wealthy, right?
That's the whole reason they come to you, because Uncle Sugar, Uncle Sugar's just gonna give them, and Mitt Romney's, he's, on his, you know, he's running for president.
He's not going to be the president, but he understands that he thinks he's ordained by God to stop Trump.
And the media's going to be slobbering all over the sky.
He thinks he can win Utah.
He thinks he can deny Trump Arizona, Nevada, and maybe even Idaho.
Maybe even Idaho.
That's the plan?
Actually, today, I've been saying this, and people have been saying, no, Bannon, you don't know what you're talking about.
I said, absolutely, he's going to do it.
He's going to do it.
Tied to the McKay-Koppins book.
Because McKay Coppins, he's going to talk trash about everybody.
And Mittens, you know, can't then run up and, you know, have McConnell, you know, when McConnell's, you know, conscious, give that snapping turtle to him.
It's going to run for president to deny Trump the presidency.
It's not going to be Manchin.
It's going to be, it's going to be, it's the godfather.
Tattaglia is a pimp.
It's not Tattaglia.
It's Barzini.
It's not Tattaglia.
It's Barzini.
Romney's Barzini.
Joe Manchin's just wandering around, running his mouth.
Okay.
It's most important, one of the things they're most freaked out about this audience is that you now are beginning to understand the inextricably linked nature of money and power.
Of money and power.
They've always wanted you to chase shiny toys and get off the thing.
The main thing is the main thing.
And I've got two today, I've got Brett and I've got EJ, because I didn't have enough time for them yesterday.
But, even better, and I'll start with brother Dave Brett.
The White House can't understand what the Financial Times and the Wall Street Journal and all the cheerleading from the business sections of all the papers and broadcast news and MSNBC.
It's so great.
And Bidenomics.
He's taking Bidenomics and going over to the G20, selling on a global basis.
That they can't understand why the serfs are not appreciative of what's happening.
So today, what he says that what I need to do is I need to go make the case of Bidenomics versus Maginomics.
MAGAnomics gave us the fall and Christmas season of 2019.
You remember that, folks?
Stock market up, zero inflation, interest rates low, super low interest rates, blue-collar workers, wages 11%, real wages, high school graduates versus college graduates, working-class people.
It was a golden age.
Would you not like to have that back?
Mean tweets and all.
And by the way, he took a trillion dollars off the Fed.
He never gets credit for this.
He shrank the budget of the Federal Reserve.
Janet Yellen took a trillion dollars off, of which should have continued, and that's why she could have, should have continued.
This happens as she is to be Fed chair besides Mnuchin selling Powell, who's been an unmitigated disaster.
Dave Brat, MAGAnomics versus Bidenomics, your thoughts, sir?
dave brat
Yeah, I'll get to the Meganomics versus Bidenomics in a minute.
All political commentary is just my own, as always.
But really, it's not political commentary.
It is primarily economics.
The Wall Street Journal finally got it right, and it'd be interesting to know what their economics is called these days.
But they do have a good opinion today.
The Census Bureau exposes Biden economics.
Its annual report shows how inflation has gutted real household incomes, your incomes.
In continuing your theme of the brass of the Democrats, they lead off, you almost have to admire the brass of the Biden White House.
The Census Bureau reported Tuesday Americans are poorer under Biden economics and President quickly changed the subject to blame Republicans for rising child poverty on his watch.
As usual, too many in the press corps bought his spin.
That is not true either, but let's just stay with the major thing that you just introduced.
Real personal incomes are down because of inflation, because of the Federal Reserve printing $9 trillion in money on their balance sheet, and now the government's spending $7 trillion.
steve bannon
Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Go back to that.
But it's down for the first time.
2019 was the peak.
Remember 2019, a guy named Donald J. Trump?
Every black, Hispanic, working class white in this nation, in this nation, don't listen to, don't listen to War Room, don't listen to MSNBC, the Wall Street Journal, don't listen to all these people.
Say to hell with all of you.
Think about the lived experience of your life.
And now finally we have the census data and the thing that it peaked in 2019.
Who was in the Oval Office?
A guy named Donald John Trump.
And now we're starting to begin the freefall.
Dave Brat, the floor is back to you.
dave brat
Yeah, that's right.
And real incomes fell across every decile.
That does not happen ordinarily, right?
What does that mean?
You just break America into 10 income groups, from the way rich down to the very poor.
And the poor got hit worse since 19, as you just said.
The poor took a 6-7% real income hit.
The rich took a four or five percent real income hit.
But every single group, the rich, the upper rich, the upper middle, the middle, the lower middle, and the poor all took a hit.
And I think Denver has the poverty graphs too that also indicate not only have your incomes been decimated, but here's Trump Here's Trump's statistics on those below the poverty line in the red going down, down, down.
And then under Biden economics going up, up, up at the far right in the blue with poverty, those underneath the poverty line going way up.
And the next chart shows the same thing.
Hard to argue that one.
And I hate to take any credit getting to read all of this evidence.
folks in poverty going down, down, down.
His policies, of course, spill over into the first year.
But then once the Biden economic policies kick in, poverty goes up, up, up.
Hard to argue that one.
And I hate to take any credit getting to read all of this evidence.
Peter Navarro was in the room doing the work, changing the structure of our economy to focus back on the American worker, the black, brown and blue collar workers.
And he, along with you and others in the White House, made this happen.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
But Trump, you know, the fundamental basis of.
of a industrial society is full spectrum energy dominance.
Full spectrum energy dominance.
That's the basis.
That's Trump not listening to all this crap on climate change and running around, which is just a control mechanism.
And let me give you a stat, and I want to thank the engine room of the war room for pointing this out.
Two of our best engine room engineers.
Maginomics gave us gas at $1.87 a gallon.
Today, even as we speak here in the War Room, a barrel of oil, Saudis, $90 a barrel.
The regressive tax, think about it, what Brad just laid out.
The poor, the lowest element in society economically, not spiritually, but economically, they took a 6-7% haircut.
Because, why not?
Let's just load it on the poor, right?
The wealthy, they took a cut too, but it's, their cut, when you look at it, is what, 30% less than the poor!
This is the billionaires and millionaires!
This is insanity!
The Democratic Party, they're not going to tax, the progressives Run all the corporations.
If you take the Forbes 400, 397 of them are progressive left-wingers.
Godless, secular left-wingers.
Atheists.
Right?
Even if some of them got R's next to their names.
There are two or three MAGA's in there.
Maybe.
That's why I'm for reparations and repatriation.
I'll make Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders head blow up.
Why?
Because they're jamming his crap down your throat.
We're not going to give them a tax.
Arthur Laffer and Steve Forbes and Steve Moore and Larry Kudlow, you're all good guys, nice people.
I really like you as people, as people that understand the economy.
They're up there with Trump.
They want a 14% corporate tax rate on Larry thinks guys are jamming ESG and DEI down your throat, destroying the American family, weaponizing your kids against you.
Oh, and cut and wait, this is what we should do?
Let's just give them a tax cut.
So once again, what they're going to do is the tax cut, are they going to put in a capital equipment?
Are they going to build jobs?
Are they going to build factories?
No.
What they're going to do is stock buybacks.
They're going to game their stocks because they're there for a short period of time, buy the stock back, shrink the equity base, make money, and devil catch the high most.
Fare thee well.
Those days are over.
That's out.
That's ridiculous.
It's redonkulous it's so stupid.
It ain't happening.
So, Grover Norquist, call your billionaire donors and tell them it is DOA.
In fact, I got an idea.
Just a random idea.
We're going to increase the taxes on the corporations until they self-cleanse of DEI, ESG, CRT.
Until you do that, how about a big tax increase?
And let's go to the leadership and let's go back to the 50s and get 90% marginal tax rates on the leaders.
Until we bring them to heel.
You can't play nice with these people anymore.
They're treating you like a bunch of fools.
This is all on your back.
You pay for all of this.
Oh yeah, and by the way, you get to send your sons and daughters on to foreign battlefields to fight and die for all of this.
We're going to take a short break.
Dave Bratz is going to join me on the other side.
E.J.
Antoni.
It's MAGAnomics vs. Bidenomics.
Worldview vs. Worldview.
Next in the War Room.
unidentified
It's all started, everything's begun And you are over Cause we're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there is no more Let's take down the CCP
The coalition that has been put together to support Ukraine, I don't think would have been predicted at the beginning of the Biden administration, given the damage that Trump inflicted on our alliances.
But it's a great testament to diplomacy, to the hard work of bringing people together.
I would like to see us continue not only to support Ukraine, but speed up whatever support they need.
It's been a difficult challenge to get all of the equipment and weaponry that they request, not only from the United States, but from our European allies and others.
But anything we can do to expedite that, because if you look at What Ukraine is doing now, their attacks on the Russian fleet, going into Crimea, that is exactly the message they need to send loudly and clearly to Putin.
But I also want to add that what the Biden administration has accomplished in the Pacific region is also very important.
steve bannon
You know, bringing together Japan and... Lady, lady, lady, that would be President Trump to you.
Remember, he's the guy that came from 12 points behind to make sure that you never set foot in the Oval Office as the Chief Executive of this nation, the Chief Magistrate, and the Commander-in-Chief.
Embrace that every night.
We know you do before you go to bed.
You cry them big crocodile tears.
Dave Brat, they're pushing on $7 trillion.
McCarthy's announcing he's going to call a bluff, he's going to go for a clean CR next week, and he may put some trinkets on there.
So the fight's engaged, that's fine.
Let's roll.
I'm not so sure the majority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, is going to be coming up with a lot of Democratic votes.
And if he does, fine, because then we go to motion to vacate.
Let's just get it on.
This audience is ready.
2-0-2-2-2-5-3-1-2-1.
Call them up and give them what for.
Let them hear your... We want Vox Populi.
You just call.
We're not going to tell you what to say.
You're free men and women.
You call and give them a piece of your mind.
Dave Brett.
With all the analysis you've got of how the crushing burden on the American people, this massive out-of-control government spending, it's a trillion dollar defense bill, which by the way used to be a layup.
They had to pull it yesterday.
They came to get that out of appropriations.
You know what a layup that used to be.
Your thoughts on where we are, and your thoughts particularly, they're trying to toss in a $24 billion, like money grows on trees?
They don't understand this stuff's all got to be paid back, and the interest now is going to be a couple trillion dollars?
They don't understand that?
Oh, we're just going to give Ukraine, I don't know, let's pick a number, $25 billion.
And then hold up the money for the poor folks in Maui, which we still don't have any explanation.
In fact, a House committee's called them back next week to testify and tell us exactly what's going on, because it's totally corn-fused out there.
We have no earthy idea where the kids are.
We have no earthy idea anything about that.
The power company's telling them they didn't do it.
The power's cut off for six hours.
What's going on?
Dave Brat, they're going to throw another $24 billion for Ukraine, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, just real quick, I'll try to link all these stories.
Hillary's talking about the war, etc.
What we may want to take into account, and I don't mean this in a flip way, is that if the war hawks are so bound and determined to take out communist regimes like Russia, perhaps we should not be moving in the centrally planned economic direction we are either.
Our $7 trillion budget now is over one-fourth of our economy, on the way to one-third of our economy.
And so your shout-out to our free market friends.
The free markets are great.
I'm a big believer in free markets.
We don't have them right now.
So tax cuts, without changing the structure of the economy and all these incentives and the size of the federal government, are not the medicine right now.
They could be, but we need all of our conservative voices on the same page.
Back when I did my PhD in economics 30 years ago, Solow won the Nobel Prize and I used a Mankiw framework out of Harvard.
He's the best guy in economic growth in the world.
And they excluded centrally planned economies from the growth framework because the theory doesn't work, right?
No economic theory.
So when you're talking about mega economics versus Biden economics, Mega-economics is the only economics right now that is addressing the open border invasion, doing trade with a closed communist totalitarian regime that allows no freedom, much less economic freedom, and then the $50 trillion in debt.
Mega-economics has been tackling that for the last three years.
I haven't seen the Wall Street Journal take on any of those three.
I haven't seen many presidential candidates take on.
Those are my big three every time.
I just say, from every politician, tell me what you're going to do about 50 trillion in debt.
Tell me what you're going to do about China.
Tell me what you're going to do about the border.
If you get a clear answer on that, then you're in the mega economic strip most likely, along with the majority of American people.
steve bannon
Hang on, spectacular.
Stay right there.
E.J.
Antoni, he's going up to Maryland Day to a safe space to go Bidenomics versus Maganomics.
Your assessment of that, given the numbers you've just seen in CPI over the last 24 hours, sir?
ej antoni
I think this is the latest example of Biden now campaigning from his basement, although that's not literally the case.
He is clearly, as you said, going to a safe space.
He is trying to find his last few remaining allies, people who haven't been crushed by this inflation that we've been talking about for the last two days.
steve bannon
When you look at it as an economist and look at all the stuff you looked at on inflation and about the American people, their lived experience, what would be your basic compare and contrast of the reality of Bidenomics, the centrally planned Bidenomics, versus the free market, entrepreneurial finance of Maginomics?
ej antoni
Well, Steve, I think it's very simple.
Under Trump, you had more people working.
They were earning more money, not just in terms of literal dollars, but what that money could actually buy.
Standards of living went up.
Poverty went down.
Everything essentially was moving in the right direction in terms of economically.
Now, did we have some flies in the ointment?
Absolutely.
Government spending remained way too high under President Trump.
Especially in his last year in office when he okayed a lot of those spending bills related to COVID, although he did try to veto the last one.
But that being said, we have exactly the opposite under Joe Biden.
We have falling real wages.
If you look at employment, In terms of where we were, the trend, the trend before the pandemic, and you extrapolate that out to today, you find we have millions of people missing from the labor force, so much so that once you account for that disparity, you have an unemployment rate over 6%, not at 3% and change.
So you have fewer people working, they're earning less money in terms of what that money can actually buy, poverty is up, home ownership affordability is down, credit card debt is at a record high, even while interest rates continue to rise, and the interest rates on those credit cards are also at a record high.
I struggle to find anything that indicates that people today are better off than they were three years ago.
steve bannon
You know, 60% of American people, minimum, are living paycheck to paycheck.
And most of those, the people that can least afford it, are bridging that with credit cards that APRs, I think, are now 23 to 27%.
The credit card debt's $1.1 trillion and exploding, even as the banks start to restrict credit, given the bad nature of their balance sheet.
EJ, how long can this go on?
This is the disconnect between the business press, That's cheerleaders for Biden because he's spending, he's giving, it's crony capitalism.
He's giving money to all these guys versus the lived experience of the American people, sir.
ej antoni
Right, and that's where I think a lot of people just simply aren't buying the talking points from this administration because the rhetoric is not going to trump reality.
At the end of the day, the Biden administration telling people, don't believe your lying eyes, don't believe your empty wallets, that can only last so long.
Now, in terms of how long the current economic situation is going to last, The pandemic-era excess savings are almost gone.
They should be exhausted by the end of October, given current spending rates.
In fact, if you look at the most recent personal consumption expenditure data from the Bureau of Economic Analysis, what it shows is that the entire increase in personal spending right now is coming just from a decrease in savings.
In other words, people are digging into their savings and going into debt in order to be able to buy more.
There is no growth in this economy right now.
steve bannon
EJ, where do people, you're doing a great job over with the Steve Moore guys and with, although I gotta talk to those guys about this, the tax fantasy, right?
So, where do people go over at Heritage?
Where do they get to you?
Where do they get to your always spicy Twitter feed?
ej antoni
Best place to find me is going to be right there on Twitter, at Real EJ & Tony.
steve bannon
E.J., great job.
Thank you for joining us today.
Bidenomics vs. McNair.
Dave Brat, where do folks... Thanks, brother.
Where do folks get to all your brilliant... By the way, Brat, I gotta ask you, you've got a Ph.D.
in economy.
I'm gonna start calling you Dr. Brat.
You've got a Ph.D.
in economics, but you also have a theology... you're a doctor of theology also?
dave brat
Masters in Divinity.
steve bannon
From Princeton.
dave brat
Princeton Seminary, which founded Princeton.
steve bannon
Princeton Seminary.
unidentified
Princeton.
ej antoni
The real Princeton.
dave brat
Trained in James Madison, who wrote the Constitution.
And Witherspoon, by the way, the first president of Princeton, trained in one-fifth of all the signers of the Declaration.
And that doesn't mean a course, it means trained in.
unidentified
So old school.
steve bannon
Brat, where did they get you?
By the way, you're quite unique.
You're quite unique.
Where do people get to you?
dave brat
Thank you, I'm just following the Oxford Don.
Yeah, Brat Economics, I posted yesterday, everything EJ just said is true about the end of the consumer, and JP Diamond came out yesterday and validated that as well.
And if people want to see evidence that it's not ideology I'm spouting about this centrally planned economy, Just why is it every day the markets hang on every word about a quarter point interest rate change by the Federal Reserve?
That means you're paying way too much attention to the central government and the budget numbers and not to a real economy.
steve bannon
It's just like, real quick, it's just like people hanging on everything to the Supreme Court.
The framers never set up the Supreme Court to be dominant on everything.
And they never even conceived of a central bank that would have the ability just to continue to print money.
Dave Brad, you nail it once again.
Thank you, brother.
dave brat
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay.
Central bank, digital currencies, the G20, what's happening in Ukraine, all inextricably linked.
We're going to go to England in Nigel Farage next for some clarity.
Back in a moment.
nigel farage
The G20 is over, but what you haven't heard is what was said by the unelected boss of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen.
She said we need digital public infrastructures.
What does she mean?
Well, it's rather like the digital passport that Tony Blair was talking about.
Already in the EU, they've got a trial going on in France and Germany.
They want an EU-wide digital ID backed up by a central bank digital currency.
And she now wants this to go global.
And I want the British government to say, we want no part of it.
Imagine that, a global database that could fall into the hands of bad actors and our lives be completely controlled.
I want the British government to say no.
steve bannon
This individual that's going to join us right now dedicated I think roughly 20 years of his life to deliver the sovereignty back to the British people and deliver the true meaning of citizenship back to the British people.
In those 20 years, there were a lot of those that were in the wilderness.
And when I first met him, you know, right after what, 2000, around 2011-2012, I would go and see him.
And speaking of these groups, they're smaller than Tea Party groups, but always a consistent message.
And he's here to warn us.
He is now, I believe, One of the most important statesmen in the world.
Nigel Farage joins us.
Nigel, honored to have you on here.
Two things I want to get to, because on our six o'clock show all week we've been talking about ceding American sovereignty to these international organizations that many of which are controlled out of Geneva and other places by the Chinese Communist Party.
And this G20, this digital currency, and I keep telling people, and this is why I go to birchgold.bannon right now, the end of the dollar empire.
It was the pound before us and now us, and our Federal Reserve is maniacally focused on this central bank digital currency.
And the other central banks, Nigel, and you were a Wall Street trader, you're from the City of London, you understand economics.
The central banks and the BRICS nations are buying gold at record rates in 22 and 23.
And yet you see this G20 and it's all driven centrally by, I think, Western Europe, the Brits, and the United States.
What is going on here?
What's this maniacal focus on this central bank digital currency and these digital passports, sir?
nigel farage
Steve, thank you for that very kind introduction.
If you want to absolutely control people and control their individual sovereignty, well, the best thing you can do is to control their money.
Control what money they're paid, but just as importantly, control how they spend their money.
And we've got 100 governments now that are signed up to the principle Of introducing central bank digital currencies, one of those being the United Kingdom.
And in fact, we're busy recruiting people working on rolling out the currency in an introductory phase as soon as 2030.
And, you know, before you know it, if we have these things, you'll be told, well, you can't spend money on this.
You can't spend money on that.
You want to buy an airplane ticket?
No, no, no, no, no.
Sorry.
You've used up your carbon allowance for the year.
And I've learned something in the last few months.
As somebody that's been debanked, you can effectively create non-people.
A CBDC would hand vast power to governments on a global level, and it absolutely must be resisted.
And if anyone thinks, I don't do anything wrong, I wouldn't be in trouble, well just look at what happened.
Look at what Trudeau did to those Canadian truckers a couple of years ago, because they wouldn't have the vaccine found themselves outside the law and of course their bank accounts simply frozen.
And this is all part of a bigger plan, it isn't just about currency Steve, it's about having your own digital ID.
Tony Blair really in the vanguard of this movement and it would have a lot of personal information about you, your own financial records, your credit rating and of course your vaccine status as well.
Blair's told us we must have these cards for the vaccines that are to come.
I mean, can you believe it?
They're already planning for the next pandemic.
So, yes, as you said in your very kind intro, I fall for sovereignty for the country for 20 years, but if we head down this route, then it's all gone.
steve bannon
Nigel, in that fight in the many lonely years that you were mocked and ridiculed in a lonely voice, and you finally got it done with Brexit, Is that fight as monumental as that is, is this fight going to be tougher?
nigel farage
In some ways, yes, because the concept, explaining to people the concept that the nation state has essential characteristics, such as it controls its borders, it directly elects and then can sack.
The representatives that can make its laws, you know, it may have taken me a long time, but that is a concept that is, I think, relatively easy for folk who are busy living their lives and doing their jobs and bringing up their families.
They can get a handle on this surreptitious move towards a surveillance state, a digital economy, total control of the center.
It all sounds like it's either one of the worst of the old-fashioned style James Bond films.
It's almost difficult for people to believe that governments would do things like that.
So yes, in some ways, this is more difficult.
steve bannon
I want to pivot, I want to come back to this in a second for a call to action before you've got to bounce, but I've got to ask you, Boris Johnson is absolutely on a jihad about this support of Ukraine.
Zelensky's coming to the United Nations next week, Hillary Clinton's out today, this CR fight, we have a 24 billion dollar, another payment from the U.S.
government.
Why is Boris Johnson When UK defenses are shrinking and cratering, why is Boris Johnson obsessed?
Why is he obsessed with this fight on the Russian-speaking eastern border of Ukraine?
Why is he obsessed about this?
nigel farage
Well, a cynic might say, Steve, that despite winning that huge landslide majority that he got, an 80-seat majority back in 2019, which, by the way, I rather significantly helped him to do, he's finished up with very little legacy, booted out of office, having lost a huge amount of public respect.
And I think he sees Ukraine perhaps as the legacy.
He was the Western leader who was the most enthusiastic from day one about giving Zelensky as much material support as we possibly could.
But he also seems to believe that militarily Ukraine can and will beat Russia.
So he thinks if we just pump in everything we've got, we'll beat Putin on the battlefield.
Now, the problem with that is any student of military history, whether it's Napoleon at his height or Hitler at his height, will tell you that beating Russia is very, very difficult, almost verging on the impossible.
And we're asking a few questions here.
I mean, we've actually got no artillery shells left because they've all been sent.
But I know in America, there are much bigger questions being asked.
And this isn't about saying, you know, all we think Putin's wonderful.
No, we don't think Putin's wonderful.
But why is no one talking about negotiations?
Why is no one talking about peace?
Ultimately, all wars through history end With a negotiation of some kind.
And I think that's where, if Donald Trump becomes president again next year, which I fervently hope he will, that's where Donald Trump and Boris Johnson and others will have an interesting conversation.
Boris believes the war can be won on the battlefield.
Steve, we've had four months of a Ukrainian offensive They've just about broken some of the first lines.
They're nowhere near breaking through, and it's come at a massive cost to human life.
And yet, it seems there is this sort of warmongering tendency.
And it's there in London, it's there in Washington, it's been around for a couple of decades and more, and it never seems to want to stop.
steve bannon
Nigel, and I want to people how to get to your social media and particularly watch your show, which is setting the UK on fire.
But what's your call to action for people about the digital, about all of this, about getting engaged in this?
I mean you were someone that could rally, you rallied the British people.
And it was cross party lines, it was cross political beliefs to fight and vote to get their sovereignty back.
What's your recommendation now on this global nature of the digital currency, the digital ID, the vaccine passport?
What's your call to action for the war room posse?
nigel farage
You must talk to your elected representatives.
Half of them don't know.
We should be meeting your elected representatives at every level you can, and expressing your concerns and worries.
Your worries about CBDCs, your worries about digital ID, your worries about the World Health Organization that want to put an extraordinary treaty in place next year, which again would be a massive loss of sovereignty for national governments.
We have to harass, we have to lobby elected politicians at all levels, and if they won't listen, well then we have to vote for somebody else at the next election.
This great battle now is between the big state and the freedom of the individual.
I mean, it is absolutely fundamental as that.
And our elected representatives need to know that we understand and that we care.
steve bannon
Nigel, how do people get to your show and how to get to all your social media?
nigel farage
Well, nfaraj.com is my website.
You go there, you'll find everything.
And for GB News, oh, that's easy.
There's a GB News app, and it's free to use for everybody in the USA.
steve bannon
Nigel, I know you're kind of a A amateur historian and a real believer in Winston Churchill, Churchill said, Courage is the most important of all the virtues because it is upon courage that all the other virtues rest.
And sir, I'm proud to call you a friend because you are a man of courage and show it every day.
Thank you.
nigel farage
Steve, very much indeed.
unidentified
It's very kind of you.
steve bannon
You compare Nigel Farage to Kevin McCarthy?
Nigel Farage wandered around in Midlands in these small meetings for years and years and years and years.
You know why?
Because he had an idea that was actionable.
And that idea was to have the British people take their sovereignty back from the Party of Davos, from the World Economic Forum, from the Globalist, from the City of London.
unidentified
Which is the Wall Street of Europe.
steve bannon
And he fought for it.
And they mocked him and ridiculed him and they dismissed him.
And then he won.
Kind of Gandhi's progression.
That's what we need here.
We need to start backing and promoting the men and women of courage that are not prepared to back down.
Kevin McCartney, Madeline, the great Madeline Peltz, our marketing director, is back on.
She's saying Steve Bannon's going off on everybody.
These rants against Comer and Jordan and McCarthy.
They're quite focused.
We're not going to focus on shiny toys anymore.
Joe Biden should be impeached because he sold his country out for money full stop.
That should progress.
And that is important for the nation.
And the more information comes out, they say, oh, and 34% of the American people, trust me, none of the information is really out there.
Once the information comes out through a formal process is, and this is why Ignatius has got the CIA and the deep state, they're smart folks.
They threw him under the bus.
Yes, they said, we're done.
We're going to move on to the next one.
And Politico just randomly has six stories on Newsom.
What, Newsom's on?
Or, you know, the relationship of Pelosi to Newsom?
She's up on, she's on Daily Mail as a lead story.
Unless, I think, on CNN or MSNBC.
Not backing.
Yeah, maybe Biden ought to think about that.
Maybe he is too old.
Kamala, not so much.
Don't think so much.
The Deep State's moved on Biden.
My rant's about the saving of the nation because we are driving over a cliff with the foot down on the accelerator.
And the people that have had to manage to climb, but in charge of the manage to climb to this great republic over the last 40 years are still in charge.
And they're making more money off working class people than they've ever made before.
And they're not prepared to give it up until we take it away from them.
They're not going to give it to you.
You must take it from them.
unidentified
And we're at that inflection point.
steve bannon
Madeline Peltz, please get your number two pencil out and write it all down.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
Back in a warm-in moment.
nigel farage
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
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Mike Lindell.
A little bit, at MyPillow, it must feel like din-bin-foo every day they're coming at you.
And I just want to tell the group out there, the folks at the company that make these great products, because all we get is tremendous feedback from the Warren Posse when they buy these products.
People out there have to know, it's not simply Mike Lindell coming to the show.
People have your back.
Your company, you as employees in your company, are greatly admired.
Greatly admire for the quality of the products, the quality of the craftsmanship, your dedication, the customer service, all of it is just outstanding.
And I just want, Mike, you to know that people have your back.
And for this audience, when we talk on here, when I'm able to talk about my pillow, you're seeing one one hundredth of what's going on.
And here's the reason.
Mike Lindell is not a whiner.
Mike Lindell is not going to come and go, Oh, poor me.
Mike Lindell is fighting for this nation in the way that he feels is best.
And that's what a free country is about.
He's fighting every day, but he's also fighting to keep his company up and going.
It's an employee owned company.
And he's obviously the largest shareholder of his employee-owned company, and he's being besieged at every level.
He's the second person in this nation that's targeted after Donald J. Trump, because they understand Mike Lindell is a populist.
Mike Lindell, like Trump, connects with the average American in a unique way.
And that's what they hate more than anything, because they hate you having a voice.
They hate you having people who are leaders who listen to you and respond to you.
Mike Lindell, how are we doing?
mike lindell
Well, we're doing great.
You kind of covered both things.
I just landed in Colorado.
We're fighting today.
We're going up against Janet Griswold, the Secretary of State of Colorado.
You're going to hear a lot about this in the news coming up in the next few weeks.
And then also I'm flying from here to go speak tonight on Flashpoint in Omaha, Nebraska and in Iowa.
And then I'm flying back to Minnesota because we're doing new commercials for MyPillow.
And you're right, Steve.
We get attacked every day.
I've got some here.
We've got blankets.
We've got the blankets here on the plane.
We've got couch pillows, everybody.
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And then we have the MyPillow 2.0.
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And they love making them, my employees.
And there we have the percale sheets, you guys.
Those sheets, we're closing out that line.
There's still a lot of the colors and sizes left.
unidentified
They're $25.
mike lindell
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And remember everybody, I can also help.
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The mystore.com These help entrepreneurs just like a mini Amazon.
You can also use that promo code War Room and support them over there.
My staff at MyPillow, we all run that.
We run that whole thing too at MyPillow for this great platform, USA Made Products, helping out these entrepreneurs.
And you know what, Steve?
I've gotten so many thank yous from them that we've kept this going because in this economy, they're just starving.
That's what their families rely on.
And same way with MyPillow, my employees are so grateful to all of you out there.
And you're getting the best products in history, plus supporting all these great American workers and workers all around the country with MyPillow.
steve bannon
And you said it, we are family owned and operated.
Real quick, we've got to bounce.
I just want you to know, Colorado, then Omaha, then Iowa, all in one day.
Where do people follow this?
Is it going to be on Lyndale TV?
Where can they see your speeches?
mike lindell
Yeah, go to Lyndale TV, everybody.
At 6 o'clock tonight Central Time, my show starts there and then it will lead right into those speeches.
And these are going to be epic.
These are so important, these speeches.
It's all about what?
It's about saving our country.
We have to secure our elections.
We have a great plan that we're rolling out, everybody.
You can check that out over at Frank's Speech.
Get that app, franksocial.com.
That's our election app now, the Frank Social.
Get that app, everybody.
You can see what's going on every day in the election world.
steve bannon
mypillow.com slash warren.
Mike Lindell, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here.
Go to work.
Spread the word.
Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa, and one day then back to Minnesota to work all night.
The guy is unbelievable.
Works like a Trojan.
Okay, Johnny Cash, we're going to leave.
Charlie Kirk up next.
Pasova, we're back at five.
Special broadcast tonight, Laura Logan's new special on J6, 8 p.m.
on War Room, on Getter and Grumble, and my personal.
And I will be there, and we'll give commentary afterwards.
8 p.m.
tonight, I'll talk more about it at 5 o'clock.
American original, Johnny Cash.
We are bound for the promised land.
unidentified
Next, in the War Room.
johnny cash
I am bound for the promised land.
I'm bound for the promised land.
Oh, who will come and go with me?
I am bound for the promised land.
For all those wide extended plains shines one eternal day.
There God the sun forever rains and scatters night away.
I am bound for the promised land.
I'm bound for the promised land.
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