June 30, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| Mega Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
| War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The 14th Amendment, the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, it was not passed to help white bail sons like Jarrett Kushner and Brett Avanagh get into school, okay? | ||
| The first time that we had affirmative action in this country was not the 1960s, it was the 1860s. | ||
| We had affirmative action during Reconstruction. | ||
| And we know that the affirmative action during Reconstruction was constitutional because they ratified the 14th Amendment so that they could pass legislation that would help to revoke the racism of the past, and those policies included affirmative action. | ||
| So as Kataji Brown Jackson pointed out in her dissent and at oral arguments, the Supreme Court was just flatly wrong on the law. | ||
| Now, we can all know why the Supreme Court decided to get this particular law so wrong, and it wasn't to help the AAPI students who were trying to get into Harvard and Yale. | ||
| It was to trying to help mediocre white students who feel out-competed and blame black students for, quote-unquote, taking their spots. | ||
| It was a terrible decision on the law, but we all know the real reason why people like John Roberts did it. | ||
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Yeah, I mean, Jonathan, you know, I have the privilege of being with students for about three and a half to four months in their intellectual journey. | |
| And the whole point of upper-level education is for us to be in a classroom and tussle with ideas and not all agree. | ||
| The whole point of education, especially liberal arts education, isn't to have drones and clones. | ||
| Sort of thinking what I think or all thinking the same thing. | ||
| The whole point of the intellectual journey is to strengthen your foundation and we can actually take ideas and look at them and see what you believe, what your parents believed, who are you? | ||
| And I'm trying to prepare you for the world outside of the institution so you can actually grapple with these things. | ||
| But I do want to circle back really quickly, Jonathan, to an important point President Roth said. | ||
| that we have to look at this decision, which we knew was coming, it's a slow train coming into the station, but in the context of K-12 education, we're focusing a lot, obviously, on the universities and the decision that affects us in upper-level education. | ||
| But it's the inequity in the K-12 situation that we really must address, because that's what leads us to these conversations when we're trying to build a really diverse classroom, and that's diversity in all senses of the word, whether it's race, ethnicity, sexuality, geography, class, you name it. | ||
| Of a school that's trying to put together a diverse class that represents the United States, what does this change for you? | ||
| you. How do you now approach admissions? How are things different for you this morning than they were yesterday? | ||
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Well, the Supreme Court has sent a strong signal to colleges and universities and to the whole country that we should be following a color blind policy while at the same time, the country is still wracked by prejudice, discrimination, obstacles put in front of people of color from a very young age. | |
| So this notion that we should have a colorblind envelope for all our decisions flies in the face of the evidence that we have that some students have lots more advantages than others and that the country remains very much divided by race. | ||
| So, we have always followed an admissions policy that looks at race in context. | ||
| That is, we look at racial disadvantages and privileges that other students have in the context that they experience in high school and the context that brings them to application to college and university. | ||
| We're going to continue to do that. | ||
| We're going to be very careful not to Here, to emphasize race as opposed to other factors, we don't think we've done that in the past. | ||
| I see this as a government intrusion into colleges and universities' admissions policies to defend a notion of colorblindness that is really at odds with the reality in the United States. | ||
| And so as a practical question now, if you put yourself in the room with those admissions counselors who are going through these applications, how does this change the way they look at an application? | ||
| I mean, a student describes his or her race on the application. | ||
| So what do you do with that information now? | ||
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What we'll do with it, pretty much what we've done, which is to put that information in context. | |
| It is certainly the case that there are some students of color who have had enormous advantages growing up. | ||
| There are some students of color who are from wealthy families, and they have advantages, and we put that in context, as we have in the past. | ||
| The difference is that we won't get that information at first glance. | ||
| There won't be a box to be checked. | ||
| For us, that's never been that important because we're a small school, 3,200 students. | ||
| We can look at each individual application in great detail. | ||
| We'll look at essays. | ||
| We'll look at other information from teachers and from the schools the students have attended, as we have in the past. | ||
| I think the real issue will be for the larger publics that have so many more applications and they will be deprived of a piece of information. | ||
| But I think the real issue here Is that higher education and K-12 education in the United States is still built on racial discrimination. | ||
| And the court is pretending that's not the case. | ||
| The real issue here isn't who gets into Harvard or who gets into Wesleyan. | ||
| That's a tiny, tiny percentage of the students who are looking at colleges and universities. | ||
| The real issue is how do we build a more equitable education system in the United States? | ||
| This decision won't help us in that regard. | ||
| It's Friday, 30 June, Year of Our Lord 2023. | ||
| It's the last day of the first half of 2023. | ||
| We're going to try to get a check of where we are today in our country and the world. | ||
| Raheem Kassam is going to join us in a little while. | ||
| Mark Mitchell at Rasmus and E.J. and Tony from the Steve Moore Group about economics and over at Heritage to talk about where this economy is and Bidenomics since they're selling it. | ||
| Boris is going to join us on the campaign. | ||
| Hopefully, Garrett Ziegler, I think we can track him down about the latest developments in the corruption, influence peddling, selling the country out of not just the Bidens, but the entire apparatus. | ||
| Joe Allen here. A lot of big news today about War Room. | ||
| Joe Allen's going to be here with us. | ||
| We're going to talk about it. Of course, Mo and Jane Zirkle are at the Moms for Liberty conference that starts today over the weekend. | ||
| We'll be there live. Also talking about the Cary Lake. | ||
| They head the bed minister. So we got so much. | ||
| And there's even more than that. | ||
| So we're going to try to get through it all. | ||
| Oh, Joe Kent. | ||
| Huge story in the Wall Street Journal about war. | ||
| The woke military missing their recruiting requirements, and it's because veterans and families with veterans in it are not pushing their kids to go in the military, like Mo going to West Point. | ||
| So it's a big article. | ||
| It's a huge issue, and Joe Kent's going to join us, so we've got a lot to get to. | ||
| I want to start with Raynard Jackson. | ||
| Obviously very controversial yesterday. | ||
| Raynard, you've been dealing with this Your professional career for many, many decades, but also your family's been dealing with this for over half a century in the technical aspects of it. | ||
| Walk us through yesterday. | ||
| We had the cold open. | ||
| And by the way, I'm pulling the part of the cold open because you talk about that one woman was there with the indoctrination of children. | ||
| You know, to get their minds right on gender, sex, all of it. | ||
| Pretty scary. Raynard Jackson, your assessment given your historical involvement with this, your historic involvement with this, of the decision, and where do we go from here, sir? | ||
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Well, bottom line, Steve, and thanks for having me. | |
| I agree with the Supreme Court's decision, and I think Clarence Thomas' reasoning was impeccable. | ||
| But here's the problem, Steve. | ||
| Conservatives need to be very careful. | ||
| Hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
| Hang on a second. Ho, ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Aren't you and Clarence Thomas... | ||
| Aren't you guys just a bunch of Uncle Toms? | ||
| Oh, of course. You're just blackface cover for a bunch of right-wing white nationalists, domestic terrorists, Raynor Jackson. | ||
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Yeah, we're the blackface of white supremacy, Steve, and you know you're one of my best white nationalists I know. | |
| But again, my issue is I agree with the decision. | ||
| I agree with Justice Thomas' rationale. | ||
| Conservatives need to be careful to this extent, Steve. | ||
| Proverbs 4.7 says, wisdom is the principle thing, therefore get wisdom, and with all thy getting, get understanding. | ||
| I don't see from the conservative side them having an understanding for why affirmative action came about in the 1960s. | ||
| My uncle was the father of affirmative action. | ||
| He was the highest ranking Black in the Nixon administration, Arthur Fletcher, who died back in 2015. | ||
| And it started out, Steve, as the Philadelphia Plan, named after the city of Philadelphia, and morphed into what we now know as affirmative action. | ||
| And my godfather, Art Fletcher, predicted this day would happen, or yesterday, with the Supreme Court because liberals took the program, Steve, and totally prostituted it until it's unrecognizable. | ||
| Let me read what the original intention of affirmative action was. | ||
| Back in the 60s. | ||
| On June 27, 1969, Fletcher, who was appointed by Nixon to be Assistant Secretary of Labor in the White House, Fletcher implemented the revised Philadelphia Plan, | ||
| the nation's first federal affirmative action program, which required, and here's the key part, the federal contractors To meet specified goals in minority hiring for skilled, that's the emphasis, skilled job in the notoriously segregated construction industry. | ||
| So Steve, back then affirmative action, it was a presumption, it was a given that you were skilled and qualified. | ||
| For the jobs and contracts you were applying for. | ||
| Today's affirmative action, Steve, has been so watered down where race has become the only factor in determining whether you get the job contract or admission into schools. | ||
| And so, that was a different—Kantanji Jackson, Brown Jackson, the newest Supreme Court, the black female first on the Supreme Court, Biden said, I'm picking a woman and a black. | ||
| Not the most skilled and the best qualified judicial thinker, but they have to meet this color requirement and gender requirement. | ||
| That's a prostitution, Steve, of what my uncle fought and died for, a lifetime Republican and military vet. | ||
| He didn't fight for the box. | ||
| Let's go back to Arthur Fletcher. | ||
| The point you're saying is that with having the skills, they were being discriminated against and being blocked out of these construction jobs. | ||
| So the impetus here was to make sure that people couldn't be discriminated against if you could deliver the same goods and services, if you could provide the same skill level. | ||
| Is that basically what affirmative action was? | ||
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Yeah, skill. So the presumption was you had value to bring. | |
| You were qualified and you were skilled at whatever you were pursuing. | ||
| So the issue was you're skilled, you meet all the requirements, but through the color of your skin in 1969, Steve, you were prohibited from getting that opportunity because you met every other requirement that a white person would meet. | ||
| But strictly on the basis of your skin color, you were denied. | ||
| That's the history of affirmative action. | ||
| Oh, let me tell you this, by the way, Steve. | ||
| Do you realize that the biggest beneficiary of affirmative action practiced today is not Blacks, Hispanics, or Indians? | ||
| It's white, suburban, middle-class women who are married to the CEOs of Coca-Cola and Delta Airlines. | ||
| The people who need it least are the biggest beneficiaries. | ||
| So when I heard all these liberal Blacks yesterday screaming, the sky is falling, Steve, I'm like, so if everyone concedes that Blacks are not the primary beneficiary of affirmative action, how is getting rid of it devastating to the Black community? | ||
| What is the evidence? | ||
| I'm going to hold you through the break. We've got 30 seconds. | ||
| What's the evidence to back up that last claim about the suburban Karens are the beneficiaries? | ||
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Every study that has been done, Steve, it's public information, has indicated that white females are overwhelmingly the biggest beneficiary of affirmative action, not the minority community. | |
| Women became a minority in the early 70s, and they ripped all these benefits away from the black community. | ||
| Okay, Reinhard, can you hang for a second? | ||
| We're going to host you the break. Rahim's going to join us in National Pulse. | ||
| He's got some really blockbuster investigative reporting about the Iranian community in DeSantis. | ||
| But Rahim is an expert on the issue of Europe and what's happening in France. | ||
| And we're going to have him here, Mark Mitchell. | ||
| Looks like Rasmussen's been banned from the ABC polling group because he comes on The War Room and Fox News. | ||
| A lot to get through. Buckle in. | ||
| You're in the war room. So, Raynard, I want to talk, because you're always, you're in the conservatives and the Republican Party's face all the time about this issue. | ||
| Haven't, hasn't, the reason we're in this position, and you've got all these radicals up on MSNBC and the country's in this position, is that the Republican Party's essentially the controlled opposition. | ||
| They really haven't fought it. | ||
| You've never heard your argument. | ||
| You've never seen the spirit of Arthur Fletcher back in this conversation. | ||
| Am I incorrect on that? | ||
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That's exactly right, Steve. | |
| And so in the commentary I've been hearing from prominent Republicans and members of Congress yesterday, I'm concerned, Steve, because, again, as you know, I've been Black most of my life, and I talk with Blacks across the spectrum, some of my friends in the White House currently saying, This argument from the Republican side in response to the Supreme Court's decision, a lot of it is borderline racist, Steve, and it's coming across that way. | ||
| I know a lot of these major conservatives, I know they're not racist at all, but because they lack the understanding and the nuance of why affirmative action was necessitated, most of these guys don't know who Art Fletcher was, Steve. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| So any of these conservatives listening to the war room today, Steve, I am available to train and teach you on the nuances. | ||
| I sat at Art Fletcher's feet, Steve, for well over 30 years of my life, listening to the inside story of how affirmative action came to be. | ||
| I know all the backroom politicking that was going on in the Nixon White House with the liberal Democrats. | ||
| So The conservatives need to understand the nuance of this issue before they get in front of a camera. | ||
| And you had the giant Daniel Patrick Monaghan was a big part of this. | ||
| What is, right before I let you go, the argument you heard yesterday, because the Republicans are so afraid of being called racist, this is why they all run to the hills all the time. | ||
| What is the argument they're making that you think is borderline racist? | ||
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Well, they have this perverted notion of America being a colorblind society. | |
| Steve, you know some of the meetings I go to within the conservative movement. | ||
| Steve, if you don't notice as a leader That there's not one Black person in a room and you're talking about civil rights, you're talking about economic development, you're talking about foreign policy. | ||
| If you don't notice that everyone in the room is white, there's a problem, Steve. | ||
| No, you should not treat me better or worse because of my color. | ||
| But I think there is a value in diversity because, Steve, I bring a voice to the conservative movement that no one else is going to bring just because of my experience. | ||
| And also, I'm Black. | ||
| And so that's not Bing County, Steve. | ||
| That's just good business. | ||
| And so too many conservatives don't see the absence of black in the conservative movement in the decision-making rooms when they're working on policy issues, Steve. | ||
| And that's the issue I have. | ||
| You see this all the time with Royce White, when Royce White's hammering the Federal Reserve and talking about the currency. | ||
| They're going like, who's Royce White? He knows more about this topic than anybody, right? | ||
| Oh, he should be talking about race. Well, no, he's talking about the Federal Reserve, right? He's talking about class and money. | ||
| But you see it all the time. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| It's very important for you to get the word on Arthur Fletcher out who is a giant. | ||
| And this is the amazing thing. | ||
| The Republican Party, which is the party of Lincoln, it's so turned upside down about how they address this and how they're, quite frankly, afraid to embrace their heritage and the cultural tap roots of the Republican Party. | ||
| How do people get to you and how they get to know more about Arthur Fletcher? | ||
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Yes, they can reach me on Getter at just my name, Raynard Jackson, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, everything, just my name, Raynard Jackson, and our group Black Americans for a Better Future, go to BAFBF.org to read more about what we're doing to get more Blacks involved in the conservative movement. | |
| Democrats have pissed off Black folks to the highest level of passivity. | ||
| But unfortunately, my biggest concern, Steve, is that Democrats don't view Republican and conservative as a viable alternative, even though they do not like the state of where they are in the Democratic Party. | ||
| We have to be a viable alternative, and we can get 25, 30 percent of the black vote next November 24th, Steve. | ||
| I can guarantee you that can happen, but we have to present a viable alternative to the disaffected blacks in the Democratic Party. | ||
| I agree with you one million percent, sir. | ||
| And Raynard, by the way, his group is one of the top groups for entrepreneurism. | ||
| So, fantastic. | ||
| Raynard, thank you today and thank you for bringing up the spirit of Arthur Fletcher, one of the giants of our country. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. Thanks, brother. | |
| Rahim, I got Mark Mitchell, but I got to get Rahim in here. | ||
| Rahim, the situation, if we could play the French footage. | ||
| Rahim, you know, before taking, starting National Pulse, and even in your days of leading Brexit with Nigel Farage to get the sovereignty of the British people back, you were one of the top experts in the world and wrote a couple of blockbuster books, one specific blockbuster book. | ||
| About the immigration situation in France and the problem that this entails. | ||
| By the way, we're showing right now Macron at an Elton John concert dancing, though my producer says he wasn't actually dancing, he was participating. | ||
| And then you see this meltdown in France. | ||
| Rahim, you know this area better than anybody, this line of work. | ||
| Tell us what's going on in France and the fecklessness of the French elite in dealing with this, sir. | ||
| Yeah, look, I mean, I've said it for time immemorial at this point, the French are revolting. | ||
| And whether it's the new French or the old French, this is a commonplace thing. | ||
| But it's getting wildly out of control. | ||
| 900 arrests now overnight due to looting and rioting in central Paris and the Parisian suburbs. | ||
| Specifically, the one that people are paying the most attention to at the moment is this one suburb, Nanterre. | ||
| Nanterre actually, ironically, being where the Rassemblement National Marine Le Pen's Party headquarters has been for the last several years. | ||
| It's not a particularly nice neighborhood anymore. | ||
| It's not a particularly safe neighborhood anymore. | ||
| And this goes to the heart of what you were alluding to just now, right? | ||
| I wrote this book called No-Go Zones back in 2017 where I actually went to all of these neighborhoods across Europe and some even across places in America to see how assimilation and integration was happening and if it was happening at all. | ||
| In vast areas of France, and you're now seeing this metastasize into what we all had said was going to happen with this anyway. | ||
| There are ghettos, and there are ghettoized communities. | ||
| And when I say ghettoized communities, what I mean is Ghettos of people who don't speak the local language. | ||
| In England, they don't speak English. | ||
| In France, they don't speak French. | ||
| Ghettos where Arab nationalism is celebrated more than being French or being Parisian. | ||
| And ghettos where crime is very difficult to police because there is this aversion, there is a hostility towards cops. | ||
| uh... and you've seen that take place over the last several years uh... where police would go into these neighborhoods trying to break up fights trying to rest criminals and then be set upon attack themselves calls alone for police calls on fire buses on fire ambulances non-fi ironically fire engines loan firing you see it year upon year upon year so that's what's happening france now it's written larger this time and and you're right the the response from the french establishment is effectively to do nothing. | ||
| Yes, they're deploying more police. | ||
| There's 40,000, I think, more police being deployed to the streets of Paris, but that's to defend them and defend their nice buildings and defend their ability to go to dance at Elton John concerts, right? | ||
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In terms of actually dealing with the assimilation problem, nothing. | |
| This was started with a Moroccan, individual Moroccan descent being shot by the police and trying to get away in a car, I guess. | ||
| And that police action has led to this. | ||
| Last night they went to one of the, if you've ever gone to Paris, one of the nicest streets in Paris for all the boutiques. | ||
| Mm-hmm. They were looting and burning the batiks, right, while he danced. | ||
| You know, we used to talk about there's a very controversial book called Camp of the Saints that has strong... | ||
| It's very difficult to read because it's got a lot of racial elements to it and maybe some racist parts to it. | ||
| But the point of the book is about the... | ||
| The guy wrote it 50 years ago about the French elites not being able to deal with problems like this and just looking the other way as society collapses. | ||
| Is that what we're seeing here in France, do you think, throughout other parts of... | ||
| So this 17-year-old, right, Moroccan-Algerian descent, Nahal, was shot as he was trying to drive away from what should have effectively been a routine police stop. | ||
| And the problem that you have here with that, you know, with that situation is that for years now, in these neighborhoods specifically, police try and stop, you know, people that they think are, you know, people driving erratically, people who think they have committed a crime, whatever the reason, speeding, whatever. And they get set upon, right? | ||
| And they get set on fire in some cases. | ||
| And they get shot in some cases. | ||
| So a couple of years ago, they changed the law where police now in France are allowed to deploy their firearms in response to these incidents. | ||
| And this kid in hell starts driving off during a stop and the policeman, you know, uses his firearm because he thinks, hey, this guy could go and run somebody over, could run us over. | ||
| And that's where this tension is coming from. | ||
| I mean, in my book, I go into quite some detail about how Robert Menard, who the mayor in one of the southern French towns, has gone to extreme lengths to recruit people from the migrant community to be police officers in migrant communities because they just won't listen to French cops. | ||
| They won't listen to white cops, quite frankly. | ||
| And that comes to your point, right? | ||
| The racialism that's inherent in Camp of the Saints is actually a two-way racialism. | ||
| It's saying that you cannot expect the mass migrant population to assimilate because they won't or don't. | ||
| And by the way, you'll find that in the Aeneid as well, where the prophet Sybil tells Aeneas, hey, you go to Rome, you're going to have some problems because they won't like it. | ||
| And you won't like it, right? | ||
| That's where Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood quote comes from. | ||
| And then the racialism goes the other way. | ||
| It's like, hey, we don't care that we're in your country. | ||
| We're not going to listen to you. We don't respect you. | ||
| You know, kill Whitey is for all they're concerned. | ||
| And you do see that. | ||
| You see that rhetoric en masse coming out of some of these suburbs and some of these communities. | ||
| You see terrorism, right? | ||
| The blowing up of children at concerts and the harbouring. | ||
| of terrorists and criminals. | ||
| Whether it's in Molenbeek in Belgium, whether it's in Parisian suburbs, whether it's in East London, you see it all over the place. | ||
| You still see it, even though we don't talk about it so much nowadays. | ||
| Raheem, hang on, because you've got some breaking news over at National Impulse on YouTube, but Raheem wrote two of the more controversial books in recent times. | ||
| No Go Zone, which is brilliant, and that's his reporting on the ground. | ||
| Also, Enoch Powell about the Rivers of Blood, which is quite controversial, brilliant analysis of one of the giants of the 20th century. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break, uh back with raheem. We got mark mitchell who's now been banned at abc Ej and tony about videnomics all next in the war room The ccp It's getting late I have to see my Now tell me when the boy came. | ||
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It's seven o'clock and I wanna rock. | |
| Wanna get in a belly full of beer. | ||
| My old lady, she don't care. | ||
| My sister looks cute in her braces and boots. | ||
| A handful of grease in her hair, huh? | ||
| Oh, don't give a damn of your aggravation. | ||
| We'll have you with your discipline. | ||
| Oh, suddenly, those old mice are fighting. | ||
| Get a little action in. | ||
| Get a model of your own. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, that is France. | ||
| And that is Paris, one of the great cities in the world. | ||
| And remember, in the 79th anniversary and commemoration we've done all month of the Battle of Normandy, that is what, right there, is what young American and British and Canadian men gave their lives for. | ||
| Just remember that. That's what they, at Normandy, at D-Day, and all the way through this horrible battle that took 60 days with the British Army, the Canadians, and the Americans fought for that. | ||
| Blazoned in that. Always remember that. | ||
| Raheem, and I've got a lot more to get to, but I've got to make time for this. | ||
| The reason we played that song is not to be cute. | ||
| That was the actual music that Macron was dancing at, at this concert with the elites while the city burned. | ||
| And even some of the nicest areas of France. | ||
| And Paris, obviously, is one of the... | ||
| The most beautiful and greatest cities in the world, but they burned some of the nicest boutique streets there. | ||
| Raheem, your first book, No Go Zones, was so controversial. | ||
| Frank Gaffney actually quoted from your book, you remember this, on Fox. | ||
| It's got to be 10 years ago when the book came out. | ||
| Frank Gaffney was banned in perpetuity in Fox for actually going to your thesis that there were no go zones, which was quite evident. | ||
| From your book, your research, your writings at Breitbart and others, and I remember Fox gave them the hook. | ||
| They gave some other people the hook. | ||
| They didn't want to talk about it. It can't even be addressed. | ||
| It should not be addressed. But then you had even a more controversial book. | ||
| Tell us about that quote from the Aeneid, why it's so powerful and important from the beginning of our culture, and what Enoch Powell, one of the giants of the 20th century, who's just like Arthur Fletcher, now forgotten, what your book was about, and why that book exactly addressed what's happening in Paris this weekend. | ||
| Yeah, and by the way, I mean, you know, it's like trying to talk about George Soros on Fox News as well, as Newt Gingrich tried that time, you know, and they gave him the hook for that as well. | ||
| There are certain shibboleths that may not be shattered on Paul Ryan's Fox, and no-go zones... | ||
| And the integration, assimilation, immigration problem is certainly one of them, which is stunning because it's still the single biggest issue in the Western world with most people. | ||
| It may not be pertaining to integration. | ||
| Maybe it's pertaining to jobs. | ||
| Maybe it's not pertaining to jobs. | ||
| Maybe it's pertaining to infrastructure. | ||
| Maybe it's pertaining to budget. Whatever it is, immigration still ranks as a top issue, and so it should. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| It also was – forget Boris Johnson. | ||
| This was the essential about the sovereignty of Great Britain. | ||
| It was the centerpiece of the Brexit argument about really having your country back. | ||
| Boris Johnson was given this theoretical thing about the laws in Brussels, and that's all true. | ||
| But the heart of it, the beating heart of it, and the billboard you guys took out. | ||
| That really, I think, tipped the scales because I was there. | ||
| I was there. I saw the whole thing from the beginning, years before when I first met Raheem when he was a blogger. | ||
| And Nigel was going around like a tea party guy up in the Midlands. | ||
| I have it right here. I have it right here. | ||
| I have it right here. | ||
| Just to do some live... | ||
| You know, the escalators going up the White Cliffs of Dover. | ||
| Yes. No, it's so controversial, but this gets back to the southern border. | ||
| This gets back to the invasion of our country. | ||
| People don't want to have these conversations, and this is what Raynard Jackson brings up the point. | ||
| You have to have these conversations. | ||
| Talk to us. Give me a minute or two on Enoch Powell and why he was so important and why he's also a name that shall not be mentioned in Great Britain today. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Enoch Powell was a member of Parliament, was the youngest Brigadier General in the British Army, was the second youngest professor in Western Civilization, second only to, you know, what's his chops, Mr. | ||
| Nihilism. And, you know, he warned in a speech in the late 60s. | ||
| He said, like the Roman, I see the River Tiber foaming with much blood. | ||
| And the poorly educated, non-classically educated British, you know, quote-unquote elite in journalism at the time took him literally to mean that, you know, blood would be flowing through the streets of England on this stuff. | ||
| No, it was a... An analogy that he was making, he was using the Prophet Sybil's words from the Aeneid, where the discussion is about the blood, the sweat, and the tears that are shed on both sides to try to integrate new people into societies. | ||
| Most people want to have that conversation. | ||
| Most people are quite happy to have that conversation. | ||
| Most people are happy to say, okay, well, look, you know, maybe migration – by the way, at the moment, most people want a total migration moratorium. | ||
| But that's as a result of, you know, in the United Kingdom, when that poster was made, by the way, with the three escalators, it was because immigration was three times what the Tories had said. | ||
| It was the Conservative Party said it was going to be 100,000 people net migration per year. | ||
| And it was 300,000. | ||
| So we put three escalators on it, right? | ||
| Right. Now, Steve, it's 650,000 net migration. | ||
| You had a million new visas issued last year into the United Kingdom. | ||
| It's a completely untenable situation. | ||
| They're putting them in hotels now, city centers, everything. | ||
| This is after Brexit. | ||
| That's the stunning thing. The Tory party is just a liberal party. | ||
| Look, I want to come back and do this in more detail, maybe right after the holiday break, or the holidays, because I've got to spend time on this, and you've done so much great work. | ||
| Let's pivot. I've got Mark Mitchell on deck. | ||
| I want to pivot to the National Pulse, and I want to thank Denver and, of course, my own production team for putting that together at the last second. | ||
| Just fantastic. But the French story, people have got to stay on top of all weekend. | ||
| Rahim, a major new investigative report coming out of National Pulse today about Governor DeSantis, the state of Florida, and is it the Persian community, the Iranian community? | ||
| What's the special deal they got? | ||
| Yeah, look, we can't take all the credit for it. | ||
| The Washington Post actually started pulling at this thread, and we've just pulled further at it. | ||
| We also have further information about Governor DeSantis, one of Governor DeSantis' major donors, this Iranian chap called Morteza or Mori Hosseini. | ||
| Now, DeSantis likes to talk about COVID, so let's talk about COVID. | ||
| Because DeSantis gave $92 million of taxpayer money to help his donor, Morteza Hosseini, who is building land near an established interchange, building a housing complex near an established interchange, and suddenly the plans include, oh, roads that go right up to Morteza's property, and he benefits from all of this. | ||
| And then he starts giving DeSantis private jet flights, and then he gets put on the Florida University board, and then his wife gets put on another board by Governor DeSantis, and then his sister gets put on the approvals board for this interchange that the governor assigns $92 million for Morteza Hosseini, his major donor, to benefit from. | ||
| This, by the way, is Ron DeSantis' own little swamp that he's got going on down there. | ||
| And I've got to tell you, we've been looking at Morteza Hosseini for the last couple of days now. | ||
| I've got to tell you, there's a lot more coming out, and we're going to have it exclusively at The National Pulse. | ||
| It's extraordinary to me that he's been giving to the Iranian-American PAC for about the last decade. | ||
| And where does the Iranian-American PAC spend its political money? | ||
| Supporting Nancy Pelosi, supporting Jamie Raskin, and this is who Ron DeSantis is cozied up with. | ||
| So I think people can go over to thenationalpulse.com, check this story out, and check the follow-ups out because we're going to have plenty of them. | ||
| You've got to go to the National Pulse every day. | ||
| That's got to be part of your diet here or your intake for everything news and analysis. | ||
| You've got that special thing, too. | ||
| If you join, you get all the insights and commentary and framing from Rahim. | ||
| So it's a must-go. | ||
| I start the day every day there. | ||
| One last thing before I let you go, Rahim, and thanks for doing this, is DeSantis' whole campaign. | ||
| And I think he's been a very good governor of Florida. | ||
| I've said that. I think he should have waited until 2028. | ||
| But it's pretty amateurish. | ||
| I mean, let's take yesterday on affirmative action. | ||
| This was all done with three judges that Trump put on there. | ||
| And they come out with something actually hitting Trump on affirmative action. | ||
| I mean, it's so kind of weirdly amateurish, given all the money they raised. | ||
| And this is one of the reasons, besides his own personality, which I think is just tough to get people excited about. | ||
| And so once again, the donor class sees somebody that they hate Trump, they see a vehicle in DeSantis, and they push him way beyond where he's really ready to go right now. | ||
| But what's your overall assessment about the DeSantis campaign, objectively, about where it stands in the summer before the Iowa State Fair? | ||
| Well, look, I mean... | ||
| I say this every day, that there's turmoil in Tallahassee, and it's got to the point where it sounds ridiculous. | ||
| There can't be turmoil every day, but there is. | ||
| You know, every day, these people, Christina Pushaw and all these guys, they're arguing with people on the internet all day long. | ||
| They're trying to get them fact-checked like they're leftists, you know, like they're Alan Duke, right? | ||
| Remember Alan Duke from Lead Stories? | ||
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| And he's going around. | ||
| DeSantis is going around. Firstly, he goes to the Dominion lawyer's office in D.C. to raise money. | ||
| No readout from that meeting, by the way. | ||
| Okay, you notice that. There was nothing that came out after that. | ||
| Hey, we talked about this. We discussed that. | ||
| No, no, no. Very quiet, very secret. | ||
| He's going to Yale and charging $6,600 to eat some pudding with him or something. | ||
| This is a guy who's supposed to have, what, $400 million that he can call on from all different kind of, you know, from the PAC, from the campaign, from the supporters, you know, between the Koch network now that's throwing another $70 million in behind him. | ||
| And he's still going around rating money. | ||
| Why wouldn't you be on the ground doing the campaigning at that point? | ||
| You're How many points behind? | ||
| And you think that you can just deploy hundreds of millions of dollars last minute, that's going to change things? | ||
| This tells you what it is. | ||
| Read it for what it is, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Follow the money. Who's getting rich here? | ||
| The consultants, the vendors, the Axiom strategies, Jeff Rowe, so on and so forth. | ||
| The money, your money, DeSantis donors, is going into their pockets. | ||
| That's Bushworld, by the way. | ||
| Enjoy it. Raheem, once again, how do they get to national polls? | ||
| How do they get to all your content? | ||
| So I'll announce today that we are going to start doing, I am going to start doing, a weekly members-only podcast. | ||
| It's called The Campaign Trail, where I get into the detail on this stuff. | ||
| We talk about exactly how the polls are looking every week, where the movement is, where you need to be looking. | ||
| Scratch under the surface of the campaigns themselves. | ||
| Talk to a lot of the campaign staff. | ||
| staff will have special interviews. The podcast will be between 45 and 47 minutes long every Sunday on the NationalPulse.com. So people should join up today. The first month is free, it's on me. It's the NationalPulse.com forward slash war room is where you need to go. It's where all war room listeners, viewers need to go. The NationalPulse.com forward slash war room. And we'll give you the inside scoop on what's really going on in these campaigns and where the money's really going by the way. What time on Sunday do you anticipate | ||
| you're gonna post that on a weekly basis? Yeah, probably 7 a.m. on Sundays it'll be available from, you know, I'm gonna put the thing together on the Saturdays, get it out early on the Sundays. | ||
| People need to know what's going on, what's really going on under the hood of this thing. | ||
| And in a lot of cases, it's very ugly. | ||
| I want everybody to go there and check out this will be the definitive thing, particularly for MAGA and where we're heading to victory in 2024. | ||
| Rahim, it's amazing in the reimagined and rejuvenated National Pulse, you're working on Saturdays, particularly Saturday night. | ||
| And not just that, I want to give Rahim a hat tip here, coming on, talking about his former work, which is so important and so powerful. | ||
| But we got Rahim up early. | ||
| And got him away from his sauna and his deep tissue massage. | ||
| So I really appreciate, Raheem, you coming and joining us here in the 10 o'clock hour, brother. | ||
| I love it. Listen, I had to run home early from the sauna this morning to get on the show in time. | ||
| So, you know, I gave up that little five minutes of my day just for you, Steve. | ||
| It's the new Jack. You got the new Jack Posobiec look. | ||
| What's this whole thing with no collars? | ||
| Everybody's flexing. It's all a gun show now. | ||
| First Posobiec, then Raheem. | ||
| Raheem, the workouts are having an impact. | ||
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| Okay. Short break. | ||
| Mark Mitchell, E.J. Antony, Joe Kent, Boris Epstein. | ||
| We're live also for the Moms for Liberty. | ||
| A massive turnout in Philadelphia as we told you it would be. | ||
| Short break, back in a second. | ||
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| you Okay, breaking news. | ||
| Six to three decision. | ||
| The Biden unconstitutional, illegal forgiveness of student debt has been stopped by the Supreme Court. | ||
| So that's exploding across the battlefield. | ||
| We'll get more into that into the next hour. | ||
| Also, I want to make sure, homework assignment. | ||
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| So that house is like everything to you. | ||
| Particularly given the turbulent economic times we're going to go through. | ||
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| We're going to have EJ and Tony on here to talk about that. | ||
| But go to HometitleLock.com right now and check out for free what the status of your home title is. | ||
| You cannot let these cybercrimes... | ||
| Remember, cybercrime is number one in the world in every different vertical. | ||
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| If they can't sell your house, what they definitely can do quite easily is take a second mortgage out of your house from one of these hard money lenders. | ||
| Then you're screwed. You got $200,000 second on your home. | ||
| They get the cash. | ||
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| HomeTitleLock.com. It's simple. | ||
| It's easy. Check it out. | ||
| Particularly when you're going to have, you've got the Russians pounding in, you've got both state power on cyber. | ||
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| Both the CCP and the Russians just use these criminal elements. | ||
| They're looking to monetize anything they lay their hands on, including your home. | ||
| Go check it out today. | ||
| Okay, if we put up Paul Bedard, you know, Washington, I think it's Washington Whispers or Washington Secrets or Washington Examiner. | ||
| He is, Paul Bedard is one of the most dialed in guys in Washington, D.C., Huge breaking story yesterday. | ||
| At first, the headline was so over the top when my phone started to blow up, I thought it was a parody. | ||
| I thought Paul was pulling some joke for the weekend. | ||
| But I checked it out. | ||
| It's true. We're going to bring in Mark Mitchell. | ||
| The revered Rasmussen, which has always been kind of the closest daily tracking. | ||
| They've called so many shots on elections. | ||
| Plus they do polling on all these different topics constantly. | ||
| They're always in the field polling. | ||
| So they've got a real finger on the pulse of what the American people think. | ||
| They've been banned from ABC News because they go on because of Bannon and Fox. | ||
| That's the headline. | ||
| And it's because they come on War Room. | ||
| I don't really remember them being on Fox that much. | ||
| And so I kind of checked it out and I brought in Mark Mitchell. | ||
| Mark, why is ABC 538, when they've had this change in management, which is quite controversial, why is Rasmussen now banned from ABC and from being in their, I guess, their average of polls, sir? | ||
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I'll get into the backstory, but to me the top line is you wanted to check in on where we're at in 2023, and it would appear that That insane leftists are still leveraging their positions within big corporations to put their thumb on the scale. | |
| That's my take on it. Now, we haven't had a quarrel with 538. | ||
| We've been part of their aggregation for a really long time. | ||
| In fact, we frequently rank in some of their top pollsters. | ||
| But not long after they announced Nate Silver stepping down, we started getting these emails from basically, I guess, an underling at 538. | ||
| And you know, Rasmussen, we value transparency. | ||
| The questions were, polling, it's not rocket science. | ||
| We're not sending SpaceX missiles to the moon, right? | ||
| There's a couple of ways to skin a cat. | ||
| There's a lot of things that you can do that are within acceptable polling principles. | ||
| And quite frankly, these are things that I've probably already answered on long-form interviews. | ||
| Probably in that one interview I did with Rich Barris, I probably hit on most of these. | ||
| But I thought to myself, well, they have an opaque black box. | ||
| Why should I answer these questions for them? | ||
| I don't think they're asking these questions of anyone else. | ||
| And we just sat on it. | ||
| So we got two more emails from this guy over the next month in AF and didn't think anything of it. | ||
| And then yesterday, we got this incredible ultimatum, a very hostily worded letter from a man named G, Elliot Morris. | ||
| And I guess he's the new head of data at ABC Polling. | ||
| And believe it or not, it wasn't really the questions about our methodology that got them up in arms. | ||
| It was all this other stuff in the letter about the places that we distribute our information. | ||
| And so, all of a sudden, I guess we were right to be suspicious. | ||
| It wasn't about methodology. | ||
| It was about distribution, which to me has nothing to do with polling. | ||
| Now, we were accused of being a right-wing pollster. | ||
| People have probably heard that. | ||
| We're independent. | ||
| We don't take money from parties. | ||
| We're bipartisan. In fact, I don't even know how I would possibly even describe myself on a political spectrum in today's day and age. | ||
| But, you know, these accusations came from, in 2016, we were probably the only pollster out there that even gave Donald Trump a chance. | ||
| And we ultimately predicted a Clinton, a narrow Clinton popular vote win, and we were right. | ||
| And we were one of the most accurate pollsters in the 2016 cycle, but that's where that name came from. | ||
| And now, what we're doing is we're polling on these third-rail topics that no other pollster will touch. | ||
| And if you look at this guy's Twitter feed, you'll see very prominently What he has a problem with, and it isn't our methodology. | ||
| It's things like us polling on the song, 81 million votes my ass, which apparently 49% of the US electorate actually agrees with, that there's no way that Joe Biden got 81 million votes in 2020. | ||
| So he's in there now, and I don't see any justification from their perspective if you were trying to run an accurate polling aggregator. | ||
| You would want some polls that lean left, some polls that lean right. | ||
| But what they're going to do is try and actively use their position to scrub us from the history, which is fine. | ||
| Being on 538 doesn't really help us in any way. | ||
| No, no, no. Yeah. | ||
| Nate Silver is kind of a giant in this industry. | ||
| He was very comfortable having you guys on, although I'm sure he doesn't agree with your politics. | ||
| This guy's a grundoon. I know from certain senior members at ABC News and others that they had no idea. | ||
| They're like, what did this guy do? | ||
| Oh, man. Are pretty damn good. | ||
| They're like, well, who's this guy? | ||
| No, he kind of came in there. | ||
| But you're right. He's a political operative. | ||
| I'm shocked ABC hired this guy. | ||
| He's a political operative that hides himself as a pollster. | ||
| And you can tell everything's going to come out of there is going to be biased. | ||
| I want to tell you what. | ||
| Can you hang on for a second? | ||
| I want to hold you through the break because I want to continue this because it talks about one of the biggest issues we've got, which is this issue of misinformation. | ||
| The Rasmussen guys go into the field all the time. | ||
| They're constantly in the field on topics. | ||
| That are both signal and then topics that are out in the ether of the day. | ||
| And it's one of the reasons that they're so powerful. | ||
| It's one of the reasons their tracking poll is looked at by professionals all the time. | ||
| And here you have a blatant example. | ||
| And here's the punchline. | ||
| It's not his methodology. | ||
| They know the Rasmussen guys are as good as you get. | ||
| It's because we have them on here to go through the polls, and this audience is so powerful. | ||
| That's what they don't want. | ||
| They don't want this audience to have information, which is the whole basics of the show, to immerse you in information. | ||
| And then you figure it out. | ||
| That's what they hate. And that's why they're going to ban Rasmussen. | ||
| Short commercial break. Packed second hour. |
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