Aug. 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Saturday, 12 August, year of the ruler 2023. | ||
| We're now going to get, you know, we had Kerry at Iowa. | ||
| We had Matt Rosendahl with a big update of what the House Freedom Caucus is working on. | ||
| Of course, Naomi on this explosive, ongoing story on Pfizer. | ||
| We now get to the meat of what I hope have been two hours And I want to say this is a kickoff of a lot of effort we're going to put in this. | ||
| And I've got three of my favorite people, Bill McGinley, Caroline Wren, and Brian Kennedy to join us. | ||
| First, and I'll start with McGinley because I'll get the legal aspect. | ||
| Bill was the Secretary of the Cabinet in President Trump's first term and someone that people in the Trump movement have come to rely on. | ||
| With his wisdom and judgment and discernment, not simply his legal understanding and acumen. | ||
| Bill, the first thing I want to put to you, Caroline and Kennedy, is this move yesterday by Merrick Garland. | ||
| I mean, here we're talking about impeachment efforts. | ||
| I'm all over Rosendale this morning about, when are we going to start the impeachment effort? | ||
| Just walk through I know you're not a criminal lawyer, but just walk through what exactly is going on, and do you think this was more of a strategic move by Garland to shut down any other investigations that could be going on? | ||
| Well, there's a couple of things that I'm looking at. | ||
| The first one is I'd like them to release, if they haven't already, the letter from David Weiss to Merrick Garland recommending that he be appointed as a special counsel to give him even more autonomous authority to investigate Hunter Biden. | ||
| But also the letter from Garland designating him a special counsel. | ||
| And the reason I want to see that letter is I'd like to see the parameters, the boundaries of the scope of the investigation. | ||
| If you remember when Jeff Sessions appointed Mueller on the Russia probe, it talked about the potential collusion But it basically gave him authority to follow the facts wherever they lead to, to make whatever prosecutions. | ||
| Does Garland grant Weiss the same type of authority to follow the facts and apply the law that Sessions did with Mueller? | ||
| The other thing is, is this has the potential to be an iron wall that falls down on the congressional investigations, both into Hunter Biden, his business dealings, and the potential of Joe Biden's involvement. | ||
| I mean, over the last couple of weeks, the House Oversight Ways and Means Committee have been releasing some documents and evidence that they've been able to develop Both in terms of the LLCs, the banks, but also the whistleblowers from within the investigation itself saying that we were not given free reign to follow the facts. | ||
| And so will those people, the whistleblowers, are they off of the case now? | ||
| Will they be restored? | ||
| Will additional independent prosecutors who have not been involved in FBI agents, IRS agents, and others be brought into this investigation? | ||
| The one thing that a lot of folks haven't focused on is when you appoint a special counsel, at the conclusion of the investigation, the special counsel is required, as Garland said, to submit a report to the Attorney General. | ||
| explaining why he or she decided to prosecute the individuals that they did charge, but more importantly, why did they decline to charge individuals who got swept up in the investigation and they decided not to pursue. And so what that really does is that, you know, Garland should immediately make that document public once he receives it from Weiss. | ||
| But I'm not optimistic that this is going to be wrapped up before the 24 election. | ||
| And that leads really to the punchline that I think everybody needs to focus on. | ||
| This is why the 24 election is now even going to be more important. | ||
| Because we need to make sure that we have a Republican House. | ||
| We need to have a Republican Senate. | ||
| And we need to take over the White House. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| In fact, let me go to you, Brian, because you're the strategist. | ||
| Is Bill right? | ||
| Does this even put more pressure on this? | ||
| And your thoughts about why Garland would appoint this, I don't know, is it three or four years into this thing with Weiss? | ||
| You know, why now? | ||
| Why the day after Jack Smith says, Oh, I want to go to trial on J six on, let me pick a random date. | ||
| How about two January, 2024, a couple of weeks before the Iowa kicks off the primary process, Brian Kennedy. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think, thank you, Steve. | ||
| I think Bill is absolutely right. | ||
| Um, this whole thing though, to me looks like this is a kind of theater. | ||
| That you just want to have lawfare continually piled one after another with these confusing layers of legal maneuvering, most of which is designed to perpetuate in any kind of news cycle this idea that there has been wrongdoing by President Trump, that ought to be punished, that there are all these | ||
| Co-conspirators, and that the Trump administration was illegal then, should be illegal now, and that the entire apparatus of the communist left that dominates the Democratic Party and its politicians is going to be put reinforcing that view. | ||
| Jack Smith will be one angle of attack, And the special counsels will be another angle of attack, all designed to give the illusion that there's a kind of law and order and justice being carried out when in fact, for most Americans, it's going to look purely political. | ||
| But they and MSNBC and what have you are going to do their best to make this look Like something legal is happening. | ||
| And the Republicans really need to step up their game and challenge all this for what it is, which is political theater designed to demoralize MAGA. | ||
| And that's our big challenge right now. | ||
| We had Rosendale on the start of the show. | ||
| Are you saying you think that challenge will start when they get back about this whole appropriations and funding of it all? | ||
| Because you would argue that the special counsel here is really to obfuscate and hide, right? | ||
| Right when there is some momentum to go to have some sort of open and formal impeachment inquiry? | ||
| Yes, I think absolutely. | ||
| I think this is theater designed to confuse the American people. | ||
| Look, we're living in the age of mass propaganda. | ||
| The government begins the propaganda, the various agencies within the government Propagated as well. | ||
| And the news media does its part in making sure that this is presented everywhere in the most confusing possible way. | ||
| And the only thing that stops that are Republicans in Congress who have the authority in these committees to either defund them, challenge them, or hold oversight. | ||
| But to the extent that any of these special counsels will then claim, if they're allowed to go forward, that they can't speak about these matters because there's an ongoing investigation, which is the usual game played in Washington, then this just gets perpetuated. | ||
| And again, it's designed to confuse the American people. | ||
| I want to put a pin in something that Bill McGinley said to finish, and I'm going to get Brian and Caroline as we go into this thing about Ohio. | ||
| The stakes couldn't be higher now. | ||
| And Brian's exactly right. | ||
| Lawfare is at a level. | ||
| Propaganda is at a level. | ||
| This is all going to get down to political will and the politics of it. | ||
| Because this, more than ever, now we need to not just take back the presidency. | ||
| We need to take these Senate seats and take the Senate. | ||
| We need to hold the House and actually build on this majority and, at the same time, get some leadership in there that has some stones. | ||
| Caroline, some of the people looking at this with a jaundiced eye and saying that they believe that with everything and even agreeing with McGinley and Kennedy that this is actually a first step, a very cynical first step. | ||
| Of the ability of the Democrats understanding they got a losing hand with the Biden regime because now he's trailing Trump. | ||
| Trump's got, what, 100 indictments against him with 1,000 years in prison. | ||
| The American people are kind of over it, right? | ||
| They think it's political interference, that this is the first step that they can, as the special counsel develops, they can then do the pivot to the Newsom, Michelle Obama, you know, Whitmer, you name it. | ||
| Your thoughts? | ||
| Yeah, that could absolutely be what's going on here, but I do think Merrick Garland and Joe Biden seem to be very much in cahoots together, so I'd be surprised if that is the play that is happening there. | ||
| You know, I think it is all theater as well. | ||
| I have, like, no faith at all in this judicial system. | ||
| I mean, anyone that Merrick Garland would appoint, there's no reason why we would trust any of this. | ||
| They've been claiming to be investigating Hunter Biden for forever, and there's no consequences. | ||
| But I do think that, at least for the Republican side, a lot of this, the process is the punishment. | ||
| And I would like to see that a little bit on the left. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I would love to see the Republicans be doing more to investigate and bring in their fundraisers and their campaign staff and that they're trying to bankrupt, on the Republican side, anyone who works in Republican politics whatsoever. | ||
| Like, who's paying Joe Biden's legal bills? | ||
| Is anyone asking these? | ||
| Who's paying Hunter Biden's legal bills? | ||
| Are people fundraising? | ||
| Are they setting up legal defense funds? | ||
| These are all questions that we should be asking. | ||
| These are the kind of Behind the scenes warfare, at least that I follow. | ||
| I can't speak as much to the, I'm not an attorney on the legal side of these things, but I would like to see some process punishment for these folks and that the Republicans who have the ability to do this through the House need to step up a little bit more and be doing it. | ||
| And some media asking these types of questions instead of just being in the tank for the Biden family. | ||
| Okay, I want to pivot now. | ||
| McGinley raised the stakes. | ||
| Now it's in high relief. | ||
| We've got to win, and we've got to win everywhere. | ||
| I want to go back to Ohio, and I want you to summarize, and then we'll go to break and I'll bring the guys in. | ||
| I want you to summarize what exactly happened In Ohio. | ||
| We, conservatives and pro-lifers in the Ohio Assembly, selected the date, they selected the issue to not get to November and have to face this thing head on, the abortion issue. | ||
| They did this on a constitutional basis in early August when they thought that only the most serious people would vote. | ||
| Tell us what happened. | ||
| I don't think there was any smart coordination or thinking forward when they did it. | ||
| And it seems to me like a lot of this comes back to Frank LaRose, who's now thought this could be a launching point for his Senate race and instead was a total disaster. | ||
| He's the Secretary of State in Ohio. | ||
| We have a turnout problem. | ||
| We have a turnout machine problem in our party. | ||
| And so the idea—we used to be great at turning out in special elections. | ||
| That is not the case right now. | ||
| We've lost in the Wisconsin special election. | ||
| We got killed, as we've talked about. | ||
| There's also been special elections in 2019. | ||
| We've really, I mean, lost everything in 2018, 2020, 2022. | ||
| And so the idea that we were going to pull off some special election on this in the dead of summer is ridiculous. | ||
| Now, it wouldn't have been ridiculous back in past cycles, going back to 2004 to 2016, we did well. | ||
| So what happened was they put this amendment to the voters, and it was very confusing. | ||
| In fact, I was in Ohio, and they'd sent me over this briefer to talk about issue one, because Carrie was out there. | ||
| And I'm reading it, and I couldn't even really figure out what this issue was necessarily about. | ||
| There was no messaging strategy, and the left was screaming, this is about abortion, abortion, abortion. | ||
| And on the right, it was about, oh, we just want to raise the 60 percent threshold for a constitutional amendment to pass. | ||
| But that is not going to get people in the summer when they have their kids to go to Like, it was confusing messaging. | ||
| There was not any serious money behind it. | ||
| In fact, I think there was about $16 million or so spent in Ohio, and $14 million of that was spent on behalf of the Democrats trying to kill this. | ||
| And there was no cohesive money strategy, no messaging strategy. | ||
| And we got crushed. | ||
| In fact, issue — I mean, Tim Ryan, Trump, who was on their ballot, almost got this issue, almost got the same amount of votes as he did. | ||
| As a Democrat Senate candidate in Ohio, that is how big their turnout was. | ||
| And Trump had won Ohio by eight points and 16 and 20. | ||
| We lost this by 14 points. | ||
| That is a massive swing in the other direction. | ||
| And now this is something that will be on the ballot. | ||
| They're going to do it in 2024 in Ohio. | ||
| And also they're doing it in Arizona. | ||
| There's several other states. | ||
| They found this a winning You know, mechanism to really, really drive their turnout. | ||
| And no Republicans have a strategy that I've heard of. | ||
| Okay, what we're going to do is we're going to take a commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return. | ||
| We're going to go through. | ||
| I'm going to start with McGinley. | ||
| We've got Brian Kennedy. | ||
| We've got Caroline Wren. | ||
| There's more than what meets the eye here. | ||
| There's a deep structural problem that the left has grabbed onto with foreign money, international money, an apparatus they've set up kind of off balance sheet. | ||
| It's not seen to the direct politics of Joe Biden's campaign or other campaigns. | ||
| We're here to deal with the reality of politics in the 21st century and why everything may not be what you think it is at first. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Bill McKinley, Caroline Grant, Brian Kenney joins us on the radio. | ||
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It's all started. | |
| Everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone! | ||
| We rejoice when there is no more! | ||
| Let's take down the CCP! | ||
| War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | ||
| Bill McGinley, you have warned people for a number of years that the actual infrastructure apparatus of politics has changed in the 21st century. | ||
| And quite frankly, a lot of people, the media and a lot of people have not caught up with it. | ||
| And now we've seen in the Wisconsin situation of the Supreme Court, the Kansas situation with the proposition for abortion, what happened in In Ohio, the New York Times has said, hey, they have an issue. | ||
| They have a coalition that's coming together. | ||
| They have infrastructure that's coming together. | ||
| A simultaneous article came up and said the Biden apparatus and the Biden campaign looks a little sleepy, not raising a ton of money, but there's $2 billion that I think have already been committed for 2024 by these NGOs, outside groups, not-for-profit, and as Caroline Wren's been pointing out, a huge funder of that's a guy in Switzerland who's not an American citizen. | ||
| Just walk us through this warning you've given. | ||
| And now that you've raised the saying, hey, note to the War on Posse and to the MAGA movement, we have to win not just the White House. | ||
| You also have to increase the hold this house and increase the seats. | ||
| And you have to win the Senate. | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| What is the structural change that's happened in American politics? | ||
| Look, I mean, this story really begins decades ago, when the left decided that the best way for them to win elections and really dominate politics, in part, was to build out a dark money infrastructure to juice their get-out-the-vote efforts. | ||
| They've been at it really since the 2004 election when President Bush surprisingly won re-election. | ||
| Afterwards, they really decided that they need to get together, get more organized, coordinated, and really start what can only be called a merit-based approach to try and determine which organizations and leadership, including the boards of directors, the officers, the consultants, are really going to give them the best opportunity to start winning elections. | ||
| 2004 was their wake-up call. | ||
| I hope that 2023 is going to be the wake-up call for the Republicans. | ||
| So what have they done? | ||
| What they've really done is they've established a couple of groups. | ||
| Caroline is really good about the Arabella advisors, and I'll let her talk about that. | ||
| But another one was Democracy Alliance, led by then a guy by the name of Rob Stein. | ||
| And what he did is he went around with a PowerPoint presentation talking about what the right did appropriately and correctly to try and dominate not only the issue environment, the messaging environment, but also to try and turn their voters out to the poll and engage in micro-targeting and pulling Republicans out of deep blue precincts where most people wouldn't have done that. | ||
| Republicans didn't leave Any Republican voter stone unturned. | ||
| And in 2004, that was the last time the Republican Party at the presidential level was able to exceed the polling margin by about three to four points. | ||
| And it was done before big tech was there. | ||
| And it was done by something called the 72 hour program, which was friend to friend, neighbor to neighbor, family member to family member, making sure that they were turning out to vote. | ||
| Now, Steve, if you remember in the 2020 election, you and I would talk a lot about a couple of very basic concepts that we would ask the war posse to do. | ||
| And I think that a lot of the charge does lie with the war room posse. | ||
| The first one was own your vote. | ||
| Remember, we said, check your registration, make sure your registration is up to date, it's complete and it's accurate. | ||
| You know, be a force multiplier. | ||
| Make sure that not only are you voting early or on election day, but make sure that all of your friends and family are doing the same, and also to volunteer for the efforts that you want. | ||
| Now, that is only one component, because when the left has built out this infrastructure, it allows them to innovate not only the messaging, but the techniques to drive their voters to the poll. | ||
| And I think in 2023, what we're seeing in real time is the get out the dark money, get out the vote infrastructure for the left, running vote labs. They're testing their messaging. They're testing their techniques. | ||
| How do we get it in? If you remember before the Ohio vote, everybody was talking about the significant early vote that was coming in and that maybe it favored the conservative side. I was always very doubtful. And I think our fears were confirmed the other night when Ohio came in and they lost by 14 votes. | ||
| The Democrats and their soft money infrastructure is able to juice this get out the vote operation. And it's very troubling. We should be running, to borrow a bad sports analogy, the conservatives should be doing two a days right now to get ready for election season. We should really be testing everything and seeing what works. | ||
| Yeah, it whipped us. | ||
| We've got to test it in Kentucky and Louisiana this fall. | ||
| And in Ohio, we have to do it. | ||
| By the way, that was 14 points, not 14 votes, 14 percentage points. | ||
| Your point is it's a huge spread. | ||
| Kennedy, I'm going to get Caroline in here to talk about Arabella. | ||
| And when Bill just goes through everything he's talking about there with, you know, own your vote and force multiplying and all that. | ||
| The War Room Posse are fabulous, but at the end of the day, they're not professional political operatives. | ||
| These are concerned citizens, I would say amateurs. | ||
| Aren't we faced with these ruthless professional political operatives that look at this totally different than we look at it? | ||
| And that's what you're seeing now. | ||
| These blowouts, and these are blowouts. | ||
| And these things, there's a difference between a killing machine they're setting up with big time dark money, much of it foreign, with these vicious political operatives that are coming up and just organize with technology, databases, you know, every advanced system you have to make sure that they dominate these races, sir? | ||
| No, I think that's right, Steve. | ||
| If you look at, I mean, I think what Bill said is right, and I think what Carolyn said was right, too, though. | ||
| Initiatives of the kind that they were trying to pull off in Ohio are not ideal for getting people out to vote. | ||
| Changing parts of the Constitution in order to make it more difficult to change the Constitution are not easy for people. | ||
| to understand, and people's natural inclination when they see something confusing is to say no, and I'm pretty sure that's what's happened in Ohio substantially. | ||
| But your main point is the right one. | ||
| On the political left today, they have a professional class of people who operate that are well-funded, well-organized, and motivated by ideology and hatred of this country. | ||
| And they're the ones running all these operations in the various states. | ||
| Now, on the right, we are amateurs. | ||
| We do things out of love. | ||
| But during the summertime, and most of the time, we're simply operating out of love for our family and working hard and going to church and working in Little League and doing the kind of things that Americans do. | ||
| We're not focused on politics 24-7. | ||
| I mean, even the war room here, which is probably the most powerful political force in the country and really the heart of MAGA, it still has lives to lead and jobs to perform. | ||
| And so you can't expect them to do everything all the time. | ||
| And you have the Republican Party. | ||
| And what does it do? | ||
| It's mostly an opponent of MAGA right now. | ||
| And so if you're going to change that dynamic, we have to take this much more seriously than we are today. | ||
| Because it's nice to say we ought to win, you know, hold the House and win the White House. | ||
| Today, we're not organized at all to achieve that. | ||
| We have the greatest candidate, conservatives have the greatest candidate in Donald Trump. | ||
| But they're all by themselves. | ||
| in the form of MAGA trying to help him. | ||
| There's no organized effort to help Donald Trump become the president. | ||
| In those six swing states, we're not organized today to win. | ||
| In the same way we were crushed in Ohio the other day, we're going to get crushed in November of 2024 if we don't figure out what it will take to win the states we won last time and to win the six swing states. | ||
| And today that's not happening. | ||
| And so there needs to be a wake up call for Americans more broadly, that the political right has a lot of work to do if we're going to have free and fair elections and eventually recover constitutional government. | ||
| That today is not in the offing. | ||
| That has to change. | ||
| Caroline, I've got 30 seconds before we're going to go to break. | ||
| I thought that was the purpose of the RNC. | ||
| Am I missing it? | ||
| Caroline, give me 30 seconds and I'm going to bring you back right after the break. | ||
| I thought the RNC was in charge of this organization effort at the national level and the state party level. | ||
| I mean, they could be, but they're not doing anything. | ||
| And I think that it has to be donor-led. | ||
| In 2004, when the Democrats came together, it was donor-led. | ||
| It was, in fact, George Soros, who called a meeting and invited the top 30 progressive donors in the country, who told the consultants of the party committees, hey, you just collectively wasted hundreds of millions of our dollars, and we have nothing to show for it. | ||
| And we are done funding you until you come back to us with a plan that involves investing in people, ideas, and institutions that live beyond one election cycle. | ||
| And he said, we just had our Pearl Harbor You better fix it. | ||
| This is our Pearl Harbor moment. | ||
| The donors should step up and say, fix it or we're not funding it. | ||
| Okay, hang on for one second. | ||
| Brilliant point. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Robbie Robertson, who passed away this week at 80 years old. | ||
| The wait. | ||
| Be back in a moment. | ||
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| Caroline Wren, as Bill McGinley said, in 2004, when the donors had the wake-up call, Karl Rove, the one thing that Karl Rove did do, he put on that year, I think, ballot initiatives about abortion, stem cell research, all that, that drove evangelicals out. | ||
| And as you remember, at 5 o'clock in the afternoon, up on, what, Back Bay or Beacon Hill, whatever, John Kerry and Theresa Hines had their The campaign manager turned to Kerry and said, Mr. President-elect, congratulations. | ||
| It was only late in the night in Southern Ohio that we won that one. | ||
| When you say that was their Pearl Harbor, this is ours. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| And what are you calling on donors to do now? | ||
| What action do you want the big money to get focused on to do so that we can not just compete, but we can be victorious in November 2024, ma'am? | ||
| I think our Pearl Harbor was 2020. | ||
| And now we, we, and then 2022, like we should have been prepared and weren't. | ||
| And now we're going into 2024. | ||
| And so we are, we are far out from our Pearl Harbor and there is not a serious effort. | ||
| I think what we have to do is emulate this structure that the Democrats are doing. | ||
| And the two things that came out of that meeting in 2004 were Democracy Alliance and Arabelle Advisors. | ||
| And Democracy Alliance, the way it's structured is it's a membership organization of progressive donors. | ||
| And they have now over 600 members. | ||
| Who commit to spending $300,000 a year at the Alliance's direction. | ||
| And what happens, some people are spending, you know, $20 million a year, all the way down to the $300,000. | ||
| They pool together these funds and then the Alliance actually goes in and vets progressive groups and decides who is deserving of the funds. | ||
| They also control how the money is spent when they vet it and say, you can't go spend a bunch of money on consultants. | ||
| You can't go spend these ridiculous fees on television ads. | ||
| Or else you won't be in a sanctioned group of the alliance. | ||
| And they have their meetings and they fund up to four to six years in advance. | ||
| I was talking with Bill and sending him some of the, I've been able to get some of the paperwork from their meetings. | ||
| They had a meeting in 2015 about the 2020 election. | ||
| They fully fund their 2020 election four years in advance. | ||
| So right now they're meeting, they're funding 2028. | ||
| They're funded for 2024. | ||
| It's highly effective. | ||
| The second side of this is Arabella Advisors. | ||
| What they are is a philanthropic consulting firm. | ||
| So they went to these guys and said, hey, we are going to set up a family foundation for you. | ||
| And so you have everything from the Ford Foundation, Knight Foundation, Silicon Valley Foundation, Open Society Foundation, all these foundations pulled together and they're managed by Arabella. | ||
| And they say, put your money in here, you'll get a big tax deduction. | ||
| And then they have these incubators set up. | ||
| Three C3s and a corresponding C4. | ||
| And that way they are just pulling from these funds out of their family foundations. | ||
| And it is just a limitless amount of money that is available to them. | ||
| It's highly coordinated. | ||
| It's highly effective. | ||
| And there's no reason, I'm kind of done trying to just expose it. | ||
| We should be emulating it as Republicans. | ||
| And the biggest headache for me is I've met with so many Republican donors about this. | ||
| Republican donors don't realize that you can fund Voter registration and political activity through C3s. | ||
| Republican donors fund their college football teams, they fund their cancer research and different things, and they fund their churches through C3s. | ||
| That's what they think they can do in their philanthropic giving. | ||
| The left weaponized C3 giving a long time ago, in fact, almost, you know, close to 20 years now, and we are just not catching up. | ||
| We're throwing money at super PACs and television ads. | ||
| It's never gonna work, and our Pearl Harbor moment has come and passed many times, and there's no solution. | ||
| Caroline, what's the information that people get to you? | ||
| How do they get to you? | ||
| How do they follow you on social media? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| My social media is at Caroline Wren. | ||
| And then if they want some of the reading materials I have on this, I'm happy to share it. | ||
| And you can email me at cwren5024 at protonmail.com. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| And we want people to overwhelm Caroline, because she loves the work. | ||
| Caroline, thank you so much. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Bill McGinley, to Caroline's point though, I thought the Koch network was supposed to be set up kind of like this. | ||
| Don't you have some of these efforts that have tried to emulate this? | ||
| Have they been effective? | ||
| The RNC is also supposed to be in this business? | ||
| I mean, with the apparatus we have, why has it failed so miserably? | ||
| Because some of the groups that have been set up on the right are more about the intra-family fight in the primaries than they are about actually winning the general election. | ||
| And we see this quite a bit with different groups aligning with or announcing they're going to support different candidates and then attacking fellow conservatives. | ||
| What the left has really done is outside of the primary fights that they have at all levels of government, They've set up this infrastructure so that whenever the Democratic voters ultimately settle on a candidate, there's already the infrastructure in place to help them turn their voters out to the polls. | ||
| I mean, one of the things that we really need to concentrate on, and you know, a wise man once said, you know, when the opposition tells you what they're going to do, you should actually listen. | ||
| There was a Washington Post article that wasn't too long ago, and remember, there was a lot of criticism of the Biden campaign that they weren't raising money, but they also weren't hiring staff. | ||
| And then they put out a Washington Post article that said, basically, they intend to have a minimalist presidential campaign because they're going to export a lot of the basic functions to the DNC and the state parties. | ||
| So they're raising money for the Democratic Party structure, both the state parties and the national parties. | ||
| But also, they're going to rely upon these dark money groups to do their get-out-the-vote operation. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they can basically raise money in unlimited amounts from these donors, and it can be much more effective for them to do it, and it's going to be able to benefit candidates up and down the ballot. | ||
| I mean, really, we as—Carolyn's right—we as the conservative movement have had a Pearl Harbor, but, you know, one of the things that happened after 2004 is, you know, the left went through the stages of grief. | ||
| And this was pointed out in Matt Bide's book, The Argument. | ||
| The first stage is denial, where you sit there and you say, it's not our fault, we're right, and everyone else is wrong. | ||
| Then you gradually come to acknowledgment, OK, something here has to change. | ||
| And then there's the frantic search for the thing. | ||
| And we have to find the thing that will save us. | ||
| Well, we know what the thing is that will save us. | ||
| We know what's going to make us more competitive, and that is to actually establish a get-out-the-vote infrastructure that's going to turn out MAGA conservative, conservative independents, and Republicans to the polls so that we can actually prevail in a lot of these close contests. | ||
| And the final thing is, you know, we've got a lot of polling right now that everybody is saying, wow, it looks great. | ||
| You know, President Trump is tied with Joe Biden and other candidates are competitive. | ||
| Remember 2022, how everybody was relying on positive polling to say, wow, this is going to be a great election cycle for Republicans. | ||
| And we all know what happened then. | ||
| Don't trust the polls. | ||
| Get out the vote. | ||
| It's hard work. | ||
| It's laborious. | ||
| It's boring. | ||
| But it's really the basic blocking and tackling of politics. | ||
| And it's something that we've neglected for too long. It's not too late for us to mitigate this and actually do something about it, but we all collectively need to make the decision that this is going to be a priority. Fund it, staff it, and execute it. | ||
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Bill, how do people follow you? | |
| At McGinley, WJ on Getter, and WJ McGinley on Twitter. | ||
| Also, you're also working on a book, right? | ||
| I don't know if you can give us a title, but you're working on a book that's going to come out in the spring from the great team of Roger Kimball and those guys over at Encounter? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, basically we're doing a deep dive into this so we can educate everybody about what actually happens in politics. | ||
| You know, everybody thinks that politics is just about electing candidates. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's a much broader definition that sweeps in a lot of things from the earned media to everything else. | ||
| But the real focus is going to be on the get-out-the-boat infrastructure that the left has done. | ||
| And so we're working diligently on this book and hope to have it done soon so we can get it published early next year to really educate the war room posse. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Bill, you're beloved by the War on Posse, so Godspeed. | ||
| You're working with Roger Kimmel and a great team there. | ||
| I look forward to having you back on, sir. | ||
| Thank you for having me. | ||
| And we will put up, I tell you, we'll put up Bill's on Getter. | ||
| He's put some great stuff up. | ||
| We'll get his social media up. | ||
| Your thoughts, Brian Kennedy, where are we? | ||
| And how the hell do we get out of here? | ||
| There is no substitute for victory, Brother Kennedy, as you know. | ||
| No, I think that's right, Steve. | ||
| I think now is the time to take this even more seriously than we have been. | ||
| The other side, as I said, is highly motivated. | ||
| Our side's highly motivated, but we somehow think this is self-correcting. | ||
| And there is a substantial part of our side that thinks that even though the election was stolen in 2020, and in many places in 2022, somehow in 2024, that's not going to happen. | ||
| And I've been telling folks, we're not going to outvote the steel in 2024. | ||
| Much work needs to be done to make sure that there are free and fair elections around the country before 2024. | ||
| Yes, we need to get out the vote. | ||
| Yes, we need to do all sorts of logistical things that make, you know, guarantee for the American people or to the best of our ability that there's going to be a fair election. | ||
| There is going to be, first, a lot of people who we don't want them to stay home, but they might stay home because they think the election will be stolen. | ||
| And there will be a fair number of people who just get frustrated, and they'll come out and vote, but they'll have very little confidence. | ||
| The real crisis in America today is that we've not done anything to give American people confidence that the elections are fair. | ||
| And for the good of the republic, both the left and the right need to embrace the idea that there should be, has to be a fair election. | ||
| And until we change that dynamic and give people confidence, this country is going to be... 70% of the people, up to 70% of the people think the election is not fair, including Democrats that joined, obviously many of the people on the Republican side. | ||
| But when they've built this kind of off-balance sheet apparatus from these big donors, many of whom are foreigners, because it's dark money, we really can't tell, they got a system that's working. | ||
| So why are they ever going to come together to change it? | ||
| If the stealing that goes on works in their favor, we're never going to get them to the table. | ||
| Even if some of their voters are saying, you know, I don't know if I have confidence in it. | ||
| As long as they're running the tables, they're not going to change, are they? | ||
| Well, when I say the left, I mean, there are Americans who are still registered Democrats who still believe in the country. | ||
| And we can't exclude those folks. | ||
| I mean, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| is appealing to those folks today. | ||
| And I guess that's really what I mean. | ||
| The American left at the highest level, the Democratic Party, is itself dominated by the communist left. | ||
| And it is an organization that operates much like a Marxist organization, if not literally like a Marxist organization. | ||
| And so it believes it can lie, cheat and steal and do anything necessary to win an election. | ||
| And so fair play no longer exists for the Democratic Party, I fear, at the highest levels. | ||
| But there are still American people. | ||
| I mean, some of the war room posse, I would venture to say, are probably registered Democrats, because the message of Donald Trump is one that appeals to a broad number of people. | ||
| So I only mean ever to say by that that there are people on the political spectrum that can embrace everything that the populist MAGA movement has been offering them, and we can't exclude those people. | ||
| But until we take this as if this were a political war, we're going to lose. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| What's your social media, brother? | ||
| Brian T. Kennedy on Getter. | ||
| Thanks very much. | ||
| Brother Kennedy, you're one of the smartest and wisest men I know. | ||
| Thank you very much for joining us on a Saturday. | ||
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Brian T. Kennedy. | |
| Short break. | ||
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some more words of wisdom from your host next in the War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner. | ||
| We couldn't track down, we couldn't, I shouldn't say track down, we couldn't get Dr. Sean Rowlands up in a mouthful of blood. | ||
| We're going to get him on Monday. | ||
| Remember, he's Jace Medical. | ||
| And I wanted to say a thing about Jace Medical. | ||
| They've done an amazing job. | ||
| As we hurdle towards You heard it yesterday from Nicola at New Federal State. | ||
| We are hurtling towards a kinetic war with the Chinese Communist Party brought on by our weakness and our inability and failure to assist Lao Baijing and take down the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Jace Medical has solved one of the biggest strategic problems we have. | ||
| The Economist this week talks about the supply chains. | ||
| In one of its cover stories, the supply chains are messed up because the Chinese Communist Party still controls most of it. | ||
| In generic medicine, they control all of it. | ||
| In the active pharmaceutical ingredients, 100%. | ||
| Jace Medical gives you a solution to that. | ||
| So go to jacemedical.com, check it out today. | ||
| Immerse yourself in information on this and make the right choice for yourself. | ||
| Dr. Sean, we're going to try to get on Monday. | ||
| One of the reasons we're going to try to get him on Chris Hoare is because of the great efforts of Chris Hoare and the team at Satellite Phone Store. | ||
| This situation in Maui shows you, bang, in a snap of a finger, no matter how much long-term prepared you are, this thing can overwhelm you. | ||
| A fire, a flood, anything. | ||
| Look at Vermont, look at Maui. | ||
| Talk to us about what you've got. | ||
| Why is it more important than ever that people have satellite phones, sir? | ||
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Well, Steve, it's because they work no matter what. | |
| As we've seen in Hawaii this week and Maui, cell phone service and 9-1-1 are all down. | ||
| There is no any form of communication if you have a cell phone or even a landline. | ||
| But satellite phone service has worked all week. | ||
| It has been up 100% of the time because, Steve, it doesn't rely on ground-based infrastructure. | ||
| So a satellite phone connects directly to the satellite in the sky, which means you can always make or receive calls or send or receive texts. | ||
| And that's why it's so important. | ||
| They save lives. | ||
| We have the first responders out there in Maui. | ||
| We donated over $30,000 worth of equipment to them this week so that they could get their job done and start the search and rescue efforts. | ||
| And you know, because it's so it's so important. | ||
| But listen, your viewers can can get this communications too, because we have these phones right now and they are running. | ||
| They are they are selling fast, Steve, as you can imagine this week. | ||
| But we have the satellite phones for free with activation, the Iridium 955 sat phone free with activation. | ||
| That's a $1,500 saving. | ||
| And you get 100 minutes a month for just 99 bucks a month. | ||
| You can make calls, receive calls, send and receive texts on Maui right now, as the first responders are doing with our equipment. | ||
| But this can happen everywhere and anywhere. | ||
| And look, it is happening. | ||
| We're seeing wildfires in California and across the country. | ||
| And these fires take out cell phone service. | ||
| So if you go to sat123.com, that's sat123.com right now, you can get a free satellite phone with activation or you can call us at 941-955-1020. | ||
| That's 941-955-1020. | ||
| But as you know, Steve, these phones, you know, they don't make millions of these every year. | ||
| They just make a few hundred thousand and they do run out. | ||
| So I implore people not to wait until it's too late. | ||
| We appreciate you making this available to the War Room Posse. | ||
| So I want everybody to hit it. | ||
| Go check it out. | ||
| Go to the website. | ||
| Get the information. | ||
| Call one of the people. | ||
| Walk through everything. | ||
| Don't let what happened to the folks in Maui happen to you, because we've had a tough time even getting our crew over there to get them up and tell us what's going on, because cell phone service has been down. | ||
| Chris Hoare, thank you very much. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on next week. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Satellite phone store and they shipped over a bunch of equipment. | ||
| So people the first responders could work. | ||
| Okay, birchgold.com. | ||
| Make sure you go right now get the free slash Bannon to get the free pricey on what's coming up the end of the dollar Empire with the beginning of an alternative currency. | ||
| Is it going to take over the dollar and shut the dollar down day one? | ||
| No, this is a process cause D dollarization. | ||
| It's going to impact your life, and you will find out why in the coming days ahead as we go through this. | ||
| Make sure you talk to the experts at Birch Gold to find out why the central banks in the world are buying more gold than ever, why the central bank in the United States is printing more money than ever. | ||
| Ask them that question. | ||
| Wait for the response. | ||
| OK, we're going to leave. | ||
| By the way, President Trump live today. | ||
| Later, he's going to be at the Iowa State Fair with a contingent of congressmen from Florida. | ||
| So make sure you're checking that out on Real America's Voice. | ||
| Now we're going to leave you in the homage to the songs we had this week about America. | ||
| From Maine, the one eyed country singer Dick Curliss. | ||
| A tombstone every mile, a great trucking song. | ||
| Have a fabulous rest of your weekend. | ||
| We'll see you back here on Monday morning. | ||
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All you big and burly men who roll the trucks along, better listen, you'll be thankful when you hear my song. You have really got it made if you're hauling goods, any place on earth but those Haynesville woods. | |
| It's a stretch of road up north in Maine that's never ever ever seen a smile. If they buried all the truckers lost in them woods, there'd be a tombstone every mile. Count them off, there'd be a tombstone every mile. | ||
| When you're loaded with potatoes and you're headed down, you're loaded with potatoes. | ||
| You gotta drive the woods to get to Boston town. | ||
| When it's winter up in Maine, better check it over twice. | ||
| That Hainesville road is just a ribbon of ice. | ||
| It's a stretch of road up north in Maine that's never ever ever seen a smile. | ||
| If they buried all the truckers lost in them woods there'd be a tombstone every mile. | ||
| Count them off. There'd be a tombstone every mile. | ||
| Every mile. | ||
| We're talking to a trucker that's been hauling goods down that stretch of road in Maine they call the Haynesville Woods. | ||
| He'll tell you that dying and going down below won't be half as bad as driving on that road of ice and snow. | ||
| It's a stretch of road up north in Maine that's never ever ever seen a smile Lost in them woods, there'd be a tombstone every mile. | ||
| Count them all. |
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