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July 6, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2856: Sound Of Freedom Crushes Indiana Jones; Altering Death Certificates
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
ben bergquam
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
unidentified
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
Welcome to the War Room.
natalie winters
It's Natalie Winters.
Filling in for Stephen K. Bannon today is, of course, July 5th, year of our Lord, 2023.
I don't know about you. I think July 4th has a better ring to it, just like I take the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence over the 51 signers of the Hunter Biden hard drive Russian disinformation letter.
But before we get into all of that, the United Nations, the deep state COVID vaccine and death certificates We have someone calling in to the show right now, someone you probably know, Stephen K. Bannon, with some breaking news when it comes to Hollywood.
And usually we have bad news coming out of that horrible city, but it seems like we may have a glimmer of hope.
Steve, if you can hear me, can you let the posse know what is up when it comes to the sound of freedom?
unidentified
And Natalie, you being an L.A. girl, it just couldn't be more appropriate that you're anchoring.
And I'm calling in, by the way, I'm back to the 6 o'clock.
But just, I found out Deadline Hollywood and others are now got the official numbers from 4th of July, from the actual day yesterday, and Sound of Freedom, with virtually zero marketing budget, did $14 million, and Indiana Jones from Disney did $11 million, 11.7, those are the official numbers.
The Sound of Freedom beat, what is it, Spielberg, Lucasfilms, Disney, Harrison Ford, Indiana Jones, With just word of mouth and people seeing it, what I've heard is the feedback from the theater owners is tremendous.
People love the film. People just love the film for the film itself.
Of course, it's a very harrowing film, very moving.
It's the start of a movement. People didn't know this issue was out there about the trafficking of children for sex into the United States.
But I've just got to tell the War Room Posse, it's just been incredible.
Angel Studios has done an incredible job on a shoestring marketing budget.
And just go to angel.com.
Slash Warren, make sure, pound it, pound it, pound it.
Because as you know, Natalie, there's no bigger power in Hollywood than Disney Studios, and they're in shock right now.
And they're going to get eviscerated on this news that a little film with a grassroots campaign of essentially Trump supporters was able to put these numbers up.
natalie winters
As they totally should.
You know, I'm an L.A. girl.
I actually grew up playing baseball on Harrison Ford's son's team.
So this is a little personal for me, but I'm willing to overlook that.
But, you know, it's the same thing as 2016.
This is the War Room Posse, the grassroots MAGA movement telling the elites, the establishment, We don't buy your propaganda.
There's some other words I could use to describe it anymore.
But, Steve, if there's anything else you want to say, it's obviously your show.
You just are kind enough or crazy enough to let me fill in.
unidentified
Were you a better hitter than Harrison Ford's son?
natalie winters
I actually was.
I was also the only girl on the team, so that might explain how I ended up working on Wyrm.
I didn't want to play softball.
I wanted to play baseball.
I was not trans. I'm glad my parents didn't give me gender-affirming hormones back then.
unidentified
Amazing. You made you the young woman you are today.
Anyway, I want to thank the audience.
You've got an amazing show.
Dr. Naomi Wolf is off her deathbed, and she's going to be at 6 o'clock with me.
We've got a lot of news to break, and that Philip Patrick's on the journey from Birch Gold about the road to Durban.
We're going to be locked and loaded for 6.
Thanks for taking the 5. You guys are rock and roll.
natalie winters
Of course. Thank you so much for joining us, Steve.
I tell people, or I ask you, where can people find you?
But I think people know your schedule.
Well. I think we should have Dr.
James Lindsay joining us.
If I'm not mistaken, we're in a bit of a different studio today.
But I want to get into the good stuff, or really the scary stuff, which is, of course, the United Nations.
We know the WHO pandemic treaty, that's, of course, caused a lot of outrage and uproar here in the war room.
But there's something else that you guys need to have on your radar, because in September 2024, less than two months before the next U.S. presidential election, the United Nations is going to host a landmark summit.
It's called Summit of the Future, where they're going to plot with all of their various stakeholders, including academics, governments, private sector actors, international financial institutions, all of them are going to actively promote and drive an international response that places the principles of equity and solidarity at the center of its work.
But do you know what's so interesting about this?
Because it's something that we've been telling you about for a long time here in the War Room, and especially James Lindsay.
It really has been sounding the alarm, because what exactly is this coordinated response going to be about?
A global shock event.
And do you know what they classify?
Either a major climate event, future pandemic, global digital connectivity disruption, major event in outer space, or even an unforeseen risk.
In other words, our worst fears here are coming true.
Joining me to break it down is, of course, none other than Dr.
James Lindsay. James, your thoughts?
james lindsay
Well, you may not know this, but I actually spent the last two hours reading through the declaration from 2015 for the Agenda 2030 Sustainable Development Goals.
That was so fun.
Podcast coming soon.
And this is the agenda to hand over all of the power, all of the national sovereignties throughout the nations of the world to the United Nations.
Now obviously that's not going really well because outfits like this, and you and I have been speaking about this for a long time, we've been drawing attention to it, and they need the trust of people, and they've lost the trust of people.
So they can't implement with our consent, which means they have to implement with force.
So when we read, say, Klaus Schwab, he's not United Nations, but he's World Economic Forum and promotes these same agendas.
When he writes in the great narrative for a better future, which is just the funniest name of a book ever, that the great narrative is that there's going to be all of these crises, all these, the poly crisis, he calls it now, all these crises, the exact same list you gave, you know, there's a pandemic maybe, oh no, the cyber attacks, something like this.
They're right around the corner.
We need global cooperation in order to solve these.
We need to hand over more power to these global elites and let them guide us.
And this is exactly what they're doing because we don't trust them.
They have to force it. They have to force it with pretext, and that pretext is going to be crisis shock or whatever it is that they're calling.
So they're trying to advance this agenda.
We're eight years into their 15-year Agenda 2030 program.
It's no longer going well for them.
They were behind target as it was.
Now they're very far behind target, and people don't trust them, so they're going to have to force it.
natalie winters
You were instrumental in really putting the final nail in the coffin when it came to critical race theory, which I like to just call it Marxism because that's what it is.
But when you talk about this new threat that we face, which I think is the concept of global governance, you've had some really interesting, I think, philosophical takes, if I may say.
On how the concept of global governance, which is what this entire theory that the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, really relies upon at face value doesn't actually mean anything because that implies there is, you know, a global sovereign, which I don't know about you, I never voted to elect Klaus Schwab as my personal leader, but can you sort of walk us through the ideological backing behind this movement and what you and your fellow, you know, intellectual leaders are doing to really push back?
james lindsay
Yeah, sure. So the thing that they're pushing really hard right now is this concept of global citizenship, which doesn't exist.
That's a made-up term.
They want people to think, oh, well, I go around the world.
I visit London. I get to see the whole world.
I'm a global citizen. I get to go visit different places.
I am a citizen of the globe.
It's even bigger than my nation.
So you kind of water down your ties to your country.
You forget that your country is important.
But more importantly, you start to see yourself as a citizen of a global program.
Well, Citizenship is a relationship between a government and the people that it serves or rules over depending on the nature of that government.
And there is no global governance right now.
There is no global government.
We don't take orders from the United Nations and we shouldn't, but they want us to.
So if we start to believe that we are in fact global citizens and if they're pushing in our schools global citizenship education as they are, Then we might say on the other end of this, well, what does that mean?
I want to make good on this.
They'll say, we can make good on your global citizenship arrangement simply enough by installing a global government, and then we can give you new rights and duties and privileges, and we'll secure those anywhere you are in the globe.
And so this is the scam that they're trying to pull on people, and this is very well-developed.
The Global Citizenship Education Program is well-developed.
What do they define a global citizen as?
Wouldn't you be surprised? Somebody who...
What are the rights of a global citizen?
and this isn't a book about global citizenship education, then they go on a paragraph later and say, well, we're not actually that concerned with rights when it comes to global citizenship.
We're concerned with their responsibilities and duties.
In other words, it's a program to make you a slave to a global government that completely obliterates national sovereignty and completely obliterates personal sovereignty so that you can be part and parcel of their agenda.
And it's actually scary as hell that they're going to try to turn around and use a crisis shock situation to try to suspend national sovereignty to steal that power, to be able to do that.
And right before the election?
natalie winters
Are you kidding me? No conspiracies, but no coincidences.
I think you and I probably wouldn't make the cut to be good global citizens.
But speaking about elections, I'm just curious, have you seen anything from this current White House Or even any of our elected officials that's actually pushing back against this?
Because from what I can tell, what I see up here in Washington, D.C., is that it seems like this concept of global government and really ceding our sovereignty to this global elite sort of seems like the modus operandi for the Democrats and even elements of the establishment Republican Party.
james lindsay
That's exactly what it looks like.
I can think of an administration that's not president right now that I watched speak in person a couple of days ago named Donald J. Trump stand up to this agenda.
I watched him pull us out of UNESCO as a country.
I watched Joe Biden put us back in.
I just saw that celebrated on Twitter.
Where UNESCO is the primary pusher of this United Nations global citizenship and sustainable development education into our schools.
It's also the primary pusher of what's called comprehensive sexuality education, which I don't think I even have to go into that very deeply for you to get the gist of what it's about, and we know what's happening in our schools as a result of that.
They're pushing something called pleasure-based sexual education now very vigorously in conjunction with the International Planned Parenthood Foundation.
And so the Trump administration was standing up to all of this and was fighting back very vigorously against all of this to the degree that it had the capacity to.
He's committing to fighting against it even more vigorously should he get the White House again.
But the current occupant of the White House Seems all in on this.
And like you said, not just elected Democrats, but also a lot of establishment Republicans.
So it's a very concerning moment in our nation's history because, frankly, if we're talking about handing over national sovereignty and helping to do that, we're talking about what amounts to roughly treason.
And that's a very serious charge to throw down, but it's also something we have to take seriously because this is a desperate moment for the United States.
So thank goodness for Trump and thank goodness for MAGA standing up for this.
natalie winters
Dr. James Lindsay is coming in hot on War Room.
I never thought I'd come to see the day where I hear you both endorsing Trump and throwing out the T-word, treason.
But before I let you go, because we've got about two minutes, you were at the Moms for Liberty Summit up in Pennsylvania.
Trump obviously spoke there.
DeSantis, the whole cast of characters.
What were your thoughts on the event?
I know there were some interesting protesters, some Antifa, BLM, Ibram Kendi-inspired protesters outside.
What was your experience there?
james lindsay
It was basically the 1619 Project outside, but it was a huge astroturfed movement of fake protest outside screaming at us while we're having a wonderful conference inside.
Moms for Liberty is the future of this country.
It's mobilized to protect its kids, and this is the problem for them because moms will unite to protect their children to the point where they'll stop a revolution if that's necessary.
So the American Cultural Revolution these radicals are putting us through will get stopped by moms, and Moms for Liberty is a huge front in that operation.
They're doing wonderful work.
So what did they scream?
They screamed all kinds of profanity and invective at us, but then they said Philadelphia doesn't want you.
Well, it's a bunch of people flown in from Portland and Seattle and California and New York.
That didn't want us there.
We even heard them say that they had to hurry up and get down to the next one in Miami.
So these are fake astroturf protesters trying to convince people that Philadelphia didn't want us.
We had the exact opposite experience.
These leftists are desperate.
It was actually the Youth Communist League openly was the people hosting the protest.
And so the communists are against the moms and the communists are against liberty.
And who's surprised about any of that?
natalie winters
That's how you know you're on the right side of history.
Dr. James Lindsay, if people want to find you, follow your work, and stay up to date with all the wonderful things you're working on, where can they find you?
james lindsay
Well, you can see my website is newdiscourses.com, and I am at conceptualjames on social media, except Facebook, which banned me for life.
natalie winters
Recently reinstated on Twitter, and I think the website is a better place for it.
James, thank you so much for joining us.
james lindsay
We'll see you soon. Thank you very much.
natalie winters
And War Room Posse, we will be right back.
We've got a packed show.
We're going to go to the border. We're going to talk all things COVID vaccine, death certificates.
Of course, the deep state.
We got James Bacon from Heritage's Project 2025 joining us.
We'll be right back talking about not just how to dismantle these things temporarily, but take them down once and for all.
unidentified
And Donald Trump, I think, is the guy to do it.
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
natalie winters
Sorry about the technical difficulties.
I think we are back better.
We're not building back better.
That's Joe Biden's thing. I think I maybe just jinxed the show by saying that, but I'm not sure if we have any guests.
If we have Ben Berkwam, that would be fantastic.
Do we? I think we do.
Ben, I'm so glad that you can finally join us.
Apologies on our end.
If you want to walk us through what you've been seeing today since you were last on this morning.
ben bergquam
Well, I just got down here, Natalie, to Laredo.
Bridge 1 is right behind me.
Actually, I'm going to step out of the camera shot here for a second and zoom in there for you.
We keep talking about these CBP-1 illegals applications coming through.
So just about every port of entry, you'll see this.
Up on top, you can see that line of people.
Those are all CBP-1.
This is kind of the checkpoint before they're let in.
These are the people that have an appointment.
And this is actually the location Juan Mendoza was reporting from last week that they actually tried to rush.
From what I understand, they actually tried to rush the border again yesterday here.
But this is this is what basically explains why Washington and Joe Biden and the left are saying that the numbers are decreasing.
All of those people right there, mostly Venezuelans at this bridge.
But every point along the way, you've got people from China, you got people from the Middle East, you have people from Central and South America.
All of these people, they're counting as not illegals.
They're counting them as legal entries.
And the truth is, the vast majority of them won't qualify to stay.
So all they're doing is simply letting them come in, giving them a notice to appear, a court date, and then letting them into the country.
While all of that's happening, you still have the people, and we just actually witnessed it, I'll have to post the video here in just a second, but as I was standing right here getting ready, right on the other side of me, where the river is, the river kind of goes around the bend here under Bridge 2, which is off to my left now, there were illegals that tried to crawl across the river, so the ones that get tired of waiting for CBP-1, or simply just want to turn themselves in, And take their chance on being deported and appealing their deportation, which is what's happening now.
They continue to come.
While that's all happening, the cartel's exploiting all of it, and then they're basically going to the people and saying, hey, if you don't want to wait for that, if you don't want to take a chance there, we'll take you across.
So every point along the way, starting in El Paso last week and going through Del Rio and Eagle Pass and now into Laredo, I'm seeing more and more and more cartel traffic, more people coming across illegally.
And really, ultimately, the concern I have aren't the numbers that are coming across here.
These ones, you know, in some way we get to track them.
Those are concerning. But it's the numbers that we don't know about.
And just to give you an idea, Natalie...
Border Patrol in the El Paso sector told me that in the region from Mount Crystal Ray, and I showed some of that footage this morning, where we actually had ladder after ladder after ladder.
I was actually cutting down ladders on the wall.
They said that they were apprehending around 1,000 per day in one little short section there.
And these are people, these are mostly runners that don't want to get caught.
But they estimated that there are 4,000 to 5,000 coming across in just that little tiny section.
And there's a 20-mile section out from Santa Teresa Port of Entry out to Columbus, New Mexico, where they have no coverage.
The only Border Patrol officer I saw out there the whole time I was there was only looking for dead bodies.
They don't even have time to track the gotaways out there.
It is absolutely out of control.
natalie winters
Ben, we got about two minutes before I gotta let you go, but I just have a question.
Now, don't take this the wrong way.
I love your shots.
The work you do is amazing, but whenever I see you on camera, it makes me mad because I want to see Border Patrol agents flanking you, right?
I feel like... I never see an actual border press.
And no shade to CBP. I know their hands are tied and then some.
It's obviously coming from the Biden regime.
And that's why we see immigrants' numbers skyrocketing, right?
And then Border Patrol, the actual number of officers that they're deploying, are plummeting.
There's certainly an interesting correlation there.
But put us on the ground.
What is the morale? What is the...
Really vibe and energy, like, from Border Patrol.
Are they so upset?
Do they want Trump back?
Do they want the ability to actually enforce the rules on the books?
Like I said, I got about a minute before I gotta let you go.
ben bergquam
Yeah, in fact, when I was in El Paso, you know, they can't go on camera.
They can't say any of this vocally.
But over and over and over again, I had guys saying, thank you for coming out.
We're watching your reporting. We appreciate what you're saying and you're showing.
You're saying what we can't say.
And they just, they really appreciate it.
And I just want to say thank you to Border Patrol.
To the guys and gals in Border Patrol, just know that America has your back.
The dark days are now, but it's not always going to be that way.
We're going to take this country back, and you're going to be a part of that.
And I just want to encourage you guys, if you're in green, that we stand with you.
We just want Washington to be able to let you do your job.
But morale is absolutely low, but they absolutely need our support.
They need to know that we've got their back when we do take control back.
natalie winters
I would say U.S. Border Patrol over the establishment's Praetorian Guard, as Steve always talks about, any day.
Ben Burkwam, if people want to follow you and stay up to date with all your seriously wonderful reporting, where can they find you?
ben bergquam
Well, social media, my website's frontlineamerica.com.
You can obviously watch our episodes of Law& Border at americasvoice.news.
And then social media, at Ben Berquam.
I just released the video about an hour ago of the ladders on the wall, cutting those down.
It's at Ben, B-E-R-G-Q-U-A-M. Thank you, Natalie.
natalie winters
Thank you so much for joining us, Ben.
Warren Posse will be right back talking all things COVID, vaccine deaths, and death certificates.
Sounds enticing.
We'll be right back after this break.
unidentified
Stephen K. Band.
natalie winters
Welcome back to the war room.
This is a story, despite the technical difficulties, that I really wanted to get to because I think it speaks to something we've been all about here in The Warm Room, which is, of course, COVID vaccines and how the establishment, specifically the medical establishment and big pharma, have colluded to really cover up the negative side effects, in some cases, life-costing side effects of people who decided to receive the jab.
Now, I'm no expert on this.
My dad is an infectious disease doctor, but I don't think that transfers genetically.
So joining me is a wonderful journalist and someone who is doing some work at the Brownstone Institute.
And another co-author who did a similar study but in a different state.
But before we bring John Paul on, Erin Hertzberg, if you can run us through the really groundbreaking story that you just put up for Brownstone talking about the manipulation and really omission of COVID vaccines from death certificates for people who likely or seemingly so died from them.
unidentified
Yeah, so basically we were able to obtain the death certificates from a few states, Massachusetts and New Mexico.
So we went through the death certificates in Minnesota.
And we discovered that the CDC had omitted the proper ICD codes for vaccine injuries on the majority of the death certificates that identified a vaccine injury as a cause of death.
Basically, the way the death certificates work is that the coroner or doctor fills it out, writes in all the conditions that contributed to the death.
On the death certificate.
That gets sent to the state government, who then transmits it to the CDC. The CDC applies medical diagnostic codes from the ICD-10 database that are corresponding for every medical condition identified as a cause of death.
So for vaccine side effects, there are two that could apply, T881 and Y590. So we discovered that there were certifications that identified a COVID vaccine as a cause of death. However, the CDC only applied the correct ICD codes in two of the nine, meaning that seven of nine death certificates, the CDC did not apply the corresponding ICD code for vaccine injuries.
natalie winters
So just walk me through that again for one second.
You're saying that on these death certificates, they itemize the cause of death, or one of them potentially being the COVID vaccine, but then the CDC does not take the necessary step to include that in their database?
unidentified
Yes. So basically, let's say you had a death certificate that listed a heart attack, like a stroke, cancer, and a COVID vaccine on the death certificate.
So imagine the CDC puts the ICD codes for the heart attack, the stroke, and cancer, but doesn't put on the ICD code for the COVID vaccine side effects.
So that creates like a fraudulent misrepresentation in the data that you now, you're concealing The existence of these deaths that were attributed at least in part to a COVID vaccine by not putting the proper ICD codes on.
natalie winters
And real quick, because I want to bring in John Paul for a second, but in your estimation, And obviously it's speculation, but do you think that this is intentional coming from the CDC, omitting it to not, you know, fan the flames of, you know, anti-vaccine sentiment and however they want to smear us?
Or do you think it's fair to say that this may just be a clerical error?
unidentified
I think John could talk to this better than I can, but I would assume that it's likely a Done deliberately, probably motivated by something along the lines of what you're saying to not have vaccine hesitancy or something like that.
natalie winters
Creating actual misinformation in order to combat misinformation sounds like a clownish tactic that only the Biden regime would endorse.
But John Paul, if you are here, I think I can see you and hear you.
You did a similar study, from what I understand, in Michigan instead of Minnesota.
You had similar records.
So if you want to sort of walk us through what you did, how it dovetails with this story, and then feel free to answer the question that I posed to Erin.
In other words, is it incompetence or is it intentional?
unidentified
Sure. Massachusetts, not Michigan, but they're all M states, so I know it's tough to keep it straight.
That's okay. So a year ago, February, we got the Massachusetts death certificates, about 500,000.
I think it's probably about 420,000 from Minnesota.
And I was able to determine a number of things, and one of them is fraud.
I sued the state government of Massachusetts and federal court district of Massachusetts.
Excuse me. For mostly fraud, but as it relates to deprivation of rights, civil action for deprivation of rights.
And the fraud that's occurring, there's a number of federal felony statutes I won't get into, but the state is absolutely doing this.
And as it turns out, Aaron found the same thing that's happening in Minnesota.
Now, is it intentional?
Well, if you create a software parser that is It's a piece of software that's going to read English words from the death certificates and try to turn those words into the codes that correlate to the words.
What they're trying to do is say that a death within 10 hours or five minutes of a vaccine doesn't count, but a death from COVID eight months earlier gets coded.
That's not a mistake.
And we can't really talk about a new development yet until we verify it.
We'll be having a joint article by the end of the week, and there will be intent shown with regard to that article.
If you find two out of nine or two out of seven that are coded and some that aren't, well, that's not a software glitch.
There has to be manual intervention.
Otherwise the software would have disposed of all of them or correctly coded all of them.
So obviously the manual intervention comprises intent to defraud the people.
And it's far worse than this.
This is the tip of the iceberg.
natalie winters
So as much as I don't like diving below the tip of the iceberg because usually you don't find good stuff there, I want to because this really is an important issue of course.
It's really life or death, no pun intended.
So, do you think that this is happening, you know, you guys obviously represent two states, but this is happening across the country?
Do you think that this is happening really, really everywhere?
And I want to pose one more question to you, John.
I could imagine that what you guys are uncovering Really, really poses an existential threat to not just the profits of big pharma, but their narrative that these vaccines were the greatest thing ever invented for all of humanity and mankind.
So I could imagine that you guys have probably gotten some pretty harsh pushback, probably all the way from the federal government themselves in terms of censorship and branding you guys as spreaders of misinformation.
But if you're just going to walk us through how deep you think this goes and how deep they've gone to try to cover it up.
unidentified
Well, it's pretty deep.
I mean, if you look at America First Legal's FOIA response that they got, we know that they had people within Twitter from former federal FBI and so forth employees that were, well, I was definitely suppressed and shadow banned more than a year.
Since Elon took over, it got better, but then it got worse again and now it's getting better again.
As far as how deep does it go?
It goes to the medical boards, the certification boards, so there's state licensing boards that handle the license to practice medicine, but there are board certifications that surgeons and doctors must have in order to practice in a hospital.
Those board certifications, such as the American Board of Internal Medicine, American Board of Family Medicine, American Board of Pediatrics, if you go to the website for the American Board of Internal Medicine, you'll find a joint letter from the three CEOs of those organizations.
They are telling doctors that if they spread vaccine misinformation, they'll have their license suspended or revoked.
That's coercion.
Every doctor in the United States knows that they can't mention the vaccine in a negative light or they'll face reprisal.
The CARES Act itself is nothing more than solicitation of fraud.
Thomas Sowell, if you subsidize something, you get more of it, okay?
You subsidize COVID being on a death certificate, you get more COVID on a death certificate, whether it was COVID or not.
You subsidize more remdesivir, you get more remdesivir and acute renal failure deaths with it, which to the tune of about 100,000 in the United States, it's basically murder.
The vaccine deaths are over 300,000 by my estimation.
I can back up everything I'm saying with data.
What did I miss here?
The Remdesivir, oh, the ventilators.
You subsidize ventilators, you get more people put on ventilators.
The COVID numbers they're purporting, as far as deaths, it really comes down to about 10% of what they purport might be COVID deaths.
The rest I can draw through refusal of antibiotics.
You go to NIH or FDA website, you will not find the word antibiotic in how to treat COVID. How many people died of bacterial pneumonia?
I know because I have the data.
natalie winters
No, no, I also wanted to ask you, too, on the other side of this issue, sort of two sides of the same coin, I know there was a lot of discussion about how they were inflating the number of COVID deaths by basically prioritizing people instead of dying with COVID,
but dying from COVID, because hospitals were getting different payment allocations if they had people who died from COVID. So do you think that There's a similar process, like I said, going on the other side of the coin where they want to make it seem like more people died from COVID. Please explain and please feel free to give us all the nerdy data possible.
unidentified
All right. Well, if you look at my lawsuit and you look at Exhibit F, it's 123 pages of documented fraud.
Hundreds of accidental deaths, acute fentanyl intoxication in the setting of SARS-CoV-2 positivity, they tested dead bodies for COVID. They called fentanyl overdoses COVID. Blunt force trauma to the head, blunt force trauma to the torso, falling down the stairs, getting in car accidents. Those are the easy ones.
And that's just Massachusetts.
There's hundreds. Now, if they're willing to do that, be so blatant, so obvious as to put that on a death certificate for those, imagine what they're doing.
For 85-year-olds who have a heart attack.
COVID went on everything.
I'm not at liberty to talk about my sources, but I did, I'll say, talk to a medical examiner who was here for the first wave, and he He told me that they were called by the Department of Public Health and said, well, I have a COVID positive test for this decedent.
Can you put it on the death certificate?
And he said, I'm not going to do that.
That would be fraud.
That was months ago he had that.
And they said, well, all the others are doing it.
So I know it was happening.
I know what they did. I have all the proof.
I have evidence that's sworn to in federal court under pains of prison time.
I'll go to prison. This is all true and accurate.
natalie winters
Well, we will definitely have you back on to talk about that because, like I said, this is really an important issue.
But Aaron, we still have you.
I got about two minutes before we got to drop this segment.
But Aaron, if you want to let us know where your investigations are heading and specifically where the war room posse can find you and stay up to date with what you're working on, please let us know.
unidentified
Let's see. I ran on Substack at ashbadi.substack.com.
Right now we're looking – one of the things we're looking into is the possibility that there's a lot more systemic fraud within the CDC's coding of the death certificates.
There might be a little bit nerdy to try to get into the details here, but the CDC might be like – Swapping out the primary cause of death.
It's called the underlying cause of death or U-Code.
They might be swapping in COVID on a lot of deaths to be the primary cause of death, even though it's not on the death certificate itself.
natalie winters
Sure. And Aaron, we're coming up against a break.
So give us your...
You said Substack. We got your Substack.
And John Paul, if we have you still, if people want to stay up to date with what you're working on, where can they find your writings and find you on social media?
unidentified
If you haven't been banned, something tells me you probably have been.
So my book is done.
It'll be hopefully out in August.
It's called therealcdc.com.
If you go to therealcdc.com, just sign up and you'll get a notice.
Just put your email in there. The email is used for nothing else.
The other site where you can find the data, graphs, and my lawsuits is viaveravita.com.
And then I'm John Paul, or excuse me, John Bodwin Sr.
is my Twitter handle.
I'm mostly on Twitter.
I'm all over Twitter. Some of my Both have 160,000 views.
natalie winters
That's amazing. Thank you both for joining me.
This really is just a groundbreaking story.
Talking about more groundbreaking news, we got James Bacon talking how to dismantle the deep state once and for all just after this break.
You have to stick around for that.
Come on. Welcome back to the War Room.
I think when we talk about who exactly we're at war with, I think you guys know who we're talking about.
It's not even just the Democrats, the establishment Republicans.
It is what they together converge to form and create.
Which is the Deep State, and joining me now is James Bacon, basically the former director of personnel and all things HR in the White House, a senior advisor to Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 initiative, and an advisor to the wonderful app that states Right Stuff.
I guess you guys are sort of under attack for attacking the deep state, which is a sign that you're over the target.
If you want to walk us through how the mainstream media is coming after you, but more importantly, getting into the good philosophical stuff when it comes to the deep state, which are always so wonderful at how it actually proves our case that we're right.
The deep state does indeed exist and that they are indeed coming for us, average, everyday, normal Americans.
unidentified
That's right. Thank you for having me.
So, there was an article that came out that said the Republicans and the Heritage Foundation have deep state envy.
They're accusing us of wanting to use the DOJ to go after our political enemies.
They're saying that Joe Biden had no knowledge of the Trump indictment and didn't direct it.
But I can't really imagine what's worse, Biden directing the Trump indictment or the fact that a rogue DOJ, completely independent of the president, indicted Joe Biden's top political opponent for him without having him lifting a finger.
I think that's actually worse and proves that there is a deep state that's out there to help the Democrats and go after Republicans.
natalie winters
So we got a few minutes, but I want to have you walk through, because like I said, you understand the deep state because you were up against them.
So when this term gets, you know, thrown around a lot, Steve prefers the term permanent political class, the in-your-face state, because you don't have to look that hard to find it.
But what exactly constitutes this so-called deep state that we're pushing up against right now and winning, might I add?
unidentified
Well, there's a lot of aspects to it.
You know, a lot of people think that the deep state's power is in the Pentagon or in the CIA. But actually, its headquarters is within the White House itself.
There's this office called the Office of Management and Budget.
And there's over 500 career staffers within that office.
And over time, they have usurped the president's authority.
So they manage the agencies for the president.
So instead of the president giving the orders, you have this management bureaucracy interpreting the president's agenda their own way.
The Office of Management and Budget was used by FDR to basically send his shock troops into every federal agency.
And that structure that was used still exists today.
So the first thing the next president needs to do is you need to get rid of the deep state's headquarters.
You need to get the Office of Management and Budget out of the physical White House and then figure out how to dismantle it.
But these people are literally walking around the Eisenhower Executive Office building.
It's the same thing with the National Security Council, where you had Vindman literally working in the White House.
You have to kick these bureaucrats out of the building.
That's where it has to start.
Cloak at the CIA. That's not how it works.
It's much more in-your-face, and like Steve Bannon says, an in-your-face political class.
natalie winters
Well, I think what Donald Trump did to the ISIS caliphate he should do to the deep state caliphate, then it sounds like you're talking about OMB, all these frankly useless institutions.
But James, we've got a few minutes before I have to let you go, and I do want to talk about what Project 2025 is doing to combat this, but just real quick, Seems like what Donald Trump was up against, while it was certainly unique, it wasn't out of the ordinary in terms of presidents like Ronald Reagan who actually dared to defy the establishment, dared to defy the natural political order of the complacent, managed, declined, subscribing, global elite.
Real quick, just give me a minute on that.
What did Reagan face and how did it parallel what Trump faced?
unidentified
Reagan faced the exact same things that Trump is facing from the permanent bureaucracy.
Not only did Reagan face undermining from his political appointees that were the Washington, D.C. Republicans that controlled the presidential personnel office, all his political appointments, but he also faced resistance from the careers themselves.
So this is nothing new.
We have to finally throw this off once and for all.
It's like President Trump said in a recent speech, this is the final battle.
We have to get this political class out of the government once and for all.
We can't just keep repeating this cycle that Reagan went through, that Trump went through.
We have to do it once and for all.
natalie winters
According to him, he will obliterate the deep state, God willing, or maybe inshallah, to go back to my ISIS caliphate metaphor.
But James, you're working on Project 2025 now.
We've got about two minutes. If you could just let us know what that is and how that's actually accomplishing something and helping us be ready with the troops, ready to storm, to go in and take down this deep state.
unidentified
First of all, we're recruiting patriots from all around the country to come and join the next administration.
You can work in the White House.
You can work at the Pentagon.
You can work at the State Department.
If you're a true believer in these MAGA policies, we want you to join.
And that's the first part of it.
So tell your friends, tell your grandkids, tell your local congressmen, tell all these people because we need people to sign up for this thing.
It's project2025.org.
So that's one part is the recruitment.
The second part is we are mapping out the entire federal government for the first time on the Republican side.
So we are going to have Organizational charts of the entire federal government where we can place and plan the next transition team.
So we can plan where we are going to put these key appointees into key choke points within the bureaucracy so that we can finally defeat this permanent government.
This has never been done before and to do this right we need all of you to join and we need you to spread the word.
So that's project2025.org.
natalie winters
James Bacon has a knack for databases, so I'm told.
James, hit us one more time with the website that people can go to if they want to sign up, which War Room Posse, just like you showed up for Sound of Freedom and made it be Indiana Jones.
You've got to do the same for Project 2025.
unidentified
James, one more time, what's the website?
Project2025.org.
Sign up today. Tell your friends.
We're going to defeat the deep state.
natalie winters
Indeed we are. James, thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you for listening to me for the last hour or so.
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