July 11, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| And the people on MSNBC who made fun of me when I said we had an informant that was missing, they should feel like fools right now. | ||
| They are fools. This is someone that knew about CEFC in detail long before the laptop ever became public. | ||
| So we feel that this is a very credible witness. | ||
| We feel that this is someone that we need to talk to in our investigation, someone we will communicate with in our investigation. | ||
| We're going to request the notes from the FBI meeting, from the FBI. That is forthcoming. | ||
| We want to know why the FBI... You'll be not surprised at all to learn, Joe and Mika, that the response from Republicans in the last couple of days has been that the Justice Department is targeting Gal Luft, that the Justice Department is weaponized. | ||
| They're trying to silence this man by pursuing these charges against him because he has all the answers to the alleged Biden crime family. | ||
| Well, of course, this is, again, Willie, I mean, they attacked the FBI for trying to get nuclear secrets back in safe holding. | ||
| They attacked the FBI for trying to get secret Iranian war plans back into safe holding place. | ||
| It's just, it's the latest example, and I hope they all, I mean, I hope all of these people do expose themselves in supporting if this is who they really are. | ||
| I mean, If they want to support a guy that is illegally dealing with China and illegally smuggling Iranian oil, illegally being an arms dealer, I think that exposes them even more for who they are. | ||
| People who don't give a damn about this country, people who don't give a damn about law enforcement, people who are going to attack law enforcement. | ||
| When they actually try to do their jobs. | ||
| It's just really, I mean, but if there is a remake of The Fugitive, who is it? | ||
| Tommy Lee Jones, who is the guy in The Fugitive? | ||
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Yeah, at the end of this... | |
| Yeah, at the end of this, you're gonna have Harrison Ford playing Guy Luft, is that his name? | ||
| And they're gonna be in that water drain, and Tommy Lee Jones is gonna say, Harrison Ford is gonna say, let me go, and Guy Luft is gonna say, you're guilty, and Harrison Ford is gonna go... | ||
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Yeah, I am. I mean, there's no, it's just, it's really bad. | |
| While we're at it, meanwhile, the federal prosecutor... | ||
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Did you know that this guy smuggled oil, arraigning oil illegally? | |
| Welcome, Tuesday, 11 July, Year of Allure 2023. | ||
| Of course, one of the whistleblowers. | ||
| With all the infiltration and betrayal of our country, By the Biden regime, other members of the Biden regime, all of it. | ||
| Of course, they've got to go after violating the Foreign Agents Act. | ||
| They've got to go after one of the lead people who are going to testify, Gal Luft. | ||
| We'll get more into that. | ||
| So Congress is back, and it is packed. | ||
| You've got all these issues with the appropriations process, a letter from the House Freedom Caucus saying, hey, we're digging in hard the letter that we were able to break here over the weekend and talk to you about on Saturday. | ||
| We had Matt Rosendale on. | ||
| Also, these investigations, the convergence of kind of Judiciary Committee, Ways and Means Committee, and oversight on the Hunter Biden, the cover-up for Hunter Biden exactly went on with the Biden crime family. | ||
| So that's all converging into one. | ||
| You've also got the National Defense Authorization Act about the awoken weaponized part of that. | ||
| Hearing right now on, as we had last night as a preview, with Colonel West on the new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. | ||
| But I want to bring in and I want to read first, who's a very known to our audience here in the war room, Congressman Anna Paulina Luna. | ||
| But Time magazine has a massive story that will be in the print magazine, I think, in a week or two. But it's up online right now. | ||
| And it talks about, as you remember, Congressman Luna's brave effort to make sure that shift was held accountable for all the lies and misrepresentations he had done at. | ||
| This magazine article starts off with a meeting on the floor of the House where she's talking to Mike Turner. | ||
| She's not going to back down. | ||
| He was one of the guys that wanted to stop. | ||
| She's determined. But this opening paragraph I want to read before I bring her in. | ||
| This resolution against Schiff was a milestone for Congressman Luna, marking her emergence from the mass of recently arrived GOP insurgents. | ||
| To some, she's a dangerously effective new version of the millennial MAGA politicians ready to tear down the institutions of government in pursuit of an ultra-conservative revolution. | ||
| To others, she's something more, the vanguard of a potentially significant turn in American politics. | ||
| Luna is less a politician who parlayed her seat in Congress into a huge online following like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, or AOC than the other way around, the first social media influencer to parlay an online audience into a seat in Congress. | ||
| Congressman Luna, give me your assessment. | ||
| This timepiece is pretty monumental for a freshman in Congress. | ||
| Tell us how this came about after your fight to hold Schiff accountable. | ||
| Well, I think so. This piece was in the works since really January. | ||
| I think everyone here remembers that crazy hit piece from the Washington Post. | ||
| And really, the reporter started digging into my background and investigating. | ||
| And then as he continued to follow my story, I think there's like five hours of on-record interviews with him. | ||
| They talked to, I think, two dozen of my family members and friends. | ||
| But ultimately, it ended up really, I think, culminating with the whole shift moment. | ||
| And that was, you know, several weeks back when we ended up censoring him. | ||
| And so what Time wanted to show is really, like, who am I? Because there's been so much information, both good and bad, that has circulated false and correct information. | ||
| And so really, in doing the deep dive, it was just supposed to start out, I think, as an online piece. | ||
| And then they decided to send it to print. | ||
| And as you can see with kind of the reporting, everything I said was factual. | ||
| I never made it up. And I think that that's really kind of the anomaly is that, you know, right now people want normal people elected to office that are going to fight for them. | ||
| And so far I've kept every single one of my campaign promises that I made on the campaign trail. | ||
| And now you're seeing kind of the fruits of our labor as we're moving forward into the second half of this first session. | ||
| For people who follow politics and follow the direction of the country, two things are going on. | ||
| One is the presidential primary, and quite frankly, this primary of the Republican Party. | ||
| We're going to have Raheem on in a little while to go through it, and also Darren Beattie will join us. | ||
| It's a little – I think it's kind of a sideshow because I don't think this primary with the Keebler-Ells versus Trump is really a serious primary. | ||
| By the way, Fox News has got an exclusive story with the entire Michigan congressional delegation has come out and endorsed Trump. | ||
| There's a morning consult poll. | ||
| DeSantis is now down to 17%. | ||
| There's a whole raft of this stuff. | ||
| But the real action and the real drive in the direction of the country is in the House of Representatives. | ||
| And Congressman Luna, you sit in a unique position because you remember the House Freedom Caucus, one of these fire breathers. | ||
| There's two things. I want to make sure the audience understands. | ||
| There's two things converging. | ||
| One is these sets of investigations to hold the Biden regime accountable. | ||
| And you're on oversight, probably the central apparatus of that. | ||
| Then there's all these fights on since McCarthy gave up on the debt ceiling. | ||
| There's this huge fight now on appropriations process in House Freedom Caucus members and others of the 71 that voted against the debt ceiling debacle saying, hey, this appropriations process has got to be real. | ||
| We're just not going to be performative. | ||
| Just put it in perspective of where we are, you think, right now as you guys are coming back from the 4th of July and You've got the August recess coming up, the fiscal year ends September 30th. | ||
| Just walk us through the battlefield, both on the investigation side and on these huge fights over spending. | ||
| Well, first of all, starting out on the investigation, you know, that segment that you played earlier where Morning Joe was basically making a poor attempt at roasting the whistleblower. | ||
| You know, the whistleblower was just indicted by the DOJ only a few days after making that crazy, groundbreaking testimony with the New York Post. | ||
| And so I think that it's very evident that the DOJ, which we already know, is being weaponized to protect the Biden family and their interests, especially the president currently, But aside from that, you have this appropriations fight, which typically, from what I gather and understand, they will push it towards Thanksgiving and then right before Christmas. | ||
| And then what we don't want is an omnibus. | ||
| And so what's happening right now is we had an initial set of negotiations that we set the outline and platform for in January when we had the speakers' negotiations. | ||
| And we're going to ensure that that is actually being followed through with. | ||
| I understand that the negotiations, I did not vote to increase the debt ceiling. | ||
| I think that, you know, we could have done a lot better. | ||
| And I think everyone watching the show agrees. | ||
| But ultimately, this is now our toolkit and the way that we're going to ensure that we're not going to be running off the cliff with this fiscal ridiculous spending. | ||
| So you're of the part that says, hey, we can't just do it again. | ||
| We can't have a CR. Because you can see the timescale of you're running out of time, right? | ||
| What they want to do is come back after the August recess and say, hey, we don't have the time, so here's what we need to do. | ||
| We need just a CR. We just need a couple of months. | ||
| We've got to have a CR the third week of September. | ||
| It gets you past the fiscal year. | ||
| and then there'll be some sort of fight and some sort of pro wrestling and then between Thanksgiving and Christmas and say hey we gotta get home for Christmas so we got a fund next year you'll have an omnibus. You and your colleagues are sitting there and you guys are adamant that that's not going to happen? Correct. No history. | ||
| If you don't, it repeats itself. | ||
| So that's what we're doing is we're avoiding that. | ||
| And frankly, I think we had a discussion among my colleagues, and we're very much so in the mindset of if we have to do Thanksgiving in Washington, D.C., we'll be doing Thanksgiving in Washington, but we're trying to avoid that. | ||
| So ultimately, we're going to basically use our toolkit. | ||
| We're being polite about it, but we're expecting our end of the deal to be upheld. | ||
| And that's exactly why you're seeing not just the 20, but more than the 20 come forward to say, hey, we can't do this crazy spending. | ||
| Clearly the Democrats and the Biden EPA agenda won on this debt ceiling negotiation. | ||
| And by the way, let's talk about the fact that they are literally sending some crazy equipment to Ukraine and that needs to be addressed too. | ||
| So we're going to be addressing all that stuff and it's going to start this week. | ||
| Just give us the mindset. | ||
| Here's what I think the audience has a very hard time. | ||
| Give us the mindset of people that are voted in by Republicans in these districts, and particularly these super-red districts, that are not on board with what you just said. | ||
| How can there be any split in the caucus about this, or the conference? | ||
| Can you walk us through that, how what you guys let is so logical. | ||
| We can't continue to play these games. | ||
| We've got to do this. How can some of your colleagues in the conference disagree with that? | ||
| I think that, you know, everyone represents a different area. | ||
| But what I find is a lot of people in general, and this goes into the whole information war that we're constantly fighting and why social media is so important, is that a lot of people are unaware of the policy implementation, what's actually happening in Washington. | ||
| They'll see a clip, for example, on MSNBC, and they take that as truth. | ||
| In actuality, if you actually peel back the layers and you realize what's happening from a mechanical perspective in Washington, it's a whole lot different. | ||
| And so when you sit down and you use social media or you have these conversations with people, they kind of have that aha moment and they understand it. | ||
| And from what I'm understanding, because I get calls to my office and I get letters to my office from around the country. | ||
| And people are saying, you know, we really appreciate what you're doing because you're a normal person. | ||
| We understand what you're fighting for, but you're also explaining it in a way that we can understand. | ||
| So I think that if people made their voices more heard to their representatives and were more vocal about it, that I think maybe these people wouldn't be as inclined to vote the The way that they're voting for some of these policies and changes. | ||
| But as you saw, the messaging is super important. | ||
| And so I'll be the first person if I see something that's not true, or it's not totally honest, I'm going to go online and I'm going to make that known so people know exactly what's happening. | ||
| Congressman, can you just hold for a minute? | ||
| We're going to take a short break. I just want to hold you for a couple of minutes. | ||
| I want to talk about the cluster bombs to Ukraine. | ||
| Zelensky is now saying NATO is absurd for not letting them in. | ||
| And also, I want to just follow up on these investigations, particularly oversight, since the timing of the indictment of Gal Loft is very questionable given this explosive, as you said, interview he gave for the New York Post from Miranda Devine and her team over there. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Congressman, Anna... Paulina Luna. | ||
| And she's got a major piece coming out by Eric Corlatesa in Time Magazine. | ||
| It's online now. | ||
| We've got it up. Everybody, Captain Bannon, Grace are pushing it out. | ||
| We've got it. We're going everywhere with it. | ||
| It's a must-read. | ||
| Congressman Luna, when we return. | ||
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We will fight till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there's no more left. | ||
| Let's take down the C.C.P. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The President was aware, or was made aware of the fact that the shelf life of cluster weapons is a long, long time. | ||
| And the dangers posed to the public five, ten years from now about cluster weapons and the impediments left on the ground, the particles left on the ground. | ||
| That's a tough decision to make, no? | ||
| Oh, very tough. And the president said so himself. | ||
| This was not an easy decision, and it's not something that he did quickly or without a lot of careful thought. | ||
| I think we would make two points here to yours, Mike. | ||
| One is that the dud rate, the failure rate of the cluster munitions that we're going to be providing is exceedingly low, less than two and a half percent. | ||
| By comparison, just to make the point, The Russian dud rate of the cluster munitions they're using in Ukraine is about 30 to 40 percent. | ||
| So far more duds are going to be on the battlefield. | ||
| Number two, we're going to work with the Ukrainians, and we are already, but we're certainly going to work with them through and past this war after it's over to work on demining efforts to make it as safe as possible. | ||
| And the last thing I'd say, Mike, is that while, yes, There is an inherent potential danger to civilians on the battlefield once the fighting is over because of these duds, these bomblets that didn't explode. | ||
| I think we can all agree that the risk to Ukrainian civilians is far greater if the Ukrainian counteroffensive fails, if they run out of artillery shells, if they can't defend their own territory. | ||
| They are being killed every day. | ||
| By Iranian drones and cruise missiles. | ||
| And yes, cluster munitions that the Russians are using indiscriminately. | ||
| The Ukrainians are using these to defend their territory, to win back their sovereignty. | ||
| Okay. In NATO, where Zelensky said, you know, it's a huge headline in Newsweek magazine. | ||
| This is absurd that you're not letting this in right away. | ||
| The escalation continues now with these deadly cluster bombs. | ||
| Congressman Luna, your thoughts, ma'am? | ||
| You know, this is incredibly crazy that we're even having this conversation. | ||
| I co-sponsored a resolution with Representative Jacobs and Representative Gates to actually prevent these cluster bombs from going to Ukraine. | ||
| Not only are they highly dangerous for civilians and children, but exactly as mentioned, even on this mainstream media network that you just played the clip of, I mean, there is a potential that these will be unexploded ordnance and that there will have to be a massive demining effort afterwards. | ||
| So not only is it crazy, but let me just tell you about a conversation that I had with the Speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament when I was in Poland on a CODEL. | ||
| They want to not only demand that Americans pay $200 every single day, every American in the country, because it is our quote unquote obligation, according to Ukraine, so that they can defend the Western world from Russia. | ||
| But they're also saying that they want F-35s. | ||
| And if that isn't crazy enough, they're saying that after Russia leaves Crimea, which is where their head is at, they're going to potentially privatize and create a mercenary army similar to the Wagner Group. | ||
| So that is the mindset of Ukraine. | ||
| Why are we giving them more munitions? | ||
| Meanwhile, we have the Hunter Biden investigation that was tied to, remember, Brisma and a Ukrainian oligarch. | ||
| Are we supposed to be there? | ||
| Absolutely not. Do we need to continue to fund this war? | ||
| Absolutely not. And that's exactly why I'm sponsoring this resolution. | ||
| Hang on. You spoke when you were on the CODEL, which is congressional delegations go over to get more information. | ||
| You went to Poland. You met with and talked with the Speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament, and they said that it's America's obligation to continue to fund this every day to the hundreds of billions of dollars. | ||
| Also, it wasn't F-16s. | ||
| He says he wants F-35s. | ||
| Steve, he told this to an entire table, a bipartisan delegation of both myself, other Florida representatives, and absolutely, and that's why I believe that they're pushing to join NATO, because first of all, that's not even realistic, one, but two, that's our top tier equipment, right? Premier, and yet they want us to hand it on over. | ||
| And with this administration, I believe that they would try to push for that, which is why they're pushing to join NATO. But I want to remind everyone that, remember, Ukraine had an option to join NATO, and they didn't. | ||
| So they want to get housing insurance essentially after their house flooded, and that's not our problem. | ||
| We don't represent Ukraine. | ||
| We represent the United States. | ||
| And to have a foreign government to say that it's the obligation of every American to pay $200 a day? | ||
| I don't think so. The speaker on this one, the speaker has come. | ||
| He said no more supplemental, this $100 billion. | ||
| Just give our audience a heads up. | ||
| Is this going to be a massive fight that's coming down in the next couple of weeks about this Ukraine supplement or more funding for Ukraine outside the NDAA, outside everything else? | ||
| Is the Ukraine situation because they're going to be out of money here quickly? | ||
| How's that going to play in the house? | ||
| Well, I'm telling you right now, there's a lot of people that are getting frustrated and they're tired of it. | ||
| And I think that that's going to be probably one of our top issues. | ||
| You know, I've been able to talk to other members that you would maybe consider more moderate, but they feel the same way. | ||
| And ultimately, there is no oversight. | ||
| We just saw there was a massive miscalculation with the funding that went to Ukraine. | ||
| Into the billions of dollars, and yet we're supposed to be sending more to them. | ||
| And you see what they're saying. | ||
| You see the almost cavalier attitude that they have with an American government, government officials. | ||
| And I'm not down for that. | ||
| I really am kind of getting ticked off at the DOD and a lot of the people that are sitting on the appropriations that are advocating for this. | ||
| Because guess what? We're in a massive deficit. | ||
| They're sending money and they're sending equipment to Ukraine that could potentially get us involved in World War III. And mind you, there's no end in sight. | ||
| And I know that because I spoke directly to the Speaker of the Ukrainian Parliament. | ||
| And he agreed that this thing's going to go on forever. | ||
| Look, you're not conspiracy theorists. | ||
| We pride ourselves here in the war room of not being conspiracy theorists. | ||
| But we also say there's no coincidences. | ||
| You kind of sit in a unique position. | ||
| Not only are you very well informed on Ukraine and the situation there and the geopolitics and the finance of it, you also sit on oversight. | ||
| Does it strike you as odd? | ||
| That the Biden regime goes out of their way to fund Ukraine and it looks like a lot of your efforts on oversight either ties to the Chinese Communist Party or somehow money coming out of Ukraine. | ||
| Does that strike you as a coincidence? | ||
| No, I don't believe in coincidence, especially when I have facts in front of me. | ||
| I think it's incredibly odd that you have this administration literally causing the United States to hemorrhage money to give to Ukraine, which, to be quite honest with you, had it not been for the United States, I don't know that they would have the military capabilities to actually take on Russia. | ||
| But then aside from that, if you mention it, all of a sudden you're a Russian sympathizer. | ||
| I don't like Putin. | ||
| I don't have an invested interest in protecting Russia. | ||
| I love the United States, and that's all I care about. | ||
| And so it's this crazy kind of debacle that's been created where you have the administration tied to Ukraine, the big guy. | ||
| We have evidence coming from the FBI that they're actively working to prevent us from seeing that oversight. | ||
| And yet, at the same time, you have this massive funding war that's happening in Ukraine, and then you see people advocating for it. | ||
| Meanwhile, you literally have the potential of civilians and children dying because of these uninformed decisions by some of my colleagues. | ||
| And it's really frustrating. | ||
| Last thing, Congressman Comer, oversight is the tip of the spear in all this. | ||
| Are you guys anticipating you're going to lance the boil on this this week or next week? | ||
| Yeah, I just actually heard the interview with Representative Comer. | ||
| They're going to be requesting all the information from the FBI investigations and sit down with that whistleblower, Mr. | ||
| I believe his name is Loft. | ||
| And so once I get in, yeah, Loft, we're going to be getting in today and we'll have that briefing from him. | ||
| But I mean, it is a slow process because of the fact that we're stonewalled every step of the way, but we are making moves in the right direction. | ||
| And I think it's incredibly important for everyone to remember that you get the information out. | ||
| We're not prosecutors, but we have tools in our toolkit. | ||
| And so you're going to start to see that play out. | ||
| I do believe that there needs to be an effort, though, because of the fact that the director of the FBI has actively stonewalled a congressional inquiry into removing him from his position via the Holman rule. | ||
| And I think that that's going to happen. | ||
| We'll see. You're saying that the FBI director is stonewalling this, and if you guys have to, you'll use the Holman rule to go after the director of the FBI, and you use the term stonewall a congressional oversight investigation? | ||
| Yeah, he has no right to do it, and that's what we would have done in the past, so why is it now any different? | ||
| I'm telling you, I've had other conversations, and people are sick of it, to include the chairman. | ||
| Congressman, social media, your website, how do folks follow you? | ||
| You can follow me on my official account to see what we're doing in Washington at Rep Luna. | ||
| Personal accounts at Real Ana Paulina. | ||
| And if you want to help out and ship in, Google it. | ||
| Duck, duck, go it. Congressman Ana Paulina Luna, thank you for coming on and spending the time this morning. | ||
| I appreciate it. Thanks, guys. | ||
| The Time Magazine piece, I want everybody to read it. | ||
| One of the reasons it's important, it talks about signal, not noise, that Anna Paulina Luna represents something quite different in American politics. | ||
| And I think they're absolutely correct. | ||
| In fact, the writer for Time Magazine is one of the writers that followed Carrie Lickrand and others, has a very good feel. | ||
| For what's happening in this conservative movement and has really nailed it in this piece. | ||
| So it's a piece that everybody should read and please share. | ||
| Pretty harsh terms right there. | ||
| Let me bring it. Rahim, I only got a minute on this side. | ||
| Give me your assessment of Anna Paulina Luna's oversight that FBI director stonewalling and they've had enough of it. | ||
| Give me your assessment before we go to break. | ||
| Well, I just think it's extraordinary that when you have a whistleblower like this, not only do you have a weaponized DOJ freely being able to go after this guy without the media actually reporting the truth, which is that the DOJ is seeking 100 years in jail for a man who says that he's got the goods on the Biden crime family. | ||
| That is unprecedented. | ||
| 100 years in jail for whistleblowing. | ||
| Can you imagine that happening under a Republican president? | ||
| Extraordinary. Okay, Rahim, we got a lot to report. | ||
| Rahim's got an amazing analysis of the collapse of the DeSantis presidential effort. | ||
| The signal there is that it's even in more trouble than the polling shows, and the polling shows a free fall. | ||
| Morning Consult this morning, I think, on a national basis has DeSantis now at 17%. | ||
| Rahim's got – we're going to get into that. | ||
| Also, an amazing story – By the reporter Welch over there on exactly what the Chinese think of the trip that the Secretary of Treasury made over there as they've responded now in force. | ||
| Okay, we're going to get to all of it. We've got Darren Beattie. | ||
| We have Natalie. We're going to get into all of this. | ||
| Rahim George is on the other side. | ||
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We're on and I will fight to the end, just watch and see. | |
| It's all started, everything's begun, and you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP! | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there is no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP! | ||
| Who's your host? | ||
| Stephen K. Van Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Governor DeSantis has turned down going to the Turning Point Action Conference, ATCON, that will be held this weekend. | ||
| Everybody, there's still some tickets available, and there's going to be like, I don't know, 5,000 or 6,000 people there. | ||
| But we want everybody in the general area that can make it, definitely should make it. | ||
| I've never seen a lineup like this in my life. | ||
| It's got not just President Trump, it's got a couple of the major other... | ||
| Folks running for the presidency. | ||
| Also, you've got, you know, Tucker Carlson. | ||
| You've got Senator Hawley. | ||
| Obviously got Charlie Kirk, Jack. | ||
| But the list of people is incredible. | ||
| Saturday and Sunday. I'll be speaking on Sunday. | ||
| And it'll be a fire-breathing barn burner. | ||
| That I commit to you. | ||
| But the amazing thing, and so I want everybody to go... | ||
| At Con Turning Point Action to get your tickets, get your discount, get your tickets, and get there. | ||
| Very important. This is the mid-summer kind of action conference. | ||
| The stunning thing, Raheem, is that Ron DeSantis turned it down. | ||
| I mean, I don't understand this. | ||
| It's like they're afraid he's going to get booed. | ||
| He's not going to get booed. The Charlie Kirk people and the young people that come there, these are the backbone of the activist community. | ||
| It's stunning. And I actually put up last night when I heard this. | ||
| When a statement came out, I put it up that his staff ought to be... | ||
| I have never seen... | ||
| DeSantis is not... | ||
| He's been a good governor, I think. | ||
| I keep saying this. He's just not ready to run for president. | ||
| But I've never seen more money. | ||
| This is worse than the Jeb Bush fiasco. | ||
| Because in Jeb Bush, he really didn't have anything there. | ||
| DeSantis has got the makings maybe of something, but I think he's destroying it every day. | ||
| The people around him, and I take it from the donors, to the operatives, to the consultants, to the influencers, and quite frankly, even the wife. | ||
| And I only mention the wife not as a wife, as she's the chief strategist. | ||
| But this thing right now, so he cancels that. | ||
| She's in Iowa. | ||
| You know, with these mamas for DeSantis showing she's got more personality than he does, right? | ||
| Now they're in desperate mode that she's campaigning by herself. | ||
| But you nailed it on the head. | ||
| I've heard from all the donors exactly what you put in to this article. | ||
| So I want to go to National Pulse and your political reporting, your sourcing is great. | ||
| Tell us what's going on in New York in the next couple of days, this panic meeting of Ron DeSantis going back to the money sources. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. Earlier this morning, Charlie Gasparino puts out a tweet that confirms what I've been hearing for some time, which is that, as you say, the donor class that is heretofore underwritten Almost the entirety of the DeSantis operation, as we've talked about before, right? | ||
| He's not running a campaign that's funded on lots of small-dollar donations. | ||
| He's running a campaign that's predominantly funded by billionaires and billionaires with extremely interesting business connections, let's say. | ||
| A lot of China in there, some Iran thrown in for good measure, lots of globalism, lots of transhumanist stuff. | ||
| And these donors are now at their wit's end, as you would rightfully be when you watch a campaign go from, yeah, we're shadow campaigning at first, Then we're going to actually rush to get in the race, and we're not going to do a proper event to launch this. | ||
| We're going to do a donor conference at the Four Seasons in Miami, and then we're going to do a Twitter space. | ||
| Well, the Twitter space doesn't work. | ||
| We could go through bit by bit by bit, but everybody's watched along, aghast as I have. | ||
| No, no, but hang on. | ||
| Hang on. I want to go back to what you just said because it's very important because you were all over this at the time as we were. | ||
| This is a guy that has a fairly compelling story of being a middle-class kid, working-class kid, goes to Yale on a baseball. | ||
| Basically, they don't really give scholarships, but you get in. | ||
| He played baseball, goes to Harvard Law, serves his country, all that. | ||
| Instead of kicking off in his hometown, Remember, it was a two or three day event. | ||
| I said, this is bizarre. And they're bragging about this. | ||
| He has this donor event where they're just sitting there and he's just doing donors all day long for like three days and then dialing and smiling to other donors. | ||
| And then this cutesy, and this is a pure David Saxon. | ||
| This is the mentality of the donor class. | ||
| Hey, let's do a tour of spaces. | ||
| They so miss the mark of what America looks for when a politician kind of, and by the way, you can do, you don't have to play by the rules, but you, in the form and the content of the context of it, particularly when you're trying to be a populist and run in a party that is now a populist nationalist party. | ||
| Why do you go to the global elites and hang out with them, all these globalists, and then these tech guys who everybody hates, particularly the David Saxes of the world, right? | ||
| tries to deem, oh I'm a little bit conservative like you know, it's all phony. | ||
| It's totally phony. Sachs is the guy in back of the Silicon Valley Bank bailout. | ||
| So they're anti-populism. | ||
| Why does that happen? Because that shows you the real true meaning of the campaign, does it not, Raheem? | ||
| So what you're looking at there is instead of a battle between the current oligarchy in the United States and the people, what the DeSantis camp think they're doing is just trying to develop a new set of oligarchs in America. | ||
| The tech and Silicon Valley oligarchs versus, you know, the administrative state oligarchy that currently exists and currently exists to prop up the media establishment, to prop up the progressive left and its globalist intentions. | ||
| And so when we talk about, you know, people are very kind to DeSantis. | ||
| I think I'm still too kind to DeSantis. | ||
| Part of me just wants to sort of scream now, you've blown it. | ||
| It's done. You're even done being a good governor at this point. | ||
| Because what Floridians are going to see after this mess is all over is this guy who abandoned them at the behest of his donors to go and run a fatuous campaign For an office that was never quite in his reach. | ||
| And again, you're being so kind. | ||
| You say, oh, you know, he's got this background and this story. | ||
| But if you actually get into the story, it's very, very thinly layered. | ||
| It's a very thin layer of stuff. | ||
| He writes in his own book, right? | ||
| That, yeah, he may be from Florida, but he feels more like Ohio. | ||
| Well, hold on. Like, you can't do that and be, like, so inauthentic in that way. | ||
| It's like Donald Trump showing up to Iowa in a set of overalls, right? | ||
| It's just not right. | ||
| And, okay, so back to my previous point. | ||
| You go bit by bit by bit. | ||
| Every major campaign moment has been a devastating failure because of this mentality, because of this mindset, and because of the people who are around him. | ||
| You talk about a staff shake-up. | ||
| That is absolutely going to happen, and I'm kind of well informed of the fact that it's sort of already started to happen in there. | ||
| So DeSantis is now going to go to Southampton, New York, Amongst his donors and say to them, listen, I hear you. | ||
| I get it. We're here playing the quote unquote long game. | ||
| Now, again, the problem with that is you look at the delegate forecast predictions that we've got up on the nationalpulse.com right now. | ||
| And you look at the latest morning consult poll. | ||
| He is not even holding his current position. | ||
| He's sinking again. | ||
| And what did we talk about yesterday on the show, Steve? | ||
| Is that every time you hear from Ron DeSantis now, it's something about gay and something about trans. | ||
| And yes, America does care about those issues. | ||
| But nowhere near as much as they care about the crime in their communities, the open border that is just completely out of control, and the economics of it all, right? | ||
| The economy, the money in their pockets, and whether or not they can put food on the table. | ||
| And Governor DeSantis has misprioritized, and he just keeps talking about gay, gay, woke, woke, trans, trans. | ||
| There's room for that, but you can't build your whole campaign on it. | ||
| Here's the proof. Down to 17 points now in the Morning Consult poll. | ||
| Lost another two points in the last five days. | ||
| Where have you ever seen this before? | ||
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| With this type of money and these type of ads are running, I want to go to the... | ||
| Remember, he's a creation of the Murdoch Empire, right? | ||
| He's a creation of the Murdochs. | ||
| And for a year and a half, two years, he was on Fox all the time with Town Halls and Laura Ingraham and all these people slobbering all over him. | ||
| His excuse, and now he's on all these shows, he's getting lit up by Tommy Lahren, and he's getting lit up by Maria Bartiroma. | ||
| He's on Fox Business, and he's getting lit up by a question. | ||
| Explain to me the free fall. | ||
| He's got this bizarre answer. | ||
| He blames it on the media. | ||
| Which I don't get. He's gotten the greatest coverage in the media I've ever seen. | ||
| I mean, from Fox and all the minions of Fox, the gravitational pull around Fox of all the minions and influencers depend upon Fox and their hits on Fox to be known at all. | ||
| So explain to me the media hit, and then I want to get into the fundraising, because he's got two weird Actually, wrong answers for both. | ||
| But walk me through, how can he complain about the media? | ||
| He said the greatest media, look at Trump. | ||
| Trump gets trashed every day by Fox, right? | ||
| How does DeSantis blame the media for this? | ||
| That is such a great question because it goes right to the heart of who he currently is and who his campaign are right now and what they're trying to project. | ||
| Because DeSantis gets glowing coverage on right-wing networks. | ||
| He might get critiques and criticisms and lampooning on left-wing networks. | ||
| But again, think about what he's saying there. | ||
| He's not popular amongst Republican-likely voters is because MSNBC is dunking on him. | ||
| Do you see how that doesn't work? | ||
| Do you see how that doesn't make any sense? | ||
| It doesn't work. It doesn't work. | ||
| Well, think about it. Logically, they're all messed up. | ||
| They're all addled in the brain when they try and do these things. | ||
| Because I'll give you another example, right? | ||
| The problem that most people have... | ||
| Note to campaign staff. | ||
| Having MSNBC hammer you is when people want to vote for you more, they're going to vote Republican. | ||
| But continue on, Rahim. | ||
| So I'll give you another example with the trans stuff, right? | ||
| So the main thing that people object to on the transgender stuff, especially as it regards sports, is that men have, you know, greater physical prowess than women and that men shouldn't be in women's locker rooms, especially young women. | ||
| And that's, you know, that tends to be where the anger is focused. | ||
| DeSantis focuses on a beauty pageant. | ||
| And what people hear subconsciously is DeSantis or the DeSantis campaign think men have an advantage in a women's beauty pageant over women. | ||
| You know, again, it's not quite the same thing. | ||
| They haven't quite got the issue and they're not quite deploying the anger in the right place. | ||
| The media stuff is just not going to work because he sounds like a whiner. | ||
| When Trump gets up on a stage, he points to the back of the room, points out the fake news, you know, has a little go at them, has a little laugh with them, honestly, in a lot of those cases. | ||
| It's a back and forth lampooning. | ||
| DeSantis is going on and going, well, you know, the media clearly doesn't want me to be the candidate. | ||
| I mean, on what planet do you expect the media to pull in the back for you? | ||
| It's absurd. Even Anderson Cooper had to get on this last night. | ||
| It's absurd. It's not logical. I want to go then to his, oh, well, it's not as bad as the media is portraying it because I'm raising more money than ever. | ||
| That absolutely is his worst argument because when you look at it, his fundraising is collapsing even as we speak, Rahim Kassam. | ||
| Well, not only is the fundraising collapsing and the donors are aghast at the way the campaign is being run. | ||
| And by the way, they're aghast at the staff themselves and the staff's attitudes. | ||
| towards their money and how their money is being spent and deployed wantonly it strikes me by the way that when you have this much money you don't actually have that much impetus to get into the office every day and work really really hard to show your competence so that you can go out and raise more money off the back of it they all show up into the office every day knowing there's piles of cash and they're getting paid anyway And that breeds complacency. | ||
| And it also breeds resentment, right, from the donors to the staff going like, hey, I gave you this. | ||
| You're supposed to do something with it, but you're sinking in the polls. | ||
| Number one, he's not raising small-dollar money. | ||
| And he won't raise small-dollar money. | ||
| Number two, the big-dollar money is now drying up. | ||
| They're saying, hey, they're summoning him, right? | ||
| It's a crisis talk. Hey, get your ass to Southampton. | ||
| We need to figure out what's going on here because it isn't working for us. | ||
| Raheem, we've got some other topics to go through with you. | ||
| National Pulse is on fire. | ||
| Everybody go over and check out National Pulse right now. | ||
| It should be on your morning diet of consumption of news. | ||
| short commercial break. Rahim, Darren Beatty, Natalie Winters were lit this morning here in the war room. | ||
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| Let's take down the CCD! | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| And slide re-election victory for Governor DeSantis last November. | ||
| New polling shows Sunshine State voters prefer a different Florida man for the 2024 Republican presidential primary there. | ||
| In the latest survey from Florida Atlantic University... | ||
| Donald Trump leads DeSantis by 20 points, 50% to 30% among registered Republican voters in the state. | ||
| All other candidates earned less than 5% of support. | ||
| I said this from the beginning, Rahim, that DeSantis, by listening to, I don't know, the wife, and I think the specter of Chris Christie haunts some of these guys. | ||
| Like, Christie didn't make his move on Obama in 2012, and his career has been finished since then. | ||
| You know, with your hot, do you make your move, or do you wait and do what's best for the country? | ||
| He didn't wait. And now, I believe it's coming crashing down around him. | ||
| As a populist nationalist, in a party that is populist nationalist, and David Ignatius confirmed this yesterday on Morning Joe, the Washington Post lead columnist for all things national security, and he was talking about what Anna Polina Luna came on here and said about Ukraine and the Ukraine situation. | ||
| It's just the optics. | ||
| And this gets back to my point when he's in London. | ||
| He went to the city of London at the end of that five-day debacle international tour. | ||
| And he had the top guys there from the hedge funds, from the city of London, which is their Wall Street. | ||
| He had all the big consulting firms. | ||
| You know, London is still the global center for most businesses in the world, not New York City. | ||
| And they weighed and measured him. | ||
| And I talked to people that were there, and they said it was pathetic. | ||
| This guy's not ready for primetime. | ||
| Rahim, how would you possibly have a meeting in the Hamptons called by your biggest fat cat globalist donors and you show up like a supplicant? | ||
| You know, I've been bad. | ||
| I mean, why would you ever do that? | ||
| In what mindset is that smart to do when you're clearly losing voter support minute by minute, sir? | ||
| Here's the theory. | ||
| Don't come to the office, please. | ||
| That's effectively what he's saying to these people. | ||
| Please stay out of Tallahassee. | ||
| Don't interact with the staff. | ||
| You won't like what you see. | ||
| That's what they hear. Yeah, no, I'll come to you. | ||
| I'll come to you. The Hamptons? | ||
| Sure, we'll make it. | ||
| Right? By the way, can we borrow your plane? | ||
| That's... What we're talking about here. | ||
| And again, you know, I get almost bored of saying this now. | ||
| At the very beginning of all of this, I said, this is not a populist campaign. | ||
| This is Skinsuit Maga, right? | ||
| They don't, they're not really of the, I know these people who work on this campaign. | ||
| I've known some of them for 10 years. | ||
| They're not populist by any stretch of the imagination. | ||
| You've got this kind of hybrid There's a neocon libertarian fusionism going on there, which also doesn't work, by the way, as a philosophical concept. | ||
| But I've been studying some of the stuff that, remember Alan Lichtman? | ||
| He does the keys, the certain keys that you have to unlock to win. | ||
| And he gets a lot of predictions correct. | ||
| He's a frightful leftist, hates Donald Trump. | ||
| But he recently described, I was just reading a transcript from one of his videos, he recently described, he said, quote, Ron DeSantis is an abysmal candidate. | ||
| Imagine Donald Trump without the charm. | ||
| And then he said, here's another mistake the commentators make. | ||
| They pose Donald Trump against the so-called Republican mainstream. | ||
| Supposedly, Chris Christie is a mainstream Republican, right? | ||
| Wrong. Donald Trump is the mainstream. | ||
| There isn't an alternative mainstream Republican that isn't for Donald Trump. | ||
| He is the new mainstream. | ||
| And I think that is one of the things that a lot of people fail to recognize right now, is that populism and Trumpism are actually the common thread that holds the current Republican coalition together. | ||
| You start stepping outside of those boundaries, You'll find there isn't much of a base for that at all. | ||
| I don't know if I have time to play the clip because I know Raheem's got to go. | ||
| I want to pivot two things. | ||
| I got you. I got about three minutes. | ||
| Number one, Anna Polina Luna's thing about Ukraine. | ||
| Zelensky didn't want to go to the NATO conference like a spoiled child. | ||
| He's going to go, but he says it's absurd that they're not letting them in. | ||
| Give me your thoughts. You know Ukraine better than anybody. | ||
| This situation, where we are right now, and you're hearing in the House that no way they're going to vote to support this $100 billion supplement. | ||
| Your thoughts, Raheem? Yeah, let me translate from Ukrainian oligarch into English. | ||
| It's absurd that you don't want to start World War III because I failed in my spring offensive, is what he's actually saying. | ||
| Now, you'll remember, I think it was, what, a month ago, maybe two months ago, I came on here and I said, there will be no spring offensive. | ||
| And everybody sort of reached out to me and said, what are you talking about? | ||
| Like, how could you possibly say something like that? | ||
| I said, watch. Just watch. | ||
| There's not going to be anything of any substance. | ||
| Russians almost took Russia, you know, before Ukraine actually won a village back. | ||
| That was how poor this quote-unquote spring offensive had been. | ||
| And now, by the way, if you read between the lines, all these political articles, New York Times, all of that, you read between the lines on all of that stuff or go to the 13th or 14th paragraph, They now tell you, oh, it's more of an offensive that will last into the summer and beyond. | ||
| OK, well, again, expectation management is everything. | ||
| Ron DeSantis is finding that out. | ||
| Zelensky also finding that out in real time. | ||
| I have no doubt that they're going to ramp up and ramp up and ramp up the demands. | ||
| The F-35s being one of those, right? | ||
| Because that's the only way now that they think, OK, we're just going to have to squeeze as much of this out as possible. | ||
| And guess who's going to help us? | ||
| The US defence industry will help us. | ||
| Because if America is giving us its planes, then they're going to need to build new planes. | ||
| And who gets rich in that environment? | ||
| So that's what we're going to see for the rest of the year, is that ramping up of that rhetoric. | ||
| There's so much more to discuss. | ||
| I know we don't have time, especially on the Turkey stuff, especially on the Sweden stuff. | ||
| But that's for another day. | ||
| And go for the National Pulse. | ||
| Also, this brilliant article by your young charge, Welch, on what really happened. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party gave the Biden administration, the Biden regime, their response. | ||
| You've got to read this. National Pulse is on fire. | ||
| How did they get there? How did they sign up for your pockets? | ||
| That's the start of it. | ||
| The gallium and germanium export controls are just the beginning of China whipping Joe Biden over the course of the entire summit. | ||
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| Raheem, great work. Great, great, great work. | ||
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| He's off the beach. He's on fire. | ||
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