Sept. 9, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Teen presidential centers dating back a century is calling for a recommitment to the country's bedrock principles. | ||
| In a joint statement, the coalition said Americans should respect diverse beliefs, noting that debate and disagreement are central to democracy. | ||
| It reads in part, quote, Our elected officials must lead by example and govern effectively in ways that deliver for the American people. | ||
| This, in turn, will help to restore trust in public service. | ||
| The rest of us must engage in civil dialogue, respect democratic institutions and rights, Uphold safe, secure, and accessible elections and contribute to local, state, or national improvement. | ||
| The coalition does not name any elected officials, but there appear to be. | ||
| They're a subtle rebuke of Donald Trump, who is accused of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election. | ||
| The statement was signed by every presidential organization from Herbert Hoover's to Barack Obama's. | ||
| Only the Eisenhower Foundation is missing in this. | ||
| So definitely a firm statement about the strength of democracy, John. | ||
| Yeah, John Meacham, there's been some complaining. | ||
| You've heard some people I know, and I have too, wondering where some of these presidents are, some of these former presidents coming out speaking forcefully against Trumpism, against what happened on January the 6th and the threats to democracy moving forward. | ||
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This is a step in that direction, isn't it? | |
| It is. | ||
| And, you know, most of these, the presidential libraries where the presidents are still around, you know, where the principal is still there, are different than the ones, obviously, that are legacy operations. | ||
| What's remarkable about this is you have a, I wouldn't even call it bipartisan, I'd call it supra-partisan, a supra-partisan statement that says, yes, democracy is strong, I think more interesting is why they had to do it. | ||
| It's that democracy is weak. | ||
| It's resilient, but it is under siege. | ||
| And these are the scholars, the foundation executives, and the presidents themselves who understand the inherent fragility of these institutions and I think that it says a great deal. | ||
| If you do what I do for a living, you go back and you look at what was being said at a given time, looking at the front page of the newspapers to see what the other stories were. | ||
| The fact that 13 former presidential institutions had to say, hey, democracy is important, pay attention to it, tells you a great deal about where we are on this early autumn morning. | ||
| I'll see you next time. | ||
| Okay, let's bring in Dave Brat. | ||
| By the way, it is Saturday, 9 September in the Year of Our Lord 2023. | ||
| Welcome to our Saturday show. | ||
| We're going to kind of be on fire today. | ||
| I was going to try to do the 80th anniversary of 1943, the bloodiest year in mankind's history. | ||
| We're going to have to do that at a later time, hopefully next Saturday. | ||
| I'll talk a little bit about it today because there's so much Not just news, but also things that we have to get the War Room posse and backup. | ||
| Remember when they say against Trumpism, when Mika and them are there with their knitted brow, that means against you. | ||
| That's against the populist movement. | ||
| Dave Brat, help me out here. | ||
| Why is the Uniparty showing that they're a Uniparty coming out and trying to browbeat the Trump movement, sir? | ||
| Yeah, the Uniparty and their quasi-historians, Meacham and Beschloss, and these guys come up and they say, we look back at all the great theorists or whatever. | ||
| Any great theorist would never say we're defending democracy. | ||
| Since Socrates, no great moral or political theorist has mentioned democracy. | ||
| We are a constitutional republic. | ||
| And then they go on and they add words about we need to be more decent, more kind, more humane. | ||
| There's a need for compassion, tolerance, and pluralism. | ||
| None of the architects of democracy or of a constitutional republic used any of that language. | ||
| The key language they all used for a thousand years was the absolute essential element for a republic to remain, and that is the virtue of its citizens. | ||
| And so to have these folks come on board and just take pot shots using history and democracy, which is one of the things the founders all got together to protect us from, which is mob rule and mass rule, and to throw that implicitly at the populace, etc. | ||
| The populace are the one group who have retained the essence of the republic. | ||
| All these folks talk about Being compassionate, tolerant, pluralistic. | ||
| You want to know the one group they're not tolerant of? | ||
| The Judeo-Christian tradition. | ||
| If you're so tolerant, can we have a discussion of Christianity and its virtues on CNN? | ||
| I'm asking a question. | ||
| Can we discuss Christianity and its key virtues in the public square, in our public schools? | ||
| We can discuss everything else right now in the public schools, right? | ||
| Up to the absurd and the grotesque. | ||
| How do you keep it? | ||
| being allowed underneath this tolerance, but you cannot discuss the chief attribute necessary for the maintenance of our republic. | ||
| And this is, you know, John Adams, Ben Franklin, the lady famously asked him, but you have a republic? | ||
| He says, yes, if you can keep it. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| How do you keep it? | ||
| Everybody knows. | ||
| The foremost problem with a pure democracy is the running of the passions. | ||
| What controls that? | ||
| Moral discipline and the virtues. | ||
| This has been the longest standing debate and it's just stunning to see presidential historians and the likes ducking it. | ||
| It's because they don't want to have to get down to the meat and potatoes. | ||
| And, you know, surely, you know, Obama, who went to Harvard and Bush knows better than to use this this modernist lingo in place of the of the basics. | ||
| And, you know, President Pence came out and was doing some similar stuff. | ||
| And, of course, The New York Times and the AP and CNN covered all that because it's a pot shot at the one group of populists. | ||
| The populist thing wasn't even in vogue when I ran. | ||
| But I've had no issue. | ||
| And I was in the Republican conference with the conservatives, supposedly Republicans, who ran us into this ditch with 50 trillion in debt. | ||
| Our major trading partner is a totalitarian communist surveillance state. | ||
| We have a wide open border such that the mayor of New York City says that his city, one of the grandest cities in history, New York City, is under siege and is being destroyed. | ||
| The conservatives allowed that to happen. | ||
| So the populists do share, and Pence quoted, you know, Burke and Russell Kirk, who I love, but they said the exact thing I've been saying. | ||
| The essence of the Republic is virtue, and that virtue, of course, in their minds, all the great conservatives, comes straight out of the Judeo-Christian tradition and animates the spirit of our country. | ||
| I have not seen that spirit moving It's ossified. | ||
| It's like a rock buildup in the Republican conference. | ||
| They've run us into this ditch, and the Freedom Caucus, those are the folks who have the animating spirit that is following the lead and listening to their constituents, but then leading in principle the way a republic is supposed to be ordered. | ||
| We have an ordered freedom And I could go on on the conservative principles, but that's the basic response to that piece. | ||
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It's way off course. | |
| We talk about it in a fourth turning, it's the institutions that come into question, and there has to be a cleansing, there has to be a purging, because they ossify, you used that word at the beginning. | ||
| Why are all the presidential libraries are the repositories of the thinking of these great men. | ||
| Why would all the libraries come together, and obviously they're going after Trump and Trumpism, particularly now with the 14th Amendment fight to try to get him off ballots, funded by conservatives, about the lawfare, which is all Kemp and have in their backs. | ||
| You see the Ken Paxton impeachment down in Texas. | ||
| Why do these institutions Yeah, of course, the great men are gone, right? | ||
| Now we're being run by a bunch of, you know, Harvard, East Coast elitists, West Coast elitists, folks that pay attention to the donors who fund the libraries. | ||
| Right, so it's just like all the foundations that fund academic research. | ||
| If you want to stay in business, if you want to keep your funding base, you better say the right thing to the donors. | ||
| And that's what the conservative party has been doing. | ||
| I used to sit in that room, right, with 220 conservatives. | ||
| And anyone that's on a major committee, or even a minor committee, and that gets $10 million for their election, I got zero from the party, has to toe the line. | ||
| And of course, You know, we've discussed the major issues, but all of it is subsumed underneath the budget, right? | ||
| The $7 trillion budget. | ||
| I ran on what was called the Virginia Republican creed. | ||
| It was a conservative statement. | ||
| I had no problem with it. | ||
| The free enterprise system, equal rights and justice, fiscal responsibility, of course, is the nugget, right? | ||
| That's why the Republican Party has been ossified. | ||
| It knows it has to go along with the donors' wishes. | ||
| That's why McCarthy okayed a $7 trillion budget And so there's nothing wrong with the Virginia Republican creed other than the fact that no Republicans follow it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| There is no fiscal responsibility. | ||
| These are the virtues required, right? | ||
| When you talk about virtue, you cannot spend more than you have by $2 trillion a year for the next 10 years. | ||
| That is not a virtue. | ||
| And so the Republican leadership and most of the members, I hate to say, there's plenty of exceptions in the Freedom Caucus and beyond, but most of them are not being virtuous in their actions. | ||
| They'll all use the right lingo, They'll act like they're virtuous. | ||
| They'll act like they're full of piety and spout the Judeo-Christian tradition. | ||
| But when it comes time to representing the people honestly and in good faith and looking out for the best interests of this country, how in the world can someone with good beliefs and virtues allow our chief trading partner, who we built up to remain a totalitarian surveillance state, our IT billionaire class, right, the big seven firms in the U.S. | ||
| are worth more than all European firms combined, helped to write the code that enslaves the Chinese Uyghurs and beyond in the Chinese system. How in the world can a virtuous people allow that to happen? And so these presidential libraries didn't say much about the virtues that are required to run a republic. | ||
| They just gave the new trendy stuff, we all got to get along, we got to be humane. | ||
| Okay, please define humane. | ||
| Aristotle had a different answer than John Stuart Mill, who had a different answer than Hume, who had a different answer than Immanuel Kant, who all had different answers from the Buddhist tradition, and the Muslim tradition, and the Judeo-Christian tradition. | ||
| So to say words like we need to be humane is to say nothing, which of course is what these presidential libraries said in that statement. | ||
| It's a bunch of mishmash. | ||
| They have effectively said nothing. | ||
| And it's up to responsible voices to come forward and really show what it means. | ||
| And of course, the Judeo-Christian system set up this entire establishment that does protect the right of the individuals. | ||
| I went to Princeton Seminary. | ||
| We gave the university back to secular ownership voluntarily. | ||
| Same with Harvard, Yale, and all the rest of them. | ||
| And said, the only requirement is you got to follow like Aristotelian ethics or something like that. | ||
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Right? | |
| Aristotle was pretty good on the basic virtues. | ||
| And they failed to do that. | ||
| They went post-modern and now there's no absolute truth, no absolute ethics. | ||
| And that's where we stand right now. | ||
| And these presidential libraries should know much better. | ||
| Dave, I know you got to bounce, but I just want to take a quick break. | ||
| I just have one question to ask you when we come back about Tuesday night. | ||
| The House is coming back. | ||
| McCarthy is going to talk, is going to give the plan, right, between now and the end of the fiscal year, the next three weeks. | ||
| You've been in those rooms before, and I want you to share your knowledge. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Dave Brat, Julie Kelly, Alex DeGrasse, Caroline Wren, Mike Davis. | ||
| Hitters only here on a Saturday morning in the War Room. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| the world or through Hong Kong. We will fight till they're all gone. We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the... | ||
| War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| I know you get a bounce. | ||
| Just Tuesday, he's coming back. | ||
| He's going to address the conference. | ||
| We've heard from all the insiders that he's going to lay out his strategy on both impeachment, the appropriations process, everything. | ||
| He's going to start making the case for the CR. | ||
| You've been in those rooms before. | ||
| Tell me how he's going to pitch it, and where do you think we really stand in combating this? | ||
| Unless the grassroots just speak out with a unified voice very loudly over the next few days, they'll be a shiny object. | ||
| The complexities will be, you know, you guys got to go along with this. | ||
| If we don't do this, you can't believe, you know, what we're going to bear in the press. | ||
| The press will come after us. | ||
| And then all of these other objectives we're trying to seek, you know, with impeachment and immigration and the border, all of that will be lost. | ||
| Well, all of that is happening because we funded the federal government at $7 trillion, which has allowed us to have a national intelligence service that's run amok with Russiagate for three years. | ||
| 51 of our highest intelligence officers were in on a fraud. | ||
| The Justice Department has a two-tiered system of justice right now, and it appears, and all the political views are just my own, to be going after only one side of the ledger and not following the other side's sins whatsoever. | ||
| And so all of these have been brought about because we've allowed the size and scope of the federal government to grow out of control. | ||
| And so it doesn't matter what they say. | ||
| When we have a COVID economy at $7 trillion and every responsible person thought it would for sure go back down to $5 trillion, but the ratchet doesn't go down ever, right? | ||
| When you jack up your car, it's up there and we're keeping it at $7 trillion. | ||
| In the face of all irrationality and deficits that go on forever. | ||
| So they're gonna come up with some scare tactics, threaten everybody, let them know you better play team ball here, you're gonna lose your money, you won't get reelected, we won't give you the 10 million, your committee assignments will be in jeopardy, and so on. | ||
| One by one by one, they'll pick them off. | ||
| And, you know, some patriots will stand firm and say, I can no longer bear this because I am trying to live out the virtues that will make this republic last the test of time. | ||
| And so God bless them. | ||
| Pray for the leaders who will take that stand. | ||
| Pray for all of the leaders. | ||
| Pray for the Democrats. | ||
| Pray for our president. | ||
| Those are instructions from God that always do give us some hope that something could change. | ||
| Because God's providential hand, I think, is still behind us, even though we are gradually turning away from that wonderful hand. | ||
| Dave Bryant, how did we get you on social media, all the great charts and everything you put up on the manifestation of this spiritual war in the economic realm? | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Yep, just come visit Liberty University. | ||
| I've got some friends coming in right now. | ||
| I'm going to run off and join them in the cafeteria. | ||
| And then Brat Economics on Getter. | ||
| And then, of course, Share Rumble and these hits with everybody. | ||
| Just a great way to find Brat Economics and cover the highlights with The War Room and Oxford, Don, Steve Bannon, who covers the news like no one else can. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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You've been caught a lot of things, never in Oxford, Don, but I'll take it, brother. | |
| Thank you so much, Dave Brat. | ||
| Thank you for sticking around. | ||
| I want to make sure, because here's what's going to happen. | ||
| Brat's buried, a little bit buried the lead in what he was talking about, part of it, in that, remember he said, I got no money. | ||
| When he ran for re-election, they cut Dave Brett out and literally gave him—this is the Republican apparatus in the House—gave him zero dollars, where they're always pumping in millions of dollars into these seats of the guys they want to keep. | ||
| And Brett had to do it on his own. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He stood up to them, and particularly about fiscal responsibility, because he kept saying, this is a moral question. | ||
| We're literally not just Impacting people that are living today in this country. | ||
| But we're having this impact on future generations. | ||
| And that we owe it to them to take our stance now, and they didn't want to hear it. | ||
| Remember, the reason we're here, where we are, is the complicity of the Republican Party in going along with it. | ||
| I'm going to have Julie Kelly on in a few minutes. | ||
| And Julie Kelly has essentially turned herself into a court reporter. | ||
| to cover like nobody else January 6. | ||
| And we're going to pull the camera back a little bit because Julie is always down in the details. She's always bringing the receipts. | ||
| We're going to pull the camera back and really talk about how people have comported themselves, particularly people that are coming after this populist movement because right now they see that the establishment sees more than the Tea Party, more than anything's ever happened. | ||
| The Ross Perot, the Pat Buchanan, they see the Trump movement and the populist nationalist direction of the Trump movement as an existential threat. | ||
| Now, here's what we keep saying, and of course, you know, over this weekend, I'll be putting up together tons of articles coming out now. | ||
| Axios just had one that came out yesterday, and I've put it up about, oh, everybody's so surprised that the deficit doubled. | ||
| It's two trillion dollars, not a trillion dollars. | ||
| And as I told people, We called this from the beginning, why we could do the math. | ||
| We knew the impact that inflation was going to have, higher interest rates was going to have in the economy. | ||
| One of the reasons that the numbers so large, there's a $300 billion miss in tax revenues, both at the corporate level, the personal level, but particularly the capital gains level. | ||
| And we said your tax revenues are too aggressive. | ||
| The way you've projected is too aggressive, way too aggressive. | ||
| Now they're going to have to live with that. | ||
| In the meeting on Tuesday, what they're going to talk about is ways to fool you, ways for them to go back and lie to their constituents and say, we just need, all we need is another 30 days. | ||
| I just need 30 days. | ||
| I just need a CR. | ||
| We just need to get 30 days into this. | ||
| I just need more time to pass these appropriations. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| There's no real cuts. | ||
| It's all performative. | ||
| We had Richard Stern on here. | ||
| Richard Stern told you. | ||
| It was the total cuts they're talking about. | ||
| Real cuts. | ||
| I mean, differences in previous years. | ||
| And they've told you the historic, we have done historic cuts. | ||
| You have to support us because these are historic cuts. | ||
| It's $12 billion. | ||
| This is not sustainable. | ||
| All they talk about is the Green New Deal and the sustainability of, you know, the, you got to build a sustainable energy foundation. | ||
| You have to have a sustainable economy. | ||
| This is 10x more important than that. | ||
| Because without this, everything else collapses. | ||
| And you go back to pre-civilization. | ||
| This is where we stand now. | ||
| This is one of the most important inflection points in this time in history. | ||
| This show is built around empowering you. | ||
| This show is built around giving you access to information that allows you to use your agency in a direction that | ||
| Assist you your family your community and your country and therefore the world remember the United States has a robust economy if the United States is on the cutting edge of Productivity and the creation of value and therefore the creation of wealth and that wealth is fairly Distributed or spread we are in the sunlit uplands Yep, go back to 2019 was the world perfect. | ||
| The world was not perfect. | ||
| I President Trump was being assaulted by all sides on the... Remember, they began the Russia hoax. | ||
| That's when we started the show in, what, October, September, October of 2019, because of the impeachment. | ||
| We called it first, said, hey, Nancy Pelosi's going to impeach him. | ||
| People say, no, no, no, Steve, that's all fake news. | ||
| I go, no. | ||
| Show impeaching by... I said the time Thanksgiving. | ||
| I missed a couple of weeks. | ||
| It was by Christmas. | ||
| The show impeaching. | ||
| But the sunlit uplands was the economy. | ||
| That's what they realized they had to do something because he would have won in a landslide given where the economy was in 2019. | ||
| The CCP understood that too. | ||
| Hence, that's why you saw the bioweapon we call COVID-19 of which now she's back again and they're going through the same iterations they did before of the shutdowns and all that. | ||
| So it is vital. | ||
| That you are armed for the onslaught that's going to come on you. | ||
| The first thing that's going to come on you is that you're irresponsible, you're a domestic terrorist, you're a white nationalist, you are a dangerous people, and one of the reasons you're dangerous, one of the reasons you're dangerous is because you're anti-government, and you want the government to be burned down, you want the government to be shut down, you want to cut it off of their oxygen, which is the Federal Reserve printing money, and that's one of the principal reasons they hate you. | ||
| It's your principles and values, obviously, but how it manifests itself in this political fight where you're sitting there going, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| We're not going to play this game anymore. | ||
| You're not going to enrich the wealthy. | ||
| You're not going to enrich the defense contractors in the pharmaceutical industry. | ||
| You're not going to do it. | ||
| You're not going to do it while you're shredding the Constitution, while you've turned the DOJ and the FBI against working class people, while you have them going to abortion centers where the traditional Catholics are on their knees praying the rosary outside and rouse them up with the FBI. | ||
| We're not going to do it while you have the Justice Department totally weaponized against President Trump as the leader of this movement. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| We demand a stop, and we demand a stop now. | ||
| And you're not going to have our votes. | ||
| And by the way, for congressmen that say no, if McCarthy goes around it and goes to Hakeem Jeffries again, like he did on the death ceiling, and gets 70 or 80 votes, then it's time to get rid of you. | ||
| It's time for a motion to vacate. | ||
| If you can't do it, you can't convince the conference to do it. | ||
| If you always need, you know, dozens and dozens of Democratic votes, To keep your term, your speakership alive, then it's time that that's not alive. | ||
| Because you have failed in every aspect of it. | ||
| And one of the biggest failures, one of the biggest failures of these gutless cowards is to address the railhead of the problem. | ||
| What is the railhead of the problem in this democracy, in this constitutional republic? | ||
| The railhead of the problem gets back to the events of 3 November of 2020. | ||
| What led up to it, and what manifested itself at that time, and then how it played through all the way to January 6. | ||
| Now, the best person in the world that understands that better than anybody is Julie Kelly, and she's going to join us on the other side. | ||
| We'll be back in the War Room on a Saturday in just a moment. | ||
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It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over Cause we're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there's no more Let's take down the CCP The Republican voters face a choice In this state and in every state around the nation | |
| primaries unfold. | ||
| And I believe that choice will determine the fate of our party and the course of our nation for years to come. | ||
| So today, I ask my fellow Republicans this. | ||
| In the days to come, will we be the party of conservatism? | ||
| Or will we follow the siren song of populism, unmoored to conservative principles? | ||
| The future of this movement and this party belongs to one or the other, not both. | ||
| That's because the fundamental divide between these two factions is unbridgeable. | ||
| History teaches that societies with more freedom and less government flourish. | ||
| That's why we have a brilliant system of checks and balances, divisions of authority, co-equal branches of government enshrined in our Constitution, and sovereign state governments under our system of federalism. | ||
| Conservatives understand that in order to advance an agenda on behalf of the American people, we must work through the system. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| The political home of those who believe in limited government and individual liberty, who keep faith with our Constitution, It's the Republican Party. | ||
| I think my question is, you know, the inflection point you talk about this moment for the party, you know, you look at even our most recent polling in terms of the issues itself. | ||
| You know, your consistency on conservatism, I think, is unquestioned, whether you agree or disagree with where you are ideologically. | ||
| But in terms of who would be the best candidate to handle the economy, Trump is at 69 percent. | ||
| Immigration, 65 percent. | ||
| Ukraine, 63 percent. | ||
| Government overreach, 59 percent. | ||
| Isn't this war over and your side lost? | ||
| I want to bring in Julie Kelly. | ||
| Julie, first off, I want to just get some administrative stuff out of the way, given that at American Greatness, the other site you've put up for the last couple of years, you know, going back, I don't know, almost three years now. | ||
| And people like Revolver and others have taken some of the hard work you've done and done an amazing job of analyzing and contextualizing. | ||
| We've had many people do that. | ||
| But you've really been at the tip of the spear of being into the details of what's going on in January 6th. | ||
| Has Mike Pence ever reached out to you to talk to you about any article that you've ever written? | ||
| Or has Mike Pence or anyone on his team contacted you to be briefed on your encyclopedic knowledge of what is going on here, ma'am? | ||
| No, he has not. | ||
| And I just want to make one correction. | ||
| I did leave American Greatness a few months ago, so all my work can be found at my substack, Declassified, with Julie Kelly. | ||
| That's where I'm reporting now. | ||
| But no, Mike Pence, no presidential campaign has reached out to me to get more information about, you know, anything. | ||
| What's happening with January 6th, the corrupt, weaponized, retaliatory, vengeful, soulless, cruel Department of Justice and the FBI. | ||
| I mean, I hear these words come out of Mike Pence's mouth. | ||
| I don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| I mean, he is right. | ||
| Maybe he is right. | ||
| There is no place for conservatism and populism in the same Republican Party. | ||
| But guess what? | ||
| One person who allegedly represents conservatism is running about two, three percent in the polls. | ||
| And the other candidate who represents populism and MAGA and making America great again, trying to restore our country, is way ahead of the field. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, to hear him listen that we have to operate through these institutions Hang on. | ||
| That's what I want to ask you. | ||
| to me he doesn't know what's going on in this system. I mean the idea that we have to operate through this system is not a good idea. | ||
| Hang on, that's what I want to ask you. He sits there and makes this theoretical case and quite frankly, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, kind of sixth grade civics in that unctuous voice. Is he living in the same era that we're living in, Julie? | ||
| Tell me about that, because you're up close on it every day like no one in this country is. | ||
| Tell me, is he dealing with what's happening in this country right now? | ||
| He's not at all. | ||
| So the question is, and we talked about this the other day, what role is he playing? | ||
| You know, why is he trying to convince Americans That this system, this government system, regardless of what it is, Department of Justice, national security apparatus, even the military, any system related to the federal government is working. | ||
| Look at, and that extends beyond Washington. | ||
| Look at what's happening in Fulton County. | ||
| We just learned yesterday that the Fulton County Grand Jury voted to indict people like David Perdue and Kelly Loeffler and Lindsey Graham. | ||
| For what? | ||
| For talking about potential voting fraud in the state of Georgia? | ||
| I mean, every institution has been hijacked by the left and these bloodthirsty Democrats. | ||
| Where does Mike Pence think, he thinks we need to work with that system instead of smash it to bits and rebuild it to the extent that we can? | ||
| So I don't know what role he's playing, but he's hard to listen to. | ||
| And, you know, dating back to January 6th, 2021, His account of that day, as I said, runs totally contrary to what his top aide said. | ||
| He strung people along intentionally, Steve, until one o'clock that day when the joint session was scheduled to begin. | ||
| That is when he released his letter stating he would not do anything about the handling of the electoral votes that day. | ||
| He knew he was not going to do anything, but he intentionally waited till the last minute So what he actually did was fuel a lot of anger in the crowd. | ||
| I've seen defendants. | ||
| This has been used as evidence against them. | ||
| Posts and videos that they made after finding out that Pence at the very last minute would not go along with the so-called Eastman plan. | ||
| But there is a part of the Republican Party that believes sort of what Mike Pence is saying. | ||
| Not the base, but certainly Republican leaders. | ||
| Which is why we see so much silence related to what's happening with the January 6th defendants. | ||
| And you have someone like Colorado Representative Ken Buck produce this just fact-free, for the most part, letter in response to his own voters' concerns about the treatment of January 6th defendants. | ||
| You know, these people are not our allies. | ||
| They are cover-up artists and they're certainly playing on the other side of the team, not on our side. | ||
| So you believe that, after seeing the Mike Pence and going through what he wrote in his book, versus, you're the one person who's gone through all the testimony. | ||
| You believe that they're actually on the other side. | ||
| It can't be any clearer. | ||
| They're either putting up smoke screens, they're trying to cover for it, they're gaslighting us, however you want to say it, but they're not our allies. | ||
| Is that your theory of the case? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| And I'll tell you, there are still a lot of open-ended questions about Mike Pence's role on January 6th. | ||
| We have not seen his communications for that day. | ||
| His whereabouts is still very sketchy and I've seen this over and over in trials that they could not specifically locate or they could not disclose where Mike Pence was. | ||
| They said he was in an underground garage somewhere on Capitol grounds. | ||
| Well, where did he go? | ||
| And I'll tell you why that's important because the basis of thousands of charges of being in restricted grounds that day for these defendants was that Mike Pence was there And because he was under secret service protection as a secret service protectee, the grounds in the building were off limits. | ||
| They also said that about Kamala Harris, by the way, until a year later, we found out DOJ was lying and that she actually was at the DNC headquarters when the pipe bomb was found. | ||
| We still have no explanation as to why Kamala Harris left the Capitol that day and went to DNC headquarters, how her secret service detail Missed this explosive device. | ||
| But furthermore, a lot of questions about Mike Pence's role before and certainly on that day. | ||
| Why was he communicating with Nancy Pelosi and not the president? | ||
| Why was he communicating with Capitol Police Chief at the time, Steve Sund? | ||
| I mean, where are his records? | ||
| Where was he? | ||
| How much did he know in advance about what might potentially happen that day? | ||
| I'll tell you a big lie that Mike Pence told. | ||
| A discrepancy between his book and the account of Marc Short and Greg Jacob, his general counsel. | ||
| Marc Short said that he drove to the Capitol from the VP residence to the Capitol late that morning. | ||
| On January 6th, Mike Pence said he went with his family in the vehicle. | ||
| Mark Short said, no, they were in a separate vehicle. | ||
| Why would Mike Pence not tell the truth about that? | ||
| Why would he say it was with the family? | ||
| And he wrote this dramatic thing, you know, saw all these protesters and they were going to be so disappointed, but he, according to his own top aid, he, they weren't even in a car with him. | ||
| So, as I said, there's something very sinister about him. | ||
| But also, something very sketchy and shady about his involvement in the events of January 6th. | ||
| Talk to me about this delay, because you've sat through all the trials. | ||
| That triggered a lot, if not everything, about, it wasn't President Trump, it was the action of Mike Pence. | ||
| Walk me through, in his book, how does he describe not telling anybody? | ||
| Well, he has a few different excuses as to why there was a delay for this memo that he finally released, as I said, around one o'clock. | ||
| One of them is that he was still gathering information. | ||
| His account of the morning of January 6th is that he went to his computer. | ||
| He typed out this memo. | ||
| There had been a couple of drafts, but he made it sound like he was making the drafts, not Marc Short and Greg Jacob and another aide, which seems to be the truth, according to their sworn testimony. | ||
| to the January 6th Select Committee. He wakes up, he says a prayer, he thinks about his oath of office, he starts rewriting or writing this memo. He wrote it on his own, he made it sound like he said his top aide's short and Jacob got to the VP residence about 10.50 that morning. | ||
| They both testified, they were there at 8.30 in the morning, that they were collaborating on this memo, that they were working on someone's laptop on it. | ||
| Mike Pence said he was working at his desktop. And then get this, he said he printed it out, went to see if he saved the file on his computer. He hadn't. | ||
| So his daughter had to rewrite it in the computer based on the printed document. | ||
| Neither Greg, Mark Short nor Greg Jacob said that at all. | ||
| So what's with this weird story that it wasn't saved when obviously he had his top aides there that morning as they were finalizing it. | ||
| Then he said the reason it was late was because they wanted out of respect for Donald Trump, get this, they wanted to wait until his speech at the Ellipse was over. | ||
| before they released the letter. | ||
| Now, as we know, Donald Trump took the stage much later than originally scheduled. | ||
| He didn't finish speaking at the Ellipse until about 1.10. | ||
| So then Mike Pence said, well, we were running up against the clock because the joint session started at 1. | ||
| So we released this letter, emailed it to all the House members and members of the Senate, then made it publicly available. | ||
| So you had all these people at the Ellipse. | ||
| Trump is still speaking right before Mike Pence, who was in charge of The Joint Session. | ||
| He releases this memo after teasing people for days. | ||
| You'll recall that he might do something. | ||
| Oh, and the biggest one, Steve. | ||
| Donald Trump called Mike Pence at about 9.30 on January 6. | ||
| His aides were there. | ||
| Mike Pence said he went to take the phone call. | ||
| It lasted about 15 or 20 minutes. | ||
| I believe Mark Short said that. | ||
| Did he tell the president at the 9.30 call, by the way, I'm working on this memo and I'm not going to go along with this plan? | ||
| There's no indication that he did because Trump called him back at about 11.30 and that's when he told him. | ||
| Again, very sketchy conduct by Mike Pence. | ||
| No, and they never, by the way, can you just hold through a quick break, take a quick break. | ||
| Never, uh, never ran the letter, which is one of the most important legal documents out there. | ||
| Never ran it past, and Jacobs never ran it past the White House Counsel. | ||
| Jacobs is the counsel to the, uh, to the Vice President. | ||
| Never ran it by the White House Counsel. | ||
| Never gave it in a draft form. | ||
| Never showed it to anybody in draft. | ||
| According to the book and according to their testimony. | ||
| Never showed it to anybody in draft form. | ||
| A document that important, he's just typing it up that morning. | ||
| Can you get any more irresponsible than that? | ||
| Mr. Responsibility, Mr. Unctuous. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Julie Kelly on the other side. | ||
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| We rejoice when there is no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
| They have all lost their minds. | ||
| War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | ||
| Julie, if you'd just take a minute or two and tell people in your own words the system that we're really up against. | ||
| Mike Pence gives you this kind of Rebecca at Sunnybrook Farm sixth grade civics lesson. | ||
| What's the reality of what we're dealing with, ma'am, as you see it? | ||
| The reality is that you have a Department of Justice that is twisting and misrepresenting and weaponizing statutes such as obstruction of an official proceeding. | ||
| To turn political protesters into convicted felons. | ||
| That is the 1512 C2 count. | ||
| You also have them twisting ancient statutes like Seditious Conspiracy, which no American has been convicted of before January 6th. | ||
| This is a charge that is usually applied to real terrorists like the Blind Sheikh. | ||
| So they're now weaponizing that statute as well. | ||
| Then you turn to how they are adding prison time, these excessive harsh sentences that, for example, we just saw in the Proud Boys case. | ||
| But we've also seen this for more than two years. | ||
| In what other jurisdiction is someone who allegedly sprays a key chain pepper spray at a police officer, denied release, held in solitary confinement basically for a year and a half before you torment a plea deal out of this man And he's then sentenced to 82 months in prison on top of that. | ||
| It just, there's no comparison between what's happening in these January 6th cases and anything else. | ||
| So you've got excessive sentences, the weaponization of statutes. | ||
| You've got judges who are putting their long term, their permanent imprimatur on the weaponization of these statutes and also the use of the terror enhancement at sentencing. | ||
| What happened last week is Judge Tim Kelly, as we talked about, made shaking a metal fence a federal act of terrorism. | ||
| That is a terrorism sentencing enhancement he applied for five members of the Proud Boys, including Henry Guitario, who was in Baltimore. | ||
| He wasn't even there on January 6th. | ||
| Nonetheless, he's now sentenced to 22 years in prison. | ||
| But aside from how the system is operating, how the system is corrupting, How this system is compromised. | ||
| The people who are running it, what has always struck me the most, Steve, is the cruelty of these line prosecutors and these judges. | ||
| I've referred to them as sadistic. | ||
| They are gratified by inflicting pain on people, Trump supporters. | ||
| Keep in mind, most of these January 6th defendants have no money. | ||
| They have no criminal record. | ||
| They don't know how the justice system works or certainly how it works in Washington, D.C. | ||
| They are completely blindsided by how they've been treated as domestic terrorists, even for low-level petty offenses like parading in the Capitol. | ||
| So how I see these line prosecutors and these judges operate, I think that is what upsets me, infuriates me, and saddens me the most, because the human beings who are behind this are really the villains here. | ||
| And look, it's not stopping. | ||
| I mean, we just saw last week the raid of the man from Oklahoma and the blowback to Liberty State for turning over that information to the FBI. | ||
| That's been happening for two, more than two and a half years. | ||
| Big tech airlines, banking institutions, Amazon, you name it. | ||
| They're working hand in glove with the FBI to produce records of their own customers to help the FBI track down J6 trespassers and ruin their lives. | ||
| We are now seeing new arrests almost every single day. | ||
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| Attorney, has promised to more than double the current caseload, which is now over 1,100 individuals. | ||
| So this is not stopping. | ||
| So this is the system that not just J6ers are facing, but all of us eventually. | ||
| And Mike Pence, to be the gutless coward he is, that really triggered most of this, not to have any interest and to come out with this unctuous, you know, time for choosing. | ||
| Here's a time for choosing. | ||
| Mike Pence is a gutless coward. | ||
| He's going into the dustbin of history at one percent in the presidential primary. | ||
| Julie Kelly, how do people get to your sub stack, ma'am? | ||
| Thanks for having me on, Steve. | ||
| It's Declassified with Julie Kelly. | ||
| So I'm posting a ton of breaking news about January 6th in DOJ, and the Trump cases as well. | ||
| And then I'm on social media, Twitter, xJulieUnderscoreKelly, to TruthSocial, at JulieUnderscoreKelly. | ||
| Julie, fight on. | ||
| Tremendous work, tremendous reporting, and look forward to having you back. | ||
| I mean, that's one of the things that really upset me when I heard Pence's speech. | ||
| His version of conservatism is one of the reasons we got here. | ||
| Because it wasn't backed up with any force, any moral force. | ||
| They didn't really believe it. | ||
| And that's why they continue to roll over time and time and time and time again. | ||
| Because they won't stand in the breach and fight. | ||
| And the people like the Julie Kellys of the world will. | ||
| And Trump will. | ||
| This is why they hate Trump and they realize that populism and Trump's, uh, the Trump movement is ascendant. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Um, we've got a huge week coming. | ||
| We're going to turn, we're going to pivot. | ||
| We got Alex DeRosa and Caroline Render going to give us some insight baseball on both the Senate, what's happening there. | ||
| Alex is going to talk about this really, this tremendous fight that's now going to go in the courts about the redistricting of the House of Representatives. | ||
| You, the Warren Posse, were at the tip of the spear in making sure this went our way Back over the last year and a half. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| They've all gone to court seeing what happened in 2022 to reverse that. | ||
| And we've got a massive fight on our hands. | ||
| So we're going to get into that next. | ||
| And so you can understand the details of it. | ||
| Understand throughout every state what's happening. | ||
| And Alex DeGrasse is going to be here to do it. | ||
| Tuesday night, like I said, McCarthy's having this meeting. | ||
| We need everybody at the ramparts. | ||
| One of the reasons we need you at the ramparts is to understand the politics of money. | ||
| If you wanted to do that, go to birchgold.com right now slash Bannon and get The End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
| Yes, The End of King Dollar brought on to you by the elites in the United States of America. | ||
| You have to understand it, particularly the third segment. | ||
| I've got into the debt trap. | ||
| I'm putting out a fourth segment. | ||
| We've been at this for a couple of years now. | ||
| It's the reason that you folks not only have a seat at the table, But you're head of the creditors committee. | ||
| They're going to try and come and run every deal in the world past you to try to get around you in the next couple weeks. | ||
| You've got to be just hunkered down and make sure you're an immovable force. | ||
| So we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back for the second hour of the war room. | ||
| What I can promise you is it's going to be intense because we're going to talk about the fight to take the House of Representatives With no voting. | ||
| Talk about anti-democratic. | ||
| That's what you're really up against, is the anti-democratic forces that are coming after the populist movement. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back in the War Room in just a moment. |
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