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Episode 2932: Continued Coverups Of Human Traffickers At The Southern Border
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
ben bergquam
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
donald j trump
And the Republicans better get tough and they better get smart because most of them look like a bunch of weak jerks right now.
unidentified
And you gotta get tough and smart and you have to fight fire with fire.
You can't allow this to go on.
The fact of the matter is, this is now Donald Trump's nomination.
Uh, the best thing that has happened to him, ironically, have been these indictments because in his cult of personality base, he's able to play the victim.
He's doing that strategically, deliberately, and it's why you see him increase his numbers.
That 34-point lead basically renders Ron DeSantis also Ran DeSantis.
His candidacy, I believe, is now over.
And you're looking at who else might emerge.
It might be Tim Scott.
It might be even Nikki Haley.
It might be Bebe.
They're going to look at someone else.
But for all intents and purposes, Donald Trump has a loggerhead's lock on this nomination.
He's going to take it away from him.
You know, Carlos, even Pence, though, is able to fundraise pretty effectively off of this latest indictment.
But last night, he had a town hall.
He got booed.
He got booed and called a traitor.
I mean, kind of the question that I posed to you regarding Ron DeSantis.
Is there still some merit and value to the idea of courting MAGA Trump voters?
Should Mike Pence actually take a page out of a DeSantis new playbook and say, mm-mm, I'm definitely going to distance myself from Donald Trump?
Look, Katie, I don't know if that strategy is going to work, but it's the only one that can work.
Donald Trump is a chronic and compulsive liar.
The only way you can hope to beat him, and it'll be tough because a lot of these voters are so committed to him, but the only way you can hope to beat him is with the truth, is by telling people this is what actually happened in 2020.
This is what happened on January 6th.
We don't want to go back to that.
Republicans, we want to win in 2024.
This is not Donald Trump, the candidate who is most likely to help us win.
That's the only strategy.
That's the only way.
But these candidates are driven by their fear of Trump and the MAGA base that they refuse to say this.
The longer they refuse to say it, the longer they're going to be lagging in the polls.
If they don't take this opportunity, you could see someone like Glenn Young and someone else come into this race and really capture the imaginations of some of these voters that might say, well, I like Trump, but maybe we should go with someone else.
You know, but Fernand, to Carlos's point, there's an online poll that Sam, when we just talked about from Reuters and Ipsos in the days after the indictment, it shows that nearly half of Republican voters say they would not vote for Donald Trump if he's convicted of I mean, half is pretty decent.
Then you see on the screen, 35% said they would still vote.
For him.
But I mean, if we're actually getting to the point where almost half of Republican voters wouldn't vote for a felony convicted Donald Trump, is this a turning in the tide of those types of voters?
Yeah, I don't think so.
Because I mean, we've had this national for what, almost seven years.
What's it going to be to knock Donald Trump off of his base?
I keep saying it over and over again.
This is a personality cult party.
And the leader of that personality cult is Donald Trump.
So as long as Donald Trump Desires that nomination right now.
His very freedom, personal freedom, depends on that nomination.
And he intends to keep going for it.
It's not going to be taken away.
I mean, I admire what Carlos Cabello, the congressman, is suggesting.
I think that logic in that region would work in a sane party, which is not today's Republican Party, unfortunately.
Donald Trump has this nomination on lockdown, and no one's going to take it away.
steve bannon
Saturday, 5 August, Year of the Lord 2023.
Welcome to the, what is it?
The Call to Personality Radio Hour.
MSNBC in full meltdown there as President Trump continues to show full spectrum dominance.
Of course, he was in Alabama last night.
Just incredible.
I think there were 3,000 people.
At the Marriott Renaissance in Montgomery for an incredible speech and a dinner and total support.
The entire Alabama House delegation came out and supported him.
And of course the fearless Senator Coach Tuberville.
Just an incredible show of force last night.
Also in Alabama, they reversed last night.
The library was going to shut out Kirk Cameron.
We'll get to that a little later.
We've got a lot going on.
We're going to get to Moe and Grace in a second.
We've got some updates.
Great opening day on our merch and other things.
But I want to go to, we've got Ben Burquam.
Ben and Oscar, they're not in northern Mexico, they're not in the Darien Gap, they're not in the rear Grand Valley.
Ben Berkwam is at the Eiffel Tower in Paris, and Oscar Blue Ramirez is at Normandy.
Ben, why are you throughout... Ben joins us from the Eiffel Tower in Paris.
Ben, why are you and Oscar going throughout Europe the month of August?
ben bergquam
Well, first, because our network is the best and we have awesome sponsors like Patriot Mobile who are willing to support this.
But really, Steve, it's about showing the similarities.
One thing I've realized is Americans don't realize what's happening in Europe.
Most Americans don't.
They don't know the history of Europe in particular.
And most Europeans don't know what's happening in America.
And the reality is the same invasion that we have on our southern border is being led, the invasion into Europe, it's the same enemies, it's the same people, and it's the same death of the West in Europe as it is in the United States if we don't stop it.
So we're coming over here.
Oscar, as you mentioned, is in Normandy.
I was just in Sweden with some guys up there.
They're begging for somebody to tell the story.
Even the Swedish media won't tell the story of the rapes and the murders and everything else that's come along with this.
So we're over here to tell the story that the mainstream media in the United States and in Europe won't tell.
steve bannon
Ben, Paris just a month ago had these massive riots.
Have things settled down now?
Macron actually came out with kind of a show of force after they had not just burned the suburbs but actually gone not too far where you are into the heart of actually Paris on some of the streets around the presidential palace where the high-end boutiques are.
Have things calmed down and why have they calmed down?
ben bergquam
Yeah, they have calmed down.
But it's because, as you mentioned, there was a show of force.
It took a month, basically, to have that happen.
But the expectation is it's going to happen again.
And in particular, what we just saw two days ago in Stockholm, Sweden, where over 50 people were injured, 100 people were arrested.
They burned cars.
They burned tents.
There was an event there from the Eritreans that were supporting the regime of Eritrea in Stockholm, Sweden.
So we're talking about Massive, massive danger for this country, for France, for all of the countries of Europe.
It's the same danger that we're inviting into America.
This is just the beginning, Steve.
The terror attacks are going to increase.
As you know, the ability to burn the Koran in Sweden has put Sweden on high alert.
And even here in France, we're getting reports that some of the Christian churches don't even want to convert Muslims because they're afraid that the church will be attacked if they do.
That's the level of threat and the level of violence in this city and across Europe.
And again, this is what we're inviting to America.
steve bannon
No, it's all part of the invasion of America, very much inextricably linked with what's going on in Europe.
Ben, just hang on for one second.
We're going to go back to Ben Burquham.
He's at the Eiffel Tower.
We're going to get to Oscar in a second at Normandy.
I want to go to, we've got Grace and Mo.
Grace, give us an update.
Real enthusiasm yesterday.
And I want to make sure, the reason we launched the merch site We have the newsletter.
We have the website.
We want people to download the podcast.
You guys are in charge of building the community.
Walk me through how yesterday went.
unidentified
Yesterday was such an exciting day.
I am just still overwhelmed by the response.
The emails that we got right after our hit, it just kept on coming.
We're going to get back to everyone, but I'm just beyond amazed by Um, how lit the chats were.
I mean, afterwards I went into the getter chat, the rumble chat, and everyone was just so excited and it just made me so proud to just be a part of the posse.
So I just want to thank everyone, um, you know, for the community and just, we just have to continue to build it.
And it just was an amazing day.
And, uh, I, I mean, I teared up just from just the responses and, um, just like all the recommendations that we got for merch.
Jack Posobiec texted me and all he texted me was number two, number two pencil.
So we'll try to get that.
Um, we just had, it just was so great and just really appreciate everyone's feedback and just, um, really supporting each other.
This is like the Patriot economy.
I want to shout out our partners, uh, BeardVet and also Revere Payments.
Um, just so proud that we partner with them and you know, we're just supporting each other.
And yeah, it just was such a great day.
steve bannon
Yeah, I mean, people should know I'm putting the infrastructure together.
I mean, one of the reasons it took us a while to launch, Grace, who, you know, initially had more of a financial focus at War Room, but now is really getting into kind of running things with more managerially and with marketing.
Made sure that we had the infrastructure behind it, like we don't use WinRED.
We understand that's a triggering element for the MAGA base.
Grace, I want to make sure people who've got a free flow of contacts and can give recommendations on product and everything, what's the easiest way?
I understand you're in the chats all the time, but if somebody wants to send us something, give us an idea, what's the best email?
How can they get to us best?
unidentified
You can email us at info at shopwarroom.com.
Again, that's info at shopwarroom.com.
We also have bannonswarroom at protonmail.com.
You can visit our website warroom.org and there's a contact us, it goes directly to email.
And also on getter, our warroom, at warroom, DM us and we will get back to you guys as soon as we can.
Definitely use info at shopwarroom.com.
Give us your feedback.
Give us all the merch ideas.
Anything that you see we need to improve.
We love feedback.
Positive and negative.
Everything.
steve bannon
And negative, yeah, give it to us with the bark on like the worm does.
Mo, and here's the thing, I want to make sure, the concept we have here is to get the content and get more content out.
We want to be ubiquitous, we want to meet you where you are, whether it's Rumble, whether you're over at Midnight Rider with Carly Bonet in the crowd, whether you're on other Telegram sites, whether you're in all the different chat rooms, REV, all the different chat rooms.
In the podcast, you've got, we want you to join, get on the email list and make sure you get the morning newsletter.
Mo, give us your assessment.
I know you got a bounce today.
You got a very special engagement.
I know you're going to this morning to support one of the people that we absolutely love in the War Room.
Tell me, what's your thoughts after the first day of launch?
maureen bannon
It is very exciting to see how much the Posse loves the merch.
One that seems to be the most popular is the War Room Posse shirt.
We are so excited that the Posse loves it and we just want everyone to know that this is just the beginning.
We'll continue rolling out different items.
So just because right now we have four shirts doesn't mean something that you've suggested isn't going to be coming out in the future.
Like Gray said, we're very open to suggestions.
So just Keep sending us emails, DMs, get a hold of us, tell us your suggestions, and we just, we love all the feedback from the Posse.
steve bannon
Yeah, and like I said, we're going to have more.
We've got other things we're going to launch.
We've got about five or six big initiatives between now and probably the middle to end of September, so it's a lot going on.
Grace, let me go back to you.
Social media, Grace, how do people get to you?
How do they follow you on all your social media?
unidentified
Okay, so I just wanna say, please go to warroom.org.
We have our show episodes there, our topics, where you can find Natalie's exclusives, Joe Allen's transhumanism, Ben Harnwell's articles, Steve's old speeches, our events that are coming up.
Also sign up for our newsletter, and we have exclusive content in there.
Jane's Calamity, Jane Zirkle's gonna drop her weekly videos, the top five videos of the week today.
Um, we also have, you know, Natalie, Joe Allen, Mo's going to do her CEO roundup.
And this is just so great.
So you can forward to your friends and family and just force multiply.
If you miss like the entire day show, you just got to recap of everything.
Um, but follow us on Rumble, Bannon's War Room.
Download our podcast, please.
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And you can find me on Getter at Grace Chong.
Twitter at gc22gc.
I come in really hot on Twitter, but it's a lot of fun.
And our live chats.
I want to give a shout out to Carly Bonet and the Midnight Writers.
Elizabeth doing our telegram.
Hang on one second.
steve bannon
We're hooking through the break.
We'll jump on this after the break.
Short break.
back in the room in a moment.
unidentified
We rejoice when there is no more, let's take down the CCP!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
One of the things we're doing, you can tell at the top of the show, the cold open, um, this is going to be a, um, a grind between now and election day of 2024 and every day thereafter to take down the administrative state.
So what we're doing here is trying to, uh, make more interconnections and interlinkage, uh, to the community and every aspect that you're interested in.
We're going to be doing a lot more handcrafted material on the economy, on capital markets, on energy, on all of it, politics, geopolitics, obviously the cultural issues, things like Sound of Freedom, more things we're going to help people launch, etc.
So a lot going on as we continue to build this.
Mo, what are your... by the way, Grace, thank you for that rundown.
And we want to do that every couple of days so people know all the touch points.
We're ubiquitous and want to make sure you guys know that We're never going to put up a paywall.
We want this information to be pushed out.
You guys be a force multiplier.
Mo, what are your... And by the way, I will reiterate, Grace, every now and again, will come in a little hot.
She's like Mike Davis.
Every now and again, they'll come in a little hot on Twitter.
Just a tad.
Mo, how do people get you?
maureen bannon
You can find me on Getter and Twitter at Maureen underscore Bannon and also on Instagram at RealMaureenBannon.
And just to reiterate what Grace said, if you go to warroom.org to sign up for the newsletter or check out the show notes, you can also get to the merch site.
From there, you go to the top left corner to the menu and go to shop and it will take you to shopwarroom.com.
steve bannon
One thing I want to say about going to the site today, I can't tell you how extraordinarily proud I am of Natalie Winters.
I mean, you've seen Natalie grow over the last couple of years as a college student from University of Chicago.
In fact, I think she started with us as like an intern with Rahim, even in high school, just like a couple of our producers.
Just incredible.
And the way she's handling the show as a host and her life hit.
But that piece up on, that piece up on On War Room right now, even Fox talked about it this morning, it's an extraordinary piece about this Chinese company.
Because it's not just an energy company, it's much deeper and darker than that.
It's a central part of the Chinese Communist Party's strategy to take down the United States of America.
And she really went back and did a lot of tough work nobody's done because they've cleared up The Biden crime families cleared up all those websites.
It was very tough to get to.
So I want to make sure if you go to our site, you're going to get really smart investigative reporting.
And quite frankly, the shift in attitude here about Ukraine, a lot of that is because of Ben Harnwell's great analysis coming from Rome.
So I couldn't be prouder of the team.
Guys, I know you got a lot to do today.
Thank you.
And these guys work seven days a week.
So thank you.
And we'll let you go back to work.
Grace Chong.
Captain Maureen Bannon.
All over.
Make sure you contact him.
We want feedback.
The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Okay, we got Oscar Blue.
We had him in Normandy through the break, but he's dropped.
As soon as he's back up, we will get Oscar Blue back up.
Ben Burquam.
You know, you thought... Ben's been in a moment, and Ben's got just an incredible story that he's been working on.
Uh, but I want to make sure, you know, we cover this probably more than anybody, but I don't think people understand this invasion that's happened in Europe.
And this is what's kind of driven populist politics over the last couple of years, particularly since the Syria situation in Germany back in 2015.
And I, and I kept saying that and Brexit and Brexit was very much about immigration and really illegal immigration, unlimited immigration into the country. Brexit was one of the things that was inextricably linked with Trump's victory in 2016. Just give us a thumbnail of what the European elites have allowed to happen to their countries.
ben bergquam
Well, they've allowed basically a takeover.
I mean, I don't know a better word for it.
And by the way, I'm fighting the rain, so forgive me if I have to wipe the lens a couple times here.
But yeah, they've basically allowed, it's a reinvasion.
You look back at the history of Europe and the history that they went through, a thousand years of fights with the Moors, and basically we've just allowed that back in.
through North Africa and through the Middle East.
And ultimately, it's the death of the culture of each one of these countries.
Each one of these countries is distinct.
I mean, France here, obviously, you know, there's distinct history here.
But Sweden is the same.
And all across the continent here is the same.
And the perfect example is, you know, look at Hungary, look at Poland, where they've actually stood up and fought back against some of this.
And their societies are thriving.
The right is gaining popularity and strength.
And over here, where they have embraced wokeism, they have destroyed their culture.
They've destroyed their country.
You're seeing the death of Europe as we speak.
steve bannon
Ben, one thing I want to get to.
I've got Todd Bensman coming up.
There's been some controversy, or there's been phony controversy over Sound of Freedom in the last 24 hours.
They're trying to say, oh, one of the financiers is a child trafficker.
Nothing can be further from the truth, and I'm going to get up with the Sound of Freedom guys.
They've got me the information about that.
Todd Bensman's got an incredible piece that's up.
We're going to get to Todd in a second.
The trafficking of children is a global problem.
Right?
Walk me through that.
I want to make sure we keep our eye on the focus of the trafficking of children.
As Carrie Lake says, not for sex, for rape and torture, but also the trafficking of women.
It's a global issue.
Sound of Freedom.
I think this weekend they're trying to crack $170-$175 million and we gotta drive this film to $200 million to send a message to Hollywood.
Give me your thoughts on that.
ben bergquam
Well, just to give you an example, Dictator Maduro in Venezuela, I believe, is the largest drug trafficker in the world.
I also believe he may be the largest human trafficker in the world.
And if you look at the tentacles where he goes to, the pipeline of drugs and people come right through Europe.
They've actually tracked this.
They know where it's going, but there are so many people bought off in Europe and across Asia and the Middle East that it's basically a known scandal that's going on.
But it's the same thing.
I mean, speaking about the enemies, you know, we know the United Nations that's working to have open borders everywhere, that's enabling human trafficking, knows exactly what's going on.
They're working on our border.
They're working here in Europe.
And you and you have these these dictators, you have these cartels and you have these criminal syndicate organizations working out of the Middle East.
These guys are actually literally working.
They have trade deals with terrorist organizations.
They have trade deals with Al-Qaeda.
They work directly with them.
It's people and drugs.
They do not care.
They will sell a five-year-old child.
They do not care.
It is the most evil, evil, evil on the planet.
And it's been going on for decades.
They know it's been going on.
I mean, again, Epstein Island.
That's just one.
That's just one of one of these horrific places where children are are tortured and destroyed every single day and that's what we want to show. We want to show the truth and sadly the mainstream media I believe is complicit if not directly involved with it in some cases as well because there's silence. If you see what we see and I know they see it, you can't be silent about it.
steve bannon
This note makes no sense.
You've got to put it in English.
My producer.
Oscar's back up.
Okay, great.
You can just tell me that.
Ben, we're going to let you... Tell me, where are you going to be throughout the month?
Yeah, we're doing some... We're calling audibles here.
Where are you going to be the rest of the month?
ben bergquam
Well, we're just starting here.
I'm actually linking up with Oscar and Chuck Holton.
He's the one that's really kind of guiding this.
We've been working with him on this as well.
So I'll be linking up with them later tonight.
We'll be back here in Paris.
But I just want to say thank you to, again, PatriotMobile.com, to all of our audience.
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And just stay tuned.
The footage that Oscar just got in from the border right there in France yesterday.
Incredible!
We're going to be bringing you stuff you haven't seen before.
So stay tuned.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
We'll let you go.
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Thank you very much, Ben.
We'll let you go.
Go back to your travels.
As soon as we can hook up with Oscar.
Oscar's in Normandy, but we're having a tough time with the link, so we're getting back up.
Bensman, Todd Bensman, incredible piece, and a couple things have gone on, and I want to make sure people know.
Todd, thank you for joining us, and we're going to get into your piece in a second.
This whole thing about some financier of Sound of Freedom is a trafficker.
Nothing could be farther from the truth.
They had the crowdsourcing.
Some guy gave a couple of hundred dollars, which is great.
That's what they want people to do.
I think they had 6,600.
But it turns out that guy's a landlord of a woman who's in some custody dispute with, I guess, the father of her child or her ex-husband or something.
And somehow the landlord, just because he rents her, got connected with it.
So they went and gave an exclusive comment, I think, to Deadline, the team over at Angel Studio.
I tell you what, let's take a break.
We're gonna get to one of my favorite songs.
The Girl That Left Behind.
It's kind of an old English, I think, Calvary song adapted by the U.S.
Calvary out west.
I think in the Revolutionary War, too.
I believe out of the John Ford movie.
She wore a yellow ribbon.
Back in a moment.
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All the dames of France are fond and free, their lips are more than willing.
I'll warm the maids of Italy, and Spanish eyes are thrilling.
Oh, the English charm me with their smile, and yet they fail to find me.
For my heart falls back to Larenzau, to the girl I left behind me For she's as fair as Shannenstein and purer than its water But she refused to be my bride, though many a year I sought her.
Yet since the day I wrote away her letters of reminding, I'll be returning from the fray to the girl I left behind me.
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Oh, the English charm made witness, while I knew, they failed to find me.
For my heart falls back to where it's found, to the girl I left behind me.
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Host, Stephen K. Bound Oh Okay, I think we've taken care of our hookup problems.
steve bannon
We have Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Oscar, normally you're in the Darien Gap.
You're in one of these more dangerous places in Mexico as the invasion of America.
You're witness to that, or somewhere dangerous on the southern border.
You're in Normandy today.
Tell us where you are, and we'll try to get this sorted and played on Monday.
I think you're at Calais.
You're reporting down there.
This migration that's going on.
Walk me through where you are and what's the story you're covering.
oscar blue ramirez
Sir, we are in Normandy.
The church that you see right here is really historical.
It's St.
Augustine.
It was one hospital for World War I and II.
This is in Deauville, Normandy.
That is where we are located.
A couple of days ago, we were in Calais.
That is, you know, one of the parts that has been overrun by migrants from North Sudan and ultimately also by the Middle East.
It is a copy paste of what is happening to the United States.
It's this globalist Open border agenda and also this globalist compact of immigration, how it's damaged countries and how it's damaging the country of France.
We had a couple of interviews with these migrants from North Sudan and a lot of them, they're living in migrant camps.
A lot of them, they're just stranded over here and they're, you know, it has record numbers of people that they have come through this specific border.
Also, we came and we landed first in Amsterdam.
We went through one of the villages in Netherlands where the environmentalists have just hijacked The freedom of the farmers.
The farmers, their land has been taken over by these globalist and environmentalist agenda which they are saying that the fertilizer or whatever they are cultivating it is polluting and because of that all their land it is going to be hijacked and taken by the government and they're going to make it as governmental housing for migrants that they have also another humongous problem over there with mass migration, sir.
steve bannon
Oscar, you've seen the hard-working folks in Mexico that are being overrun by this invasion coming through their towns.
You've documented this over the last couple of years for us.
Also in northern Mexico, we have these huge camps that come up.
Is it basically the same thing throughout the world you're seeing in Europe, where hard-working folks are just being overrun because the globalists are allowing this massive, unmitigated, unstopped migration to just occur?
oscar blue ramirez
Yes, sir.
And exactly as you have said in the past, the middle-class citizen, the hard-working taxpayer, you know, citizen is the one that gets affected.
Over here in Calais, they were telling us that they have been driven and overrun by migrants, and it has affected their economy, and most importantly, the security of the citizens.
And the priority is that they Feel that they are being replaced.
The same ideology that is happening in Central and South America with a lot of countries.
They are thinking that the migrants are continuously overrun these cities and they're affecting the capitalism, mom-and-pop businesses.
It's exactly like here in Europe.
It's a copy-paste of what is happening in France, of what is happening in Mexico, in our country of Mexico, that is being overrun by this mass migration, the corrupt government of Mexico not, you know, controlling this and just the massive influx into the United States and to the border towns of the U.S., sir.
steve bannon
Before we let you go, in Calais, it's backed up there because the British are actually being tougher on migration, because that's right there where the tunnel is.
The migrants can't get through to Britain, so that's why it's building up in these villages or these temporary camps in Calais.
oscar blue ramirez
Yes, and another thing.
Calais built a wall across some governmental buildings.
They call it the Great Wall of Calais.
More than 12 migrants have died in this recent year in terms to migrants trying to cross on boat through the canal to the UK.
So that means that the UK is being much stronger and tougher on letting migrants overrun their cities as they are crossing from France to the UK, sir.
steve bannon
Oscar, how can people follow you and Ben on your travels?
You're doing some amazing reporting.
I want to try to get some of your footage up on money, try to get you back, but how do people in the interim follow you guys?
oscar blue ramirez
Thank you much, sir.
Oscar Blue on Twitter, Oscar Blue on all social media, and of course at realamericansvoices.com, sir.
steve bannon
Okay, Oscar, thank you so much.
Great reporting.
Be safe.
It's as dangerous there as it is in northern Mexico, trust me, or in the Rio Grande Valley.
Todd Bensman, you've done a better job of covering this than probably anybody.
Your reporting's been incredible.
But you've got a piece up that's pretty shocking.
I want to talk about Sound of Freedom because they're trying to shut down this film.
In every way possible, right?
They can't ignore it because it's such a big Hollywood hit, and quite frankly, it's a bigger hit than the Tom Cruise movie, which has Hollywood shocked, and also the Indiana Jones.
And this is with virtually no marketing money.
Walk me through your... I just told you about this phony thing they're trying to do about one of the financiers.
A guy gave a couple hundred bucks, which is great.
They want to crowdsource.
But just because he rents to some woman, some dispute with her husband or her ex-boyfriend about their child, the law got involved because he's the landlord, and all of a sudden they said he's a child trafficker.
It's just a bald-faced lie.
And that's exactly what they're trying to do to shut this film down.
Give me your take on it through your article.
todd bensman
Well, undeniably there is a concerted campaign underway To discredit that film by casting aspersions and a dark cloud over the makers of the film and the lead actor in the film so that people will not go see the film itself, which is apolitical.
I saw the film looking for politics or something, QAnon or whatever, and I didn't see it.
It's just simply a message that was filmed before Any of this stuff came up about QAnon or any of that.
But the message of the film, if you're going to discredit the film and the connection between human trafficking and the open borders and border security, then my point is, why not take a look at actual court cases that are in play right now under Merritt Garland, DOJ?
And I found two very recent ones.
They just pop up in my feed for DOJ press releases.
They put press releases out about these, and they're horrific.
They're worse, or as bad if not worse, than anything that's depicted in the film.
And it's written by DOJ prosecutors, who I think would be above reproach in telling these stories.
And one of them is just a horrific story.
about a bordello that was being run for 20 years in Mission, Texas, right in front of everybody.
They were bringing in an underage girl, this woman and her son, bringing in, smuggling them over the border and then putting them into a debt bondage situation where they had to prostitute themselves and turn over all the money, never could get out of the debt bondage.
These are underage children, girls.
Mostly in some young women and what they would do is they would just beat the crap out of them if they didn't comply and furthermore if some of them had children they would take the kids away and Control access to the children based on how and how how many tricks they turn this went on all the way up until last year and
Finally, after 20 years, somebody found this place, did it, raided it, and put these two in prison.
My story goes into great detail about what happened, and it's based strictly on prosecutors under Merrick Garland narratives, legalistic narratives.
And with the case agent, Homeland Security, HSI, just like Tim Ballard, these guys are still out there swinging.
The other case, Just broke two about Cubans who illegally crossed the border and claimed fake asylum, who were pimps and who ran prostitution rings in Cuba.
They brought their girls over the border with them, set them up in Houston strip clubs all over the city of Houston.
And then started bringing more Cuban girls and women over the southern border to claim asylum, usually at Laredo, the port of Laredo.
And then gang-pressed them into work in these strip clubs to hook for money.
And they would beat them, they would abuse them, keep them under their control.
And this is happening right now, and there's just these two cases.
And I just wanted my piece to really—it's long, it's about 2,000 words.
But I think every bit of it was warranted, and I just wanted to show, if you don't want to watch the movie, if you don't believe the movie, because it's coming from Christian makers, or maybe a lead actor who's a little weird, as though no Hollywood actors are weird, like Tom Cruise, for example, then go look at these court cases that were written up by, right now, by the Biden Department of Justice.
steve bannon
But the cases are, and I want everybody to read the piece, but isn't one of the fundamental differences here is that the very first thing that the Trump administration did was, their focus was to try to seal the border and get control of the border, so then we could actually have an immigration system that works.
But the underlying foundation is do it, and in doing that, make the trafficking of women and children a high priority.
Right?
Biden, on the very first day of their administration, the very first day of the administration, took off all the executive orders and everything we had tried to do.
Isn't that the compare and contrast?
I understand.
Merrick Garland, you've got prosecutors in here.
But if you look at those cases, they're kind of dribs and drabs.
They're very important, but they're kind of... And I think that does reinforce the movie as a factual movie.
But when you look at the overall picture, I mean, what we've lost I mean, you've reported this.
We've lost 85,000 into the system, and Cornyn actually says he thinks it's 350,000 in the system.
And we know we have these open brothels in the Houston area that whistleblowers come and talk about all the time, and yet the U.S.
government doesn't stop it, and I would actually argue is exacerbating it, Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
I mean, I point out in the piece, and I'll say it here, That the more mass migration you have crossing that border, the more trafficked children will be crossing among them.
The tighter your control on the border, the fewer.
I'm not saying that some of these women and girls weren't trafficked under prior administrations and under prior border situations.
I'm arguing in general that lax policies that lure people...
It's connected.
steve bannon
Look, you're an expert.
Totally connected.
But if you don't get back to something basic, like walk people through about the DNA testing.
Why is it?
Because this is this whole concept of family separations.
First off, you have to understand if they're even a family, right?
Walk me through the difference in what Trump and the Trump administration try to do with what Biden's doing.
todd bensman
I'm glad you asked that.
That's a great point.
Nobody is really reporting this the way it ought to be reported.
The Trump administration realized that family units were crossing because there were legal loopholes, and he was trying to close up these legal loopholes.
They were very advantageous to family groups that were coming in.
If you had a kid, it was the golden ticket in.
That meant that children became a commodity that could be bought and sold, and often were, by people who didn't have children to get in over the border.
Trump ended that by putting in place rapid DNA familial testing at the border.
Get a swab on your cheek, and 45 minutes later, you'd know whether that kid was theirs or not.
Most of the people in those lines who had fake kids with them broke right then and there.
They didn't even go through it.
They'd just go, hands up.
Okay, you got me.
I'm not doing this.
The Biden administration ended rapid DNA testing at the border because the hour was too long.
They would congregate down there and they wanted to just move them through before the Fox News drones got over top of them.
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And I think that this is probably the most terrible thing- Todd, Todd, Todd, Todd.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Hang on.
We've got to go to a break.
I want to stick, I want to stick on this point when we get back.
Todd Bensman with us on the other side.
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Spread the word all through Hong Kong.
We'll wait till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the C.C.B.
Your host, Stephen K. Bann.
Stephen K. Banz.
steve bannon
Todd Bensman.
Todd, look, the reason we did that, the reason President Trump did that in the first days of his administration, they understand that cartels, that cartels have great lawyers.
These are massive businesses.
They're talking about the trafficking of women and children for sex.
Globally, I think it's $150 billion annually.
It's a big business.
Here in the United States, it's a massive business.
And Carrie Lake says it's right.
It's not, you can't say sex, it's the rape and torture Of women and children.
That's what it is, the rape and torture of women and children.
The cartels knew it.
They gamed the system.
It wasn't just people trying to have a golden ticket by just snatching a child and doing it.
A lot of those were trafficked and President Trump knew that.
And this is why I say, Biden, I understand they may have a problem with the optics.
Right?
But there's got to be something underlying this.
Why did they take this off?
This is so basic, and it takes you 30 or 45 minutes.
Why would you not do that to try to protect a child?
And you're right, you know, because you covered it.
There's so many people who put their hands up right there.
You got me.
You got me.
Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
Well, the DHS press release, May 31st, announcing the end of rapid DNA testing, was two sentences.
And so there's no explanation whatsoever.
That has probably got to be one of the most terrible, egregious things that I've ever seen the Biden administration do.
And that's saying a lot down on that border.
But yes, you're absolutely right.
The cartels are smarter than most American immigration lawyers when it comes to understanding our policies and rules and laws and regulations.
It's their business to understand it and to convey that to the immigrants, the illegal aliens that they're bringing across as a way to get more business, to keep it going, right?
It's business continuity to understand what that is.
And so, yeah, they were absolutely taking advantage of every loophole that they could, and they still are now, especially now.
They don't even have to worry about DNA testing at the border now.
They're telling everybody about it.
steve bannon
By the way, they're signaling to the cartels you can get through.
Another thing, tell me this, with all the technology we have and you can track everybody everywhere in the world, you've got satellites all over the place, how can DHS, how can they lose, according to the whistleblower, 85,000
of these children come across and how can they we have whistleblowers coming forward saying they're open brothels in the greater houston area that people know about and they don't even know who these people are that pick them up as long as the little child has a has something in their pocket with a phone number how tell me how that happens benjamin we spend 6.8 trillion dollars right get into all the madness of our deficits five billion dollars I'll get to that in a second.
Talk to me about, how could that happen?
How can we not know?
It's bad enough they're coming to the country, but if they come to the country, how can we not protect these children that are coming in here, brother?
todd bensman
It's really not that complicated, how they lost them.
The administration is, again, on the front end, just wants to move these unaccompanied minors through.
They want to move the children through so that there's not a big stack up at the border.
And in doing that, they're very quick on the draw about putting them with foster families and foster caregivers.
And then on the back end, they never check back with the foster families to do a home visit, to do checks, to make sure that they were who they said they were, to vet these foster families.
And so the kids move through these foster Family situations, and then they move on to other situations, and nobody ever knew.
Nobody ever knows.
They don't track it.
Whether the foster families, you know, abuse them, which is probably the case a lot of times, whether they put them to forced labor, to sex slavery, to whatever, or the kids, they just beat them.
They beat them until the kids ran away, or joined, you know, The homeless population or something like that, the DHS didn't care enough in their system, in their procedures, to track them and make sure that they were taken care of, and that's how they got lost.
steve bannon
On your textiles, Todd, how do people get to your site?
How do they get to your writings?
There's an article on Sound of Freedom today you've got to get.
todd bensman
Right.
The Sound of Freedom piece is at cis.org, front and center on the blog section.
You can look it up under Me Too.
Todd Bensman.
I'm on Twitter, BensmanTodd, and Getter, and TruthSocial.
And ToddBensman.com.
My book is overrun, all about this border, all about the kids, too.
There's a lot of chapters in there that talk about the endangerment of children due to this border.
steve bannon
Unbelievable.
Todd Bensman, thank you so much.
Honored to have you on here.
todd bensman
Thanks for having me.
steve bannon
Okay.
We're going to talk about ECA.
$5 billion a day we're borrowing.
You're borrowing because of the deficits.
The deficit the first nine months of the fiscal year was $1.5 trillion.
As I told you it was going to be, it's going to be over $2 trillion.
$5 billion a day in perpetuity.
And you know what you're paying for?
You're paying for the trafficking of children.
Does that make you feel good?
That you're paying for that?
That you're paying for that?
That their torment is being underwritten by the taxpayers of this country?
The hard-working folks?
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The decent people in this nation?
Okay.
steve bannon
In a celebration of American music, and of course a lot of our music is derived from other sources, the girl, this is an old cavalry.
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We're going to finish with this.
steve bannon
We've got another hour coming up.
Dr. Naomi Wolf is going to join us.
Dr. Peter Navarro.
Dave Brat is going to join us.
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We've got a lot of economics, capital markets.
steve bannon
And Naomi's got...
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A couple of stories that are going to blow your head off.
steve bannon
Short commercial break.
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