June 12, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Does it surprise you that Nikki Haley or Kim Scott or others haven't been vocal about this? | ||
| Yes! You're down 40 points in the polls! | ||
| I don't know why they're doing it! | ||
| Why are you surprised by it? | ||
| I guess is my question. Well, they're running against him. | ||
| When you're running in a race, you're trying to beat the guy ahead of you. | ||
| You're trying to knock him down, you know, and given all the things in the rap sheet there that is, you know, a mile long, you think that they'd be more aggressive. | ||
| I get it. They're trying to focus on the problems around DOJ, and there are real problems there. | ||
| That place needs an overhaul. | ||
| No question. We could do hours on that. | ||
| But let's focus at the... | ||
| The facts at hand, you're running against a guy with 37 indictments against him. | ||
| You almost look like you're defending him at this point. | ||
| That does not look like a serious candidate that's willing to take him on over the next six months to knock his poll numbers down and shoot you to the top. | ||
| Either you want to run for president and beat the guy, or you don't. | ||
| Amen. And he happens to be a threat to our national security. | ||
| A fascist. | ||
| A cruel person, to say the least. | ||
| I mean, it started and ended with his presidency every step of the way. | ||
| I could do a four-hour show and not go through everything that he has done that has damaged, either pushed against our democratic values or damaged our democracy straight up. | ||
| And these Republican candidates, they have an opportunity here to do the right thing and say the right thing And also possibly win their primary against Donald Trump if they get rid of him. | ||
| And honestly, our country does not need any more of Donald Trump than it already has. | ||
| Take a look at this indictment. | ||
| Take a look at his presidency. | ||
| And take a look at the fealty that these Republicans have to their fascist leader. | ||
| They're so scared of him. | ||
| They are so incapable of saying that he's done anything wrong. | ||
| And honestly, right now at this point, can you really say that with a straight-faced Lindsey Graham? | ||
| Can you say that with a straight-faced any of these candidates, Ron DeSantis, DeSantis, whatever your name is? | ||
| Just be honest for once. | ||
| Do the right thing for the country. | ||
| Don't be so desensitized that you don't know the difference between right and wrong. | ||
| Joining us now, we have special correspondent of Vanity Fair and the host of Fast Politics podcast, Molly John Fast, and staff writer for The Atlantic, David Frum. | ||
| And David, in your latest piece for The Atlantic, you write in part, quote, the conservative world in the age of Trump has coiled itself into a labyrinth of lies. | ||
| Lies about Trump's victimhood, lies about Trump's popularity, lies about Trump's election outcomes, lies about Trump's mental acuity and physical strength. | ||
| The architects of the labranth presumed that they could always, if necessary, find an exit. | ||
| And that their keys could someday turn the exit's locks. | ||
| Instead, they have found themselves as lost and trapped in labriant as the deceived people they lured into it. | ||
| As a result, they have failed to take each opportunity to escape. | ||
| The first impeachment, the November 2020 defeat, the January 6 crimes, the second impeachment, the end of the administration, the 2022 wipeout of swing state election-denying candidates, the first indictment, And now this second indictment on how about like the sexual abuse liability? | ||
| The big post-Trump choice for conservatives is whether they rejoin the mainstream of American life or wander ever further away from it toward outright rejection of law and democracy. | ||
| And you know what? We all fail if you fail, Republicans. | ||
| And you are failing America in a big way. | ||
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Most Republicans? Yeah. | |
| Rallying around him. Not all, but most. | ||
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Including those who want to beat him for the nomination next year. | |
| This is their chance. | ||
| This is their chance to finally get away from this unbelievably undemocratic person. | ||
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Why would they? They didn't have to January the 6th. | |
| I can't take any more. | ||
| I can't take any more. | ||
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I try. We curate this so you don't have to. | |
| Monday, 12 June, Year of Our Lord, 2023. | ||
| It's morning Mika. How would you like to wake up every morning with that across the coffee table from across the breakfast table? | ||
| How would you like that? Just think. | ||
| Chalk that up for purgatory. | ||
| Maybe time in hell. | ||
| Obviously a lot going on. | ||
| We're going to get to all of it. | ||
| Unabomber dies over the weekend. | ||
| They're sitting committed suicide. | ||
| We'll get to that. Joe Allen's here. | ||
| CNN finally admitted Jack Posobiec on it all weekend on this Ukraine on the on the second on the spring offensive the much heralded long-awaited spring early summer offensive of course the economist leads its weekend coverage with these cross fingers of they hope it works I think 12 or 15 armored armored vehicles destroyed in the quote-unquote combined arms operation in Ukraine We're going to have Garrett Ziegler and the team on here for Marco Polo to talk about the Biden crime family with Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Carrie Lake's going to join us. We're packed for the next two hours and then for two hours tonight. | ||
| But I wanted to really get... | ||
| The perspective of somebody that I think incredibly highly of, and I know that the nation does, the Republican Party Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich. | ||
| Speaker Gingrich, I could have gone on for another five minutes with the Morning Joe meltdown and clips we've done over the weekend of Mika about we're fascist, you know, just on and on and on about all the times of lawfare they've tried to destroy him. | ||
| Can you, because you're unique in that you're both a man of action and you're one of our towering public intellectuals. | ||
| You've got this new book out about the beginning of this revolution back in the 90s, actually long before that as you worked on the March the Majority, which everybody ought to get as a read. | ||
| Tell me about, where are we in American history right now, sir? | ||
| Well, I think we're at a unique moment. | ||
| Domestically, We are probably the most challenged since Buchanan was president and the country was drifting towards a civil war. | ||
| Internationally, I think the combination of China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, secondarily Venezuela and Cuba, we may be the greatest in danger literally since Washington crossed Delaware on Christmas Eve. | ||
| I mean, you have all these foreign problems. | ||
| You have a faction of Americans who hate their own country. | ||
| You have a government at every level, state, federal, local, which is increasingly attacking the American people. | ||
| So you really do have the government against the American people. | ||
| It's astonishing, a reversal of the Revolutionary War, where it was the people against the government. | ||
| And I think this most recent example with Trump is, it couldn't be clearer. | ||
| No matter how many bad things they find about the Biden family, nothing happens. | ||
| No matter how many bad things they find about Hillary Clinton, nothing happens. | ||
| No matter how often Adam Schiff lies, as she did consistently as chairman of the Intelligence Committee, nothing happens. | ||
| But if you're on the other team, whether you're a parent, in California or Washington state being threatened with jail because you don't do what they want to about encouraging your child to be transgender or whether you are Donald Trump who has been really all the way through his career from 2016 on the minute it became clear he's going to be the nominee they attacked him and they've been attacking him ever since and the fact that he's standing after seven years It's self astonishing. | ||
| I don't know any other Republican candidate who could have taken this kind of beating and still be coming on. | ||
| And that tells you how much he's willing to defend the American people. | ||
| I want to go back to what you just said. | ||
| With Buchanan, you know, it appeared, if you go back to read history, we were exorbitantly drawn into a civil war, but there are many times that individuals or groups could have stood up and stopped that. | ||
| On Christmas Day, you know, before the Battle of Trent, before they crossed, maybe the darkest where we had our backs to the wall. | ||
| You're saying on both internationally or geopolitically, We got our backs to the wall like Washington. | ||
| And you're saying that there's some power inexorably pulling us into a conflict between ourselves, unless good and smart people step into the breach here. | ||
| Walk me through both of that, because nowhere in American history we've ever had both, both the domestic divide at the same time with the darkness of particularly the CCP, the mullahs in Persia, The KGB in Moscow, Turkey, now the House Assad, all of it trying to consolidate the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| So walk me through this combination. | ||
| Can America punch its way out of this? | ||
| Well, I mean, like Ronald Reagan, I'm an optimist. | ||
| So my first answer is yes. | ||
| This is a remarkable country with extraordinary people who are being crippled by their very own government and crippled by an anti-American faction, largely in the universities and to some extent in the news media and in the corporate CEOs and in the bureaucracy. | ||
| But we have a great capacity to fight our way back. | ||
| And the truth does have a tendency to come out. | ||
| You're seeing this happen now with the FBI. I mean, I thought that the Durham report was devastating, followed up on the report of the Inspector General. | ||
| which was devastating. | ||
| The fact is we need a bill to break up the Federal Bureau of Investigation and replace it with much more reasonable law enforcement systems and eliminate the entire senior leadership. | ||
| I mean, it's clearly a corrupted institution, deeply politicized on the left, and the evidence we have is just overwhelming. | ||
| So I think what you'll see and what you have seen a little bit of in the House, for example, with the investigations, And with the things the House Republicans are doing, is you're seeing the beginning of a counteroffensive. | ||
| The entire Trump candidacy is a counteroffensive against the left, and that's why they hate him. | ||
| That's why they're afraid of him. He entered office as the first really non-establishment president in modern times. | ||
| Reagan was a solid conservative, the most conservative, I think, in modern times before Trump. | ||
| But Reagan was essentially Accepting of the system. | ||
| His focus was defeating the Soviet Union, getting the economy growing, and renewing a belief in American civic culture. | ||
| He didn't think his mission was to take apart the bureaucracy and the radicalism that surrounds us. | ||
| Trump came into office, I think, as somebody determined to break up an increasingly corrupt old order. | ||
| And that's why they hate him, and that's why they've been so Astonishingly aggressive in going after him. | ||
| The Gingrich Revolution was the bridge between Reagan and really the start of this populist nationalist movement. | ||
| What did you see at the late stage Reagan that led you in the early years against long odds? | ||
| I remember I tell people I saw you at the California Club Back in I think 89 or 90 when I was just sent out there by Goldman Sachs to run investment banking and you gave a talk about you basically laid out the new Gingrich revolution and there were not a lot of establishment California wealthy folks that were buying into it said who is this guy what did you see we got a minute here we want to hold you to the break what did you see that led to the to the Gingrich revolution the first the first volley in this well I saw what Reagan saw I saw the American people I knew that every single item, | ||
| balancing the budget, reforming welfare, cutting taxes, reforming the House, every single item has 60 or 70 percent support. | ||
| And like Reagan and before him, like Lincoln, I believed, as Lincoln once said, that with popular sentiment, anything is possible. | ||
| Without popular sentiment, nothing is possible. | ||
| And so we designed the contract with America so it spoke to the American people about what the American people believed. | ||
| And that's exactly what Trump did in his theme of Make America Great Again. | ||
| There were millions of Americans. | ||
| In 2016, looking for an optimistic candidate who thought the future could be better. | ||
| Not somebody who's going to manage the decay or somebody who's going to manage the surrender to the left, but somebody who thought, if we got together, we could actually make a better American future. | ||
| And that's, I think, what he's going to bring to the campaign this year, despite every effort of the left to destroy him. | ||
| By the way, the book is March to the Majority. | ||
| It's the history of this. | ||
| It's absolutely must-reading if you want to understand where we are today. | ||
| Speaker Gingrich, please hold on for a second. | ||
| Take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to turn with the former Speaker of the House, also the husband of the ambassador to the Vatican, Calista, and a guy that's got a birthday coming up in a week. | ||
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We talk all about that next in the War Room. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| you you Most Republicans rallying around him. | ||
| Not all, but most, including those who want to beat him for the nomination next year. | ||
| This is their chance. | ||
| This is their chance to finally get away from this unbelievably undemocratic person. | ||
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Why would they? They didn't after January the 6th. | |
| He literally inspired a riot, and they didn't move away from him. | ||
| The good news, folks, is that they're triggered over at Morning Mika. | ||
| In Morning Mika today, they are pearl-clutching. | ||
| That means, it tells you, that's a tell. | ||
| They don't have a case here, so what are they doing? | ||
| They're ripping on the judge. | ||
| They're sitting there, we're fascists, we're neo-Confederates, just on and on and on. | ||
| It's going to stay there. That's good. | ||
| It's a good thing. Speaker Gingrich, you talked about the FBI, breaking of the FBI, which coming from a guy like you, that's pretty radical. | ||
| When you look at the founders of our nation, they so admired the Republic of Rome and modeled many things after the Republic, including the Senate and things like that, institutions. | ||
| But when it transitioned to empire after the late Republic, when it transitioned to empire, you had this huge administrative state And particularly the deep state part, the Praetorian Guard, that eventually ended up selecting its own leaders. | ||
| Do you think that's the stage we're in today? | ||
| Do you consider the administrative state's rogue element, the deep state, DOJ and FBI, when you really look at it within the cold light of dawn, that in fact it is a Praetorian Guard to certain elements like the Clintons and like the Obamas and like the Bidens, | ||
| sir? Well, I think there's a network that includes some of the intelligence community, includes some of the senior military, certainly includes the Department of Justice and the FBI. And that network believes that it has the right to break the law on behalf of its values and on behalf of its interest groups. | ||
| And there's no question that's true. | ||
| And all you have to do is read the Durham report or the earlier report of the Inspector General. | ||
| Who just tore apart the FBI. You have to say to yourself, there's nothing more dangerous than when the law enforcers become the law breakers. | ||
| And that's the world we're in right now. | ||
| That's the world of Chris Wray. | ||
| That's the world of the FBI. That's why I don't think it's radical. | ||
| If you have a cancer, cutting it out is not radical. | ||
| Cutting it out is common sense. | ||
| We currently have an FBI that has the arrogance To ask for a $3.5 billion headquarters building that would be larger than the Pentagon. | ||
| I can't imagine anything dumber for people who love freedom than to build a police system so big that it has a headquarters larger than the Pentagon. | ||
| It's exactly the wrong direction. | ||
| And that's why I think we need to have hearings and then fundamental reforms. | ||
| I just did a podcast at Newt's World with a 33-year FBI veteran who talks about how corrupted the FBI had become, who's written a book about what happened to the FBI and how, after 2001, it became a corrupted institution. | ||
| So I think this is something we've got to look at very carefully. | ||
| It is extraordinarily dangerous. | ||
| And what they did in, for example, breaking the lawyers' confidentiality is an astonishing threat. | ||
| If you were to give guidance to the leadership in the House right now, if you were there between the purse strings and the investigative apparatus, what would Newt Gingrich be doing this morning? | ||
| I think a lot of what they are starting to do. | ||
| I would be having pretty aggressive investigations, which certainly Chairman Comer has been doing with the House Accountability Committee. | ||
| I would be having A serious look at, for example, defunding the FBI building, which Speaker McCarthy has publicly said he thinks should be defunded. | ||
| I would look at a series of just not giving them money. | ||
| The power of the purse resides first with the House of Representatives deliberately. | ||
| As you point out, the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution to avoid dictatorship. | ||
| They deliberately distributed power and balanced it, and one of the great powers of the House is to pass money bills. | ||
| And if they don't pass them on October 1st, that part of the federal government has no money. | ||
| So the appropriation process the next 100 days is going to be big. | ||
| What advice, I want to bifurcate this for a second, what advice would you give President Trump Given our current situation and your historical perspective, what advice would you give the Trump movement? | ||
| Let's start with President Trump. | ||
| What would be your advice strategically for President Trump? | ||
| To embed his case in all the cases around the country and the fact that you now have a war by the government against the American people. | ||
| Trump is just one of many, many victims. | ||
| I think the more he focuses only on his own victimhood, the narrower and the weaker the case, but the more that he focuses on the totality of the government assault against the American people, the stronger his case becomes. | ||
| What is your advice then to the, by the way, very wise, what is your advice to his followers, the MAGA movement? | ||
| That this is a struggle for the very life of freedom. | ||
| That you should take it as seriously as George Orwell warned us about when he published 1984. | ||
| And you should recognize that everything we know of as freedom is under threat right now. | ||
| And we have to win, much like Lincoln did in the 1860s. | ||
| We have to win for freedom to survive. | ||
| I want to go, if we can put the March to Majority cover-up. | ||
| Why this book at this time, and why should this audience get this book in the summer of 2023? | ||
| We're at this hinge of history right now. | ||
| Tell me about the book. | ||
| Why is it important at this moment? | ||
| I wrote this book specifically because I thought it was so relevant to today and to 2024 and 2025. | ||
| I recount the 16 years we spent creating the majority for the first time in 40 years. | ||
| Then I go through the four years we negotiated with Clinton and got huge reform. | ||
| We reformed welfare. | ||
| People went to work by the millions. | ||
| Children rose out of poverty. | ||
| It was the biggest anti-poverty program for children in American history. | ||
| We cut taxes and had enormous economic growth. | ||
| We also cut regulations and we balanced the federal budget for four consecutive years to the only time in your lifetime. | ||
| So the point of March to the Majority is this is how you do it. | ||
| It's a book about principles. | ||
| Think of it as a playbook. | ||
| This is how you grow a majority. | ||
| This is how you get that majority to coerce the city of Washington. | ||
| And this is how you get genuinely conservative reforms. | ||
| And I think we're in a moment in time where, frankly, when you realize how long ago that was, I think a new generation Needs to sort of relearn the lessons. | ||
| It took us 16 years, so we don't want to wait 16 years, so I'm sharing with people exactly what we did, how we did it, and how they can apply it to today. | ||
| By the way, nobody gives or not enough credit to Speaker Gingrich in the House. | ||
| Four years of surpluses in a row. | ||
| Budget surpluses. Budget surpluses. | ||
| And that was him, not Bill Clinton. | ||
| I want to go, though, quickly to the 16 years. | ||
| Because a lot of people oftentimes go, man, we lose these. | ||
| Talk to me about how do you keep the troops motivated when it looks like it's an overcast day and you can't see the sunlit uplands? | ||
| Well, frankly, I mean, I think the left kept us motivated. | ||
| The same thing is happening with Trump. | ||
| You know, you get up in the morning and you say to yourself, am I comfortable with where the country's going? | ||
| And if the answer is no, then you have to get involved. | ||
| It's not complicated. And if you're willing to sit by it idly, then the bad guys are going to take over. | ||
| And I went out now. | ||
| We developed a term, cheerful persistence, because frankly, it was pretty tough. | ||
| I mean, When Joe Gaylord, who was my partner doing this, when we went back through and outlined the book, we realized how tired we were. | ||
| We tried in 80, 82, 84, 86, 88, 90, and 92. | ||
| And we weren't rope-a-doping. | ||
| We were trying everything we could think of. | ||
| We just weren't breaking through. | ||
| Finally, we'd learned enough. | ||
| We'd grown a big enough party. | ||
| We had some 55,000 people getting a GOPAC training tape every month. | ||
| And so we finally were capable of winning a big election. | ||
| And then the trick was, could we govern so well that we'd get reelected? | ||
| Remember, we're the first majority in 40 years, but we're the first reelected majority since 1928. | ||
| And that's why I think March the Majority is an important book. | ||
| It's not only how do you get power, but how do you use that power to get the kind of reforms That leads the American people to continue to loan you power. | ||
| And remember, when we won in 94, while we hadn't won in 40 years, we kept power for 12 years. | ||
| So it really was a fundamental shift in the power structure of Washington. | ||
| And I think if you watch the House investigating committees, it's pretty clear that it's a big deal that the Republicans won control of the House in 2022 and that that's going to change history. | ||
| Because they're going to unearth things and bring things to light that would have been totally covered up if the Democrats had stayed in charge. | ||
| We're going to have that. | ||
| Finally, we've got Mayor, we've got Garrett Ziegler, others to talk about exactly what the speaker just said. | ||
| Last thing, when you first got to D.C., didn't the leaders kind of say, hey, we're the minority, this is how you get along? | ||
| There was no concept. They didn't have the intellectual construct of actually becoming the majority. | ||
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Weren't you told just to keep your place? | |
| Look, they'd been beaten for 24 years by the time I got there. | ||
| They'd been through Watergate. | ||
| They'd seen about a third of their friends wiped out in the elections. | ||
| They saw the Ford-Reagan very bitter primary fight. | ||
| And they were just exhausted. | ||
| I mean, they went to work every morning just to survive. | ||
| They would kind of slink on the floor. | ||
| The Democrats would strut onto the floor looking for a Republican to beat up. | ||
| And the Republicans would try to hide so they didn't get beaten up. | ||
| And we were a new generation. | ||
| We said, you know, you want a piece of this? | ||
| Well, come at us. | ||
| And we carry the fight to the Democrats every day from the time I was elected. | ||
| The Fight Club, Fights That Matter, March to the Majority. | ||
| Speaker, how do they get to the podcast? | ||
| How do they get to your website? They go to gingrich360.com. | ||
| We'll get everything we're doing at gingrich360.com. | ||
| We do three podcasts a week for free, three newsletters a week for free. | ||
| And we have our brand new book, March to the Majority. | ||
| Let's get March to the Majority. | ||
| I want to get Grace and Captain Bannon to push it out right now. | ||
| Speaker Gingrich, thank you for taking time today on this Monday to kick off the week. | ||
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Great to be with you. Thank you, brother. | |
| Okay, March to the Majority. | ||
| The history of the beginning of this revolution. | ||
| Garrett Ziegler, Rudy Giuliani, Marco Polo next in the war room. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more. | |
| Let's take down the CCP. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we want to thank the speaker for teeing this all up. | ||
| I've got three hitters in a row. | ||
| Rudy, America's mayor. | ||
| I've got Garrett Ziegler, Marco Polo with the feral dogs of the Biden crime family, the website. | ||
| And I've got Posobiec and Jack Posobiec. | ||
| On his way to his Pulitzer Prize because Posobiec called it all weekend when he comes up, put the CNN headline, you know, economists, everybody worried, all the globalists worried about the Ukraine quote-unquote spring offensive. | ||
| Jack Posobiec told you exactly what was happening all weekend. | ||
| Of course, CNN admits today 16, I think 17 armored vehicles, their armored column destroyed. | ||
| We'll get into all that because it's all inextricably linked. | ||
| The Biden crime family, Ukraine, the billions of dollars are shipping over there, Zelensky. | ||
| It's all of a piece, as we say, and we're going to break it down all for you. | ||
| We're going to start with America's mayor. | ||
| Mayor Giuliani, I just want to make sure you and Bob Costello I had this information. | ||
| What you're hearing about now, we have Nancy Mace coming in and Stefanik and these people saying, hey, I'm looking at 1023s. | ||
| I'm looking at SARS reports over the Treasury. | ||
| They won't let me have any of this. | ||
| These were the things that you guys had or information related to that. | ||
| That you were talking to U.S. Attorneys back, and I think in January 2020, you're presenting this information, and I thought it was either North Carolina or Pittsburgh to a U.S. Attorney making case. | ||
| Walk us through that in the details of that, sir. | ||
| Well, there's a whole background to it, and we knew about it even well before that, but the ultimate thing is we are told through the Deputy Attorney General that Bill Barr wants us to present this evidence to the U.S. Attorney in Pittsburgh. | ||
| Because he wants to spread it out to different U.S. attorneys to evaluate, you know, how credible it is and whatever. | ||
| So we set up a meeting with the U.S. attorney and the FBI in Pittsburgh. | ||
| And they were very well represented. | ||
| They had about ten people there, about five, the U.S. attorney, his people, some people from justice, and also people from the FBI. Certainly from the local office, I can't tell you the Washington office. | ||
| Ten of them, though. Assistant U.S. Attorneys, the U.S. Attorney, and the head agent. | ||
| We were scheduled for an hour, an hour and a half. | ||
| We were there for five hours. | ||
| It was not even an outline. | ||
| It was a 100-page outline, so it was a report, really. | ||
| We went over each one in great detail. | ||
| The one hour and a half meeting ended up to be five hours. | ||
| They were intensely interested. | ||
| I mean, our other experience with justice up until then, not to bore you with it, we would just get blown away. | ||
| They had no interest in investigating Biden. | ||
| But this group was enormously excited. | ||
| I don't want to pretend it was just this, but there was one very extraordinary piece of evidence. | ||
| We had a woman in Ukraine who was the chief accountant for Burisma. | ||
| The wife of the former partner of Mykola Zlosevsky, who owned Burisma and is the major crook who is paying off the Bidens. | ||
| And she wanted to turn. | ||
| She wanted to testify. | ||
| But to testify, she wanted to be in the witness protection program. | ||
| And she had four colleagues of hers who were willing to testify and support her. | ||
| She claimed that over an eight-year period, she supervised All of the offshore illegal bank accounts. | ||
| All the money laundering went through her. | ||
| Now, we weren't sure she was telling the truth, but we did have one transaction that I had gotten very early of a complete money laundering transaction for $14 million, some of which went through to Joe Biden with an indication that Joe got $900,000 of it and his family got a total of about $3 million of it. | ||
| So we had one piece that proved what she was saying. | ||
| We didn't have the rest. | ||
| They were very excited about getting her. | ||
| And we emphasized the fact that she was in jeopardy. | ||
| And this was shortly after they attempted to kill Shokin, which is another thing they haven't really brought out. | ||
| There was an attempt to kill Shokin, who was the prosecutor, after he was dismissed. | ||
| They poisoned him. | ||
| Typical Ukrainian-Russian assassination attempt is a poisoning. | ||
| We had to get him to a hospital in Austria to keep him alive. | ||
| And they were threatening her. | ||
| They were enormously excited about it, about that, and all the other evidence. | ||
| They called us for about two weeks, particularly Bob, for other evidence, for other support. | ||
| They really wanted us to give them our ultimate source, who is a very credible source, with a long history of working with our government. | ||
| Always credibly. We finally decided to give them the source and did. | ||
| They interviewed them. | ||
| And then all of a sudden they went dark. | ||
| We couldn't get them back. | ||
| I mean, they were more enthusiastic than we were. | ||
| To start with, I would call them normal, decent, the usual assisting US attorneys and agents I've been used to dealing with for 40 years. | ||
| When I told them we had a witness like this, one of them said, holy, you know what? | ||
| Man, that would blow the damn case open. | ||
| That's exactly what we want. | ||
| In other words, she's on the inside. | ||
| I said, not only is she on the inside, she's the wife of the former owner who thinks Sloshesky killed her husband. | ||
| He said, we probably did. | ||
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| So, Rudy, but here's the thing. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand the timeline, and I want to make sure I understand it. | ||
| This takes place in January of 2020, correct? | ||
| These meetings with the U.S. Attorney in Pittsburgh? | ||
| Before the election had started. | ||
| Biden hadn't even announced it. | ||
| Right, the primary. Hang on. | ||
| No, no. I think Biden had announced because the primaries are starting. | ||
| 2020 was around the time getting close to the Iowa and New Hampshire. | ||
| But hang on for a second. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. He had already announced. | ||
| But hang on for a second. Hang on for a second. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong, brother, because later in the year, you and Bob Costello get approached on the laptop from hell. | ||
| The laptop from hell was sitting at the FBI and main justice In November, December of 2019. | ||
| Now hold it. So hang on. | ||
| This is, I'm saying, when Bill Barr is out there and now dumping on Donald Trump, that's a misdirection play. | ||
| Bill Barr is a traitor. Let me just cut to the chase. | ||
| He's a traitor. And so is Chris Wray. | ||
| They're traitors. | ||
| They had the information. | ||
| I got Garrett Ziegler coming up next. | ||
| They had the information from, and that's the public service of Garrett Ziegler. | ||
| They had all the information from the laptop Was at the FBI and main justice in no later than December of 2019, 60 days before this meeting takes place. | ||
| Okay, then in this meeting, Rudy, an hour meeting stays five hours, and they give a hundred-page report From Bob Costello and Rudy Giuliani naming names, giving information, et cetera, of which they're intensely interested for the next two or three weeks with follow-on calls, et cetera. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, when they realize what they actually got, the Praetorian Guard hermetically seals this. | ||
| Rudy, would you say that? | ||
| It goes into a dry hole called Delaware. | ||
| And what was surprising to us was It must have happened when it got to Barr because the US attorney there seemed 100%. | ||
| I mean, he's like guys I dealt with all my life. | ||
| I mean, I ran the US attorneys for three years for Reagan. | ||
| I know them like the back of my head. | ||
| He was like a regular US attorney, the guys I'm used to dealing with who put criminals in jail. | ||
| And he realized the quality of our evidence. | ||
| I mean, before we even get to the hard drive, Steve, We had a provable RICO case. | ||
| I'm well known for being the architect of RICO, right? | ||
| So they said to me, can you outline a RICO case for us? | ||
| And I got up to the board, and I outlined a RICO case from the top of my head. | ||
| And they said, wow, yeah, that's a hell of a case. | ||
| And then I said, these are the things we would have to get. | ||
| I mean, these were actual... | ||
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| Honest prosecutors. On the information that you had and could be developed, is there any doubt in your mind you could have gone before a grand jury and brought a slew of indictments against the Biden family, sir? | ||
| No, no. No doubt about it at all. | ||
| Within a short period of time, when they were doing nothing, I did a podcast outlining a RICO case, how to prosecute it. | ||
| I mean, no, I could have done that case. | ||
| I could have done that case, you know, a month later after putting it in the grand jury. | ||
| I've done a lot of RICO cases, Steve. | ||
| This is not an exaggeration. | ||
| This would have been one of the easier ones to do in terms of the amount of evidence that you had before you got the hard drive. | ||
| Now, here's what I'm really angry about. | ||
| They made fools out of us, all of us sitting there. | ||
| So Barr's sitting back there, letting us go through this exercise. | ||
| They already have the evidence. | ||
| I'm like a big jackass. | ||
| Yes, that's my point. I'm telling them about something. | ||
| I'm going crazy. | ||
| Your RICO case has been pretty good. | ||
| You brought down the five families, the five mafia families that were in New York, organized crime, and you brought down Milken and the mafia that ran Wall Street. | ||
| Two pretty good notches on your gun belt. | ||
| And the teamsters did. | ||
| And Drexel Burnham, right? | ||
| I just want to make sure. | ||
| Right now, if you were advising the House and Comer and this crowd, Ray and Bill Barr should be brought before a national TV. And we should go back to the Watergate saying, from December 19 to January 2020, what did you know and when did you know it? | ||
| Absolutely. What did you know and when did you know it? | ||
| What did you know and when did you know it? | ||
| And then follow the money. | ||
| We just go back to Watergate. | ||
| The Democrats all love Watergate. | ||
| They're all running around. You see Nixon's lawyer up there. | ||
| You see all these guys all day long. | ||
| We say, hey, let's give them a little Watergate. | ||
| What did you know and when did you know? | ||
| December of 2019 through January 2020, for 60 days, Chris Wray and Bill Barr had all the information about the Biden crime family. | ||
| I got Garrett Ziegler coming up next. | ||
| All the information. From the laptop from hell to what Rudy and Costello gave them. | ||
| They had the information, they asked follow-on questions, they got it all, and then they buried it. | ||
| They buried it because the Praetorian Guard selected, remember, Joe Biden finished fourth in Iowa and fifth in New Hampshire. | ||
| He was dead man walking. | ||
| The Praetorian Guard in February of 2020 selected Joe Biden, selected Joe Biden. | ||
| They hid information that's treasonous, right? | ||
| Not just disqualifying but running, but treasonous. | ||
| They hid information, they buried it, and they selected him. | ||
| This is end of Republic, beginning of Empire stuff. | ||
| This is the Praetorian Guard, and Chris Wray and Bill Barr are as guilty as crimes as the Biden family. | ||
| Because Chris Ray and Bill Barr had the information, and we can prove they had the information. | ||
| From the laptop from hell and Rudy Giuliani's 100-page report, they had all the information. | ||
| You don't need another thing. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, Costello, Costello being his old wingman as a U.S. attorney, they could have gone to a grand jury with what they had, and you could have gotten indictments against the Biden crime family in forever. | ||
| When the Praetorian Guard selected him in February 2020, Rudy and Bob Costello could have gone to a grand jury and brought indictments, criminal indictments. | ||
| Forget this Trump stuff. | ||
| That's all nonsense. We're going to get to the heart of the matter. | ||
| And Bill Barr, you can sit up there and say it's a great case. | ||
| We're going to shove this up your ass, okay? | ||
| We're going to shove it up your ass. | ||
| You are freaking guilty of treason. | ||
| You're guilty of treason and Ray's guilty of treason. | ||
| You had this information and we can prove you had it. | ||
| Rudy, how do people get to your podcast, brother? | ||
| How do they get to all your information, sir? | ||
| RudyGiulianiCS.com is the best way to do it. | ||
| And if they want to go to my podcast, you're going to see what I said. | ||
| Because when they wouldn't listen to me, I made it public. | ||
| And came on your show and made it public. | ||
| And also, remember, Barr did something very, very significant just recently. | ||
| When Raskin said that... | ||
| Okay, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Rudy, Rudy, Rudy, hold through a break. | ||
| We'll leave him hanging. I got the mayor, I got Marco Polo, I got Poso on Ukraine, Kerry Lake. | ||
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| Hey, Bill Barr, you think you understand what it is? | ||
| Bill Barr, you're guilty of treason, okay? | ||
| You had the information, and we can prove you had the information, and you hid it. | ||
| It's not just the Bidens. | ||
| It's the controlled opposition Republicans that are the problem. | ||
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| Rudy, what was the tell? | ||
| You're saying Barr signaled something? | ||
| Well, he's signaling something by dumping on Trump. | ||
| We're not falling into the misdirection play in Miami. | ||
| That's nonsense. It's going to be either tossed out or beaten. | ||
| We're going on offense. Our focus here is to burn the Biden crime family down to the borderline, as we say in the good old United States Navy. | ||
| Jack Posobiec will back me up on that. | ||
| We're tired of playing patty cake. | ||
| Okay? We're tired of playing patty cake. | ||
| Garrett Ziegler, who's going to join us here momentarily, said it best. | ||
| They're a family of feral dogs. | ||
| Okay? Let me be blunt. And that is not Garrett Ziegler and Steve Banner, Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| You see it for yourself in living color on the Marco Polo site. | ||
| What's the tell about Bill Barr, who to me is guilty of treason, and he and Ray got to be brought forward immediately for testimony on the record under oath before the nation, sir? | ||
| Well, right after the testimony the other day, Raskin came out and said that all of this comes from Giuliani, meaning the report, and the Justice Department declined in January to go forward with it, | ||
| found it incredible. Barr very strangely holds a press conference and says, In essence, Raskin's lying. | ||
| It was never declined. | ||
| It was ordered to be transferred to the District of Delaware because I used these U.S. attorneys to check out the credibility of a lot of information we got. | ||
| And they declined a lot of information as, you know, without substance. | ||
| But this information we certified as basically worthy of investigation. | ||
| And then it never got investigated. | ||
| So it passed an original bar instituted test as credible information on his own word. | ||
| Now, exactly why he's saying that, I don't know. | ||
| I'm sure it's true. | ||
| To get him off the hook. | ||
| To try to get himself off the hook. | ||
| Not good enough. You know why? They didn't need to give it to Delaware. | ||
| Main justice and the FBI at the top, they had the laptop from hell. | ||
| And look, it took me 20 minutes to confirm the Chinese Communist Party aspect of this, their payments by the Chinese Communist Party, and their control by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Then you get to all the perversion. | ||
| And, of course, you and Rudy will bring this up another day. | ||
| You and Carrick went down to Delaware about this whole thing about the children. | ||
| We'll save that for another day. | ||
| We'll save that for another day. | ||
| Save that for another day. It's too big to go through. | ||
| But my point is they didn't need to go be buried as some U.S. attorney in Delaware. | ||
| Maine Justice, this is a guy that they're selecting to be President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. | ||
| Don't give it to some guy in Delaware. | ||
| You had more than enough information to immediately... | ||
| Absolutely. Go to a grand jury and bring indictments on RICO charges. | ||
| Rudy, once again, how do people get to your show? | ||
| The one you do with Dr. Ryan. | ||
| By the way, we play on Getter. | ||
| On Getter, we put up Rudy's every night. | ||
| That show on Getter at night is amazing. | ||
| So where do people go, sir? We'll be on tonight, 8 to 9. | ||
| And we'll be talking about this and following up on whatever new information we have. | ||
| And it's going to be... Mayor Giuliani, America's... | ||
| A lot of this is going to break this week. | ||
| No, no, no. Rudy's the tip of the spear in this. | ||
| That's so great. It's so ironic. | ||
| I love it so much. Jamie Raskin, suck on that. | ||
| Okay, Rudy, thank you so much, Mayor. | ||
| Okay, good job. Thank you, sir. | ||
| Garrett, I want to bifurcate. | ||
| I got a couple of minutes. | ||
| I want to tell people about, are you intimidated by Abby Lowell, by the way? | ||
| Are you, does Abby Lowell scare you, the hatchet man lawyer for the Biden crime syndicate? | ||
| Does he, Hunter Biden, does he scare you, sir? | ||
| Of course not. He has a Napoleon complex anyways. | ||
| He's yesterday's news. | ||
| So tell me about your site. | ||
| What are you putting up here? | ||
| Do you agree that they had the information in November, December of 2019 to bring enough charges here of what you're putting out to the American people? | ||
| Absolutely. And we even have non-conservative whistleblowers coming forward. | ||
| We got a subpoena from an insider at J.P. Morgan that was dated in May of 2019. | ||
| A guy listed on that subpoena, Joseph Ziegler, who's no relation to me, who's a flamboyant guy, we'll just say that. | ||
| He is now coming forward as the second IRS whistleblower. | ||
| That's news because his name hasn't been released publicly. | ||
| But we know who it is. We know the first one is Gary Shapley. | ||
| He went on CBS. And then the second guy, Joseph Ziegler, is now coming forward. | ||
| I'm answering your question by saying this conspiracy and this criminal coverup is causing even the mid-level and sort of my level at the White House, the lower level people to come forward because they don't want to be the fall guys. | ||
| They don't want this inaction to be blamed on them. | ||
| They rightly want the folks making the calls to get held accountable and be blamed for this. | ||
| So we're in a weird Mexican standoff situation where everybody's holding their pistols out. | ||
| Nobody wants to be the one that the public thinks is directly responsible for this. | ||
| And that's good news for us because the truth will come out then quicker. | ||
| Garrett, real quickly, we're going to hold you. | ||
| Where do people go right now to get to your site? | ||
| I need everybody to pile into this thing and immerse yourself in this information. | ||
| Where do they go? Bidenlaptopmedia.com It has all the photos, genitalia redacted. | ||
| It has geolocation, and it has all the metadata. | ||
| It's a professional cleanse of the laptop. | ||
| We don't take anything out. | ||
| I want everybody to go. Once more time, where do people go? | ||
| What's the site? bidenlaptopmedia.com All one word. | ||
| Hang on. Garrett's going to stay with us. | ||
| By the way, maybe we put up a paywall and do the genitality. | ||
| Just kidding. Jack Posobiec, the spring offensive in Ukraine through the eyes of someone in the nose. |
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