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Episode 2889: AZ Attorney Generals Criminalizing Donald Trump
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
Wednesday, 19 July, Year of Alert 2023.
We're going to be live this afternoon.
Jack Posobiec starts at 2.
Natalie Winters will be at 4.
I will hopefully be there in time to co-host with her at 4 o'clock.
We'll be here at 5 o'clock.
And then at 6, a whole special of just interviews with the principals, Jim Caviezel, Tim Ballard, Eduardo Vestager, the Harmon brothers who put the film out, all of it on Sound of Freedom, so huge day.
A lot going on in that.
We'll be able to give you the full background story tomorrow and Friday about what's actually happening because now it is people are pulling together to take action, action, action.
To stop this epidemic of the trafficking of humans, particularly women and small children, for sex.
It's absolutely disgraceful, and that's why this film has had such a massive impact.
Angel.com slash War Room.
You go right now, get your tickets.
The film is about to breach $100 million, which is extraordinary, given it had zero marketing budget.
And it's been in the can for a couple of years, suppressed by the studios.
Mark Mitchell.
The 2013 and 2014 number After the Romney debacle, and really the impact of 2008 started to hit, and of course, the Obama-Biden, that depth is one of the things that lit the fuse in the Trump populist movement.
How do people get to you?
You get much more detailed crosstab breakdowns on your site.
unidentified
Where do people go to get all your stuff?
Go to Twitter, Rasmussen underscore poll.
That's where we post everything.
Uh, right after this, I'll go and retweet our video from yesterday that really compared Trump to all of the GOP slate and he's just head and shoulders above everybody else.
So lots of good data in there for your audience.
Um, and you know, I put those, uh, YouTube videos out five or six minutes.
They go into all the details of our poll.
And also I'll post the rest of these questions today on Twitter too.
Like for the first time, a majority of Americans think that a randomly selected person out of the phone book would do better job than the Congressman that they elected to go to DC.
steve bannon
Fascinating.
Mark Mitchell, thank you so much.
Always honored to have you guys on here.
The work that Rasmussen does in the field every day with the toughest questions out there.
unidentified
Thanks.
steve bannon
Some programming notes.
Tomorrow and the next day we're really going to get into the currency, the capital markets economy.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
last night put out that he wants part of our Federal Reserve notes, the currency, to be backed by either Bitcoin Or wait for it.
Precious metals, gold.
We now know, and I'm going to have Harnwell up here in a minute, Russians as a counter to the attack on the bridge in Crimea.
That links Crimea, had a massive, it looks like rocket attack on the grain facility, the grain infrastructure in Odessa.
They'd already kind of canceled that deal to allow the grain to go out.
Now they responded.
As we keep talking about this situation, Ukraine continues to escalate and metastasize.
And this is going to be a big deal.
Also, the Wall Street Journal's reporting he is not going to go.
We're doing wall-to-wall coverage.
In fact, we're trying to get a correspondent to cover from Durbin.
You can go to birchgold.com slash banner right now to get our summary.
We've been doing this for a year, year and a half, almost two years now, I think.
The end of the dollar empire, the end of the dollar is a prime reserve currency.
Wall Street Journal's reporting That Putin is probably not even going to go to Durban to the BRICS conference because there's some fear he would be arrested and taken to an international court for trial.
So a lot going on in that in regards to also the currency in capital markets.
Remember the alternative currency they're coming up with, they're talking about it being some basket or the yuan or something they're going to come up with, but they're saying it's going to be somehow backed by gold.
Not convertible into gold, but backed by gold.
That's why you've got to go to Birch Gold right now.
Get all the information like you did on the debt ceiling.
You need to have this information.
Make sure you also talk to Philip Patrick and the team while you're there about why the central banks of these economies are buying gold at record rates.
So make sure you check it out.
I want to bring in something that's really changed.
I think the audience understands that sometimes I don't make the best food choices.
So this came about, this Field of Greens, the real organic superfood, which has just been extraordinary and had a huge impact on my energy and how I can get up and do the show every day and travel all around to all this crazy stuff.
Myles Grimard is the CEO.
Can you just take a minute or two and tell us about Field of Greens, how you guys came up with it, what's the purpose of it, and how should people Start getting involved with it.
Like I said, the production staff here at the War Room gives you 10 stars on a field of 10, sir.
unidentified
That's a great rating.
I know you've spoke with our evil genius, Dr. Kim, a few times.
He's really the brains behind it.
I had a big online retail shop and we sold everybody, all the big and small companies products And Mike was the top of the head doctor, one of the biggest.
And so I brought him in because everything that I was selling was who had the prettiest girl on Instagram or the biggest juice head on the muscle magazines.
And I kind of saw a niche where I came from a tech background.
I knew if we created stuff that was different, we didn't have to race to the bottom on prices and we could come up with newer, better products.
So the difference of Field of Greens versus all of our competitors is our competitors use extracts, which can be fine.
But Mike found a way that we can actually, if you look at the label, it says nutrition facts, not supplement facts.
We can source actual fruits and vegetables from around the world that are beneficial for your health and Many ways.
And all we do is crush those up, turn them into a powder, and put them in the bottle.
So as opposed to our competitors, they use extracts.
One of our biggest complaints we get is it tastes different.
Well, throughout the year there's different crops, and it's actually just real fruits and vegetables, which is why it's healthy for you and the whole family.
steve bannon
Talk about that for a second, because what's the difference between the way you make it, and I don't think you can do pill form, it's all in powder, but what's the difference?
Because obviously the extract versions are, I've never seen on cable news advertising like this.
It's carpet bombed, because we monitor the news sites to do clips and it's carpet bombed non-stop.
Obviously you guys are not, but what's the fundamental difference in that?
unidentified
Right out of the gates, it's impossible to get a full serving of fruits and vegetables in capsules.
I mean, if you look at capsules, they only hold so much, they're pretty small.
A scoop of field of greens is, what we do is we take the fruits and vegetables, we dehydrate them, and then they're just crushed up.
They go through a scientific process in the labs where they extract certain nutrients that they can then put on the label and they can claim There's this many blueberries, there's so many kale and everything like that.
Well, we actually take the blueberries and the kale, dehydrate it and crush it up.
And so that's the major difference.
And you can't put that into a scoop.
Even our scoop pump competitors, they're going to use whatever.
There's a lot of fillers in our competitors, and they're going to use those.
But they can say the same nutrition contents because of the extract process.
So ours is actually just fruits and vegetables.
Again, which is why ours has a nutrition facts panel, it's not a supplement facts panel.
There's not really anyone else that does that.
steve bannon
The fruits and vegetables, you get this serving, what is the energy kick come from?
Is that just from unleashing the natural power of fruits and vegetables?
Because this thing definitely has an energy kick.
Yeah, for most people.
The folks that use it, and particularly my young charges here, who normally are running 23 hours a day, they'll admit, and I know it, it's an energy pop.
So how does that happen?
unidentified
Yeah, well it goes back to when your mom says take your fruits and vegetables.
It goes back to there's so much going in your body at once, and a lot of people just are not used to that.
Vegetables kind of go out the door these days.
It's tough to buy them.
If you're going to the store to buy something, you're going to buy a steak and cook it, at least as myself.
And it's much More difficult to add all the stuff you need on the sides, especially all the different types of fruits and vegetables that do different things for your body.
So it's really, for many people, it's just getting all those fruits and vegetables you usually don't get in one single scoop, and then it's adding it in, and they affect your body in different ways.
steve bannon
Miles, how do people go to Field of Greens to get the information that you just laid out, and if they so want to order, where do they go?
unidentified
They would go to fieldofgreens.com and use the code BANNON for 15% off your first order.
Please do.
Dr. Kim and I are in a competition to see who can do the best on the Steve Bannon Show.
By the way, you're not too shabby.
steve bannon
He's kind of an audience favorite, but for your maiden voyage, it's not bad.
It has not been bad.
Not too bad.
The audience loves Dr. Kim, but you're okay.
You're not too shabby.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
See you.
Appreciate hearing that.
steve bannon
Feel free to use the icon.
Go to Bannon.
Okay, let's box it.
I want to put it up in my, if, if, if, if Grace and Captain Bannon can put that up there and get it all into all the different chat rooms.
Fieldofgreens.com slash Bannon.
Go there.
Support Miles in this fight with Dr. Kill.
Brother, thank you so much.
And thank you for marketing this.
It's made a real difference.
Really appreciate it.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
And every audience member out there, thank you so much for the support.
I know it's It means a lot to us, and you exchange your hard-earned dollars, and I'm glad you value the field of greens more than those hours you put in at work.
steve bannon
We really do.
Direct benefit.
Like I said, I don't always make the best food choice.
I'm the guy going and buying the steak and not the vegetables.
Thank you very much, Miles.
Appreciate it.
unidentified
Thank you so much, Steve.
I appreciate the time.
steve bannon
If you don't make great food choices, you've got field of greens.
To help you out, let's get it all up and everybody check it out.
Christina Bob, one of the president's lawyers, you're on TV a lot.
They're criminalizing supporting Donald Trump.
You've seen this in Michigan last night, NBC News reporting Arizona.
Remember, Arizona, she's not even legitimate.
Abe Hamade won that, right?
She's not even a lieutenant attorney general.
So give me your assessment.
Are they criminalizing supporting President Trump?
christina bobb
They're criminalizing their political opposition.
They're trying to scare conservatives away from voicing their opinion, voicing any type of dissent.
They're really going after political dissent from their offices.
So there were charges referred against 16 electors in Michigan within 24 hours of President Trump announcing that he had received a target letter from Jack Smith's office regarding January 6th.
Now we see Arizona maybe doing the same thing.
These are all liberal attorney generals with a liberal special prosecutor going after their political opponents.
What's interesting to me about what they brought in Michigan, because right now all we can see is what came out in Michigan, is they're charging forgery, which is a very odd charge to bring in a case like this.
Because usually forgery means you're trying to make something look like something it's not.
You forge a Monet and you want to make it look like a Monet from years ago.
You forge a check, you sign someone else's name.
If you sign your own name to your own check, that's not a forgery.
That's just a check.
That's what we have here.
They filled out their own names.
They signed their own names as Trump electors.
The idea that this is somehow a forged document is nonsensical.
It doesn't make any sense.
It appears to be a way to threaten the electors into testifying.
Because remember now, all these people they've indicted are supposed to be witnesses against President Trump in Jack Smith's investigation.
So it appears to be a way to threaten witnesses saying, if you don't testify against Donald Trump the way we want you to, we're throwing you in jail.
steve bannon
Yes.
Yeah, the average age of these folks is like, uh, 70, 72 years old.
Christina, can, uh, Christine, can you just hang?
Christine, Bob, uh, one of the president's lawyers, uh, wrote, wrote the incredible book about everything that happened in 2020.
Uh, it really is as a warning about 2024 and it's upon us.
Remember, like Jack Posobiec said, they're trying to go after and strip, um, president Trump from being on any ballot.
This thing is, this is lawfare up in your grill.
Okay.
Jump out with the Battle Hymn of the Republic in the month of July.
And in fact, I think I'm making an announcement.
I think we're going to take this beyond July.
We've gotten tremendous feedback from people that like to hear the original great music of our country.
We take pride in our country.
We take pride in our flag.
We take pride in Old Glory.
Right?
unidentified
Not this perversion of whatever June was.
Right?
steve bannon
Battle Hymn of the Republic.
We're gonna take a short break.
Ben Harnwell from Rome, Matt Schlapp, Christina Bobb, all of it next.
unidentified
next. Major Bob, because you're from the United States Marine Corps, ma'am, I'm just wondering, this whole effort is to criminalize politics, criminalize dissent, criminalize being a Marine, and you're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing
steve bannon
it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing it. You're not doing criminalized dissent, criminalized being part of MAGA.
The Jack Smith is coming right at Trump, and now they're relentless.
They're going to have more indictments.
They're going to be throwing everything at him.
Is the purpose of this part of it to make sure they're going to go fight this after he's indicted and try to take him off ballots of states, ma'am?
christina bobb
I think they're going to try to do whatever they can, whether they try to take them off ballots or not.
I think that would be very hard to do before conviction, but who knows?
Who knows what they're going to try to do, right?
But I think the message that's important for the American people to hear right now is Donald Trump, whether it has weathered worse, he will weather this.
The American people have weathered worse.
We will get through this as well.
They're not going to take him out.
He will be the next president of the United States.
I am fully convinced of that.
And just like everything else they've tried to throw at him has failed, this too will fail.
steve bannon
It's absolutely amazing.
His polling's going up.
Harvard Harris has him at six points above.
Rasmussen just reported he's got the highest approval of any politician in the nation.
And Mark Mitchell just told us, the more they indicting, the more even different people come to his side because they understand something's very wrong in this country right now.
christina bobb
Yep, they're running out of cards to play.
steve bannon
Christina, where do people go?
Oh no, they'll come up with some more.
Where do people go to get you on social media, also to get your book and all your writings?
christina bobb
Yep, Stealing Your Vote, the inside story of the 2020 election, what it means for 2024.
It's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, wherever books are sold.
You can find me on Instagram, Twitter, Truth and Getter at Christina underscore pop.
steve bannon
We've got to have you back on about this, hopefully tomorrow or the next day, but this Arizona situation, particularly with an illegitimate attorney general.
Abe Hamade is the attorney general.
There's no doubt about that, not even a question.
So thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you coming on.
christina bobb
Thank you.
steve bannon
Georgia, Arizona, Michigan.
They're coming after the alternative electors because they're trying to criminalize supporting President Trump.
Ben Harnwell.
Maybe we can play B-roll.
If the way to do this, play B-roll of the assault.
Ben, the war is starting to metastasize.
The Ukrainians hit The bridge that connects Crimea.
Putin responded, as he always does, by going up a notch.
He took out the grain facilities, infrastructure, I understand, and we opened the show with kind of a brutal missile attack.
Now it's been announced that Wall Street Journal's reporting... I mean, we're even, I think, we're working to have a correspondent there in Durban on the 22nd of August, that alternative currency BRICS meeting.
Wall Street Journal's reporting that Putin's not going to attend Although they're one of the leaders that's not going to attend because they're afraid of him being arrested.
Give us an update, sir.
ben harnwell
That's right, Steve.
Now this is, I have to say, the war room is strictly neutral on our coverage of all of these things.
So I will say, in neutrality, as an impartial objective observer, this would be, if it turns out to be the case, this would be somewhat of a A missed opportunity for President Putin, Steve.
And the reason is they had some big announcements planned in Durban taking forward this BRICS concept.
As you mentioned before, they are planning to announce the fact that their trading currency between this region will be backed by gold, which will be an incredible blow not only to the dollar, especially to the dollar, but also to other fiat currencies.
Specifically, of course, $2 because that takes the lion's share of settlements.
So that was going to be a big PR maneuver for President Putin.
Also, on the same aspect, is that there are a number of countries that are interested in joining this.
This isn't just Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa.
There are, according to estimates, Russia has claimed there are 41 countries that are queued up asking to join this bloc.
And South Africa itself, which is hosting this in Durban, has said upwards of 20 countries have either asked this group of Sherpas who are the direct representatives of the five presidents so far, or have asked directly to President Ramaphosa.
So this is going to be a big thing.
And already is the BRICS trading area has just a little over one quarter of the world's GDP.
So the fact that Putin isn't going to be there is going to be frustrating for him.
I think potentially, as this BRICS concept rolls forward, is that countries signatories to that, obviously the United States, Russia, Ukraine, China, aren't signatories to the International Criminal Court established by the Rome Statute.
unidentified
But we will see countries, I think, like South Africa, start to withdraw from the ICC, simply I think potentially, as this BRICS concept rolls forward, is that countries signatories to that, obviously the United States, Russia, Ukraine, China, aren't signatories to the International Criminal Court established by the Rome Statute.
ben harnwell
But we will see countries, I think, like South Africa, start to withdraw from the ICC simply because it is now an extra means of the global elites to exert political pressure via the judicial process.
Now, to go to the footage that we have in the background, because this is all related, this is the bomb strikes over on Odessa.
Odessa, as the woman possibly will be extremely familiar with, it's the largest port that Ukraine has on the Black Sea.
In fact, Ukraine only borders the Black Sea.
It's landlocked on all other sides.
And it is mysterious, Steve, as to why Putin has carpet bombed this.
And here's the reason why I find it slightly strange.
It's because there was no need for him to do so.
He'd already announced on Sunday that Russia would be pulling out of the grain deal, the UN-brokered grain deal, which allowed Ukraine to export grain to the rest of the world.
And presumably the situation would have resorted to exactly as it was before the UN-brokered deal came in place.
Now, so, Steve, the question is, why bomb Odessa, why carpet bomb it?
This hasn't just been going on today, it's been going on since yesterday.
Well, here's what The Hill says in that article that Denver put up just a few moments ago.
Here's what it says, and I think this is actually the key to understanding this.
The Hill reports as Zelensky pledged to increase the defences at port facilities around the country.
Now, as we said just a moment or so ago, the terminology around the country is senseless because there is only the southern border of Ukraine that enters onto the Black Sea.
Why do this?
Well, if this is the consequence then, that Zelensky is going to be pulling troops out from the rest of the country to safeguard what's left of Odessa, not only Odessa but its other port towns, where are those troops going to come from?
War Room posse members will be familiar with my thesis on here, that the whole point of the supposed, inverted commas, coup, led by the Wagner group on the 24th of June last year, was in order to Yeah.
the troops up into Belarus.
So here's the question.
If Putin is now forcing Zelensky to pull his troops down to the southern border, the whole of the northern reaches of his country will be less protected and less defended.
And let's not forget, Steve, that the southernmost tip of Belarus is only 48 miles away from the outskirts of Kiev.
steve bannon
Yeah, I do think I do think one of the reasons they hit is that it's one thing to cancel the deal, it's another thing to cancel the Ukrainians' ability even to get back on their I mean, Putin is not messing around.
That's why escalation, this thing metastasizing is dangerous.
Ben, how do people get to your social media?
Because you've done such a great job of covering this.
Where do people go to follow you and follow this story?
ben harnwell
Thank you so much, Steve.
Yes, I'm on GETTA.
That's my social platform of choice.
And if folks want to search me out, they can just tap in my surname, Harnwell, for my comments on the development of Ukraine.
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
Ben from Rome.
Jack Posobiec is going to be at two from Bedminster.
He's going to have more to say about this.
We're live at four and at five on Real America's Voice live from Bedminster.
Also a special at six with interviews with all the key participants.
Matt Schlapp, you and Mercy have started, thank you, CPAC has started actually a center around child trafficking.
Can you give us a minute on that before we talk about the new scorecard?
matt schlapp
Yeah, you know, as you know, Steve, we take these CPACs all over the world now, and we were just hit with the stories of the victims of human trafficking when we were with Eduardo Verastegui, the producer of Sound of Freedom, and we went to these safe houses, we met the young girls, we met the young boys, that the left says are figments of our imagination and a conspiracy theory.
We met them, we know their names, we heard them sing, they put on a concert for us, we went to this amazing orphanage in Chalpo that has really rescuing 4,000 young Mexican girls at a time from really desperate situations in their neighborhoods.
This is a real problem.
And Mercy came back from the Mexico trip and said, you know, we're doing a lot of politics, but we got to save these kids.
And so she said, well, I want to set up a center.
And I, of course, Steve, uh, I do what I normally do.
And my wife has an idea.
I act like it's good, but I think she's crazy.
And I think it's, there's no way that we can practically do it.
And then she's convinced me that this is a fight worth having.
And we're partnering with Eduardo and a lot of friends we made in Mexico.
And now we're going to bring this fight to all the countries to go to around the world.
We're going to stop this barbaric practice and, uh, we're going to make a difference.
steve bannon
No, particularly in the United States, it's outrageous.
Let me ask you, and we'll hold you through the break, CPAC last night had 100 congressmen.
What's the report?
What does it tell us?
matt schlapp
It tells us that there's great optimism amongst the Freedom Caucus conservatives in the conference.
They feel like they can make a difference, and we want to do everything we can to help them.
unidentified
How does your scorecard show that?
matt schlapp
What it demonstrates is that, I think, the number one purpose of the R-score is that in a primary, the true conservative can point to their true conservative votes at the fake conservative.
Adam Kinzinger got a 29% in this scorecard.
Liz Cheney got just over 50%.
They can go on CNN and talk about how they're conservatives.
When you look at the record, our scorecard, the gold standard, demonstrates what liars they are, and it helps the true conservatives win these primaries.
It is one of the most important aids in making sure the freedom lovers win.
steve bannon
Okay, perfect.
We're going to come back and ask Matt about why it is the gold standard.
Short commercial break, Matt Schlapp.
We're also going to have Chadwick Moore is going to be in the house.
unidentified
Talk about this blockbuster new biography of Tucker Carlson.
steve bannon
in a moment in the war room.
unidentified
Glory, glory, hallelujah.
Glory, glory, hallelujah.
His day is...
Post Stephen K. Babb.
steve bannon
Okay, Schlapp, so why is the CPAC the gold standard?
Walk me through the methodology and the history that makes you the gold standard on this, on holding Congress and Senators, House Representatives and Senate accountable for their votes, sir.
matt schlapp
Because we marry up Reagan's idea that there were three legs to the stool, social and cultural, economic and smaller government.
And being strong against our enemies abroad.
And we bring that into the modern context.
There's not an issue that we avoid because some donor pool is in our pocket.
We talk about all the issues.
So there's no issues that we won't go into.
We don't do just the tactics like some conservatives groups do.
Some people have preferred tactics.
We think sometimes that's a cheap shot.
What are the members of Congress and members of the Senate, and by the way we do all the legislators All across this country, it's 8,000 ratings now.
Where are we on these key issues?
And when it comes to these basic questions of the corruption of the Biden administration or what DOJ is doing to shred our constitution, we are headlong into those issues as well.
So you can know where a member sits.
And the one takeaway is the Republican Party is diverse.
We have moderates, which I don't love so much.
The Democratic Party, they stick together and they are hard left.
The best members of the Democratic Party are in the low teens.
I mean, there's just no moderate Democrats left.
The fact is, if we're going to change this country, we've got to get the Republican Party to be a lot stronger.
steve bannon
Amen.
No moderates.
Don't need them to be like the Democrats.
Matt, how do people go, one, to get to the center that you're setting up for child trafficking and sex trafficking, and how do they go to find out and get the details on your report on people's votes?
matt schlapp
Follow me on Twitter or all the social media feeds at MSchlapp, and you can get everything we've put out in the last 24 hours.
Go to CPAC.org.
You can go into great, nerdy, geeky detail on all the votes that we scored and why.
We try to put a little humor in there as well.
You're going to learn something if you dig into it.
And as far as the Center is concerned, we got a lot.
We just announced that Frank Russo is our new director, who's a Real expert in the laws around the country.
Think about this, Steve.
We're going to marry our rating system in all these states, right?
And we're going to pick out the states that have good human trafficking laws, and we're going to bludgeon these other states and pressure these other states to pass similar legislation.
We're going to use these ratings to make a difference in these kids' lives.
There's no sense of having a rating if you ain't making a difference right now in America.
steve bannon
Amen, sir.
Thank you very much, Matt Schlapp.
By the way, we'll get into California's people passing, turning down some bizarre laws.
We're going to get into all of that.
Okay, if they do a close-up, this is... Who is that?
Ask the audience.
Who is that?
That's that.
That's Tucker.
Did we get the back of that?
It's Tucker Carlson.
New book by Chadwick Moore.
We had a book launch, Chadwick Moore, at Turning Point that was just influencers, power players.
They got the book.
They love the book.
What compelled you to write a biography of Tucker Carlson?
You could spend a lot of other times.
Why is Tucker Carlson a compelling figure to you?
unidentified
Well, I mean, he'd become sort of the most influential person in American politics, I felt, and very rapidly with his rise on Fox News.
But, you know, there's not many cable news personalities that you would want to read a book about, and certainly none that I would want to write a book about.
Yeah, I always just knew that, you know, as a regular on Tucker's show, that's sort of how I got to know him.
And even without, you know, I spent a lot of time with him for this book, but even before then, I knew there was something special and different about him.
And just politics aside, that he was just a fascinating person and also, you know, a good person, a very well-grounded person, very spiritual person.
And I wanted to put all that in the book.
I wanted for that to really come through and just tell the story about a man, you know, not necessarily... There are lots of topical stuff in the book, but I wanted to really get out there, like, who is this guy?
Where did he come from?
What motivates him?
And, you know, who is he off camera?
Who is he in his family life, in his personal life?
And, you know, he didn't disappoint in all the time that I spent with him for sure.
steve bannon
No, it's a journey of a man.
It's a journey also of a movement.
Because it talks about Tucker, his beliefs at the start when he first comes to D.C.
and you see the journey he comes where he's really one of the leaders of the populist nationalist movement or the anti-Stalinist, whatever you want to call it in a broader context.
Also, although he comes from materially, he's not from the working class.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
His story actually has a big sense of tragedy in it.
You want to talk about that?
I mean, he's had, not materially, but he's had a quite a tough life.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
When you think about the development.
Talk about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, he comes from a long line of Disfunction and abandonment that goes from his own father who was an orphan and his biological father killed himself after he was forced to put the baby up for adoption.
He was only 18 years old.
Before that, his adopted father's father died young and suddenly Tucker's own mother, Lisa, abandoned the family when Tucker was six years old.
He never saw her again.
She died in 2011.
steve bannon
That story is so brutal in the book.
Yeah, it really is.
Because you see Tucker If you don't know him, he's so sunny, but he's a sunny, upbeat personality.
Talk about the mother for a second, because I think it's something most people don't know.
unidentified
Yeah, it's fascinating.
People say that Tucker came from all this money and privilege.
They were comfortable, but they weren't elites by any means.
His dad was a local TV news anchor.
They ate at Denny's every night.
His mom was a California heiress.
She was from one of the richest families in San Francisco.
After they had children, he's got a younger brother, Buckley.
So when Tucker was six, she basically decided that she wanted to be this free-spirited bohemian, became this kind of art world groupie around Los Angeles.
And I interviewed people who knew her and talked to her.
She was big into drugs and alcohol.
She was kind of a mess.
People would just recall seeing her around parties being drunk and aggressive.
And, uh, he never, she, he did speak to her twice after she left.
steve bannon
But she just walked out one day.
unidentified
She just walked out.
steve bannon
And he was like six.
unidentified
He was six.
steve bannon
He was probably not much older.
I mean, look at that.
That's a sweet kid right there.
Look, look at that.
Not much older than that.
unidentified
That was about the time that Lisa left.
Yeah.
steve bannon
And his mother just walks, I mean, it's hard to, particularly people come from big loving families.
She just walks out never to be seen again.
unidentified
It's, it's amazing.
It's amazing to imagine that.
And, uh, he never saw her again.
She died in 2011.
But he said to me once in the book that he said, you know, he feels lucky because a lot of people, he didn't have to grow up in the house with a crazy person.
And a lot of people do have to grow up and it would have probably, he probably would have been a completely different man if he'd had to deal with that his whole life with this mother.
So in a way, he, you know, he has a very positive outlook on it, which he does on a lot of things.
You know, he's a very upbeat, optimistic guy.
steve bannon
What do you tell us about the man?
You spent more time than probably anybody that's not in his own personal circle in this.
He didn't really know you.
You were on the show.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
He knew you as a person with Cohen Media.
What did you find out about him?
What's the Chadwick Moore takeaways on this guy's journey?
unidentified
Well, he's always been this kind of scamp, you know, this rapscallion who likes to just stir things up.
But he's become, I think, like so many people, much more galvanized in his political opinions and really came into his own in recent years.
As you pointed out, his biggest break was the Iraq War.
He was a pro-supporter of the war in Iraq.
He went to Iraq to report for Esquire, and that is what changed his thinking.
He saw the horrible situation that was happening there, and the effects that basically our colonialism was having in Iraq at the time.
That was his big break from neoconservatism and Beltway conservatism.
And from then, he just has sort of become, as I said, more galvanized on certain issues.
He goes to great lengths to remain humble.
One of my favorite lines in the book is when he says his job on cable news is, I am God.
If that's not your persona, then you don't have a job.
I am right.
You are wrong.
You are here to listen to my opinions.
But he makes an effort every night to see the stars on his way into the studio.
He said because he wanted to be reminded of he's not God.
steve bannon
Explain that to people.
The methodology or the modality that you have in cable news, there's a certain construct.
What is that construct?
unidentified
It's that I am right, you are wrong, you are listening to me, I am God, and rightly so, Tucker pointed out, you don't have a career if that's not the There's much more gravitas to Tucker.
persona jr giving on air uh... and so he's aware of that but he a lot of mentors throughout his life is father included to tell him you know to remain humble and to don't don't believe his own bs too much he really sticks with that goes to great efforts to do that and he's you know so kind to everybody needs is much more gravitas to talk about what does it make him better with against talker when he was a daily caller andrew had died and i took over by part what he's got gravitas today Yeah.
steve bannon
Maybe didn't have that.
I realize people get that maybe more as they get older, but there's something definitely changed in him.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
That you can tell.
What is that?
And how did that come about?
unidentified
I think the country changed, and I think the country changed in a way that really lined up with his sort of civil libertarian You know, he was on Fox News, I think one of his greatest, and he had the largest audience of 25- to 54-year-old Democrats in all of cable news.
More of them were watching his show than MSNBC.
steve bannon
Which, they're reporting that Jesse Walden, and I love Jesse, good guy, but Jesse doesn't have, didn't bring it over.
unidentified
No, no, he had about a fourth of what Tucker was getting in the key demographic.
steve bannon
Were those ratings on Monday night not what the Murdochs wanted to see?
unidentified
No, not at all.
PFI sources in Fox are saying they were very, not happy, is what I heard from executives at Fox.
steve bannon
Because Tucker is...
I would argue impossible to replace right now.
I don't say that about many people.
For what he brings, the intelligence, the empathy, and his understanding of the moment of where the country is, you can't replace that.
unidentified
Yeah, Fox seems to think that they just make money out of thin air, that they're not actually producing a product for a consumer.
They've always believed that it's the brand that matters and not the talent.
But, I mean, it's a difficult job, and it's a rare talent, and Tucker's especially a rare talent, and I would put it in the vein of Rush Limbaugh or someone.
He's not going to be replaced anytime soon, or maybe in decades to come.
And Fox doesn't seem to understand that or care about it.
They seem to think that he's as replaceable as, you know, any other person they've let go or anyone who's still on the network.
steve bannon
In your reporting, in the book, and afterwards, Do you believe that one of the keys to Dominion's deal was it wasn't just money but that Tucker Carlson had to go?
unidentified
It was someone, either someone on the board that was using this as a good time.
To get rid of him?
Yeah.
They could say the reason would be to set an example, to make an example out of Tucker, you know, to get everyone else in line.
We're going to get rid of our biggest guy.
steve bannon
I mean, don't go off the plantation.
unidentified
Don't go off the plantation.
So whether it was Dominion or whether it was Paul Ryan, someone on the board at Fox, someone who's invested heavily in Fox.
Obviously we know all these big corporations that own a big stake in Fox.
It's very clear that if it wasn't a condition in the settlement, then it was obviously someone using this as an opportunity.
It was political, we know this for sure.
steve bannon
By the way, we're going to have one of the publishers in the book on the show tomorrow after there's an event tonight.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Right?
There's an event tonight, the Washington kickoff.
We had the, I guess the national one at Palm Beach the other night.
And then I hope you're going to join us back on Friday.
We want to spend more time on this if we can, even if we have to do it by Skype.
Now he's looking at forming his own network.
He's got every opportunity in the world, given he had a show that was quite unique.
Do the Murdochs, you think, from a business perspective, fully appreciate what they lost when Tucker Carlson was so rudely dismissed?
unidentified
I haven't met them, but from what I hear from everyone, I can't imagine they're the sort of people who have that kind of self-reflection or could admit where they've made such a huge mistake.
steve bannon
It's pure succession.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
steve bannon
Carry on to the next block.
Tucker gave a talk, a speech, at the Kennedy Center for, I think, the 50th anniversary of the Heritage.
Dr. Roberts had this huge thing.
He was the keynote.
People were kind of shocked.
They said it was magnificent because he talked about the spiritual side.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
We know that Rupert Murdoch's fiancée had told him at a dinner When the family really realized she was Evangelical Christian, that she thought that Tucker Carlson was actually providential.
That it was providential.
In the Murdochs, that's when the sons go, what is she talking about?
That's when the machinery started to go, this guy's gotta go.
Does his spiritual awakening, you think, have any tie-in for why the Murdochs, who are obviously secular humanists at best, got rid of him?
unidentified
So a lot of people are saying that and think that, and it could be one of those things that was just another thing they could tack on to why they don't like him.
And during that speech, which was the weekend before his show was taken off the air, he was very explicitly in framing his views of the current political situation as one of good versus evil.
And he talks about good versus evil a lot.
I've heard that that kind of language makes the Murdochs very uncomfortable.
And you rightly, that Rupert Murdoch... You know why?
steve bannon
Because I think they're on the evil side of the equation.
unidentified
I may know it.
Okay, Chadwick Moore is the author.
steve bannon
The book is a must-get.
Tucker by Chadwick Moore.
Chadwick's gonna stick with us.
Tomorrow we're gonna have the publisher.
Friday, hopefully Chadwick's back as this thing starts to explode.
Short commercial break.
Chadwick Moore.
The book is Tucker.
The inside story on Tucker Carlson.
Everything you want to know.
unidentified
Short break.
Back in a moment.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
Okay, the reason this book, as they pull in, the reason this book is important, and you're going to cherish it, is not just about Tucker.
It's about a, it's about, it's an extraordinary story of an extraordinary man.
It's the journey of the conservative movement and it's the journey of the country, all in one.
And it's a fabulous, great, you're a great writer.
That's what I love about it.
The book moves.
You don't want to put it down.
Which is, I think, the key.
The key to, I tell writers, the key for a writer is to make sure they turn the page.
unidentified
Right.
Right.
steve bannon
You've got to have them turn the page.
They've got to be engaged in it.
So Chadwick, you've done an extraordinary job.
This Daily Mail, and every day to the book comes, I think, August 1st, officially.
You can pre-order it now.
There are going to be news drops every couple of days.
Daily Mail's got a story day.
Tell me about that story.
unidentified
Yeah, it's a part of the book about Tucker's friendship with Hunter Biden, which I don't think a lot of people know about.
And a lot of it's centered around sobriety.
So Tucker's been sober since he was, uh, since 2002.
And, uh, he and Hunter talked a lot about sobriety.
Uh, and, you know, Tucker framed it to me as, as, you know, there are two types of sober people in the world.
There's people who are grateful every day to be sober.
And Tucker is certainly one of those.
Uh, he's not tempted.
There's alcohol all over his house.
Uh, but, and then there's the other kind who's always just one cocktail away from a total bender and that's Hunter Biden.
And, you know, it's funny to hear Tucker talk.
He's owned the Bidens forever, just being in D.C.
forever.
They were neighbors when he lived in D.C.
And to talk about the Bidens he knew versus the Bidens we see today and saying, you know, these were Catholics.
They weren't anti-gun.
They weren't pro-abortion.
And now to watch Joe just be this, you know, trans advocate and whatever have you.
But Tucker has a soft spot for Hunter, for anyone, I think, who struggles, especially with addiction.
He hires a lot of people who are ex-addicts or in recovery.
Maybe.
And I think that I sort of noticed his reporting on Paul Pelosi was similarly kind.
I think it seems like Pelosi might have a problem.
Maybe I don't know.
But Tucker seemed very kind when he was reporting on his antics.
steve bannon
And there are going to be other news drops on this book.
As you read the book, you'll see all the other news drops as we go.
The book's out officially when?
unidentified
August 1st, officially.
steve bannon
I want the Warren Posse to drive this into the top 100 right now, so make sure you go to Amazon.com.
I guess you can go to All Seasons Press also.
What's your social media?
You're back with us on Friday.
What's your social media?
unidentified
It's at Chadwick underscore more.
steve bannon
And you're doing this event tonight at a location that's close to his heart.
He would have lunch there every day?
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, we are.
You were invited, but you have to wear a tie, so that's why you're not going to come.
Which is fine, I understand.
steve bannon
It was a struggle.
I was actually going to wear a tie for Tucker, but we're doing the Bedminster thing now.
unidentified
Oh, convenient.
steve bannon
How convenient.
I told him to pick any day, but it really ought to be the 19th.
I did the one in Palm Beach.
Fantastic book.
A great read.
Tucker, go order it right now.
You're back with us on Friday.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you, sir.
Okay, Mike Lindell, NBC News is reporting that the illegitimate Attorney General in Arizona, who really lost to Abe Hamadei, is going to charge, looking to charge the alternative electors.
They've done this in Michigan, multiple felony charges.
Against people whose average age is 72 is that because are they criminalizing now are they now criminalizing?
Supporting President Trump and wanting free and fair elections, sir A hundred percent.
mike lindell
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steve bannon
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What's the latest on the site?
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mike lindell
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steve bannon
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Hopefully, if you make it to Bedminster, we'll have you on live this afternoon.
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mike lindell
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steve bannon
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mike lindell
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Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
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unidentified
Glory!
Glory!
Hallelujah!
Glory!
Glory!
Hallelujah!
While God is marching on!
Glory, glory, hallelujah.
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