Aug. 9, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| It's already a bold proposition to ask voters to willingly vote to reduce their ability to change their state's constitution in the future. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But to do it in the fashion that they did, that these organizers did, to try to sneak it in in a municipal election in August, I think was insulting, frankly, to a lot of Ohioans, and it proved to be insulting by these numbers. | ||
| Think about Donald Trump's Republican Party. | ||
| One, they try to take away A presidential election. | ||
| Two, they line up in support, and I won't name the editorial page again that does it, they line in support of a fake electors conspiracy plot. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That their own people knew was unconstitutional. | ||
| That their own people knew would be overturned by the United States Supreme Court. | ||
| But they were doing it to confuse the issue and delay a constitutional process. | ||
| And they wanted to throw out the votes. | ||
| of millions and millions of Americans in seven states. | ||
| Then we'll go to Tennessee. | ||
| Again, more anti-democracy nonsense. | ||
| They actually kick black members of the Tennessee legislature out because they dare raise their voices. | ||
| They let the white woman stay in, by the way. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| Justice Blyne? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Republicans certainly aren't blind. | ||
| If you're a black legislator in Tennessee and you speak up and speak out, they kick you out, right? | ||
| And now you go to Ohio and what do we have? | ||
| You first of all have the women of Ohio have the right to make health care decisions for themselves? | ||
| Are parents of ten-year-old girls who are raped? | ||
| Who have to flee the state so they can make healthcare decisions themselves. | ||
| First Republicans take that right away from Ohio women. | ||
| And Ohio families. | ||
| And Ohio doctors. | ||
| Then they come up with this scheme and they say, and now we're going to take away your right to amend the Constitution the way we've done it for years. | ||
| And we're going to sneak it in in August. | ||
| And you're going to now have to get 60% to try to claw back to get the right we've already taken away from women in Ohio. | ||
| And across America. | ||
| And as Katty said before, this is August. | ||
| August is such a dead month politically. | ||
| I will tell you, any campaigns, the four campaigns I ran, you basically shut down in August. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because everybody's gone. | ||
| Nobody's focused on anything. | ||
| They're finishing their vacations or they're getting their kids ready back for school. | ||
| They're getting ready for the fall. | ||
| They're getting ready for everything. | ||
| And as Katty said, Ohio voters flooded to the polls to tell these anti-democracy Republicans, no. | ||
| One person, one vote, majority rules in these referendums. | ||
| You can't change the rules midstream because you want to continue taking away the rights of women to make decisions over their own bodies. | ||
| President Biden celebrated after issue one failed, releasing a statement that reads, this measure was a blatant attempt to weaken voters' voices and further erode the freedom of women to make their own health care decisions. | ||
| Ohioans spoke loud and clear, and tonight, democracy won. | ||
| In recent years, Republicans in a handful of states have sought to make it more difficult to pass citizen-led Initiatives from expanding Medicaid to raising the minimum wage, according to the Washington Post. | ||
| I mean, they lost in really liberal states, I bet. | ||
| I bet these efforts lost in really liberal states. | ||
| Last year, such efforts to raise the voter threshold failed in South Dakota. | ||
| South Dakota. | ||
| And Arkansas. | ||
| Who won those states? | ||
| Was that Trump or Biden? | ||
| Those are really liberal states. | ||
| And attempts to schedule a similar vote in Missouri were unsuccessful this spring. | ||
| So Jonathan Lawyer, I mean, they're not even trying to hide it anymore. | ||
| Just put a pause on that, Denver. | ||
| Don't rewind that, because I want to restart that. | ||
| Because I want people to feel the pain here, right? | ||
| We're going to have a reality check this morning. | ||
| It's Wednesday. | ||
| 9 August, New Year of Our Lord 2023. | ||
| It is the, I think my math is right, 78th anniversary of the dropping of the second atomic weapon. | ||
| The second atomic weapon overall on Nagasaki that brought the end of World War II pretty rapidly thereafter. | ||
| A lot going on with China. | ||
| In fact, people would say there's a measure that Biden's gonna I think an executive order that's been at the the result of a lot of pressure from the anti CCP movement to cut off certain technologies for the road go through all of that. | ||
| But there is increasing speculation given the financial condition of China and now the possibility of deflation, the D word. | ||
| You think inflation is bad? | ||
| Deflation is not a stabilizing crisis, that's maybe the drop of prices because of overcapacity and drop in demand. | ||
| So we're going to get into all that, the situation in China, the situation geopolitically and economically. | ||
| But we must start in Ohio because This is a warning shot. | ||
| This is a warning shot for 2024. | ||
| I want to bring in, I've got Caroline Wren, I've got Father Pavone. | ||
| Also, we're going to go back up to Michigan with that exploding story up there on the voter fraud. | ||
| We're going to have Patty McMurray, Jim Hoft from Gateway Pundit. | ||
| We're also going to have DC Drano join us. | ||
| I want to start with Caroline Wren. | ||
| Caroline, I mean, you just have to, you have to call it like you call it. | ||
| It's a debacle. | ||
| So walk me through, I know you're in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania organizing people. | ||
| Walk me through, just give me, frame this for a second. | ||
| We'll get Father Prevost up here for a second, but frame what's going on and what this means. | ||
| The New York Times lead story, and by the way, I think Morning Joe all morning is going to be this. | ||
| They're going to be spiking the football all day because the New York Times lead story Shows, you know, they walk through the case that this is their driving Political movement for 2024 and they're gonna be in every state with these referendums Caroline Wren Yeah, they should be and they likely will be. | ||
| They had abortion-related initiatives won in all six states where they appeared on the ballot in 2022, including Michigan, Kentucky, Kansas. | ||
| If you remember, we got destroyed earlier this year in the Wisconsin Supreme Court race. | ||
| And so, you know, in Ohio, Trump won Ohio by 8 points in 2016 and 8 points in 2020. | ||
| And we lost this ballot initiative yesterday by 14 points. | ||
| And we're just getting crushed. | ||
| And it's a lot of the money flowing in, a lack of organization on our side, but they are planning to do this again in 2024. | ||
| We woke up yesterday to a story about how Arizona is organizing to put a ballot initiative for abortion on the ballot in 2024, and they're going to put $40 to $50 million behind it. | ||
| So that's what the Dems wake up and read. | ||
| What I wake up and read is a story in Puck News about how Larry Ellison just put in $30 million into Tim Scott's Super PAC. | ||
| Tim is still polling in the single digits. | ||
| That $30 million could fund either an initiative to stop these ballot initiatives or to put our own ballot initiative on. | ||
| But this is the problem with the Republican donor community. | ||
| We waste money in super PACs supporting vanity candidates while the Democrats are running the most aggressive ground game, ballot harvesting operation. | ||
| They're putting ballot initiatives to win races up and down the ballot, no matter who the candidate is, as long as there's a D next to their name. | ||
| And we're not, I mean, we're just setting our money on fire. | ||
| By the way, this morning, and we're going to play, I know we've pulled it, we're going to play the conversation I had last night with Richard Barris about what's happening on Fox & Friends in the morning, right? | ||
| The Doocy pushing Glenn Young in a, in the Hungarian donor that is pushing that. | ||
| Announced today, Wait for it. | ||
| The second debate that's going to take place at the Reagan Library, which is a bastion, not that President Reagan would hate this, but it's a bastion of rhinos. | ||
| It's going to take place in Simi Valley at the Reagan Library at the end of September. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| They gave it the RNC, and I'm not making this up, actually gave it to Murdoch. | ||
| I mean, it's so it's so brazen and so blatant and so in your face of what they're trying to do here, promote these vanity candidates, the Keebler elves, to try to get some. | ||
| And, you know, George Will said yesterday, oh, eventually somebody's going to get traction with the media and surpass Trump. | ||
| And so the Murdoch empire and the donors continue. | ||
| Relentlessly to do everything they can to try to stop President Trump. | ||
| I want to bring in a lot more to get to. | ||
| I just want to make sure. | ||
| Michigan, Kansas, Ohio. | ||
| And this is the Karl Rove strategy. | ||
| The one thing Karl Rove ever did that was very smart and brilliant. | ||
| I think it was in 2004. | ||
| He put these initiatives on ballots during the 2004 presidential in places like Missouri. | ||
| And at that time, a huge amount, I think a lot of it was on stem cell research. | ||
| It was a whole bunch of different things, but it was all related to the life movement. | ||
| It got out the life movement. | ||
| And that's why I remember 2004, we barely won. | ||
| The campaign manager for Kerry's campaign, when the exit polls came out at five o'clock, he turned up Kerry in Boston at that mansion that Kerry lived in with Theresa Hines. | ||
| And he shook his hand and said, congratulations, Mr. President-elect. | ||
| It was only, as you remember, Caroline, with a kind of a last minute surge in voting in Southern Ohio. | ||
| That we ended up carrying it right that was pins and needles and Karl Rove had done exactly what the Democrats are doing today And they're gonna go in Arizona. | ||
| It's gonna be this is gonna be big and this is a warning shot if we don't take this seriously We've got every ability to run the tables in 2024. | ||
| It's all there right in front of you but They are quite organized on the other side, and they've got tons of foreign money. | ||
| Before I go to Fr. | ||
| Provence, in fact, tell me about this Swiss Bayonet. | ||
| How do we have a guy that's not... It's bad enough you have a Hungarian who got American citizenship, like Merck. | ||
| They all get American citizenship for one reason. | ||
| They want to make a lot of money in America, right? | ||
| And then they want to go back to wherever they go. | ||
| The Hungarian is, who doesn't know anything about American politics, is promoting Junkin non-stop. | ||
| And of course Fox, Murdoch, since Murdoch's a foreigner too, they're going to put him on. | ||
| But there's actually someone that's not even an American citizen. | ||
| Tell me about this Swiss guy that's putting in all the dark money in back of this movement on the left. | ||
| Everything always comes back to Arabelle Advisors. | ||
| Arabella, there was $14.8 million spent on issue one in Ohio, and $12 million of that was spent opposing it. | ||
| So it just swamped in money. | ||
| And the majority of that came out of Arabella Visors. | ||
| Arabella's a parent corp that manages four different funds, three C3s and a C4, but more importantly they manage a bunch of billionaires' family foundations, including Swiss billionaire Hans Weiss. | ||
| Why I keep talking about how donors should be giving through 501C3s versus these super PACs is because donors can get the tax deduction, then they just take the money in the C3, transfer it to their partner C4, and then the C4 can literally donate it to the super PAC. | ||
| Now, we didn't really think, I think that it's wrong and should not be illegal to do that, but the reality is the Democrats are doing it. | ||
| Now, C-3s could take foreign money. | ||
| I mean, think of the Clinton Foundation. | ||
| Like, please. | ||
| And so there's this billionaire named Hans Weiss who has been spending Millions and millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars at this point, in our elections, especially since 2016. | ||
| He talks about it, he does press and interviews about how his one mission is to stop Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. | ||
| And so what he does is he'll put $10, $20 million into his foundation, then the foundation donates that money to a C4, and then the C4 does whatever, you know, political activity with it or donates it to a super PAC for Joe Biden or whoever else. | ||
| So they're just openly mocking us at this point. | ||
| In fact, I brought this to the attention of the New York Times. | ||
| The New York Times reporter, who was the lead reporter for Money on New York Times, had never heard of him or even Arabella Advisors, and this was right in 2021. | ||
| And so he ends up writing a story, and it was about Eight paragraphs down that he blithely mentions the New York Times could not confirm if Hans Weiss is a U.S. | ||
| citizen. | ||
| Like that, if there was a Republican donor that they couldn't confirm was a U.S. | ||
| citizen giving, you know, $50 million to beat Joe Biden or back Donald Trump, it would be, there'd be a hundred stories in the New York Times. | ||
| It'd be the lead of every paper, but Mika and Joe would be having a full blown meltdown every morning about it. | ||
| But like, no, the Dems can do whatever they want because the media is complicit in what they're doing and we better wake up and play the same game. | ||
| We're going to have Brian Costello on. | ||
| This is essentially the model over at Sequoia Capital. | ||
| This is the model there, right? | ||
| And there they're supplying, they're taking your pension fund money, funding Chinese, CCP, advanced technology, taking the profits, rolling it back into these not-for-profits NGOs that are basically the active arm We will fight till they're all gone! | ||
| We rejoice when there is no more! | ||
| we're talking about on the sidelines. You saw it in Ohio yesterday. Okay. | ||
| This needs focus from the war in posse. Caroline Wren's gonna stick with us. | ||
| Father Pavone up. DC Drano. Jim Hoff. Patti McMurray. We're coming in a little hot this morning in the war room. | ||
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Here's your host Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Okay, Father Prevost, as you know, you're one of my favorites, and I love the life movement. | ||
| Liz Yor and Terry Schilling, all of them. | ||
| Alexander Priet, you guys are the best. | ||
| However, we don't have a choice. | ||
| We have to win 2024, and we got the path to do it. | ||
| What we can't do is have any drag on this, right? | ||
| As we say in the Navy, you can't have a drag on this. | ||
| Uh, correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| Wasn't it the life groups in Ohio that put this, you guys put this, this special on the ballot now, so you didn't have to face the thing in, in, uh, in November on the 50 50, you know, the 51% 51 49 or 50 plus one vote that you, you guys put this on. | ||
| So how did you, how did they put, how'd the life movement put this on the ballot? | ||
| Not knowing you could deliver a victory, sir. | ||
| Well, hi, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| I'm mad as hell like like so many of the rest of us this morning. | ||
| And, you know, this was a situation where a few months ago, the legislators in Ohio said, hey, listen, we got this ballot approved in November. | ||
| The pro-abortion people got it on. | ||
| And what can we do to make it harder for them? | ||
| Ohio's constitution is one of the easiest in the nation to amend. | ||
| 50 percent plus one vote. | ||
| Most of the states, it's harder. | ||
| And so the legislators said, all right, if we can raise the threshold to 60%, obviously that's going to put a speed bump in the way. | ||
| And I don't know on the ground there in Ohio at that time what they saw in terms of polling, but I always cringe when there's one of these ballot initiatives, no matter what it is, because as you and I were talking recently, It's soundbite voting. | ||
| It's not subject to the analysis that a legislative process is subject to and the debates and the questions and the lobbying and all the rest. | ||
| It's like voters hear one thing and then they decide a certain way on one day and then that's it. | ||
| So I'm always cringing, but it was like being in a situation between bad and worse. | ||
| Maybe we can put this speed bump in the way. | ||
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Maybe not, but let's see what we can do to make it harder for them to... But here's the point. | |
| Theoretically, and I think everybody says yes, you'd rather have it at the state legislatures and go through and have a heated debate and then let the chips fall where it may. | ||
| But that's not... | ||
| Just political reality. | ||
| They've got a formula. | ||
| You saw that in Kansas, and then they took the same formula into, let's leave Michigan aside for a second, they took the same into the Supreme Court. | ||
| It's soundbite. | ||
| And here's why, because they got all this outside money, they got unlimited outside money and ground game in the colleges, and of course the college-educated women that are, it's just the reality, they're in it. | ||
| So The aspiration to do it in state legislation is just not going to happen. | ||
| Because they're going to now, the Carolines in Arizona, they're getting this on, they're going to move, they're going to put $40 million to get this on the ballot. | ||
| So this is not a time for the life movement to be disorganized, unfocused, or not like have a organized strategy. | ||
| That's the issue here, sir. | ||
| I couldn't agree with you more. | ||
| And, you know, Steve, you know, one of the things that we do is we bring the national leaders together. | ||
| We just had another meeting on this the other day. | ||
| And what we're stressing is every state battle has got to be a national battle. | ||
| We on the pro-life side have to learn how to do what the pro-abortion people do. | ||
| Bring in pro-life money from out of state. | ||
| Get the pro-life millionaires and billionaires because they're out there. | ||
| But a lot of times they're hanging on to their money because they're saying just what you just said. | ||
| You guys have to get organized. | ||
| You guys have to come together. | ||
| And we can come together on these state battles if we put aside the organizational egos and a free for all about ideas and strategies, come together and stop these initiatives. | ||
| We got the battle going on here right now in Florida, it's going on in South Dakota, Missouri. | ||
| These are some of the next targets for these things and a host of other states for 2024. | ||
| And Steve, we believe in exactly, I think President Trump is hitting the nail on the head. | ||
| When he says, when he talks about abortion, as you well know. | ||
| He says, look, it's the Democrats who are the extremists on this. | ||
| And every one of these amendments is trying to force into these state constitutions Unlimited late-term abortion. | ||
| I believe, and most of the leaders I'm meeting with believe, that if we focus on the fact that this is late-term abortion, that unlike that clip from MSNBC, we're not taking away the rights of women. | ||
| The Ohio women, the American women, they don't want late-term abortion. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| They've never expressed support for that. | ||
| And we've got to take control of this narrative. | ||
| Hang on, but I got it. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| But you've had Kansas, Michigan, and now Ohio, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Excuse me, Kansas, Wisconsin, and Ohio. | ||
| Michigan, I don't know that well. | ||
| You've had three in a row. | ||
| That case hasn't been made or is not resonant. | ||
| And these are not close. | ||
| In modern American politics, these are blowouts. | ||
| These are blowouts. | ||
| Look, I wanted to play the morning joke because I want to rub people's nose in this. | ||
| They're spiking the football. | ||
| We could play all two hours of the show from last night on MSNBC to today, and they're spiking the football because they think they've got the formula for 2024. | ||
| And, you know, it's fine for you to make that argument. | ||
| You've had three shots. | ||
| These are not left-wing places. | ||
| Kansas and Ohio? | ||
| Brother, I mean, you're not going to get more MAGA. | ||
| And I realize Kansas got its own, the way it was worded, and it's all this, you know, and it's a little different on Kansas on some issues. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| But Ohio is the bastion of MAGA. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so how do you guys, I mean, this is a warning shot. | ||
| I don't know what it takes when you say ego and organize and everything like that. | ||
| You guys have hung together for 50 years. | ||
| You finally got the Supreme, you know, finally with Trump's victory. | ||
| And in 16, life wasn't a massive, it wasn't, but it wasn't a front thing issue. | ||
| It was, it was part of our coalition. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| And absolutely essential. | ||
| And Susan B. Anthony, everybody knocked on doors or rang doorbells, all credit to them. | ||
| But that wasn't just a central beating heart issue, but you got, you got the judges and you got the victory. | ||
| And now quite frankly, it's you, you guys, I'm telling you that if it doesn't get organized and I mean, organized quickly, There's a lot of voices in the donor community and others saying, hey, you know, what are we doing here? | ||
| Because these guys are, they're a drag right now when we can't afford it. | ||
| I hate to be so blunt. | ||
| Caroline, let me come in. | ||
| Am I being overly harsh on this? | ||
| Caroline Wren? | ||
| No, even Trump's spoken openly about how he's frustrated by this. | ||
| And there's not a clear cohesive messaging strategy here. | ||
| You have Lindsey Graham, you know, going out saying we need a federal abortion ban. | ||
| Then you have the rest of these candidates out there saying this is great, we kicked it back to the states. | ||
| So we're not resonating with anyone because we're not really having any sort of cohesive ideology as to what we want moving forward. | ||
| There's no money behind a single organization. | ||
| Susan B. Anthony's great, but like they really have next to no money. | ||
| And they can't go to these fights. | ||
| And we can't just be screaming and saying this is all about, you know, abortion at nine months. | ||
| That isn't necessarily what it is. | ||
| And they're winning the messaging more on this. | ||
| But at least in Arizona, the ballot initiative they're going to put forward is 22 weeks. | ||
| Now, 22 weeks is way too late for me. | ||
| I believe that life begins at conception. | ||
| But, you know, we have to win majorities. | ||
| And elections and others don't. | ||
| And the Democrats are very good at how they message this. | ||
| And we are just messaging disasters on it. | ||
| We're not prepared to go into these ballot initiatives. | ||
| We don't have the funding to actually do them. | ||
| And it is going to cost us elections when we do it. | ||
| And so the repercussions are brutal. | ||
| I was in Ohio for two days. | ||
| I knew, I could see what was, there was no message. | ||
| It was just vote for issue one. | ||
| And the Democrats made it all about abortion. | ||
| We made it about this kind of complicated 60% threshold. | ||
| Regular people don't understand that. | ||
| And they're certainly not going to, you know, they have their kids home right now. | ||
| They're not in school. | ||
| They're not going to take them off, you know, stop a bike ride and stuff to go vote on some complicated, I think they're getting a flyer on about some 60% threshold in the legislature they don't care about. | ||
| They're totally tuned out right now. | ||
| Father Pavone, among the leaders of the life movement, how can the war room, we're here to assist, Caroline's here to assist, but tell me, we got a minute or so here, tell me in your mind what has to happen. | ||
| We have to come together. | ||
| We have to get the pro-life donors pouring more money into these battles. | ||
| However, I'm on the same page with you both. | ||
| The messaging is not consistent, even when we have these meetings of the leaders. | ||
| And I think that if the leaders of all the different groups hear from their constituents, hear from our War Room followers, that, listen, you guys have to get together. | ||
| Talk with each other before you talk to us. | ||
| And get the messaging together, get it clear. | ||
| It's not like we don't have, you know, resources to get good messaging together. | ||
| And I think if everyone encourages whatever pro-life groups they support. | ||
| We love you guys, but I will be blunt. | ||
| There's not a donor and a big donor, even the pro-life donor is going to give a penny after this fiasco in Ohio, given what's happened and given what's for until you guys come together with a coherent, understandable plan that you can then back up with the muscle that you guys can deliver it for the grassroots. There's no doubt you guys have you know have ground game and have the ability to deliver that but to get the resources you're gonna need to compete you got Swiss Bayonets and remember they'll put in unlimited money. | ||
| Because now they think they've got a formula. | ||
| The New York Times lead story today is a new coalition's come together. | ||
| They think they've got it. | ||
| They think they've got that they can run the tables in 2024. | ||
| And Caroline's right. | ||
| You're going to see all these initiatives come up in all these states that, you know, Trump must win. | ||
| And we have the economic argument. | ||
| You have the geopolitical. | ||
| I think we got the cultural. | ||
| This is the one that's out there. | ||
| And they know that. | ||
| That's why it's going to be a wedge issue. | ||
| Father Proveno, where do people go and get you? | ||
| How do they find you? | ||
| At F.R. | ||
| Frank Pavone on all the social media. | ||
| F.R. | ||
| Frank Pavone. | ||
| And that's where I am. | ||
| Thank you, Father. | ||
| Caroline, what I want to do is try to get you for maybe later this afternoon, because we've got to go into this in more detail. | ||
| I just want to get this on the table. | ||
| This is a big deal. | ||
| It's got to be focused. | ||
| You can't sweep this on the table. | ||
| You can't look the other way. | ||
| You've got to get on top of this. | ||
| It keeps happening. | ||
| And these are not squeak out wins. | ||
| I mean, a lot of the life people were on the last couple days and then last night on TV saying, oh, if all the votes come in, we got the counties. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| These are blowouts. | ||
| You have to face reality. | ||
| It can be overcome. | ||
| It can be overcome. | ||
| It takes work. | ||
| It takes focus. | ||
| It takes all of it. | ||
| But it takes, first off, people presenting a plan. | ||
| Here's what we got. | ||
| Here's how can we do it. | ||
| In Arizona, is going to be in play. | ||
| Caroline, I tell you what, we'll get you back on hopefully this afternoon. | ||
| I want to go through Arizona and these other states. | ||
| It's quite important. | ||
| So thank you. | ||
| I know you're running around trying to organize all this and I really appreciate it. | ||
| How do people get you on social media? | ||
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Sure. | |
| It's at Caroline Wren on Twitter and Gitter and Truth Social. | ||
| Okay, Caroline, thank you. | ||
| We'll contact you right after the show. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Our tribute to American music, we normally start it in this block. | ||
| Because of these intense conversations, we're going to hold it. | ||
| Very important, I had a great lead up to it. | ||
| Okay, DC Drano, I got Patty McMurray, Jim Hoft, what in the hell is going on in Michigan? | ||
| Short commercial break, back in a moment. | ||
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| you Okay, we'll get into more of that this afternoon and obviously in the days ahead because this is a major issue that has to be addressed now. | ||
| Has to be addressed in August of 2023. | ||
| Cannot wait, cannot fast forward. | ||
| It's been enough looking the other way and kicking the can down the road. | ||
| That is not acceptable anymore. | ||
| We cannot lose 2024 when so many things are going with us and this coalition's coming together and the economic news is going to get worse and worse and worse and the geopolitical news is going to get worse and worse and worse to have this happen. | ||
| So stay tuned here for further developments. | ||
| D.C. | ||
| Drano, Rogan O'Hanley, Michigan. | ||
| This blockbuster story. | ||
| Jim Hoft of the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| Or I guess Jim Hoff is the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| And Patty McMurray is going to join us in a second with new updates. | ||
| Rogan, walk me through your thoughts on this. | ||
| Yeah, huge props to Gateway Pundit for putting all these pieces together. | ||
| So a lot of people might remember that Gateway Pundit was banned off Twitter for posting the now very viral video of the 3 a.m. | ||
| ballot dumps in the Detroit TCF arena, unsupervised by GOP poll workers. | ||
| It looked like they had hundreds of thousands of ballots. | ||
| And then we saw the infamous vote spike two to three hours later for Joe Biden. | ||
| And then he ended up squeaking out Michigan. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And what's interesting about this is there's the white van that you're seeing on the screen where all the ballots are being dumped. | ||
| And it, what precedes the white van is a rental car, right? | ||
| A rental car with plates that look like they're from Pennsylvania. | ||
| Now there's been no investigation on this. | ||
| When Gateway Pundit acquired this video in February, 2021, they were banned. | ||
| Now we find out in this bombshell story from Gateway Pundit that the Michigan law enforcement led by Attorney General Dana Nessel, has been suppressing a massive voter fraud scandal. | ||
| What happened is there is this organization called GBI Strategies, right? And they hire these foot soldiers. We saw this in 2000 Mules. They were depositing eight to 10,000 voter registrations in a single dump. | ||
| One person would walk into a city clerk's office and dump eight to 10,000 ballot registrations. | ||
| And where they found this person was in Muskegon, Michigan, which I was like, oh, maybe that's a major metropolis. | ||
| Maybe it's close to Detroit, hundreds of miles away. | ||
| This has a population of 38,000 people and a Democrat operative Dropped off eight to 10,000 ballots, a ballot registration. | ||
| They went through them. | ||
| They saw a lot of them had the same handwriting, the same signatures, fake addresses, fake phone numbers. | ||
| And then when they investigated this in October of 2020, they staked out the warehouse where they were operating out of. | ||
| And when they did an investigation, they found AR-15s with silencers. | ||
| They found prepaid cash cards. | ||
| They found burner phones. | ||
| They found paperwork for rental cars and then they checked the trash and the trash had all the employment agreements of their operatives. | ||
| They were cleaning it up. | ||
| And so Jim Hoft has exposed this. | ||
| The attorney general was involved with the investigation. | ||
| She has not said a single thing about it. | ||
| She's a Democrat, Dana Nessel. | ||
| And here's the worst part. | ||
| The FBI was brought in and then the whole thing got basically shut down. | ||
| We haven't heard about this for three years until the Gateway Pundit exposed it. | ||
| Rogan, I'm gonna go to Jim and Patty in a second, but you lay out this narrative very succinctly, and I realize Dana Nessel is a bad unit, right? | ||
| I got that. | ||
| And I got that, you know, you got Whitmer, you got all these people, but you've got Other voices out there. | ||
| Other people knew. | ||
| I mean, where are the local Republican prosecutors? | ||
| Where's the local Republican Party? | ||
| At the time, the Republicans controlled, I think, the House and the Senate. | ||
| They don't anymore. | ||
| Where are, why is it three years late, and why does it take Jim Hoff and Petty McMurray at Gateway Pundit to expose this? | ||
| Where have the people in Michigan that are responsible on the Republican side to do this? | ||
| That's where first accountability has got to be. | ||
| How did this go? | ||
| Until August of 2023 on Gateway Pundit and War Room to bring this forward when there's tons of people out there that should have known about this. | ||
| There's job to know about it and to make it a huge deal, sir. | ||
| And that's the million-dollar question. | ||
| I think what we have realized now is that when you find evidence of voter fraud, do not kick it up to Democrat attorney generals. | ||
| Do not kick it up to the FBI and the DOJ. | ||
| They will suppress it. | ||
| This has to be handled locally. | ||
| What the Democrats are doing, like in New York City, when they're going after Trump, we have to do the same. | ||
| Keep it local, okay? | ||
| And one of the things to tie in with all this Why would they have these prepaid cards? | ||
| Why would they have these burner phones? | ||
| Because these jobs were listed publicly. | ||
| Come make $15 an hour. | ||
| You'll reach out to people, get out the vote. | ||
| And they got a ton of money from Democrat PACs, right? | ||
| There's GBI strategies, which I don't want to, you know, jump on Jim's story. | ||
| They just dropped it. | ||
| Uh, and what this woman testified to the police is she was getting over $1,100 a week, right? | ||
| Do you think she was working a hundred hours a week? | ||
| No, they were given these prepaid cards. | ||
| It was kept outside of the banks. | ||
| It was kept outside of the employment agreements. | ||
| Getting these prepaid cars to do the dirty work, to communicate on the burner phones, to mule this stuff around in the rental cars, and then we saw the rental car on the night when the ballot spike happened, when they dumped those votes. | ||
| This is all tied together. | ||
| I think Gateway Pundit has unlocked this. | ||
| Before I let you go, the reason I wanted to do these two back-to-back, the Ohio situation and now what's happening, what we're finding out in Michigan, is twofold. | ||
| Number one, as we've said now for A long time, but really focus the last couple of months and we're going to have more of this with the Bill McGinley's are going to come on and more Caroline Wren's. | ||
| Because the Democratic Party works through this Arabella and others with these outside groups that have hundreds of millions of dollars and if they need it, they'll put in billions. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| To run the tables, not going, it's not traditional. | ||
| It's not traditional. | ||
| We're fighting very conventionally, very traditionally. | ||
| That money's coming from the outside. | ||
| What you saw in Ohio and what you see here in Michigan with how this GB strategy got funded, it's just the other side of the same coin. | ||
| Number one, that's the key point. | ||
| Put that in your mind. | ||
| Okay, I see. | ||
| And this is why they announced, I think it was in Zero Hedge a couple weeks ago, they had a story, I think from Epoch Times, that they aggregated. | ||
| It's $2 billion of money coming already in outside groups for 2024. | ||
| Biden's campaign is not, I mean, they're raising money, but not that level. | ||
| And they've got Trump spending all his money on legal. | ||
| That's the opportunity cost. | ||
| They want to put Trump and spend all his time and money and focus on the legal. | ||
| That's where we got to have mass clarity. | ||
| But the other, and I don't mean to seem harsh, And I'll hold myself accountable to our efforts are just not good enough. | ||
| They're just not good enough and we got to stop thinking they're good enough this thing in Michigan and we're going to have a Hoft and McMurray on here a second. | ||
| It's just not acceptable that we're in August of 2023 and this is just now coming up. | ||
| It's just, and this is on our side of the football, the efforts, whatever efforts have been, just like the efforts in Ohio. | ||
| I realize a lot of people put time and effort in it, but you guys forced it. | ||
| You wanted it on in early August, and let's be blunt, the Morning Joe guys are correct, because that's when you have lower turnouts, because everybody's, you know, gone fishing. | ||
| You do that and you get smoked. | ||
| It's just not good enough. | ||
| The only thing that matters here is victory. | ||
| Okay, there's no substitute for victory, and we have to get that into their mind, our mind. | ||
| Remember, as Napoleon told his marshals, when you set out to take Vienna, take Vienna. | ||
| No crying, no tears, no excuses, no oh with this. | ||
| You know, Father Pavone, like I said, you got to get that group of leaders of life, and you got to start banging some heads, and people get organized. | ||
| We're tired of the whining, and why it didn't happen, and this and that, and then they're running the tables, and in Michigan the same way. | ||
| And part of this investigation ought to be not just how Dana Nessel, and it was suppressed by the FBI, yes, but who else knew about this, either in the Michigan legislature, law enforcement, anything, and why is this not, why was this not coming up back in November and December of 2020? | ||
| You know, it seems to me That we're having a couple of court cases about that time frame from November to January 6th. | ||
| I think there's a couple three things that may be happening. | ||
| Why was this not up with Republican authorities pushing this? | ||
| DC Drano, go ahead, you get the final word here. | ||
| Here's my one optimistic point to end this segment, is now we know how this system works, okay? | ||
| We didn't fully understand how this worked before. | ||
| Now, by putting this out on your broadcast to the War Room Posse, people who are city clerks, who are working in these administrative offices, who are, you know, working in election offices, They can understand how this game works, right? | ||
| So if this was happening in Muskegon, a city of 38,000 people, just imagine what was going on in Detroit. | ||
| If they're dropping 10,000, it ended up being 12,500 in a population of 38,000. | ||
| Just imagine what's happening in these cities with hundreds of thousands and with Democrat operatives that look the other way. | ||
| Trump won by 15,000 votes in 2016, probably a lot more, and they showed that Joe Biden allegedly won by 150,000 votes. | ||
| They must have been doing this all over the place. | ||
| And what Jim Hoft is probably going to tell you soon is that this organization, this single organization, GBI Strategies, was operating in 20 different states. | ||
| Just imagine how many millions of potential fraudulent ballots alone came from this organization. | ||
| And the lay of the predicate for the fraudulent ballots, you gotta get the phony voter registrations in there. | ||
| This is Nevada, this is Pennsylvania, this is all of it. | ||
| This is why, and I love Mike Lindell and the election summit and the machines and everything like that, but historically, when I say I'm not a machine guy, this is how they do it. | ||
| This we can prove is how they do it. | ||
| The machines, I know you guys are working on it, I think you can prove that, and God bless you, and I want, you know, machines gotta go, we gotta have paper ballots, but this is the way they did it. | ||
| It's to get the phony registrations in there, the phony mail-in ballots, and that's how they win. | ||
| And by the way, that's what we can prove in court on Trump's trials. | ||
| They don't track the signatures. | ||
| Signature verification. | ||
| This was Pennsylvania, the envelope and the ballot. | ||
| DC, and this is why the Trump case, the Trump trial, we get to show this, but this is what's not acceptable. | ||
| This shouldn't be 2023, and the great heroism of Jim Hoff, who's been shut down everywhere, right? | ||
| They're trying to crush Hoff all the time, and Patty McMurray. | ||
| DC, how do people, what's your social media, how do people get to you? | ||
| DCDrano.com, you can sign up for my email list, and probably hottest on Twitter and Truth these days, DC underscore Drano. | ||
| Putting out all the election fraud, all the J6 truth as much as I can because I like so many people watching this and pissed off at the corruption. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you, DC. | ||
| By the way, I'm not saying we're holding ourselves accountable to it. | ||
| We have to do more and we have to do it better. | ||
| I've talked to the, we have to do more. | ||
| We have to do better. | ||
| Although we're doing a lot behind the scenes, you can't see it's not good enough because we're not winning. | ||
| I don't care about anything else but victory. | ||
| There's no second place here. | ||
| There's no substitute for victory on these. | ||
| Jim Hoff, I've only got a minute. | ||
| We're gonna hold you through the break. | ||
| Just give me the headlines of what the new explosive material you've now found, sir. | ||
| Thanks to D.C. | ||
| Drano. | ||
| That was amazing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we digged a little deeper into GBI strategies. | ||
| We found the founder of this group, the director of this group. | ||
| And as D.C. | ||
| Drano said, they have operations in 20 different states. | ||
| He has This is a news breaker. | ||
| He has 70 different organizations he says he is running. | ||
| This Gary Bell is his name. | ||
| I think we struck pay dirt, Steve. | ||
| I think we found the deep state of the campaign operations on the Democrat Party. | ||
| And so we have a lot on his funding that's coming up. | ||
| And we also have more on Gary Bell. | ||
| And I'm sure that the Democrats Well, not like that we're going to be talking about this player. | ||
| No, no, but watch out. | ||
| Hoffman and them are about to get shut down again. | ||
| They're going to come in for a low bombing run on Gateway Pundit because they're not going to like what they hear. | ||
| But just a heads up to the RNC. | ||
| Where were you during this? | ||
| You know, you're spending all your time sucking up to Murdoch. | ||
| The second debate, the second, they're actually going to have a second give Murdoch two debates, the first two, to set the narrative. | ||
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| He went even beyond War Room. | ||
| A hostile network. | ||
| Not TV for stupid people. | ||
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| Host Stephen K. Bound. | ||
| in the second hour. | ||
| We're going to go through a bunch of stuff with Mike. | ||
| I'll turn the floor over to you. | ||
| Walk me through this again, because this is huge, and I want to take our time and go through this. | ||
| So walk me through it again, Jim Hoffman. | ||
| All right, Steve, and thanks to DC Drano again. | ||
| That was a great intro. | ||
| What we found yesterday, and we brought this to the War Room and the War Room audience, and for the record, Steve, that story went completely viral yesterday. | ||
| And you know it struck a vein because the fake fact checkers were out, you know, trying to disqualify our reporting, pointing out to anything they could find. | ||
| But we stand by our reporting. | ||
| It's very strange when your audience thinks of this, an average American, that you would have an office like this where they're writing out registrations Uh, several of the registrations we know was, uh, they were, uh, um, in the same handwriting. | ||
| That was something that was a red flag immediately at the city clerk's office in Muskegon, Michigan. | ||
| Um, also in this office, uh, they have the semi-automatic weapons plus silencers. | ||
| I mean, doesn't every campaign office need to have those with burner phones? | ||
| Um, with, with, uh, different t-shirts and with these cash cards and Steve, They are so organized with this. | ||
| The fact that they're not just paying cash cards, but they went and got different cash cards to make sure that it's harder to trace. | ||
| Isn't that interesting? | ||
| So they've been, you know, that says to me, this is something that they've thought about. | ||
| It's organized, it's coordinated. | ||
| And then today, what we found was That this director of GBI Strategies, and this was the two offices they were talking about in the Muskegon area, that they raided one of the offices. | ||
| This director admits in this bio page of this obscure website, by the way, this man's name is Gary Bell. | ||
| He literally has nothing online. | ||
| It's hard to find anything about this person. | ||
| We scoured the internet. | ||
| We had one of our AI experts, who you may know, looking through. | ||
| It's hard to find anything. | ||
| What we did find was that he was bragging on this one website, in his bio, about how he was working with 70 different organizations. | ||
| This is Gary Bell. | ||
| He's the one who's the director of GBI Strategies. | ||
| He also says that he has offices, not just in Michigan, but in 20 different states. | ||
| And that he's working with seven other states as an advisor. | ||
| So this is a significant power player on the left. | ||
| And it's interesting, isn't it, Steve, that he's hidden and that we haven't heard more about him in the past as much as we've looked into election fraud. | ||
| Well, look, it's dark money and they want to be under the cover of night. | ||
| Continue on, Jim. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And speaking of dark money, then, we found that this BlackPak, this organization, was donating a lot of money to this GBI Strategies. | ||
| And we found that from OpenSecrets and the FEC filings. | ||
| And the BlackPak, again, we're not sure where the money's coming for that. | ||
| It looks like, you know, dark money on the left. | ||
| Again, we have to research that more. | ||
| But here they had spent, in one FEC filing that we put up today, this BlackPak had spent $11 million, according to the FEC, during the 2020 election. | ||
| In another filing we saw, and this was in OpenSecrets, we found that there was several million that BlackPak was giving to different organizations, including GBI Strategies, And we also found that with GBI strategies, they were getting money from, directly from, the Democratic senatorial campaign. | ||
| And they're linked to Joe Biden. | ||
| We also found, isn't this interesting, that, and this is Kanekoa the Great, a phenomenal investigator on Twitter who wrote us and who's been putting up information on this. | ||
| We also found that Hillary Clinton was working with this group, too, back in 2016, but she didn't put in that much money. | ||
| I think $58,000 from Hillary. | ||
| Maybe she should have invested a little more, and she might have had different results. | ||
| Steve, I'd like to add one thing, too. | ||
| We've been writing about the Eric system, and this is something we've written about for a couple of years. | ||
| It's in several states. | ||
| It was in 32 states. | ||
| It was advertised as was this voter rolls system where they're going to delete all the fraudulent voter rolls and the dead voters and everything. | ||
| And what we found out was it's doing anything but that. | ||
| And that all of these states have bloated voter rolls, especially the Eric system states. | ||
| And we wrote about this through our contributors. | ||
| And now nine different states have dropped that system. | ||
| I think that's a significant move. | ||
| In securing our elections. | ||
| I want to get into all this. | ||
| Can you and Patty just hold? | ||
| I want to take you guys through the break. | ||
| We've got Patty McMurray and Jim Hoffman, this exploding story in Michigan. | ||
| We also have Tara Dahl at the border. | ||
| Brian Costello is going to join us. | ||
| We are packed. | ||
| We're going to get it all in. | ||
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