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July 28, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2913: What Actually Is Happening In The Shadows Of Government
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alex jones
16:03
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steve bannon
13:26
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mike lindell
01:54
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rudy giuliani
03:36
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david grusch
00:28
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It is Friday, 28 July, Year of Our Lord 2023.
Lead story on the South China Morning Post front page, which is the New York Times of Hong Kong, In much of free Asia headlined venture capital to China evaporates amid geopolitical hostilities and economic uncertainties.
China focused VC funds down 54% just in one quarter.
That is because of this audience.
This is what we're talking about on Sequoia Capital.
You got to cut them off from American pension fund money and choke down the Chinese Communist Party.
They cannot innovate unless they steal the technology and they have American capital.
And this is now the South China Morning Post concurring with one of the big efforts we have in taking down the CCP.
Alex Jones.
People, this Oppenheimer movie is a massive hit.
People are watching it, you know, going to it, young people, old people.
And it's about what happened in Los Alamos, in top, in secret, to build the atomic bomb.
I would posit, sir, And being a follower of your writings, your show, that today in our weapons labs, and in university research labs, as it showed us during COVID, and in other places, like in mainland China, Ukraine, North Korea, South Korea, that there is far more going on than was even alluded to at these hearings the other day.
Your thoughts?
alex jones
Well, you're absolutely right, Steve, and it's in the mainline literature before COVID was released out of the Wuhan lab, I believe on purpose, which was a new virus, was chimeric, was five viruses with the HIV delivery system, and was very infective and very toxic, but still statistically not very deadly, less than 1% death rate if you got the therapeutics you needed, but they suppressed those.
And the reason I start with that is I remember reading in mainline news articles and then going to the actual studies 15, 20 years ago, there was a big controversy in Australia when the Australian government at a university released the genetic code of a weaponized mousepox that killed 90 plus percent of the mice and they estimated would kill 90 plus percent of humans.
And then they said, why did you put the design of it out so somebody else could then basically weaponize it?
And their argument was, well, we have to know how to study this in case somebody does.
Well, you could say that with mousepox, but it's still a very thin argument.
So when you have COVID-19 that's come out in emails from Peter Daszak and others that they already had the vaccine ready for, already had the sequences ready for a year before they released it, they Created something that would take 50 million years of evolution.
You're not going to have five different viruses from different parts of the world all thrown together and then or some other terrorist group or government is going to make this exact weird zoological chimeric virus that can jump into humans and then magically, oh, the Russians are going to release it or somebody else.
So we've got to have this one in a trillion or even higher, they were saying, virus.
So that's what's so preposterous about the bioweapon labs. And if you remember a year and a half ago the Russians said, and I'm not defending their invasion, we invaded because these bioweapon labs.
The media said, oh, it's a conspiracy theory, you're crazy.
But then people pulled up the Washington Post from two years into Obama's administration.
He was bragging about Bioshield and expanding what George W. had done in these so-called biodefense labs that are really weapons labs. And there was activity going on here in the U.S.
that colleges and level four facilities and the military, the U.S.
military is on record saying, we're not going to touch that.
That's too dangerous.
Just like they rejected Bill Gates and Peter Daszak in Wuhan when they came to them saying, we want to release COVID-19 in these caves to study it on bats.
And they said, that's a biological attack.
That's, that's treason.
We're not going to do that.
So they instead took it to Ukraine.
And then what happened earlier this year?
The U.S.
ambassador to over there that's been involved stirring all this up, she comes out and says to Congress, yes, it's true, Victoria Newland, it's true, we do have these bio-defense labs with level four and more weapons in them.
So basically, COVID-19 is a new virus.
It was meant to scare scientists when they saw it, but it's a dud, or it's like a missile with no payload or explosives in it or warhead in it.
They've got things, from the information I've seen, that will kill at least 90 plus percent of humans that come in contact with Dick Cheney and Rebuilding America's Defense's PNAC document, September 2000, wrote that the U.S.
was developing and others were developing race-specific weapons and that now they can be specifically even subgroups of, say, the Slavs, like the Russians, even down to that basic type, and then not hurt the Poles or others as bad still, you'd get some lateral damage. He said now it makes it a legitimate weapon we should develop. So if Dick Cheney's telling you we should develop a race-specific bioweapon in 2000, you better believe they already had it, and it's come out of South Africa that they were doing it, Israel's developed race-specific
weapons. I mean, basically everybody's doing it, and so the denial that this is going on by the media and by government is just insane, and it really should stop. Like you said, this is to the 10th power.
The Air Force came out about 16 years ago in San Francisco Chronicle at a press conference on purpose just to let the world know.
And they said, yes, we've isolated some antimatter.
We really can't test it here because it might blow up the planet or the whole solar system.
Kind of like in Oppenheimer, when it's a true story, where they say there's less than a one and a half percent chance or half a percent chance that when we detonate this atomic bomb, it'll ignite the atmosphere and kill everybody on Earth.
Then later in Operation Fishbowl, in the late 50s and early 60s, they've detonated hundreds of high powered hydrogen bombs in the upper atmosphere To see if they could light the atmosphere on fire.
They had a higher probability then.
So if you think these mad scientists, in their race to be God, were dangerous in the 50s and 60s, as you said perfectly, Steve Bannon, this is to the 10th power.
And if the Air Force says they've isolated antimatter, you better believe they have.
And again, you can't test that, you can't even mess with that except theoretically, and a lot of top scientists and physicists and quantum mechanics experts have said, CERN is super dangerous.
It can create a black hole, a strangelet.
And again, that creates a super particle that sinks the center of the Earth, the strangelet.
It then begins to gain mass, depending on the equation.
Takes it maybe a year to even start to gain mass, but as soon as it gains any mass, Within a matter of minutes, the Earth is compacted into a black hole, or a tiny mass.
steve bannon
I want your thoughts on, we start today on the Semaphore lead story about Esper at the Aspen Security Conference saying there's a flat-out right now, just like back in the late 40s, a flat-out race on artificial intelligence between the Chinese Communist Party and the United States of America.
He's saying, and to weaponize AI, he's saying it has to be the nation's number one priority to win that race.
Your observations on that and the dangers of that, sir.
alex jones
Well, this is what I call the Atlantean moment.
Plato wrote 2,300 years ago, the father of modern history and philosophy, that it did exist.
There was an island in the Atlantic that had some super technology that blew up and they had flying machines and there was an older civilization destroyed.
I don't know if that's true.
But I know that we have basically built the mythical Atlantis, and we've now are still fallen sinners, more decadent than even our ancestors, given Promethean fire, Promethean power, and the triple threat of AI, biological weapons, and then obviously nuclear weapons, hydrogen bombs, fission fusion, all of this.
We're like Satanic monkeys that have been given godlike power, and I agree, up and coming the number one threat that's clear because they're deploying it.
They haven't fully deployed bioweapons or next level hydrogen bombs that we know of because they're so dangerous.
That's why they quit testing them.
It wasn't just the radiation, but the theoretics idea that if you detonate enough, it might create another chain reaction that starts reacting with the regular elements and then the whole planet blows up.
But with AI, AI is how it's trained, it's what it's given learning off of humans, and it's what its mission is.
And so if out of the gates, it's really all covertly a military operation to dominate all data and defeat the other AI, it's going to break into all other systems, it's very incestuous, and it's going to be programmed for war up front, and once you start the juggernaut rolling, it can't be turned around.
And so in this Race for this Promethean fire, which we already have, we may burn ourselves up.
In fact, I think there's a very good chance of it.
Like the Bible says, if God did not intervene, no flesh would be spared.
And I think whether you're a Christian Catholic, or a Christian, or an Orthodox Catholic, or an Orthodox Jew, I don't care who you are, a Buddhist, whoever you are, a Muslim, if you look around at the world today, world government, cashless societies, social credit scores, it's revelation coming true.
So whether people believe in God or not, It's either real, and God's real, and war and dissonance happening, and that's what I know is true, or really evil people have said, gee, this horribly scary science fiction book written thousands of years ago would be a great plan for us.
So either way, it's being manifest right now, and what you said is totally true.
This is Manhattan Project to the power of the 10th level.
steve bannon
I want to go, you have been accused of being the crazed railhead of all these conspiracy theories.
How did that hearing the other day, how far did that go towards validating the thinking of Alex Jones, sir?
alex jones
Well, I want to be clear.
I've never taken ayahuasca.
I've never seen little aliens and all the things that most people that take it see.
Or DMT.
But most people I know, including people in Delta Force, and NASA, and others, who invited me to go to, actually, a military facility in Sedona, Arizona.
They wanted me to take it this July, but I didn't do it.
But they say it's really helped them, and they do see these entities.
They're having these group events.
They basically see it like they're astronauts.
And they're having group events where they're communicating with these different entities.
And so, I don't believe this.
I've never seen it.
I mean, I haven't seen it yet, so I don't know if it's real.
But there you see congressmen saying, well, what could these aliens be?
And here's the so-called whistleblowers saying, well, interdimensionals who are at a higher dimension invading from the fourth dimension, expressing themselves as like a hologram in the third dimension.
And I said that six years ago on Joe Rogan.
And I said from my sources, going back to the 60s, the CIA and others have people like astronauts on IV drips of DMT staying in this for hours and hours.
They made a movie back in the 80s too where they actually kill people for a few minutes so they can, can I go to the spiritual plane?
That's really what these secret projects have been doing.
This isn't me.
It sounds crazy, but they believe they're mapping These dimensions, and just like you read in the old books, in the grand grimoire and actual black magic books that are 500 to 1,000 years old, 3,000 years old, back to Solomon, whether you believe that or not, they would conjure these demons and take these drugs and do these sacrifices to get the demons to give them knowledge of technology or how to turn lead into gold.
Now that's all, quote, legend.
And again, I'm just saying what the ancients said in every culture, and now What inside the government and the people believe, because my mother had a friend who was a very serious research scientist who worked at a facility in San Francisco, and when I was a little kid she would come to visit at least once a year.
We'd go on road trips.
I'd be in the back of the Volkswagen bug while my mom and her friend, this doctor, were talking.
And I didn't put all this together until later when I was reading some of the literature about it that, oh my gosh, I heard my mom's friend, who was one of the sub-directors of one of these outfits, a psychedelic research facility, doing this.
So there's massive funding, and now the deep state wants to legitimize basically demons, because let me tell you, God and the angels don't intercess unless you want it, and you're not on drugs when you see it.
But if you study the lore, the legends, these demons that work for this off-world fallen creature that's interdimensional, fourth dimension, but operates in like a sub-transmission zone, That they're coming to try to manipulate humans and give people evil ideas of things to do and what to do, that they give us knowledge of technology.
So this sounds really out there, but now you see them saying it in Congress.
You look at Jack Parsons that founded NASA.
He was an Aleister Crowleyite.
He was conjuring demons, he believed.
unidentified
So what I'm saying is we have a devil cult.
alex jones
Exactly.
A devil cult.
Look at the rituals at CERN, where they did the satanic rituals at night when they opened CERN.
So it's not me, Alex Jones, saying this.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Now they're valid.
Alex, hang on for one second.
I know you got to bounce.
I just want to talk about the new book.
He's absolutely right.
Jack Parsons at the Jet Propulsion Lab.
A conjurer of demons.
He was the first to admit it.
He wasn't shy about it.
He wasn't hiring about it.
He wasn't hiding it.
He was a student of Alistair Crowley.
Okay, short break.
Alex on the other side, with Rudy.
unidentified
Next.
mike lindell
Alex, you've got a book.
unidentified
It's called The Great Awakening.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Alex, you've got a book, it's called The Great Awakening.
Give me a minute or two about this, because I know you've got a punch.
alex jones
Well, I'm very honored to be here, and thanks for having me, Steve.
We already had the number one best-selling book, The Great Reset and the War for the World, about what the globalists are doing.
This book is also almost twice as long.
It's almost 500 pages.
I'm just finishing the book today.
It's going to the proofreader.
People have been going back and forth.
It'll be coming out in late August, so it'll be getting printed here in about two weeks.
People can pre-order it on Amazon.com.
It's the only place that's available for pre-order.
We want to push it again to number one.
I have to say, it was the War Room, even more than my show, that did push it for a few weeks off and on to number one.
And it reached a lot of people and had a lot of the globalist quotes and kind of their plans.
And a great American patriot, probably the leading American patriot, named Steve Bannon, has written the foreword to the book.
No, stop that.
unidentified
Stop.
alex jones
This is the... I had to.
I love great...
steve bannon
The reason I, just real quickly, this is a, so much we are doom and gloom, this actually lays the predicate for the next great American Renaissance, does it not, sir?
alex jones
It does.
The book's close to 500 pages.
We may cut a few more, but it's a big book, and it gets in a snapshot to how bad the evil people are, but actually shows what idiots they are in many ways, once we're aware of them and challenge them.
So the full title basically deals with defeating the New World Order, defeating the globalists, and launching the second great renaissance.
And so it also plays off of some of the Christian great awakenings that have happened, the great awakening that helped found this country that was led by Christians and Catholics and others that didn't want to be slaves to the crown.
And so it really is a blueprint for victory and it shows how far we've come and it looks into AI, it looks into Jeffrey Epstein, the fact that Epstein and Nygaard from all the evidence were really farming women to have babies aborted so they could then suck their stem cells and because these rich men don't just want a regular stem cell, they want the stem cell of their child.
They believe that's even more powerful.
We actually have the documents and their own confessions.
That have gotten no attention for some reason in the book.
Nygaard on TV said, I kill my kids and suck their juices and have them injected into me.
So we go beyond what the general public knows and really show you the full horror of these people, but then point out how to defeat them.
So the book has a very optimistic title, but I'd say it's 60% exposing the globalist, 40% the solution, but really it's about family and God and country and saying no.
What your earlier amazing guest Liz Wheeler was saying.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Last thing, I just want to make sure I got this right.
By the way, Great Awakening, go to Amazon right now.
Let's drive this book to number one.
I just want to make sure I got this.
And not to name names, but people have been inviting you out.
Just give me a minute.
These group things, is it about taking hallucinogenics and then connecting with people that are not biological humans?
Is that what I'm led to believe by what you're telling me?
alex jones
Yes, and I think these people mean well because this is like the third phase.
They did beta.
Well, it's come out that the owner of Time Life Books and the rich Eastern elite in the 50s and 60s and 70s, they were all on hallucinogens.
They decided to roll LSD out to the public.
So the entire 60s counterculture revolution was them.
And so now they have rolled out DMT, Ayahuasca, all these super powerful hallucinogens where you're not even conscious.
I mean, you're in full visual, full, a whole other planet.
With the Ayahuasca, about 12 hours or longer.
With the DMT, about five minutes.
And I had a lot of groups approach me.
Some meant well, some others didn't.
I mean, I can't speak to motive, but when I had it described to me, the latest stuff, but like, Hey, there's astronauts there and there's these people there.
And these are famous military leaders.
I mean, famous people that are like, Alex, we know you got a drinking problem sometimes.
And you know, you've been through a lot.
This will be a total reset.
Uh, we'd like to, you know, have you come to this facility and, uh, I mean, it's done with doctors and they give you these pills and then more pills and they give you an injection.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
and then they say and then you'll be like 20 years younger and no more problems and you're just gonna be a new man and my point is is that that's the level of stuff they've got and yes you said it during the break that sounds like MKUltra I'm not accusing them that but but this is the rolling it out to the entire public and you see the New York Times Oh hallucinogens are the answer for young people and depression and PTSD so they're just rolling it out but yes this was this why they put they're pushing this mental health
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Listen, you start conjuring demons, you don't know where this ends up.
You start conjuring demons, you do not know where this ends up.
alex jones
And the majority of people that take...
Yes, the majority of people that take DMT or Ayahuasca see most common is little elves that can pull their mask off and are demons, fractal spaceships, and giant praying mantises, and creatures with horns.
And I've talked to people that are involved in this.
They'll have 30, 40 people taking it, and they're seeing the same aliens.
So the veil is lifted, and they're talking to demons.
That's what Christians would call it.
steve bannon
Alex, we've got to bounce.
How do people get to your show now, since they're trying to shut you down everywhere?
Where do they go?
alex jones
They can find the Forbidden Show at infowars.com, forward slash show, infowars.com.
They can find all my archives, the live show, and all our other great hosts and people at band.video.
And you're the best, and I hope everybody will join me there.
I'm live in about 25 minutes.
You're the only other, or 30 minutes, you're the only guy that works as hard as I do.
Steve Bannon, thanks for having me on.
steve bannon
No.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
Fantastic monologue.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
From the sublime to the less sublime.
Rudy Giuliani, are you saying the 2020 election wasn't stolen?
And are you saying there was no, nothing happened in Georgia?
Because this is the mainstream media.
I got my brother, Rudy, and all I'm hearing is Rudy surrendered.
Rudy, Biden's legitimate president.
What's going on?
rudy giuliani
I surrender.
I surrender.
What a bunch of crap.
I mean, the reality is, Steve, I don't even react to it anymore.
I woke up the other morning and I read that I had admitted that I lied and that I was cooperating against Trump.
Neither of those are anywhere near the truth.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Rudy flipped.
unidentified
Rudy flipped.
rudy giuliani
I can't flip anymore.
Maybe when I was younger, but the way they define flipping, here's what I did.
And this is of course impossible for them to understand.
I told the truth.
And if you consider that I did answer the questions I could that weren't privileged, and I revealed a picture in which neither Donald Trump, nor I, nor any of the people working for him, committed anything close to a crime.
Well, that's what I did.
And then second, with regard to admitting that I lied, I entered a stipulation in the case in order to take those issues out of the case.
So we can focus on the legal issues that can get decided by a judge.
I didn't admit them.
I didn't deny them.
It's a very typical stipulation that you enter into in litigation where you take certain issues out.
Neither side admits or denies them.
So you can move on to, in my case, did I have proper support for what I was saying?
I did.
And number two, did they violate my First Amendment rights?
Which they did.
And that's what we want the case decided on.
Because otherwise, we go before a Washington jury, and we'll have no chance.
So we want it decided by a court, which we can then take up to the D.C.
Circuit and the Supreme Court, and at least we have a fair chance.
steve bannon
I just want to reiterate this, then.
You're not saying there was no voter fraud in the 2020 election, correct?
rudy giuliani
Nowhere.
In fact, that's not even involved.
The only thing involved is, did I make the statement About the two women who were messing around with the ballots, you know, under the table, with the blanket over it, after they threw the people out.
Did I make those statements?
And do I want to litigate that?
The answer to that is, I don't want to litigate it, and I don't admit that they're true or false.
I just get them out of the case.
It's done all the time in litigation.
And it's in no way an admission.
unidentified
In fact, it says that right in the agreement.
steve bannon
But they didn't show the agreement.
They're just hammering you.
Of course not.
rudy giuliani
The same thing they did with trial by combat, which got thrown out.
steve bannon
Exactly.
All day long in MSNBC, they're telling me that Rudy's flipped.
You can tell Rudy's flipped on President Trump.
Your comments, sir?
rudy giuliani
Well, totally nuts.
I mean, I told the truth about what happened, and the truth is that he did nothing wrong.
And the way they define flipping, it's becoming a witness against the defendant.
I'm not.
I'm a witness, in fact, for the defendant because I support the fact that what he did was perfectly legal.
Even the areas that I couldn't answer because of attorney-client privilege, I did indicate generally that if I was relieved of the privilege, I'm just going to give you Exculpatory testimony, so don't bother.
I mean, I'm just going to tell you that he's innocent.
And they haven't bothered.
steve bannon
Rudy, how did they get to your radio show?
How do we get to the content?
How do we get to that incredible show you co-host with Dr. Maria Ryan?
Where do they go to all your show and get, or where do they go for all of it?
rudy giuliani
Well, you can get me on wabcradio.com.
Three o'clock this afternoon all over the world.
Ten o'clock on Sunday.
With Dr. Maria.
And then you can get me every night, 8 o'clock, on a group of social media platforms, including Getter, where I am on 8 o'clock every single night.
You can call in.
And that one is going like gangbusters, Steve.
We're just adding people.
You know the text and the video that I put out explaining what I just said to you?
unidentified
I've gone over 600,000 people so far.
steve bannon
No, it's unbelievable.
People need to hear the world.
Rudy, thank you so much for making it clear.
The audience loves it.
We're going to push it out hard.
rudy giuliani
Thank you, Patriot.
steve bannon
Nothing's true with the mainstream media.
Thank you, America's Mayor.
One of the greatest living Americans.
Hank Williams Sr., the pale horse in his rider, takes us out.
Short commercial break.
unidentified
congressman nancy mace in the house next the goes by.
Bye.
you Here's your host, Stephen K. Bound.
...intelligence extraterrestrials.
extra trash trails.
david grusch
Something I can't discuss in public setting.
unidentified
Okay, I can't ask when you think this occurred.
If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft?
david grusch
As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah.
unidentified
Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?
david grusch
Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to that are currently still on the program.
unidentified
And was this documentary evidence, video, photos, eyewitness?
How would that be determined?
david grusch
The specific documentation I would have to talk to you in a skiff about.
unidentified
Gotcha.
Okay, so, and you may or may not be able to answer my last question, and maybe we get into a skiff at the next hearing that we have, but who in the government, either, what agency, sub-agency, what contractors, who should be called into the next hearing about UAPs, either in a public setting or even in a private setting?
And you probably can't name names, but what agencies or organizations, contractors, etc., do we need to call in to get these questions answered, whether it's about funding, what programs are happening, and what's out there?
david grusch
I can give you a specific cooperative and hostile witness list of specific individuals that were in those.
unidentified
And how soon can we get that list?
david grusch
I'm happy to provide that to you after the hearing.
unidentified
Super, thank you.
And I yield back.
steve bannon
Okay, we would have so much in normal times to be able to discuss today.
Of justice, all of it.
But we've got to get to the heart of the matter.
And this hearing, I think, is the most important hearing in the history of the modern Congress.
And if you have no interest in UFOs and no interest in aliens, I have no problem with that.
I didn't really have a big interest in it either.
That's not what this is about.
This is about something far deeper that we've talked about for a long time.
The consent of the governed.
And who actually governs this country?
And what information is slowed back?
Nancy Mace joins us.
Congressman Mace, you've played by the rules.
I mean, you're a rebel and you're a little bit of a... Have I played by the rules?
unidentified
That's up for debate.
steve bannon
Because you went to the Citadel, you're now a congressman.
I mean, you're not a total revolutionary.
You're sitting in that hearing and you're gobsmacked by the answers.
unidentified
Speechless.
steve bannon
Speechless.
And my point is, you're someone from the system.
And you're asking a question in the Cartesian kind of rationality and looking for a rational, give me something that's rational.
And the guy basically answered your question by saying there was, what, a non-biologic entity, non-human biologic that was the driver of the alien craft.
Did he not?
unidentified
Right, and I was speechless when I asked that question.
And then how do you come back from that?
What do you ask or you say when somebody says that?
It's one thing for him to go on and do an interview in the media, but this is a former intelligence officer, a retired colonel, and someone who is under oath.
Why would you have to?
our questions. So he's made these statements, defining statements, defining moments in the history of Congress under oath. And I was, I was speechless.
I didn't even know what to, I didn't even know what to ask at that point, but I was like human or non-human, I guess is the next logical question. And he answered it, but it's very important. Number one, we're getting, we're getting that list of names and agencies from him. I think that's really important as a next step on what private contractors have been involved in. But why would you have to, this is what's so shocking. Why did you even have to ask that question?
steve bannon
What was so stunning about this is that not only is there no oversight, they don't believe in the concept of oversight.
They don't think that you have, as a representative of your district and therefore the American people, have a right to know.
First off, not only do you have a right to know, That you are not cleared for the information to be able to handle it.
And number two, and even the funding and how this thing is forward, you have no say so in that either, which is supposed to be the bedrock of oversight of the reason the founders set up the house.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Control the money.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Right.
And have the oversight of the executive branch.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
Here the executive branch, it's not the 3,000 political appointees of the 1,000 Senate confirmed.
They're just passing through too.
This is a permanent administrative and deep state that told you guys the other day.
And these are the whistleblowers.
These are the good guys.
At best, we might be able to show you Little Lake in a SCIF, in a highly classified setting.
Am I incorrect on any of that?
unidentified
No, you're correct.
And it's not about little green men.
That's not what this is about.
This is about the government.
And you can't trust the government or institutions if they're willing to hide information from you.
You deserve the right to know what assets we have.
Congress also.
We have the right to know.
The people have the right to know.
This is a much bigger issue than Little Green Men.
This is about the misappropriation of your tax dollars of funding.
Where is it going?
Who's paying for it?
How much is it?
And whose pocket is it in?
This is about technology.
This is about national security.
This is about, you know, is non-human?
Does that mean AI?
Are we that advanced with AI?
steve bannon
Like, this is... Well, you said non-human biologic.
unidentified
Yeah, what does that mean?
steve bannon
Would it be something that your constituents would want to know down in South Carolina?
if there were actually alien beings that we had had for many decades in the U.S. government.
Would that be something that the hardworking folks down there, that have paid to serve our nation, is that something they should know?
unidentified
I've gotten more constituent messages on this UAP hearing than about my prayer breakfast.
It is the number one thing, not just in South Carolina.
steve bannon
This is a PG-rated show, so we can't even go there.
unidentified
It was a PG-rated joke.
It was a PG-rated joke.
We can't even go there.
steve bannon
Hannity can go there, we can't go there.
unidentified
I know, but you know, everybody laughed.
We were on the floor.
But this is much more.
Even my kids were sending me videos about the hearing.
It has trickled down to our younger generations.
steve bannon
What are your constituents saying?
unidentified
Well, they just want to know the truth.
They want to know how much money has been spent.
They want to know why so much has been hidden.
And I want that list of hostile witnesses.
I would like to talk to people and ask, well, what are these programs?
What are we spending money on?
What do we have?
What's the technology?
Because we mentioned earlier, there's an AI arms race with China.
Is this our technology?
The other thing that's really missing this conversation is the energy.
If things can defy gravity and defy physics, Do we have possession of that energy?
That's a very powerful tool.
There are just a lot of technological questions, too, which I think we deserve.
I know.
I don't think we know that we deserve the answers.
steve bannon
At a minimum.
And I understand the House Intelligence was not particularly helpful in this, but at a minimum, shouldn't the gang, at least in 1972 or 73, shouldn't the Gang of Eight been informed of all of this?
unidentified
At a bare minimum.
steve bannon
And the appropriate oversight committee in classified settings should have known about all of it.
unidentified
100%.
No doubt.
There's no reason to hide it.
steve bannon
You're saying there's no security clearance Yeah, and the American people are resilient.
unidentified
We can take it.
I know pilots in my own family who have seen things that are unexplainable.
And the other thing that was missed also in the media coverage is that 95% of our pilots don't go on to report what they see because they're worried about their careers.
They're worried about retribution.
They're worried about losing their jobs.
They're worried about not getting promoted.
And if you're flying a fast, high-speed jet, you are very smart.
You are very capable.
You're not making this stuff up.
steve bannon
When you go into for the next meetings, because Gates and you kind of laid it out, you've got to go for a classified version, which I don't think is right.
But hey, if you got to do it, you got to do it.
What is the outcomes?
What are you hoping to achieve in this process?
And how far is Nancy Mace prepared to go, not simply to get the truth, but then to have the American people sharing that truth.
unidentified
Well, we, one, we've got to know what's actually going on and corroborate what these witnesses said in the hearing, which was explosive.
We need to corroborate from other witnesses, hostile and friendly, what we have.
We need to get out what are the programs.
How much money is being invested?
How advanced is our technology or adversaries or where this is coming from?
Those kinds of things.
It's very important that we shed light on what's actually happening in the shadows of government.
We talked about this before I came on air, the movie Oppenheimer.
If you haven't seen it, I would highly encourage everyone to sit down for three hours and watch it.
But one of my, I think, most insightful quotes from that movie, I believe it was Robert Downey Jr.' 's character, in one of the scenes he said, amateurs chase the sun.
and get burned.
But power stays in the shadows.
We don't need to have the government hiding in the shadows, doing things behind the back of Congress or the backs of the American people.
We ought to have all this information at our fingertips.
steve bannon
When you say that, in the shadows was in that hearing, and those are whistleblowers, the good guys, and they were telling you the shadows Don't think they report to you, have no interest in reporting to you, and quite frankly, will not report to you.
Understand, they're just like I said, they go, oh, Nancy Mace from South Carolina is interested in finding out.
Do you honestly believe that they're going to, just like when Trump won in 16, oh, they're going to toss the keys to you and you're going to run things now?
Do you believe that's going to happen?
And if not, then what is Nancy Mace prepared to do about it?
unidentified
Well, it's important that we have folks with strong backs and strong minds that are willing to go the distance to get the answers, and it's not going to be easy, but it won't happen in a public setting.
It'll happen in a SCIF, if it happens at all, which is why the follow-up from this, having more hearings, getting the list of witnesses who can corroborate the information, get us information about the programs that are happening, You know, so we can confirm what is actually going on and be able to share that with the American people is a whole nother story.
That's a whole nother fight.
steve bannon
Having seen the movie and you got Esper on Semaphore, we had it up in the first block, saying we're in an outright arms race right now with China on AI.
Knowing that that is to the 10th power more dangerous and deadly than what Oppenheimer and them were working on in the atomic and subatomic physics, what warning do you have to the American people about this race with artificial intelligence and where it may end up going?
unidentified
Well, it's happening.
It absolutely is happening and what I'm seeing of our own government, China is only one or two years behind us.
That is what's so scary about the technology is once they have it, what are they going to do about it?
And we have guys up here on the hill that don't know how to log into Facebook that are expected to make decisions on how we move forward on AI.
steve bannon
Steve Bannon has said for years that the Chinese Communist Party is an existential threat to the United States.
Donald Trump says, I disagree with Steve Bannon.
I think the administrative state and the deep state are the existential threat to the United States.
Do you feel comfort in that arms race that the people that refuse to give you the information on the UFO situation are the people in these weapons labs that are driving the artificial intelligence?
Is it a fact that us winning that arms race is a good thing?
unidentified
Well, we have to win the arms race.
I mean, we have to beat China in this endeavor.
Do I trust that our leadership in the administration or the bureaucracy that exists today have the wherewithal to do it?
No, I do not.
In fact, I just got out of a classified briefing.
Obviously, I can't talk about it, but I came away with the sense that we're not prepared to win the AI arms race at the government level.
steve bannon
If we don't change the way... What do you mean by that?
unidentified
Well, the kind of technology that's out there that we're not utilizing to ensure that we stay ahead of China.
And, you know, I am very much in the AI and cybersecurity space.
I chair the Cybersecurity Subcommittee on Oversight.
Very knowledgeable about some of these things.
steve bannon
And with your classification, what percentage of what is actually going on in this government today in cyber and AI do you, Nancy Mace, think that they give you as far as information?
unidentified
60%?
80%? 5%?
10%?
I mean, you know, half of what we get... You're dropping a bomb here, baby.
That's a truth bomb.
steve bannon
Stop.
You chair it and you didn't come, you didn't wander off the playing field yesterday.
unidentified
You're saying... Oh, bare minimum.
5%?
Oh yeah, bare minimum.
Bare minimum.
It's not, when we're up here, when we go into a class, we go into a SCIF, half of what they give us is open source.
It's what you can read in the media.
It's not classified.
It's really not until I travel overseas and I talk to commanders and leaders in other parts of the world in another classified setting where I get the real information about what's really going on because they hide so much from us in Congress and they laugh at us when they do it.
Okay, but isn't that, isn't that, that's untenable.
steve bannon
Yeah.
At 5%, you're saying you believe you have on top of 5% of what they've actually gone on and yet we're funding it every year.
You think 5%?
unidentified
Yeah, it's crazy to me, the information we get.
It's non-existent.
Half of what we get isn't even classified.
Short break.
steve bannon
We're going to go out with Hank Williams Sr.
We're going to come back.
We've got Congressman Nancy Mace, who's truth-bombing us today here in the War Room.
Back in a moment.
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We're pressed for time.
We'd love to get you back on by Skype.
We know you're leaving town like everybody is.
You just dropped a bomb.
I just want to make sure I understand this.
You chair a subcommittee on cyber security and you chair it.
It has artificial intelligence and all that.
And you believe, and you're no wilting flower.
unidentified
No, I'm no shrinking violet.
steve bannon
You're no shrinking violet.
You believe that you, they only give you at max five or 10% of what's really going on.
unidentified
Yeah.
I literally just walk out of a skiff.
I just had a classified briefing by a number of three letter agencies.
And I would tell you, we got 5% of what we got was classified.
in that meeting.
I mean, the vast majority of what we get in the SCIF isn't even classified.
It's what you could Google, what you could look up in open source sources and information and media reports that anybody can get.
I mean, the frustration is it's mocking our ability, mocking our positions to have oversight on these government bureaucrats who can get away with just about anything and have no one hold them accountable.
steve bannon
How can you have consent of the governed?
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
If, in fact, the apparatus will not give the people's representatives that information.
unidentified
Yeah, it's hard.
You can't have government accountability.
I had a lot of things happen on Wednesday, including the UAP hearing, but the hearing I had on oversight right after that, we had a government bureaucrat and I was sitting in the chair.
It was my cybersecurity committee.
I ended up cursing him out from the chair in my closing remarks because he was laughing at me at his unwillingness or inability or ignorance.
He wouldn't answer any questions.
He just sat there and said, well, I don't have the answer, I gotta give it to my higher-ups, because my witness wouldn't show up, they didn't have the documents I asked for, and what I got was completely redacted.
And they mock us, and they laugh at us, and they think we're stupid.
And that means they think the taxpayer is stupid.
So, I got a little Randy from the, a little Racey from the chair the other day, because I was angry that they were mocking us.
steve bannon
What's your social media?
How'd they get to your website?
unidentified
NancyMace.org.
steve bannon
We'll have you back on a longer segment when we get down on this.
I know there's a lot to go through on the Biden and all that, and the SARS reports, and the human trafficking, the women's trafficking.
I want to spend appropriate time on it on Kramer.
unidentified
Yeah.
Thank you very much.
Prostitution rings.
All that.
steve bannon
No doubt.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Trafficking of women for sex.
unidentified
Millions of dollars spent on it.
steve bannon
Millions of dollars.
unidentified
Millions.
steve bannon
By Hunter Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
We'll get you back when we explode.
You already dropped enough truth bombs today.
Congressman Bates, thank you so much for joining us.
Mike Lindell, you heard the chairman of the subcommittee on cybersecurity.
I know it's been a big issue for you.
Talk to me about the election summit, sir.
mike lindell
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steve bannon
Mike, real quickly, just a minute on this.
Nancy Mace just tells us she chairs the committee on cyber and the bureaucrats blow her off.
How are you going to be able to get to the bottom of, because your big thing with the machines is all this cyber and cyber warfare.
How are you going to get to the bottom of it, brother?
mike lindell
Well, this is a two-day event.
The second day, we're going to announce all of this.
And we don't need... Remember, this is like back with Al Capone, where he had the government in his pocket, he had the judges, he had the police, he had the media, he had all this.
So they came at him from a different angle.
Steve, when we announce this plan, everyone's going to go, wow!
This is amazing.
We don't need our government.
We don't need the judges.
We don't need all this stuff.
And by the way, everybody, it is legal.
It's going to be amazing.
I can't wait.
I'm looking forward to every... This has to be heard around the world, everybody.
steve bannon
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steve bannon
Mike Lindell, brother, thank you so much for coming on the election summit.
Every day we're going to be hitting it.
Thank you, brother.
We're going to be driving this audience.
Millions of people are going to watch it.
Mike Lindell, you're great.
mike lindell
Thank you.
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On that judgment day you'll weep and you'll cry When the pale horse and its rider goes by When the wind blows, the wind blows.
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