June 10, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
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The people have had a belly full of it. | |
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | |
| Welcome to the War Room. | ||
| Welcome to the war room. | ||
| It's Natalie Winters hosting here live from Dallas, Texas at Turning Point's Young Women's Leadership Summit. | ||
| Like I said, we're in Texas. | ||
| There's no Steve here. You're stuck with me at least for the next two days. | ||
| Steve will be joining us tomorrow by Skype. | ||
| But in the meantime, we have a host of wonderful guests joining us. | ||
| A bunch of War Room posse here that we're excited to interview. | ||
| And I have to say it's great to be in Texas, really get that fighting spirit, although I sort of do feel bad being here. | ||
| Meanwhile, Trump has been indicted, but hey, we're at war. | ||
| I think we can say that. | ||
| I think Steve was talking about that earlier this morning on today's show. | ||
| So before I get to our first guest who's joining me here, which is, of course, Charlie Kirk. | ||
| The founder of Turning Point, the guy who makes all of this possible. | ||
| I just want to frame this event for the War Room audience real quick because, you know, young women, not necessarily the target audience of the War Room per se, but I think it's important because what we see right now... | ||
| Is that Donald Trump, right? | ||
| They always say they want to get to us. | ||
| They're just going for him first, right? | ||
| He's the guy who defends us. | ||
| And when we talk about that us, it's the war room posse. | ||
| It's the war room audience, right? | ||
| It's the people who are behind us, the people who really care about this issue. | ||
| And I think that we've seen that firsthand in terms of a lot of the issues that affect women, right? | ||
| Whether it's the transgender participation in sports, the crazy stuff they're pushing in schools, CRT, DEI, DIE, frankly. | ||
| But I think we've had a lot of victories on that front, right? | ||
| And I think it sort of gives us a playbook as to how to push back, because normal people can see through the craziness, and I think they're seeing through that with the Trump indictment. | ||
| So, before we get into the Trump indictment, I'd love to talk about that with you. | ||
| Can you talk about what we have going on here in Texas? | ||
| This is history here. | ||
| It's our eighth annual Young Women's Leadership Summit. | ||
| We only missed one year because of COVID. Only one year. | ||
| I forgive you. We still did a lot of events that summer, but we weren't really allowed to do it. | ||
| We have over 2,000 young ladies from across the country, all 50 states represented. | ||
| We have people from multiple countries. | ||
| This is probably the most important women's summit we've ever done. | ||
| Right now, the regime, the CIA, the FBI, they cannot tell you what a woman is. | ||
| So we quickly went from hosting this Young Women's Leadership Summit, we used to have it kind of as a refutation of 60s age liberalism and feminism, to now that stuff is considered to be bigoted and hateful. | ||
| Now we're talking about weird, creepy, narcissistic freaks in dresses who think they're women. | ||
| And so we're going to play offense with this. | ||
| The attendance numbers are unbelievable. | ||
| You can see the energy. | ||
| It's off the charts. They've been standing here for hours just trying to get in. | ||
| And obviously, you know, once the line goes through, they will. | ||
| Packed room, 2,000-plus seats. | ||
| We have over 80 media coming from across the world. | ||
| They're so interested in this. | ||
| And this is the front lines. | ||
| These are the high school chapters. | ||
| These are the college chapters. | ||
| And, you know, for those of you in the audience that have not yet had a chance, To attend one of these events, I highly recommend it. | ||
| It's a game changer. And so that's what's happening here. | ||
| And it's in Dallas, Texas. | ||
| Not too late. Men, you are not allowed here. | ||
| So you have to be a woman or a young woman, a mom of some sort. | ||
| Come by and buy a ticket tonight, all day tomorrow, and then Sunday. | ||
| Well, I think the key point you made is that we're not on defense. | ||
| We're on offense, right? | ||
| And that was, I think, one of the main themes of this morning's show, and especially with this Trump indictment stuff going on. | ||
| So I want to, since I have you, I don't know how long I have you for, but while I have you here... | ||
| The A block, I'm told. Whatever that looks like. | ||
| Start with the best and go down from there. | ||
| You had a pretty viral tweet, as I'm told by your staff, talking about the Republican primary in the sense, I think, when you actually want to go after the deep state, you need unity, right? | ||
| You need cohesion. So what are your thoughts on these contenders, the Keebler Elves in the Republican primary? | ||
| Currently is able to stay permanent because it's in both political parties. | ||
| If it was just in the Democrat Party, it by definition would become less powerful. | ||
| So if you have an opposition party that's actually people-centric, that stands for the Constitution, that's a real threat against this Leviathan. | ||
| So I sent a tweet out as the indictment news came down from President Trump. | ||
| I said everybody running for the presidency should suspend their campaign. | ||
| Go down to Miami on Tuesday and give some show of support. | ||
| You don't have to say something nice about Trump. | ||
| It'd be nice if you would. You don't have to do that. | ||
| Instead, you should talk about how this is an egregious defecation of the United States constitutional order, how this is an insult to all of our combined intelligence, how this is a Maoist, Soviet-style persecution of a duly elected president. | ||
| who did nothing wrong and then using the Department of Justice with a Hague lawyer who goes after war criminals to treat Donald Trump as if he's a war criminal. | ||
| Every candidate should do that. | ||
| They're not. A lot of their influencers are mocking the idea, but I did that to draw a line in the sand to say, okay, that means that you care more about your own political power than you do about the American people, about the Constitution. | ||
| All we're asking is for you to go down to Miami and say, hey, For example, I'm Nikki Haley. | ||
| I'm Asa Hutchinson. I'm Mike Pence. | ||
| I'm Chris Christie. I don't like Donald Trump. | ||
| I'm running against him. But this is wrong. | ||
| They're not going to do that. | ||
| And that should tell you exactly what we're dealing with. | ||
| Of course, I think they've always been controlled opposition. | ||
| I think the way that the deep state tries to nullify the Trump presidency, whether it's since before he won in 2016, obviously in 2020. | ||
| Now we're seeing it again with 2024, with these four sort of old neocon talking points being rammed through, whether the vessel is Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, you name it. | ||
| But I also want to ask you, because according to the Department of Homeland Security, you and I are on the first steps. | ||
| I think you're probably a little further along than I am. | ||
| You're okay, you're stuck too. | ||
| By the way, the reason why the Department of Homeland Security is afraid is because of this. | ||
| Because of the 2,000 young ladies that we have here, 2,000 plus, they would rather have me talking about, you know, invading Somalia to a group of nine people. | ||
| To have 2,000 activistic, energetic young people that do not embrace the idea of neoliberalism, that want strong families, that think that the trans idea virus and parasite must be destroyed. | ||
| That's a threat, so the Department of Homeland Security loops us in as domestic terrorists. | ||
| For people who don't know what we're talking about, I know a lot of people like to smear us as domestic terrorists, but there was a multi-million dollar taxpayer funded effort that was actually, they had created a really great graphic, Denver had it, they could throw it up. | ||
| It was the pyramid. The pyramid. | ||
| You guys should have that platform. | ||
| Yeah, well you know what, we should have it, and I should give it out to all the 80 media reporters that are going to be here. | ||
| But I think that gets really to the issue, the thing itself, as Steve would say, and what I mean by that. | ||
| When you actually see these people congregating, right, it's very powerful, right? | ||
| I think part of the reason that they wanted to lock us down and keep us masked and separated was because you lost that sense of community, and that's why I think these events that you guys do are really so important. | ||
| So if you just want to talk a little bit about what else you guys are doing in terms of the event space, and again, what exactly is going on here and how people can still congregate. | ||
| These are our best known programming, but it's not even a majority of what we do. | ||
| The backbone of Turning Point USA is the gritty stuff, is the hustle work, is the clipboard and tennis shoes, high school chapters, college chapters, organizing, on the front lines. | ||
| That's the backbone of Turning Point USA. That's who's attending these training events. | ||
| That's who's coming to get trained. | ||
| That's who's coming to get filled up. | ||
| And then we have TPUSA Faith. | ||
| We just had 1,100 pastors at our Pastors Summit. | ||
| We have our Educators Summit coming up next week in Deerfield, Illinois, where we're going to have hundreds of teachers, government and private school teachers going through some training. | ||
| We have our big ACTCon coming up in July. | ||
| Steve's going to be there. | ||
| I think War Room's going to be there live, where we have Tucker Carlson. | ||
| We have President Donald Trump. | ||
| We have Josh Hawley, Dan Bongino, just to name a few. | ||
| Every Republican candidate. Just a few people you may have heard of. | ||
| By the way, every Republican candidate is welcome. | ||
| And my commitment is I will go out before you go up and tell the audience to be respectful. | ||
| I can't guarantee it, right? | ||
| But why wouldn't Chris Christie, Mike Pence, Assa Hutchinson show up to an event where we're going to have thousands of grassroots leaders? | ||
| That's coming up, by the way, in July. | ||
| TPaction.com. And I think there's a promo code WARROOM. Steve has been pushing that. | ||
| So try to get that, guys. | ||
| We'd love to have you. So yeah, we're just doing a lot, Natalie. | ||
| We're hiring more staff. | ||
| We have over 300 people on staff now. | ||
| We're doubling the size of our high school programming. | ||
| Our digital social media is doing super well. | ||
| And then obviously my show, which is separate at Turning Point, but works in Harmony, is doing really well. | ||
| Praise God. I'm just curious, too, again, while I have you, there's some issues going on with the timing, but we'll persevere. | ||
| I'm obviously young, but most of the time when I talk to people my age, it's not often, they don't always seem to necessarily understand the scope of what we're dealing with, right? | ||
| The very interesting timing of the FBI returning over the FD1023 form and then Trump gets indicted. | ||
| Oh, by the way, Ukraine gets $2 billion more in aid. | ||
| Interesting timing. Do you think that young people, not just that they understand conservative principles and conservative values, but do you think they conceive of the fight that we have right now as globalists versus the people? | ||
| Do you think that has really cut through? | ||
| I think our people, our audience does, praise God, and they're really starting to get the word out. | ||
| Most young people, the majority of the country, they're focused on the immediate and the personal and The macro seems to be a little overwhelming and abstract, which is funny because it's also the same generation of things that are going to die of climate change, which is like the most macro apocalyptic thing you could believe in, right? So which is it, right? | ||
| It's like, oh, you're just being conspiracy theorists. | ||
| Meanwhile, the world's going to end in 10 years. | ||
| Like, okay, that's the actual conspiracy theory. | ||
| I think the world's going to end in 10 years. | ||
| So you can't have it both ways. | ||
| So it's a walking contradiction, like most generations are. | ||
| Most generations are contradictions. | ||
| But... Nate Cohn from the New York Times came out and decisively said the work that we're doing at Turning Point is working. | ||
| He didn't say that. But he said that this generation is far more conservative than people thought. | ||
| The Obama generation is now 50-50 conservative liberal. | ||
| And so the Turning Point model, Turning Point Action, Turning Point USA through Education, Turning Point Academy, TPSA Faith, it is working. | ||
| And it's taken a lot of work. | ||
| You know, 3,000 days on the road I've had in the last decade. | ||
| I've seen this country many times over. | ||
| You know, dedicated a lot. | ||
| You've done a lot. Steve's done a lot. | ||
| We're all working. And we are seeing some fruit. | ||
| This Trump indictment thing has multiple layers to it. | ||
| It's a grotesque moment for our republic. | ||
| It is a drive-by shooting of the United States Constitution. | ||
| Rachel Maddow really, you know, spilled it last night on MSNBC where she said, hey, he could do a plea deal where he's not running for the presidency. | ||
| One of the most outrageous things I've heard. | ||
| Oh yeah, by the way, if you stop running for president, we'll back off. | ||
| Like, okay, thanks for showing the cards. | ||
| Saying the quiet part out loud. | ||
| Yeah, thanks for showing the agenda there. | ||
| And then you have, in the indictment, saying that the trial could take anyone from 21 to 60 days. | ||
| They're gonna try to time this right up. | ||
| Donald Trump will likely be facing four separate criminal indictments. | ||
| One in New York, two by Jack Smith. | ||
| They're gonna go for January 6th next. | ||
| January 6th will be August, right, with Georgia. | ||
| And then they're going to try to retry the Gene, whatever that stupid Carol thing is. | ||
| Not even worth saying. | ||
| It's not even worth saying. I don't know. | ||
| I can't remember her name. So this is Crossfire MAGA 2024. | ||
| The Durham thing was a big disappointment, but that was looking backwards. | ||
| We need to look in real time. | ||
| They're not playing games anymore. | ||
| It's such a threat, this movement. | ||
| I don't think they ever have been. | ||
| No, they ever have. Well, I will say in 16, they didn't go all out. | ||
| This is very important. | ||
| I know we're up against the brakes. | ||
| I know that clock. In 2016, they did a vanilla version of Intel interference in an election. | ||
| It was like, oh, struck, stroke, smirk, the lover, Lisa Page, we'll try to do some things, FISA warrant. | ||
| You know, those were half measures compared to 2020. | ||
| And 2020 is half measures compared to here. | ||
| So they basically swore a blood oath where they cut their wrists like weird pagan freaks. | ||
| And they said, we're never going to let this happen again. | ||
| And that's this. This is, we are not going to allow this monster to become president again. | ||
| You're living through it. Indeed. | ||
| And Charlie, one more time, if people want to come to this event, but come to the other events, where can they go? | ||
| Yeah, so if you're in the Texas area, if you know Oklahoma, or you want to take a road trip from Arkansas, there's still time, tpusa.com. | ||
| Just show up, say War Room sent you, we'll give you a good deal. | ||
| Only women, men, sorry, you can watch online. | ||
| But if you want to come to our Educator Summit, if you are an educator, go to tpusa.com. | ||
| If you want to come to our Action Conference in July, Tucker Carlson, Donald Trump, it'll be in Southern Florida, Palm Beach, tpaction.com. | ||
| Go right now, tpaction.com. | ||
| Charlie, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| She's doing a great job, isn't she, everybody? | ||
| It's not easy to fill in. | ||
| Good job, Natalie. Very big shoes to fill, but we'll be right back because we have a lot more stuff to cover. | ||
| We've got Jeff Clark, Mike Davis, rep Andy Biggs, Captain Bannon. | ||
| A lot more. Hang in there. We'll be right back. | ||
| 90-second break. Welcome back to the War Room. | ||
| Natalie Winters holding the fort down here for Stephen K. Bannon at Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Summit. | ||
| Now, I'm pretty sure it's probably in my contract that I have to say Chinese Communist Party in every single show that I do. | ||
| I have to say this whole Trump indictment thing has me thinking, you guys remember, I think it was last year when the Chinese Communist Party had their annual meeting and you saw Xi Jinping and all of the CCP apparatchiks wheel out Hu Jintao, remember? | ||
| They grabbed him and he looked really discombobulated, pulled him out. | ||
| Who knows what happened to him? | ||
| That's exactly what they're doing with Donald Trump. | ||
| We always talk about here on The War Room how it's not It's not elite compromise. | ||
| It's elite merger. | ||
| And that's exactly what you see going on here. | ||
| Remember, lawfare is one of the Chinese Communist Party's paramount strategies when it comes to political warfare. | ||
| And that's what you see going on here on American soil against really, I would argue, one of the few presidents, if not the only president, who actually took on the Chinese Communist Party with a level of nuance. | ||
| That you frankly don't see in the city of Washington, D.C., probably because it's owned by China. | ||
| But in the meantime, I want to talk about someone who has also been persecuted by a regime in Chinese Communist Party-style fashion, and that is, of course, no other than Jeff Clark. | ||
| I've got Mike Davis joining us soon. | ||
| I have to say, I'm not a sexist, but I do like how it is the Young Women's Leadership Summit, and all my guests, I think, are going to be male this show, but... | ||
| I know where this country gets its real power from. | ||
| But Jeff Clark, your thoughts, because you weren't on War Room this morning. | ||
| Your thoughts on this indictment? | ||
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Sure. So I've now had a chance to read through the indictment. | |
| And I think that, you know, it's a good attempt to focus the issues on what Jack Smith and the others at DOJ under Biden want to focus it on. | ||
| But what it ignores are the other key legal statutes and principles that are on the field. | ||
| Namely, constitutionally, first and foremost, we're talking about a president, a commander in chief, and he has the ability to declassify documents. | ||
| He runs that entire regime. | ||
| If he is keeping documents, as many presidents have in the past, if he has a staff to ensure security, if he is given a budget to You know, have a SCIF and Secret Service protection, etc. | ||
| It's an entirely different situation than any normal government employee who comes in for a few years and then leaves. | ||
| And then most importantly, the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| The indictment is mum about the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| That's going to be a key defense for Donald Trump in this. | ||
| And as I explained a short time actually before coming on with you to Bill Mitchell, who was, you know, doing a shtick of it's all over for Donald Trump now. | ||
| I'm sorry. I've read the indictment. | ||
| He's cooked. I beg to differ and said, look, it's ignoring the defenses under the Presidential Records Act, and it's ignoring how you actually construe multiple statutes that have to interface with one another, how to harmonize them. | ||
| The specific controls the general, and clearly in this instance, the specific is the Presidential Records Act. | ||
| The Espionage Act is not designed to regulate a president, and historically at the time, That statute dates back to. | ||
| It was long before anything like the Presidential Records Act where the president just had ownership in property, right? | ||
| Like it was fee simple for those out there who know something about property law, that he held these papers as his actual physical property. | ||
| To imagine that that statute was designed to intrude on the powers of the presidency under Article II, And then override how classification works, etc., which is all traceable within the plenary power of the president, makes no sense. | ||
| And so I think Donald Trump's lawyers are going to have a field day with that defense, and it's telling that Jack Smith's indictment is just silent about it, right? | ||
| He's whistling past the graveyard of that defense by President Trump, Natalie. | ||
| You know, I think it's pretty ironic, and it shouldn't be lost on anyone, at least from an optics perspective. | ||
| They put the guy who used to oversee the Hague, the same court that is responsible for overseeing war crimes, people who commit genocide against their own people and others, that's the guy that they repositioned to go after Donald Trump. | ||
| Ironically, the guy who didn't start any new foreign wars, the guy who actually pulled us out of those wars. | ||
| I know Trump is Hitler, according to the left, but still, it doesn't seem to warrant someone coming over from The Hague. | ||
| But I'm just curious. | ||
| It seems like such a weak case, right? | ||
| Legally. It doesn't really seem like they have the merits. | ||
| But in your opinion, do you think that they don't even care about the legal framework, really the law as an actual theater of war? | ||
| It's always just been about the court of public opinion. | ||
| They want to have Joe Biden as replete in irony as it could be in hypocrisy. | ||
| They want to have Joe Biden be able to stand, probably fall, but stand up there and be able to call out Donald Trump as someone who's violated the Espionage Act. | ||
| What is the driving force behind this? | ||
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I think the driving force behind it is the completely illegitimate objective, Natalie, of removing an option from the voters in November of 2024 or, you know, trying to even interfere with that choice in primaries or in debates, et cetera, by, you know, just casting a cloud over President Donald Trump. | |
| Look, if lightning strikes and they manage to get a conviction because of, you know, the luck of the draw on the jury or something like that, it's hard for me to imagine that it really could survive appeal to the 11th Circuit or review by the Supreme Court. | ||
| But let's say, you know, they could clear all those hurdles. | ||
| I think they see that as gravy. | ||
| They see that as icing on the cake. | ||
| But the process is the punishment. | ||
| The fact that the president of the United States is going to have to defend himself against these, you know, Very weak and far removed from primary criminal conduct allegations is the victory. | ||
| It is the objective. I described this earlier, so let me rehash it because maybe people will get it more now. | ||
| There are primary crimes like bribery. | ||
| That's exactly what we're looking at potentially with Joe Biden in terms of bribery that the House Oversight Committee, through this whistleblower, has You know, looked at and unveiled. | ||
| But President Trump isn't guilty of any primary crime. | ||
| So then they go to obstruction. | ||
| You know, we're investigating, you know, a potential primary crime. | ||
| Like, they don't have that. | ||
| So then they go to a documents crime. | ||
| And for all the reasons we've been discussing for over many weeks now, like under the Presidential Records Act, you know, and given the president's plenary power over declassification, you know, they don't really have a documents crime either. | ||
| So what did they do now? | ||
| What they're really presenting, the heart of the case, I think, is an obstruction case based on a documents case, right? | ||
| So you're now three levels of removed. | ||
| It's not a primary crime. | ||
| It's not a secondary crime, which would be obstruction of a primary crime. | ||
| It's not a tertiary crime, which is a documents crime. | ||
| It's an obstruction crime about a tertiary crime. | ||
| It's a quaternary crime. | ||
| It's that far removed. | ||
| From primary illegal conduct. | ||
| And this is the best, you know, that they've been able to come up with after, you know, who knows how many assaults on President Trump. | ||
| I lose count of, you know, how many we got him now and this time kinds of allegations they've launched since 2015, 2016. | ||
| Well, speaking of primaries, you know, I think Republicans who are still in the race and who have not actually issued substantive meaningful statements in support of Donald Trump, which really is just a vessel, someone who represents the thing itself, the weaponization of the administrative state against the American people, they're aiding and abetting the administrative state. | ||
| They've already failed the first test as to whether or not they're controlled opposition. | ||
| You're someone, you worked in the Trump administration, you understand the politics, What is your take on some of these Republican contenders who are still sticking in the primary, who have yet to offer meaningful statements, and really not just statements, but action, action, action, when it comes to the weaponization, full-scale, complete and total weaponization of the deep state against Donald Trump? | ||
| I got about two minutes before I have to let you go. | ||
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Sure. So, Natalie, what I would say there is, look, if these candidates were smart, And they also wanted to unify the Republican Party and put the best case forward for some Republican to be elected in 2024. | |
| They would all link arms and they would say, look, we have various differences. | ||
| All depends on the candidate with Donald Trump. | ||
| But we all agree that this is a witch hunt, that this is a perversion of the American system of justice. | ||
| It cannot continue. | ||
| And we, on that front, will lend our united support against President Trump. | ||
| And if they were really, really, really smart, they would show up next Tuesday and they would all try to grab the microphone and explain why it is that this is a perversion of our constitutional system, Natalie. | ||
| But I don't think they're going to do that. | ||
| It seems like they're going to just, you know, purport, some of them will purport to want to help President Trump, but, you know, secretly they're hoping that he goes down. | ||
| Jeff Clark, if people want to stay up to date with what you're working on at the Center for Renewing America, where can they find you and follow you? | ||
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Sure. So, Natalie, thanks. | |
| I'm at JeffClarkUS on Twitter and Getter, and at RealJeffClark on Truth Social, and I see you have The website up, that is americarenewing.com. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us, Jeff, and shout out to Denver for getting that website up. | ||
| Well, I'm still here at Turning Point USA's Young Women's Leadership Summit. | ||
| We're going to have Mike Davis joining us after the break. | ||
| But just remember, I know it might seem like ill-time to have this event, right, talking about fun girl stuff as Donald Trump and his family are going through hell. | ||
| Really, I think you could almost argue it's kinetic warfare in its own sense, at least the lawfare side of it. | ||
| But remember, the issue, whether it's transgender participation in female sports, the CRT in the classrooms, these issues particularly that moms have gotten really fired up about, I think that gives us a very nice and powerful and really salient playbook how to push back against the weaponization of the federal government, against people, against the decisions that you can make over your own body. | ||
| Over what you do with your life. | ||
| Over what your children are allowed to do. | ||
| What vaccines they're allowed to take or not to take. | ||
| And fundamentally it comes down to what you perceive of reality. | ||
| Because we're not going to be gaslit by the deep state into thinking Donald Trump is guilty of violating the Espionage Act. | ||
| Or someone who needs a prosecutor. | ||
| All the way over from The Hague. | ||
| Someone who should be prosecuting genocidal dictators. | ||
| Prosecuting the only guy who ever got this country out of all these unnecessary foreign wars started by these same exact people who are trying now to put him in jail for the rest of his life. | ||
| We'll be right back. Mike Davis. | ||
| Documents. You know it. | ||
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Hang in there. He's facing 37 counts, but the question we all had was, what were those counts going to be? | |
| He has been charged with willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, This is not a brief... | ||
| A small, a tightly focused, if you will, one or two instances. | ||
| This is what you would have expected, given the stakes, given the amount of time that was taken with this. | ||
| Incredibly well detailed with photos, with instances, with pages and pages of examples of specific documents. | ||
| That's what's in this indictment. | ||
| 31 counts for the Espionage Act alone. | ||
| 31 counts for the Espionage Act alone. | ||
| Yeah, I think we passed the Rubicon as a country. | ||
| We now have to deal with this. | ||
| And if you're someone who hates Donald Trump and says that it's not going to be a fair outcome unless he's convicted, you're wrong. | ||
| Because he is presumed innocent and we have to go through the trial process. | ||
| If you're someone who says, and Mr. | ||
| Ray referred Brawley to this, that he can't get a fair trial, then you don't believe in America because he can. | ||
| You know what they say about crossing the Rubicon? | ||
| You can't turn back. | ||
| It doesn't matter. We're at war with the Deep State. | ||
| We have been since the inception of this show, since the days of War Room Impeachment, War Room Pandemic, and now War Room 2020, and now War Room 2024. | ||
| Thank God they took Anthony Fauci out of these shows intro because I can only take so many Deep State people in this show for so long. | ||
| But I think we have Mike Davis joining us. | ||
| Again, I feel bad. | ||
| It's the Young Women's Leadership Summit. | ||
| I'm only having male guests. | ||
| Although maybe they're young, I guess, and they're leaders. | ||
| There you go. But, Mike, if you want to give us your thoughts, primarily on the indictment, but the all-too-convenient timing of the fact that it drops the same day that the GOP Oversight Committee manages to get its hands, its claws, on the FD-1023 form being completely stonewalled and covered up and heavily redacted by the FBI. Today's indictment confirms what we've known since August. | ||
| Natalie, we've said this a lot on The War Room, that this is a political hit on President Trump. | ||
| And it is a political hit to go get back Trump's declassified crossfire hurricane records that he declassified via presidential memo on January 19th, 2021. | ||
| He's allowed to take them to the office of former president in Mar-a-Lago, just like President Clinton was allowed to take eight years of highly classified recordings of his presidency, including discussions with other foreign leaders, the most classified documents imaginable. | ||
| They're presidential records. | ||
| These are presidents of the United States. | ||
| They're not low-level employees of the Department of Defense. | ||
| As a matter of constitutional law, we treat presidents and former presidents differently. | ||
| As a matter of statute, we treat them differently. | ||
| The Presidential Records Act applies to presidents and former presidents and their handling of their presidential records. | ||
| The Espionage Act does not apply to them. | ||
| The Espionage Act would apply to a former vice president like Joe Biden or a former Secretary of State like Hillary Clinton and how they used stolen classified records for their corrupt foreign dealings. | ||
| That's not what we have here. | ||
| We have a former president having his presidential records in the office of former president, which Congress provides office space, secure office space, federally funded staff with security clearances, Secret Service protection. | ||
| Again, these documents never leaked for 18 months that Trump had them until Biden ordered this home raid on Trump under the bogus pretext, under the smokescreen, that they were getting classified records. | ||
| It doesn't matter whether they're classified records. | ||
| They're presidential records. Trump was allowed to have them. | ||
| Again, the whole reason for this was to get The crossfire hurricane records that were so damning. | ||
| And so the timing is obviously political. | ||
| They did this the day after the House Oversight Committee came forward with the nail-in-the-coffin evidence that the FBI has covered up since 2017 that Biden and Hunter took $10 million in bribes, $5 to Joe, $5 to Hunter from Burisma when Joe Biden was the vice president of the United States and they changed American policy. | ||
| Joe Biden told the Ukrainian president that he was going to lose a billion dollars in USAID if the Ukrainian president didn't fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma and the Bitens. | ||
| Joe bragged about this. | ||
| Vice President Biden bragged about this on TV. He didn't connect the fact that he got five million dollars For himself and $5 million for Hunter to do this, that's what the evidence shows. | ||
| That's why this unprecedented indictment of a former president is coming out today to cover up for the fact that Biden has this damning evidence that got That's where we are. | ||
| Fortunately, this case is before Judge Cannon in the Southern District of Florida. | ||
| Judge Cannon is a very smart, fair judge. | ||
| She understands the difference between the Presidential Records Act that applies to presidents and former presidents and the Espionage Act that does not. | ||
| And so Trump will get a fair trial down it with Judge Cannon. | ||
| This will get resolved. It may have to get resolved by the Supreme Court eventually. | ||
| Trump will absolutely prevail. | ||
| And what the American people should do is rally behind President Trump because this is so much bigger than Donald J. Trump. | ||
| This is about our country. If you can indict your political enemies like Biden has done here, we have become a third-world Marxist hellhole, and that is the end of the American Republic. | ||
| We know how this regime works, right? | ||
| They operate by the Alinsky tactic of accusing the enemy of what you're guilty of. | ||
| It's projection at its finest. | ||
| Frankly, I think the fact that they're going after Donald Trump proves that they're guilty. | ||
| I guess, honestly, we should be going after them for espionage because maybe that's what this whole entire Biden family crime syndicate has been about. | ||
| A Linsky-ite axiom would tell us, but it's really interesting, right? | ||
| Because it's not just that they're going after Trump. | ||
| They're also trying to silence all of the people who can potentially defend him, whether it's Jeff Clark in the DC bar, whether it's nuking Tucker. | ||
| On Fox News, how about this? | ||
| Going after Ken Paxton, AG down in Texas, all this talk about conservative AGs actually returning these lawfare charges that they're pressing against Donald Trump, doing that to the Democrats. | ||
| And you see just weeks later, Ken Paxton impeached one of his allies, arrested by the FBI. It's not just one conspiracy, it's multiple conspiracies. | ||
| And I know Steve likes to say conspiracies and not coincidences. | ||
| Or rather, coincidences, not conspiracies, but I think it's the other way around. | ||
| I know, I don't like to disagree with my boss all that often, but in this case, I do, because the timing is just, it's absolutely bizarre. | ||
| But Mike, in terms of actually being able to fight back, I know you're one of the harshest critics of the House Oversight Committee and the Weaponization Subcommittee, basically all the committees we have going on. | ||
| On the Hill, do you think what they're doing is enough? | ||
| I've always been a fan of James Comer and the Oversight Committee. | ||
| Let me make that very clear. | ||
| I think he's doing fantastic oversight. | ||
| I was a critic for a long time of Jim Jordan because of his position on big tech and his slow start on oversight, but Jim Jordan is doing a fantastic job. | ||
| I was a big critic of Kevin McCarthy, but I think that he's doing a good job on this oversight stuff, too. | ||
| We need to rally as Republicans. | ||
| We need to rally together. | ||
| We need to rally We need to rally around our Republican leaders in Congress, because you know what? | ||
| Again, this is so much bigger than Donald Trump. | ||
| This is so much bigger than the Republican Party. | ||
| Our country is on the line. | ||
| This is said too much, but they have crossed the Rubicon. | ||
| This is going to mean there's going to be a weaponization tit for tat going forward that is just not very healthy. | ||
| But I'll tell you what needs to happen. | ||
| We need to give Democrats a healthy dose of their own medicine. | ||
| So I would say that House Republicans, these committee chairmen, start issuing subpoenas Immediately. | ||
| For the 51 intel goons who said that the Hunter Biden laptop was a Russian disinformation campaign in 2020 to help cover for Joe Biden's troubles, to cover for the fact that Hunter Biden's laptop got picked up by the New York Post, America's oldest newspaper, and the New York Post was going to report Joe Biden's Foreign bribery schemes, his foreign corruption. | ||
| The Democrats did the same play in 2016 when they accused Trump of Russian collusion and launched the Crossfire Hurricane illegal investigation to hobble his presidency. | ||
| They got illegal spy warrants by lying to the FISA court on Carter Page and others. | ||
| We need to go after the Democrats for their real crimes. | ||
| Hillary Clinton for her real crimes, her real espionage where she took She had a classified server and she had an illegal foreign bribery scheme, pay-for-play bribery scheme at the Clinton Foundation. | ||
| We have to look at Joe Biden and his sleazeball family. | ||
| Every Biden seems to be on the Chinese, Ukrainian, Romanian, other foreign governments' payrolls. | ||
| Millions and millions and millions of dollars, at least $10 million that we know of from this Ukraine bribe, $6 million that House Oversight Chairman James Comer has been able to identify just with one bank account with 11 more, $6 million from China. | ||
| That's $16 million that they can pin just from China and Ukraine with just one bank account. | ||
| Just imagine what else they can find on the Bidens. | ||
| Every Biden has gotten money except for the four-year-old granddaughter who they don't claim. | ||
| They're just total scumbags. | ||
| It's espionage. | ||
| It's foreign corruption. | ||
| It's obstruction. Like Hillary when she destroyed her home, destroyed the evidence. | ||
| Everything they accuse Trump of doing, they're doing. | ||
| So let's start moving forward with our own subpoenas. | ||
| Let's make them spend $200,000 responding to a subpoena, getting lawyers, sitting through staff depositions. | ||
| Turning over their documents. | ||
| Sitting through public hearings. | ||
| Let's go after the 51 intel goons. | ||
| Let's go after Obama. | ||
| Let's go after the AG. Let's go after James Comey, the former FBI director. | ||
| Let's go after Andrew McCabe. | ||
| Let's go after Peter Strzok. | ||
| Start issuing subpoenas. | ||
| Mike Davis, thank you as always for coming on the show, even when it's the time of the Young Women's Leadership Summit. | ||
| I have to say I'm surprised Hunter Biden's not here. | ||
| It seems like an event he'd be into. | ||
| But Mike Davis, if people want to stay in touch with you and follow you, where can they find you? | ||
| I would say that Hunter Biden likes girls who are younger and his own family members, so he's not going to be there. | ||
| It's article3project.org, article3project.org, At Article 3 Project, at Article 3 Project on Getter, Twitter, Truth. | ||
| And my personal is at MRDDMIA. MRDDMIA. Thank you very much, Natalie. | ||
| Thank you for joining us. | ||
| You know, I was going to say, anyways, even though it's the Young Women's Leadership Summit, I still think it's probably too old for Hunter Biden, so sorry. | ||
| But we still got Captain Bannon joining us in the next block, and I think Representative Andy Biggs, but I just want to tie something together here, the connective tissue, the issue itself. | ||
| Remember those traitorous House Republicans who voted for that debt ceiling raise? | ||
| You gave away all your leverage. | ||
| You gave away all your power. | ||
| You have blood on your hands for the indictment of President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Because you know why? They're not scared anymore. | ||
| The FBI doesn't have to turn over this document. | ||
| Yeah, they let the Oversight Committee see a pretty redacted version. | ||
| The American people still haven't seen it. | ||
| And when you gave them no cap spending trillions Whatever the next increment is above that, whatever they want to spend, they can, and you can't even renegotiate it until two years from now. | ||
| They want Donald Trump to be rotting in jail by then. | ||
| They don't want to even have the option to renegotiate that. | ||
| Like I said, you have blood on your hands for the indictment of Donald J. Trump giving away this country, all the leverage that this House majority had. | ||
| They need to start acting like the majority because we are. | ||
| Who cares what the Senate does? | ||
| Let's actually get some real oversight. | ||
| And get the deep state actually scared for once. | ||
| That's an emotion I'd love to see. | ||
| Well, I don't think there's a lot of scared people here, a lot of happy people here. | ||
| I seem to be the only one yelling. | ||
| More yelling when we come back. | ||
| Natalie Winters War Room will be right back. | ||
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| You know what's the worst part about the deep state, about the administrative state, is how in-your-face they are. | ||
| There's a reason why Steve calls them the in-your-face state. | ||
| And you know what they did today? They said, we're gonna give Ukraine $200 billion more in weaponry. | ||
| And I have to say, again, no conspiracies, only coincidences. | ||
| But it is curious to me. | ||
| Something does not smell right when it comes to the Ukraine conflict. | ||
| I have to say, the day after we get documents showing that the Biden family took millions of dollars in exchange for policy formulations and configurations advantageous to certain Ukrainian oligarchs, all of a sudden they almost get what you would call... | ||
| I don't know, bargaining money? | ||
| Something like that? $200 billion, to be specific? | ||
| I don't know. Something doesn't smell right to me, and I'm sure something doesn't smell right to my dear friend and co-host, until we have to get to Representative Andy Biggs, who will be co-hosting with me tomorrow, is, of course, Captain Bannon. | ||
| Yay! Thank you. Round of applause. | ||
| In the meantime, I don't want to cut you off, but I also don't want to cut off Congressman Biggs. | ||
| So I would love to get your thoughts, Congressman, on all things Trump indictment. | ||
| Well, first of all, it's a very flimsy indictment in my opinion. | ||
| It's based on these assertions which would normally be handled. | ||
| civilly or not in a criminal court. | ||
| That's number one. Number two, and the more important thing, I kind of buried the lead there, the more important thing is this is being done for political purposes. | ||
| The Democrats in the left have gone after Donald Trump since he came down the golden escalator. | ||
| Hillary Clinton is the person, her campaign funded, Hillary Clinton okayed it, the initial Steele dossier to try to link President Trump, then candidate Trump, with Russia. | ||
| So this has gone on basically for seven years now. | ||
| And they keep going and every time it all comes out, They look bad because the truth does not support their crazy allegations. | ||
| And I'll give you the third thing that drives me crazy about this is on a day that we were looking and receiving a document That really insinuates Joe Biden was involved in a bribery scheme, a pay-for-play corruption scheme, where he received $5 million and Hunter received $5 million. | ||
| What do we find? | ||
| All of a sudden, here's a distraction. | ||
| It's the Donald Trump indictment that's consistent with when the Durham report came out and just whitewashed, not whitewashed, but exposed the FBI. Here comes the George Santos indictment. | ||
| It's a constant attack on Donald Trump, which is a constant attack on Americans who support him, and it's a constant attack on our constitutional way of life. | ||
| Congressman, I have one quick follow-up question. | ||
| Unfortunately, we are pressed for time, so I'm going to have to let you go. | ||
| But Representative Nancy Mace was on the show earlier today, and she actually said that in the documents she reviewed, she saw that the Biden family was bragging how it would take at least 10 years for members of the American public to actually uncover some of the money that Ukraine had given them. | ||
| In other words, this very complex shell game of LLCs and sort of Swapping who they were giving money to, who was taking it, the LLC, like I said, shell game. | ||
| Is there any further evidence or commentary that you can give us on that allegation from Representative Mace? | ||
| And like I said, I only got about a minute until I have to let you go. | ||
| Yeah, the individuals who made that statement were redacted, so we don't know exactly who it was, but they did say it would take 10 years to link that individual with the Biden family, particularly Joe Biden. | ||
| But we do have now over 170 suspicious activity reports with many, many bank transaction reports. | ||
| We're still going through those, which confirm that this is a labyrinth of LLCs and bank accounts designed to hide the corrupt pay-for-pay scheme that appears the Biden family, the entire family, including Joe Biden, was a part of. So that's, yeah, that really seems to be accurate right now. | ||
| No time for summer soldiers. | ||
| We need winter soldiers. | ||
| No pun intended. | ||
| Congressman, if people want to follow you and stay up to date with what you're working on, where can they find you? | ||
| I can go to at RepAndyBiggsAZ. | ||
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| Thank you so much. I have to say, back when I was in high school and I wanted to intern on the Hill, I would only intern for members who had A ratings from Numbers USA because they tried to restrict immigration and Congressman Biggs was one of the few. | ||
| So, you've always been a patriot. | ||
| Someone who has obviously always been a patriot is, of course, Captain Bannon. | ||
| Now, I have to have on a female guest because it would be wrong to do the Young Women's Leadership Summit, opening salvo, opening show with that one. | ||
| So, real quick, your thoughts on this $200 billion ridiculous aid package to Ukraine. | ||
| Like you said, I think it's ridiculous. | ||
| I think that this money could go towards things in the United States, such as, I don't know, the border wall, maybe our military. | ||
| I understand our military has become woke. | ||
| It's not the military that I was in. | ||
| However, We need to get back to warfighting in our military, not what we're doing now, not pronoun training and all this other stuff. | ||
| That money could have gone to focusing on warfighting for us and to care for our veterans. | ||
| We see the lapse in mental health care that our veterans are receiving. | ||
| So that money could have gone to those things, among many other things, but those things especially. | ||
| Indeed. So, we've got about a minute. | ||
| So, tomorrow, 10 a.m. | ||
| Eastern Time, I realize there's a time change here, the two of us will be hosting live, we're going to have a really, I would say murderer's row, but whatever, a more feminine synonym for murderer would be, or at least murdering with a feminine touch. | ||
| Murderess. Murderess is row. | ||
| Murderess row. And Captain Ben and I will be running the show. | ||
| We got Carrie Lake will be joining us, hopefully Laura Trump, a lot of the big headliners for this show. | ||
| And Steve, don't worry, we'll be Skyping in. | ||
| I know sometimes you guys sour when you have to listen to me for so long, but hey, you know, I try my best. | ||
| But Steve will be joining us to talk authoring indictment, all things Ukraine. | ||
| Mo, if you want to take us out, knock yourself out. | ||
| Well, and then you can also tune in to Natalie and I will be doing a breakout session tomorrow. | ||
| So I believe it will be streaming on Turning Point's website. | ||
| You can tune into that as well after. | ||
| We'll see you there. See you tomorrow, 10 a.m. |
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