Aug. 3, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | |
| You have to wonder if the Justice Department is considering whether there is some political solution to this criminal problem, whether part of the issue here is not just that Trump has committed crimes, but that Trump has committed crimes and plans on being back in the White House. | ||
| Do they consider, as part of a potential plea offer, something that would prescribe him, proscribe him from running for office again? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I would imagine, if anything like that happened, that it would have to come from the defense side of the negotiation, that the Trump team would say, oh, by the way, and with this, we will also, you know, drop out of the race for president. | |
| Otherwise, it would put the Justice Department in this position. | ||
| That Donald Trump claims they're in. | ||
| He claims they're trying to stop him, simply trying to stop him from becoming president again. | ||
| And that's the only reason they're doing this. | ||
| So my guess, given those dynamics and the change, I think, in the way the Justice Department sees this in those 50 years since Spiro Agnew, It just seems unlikely that they would reach into the political zone of the solution. | ||
| Our politics does have to find a solution to this, but it might have to find that solution separate and apart from the criminal process. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Chris Krebs sort of walked into a split rail between both Russia and then saying the election was otherwise secure. | ||
| But all of this and this meeting is particularly important in terms of the reckoning that the country needs to have with Trump's election denial charges. | ||
| Because the 30 percent of the country not believing in the credibility of our elections is not a sustainable number. | ||
| Bringing Donald Trump to account to actually prove the underlying case that he claimed was true would be a real service to the country. | ||
| No longer the terrorist who's gonna fly an airplane into some building. | ||
| It is within our country, people, extremists, white supremacists, and others who would resort to violence to alter an election or take other kinds of violent action. | ||
| So this trial is going to be a real test of our democracy. | ||
| And in a world where democracy is increasingly under threat, it will be a real opportunity for the United States of America to show that no one is above the law. | ||
| He's entitled to his rights just like any criminal defendant. | ||
| He's presumed innocent until proven guilty, but the criminal justice system has to be allowed to work without interference. | ||
| We need to prevent interference and this kind of violent extremism. | ||
| We're very restrained and rational and not give a number statement, obviously, but the facts that you're describing are shocking. | ||
| That was a mistake. | ||
| The reason why, I've had a lot of people ask me, you know, why did you write this book? | ||
| I try to do what I can to get the truth out. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, they didn't want me to testify in, uh, in February, on February 23rd at the Senate hearing. | ||
| They don't want people still currently in positions. | ||
| I actually had to go in and talk to a friend of mine on one of the oversight committees to say, I will come there in person. | ||
| I want to be there. | ||
| I want to testify. | ||
| So I'm glad you think I'm reserved. | ||
| I'm, you know, to be honest with you, I'm a little pissed off. | ||
| Um, because If people were reporting the intelligence correctly, if I was allowed to do my job as the chief, I got a significant experience, but if I was allowed to do my job as the chief, we wouldn't be here today. | ||
| This didn't happen. | ||
| Then see how you're out there, you're land-based and in public. | ||
| And it's all, you know, everything appears to be a cover-up. | ||
| Like I said, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but when you look at the information intelligence that it had, military had, it's all watered down. | ||
| I'm not getting intelligence. | ||
| I'm denied support of the National Guard in advance. | ||
| I'm denied National Guard while we're under attack for 71 minutes. | ||
| You're in a fight? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A fight for a couple of minutes wears you out. | ||
| One minute. | ||
| I was going to say, 60 seconds, three minutes. | ||
| Let me tell you, it wears you out. | ||
| My officers were fighting for 80 minutes before the protesters ever brought a person with them. | ||
| Wait, can I say, so you describe this as a failure to get the intelligence to the people who needed it, but it sounds like, worse than, it sounds like they were hiding the intelligence. | ||
| And that's what I'm getting at. | ||
| Could there possibly be people that actually expected something to happen and kind of wanted something to happen? | ||
| It's not a far stretch to begin with. | ||
| I don't know what the other explanation is. | ||
| You know, it's sad when you start putting everything together and thinking about the way this played out. | ||
| It gets very concerning. | ||
| What was their end goal? | ||
| You look at what's happening, was that their end goal? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's no question that what happened on January 6th has really helped the Democratic Party. | ||
| It's bravely politicized the U.S. | ||
| military and the intelligence agencies and the FBI. | ||
| And those are all, I think, bad for America and violations of the Constitution, but they're all good for the Democratic Party. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| That's what happened. | ||
| Absolutely, and I write about that because as a cop of 30 years, I'm a rule of law type of guy. | ||
| There's a reason that Lady Justice is depicted with a blindfold. | ||
| As soon as you take that blindfold off, the fairness of our legal system goes out the window, and that is exactly what has happened. | ||
| They've stripped that blindfold away from Lady Justice, and it's not perceived as being fair anymore. | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| It is Thursday, 3 August, the Urban Alert 2023. | ||
| There is a method to our madness in that cold open on this day of the arraignment of President Trump in Washington, D.C. | ||
| The logic, you see, I want to make sure that we continue to break this down and make sure that this is framed properly. | ||
| You see two of the quiet parts out loud there at the beginning with Rachel Maddow, that was from a week or so ago. | ||
| I think it was in the Target letters first up, or it might have even been the arraignment in Miami, where she talks about right out there that this is all about Trump running again and, you know, a political solution. | ||
| We've got to get a political solution to this. | ||
| Then you have Ginsburg, who is part of the administrative and deep state on the Republican side that's a homeland security guy, tell Aaron Burnett we need a reckoning. | ||
| We need, because 30% of the American people, and if Denver can pull up, the CNN has an incredible Poll out today. | ||
| They've also got a big poll on, on economics and how Biden's doing, which is terrible. | ||
| Uh, where they say 69% of Republicans do not believe, uh, Joe Biden is legitimately elected. | ||
| I happen to think that number's low. | ||
| And also, uh, we put this up, I think in the middle of the night, put it up a couple of hours ago on Getter and it had the wrong headline on it. | ||
| So this is their story. | ||
| It's not legit 69%, not, not legitimately elected. | ||
| And then you have Blumenthal. | ||
| This guy's a United States Senator. | ||
| Remember, he was the guy last week of the Live Golf. | ||
| He was all up about the golf, you know, the PGA and the other golf associations partnering with the Saudis. | ||
| Which is bad enough, but he just equated the deplorables. | ||
| I mean, he equated the deplorables and MAGA. | ||
| To the 9-11 terrorists. | ||
| He said, well, they're extremists, right? | ||
| But they're domestic terrorists and white nationalists, but they're just the same as the guys that flew it into the building. | ||
| This is the mentality that you're thinking about, that we're opposing. | ||
| Today in this arraignment, I've asked Rahim to join us for the top and to get us going here and a couple reasons. | ||
| Number one, Rahim has been able to get access to, quite frankly, explosive. | ||
| Because part of the things I'm going to go into is how the Murdochs and Fox News are absolutely bound and determined to destroy Donald Trump and to destroy this populist movement. | ||
| And they are working nonstop, 24-7, to make sure that happens. | ||
| Rahim, this is explosive. | ||
| I actually thought I saw a part of this on Fox, but now that I saw that, and for the audio, Rahim, I want you to go through how you got this and why the audio is not perfect. | ||
| But this was Tucker Carlson. | ||
| I'll let you explain, but this was never shown at Fox. | ||
| In fact, I think Tucker, as people have told you, that this was suppressed. | ||
| This was never played while Tucker was there. | ||
| Yeah, that's right, Steve. | ||
| Tucker Carlson himself gave an interview to comedian turned podcaster Russell Brand a couple of weeks ago where he sort of started to intimate what was said in this interview that he did at Fox with the former Capitol Hill police chief that you see there, Stephen Sund. | ||
| And it's funny because Stephen Sund was one of the first people that we honed in on, I think it was January the 10th, Uh, 2021, uh, when all of that was still going on, when people were still trying to figure out what the heck happened that day and son kind of turned around at the time and said, well, Hey, look, you know, I, how was I supposed to know what was going on here? | ||
| Because nobody wanted to keep me in the loop the entire time. | ||
| And over the last couple of years, he has, I guess, put this book together that he was talking to Tucker about, but it's the interview there that you saw there. | ||
| And that was by the way, just the first part of the interview that we'll be releasing over the next couple of days. | ||
| Where he starts talking about the cover-up. | ||
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Now, you know, for those out there who are kind of, you know, will listen to that and hear like... Whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on, Rahim, hang on, slow down, slow down. | |
| I just want to make sure I understand this and therefore our audience or our audience may be ahead of me on this. | ||
| This was an interview Tucker Carlson did, and it looks like it's a lot of the stuff he would do on that Fox Nation and then play parts of it up on a show. | ||
| He did this when he was at Fox and an employee of Fox, correct? | ||
| And he said on Russell Brand that this was never allowed to air before they terminated it, right? | ||
| I just don't think I got the fact right. | ||
| Now, how did, how did, how did, you know, Far be it from me, I'm a huge National Pulse fan. | ||
| We do exclusive content for you guys. | ||
| We're a huge supporter of yours. | ||
| You're not only my editor over at Breitbart that gave a great assist with Brexit, but you were the co-host originally of Impeachment. | ||
| Now, you know, National Pulse is kind of the TMZ of the right, far be it from me to say you're Harvey Levin. | ||
| But how did you come in possession of this? | ||
| Is this Tucker Carlson's intellectual property? | ||
| Is this Rupert Murdoch's intellectual property? | ||
| And why are we having the benefit of showing this up on War Room this morning, sir? | ||
| Well, the way the National Pulse came across this is good old-fashioned. | ||
| working sources and getting the story. | ||
| This has nothing to do with Tucker. | ||
| I haven't spoken to Tucker or anyone on Tucker's team. | ||
| I haven't conversed with him about it. | ||
| And in fact, I'm very sorry if this somehow hurts him with his continued case against Fox. | ||
| But the truth needs to be told, and the truth needs to be heard. | ||
| And if it takes us doing, you know, the heavy lift of actually getting to where this is and getting it out there, and in a fair use sense, right? | ||
| I'm not putting the whole interview up and saying, oh, hey, Fox, you know, screw you and your intellectual property. | ||
| I'm saying, you know, this is information that the public needs to hear, and we will release parts of it that we believe are inherently newsworthy. | ||
| I think it's in Fox's interest for this to come out. | ||
| Are you telling me what we've heard? | ||
| Are you telling me from what we've heard and what we know that there are factions inside of Fox News that don't agree with the Murdochs, what the Murdochs are trying to do to the country and what the Murdochs are trying to do to the populist movement and therefore people inside of Fox leaked this or got this into the hands of the ever hard-working National Pulse team? | ||
| Well, Steve, you might say that, you know, I couldn't possibly comment. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I tell you what, I want to go to commercial break, because this is so explosive. | ||
| And I want to make sure that... I want you to walk through, particularly where people, when we come back, what was said. | ||
| Because this frames... This is why... This is a day of jubilation for us. | ||
| We're going to get an opportunity, ladies and gentlemen, to adjudicate the 2020 election and all the fraud and all the stealing and all the illegitimacy of the Biden regime. | ||
| And also the second part of it, the Fed's erection. | ||
| We're going to make the deep state have to stand and deliver in a federal courthouse, right? | ||
| And defend what they did, which is indefensible. | ||
| Rahim Ghassan on the other side with an explosive interview between Tucker Carlson and the Chief of the Capitol Hill Police. | ||
| Never seen before. | ||
| next in the world okay i may try get we're gonna get benny johnson up here in a minute We're going to get Mike Davis up here. | ||
| Mike Davis got up on Twitter about the immediate movement we need to put to the appropriations bill to cut off all money to DOJ and make Biden shut down the government on October 1st, if need be, before we give one penny, one penny to continue this persecution of President Trump and others in this, in this fiasco coming to DOJ. | ||
| So my point is we're on offense. | ||
| We're on offense and I don't hear any defense, I don't hear any whining, no tears, because the donors and the Murdochs are making a move on us right now. | ||
| Just understand that. | ||
| Making a move on us. | ||
| And so we have to be on offense of how we're gonna... We welcome what Jack Smith did. | ||
| We welcome it. | ||
| We finally have a time to adjudicate it. | ||
| And the second part of this, which we keep talking about, is that, remember, when I was running around about this 2022 midterm, what I kept saying is we need to have a real J6 committee. | ||
| And when I say J6 committee, because Jack Smith just did a photocopy of what they came up with, a real J6 committee. | ||
| But it's where the Democrats get a ranking member and where the Democrats get a council and they get all the information. | ||
| And then on national TV, you can have a dramatic You know, cross-examination. | ||
| And so, the whole nation would at least buy into watching it. | ||
| It wouldn't cut out one side or the other. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| And J6, on the day of, he never did anything about it, in the lead-up to it, in the Fed's erection part of it. | ||
| You know, bits and pieces. | ||
| Revolver and National Pulse were here, but people have come out with it. | ||
| So this gives us a chance. | ||
| This is providential. | ||
| It gives us a chance in front of the whole world, in a federal courthouse with, quite frankly, an anti-Trump judge, To be able to put before the nation, to put before the nation as evidence, not, not, not as evidence, exactly what went on on the run up to J6 and about the stolen 2020 election. | ||
| And I will tell you right now, mark my words, they're going to offload Joe Biden. | ||
| They got the Gavin Newsom train already going or get to the Murdoch's. | ||
| They have a national debate between DeSantis. | ||
| The Murdoch's have given for the first time in history. | ||
| Two governors, a national platform, to pretend as president to have a debate in November, a year from the actual election itself. | ||
| But we're going on offense. | ||
| This is not a defensive play, this is offense, offense, offense, hammered down every second of every day. | ||
| Rahim, this is quite frankly explosive, and I know the audio is bad because The way you had to get it, etc. | ||
| And Tucker, I know, has talked about a little bit of Russell Brand, but really hasn't had a chance to come out and totally go through it. | ||
| So just tell our audience who this guy is, why is he important, what he just said, and why is it so important that the Murdochs decided not to play this? | ||
| Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Yeah, thanks Steve. | ||
| Well, the audience will know that, you know, the National Pulse is a small team but a very effective team, right? | ||
| That's something, when we do some investigative work, we put our shoulder to the wheel in a massive way. | ||
| And this is no different. | ||
| Stephen Sund is a 30-year-long law enforcement officer who has served as the Capitol Hill police chief since, I think, 2019. | ||
| He was, in the run-up to January 6th, completely, in his own words, cut out. | ||
| of the intelligence gathering and the planning of the policing on Capitol Hill that day. | ||
| He specifically in this interview. | ||
| He points the finger at Nancy Pelosi, he specifically points the finger at Milley, he specifically says that him and his deputies were just not given the information that they needed to secure the Capitol building that day. | ||
| Now listen, that's one part of it and one thing, and you can think about incompetence, and you can think about all sorts of other surprise factors that might have gone into that, but then he says something very interesting, and you heard it there in the clip we played in the last segment, and I encourage everybody to go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room. | ||
| Check out this story for yourself. | ||
| And watch as we release more and more and more over the course of the day. | ||
| If you scroll down there on the site, I see it's up on the screen right now for the video audience. | ||
| If people scroll down there on the site, you can see how many stories we put up a day and how many unique stories we put up a day. | ||
| And I really want the audience to recognize something here, that we are people-funded, okay? | ||
| There's no adverts on the website. | ||
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This is why we're such a big, yeah. | |
| Go ahead, go ahead. | ||
| But to do something like this takes a lot of resources. | ||
| You know, you have to get the information, you have to verify the information, you have to transcribe the information, you have to cut the clips. | ||
| This takes a big effort and that's why I need everybody to go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash warren to get behind us in releasing information like this. | ||
| Stephen Sund is on the record now saying that there was a cover-up surrounding January the 6th and the planning around January the 6th. | ||
| That is the former Capitol Hill police chief in his own words and Fox tried to hide it. | ||
| I want everybody to go to National Pulse right now and see that entire clip. | ||
| There's more. | ||
| Rahim, just put a pin in it for one second, because we're going to come back. | ||
| You've got more explosive footage about this, and this is going to be a major part of the trial. | ||
| We've always wanted this. | ||
| This is providential, but hang on for a second, Rahim, because I want to go back through that in Sund and back through the Fed's direction and all that. | ||
| I want to bring in Benny Johnson. | ||
| I really appreciate Benny changing his schedule up. | ||
| Benny, you put up, and if Denver could please help me here and put up, Benny, you wrote a thing on Twitter called The Ghost in the Machine. | ||
| It is so powerful, and I want you to either read it or just walk us through the entire thing that was happening on the screen and tell us what is the meaning of this, because there cannot be a better preamble to set up the day than what Benny Johnson wrote and put up last night. | ||
| Can you walk us through it, sir? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| What an honor. | ||
| So I've spent not an enormous amount of time in Washington, D.C., but 15 years of my professional life. | ||
| I've worked on Capitol Hill as a reporter. | ||
| I've asked questions at the White House press briefing. | ||
| I've seen the inside of many embassies and been invited to the parties and sort of understood how the apparatchiks work inside of Washington. | ||
| And I think that people are really missing a major theme as to what is truly happening in our country today. | ||
| And that theme is the ghost in the machine. | ||
| The ghost in the machine is what's actually happening in the indictment today and with the overlooking of Joe Biden's crimes. | ||
| Because it doesn't really matter what happens with Donald Trump. | ||
| Trump isn't actually the point here. | ||
| They're not after Trump necessarily. | ||
| And by they, I mean the super state. | ||
| By they, I mean the security state. | ||
| The ghost in the machine is the apparatchiks for our government who have spent The better part of 70 years building an apparatus in order to choose who is allowed to run for president, in order to choose who is allowed to become president, in order to choose who is allowed to remain president. | ||
| Please see RFK and please see Nixon. | ||
| These people are the ones who truly run Washington DC, and they're the ones who have been in control for the last 70 years. | ||
| So the indictment today is far less about Trump. | ||
| And the overlooking of crimes, impeachable crimes, by the Biden regime really has nothing to do with the power of Joe Biden. | ||
| Don't kid yourself. | ||
| Joe Biden isn't powerful. | ||
| Joe Biden's barely alive. | ||
| And these people wouldn't shed a single tear if Joe Biden dropped dead tomorrow. | ||
| These people are utilizing the organs of government right now in a hard coup against you, the American people, because of one specific thing that happened. | ||
| On a date in November in 2016, you defied them. | ||
| They told you to vote for Hillary Clinton. | ||
| They rigged the election against Donald Trump. | ||
| They rigged the election in favor of their preferred deep state candidate. | ||
| And in spite of every poll showing that Donald Trump had 0% chance of winning, you said F you to these individuals, to the machine, the ghosts inside of the machine. | ||
| And that broke them because these individuals operate off of the assumption of power and the projection of power. | ||
| And what that told the entire world is that these people are not actually powerful, that these individuals are actually fraudulent. | ||
| And they couldn't even control what was happening in their own country. | ||
| And now Donald Trump's in charge. | ||
| And they were guaranteed a thousand years of leftist policymaking after Barack Obama. | ||
| And so these individuals had a psychotic break. | ||
| The ghost in the machine had a psychotic break. | ||
| And they decided that vengeance would be theirs. | ||
| And how was vengeance achieved? | ||
| By saying, if we can't run the country, then no one will. | ||
| We will burn this place to the ground. | ||
| Norms be damned, laws be damned, rules be damned. | ||
| Look at this old predator in the White House. | ||
| This guy is so corrupt and crooked. | ||
| This man could be indicted in every court in the land, but he's protected by us because we say so. | ||
| The fact that he's even in office today is because we forced it. | ||
| We made it happen. | ||
| This is now an attack on Donald Trump. | ||
| Look at this man. | ||
| He's innocent. | ||
| This is an innocent man, and he is going to face a thousand years in prison. | ||
| Because we are powerful. | ||
| We are justice. | ||
| We are truth itself. | ||
| They're going after Donald Trump for free speech. | ||
| And so this is the machine flexing on the American people and saying, how dare you? | ||
| How dare you defy us? | ||
| How dare you think that you're in charge? | ||
| If you cross us, we will destroy you. | ||
| We will burn this place to ashes before giving up power. | ||
| And this is the nature of these individuals. | ||
| They're godless. | ||
| Benny, we talk about the administrative state a lot, and we talk about this kind of rogue element, the deep state or the protouring guard. | ||
| When you say they, we've got a minute, we'd like to hold you through break. | ||
| Rahim's going to stick with us. | ||
| When you say they, who do you mean? | ||
| The national security state is made up of a constellation of forever bureaucrats in Washington. | ||
| They have mansions in McLean. | ||
| They have lived and absorbed the power centers like fossilized barnacles their entire lives. | ||
| Nobody crosses them because they have so many friends stacked in so many layers of dominoes throughout every single federal organization. | ||
| And then they, those individuals can of course turn on you like an antibody reaction. | ||
| If you come in and you come to power in Washington DC without their blessing, it's an antibody reaction. | ||
| That's what you've seen for the last four years of Donald Trump. | ||
| And of course the enemy truly is the American people, not Donald Trump. | ||
| Benny, Benny, can you hang on for one second? | ||
| I just want to hold you to the break. | ||
| Raheem Kassam's with us. | ||
| I want to play one clip from Senator Blumenthal and get your response when we come back. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We've got Benny Johnson. | ||
| We have Raheem Kassam. | ||
| Raheem Kassam of National Pulse, the publisher, founder of National Pulse, and quite frankly, absolutely an extraordinary breaking story today from Tucker Carlson's footage of this explosive interview with the former head of Capitol Hill Police. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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We're taking down the CCP! | |
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong! | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone! | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
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| We will fight till they're all gone! | ||
| ...longer the terrorist who's going to fly an airplane into some building. | ||
| It is, within our country, people, extremists, white supremacists, and others who would resort to violence to alter an election or take other kinds of violent action. | ||
| So this trial is going to be a real test of our democracy. | ||
| And in a world where democracy is increasingly under threat, It will be a real opportunity for the United States of America to show that no one is above the law. | ||
| He's entitled to his rights just like any criminal defendant. | ||
| He's presumed innocent until proven guilty. | ||
| But the criminal justice system has to be allowed to work without interference. | ||
| We need to prevent interference and this kind of violent extremism. | ||
| We're going to return to Rahim Ghassan, the founder, publisher, and editor over at the National Pulse, in a second, on this explosive footage he has that could not highlight better this construct of the ghost in the machine. | ||
| Exactly who makes decisions and who really runs things with this explosive interview with the Chief of the Capitol Hill Police. | ||
| Before I let you go, Benny, and by the way, extraordinary, we'll be looking for more on this, but Blumenthal right there equated you and others, in War Room included, in our audience, with the 9-11 terrorists that flew planes into the towers and what killed 2,900 American citizens. | ||
| and what killed 2,900 American citizens. Your thoughts? | ||
| So first off that was an act of war and I don't know what Dick Blumenthal, DraftDodger, Donning, Dick would know about acts of war. | ||
| This man is a proven coward and has lied about his supposed service in Vietnam, so maybe you should sit this one out, Dick. | ||
| But also, I believe that this is a tried-and-true tactic of the ghosts inside of the machine. | ||
| Just accuse everyone who you do not like as terrorists. | ||
| They call MLK a terrorist. | ||
| Just a reminder that they sent suicide letters to MLK. | ||
| The FBI did. | ||
| J. Edgar Hoover's FBI did this regularly. | ||
| They said that American citizens were terrorists, enemies of the state. | ||
| Now, that was always a moving target, whether it was a civil rights or a feminist movement, or whether it was the unionized organizers back in the 1920s and 30s that J. Edgar Hoover cut his teeth on. | ||
| But J. Edgar Hoover always saw The American people as the enemy. | ||
| And this group of individuals see us as the enemy. | ||
| And do they, do they, are they ashamed about that legacy? | ||
| No! | ||
| They put J. Edgar Hoover's name on the side of their building in downtown Washington, D.C. | ||
| in letters that are three feet tall, Steve. | ||
| They love that legacy. | ||
| They embrace that legacy and they continue it. | ||
| Today, the question for the American people is, how do you fight a ghost? | ||
| Benny, how do people get this incredible tweet you've got up, and how do they get to your other content? | ||
| Yeah, you can find us on Benny, at Benny Johnson, on all platforms, Rumble, YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram, Twitter, as well. | ||
| We do a lot of great work on Twitter. | ||
| We're optimistic about the way that platform is trending, but also on The Benny Show is our podcast, and we stream live every single day, starting at 11 a.m. | ||
| Benny, thank you so much. | ||
| Honor to have you on here. | ||
| God bless you, Steve. | ||
| Rahim, thanks brother. | ||
| Rahim, before we go into more detail about this explosive footage that you have found that was not shown by Fox News, in fact, let me be more brutally frank, it was suppressed by the Murdochs. | ||
| How does that tie back into Benny's, this concept of the ghost in the machine and Blumenthal's comments about, we're extremists, even worse than domestic terrorists. | ||
| We're extremists like the terrorists that flew the planes into the Twin Towers. | ||
| That's a very wide-ranging question, and it's one that brings up actually a lot of emotions, because as somebody who left Islam in the aftermath of 9-11, I won't take lectures from Blumenthal, who just a few years ago was standing inside a mosque in Connecticut, you know, professing to be the | ||
| lobbyists for all Muslims in the United States, and peddling this ridiculous idea that there is some kind of rampant Islamophobia present in the United States at the moment. | ||
| And this is what they do, these people. | ||
| They set groups of people against each other, divide and conquer, and it goes very much to the heart of what Benny was talking about. | ||
| And it manifests itself quite clearly in the Stephen Sund interview with Tucker Carlson as well, with what happened in January 6 also, because Sun says, in the first sort of 10 minutes of the interview, where they're laying the groundwork and the framework for the conversation writ large, he says, look, everything I do involves political leadership. | ||
| You know, the Capitol Hill police It's not an independent police force that just happens to patrol, you know, around one of the most important buildings in America, if not the world. | ||
| It is a specifically created force that caters to the politicians and for the politicians and answers to the Speaker of the House. | ||
| And whether that's through the Sergeant at Arms or directly, as he says, speaking three times to Nancy Pelosi on the run up to January the 6th. | ||
| By the way, you'll recall uh... the jet that that nancy pelosi as she said she had no recollection of speaking to steven son at all on the run-up and some goes out there in the top cost and it uses what the heck you talking about twenty three times in twenty four hours uh... you know the run-up to that but this again goes right back to the hall of of of the ghost in the machine Sunders is the chief in name only. | ||
| You know, he's the chief on his business card, he's the chief on a piece of paper, on a letterhead. | ||
| He may have it in his email signature, but really the decisions that were taken on that day, as he says in the interview with Tucker, were somehow taken above the head of the chief of police on Capitol Hill. | ||
| Not somebody who was an acting or new chief of police, this is somebody who had been in situ for a while, MPD police officer for 20 years. | ||
| This isn't somebody who can sort of turn around and say, well, look, we had to go with somebody more experienced given the given the nature of the day. | ||
| No, this was as experienced as you get as a police officer. | ||
| And they went around him. | ||
| They told him No, you may not listen to our intelligence. | ||
| We're not going to brief you in advance. | ||
| And by the way, no, you may not have any National Guard. | ||
| They told him no National Guard. | ||
| Then they told him is when the fights were breaking out. | ||
| On Capitol Hill, between protesters and the Capitol Hill cops, for 71 minutes, he did not get any support up there. | ||
| And he says, in his words, that there is a cover-up, quote, cover-up surrounding all of those details. | ||
| He says in the clip that we have up on the National Pulse right now that there may even be, you know, it is not Outrageous or outlandish or absurd to consider that the events that transpired that day are exactly the events that they wanted to have transpire that day. | ||
| Again, not my words. | ||
| The words of the former Capitol Hill police chief. | ||
| And if you can find me a better source on Capitol Hill on the day than that, I'm all ears. | ||
| Okay, just rewind. | ||
| I want to also go back to some of your previous reporting, because you've been on this from the beginning. | ||
| I remember how the New York Times would then agree with your reporting but bury it down in the 20th paragraph. | ||
| Just hit rewind for a second on cover-up and what they wanted. | ||
| Just give me your last minute again, slowly, so I can comprehend it. | ||
| Yeah, look, and just to go back to that point, I think a lot of people, you know, wouldn't have even known the National Pulse back a few years ago. | ||
| We were the first news outlet in the world to put together the timeline of events on January the 6th and say, hey, you know, those people at the Capitol building couldn't have been there after Trump's speech. | ||
| Trump couldn't have radicalized them. | ||
| Remember, that was the line originally. | ||
| They heard the speech, they got all G'd up, went down and started smashing things apart. | ||
| No, it didn't work. | ||
| It couldn't work. | ||
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You couldn't get from the Ellipse to the Hill. | |
| You know, you had to rewind time. | ||
| It had to have been Marty McFly and Back to the Future, right? | ||
| Then, you know, we were one of the first outlets to bust apart AOC's big lie about when she said that, you know, she thought the cops were going to rape her in the Capitol Hill toilets. | ||
| And it turns out that she was in one of the office buildings adjacent It was nowhere near the action. | ||
| You know, we were the first news outlet about discussing January 6th to bust open the lies surrounding Officer Brian Sicknick and the idea that he was bludgeoned to death on the steps of the Capitol. | ||
| No, we were the first ones to say, actually, the coroner says he had a stroke. | ||
| Suddenly everybody had to change their reporting on that. | ||
| So yeah, we have been on this for a long time and we will remain on this for a long time. | ||
| Stephen Son, the Capitol Hill police chief, says in his own words that they would not give him the intelligence he needed to properly staff the Capitol for the events of that day, and now we know. | ||
| You know, you see the bike racks and all of that stuff. | ||
| Well, if you had the intel, why were you just using bike racks? | ||
| If you had the intel, why didn't you have National Guard deployed outside there? | ||
| You know, all of that sort of thing. | ||
| And he alleges, in his words, That as a result of all of those things, as a result of all of those conversations, of all the strategy that went in behind this, all of the conversations that he was not privy to, for whatever reason, that there is and has and always will be a level of cover-up, his words, cover-up, regarding what happened on January 6th that day. | ||
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By the way, much more to come. | |
| I want to get to that in a second. | ||
| I want to hold that for the listeners, because I want them to absorb this and the power of it. | ||
| Here's what I don't understand. | ||
| As a matter of national policy, as a matter of, you know, news organizations are supposed to put forward news. | ||
| Do you agree, whatever side of the political spectrum you're on, Tucker Carlson's interview with the head of the Capitol Hill Police at the time, Is news. | ||
| Would be news, correct? | ||
| I don't do anything but the news. | ||
| We wouldn't publish this if it wasn't the news. | ||
| This is the news. | ||
| Especially when you get the indictment. | ||
| Especially when you see yesterday that Donald Trump's lawyers have even tried to subpoena for this information. | ||
| This is the news. | ||
| This goes to the heart of everything we're talking about. | ||
| Not just what happened in 2020 and 2021. | ||
| And what's happened since, you know, the empowerment of the deep state, the militarization, the politicization of all of that, what Blumenthal talks about there is your Al-Qaeda, I'm Al-Qaeda, all of that stuff, and they're going to treat us like foreign combatants, you know, here on the soil of the United States, right? | ||
| But this also goes to next year. | ||
| It goes right to the heart of what we can expect over the next year and what happens in November of next year. | ||
| And I also want to, on a very specific and kind of tactical level, Jack Smith opens up his talking indictment, but his press conference the other day, he absolutely goes to the violence and everything. | ||
| It's Jack Smith. | ||
| It's not Wharram. | ||
| It's not Rahim. | ||
| It's not Tucker. | ||
| It's Jack Smith. | ||
| He lays the predicate down of a violent, I don't know, insurrection or whatever you say. | ||
| He opens his opening statement. | ||
| He lays the predicate. | ||
| So therefore, understanding the importance of this, Brother Kassam, why would the Murdochs go out of their way to suppress this vital information that the nation has to hear and see? | ||
| Well, two major reasons jump to mind. | ||
| The first motivator for the Murdoch's is always money. | ||
| They think, and I'm sure their lawyers may have told them, it might cost them money. | ||
| Somebody might sue. | ||
| Somebody might get upset. | ||
| The government might crack down on them. | ||
| You won't get as much kid-love behavior out of the Biden regime if you do something like this. | ||
| There are all sorts of implications to that, especially when you consider that Congress is still in the hands of the Democrats. | ||
| And by that, what I mean is most Republicans on Capitol are just Democrats in disguise. | ||
| But the other part of it, of course, is the narrative. | ||
| Fox News' narrative now, controlled by Paul Ryan and others up there at Fox, is the destruction of Donald Trump. | ||
| That is their primary goal. | ||
| CNN had the coronavirus ticker up in every single death, in every single number. | ||
| Well, Fox News has that, but for the attempted, you know, fratricide of the MAGA movement, that is their editorial position inside that building on Fifth Avenue, and they are pursuing it with gusto. | ||
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I'll see you next time. | |
| OK, Rahim, publisher, everybody go to the National Pulse. | ||
| You're going to hang with me for the next segment. | ||
| Where on the National Pulse do they go, brother? | ||
| Yeah, I need everybody to go to TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room. | ||
| Support real news and investigations like this. | ||
| We get no corporate money, no advertiser bucks. | ||
| We are people funded and you are the people. | ||
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TheNationalPulse.com forward slash war room. | |
| Rahima will be with us next. | ||
| And understanding Rahima is still an Englishman. | ||
| Fox headquarters is on 6th Avenue. | ||
| Not Avenue of the Americas, not 5th Avenue, 6th Avenue. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Let's go back to the role of, you said nine out of the eighteen agencies in the so-called intelligence community are military. | |
| The Pentagon supervises their military intel. | ||
| Would they have been gathering, it sounds like they were gathering information about January 6th before it happened? | ||
| Well, again, for Milley and Miller to be that concerned about January 6th in advance. | ||
| They had to be getting the intelligence from somewhere. | ||
| I mean, talk about locking down Washington. | ||
| That's a huge undertaking. | ||
| And again, to never, never notify me. | ||
| But when you begin to sit there and wonder about... So you believe that they were gathering intelligence? | ||
| I mean, they were. | ||
| For them to think that they were getting something... And I'm asking this because there was a very weird moment in the January 6th. | ||
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Committee interviews and they interviewed a man who was caught on camera by a lot of people encouraging law-breaking, encouraging people to run into the Capitol to break the law. | |
| The implication was to commit violence. | ||
| He has never been arrested or charged with anything. | ||
| And that's just very, very strange. | ||
| You know, over a thousand people have been charged, but he has not been. | ||
| And so the committee released a statement saying, we are positive he was not working with law enforcement. | ||
| You have to be an idiot not to assume he's working with somebody. | ||
| Why haven't they arrested him? | ||
| I mean, come on. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So my thought was, well, they didn't mention military intelligence. | ||
| This guy's a veteran. | ||
| Am I being crazy and wondrous? | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| I actually write about that person in the book. | ||
| It raises concern for me, his involvement, and the fact that we haven't learned more. | ||
| Matter of fact, I think the January 6th Committee thanked him for his candor. | ||
| Okay, Raheem Kassam. | ||
| And by the way, the audio is the way the audio is. | ||
| That's not a... | ||
| Issue with our production team here at Denver. | ||
| It's just how it is. | ||
| So it's a little choppy there. | ||
| Are they discussing Ray Epps, Rahim? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it certainly sounds like it. | ||
| There's no other individual, I think, that fits the bill of the discussion that was just had between Tucker Carlson and Steve Sund than Ray Epps. | ||
| Ray Epps, who was seen the night before, January the 6th, urging people to go into the Capitol the next day. | ||
| Ray Epps, who was seen at the Ellipse, guiding people towards the Capitol. | ||
| And then Ray Epps, he was seen At the Capitol attempting to guide people in. | ||
| It's the same Ray Epps who has not been charged, who was thanked, as Stephen's son says there, by the January 6th Committee for his candour in his testimony to them. | ||
| And it's the same Ray Epps who texts his friends and family members saying that he, in his words, quote, orchestrated uh... the entire thing on january six i think this is one of the most critical reasons white fox news uh... and report murdoch especially in all of the establishment uh... surrounding that operation did not want this interview ever ed this this is this is explosive stuff and i'm and you know i'm delighted to to have broken it this morning with you guys on the wall | ||
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| hasn't apps i think in an interviewer said that he's under pressure now or somebody's leak that uh... | ||
| the government's actually looking at potential charges against him And hasn't he either threatened or actually begun the process of suing? | ||
| I think it's Tucker and Fox about calling out on this. | ||
| Is that the facts as they stand now? | ||
| Epps has, I think, given a bunch of interviews saying, no, I'm innocent. | ||
| I've been persecuted. | ||
| And now the government's actually looking at charges. | ||
| And additionally, he's actually suing Fox. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| And of course, if any reasonable person would believe that Ray Epps has his right to his say and has his right to his day in court over this stuff. | ||
| But we've now progressed how many years since that incident where nothing was done about any of this. | ||
| this in fact as Steve Sun says there again I will reiterate he was he was thanked by the January 6th committee for his candor in his testimony he was not brought up on charges they never asked him any follow-up questions to the to the you know plethora of videos out there that showed him you know in his words again orchestrating the events of January the 6th And now his lawyer has come out with a statement, because I think Joe Rogan has actually been talking about this recently. | ||
| And the RAIPS's lawyer's statement says, the fact that people like Joe Rogan continue to propagate the lie that RAIPS participated in a false flag operation to instigate the January 6th riots demonstrates the widespread and lasting harm So you see what's happening there. | ||
| You know, Ray Epps and his Democrat lawyers now want to go after these people for a cash settlement. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| running venue business with his wife and enjoying the ranch he and Robin built. | ||
| Instead, Ray continues to face the destructive consequences of Fox's decision to target him with falsehoods. | ||
| Joe Rogan's comments are the most recent proof of the perpetual damage inflicted by Fox. | ||
| So you see what's happening there. | ||
| You know, Ray Epps and his Democrat lawyers now want to go after these people for a cash settlement. | ||
| That's what's happening. | ||
| That's very obvious. | ||
| But it's silly. | ||
| It's silly on the face of it, because he says, without Fox and Tucker, Ray would be unknown and unassailed. | ||
| Well, Fox and Tucker didn't identify Ray Epps. | ||
| And Ray Epps is the one who decided to go there on January the 6th with his tourniquets, with his... | ||
| you know, his kit that he took with him that day, with the disappearance in the middle of the day, where he says, oh, I caught a ride back to my hotel with some stranger, I don't know who it was, don't ask me any more questions about that. | ||
| I did a long sub stack on his testimony, by the way, a couple of months ago when we went through all of this. | ||
| And by the way, Ray Epps is the one who decided to text his friends saying that he had orchestrated it. | ||
| So for the lawyers to come out and say, oh, Ray Epps' notoriety is down to Fox and Tucker, I don't think that holds up in a courtroom. | ||
| Rahim, I understand you're slammed over National Pulse, particularly putting out more of these videos, but I ask you to stay through the break. | ||
| Because I want to go back to the J6 committee. | ||
| I missed Son's testimony in front of the nation at J6. | ||
| I miss that. | ||
| I miss Chris Miller, the acting Secretary of Defense. | ||
| I miss Chris Miller's and I miss Son's testimony. | ||
| And I just want to make sure that, I'm sure it's there somewhere, and I want to discuss what they said in front of the J6. | ||
| Okay, we haven't had enough time to profile Jimmy Reed, big boss man. | ||
| We'll play the entire version of this in the second hour, but we'll leave it right now with a render. | ||
| Jimmy Reed's Original of Big Boss Man. | ||
| You've probably heard covers of this of other bands, but this is the original. | ||
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Hey boss man, can't you hear me when I'm gone? | |
| Hey boss man, can't you hear me when I'm gone? | ||
| Well you ain't so bad, you just don't last long Bye. | ||
| Got me wakin' for the man. | ||
| Wakin' around the bar. | ||
| I want a little drink of water. |
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