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WarRoom Battleground EP 325 The Fall Of Free Speech In England
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room. Battleground.
steve bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Welcome Friday, 30 June, year of earlier, 2023.
A lot going on today.
This has been a packed news day, kicking off a big four-day holiday weekend.
For some people, it's been five days, so a lot of people left early.
Not the War Room, and we've got a special tomorrow morning, 10 to noon.
We'll be on an incredible special Monday, Tuesday, all of it.
So you can come to your War Room at 10 to noon.
You're going to get plenty of information and analysis and observations.
I want to start. I want to go back to Moms for Liberty.
Got Jane and Mo there for the weekend.
First off, guys, thanks for stepping out and doing this.
I want to go first, Jane.
Something that's gotten a lot of controversy today is the size and kind of tenor of the protesters outside this.
Give us your assessment of what you're seeing.
You've gone to so many of these rallies.
You follow President Trump around so much.
unidentified
Talk to me about it. Yes, so the protesters have been rather aggressive.
I know that they were advertising for a type of dance protest, and when we checked it out earlier today, there was a lot of sexually explicit dancing going on, and there were children around, which really gets to the core of this event.
We're trying to protect children from hyper-sexualization, from what's going on in the schools.
from this woke agenda and really make it the core of 2024.
Last night, Mo and I had the honor of attending Carrie Lake's Unafraid book launch at Bedminster where President Trump paid a visit and said a few remarks.
And she said it was the parental rights movement that motivated her to get into the race in the first place.
And Unafraid is a perfect description for what Moms of Liberty is all about.
They have faced You know, discrimination from the Biden administration, they've been labeled domestic terrorists, but through it all they remain unafraid and they are fighting for the future and the future of their children.
steve bannon
Jane, you're from the younger generation.
Give us your assessment. A lot of people out there, your generation, are doing this provocative dance.
I mean, obviously they're doing it to try to trigger the people at Moms for Liberty because Moms for Liberty, their leading agenda item is the protection of the family, the protection of the children.
How does this strike you?
unidentified
It's incredibly important.
I mean, you just look at culture in television, for example, how sex is just out in the open, how our film and TV industry have been completely destroyed by this hyper-sexualization in the culture.
I mean, you can't turn on the radio these days without hearing about rape and murder.
It's really disgusting what has been allowed to go on in the country.
And Moms for Liberty here is saying, you know, no more of this.
We're, you know, returning to A place of sanity, really.
And it's really like a black and white line.
It's like, are we going to expose children to hyper-sexualization, or are we going to protect their innocence?
steve bannon
Mo, you've been with us now for a couple of years, and you've tracked this very closely when you were in Virginia.
You saw the rise of this public, of the parents' rights movement.
Why are these protesters, why have they targeted specifically Moms for Liberty?
unidentified
They have targeted Moms for Liberty because Moms for Liberty speaks the truth.
They're fighting to protect the child.
And we see, especially what we've seen at these Pride events, the left doesn't want to protect the children.
They want to sexualize children.
And that's what Moms for Liberty is fighting against.
maureen bannon
And that's why there are so many protesters that have been here today to fight against that.
steve bannon
Jane, you've been following President Trump very closely.
We've got you at a bunch of rallies.
You're down there in Palm Beach.
You've been a bunch of stuff in Mar-a-Lago.
What is it? Because one of the criticisms he gets, oh, he's, you know, he's alpha male.
You know, he's crude.
He's, you know, he's got these lawsuits by this woman.
You follow this around.
What is the bond between Trump and organizations like Moms for Liberty as you've gone around and seen this?
unidentified
I believe they see that he's a genuine person, that he's a real person who is about the people and will represent the voice of the people.
You know, you look at these counter-protesters and the two things that they're protesting is Moms for Liberty and Donald Trump.
They go hand in hand because they recognize that he is going to stand up to them.
steve bannon
Mo, you were with Cary Lake last night.
You know Cary very well.
Why do you think they've come after Cary so hard also?
Cary Lake seems, you know, you got Trump, you got Cary Lake, you got Moms for Liberty.
What is it about Cary Lake that also gets these people so riled up?
And you can see, as you guys have seen outside all day, It's irrational.
And what they're doing is they're out there.
They're like children.
They're like spoiled children.
They can't have their way.
There's no intellectual argument they're making here.
Carrie Lake's the same way.
Give us your assessment of that.
unidentified
They're going after Carrie because Carrie is a fighter and she wants the truth exposed.
And they don't want the truth exposed.
That's why they continue to go against her.
And she's a mama bear. She says it almost every time she speaks.
She is a mama bear and she wants to protect the children.
And that's what they can't stand.
And that's why they continue to go after her.
They continue to go after President Trump because they are standing for the children just like Moms for Liberty.
steve bannon
Jane, what advice would you give Moms for Liberty in this run-up to the 2024 election?
They've had such a big impact today.
They've now gotten to be such a prominent group.
And I've had people sending me photos from inside all day.
They're blown away by the size of the audience, by how much the audience is focused, how many war room posse members are there.
What would be your advice to the senior leadership, Tiffany, and the team that...
What would be your advice to them going forward?
unidentified
Well, this is called the Joyful Warrior Summit, after all, and I can't help but think that's a nod to the original happy warrior, Andrew Breitbart.
And he always said, run towards the fire.
So my advice to them is to run towards the fire.
And to quote Carrie Lake, remain unafraid, because they are really doing phenomenal work that is so necessary to the fabric of this country.
steve bannon
Fantastic. Mo, Wall Street Journal, we had Joe Ken on today.
We didn't have time in the morning show to get to it, but a huge Wall Street Journal article about one of the biggest problems, the myths in recruiting now, and particularly for the Army, is that so many veterans are telling their children not to go in.
When we had Joe Ken up, we played the Special Forces Command.
They had a tweet out where they had the pride flag, and they're talking about how they serve under the pride flag, and they're so proud of that.
What's your assessment? You're a daughter of a veteran that decided to go serve, and even do it worse, go to the military academy for your college, and then go serve on Iraq during the years of combat.
Of course, your uncle Chris is a Navy pilot.
Your aunt Sidney's a Navy nurse.
We've got veterans.
You're cousins. You've got cousins in the Army and the Navy.
What's your assessment of that article?
What's your assessment of what you would tell your kids?
unidentified
The military now is not the military that I served in, that you served in, that our family served in.
We need to get back in this military to warfighting.
We need to focus on how to train for warfighting instead of pronoun training and all of the woke agendas that are being pushed.
That's why recruiting numbers are so low.
It's because, like this article said, Veterans are not encouraging their family members to go in because this is not the military that they know.
We need to, as veterans, push for this service to go back to the way it was and encourage our children to go into that service as long as we are focusing on warfighting.
steve bannon
Great. Guys, over the weekend, you're going to be doing Getter.
Where can people get you two guys over the weekend?
unidentified
You can find me at Jane Zirkle across social media platforms, and I will have some very special coverage this evening.
And you can find me on Twitter and Getter at Maureen underscore Bannon.
And also, I'm coming in really hot on Instagram at Real Maureen Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay. Look forward to following you two guys over the weekend.
And Jane, what time do you know what time are you going to be posting this special that you're putting together?
unidentified
You'll have to keep an eye out for it.
You'll have to keep an eye out for it.
Stay tuned. Make sure to follow at Jane Zirkle.
steve bannon
You're good, kid. You're good.
You're very good. Okay, Jane Zirkle, Calamity Jane, Captain Maureen Bannon at Moms for Liberty throughout the weekend.
Thanks, guys. Appreciate you taking time out from the conference to join us.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
steve bannon
Moms for Liberty has really done it.
I mean, for a group that really just started a couple of years ago, they're really on fire right now.
And this conference is very, very special to the degree.
You can get live streaming. We'll try to get up that you can get and get as many of the speakers as possible.
I've got, we've got Norma Bin Laden on a major, major article about her we're going to get to in a second.
She's going to be with us live.
But I got Peter McElvaney at Hearts of Oak.
Peter, this thing you sent me, I go to the site with him, but this thing you sent me was very disturbing.
And here's why it's disturbing.
You know, because over this month we've done the, you know, the 79th anniversary of Normandy.
And this morning we had Rahim on and showing what's happening in Paris and thinking about the Canadian, British, and American troops that fought, Not just D-Day, but fought for those next 60 to 80 days in Normandy to slug it out and the sacrifice they made to see what Paris has turned to.
But really, this was quite heart-rendering of what's happening in Great Britain.
And I think back...
To Field Marshal Montgomery and the great, I think it was the Second Army, and many of the elements that have been the Desert Rats, and the tough, tough combat fighting they had in Northwest France 79 years ago.
And I see what's happening to England every day.
Even though I'm an Irishman, I love England, love the United Kingdom, have loved all the years I spent there and lived there.
Tell me what's going on. This latest story is just so outrageous.
But I take it when I go to your site, you're seeing this every day.
peter mcilvenna
We are. And as you said, I was past our cenotaph yesterday.
I passed Montgomery statue yesterday, actually.
Walked past them on Whitehall.
And today, what we find...
Abby Roberts, who is a comedian, she's an out-and-out, quite foul-mouthed, but that's not illegal.
And she was arrested two days ago.
She was outside the COVID inquiry.
We have a COVID inquiry that's going to look at all the failures Matt Hancock, who was the health minister, was at the inquiry giving his evidence of how wave wastes so much money, government control, he would do it again.
All of that. So no change in government policy.
She was outside and she was holding up signs and criticising the government.
I agree that this is going to be a whitewash.
I agree that the vaccines are rolled out without full testing, all of that.
And she was, a police officer came over to her and told her that if she needed to move and then she told him to F off probably because that's Abi.
But it was being filmed.
It wasn't aggressive. She wasn't shouting.
She did it with a smile on her face.
And then the police officer said that she would be arrested if she continued to swear.
So she clarified that.
She was on the walkway, the public walkway.
And she said, well, then F you and F this.
And then the police officer said, well, I'm arresting you under the Public Order Act.
So she was arrested and taken away and released at 3 a.m.
in the morning, which is a tactic the police often use to release people in the middle of the night so they're stuck, they're trapped.
And there's another tactic to show how powerful the police are.
But this obviously was used, this kind of tactic during the demonstrations against COVID. The police were given souped up powers to arrest people.
But that two days ago was the first time that I have ever seen on camera a police officer saying, if you swear, you will be arrested.
And it's on camera.
She wasn't shouting.
She just said the words, F you and F this, to him.
And that was enough to get her arrested.
So that is our new police scene.
steve bannon
Tell me the inquiry.
Because you are having this COVID inquiry, right?
You're having this COVID inquiry. They're going to talk about the vaccine, talk about the lockdown measures.
And when you say it's a whitewash, is that already a foregone conclusion?
Is that what Abby and other people think?
Or is that an assertion?
Or where's the evidence up that you say that this is going to be a whitewash?
Because these are massive issues, particularly at the World Health Organization.
We're talking about the new pandemic treaty.
You know, in Florida today, they're talking about there's malaria because of some genetically modified mosquitoes.
So this is still a big issue, and it's got to be – you have to go through it in detail, and you have to have the voices – That the war room has given a platform to because it turns out we were right and they were wrong.
So is this inquiry going to be open?
Are you going to have those type of voices or what evidence do you have that you can already say it's going to be a whitewash and that Abby in her mind outside says it's going to be a whitewash?
peter mcilvenna
Well, if they're arresting people who are protesting outside, that's one indication.
The second is, up to now, the government have doubled down.
And they said, we did everything right.
And by and large, the media have backed the government, even though there are a few dissenting voices that said, well, maybe they got a few things wrong.
But by and large, the government did the best with the data they had.
That is the line we're taking.
There's no criticism of the billions of pounds of PPE that was bought and binned.
There's no criticism of any government policy.
It's just, well, we need to learn and move on.
And no one's head's going to roll.
I mean, Matt Hancock, who was the Minister of Health, he resigned over breaking the COVID rules.
Rasted Boris. They should all decide over breaking them, as they seem to all be breaking them.
But all that happened, he had to step down as an MP. But then he got a lucrative job in the media.
So it doesn't affect them.
And everything is pointing towards no contrition.
Because if the government do admit they did something wrong, then all hell will pay.
And what about all the people who were locked up, who died, who didn't have access to loved ones?
I mean, there'll be hundreds of thousands of lawsuits, and the government obviously aren't going to let that happen.
So everything we are seeing from the media, every statement from government ministers seems to indicate that actually it was Boris that was the fall guy.
He was pushed out.
It was his fault. Naughty Boris.
But everyone else in there was simply following orders and they'll get off scot-free.
That seems to be what's coming out from politicians and from the media.
steve bannon
Here's what's concerning me.
I follow your site and all the other sites and watch Nigel.
The United Kingdom, our mother country, right, that has an unwritten constitution, but Englishmen have been the first to stand up for about their speech and the belief in speech.
And so many of our revolutionary generation were Englishmen that believed in that.
It's very disturbing where England's going because, and I think this arrest is emblematic of something that's happening very, very quickly.
I noticed there's not the level of discourse.
There's not the level of give and take in the fight that we still have in the United States, even with sites like yours.
Is it because free speech has been so suppressed over there that you're just not going to be in the club, you're going to be fired from your job, you're going to be ostracized, that you're already seeing the temperature come down?
Because quite frankly, with the issues going on with this government and these feckless Tories, there ought to be a firestorm every day in the media.
There ought to be a firestorm in Hyde Park.
There ought to be a firestorm of debate.
I mean, these center-left Tories Combined with the far left Labor Party is driving England into a ditch of which it will never recover.
And then you see the unspoken debate that you see happening, quite frankly, right now in France, as we highlighted in the morning show, where they're essentially this issue of non-assimilation is now up in your face and can't be avoided anymore.
I mean, we actually talked about Camp of the Saints today, and I realize Camp of the Saints has racialism in it.
There's very tough passages in it.
It's got certain elements of it you could say are racist, but it's a very powerful book about how the elites respond to a situation like that.
The book's 50 years old.
Are we seeing the end of free speech in the United Kingdom?
peter mcilvenna
Yes, a couple of reasons.
One, we've got the online safety bill just now at this very final stage.
That will restrict anything that may Possibly cause offence.
Offence is the big thing that's used.
So in the Public Order Act, it says a person is guilty of an offence if he, within the hearing or sight of a person, likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress.
So alarm or distress.
That is the low threshold.
The problem is the threshold.
The bar keeps dropping lower and lower.
Over the last three years, people have been battered and bruised by the media.
Three years worth of fear porn.
And it has worked. And people are afraid now.
They think they have to do what they're told to do because that's what law-abiding citizens do.
And we have always had policing by consent.
Look, that's from Robert Peel, who started the Met Police back in the 1830s.
And it's always been an agreement between the public and the police.
The legitimacy of policing is based on transparency on their powers, integrity in exercising them, and accountability for doing so.
And we've been fairly unique in having that.
But force has been used to exercise that.
You've got a weird mix of Consent, but also force.
But people are afraid and there isn't any political pushback.
There isn't any media pushback.
And people here, as you said about with the latest pandemic or whatever is coming, people think it's their duty simply to do what they are told.
And finally, these police powers, they give absolute discretion to the police.
It's no longer objective.
It's completely subjective.
The police can decide if something could be offensive.
It's not written down. It's not defined.
You can't look and say, I did number six and that was offensive.
It is a term that catches anything and everything up to the police.
So the police are using powers we've never seen before, which is absolutely subjective.
steve bannon
I just want to reiterate, there was a comedian, and you see the video, she basically used the F word outside of this inquiry because she thinks it's a whitewash.
They told her, hey, no profanity.
And on an English street, for the guys in England, for the Englishmen that died, In Normandy 79 years ago of what they were fighting for.
They arrested her when she dropped another F-bomb to kind of challenge that, right?
I just want to make sure they arrested her and took her to jail for the use of profanity.
peter mcilvenna
They did. They arrested her.
It was probably around one o'clock.
And they said, if you swear again, you will be arrested.
And she goes, no, surely not.
And then she talked about the COVID inquiry.
And then she said, well, F you.
They said, you're now being arrested under the Public Order Act.
And she goes, you can't be serious.
And she was discussing with them.
They were reading her rights, handcuffing her and took her away.
And that was midday, one o'clock.
And then she was released at 3am.
There's no reason to release on the 3am.
They could have held her for a few hours.
And of course, people generally get released.
They are not punished further.
But it's that heavy-handed tactic.
And of course, people see that.
The video goes everywhere. And people think, I better just keep my mouth shut.
steve bannon
Exactly. Peter, how do people get to Hearts of Oak?
How do they get to all your content and social media?
peter mcilvenna
So, heartsofoak.org forward slash live stream.
You can watch all the videos or at Hearts of Oak on Getter, Gab, Truth, at Hearts of Oak UK on Twitter.
We had Alex Jones last week.
We had Frank Gaffney last night.
We've had Dr.
Peter McCulloch, Ed Dowd, We've had a fantastic array of guests and really loving having those conversations.
steve bannon
No, you're fantastic.
It's a site everybody's got to go to.
Thanks, Peter. Thanks for taking time away to join us.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve. Noor Bin Laden.
steve bannon
Before I talk about the archive, I want your observations.
You've got the Moms for Liberty in Philadelphia.
The group has kind of just come up the last couple of years because they start with the mask, and then it went to what the moms are looking at on the computer as the kids were locked down in COVID. And then you've got the situation in the United Kingdom where they're going to have the COVID inquiry.
But of any citizens outside, right?
And I'm sure this comedian's not MAGA. She's probably not a right-winger like we are.
But she's out there saying, hey, this is going to be a whitewash.
This is just what the government wants us to tell.
And I'm going to throw an F-bomb and tell you what I think.
What's your assessment? Where are we now in the West, which used to be the backbone of liberty and the backbone of freedom, particularly the United States, and particularly Philadelphia and London?
Your observations, man.
noor bin laden
If I may just add to this list of all the madness of today, I don't know if you saw but a couple of hours ago, Macron blamed social media networks for the riots and he is calling for the authorities to take steps to curb the information that is circulating online to remove quote sensitive content and to quote identify those who call for disorder.
Listen, Steve, it's always the same playbook, problem, reaction, solution.
They have this plethora of crises that they use all over the place in order to justify one thing only, the crackdown on our freedoms.
This is social engineering on multiple fronts, and this has been going on For a very long time, over a century, for sure.
And this is, you know, the core of what I do with my research.
And, you know, this is what we discussed in the article with Raw Egg Nationalists that you read.
And coming back to specifically what Captain Bannon and Jane was talking about, this is so important because they are They are mutilating and castrating our children, and we have to understand that this is perhaps the most extreme aspect of this population control agenda, of this eugenicist agenda.
This is the culmination of this, but for over a hundred years they've been poisoning us, mind, body and soul, with the intent of reducing the population.
steve bannon
You think this is all part of that plan.
You can connect those dots and you say that this is...
By the way, I want to say I'm so glad we finally got Nora indoors.
I think every time we get her, she's either freezing outside in Geneva or Davos or in the blazing heat like it was last time.
I'm so glad we got you indoors.
I'll get to that after break.
Let's go back to, because we had Rahim on this morning.
Talk to us about the situation in, particularly, it's not, Macron is dancing last night at an Elton John concert.
Why some of the finest streets in Paris, beautiful Paris, some of the boutique streets are literally being looted, robbed, burned down, and destroyed.
And it's like the elites can't be bothered.
We got about a minute before we go to break.
Your thoughts on just this situation in France and the elites' response?
noor bin laden
This is what I mean by manufactured crisis that are being used against us in turn.
And you have this situation in Europe, as you mentioned, in France, but also in Germany, in Sweden.
We know that this migration, so-called crisis, has been fully engineered.
And they have willfully brought in these people who come from other parts of the world, who have different civilizations, who have different codes, And cultures.
And you follow this very closely, Steve, what happened with Angela Merkel in 2015 and the Arab Spring with Obama, how they went and bombed so many of these places and then used this as a justification to have them pour in.
So I remember we had also discussed this together on the show when the whole crisis in Afghanistan happened.
They are creating the crisis And then bringing in these terrorists, or some of them are not terrorists, but they are absolutely wrecking havoc in the society, and then they are using this as a pretext to crack down on our freedoms.
steve bannon
Hang on one second. We're going to a short commercial break.
Noor Bin Laden. We've got her indoors and we have a great connection.
So we're going to enjoy. She's a feature of a major magazine piece I want to get into.
But we've got a lot of other questions before that.
short break back with nor bin laden in a moment anon okay welcome back uh nort before i get to the magazine i want to go back to france for a second so our audience understands this the the
We had Rahim on today, and he was talking about Enoch Powell and about his controversial book he wrote in the early years at Breitbart almost 10 years ago about no-go zones.
Is French society and French civilization doing enough to try to assimilate these folks who have basically come from French colonies?
I take it most of these are still from Algeria or parts of Morocco, things that have been part of the French Empire.
With this open immigration, have they done enough?
And you talked about You know, the Syrian situation with Merkel in Switzerland, in Germany, in the Low Countries, in the rest of continental Europe, are they doing enough?
If these policies have been the policies to let these people in, are those societies doing enough to try to assimilate them into the culture?
noor bin laden
No, because the reason is because they want the chaos.
They want the chaos in the streets.
These people are left to be in what we call banlieue in French.
and they are completely secluded and they are not integrated in any way and This is what happens.
You have then these clashes between these different cultures and these populations.
But the question that I've been asking myself for the past few years is why are we in this situation in the first place?
Why are they importing all these migrants?
They are not refugees.
These are men that are of working age, the majority of them.
And you just have to look, you know, we were talking about this with Rahim the other day.
Meloni in Italy who is supposed to be this populist leader who is a total fake it turns out is importing thousands of migrants per day into Italy and then they go up north and the continent is being completely taken over the streets are not safe more or less anywhere in cities that's for sure and it's You know,
it's part of an overall destruction plan for the Western civilization.
steve bannon
So, this is the Davis Cross, but you've got from Sweden to Norway to the Low Countries.
Now, obviously, France has exploded.
I know it's a huge issue in Switzerland.
In Italy, it's changed governments.
Why, if it's the elites trying to do this and the Davos set that's trying to do this and understand because it's part of their depopulation, they want to cause chaos, they want to make the middle class and working class more miserable because they're into this depopulation.
Let's say I agree with your thesis.
Even if that's the case, why, and this is what shocked me when I spent basically 18 and 19 in Europe, starting the beginning of this populist nationalist movement.
Why are more politicians and why are more citizens not outright and outraged by this?
You have elements, Alternative for Deutschland, you have these parties, but still these parties...
Are relatively small. I mean, even Nigel Farage, with everything he did on Brexit and his grade, the most important political thing probably in 150 years in the United Kingdom, he was never even able to get elected to Parliament.
He's the first to admit that. Where are the politicians, but more importantly, where's the anger and the energy coming from working class and middle class people to force politicians at the tip of a band net to get to work here?
noor bin laden
I think Peter was speaking about this very well.
You know, people get scared and there is such a deterrent for people just to keep quiet.
But that being said, it is very troubling to me to see that not more people are speaking up.
I mean, we had this tragedy in ANSI, what was it, a month ago, three weeks ago?
Where one of these migrants stabbed toddlers at a park in broad daylight.
It was absolutely horrific.
Nobody's talking about this anymore because the news cycle is just so intense and crazy.
But it's just like everything else, right?
It's like the pandemic. It's like the Moms for Liberty.
And thankfully, you do have groups that are speaking up.
You would imagine that there would be much, much, much more people just being so angry, especially about what we were talking about earlier, the mutilation and castration of our children.
But I think people have been so disconnected, and we go back to the article and the subject that We've been researching, that I've been researching, which is the social engineering of the 20th century.
We have been brought to this point where we are so desensitized.
Can you say that word in English?
unidentified
Desensitized? Yes.
noor bin laden
From this degeneracy.
This degeneracy and this evil.
steve bannon
I want to talk, I want to go to this magazine, if we can put it up on the, what based women want, an interview with Noor Bin Laden.
I got to tell you, Noor, as many years as we've had you on The War Room, and as people love you as a contributor, and just the hard-hitting reporting, and the brilliant analysis, this interview is just, it's amazing.
And I want everybody to read it. Just the first paragraph.
When you look at the state of manhood in the West, it's clear that we're witnessing a time when the feminization of men is reaching its climax after years of policies and social engineering.
So states this magazine article.
First off, how did they come to select you?
Then I want you to walk me through the central thesis of this interview because it's profound and it's powerful.
noor bin laden
I'd like to give a shout out to my very talented and dear friend Raw Egg Nationalist who publishes this magazine called Man's World.
And he gave me the honor of interviewing me for this piece and we had actually fun doing it even though the subject we covered is incredibly dark.
And I'll just take the opportunity to also mention another collaboration we did.
He also gave me the honor of writing the foreword to his book, The Eggs Benedict Option.
And if you enjoyed the article, Steve, you'll really enjoy the book.
And I just wanted to read a quote from my foreword because I mentioned Paul Ehrlich in the article.
And so I wanted to read this to you.
It was Ehrlich who in 1969 stated to the United States Commission for UNESCO that the government might have to put sterility drugs in reservoirs and in food shipped to foreign countries to limit human multiplication.
And so in that foreword, I go more into depth in the subjects that we discussed in the article.
steve bannon
But hang, let's not bury the lead here.
Paul Ehrlich was the population bomb for the audience.
I mean, he was a senior professor, I think at Stanford, and he was considered, this is not some crank.
This is not some guy in a block site that they didn't have back then.
This is a guy that was considered at the time In the United States and by policymakers and the culture and the elites as being the single biggest, best thinker, deepest, most profound thinker of this issue of population in the world.
I think he wrote the book, The Population Bomb, right?
I mean, this was a player. This wasn't some crank.
noor bin laden
No, no, he was the Anthony Fauci of the population control movement, essentially.
And it's the same with these climate peddlers, climate change peddlers.
We have this class of society that is put forward, that is promoted ad nauseum by our elite to make the population believe in all their lies, which serve to only Poison and weaken and undermine us.
And so this Paul Ehrlich guy, you're absolutely right, Steve.
He was one of the leading figures of the second half of the 20th century.
And if you look at what he's promoted, it's just so nefarious and evil, as you can gather from the quote I just read you.
And he's still respected.
I think he was on 60 Minutes earlier this year for an interview.
And you see this narrative of climate change and of the population growth issue go hand in hand, right?
Still to this day. And this is, I think, the main topic that we discussed in the article with Ren, to talk about eugenicism, which now, you know, is such a tainted word.
It has then been rebranded into population control.
steve bannon
Let me get there, but I just want to go back into the theory of the case and then take it from the other population.
Their theory is that the Earth as a biosphere has only so much carrying capacity.
When I did the restructuring of the biosphere for the Bass family back in the early 90s, we had to put in bankruptcy and restructuring and bring in scientists.
I had to, for several years, deal with the leaders of what then was the beginning of the climate change movement.
And they already had this concept that the Earth as a biosphere, as an integrated system, only has the carrying capacity for so many humans.
And Jane Goodall was one of the advisors' things.
And the number then wasn't 500 million, but that's been bandied about.
Isn't that how they tie climate to the population?
You know, Ehrlich and these guys couldn't sell it back then because their numbers were always wrong, right?
But the way they sell this today is that they say the Earth as a system has only so much carrying capacity, and we've got to essentially get the Earth down to that carrying capacity, or we're going to destroy the system.
And obviously it will be the elites.
The 500 million will be the elites and then they're either transhumanist drones or the proletariat that work underneath them.
Is that essentially the construct of what they're arguing?
noor bin laden
Absolutely. This is the narrative that they've built and that they're trying to sell to the public.
And you have Essentially, the world is run by a criminal cartel and oligarchy that want to have full control over all of the world's resources.
And the book and the work that we do with Ren when we collaborate is especially focusing on the food aspect and also the water supply, because that is such an essential part of it, right?
Because by making us sick, We become weak and weak populations are much easier to control.
And so you have this scene that was in the news, I think it was yesterday or the day before yesterday, of Prince Charles, another major globalist WEF proponent, with the mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, activating the climate clock.
And obviously your audience will be very aware also of Figures like Greta Thunberg and all these talking heads that are being pushed down our throats with their message, where inevitably, as I mentioned at the beginning of the segment, it's always the same playbook.
They have this crisis, the pandemic, the climate change hoax, the population bomb, the migration crisis.
It's always the same playbook, Steve.
They have a crisis and then they propose the solution, except that inevitably, The solutions that they propose always lead to the eradication and erosion of our freedoms and our most basic fundamental values.
And this ties in with what we've been reporting, you know, from the WEF, the WHO. They want to control every single aspect of our lives.
They want us to live in the pods, to eat the bugs, to have everything tracked and traced via their digital currencies and their digital passports.
steve bannon
And essentially... And the argument, I'm going to show a manifestation so that, you know, we know a lot of particularly producers, junior producers on the left all watch the show to see where MAGA's thinking and where the globalist, populist, nationalist movement's thinking.
To back up your point, let's just go to, we've had NORON now for the last couple of years, but in the last year, several times from Geneva and Davis and other places, reporting directly on the WHO, the World Health Organization, and the pandemic treaty.
And the show that's not a conspiracy theory, they actually now have it.
We just had Reggie Littlejohn on yesterday.
They've got it. It's ready to be, you know, they're fine-tuning it.
It's ready to be ratified next May.
And it's everything you just said right there, it's manifested in what they've actually laid out in this agreement.
Is that correct? So to show that you're not some crazed wingnut, that's actually in that agreement, is it not, Nur bin Laden?
noor bin laden
I mean, they don't care.
They'll still call me a crazed right wing nut.
But the truth is that everything is out in the open, Steve.
And you just look at all their writings, their interviews.
They say it in plain English.
And this is also one of the strengths of Ren's book, is that at the beginning, he just takes the paperwork and the information that has been published by these organizations and their And their representatives themselves.
And so, as I write in the foreword, why are we talking about conspiracies?
Because if you look at the definition of conspiracy, it's something that is hidden.
And nothing is hidden.
Everything is in plain sight.
steve bannon
By the way, one of the homework assignments over the weekend is you read the Man's World interview, What Based Women Want, an interview with Noor Bin Laden.
And I guarantee you when you pick it up, you won't put it down.
Also, I want to make sure that you get access to the book, The Eggs Benedict Option, and you wrote the forward for that.
Here's a question. You've got so many people, and now we're getting on our show, and you're one of the leaders of this, public intellectuals, or people that see through this and are countering the narrative.
Given my time in Europe and living in Paris and living in London and getting to know people, why are there not more?
Because I know behind the scenes there, why are more public intellectuals and people that have gone to these great universities in Europe that are clearly incredibly smart, why are more of them not coming out And taking public stances like you are and others, but you can count those a couple of handful.
What are we missing about why it's so obvious what's going on?
Why is there not more outrage from the public intellectuals?
noor bin laden
I think it's very much cultural and, you know, as a lover and admirer of America, I really do believe that it's down to The spirit of Americans and that's why I'm calling for a revival of the 1776 spirit ahead of this 4th of July.
And you know Europe is or Europeans rather are very comfortable are a comfortable population and the intellectuals are very happy being in their cushy jobs and they don't want to rock the boat too much I would assume.
And this is why it's been very Painful to watch the capture of the American elite And of these institutions that have been completely weaponized and are filled with all these globalist minions who are parroting the agenda.
Because the leaders of America are very much against everything that the globalists stand for, the true leaders of America.
I'm not talking about the ANOs, of course, the Americans in name only, but all the true America firsters, you know.
And so that's why, you know, I've been very adamant and very vocal about the fight for America because it is via the United States of America and your independence, securing your independence once again that the rest of the world has a chance.
And so once more, you know, ahead of the 4th of July, I just want to say I'm 100% MAGA through and through.
I've always been, always on the train, but there's one term I'd like to To repeat, I've said it a few times on my social media, but we have to make America independent again.
I think this is very important to understand.
And for the people who've been following me on your show, you know, I talk a lot about how the United States has been subverted.
And this is very important for people to know about and to educate themselves about and to understand that essentially since the Treaty of Paris, if I'm not mistaken, in 1783, there has been a concerted effort to take back the country and to essentially remove any form of sovereignty for the United States and for its population.
And we are witnessing, unfortunately, the result of over 240 plus years of this fight going on behind the scenes.
steve bannon
Nor, I don't think there could be a better way to kick off the long weekend here than with that right there.
And we're going to make sure everybody gets to your site and starts to understand your thinking more.
It also goes to show you that many times in our history...
The people that understand the country and really understand the vital force of the country are not just people who are not Americans, but are people who are not Americans who don't live in the United States of America, but can appreciate her and observe it from a distance.
And I think that's why you being in Switzerland is so powerful.
And I think it's one of the reasons this audience loves you so much and really loves your appearances on the show and your thoughts and observations.
Really, we've got to get you inside more often.
You're great outdoors, but I mean, you're literally on fire here.
Nora, how do people get to you?
How do they get to your ratings? I want to make sure we get to the magazine.
I want to make sure you get to Raw Egg Nationalist book, The Eggs Benedict Option, all of it.
noor bin laden
Where do folks go? Steve, just one thing I wanted to thank you for your very kind words.
And this quote from Benjamin Franklin comes to mind.
Where liberty dwells, there is my country.
And so thank you so much for including me on the War Room.
It's always great to be with you and the posse, and I'll be thinking of you from over here for this 4th of July, and hopefully I can come and celebrate with you in person maybe next year.
steve bannon
Fantastic. Where do people go to get all your writings, everything, the magazine article, the book, all of it?
noor bin laden
My website is norbinladin.com, Twitter and getter at norbinladin.
And the magazine, the website I believe is mansworld.online and the book The Eggs Benedict Option can be found on most websites including Amazon.
And we also just released the audio version.
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People have the choice. By the way, I actually ordered the book a while ago.
steve bannon
I'm going to read it over this weekend.
I ordered a while ago because I saw where you had written the foreword, so I will delve into it.
Thank you so much, Norah Bin Laden.
Thank you. Thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you. Thank you. Okay, what a way to kick it off.
We're going to be back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
A couple things. Go to Amazon right now.
Dark Eon, Joe Allen's tour de force on transhumanism and the war against humanity is up there.
Also, Birchgold.com slash Bannon homework assignment.
I think we're 44 days out from Durban, the Durban Accords.
This is going to be one of the most important meetings of not just this year or any year.
It's really the Bretton Woods of the developing nations and their focus is to get some sort of gold back.
Currency that's counter to the U.S. dollar.
You need to find everything about this.
Birchgold.com. But also, ask Philip Patrick and the team, why are the central banks buying more gold than ever?
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