May 26, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| But again, Yellen has not said we've got to have a deal by, you know, June whatever or, you know, the world ends. | ||
| And I think that has kind of encouraged Republicans to keep pushing this as hard as they can. | ||
| So, Kayla, the assumption is that Wall Street would have a big negative reaction to even just the lead up to this. | ||
| And so far, we haven't yet seen that. | ||
| Are we wrong about that assumption? | ||
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Is Wall Street kind of shrugging this off? | |
| Well, there are different parts of Wall Street that are reacting in their own way to this. | ||
| I think it's safe to say the stock market has not had the negative reaction that I think many have expected. | ||
| But partially, that's because both parties negotiating have said there will not be a default. | ||
| And I think the market has been taking that at face value. | ||
| Now, the cost for the Treasury Department to borrow debt is going up. | ||
| That is essentially the Economic participants saying that the U.S. is becoming a riskier investment, at least for the next few months. | ||
| And if you buy a Treasury bill and you need to get paid back in one or two months, then maybe that's not a likely scenario. | ||
| So that's a tricky position to be in, especially for a country that has long been one of the safest investments in the entire world. | ||
| One of the things that Secretary Yellen is trying to figure out is, you know, lawmakers often draw these household metaphors when they talk about the finances of the country. | ||
| This is like paying, trying to pay your car payment. | ||
| This is more MSNBC psychobabble. | ||
| Okay. There's actually a chart, if we can pull up, I'll get it to when Navarro's on, about the mismanagement of the cash. | ||
| By Janet Yellen. First off, they gotta prove to us it's a crisis. | ||
| We still haven't seen that. The sun is gonna rise in the morning of June 2nd, as I keep saying, and everything's gonna be fine. | ||
| But you can tell by this chart on the cash, they've completely mismanaged the process of managing their cash. | ||
| Look, it's a distressed situation. | ||
| We've said that from day one. | ||
| That's where you guys are head of the creditors committee. | ||
| You only have a creditors committee when you have a credit problem. | ||
| We got a big one. The talks of what's going on is completely unacceptable. | ||
| Up on Getter, I've got Chip Roy's letter, which is magnificent. | ||
| I think he's got 30 people have signed it. | ||
| Of all the stuff that's terrible, and there's much stuff that's terrible they're trying to do, the worst is, once again, the cartel, what they're trying to do is an old Mitch McConnell ploy to essentially kick the can down the road and put this after the election of 2024. | ||
| They would give them a two-year lift. | ||
| My numbers show that's a $3.5 to $4 trillion debt ceiling lift. | ||
| Any Republican that votes for that should be turfed out immediately. | ||
| Let's go. We've got other stuff to go to. | ||
| I'm going to have Navarro on here in a little while, and we're going to go through it. | ||
| But I've got Seb. Seb, I haven't had an opportunity to go through... | ||
| And I think I kind of went mini-viral last night. | ||
| I was doing on the 6 o'clock show where we played the launch live with the promoter, David Sachs, and the Chinese Communist Party asset, Elon Musk. | ||
| It was such a fiasco, I couldn't help myself. | ||
| I cut the mic on and started giving running commentary and it kind of went viral. | ||
| I was just trash talking these guys like some guy at the bar. | ||
| You know, your corner bar yelling at the TV. That's why I was yelling at the TV. Give me your... | ||
| But no, it was so stupid. | ||
| It's so ridiculous. It's just so... | ||
| It tries to be so hip. It's like a bromance, right? | ||
| And then they put this video up with him, and there's a Santas, and it's Elon Musk, and Elon Musk is in half the images. | ||
| I mean, Elon Musk, I guess he's a citizen. | ||
| He's a foreigner, but I guess he's a citizen so he can vote. | ||
| But he can't be elected official. | ||
| He can't be vice president of the United States. | ||
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Yes, sir. Go ahead. Steve. I'm an immigrant too, remember? | |
| And I served with you in the White House, okay? | ||
| I choose this country. | ||
| I wasn't blessed to be born here. | ||
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Hey, hey, hey, I'm not that thrilled about that. | |
| That shows you how good Seb is. | ||
| That's another foreigner. | ||
| That shows you how great he is. | ||
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He's so great, he gets over Ben and I don't like any foreigners. | |
| Stop your ingrained, you know, irredentism and xenophobia. | ||
| Look, Raheem was on my show earlier, and he nailed it last night, and he nailed it on my show. | ||
| Last night, about 30 seconds in, he tweets out this viral tweet saying, He's reading an op-ed. | ||
| And he was! | ||
| Yes. It was literally... | ||
| Look, President Trump made a video not long ago saying DeSantis needs a personality transplant, and we don't have those yet. | ||
| I mean, it was the funniest video ever. | ||
| That's his problem, apart from being surrounded by swamp creatures. | ||
| He's got no personality. | ||
| I mean, if he didn't have Casey, he'd have nothing. | ||
| And yesterday, he needed to show he has personality. | ||
| But if this whole strategic communications team wasn't fired today, this guy, he doesn't have a snowball's chance. | ||
| Think about this. This is the anti-populist campaign launched yesterday. | ||
| That's another phrase from Rahim. | ||
| Why? What platform does he go to? | ||
| President Trump is famous for rallies, Steve, rallies where tens of thousands of Americans wait days on end. | ||
| It's electric when he walks into the arena. | ||
| What platform did he go on? | ||
| He didn't even go on Facebook, which is the important one that has lots of people of every demographic. | ||
| He went on Twitter. | ||
| What's Twitter? Twitter is the elite's platform. | ||
| It's for the mainstream media and political junkies like you and me. | ||
| It's not about MAGA. It's not America first. | ||
| So, number one, the platform is wrong. | ||
| Number two, what cretins work for him in strategic communications that he goes on a Twitter space? | ||
| Twitter space is audio-only. | ||
| His campaign can't make video clips out of it. | ||
| His surrogates can't post video clips. | ||
| His supporters can't post video clips. | ||
| It was the non-event of the century and probably the worst presidential candidacy announcement ever. | ||
| What does he do? This is getting a bit technical, but you know, you're a podcaster. | ||
| I'm a radio guy. | ||
| He does a crappy Twitter space that melts for 25 minutes, talks like a robot, takes questions from his sycophants like Steve Deese, okay? | ||
| They're just brown-nosing him. | ||
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You know, how amazing are you, Governor DeSantis? | |
| And then afterwards, he does a video, and it sounds like he's in his toilet. | ||
| It sounds like he's using, you know, an iPhone 3 Steve, not ready for prime time. | ||
| Go back, when you talk about anti-populists, talk about even deeper, I think, is who's in back of it. | ||
| You had the meeting with the big donors and the bundlers. | ||
| Instead of going to your hometown and launching, you launch at the Four Seasons in Miami. | ||
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You can't make this up. You're going to run against the populist. | |
| Four seas in Miami, hold it. | ||
| They then go, they have Elon Musk and David Sachs. | ||
| David Sachs, the oligarch who drove the Silicon Valley bank bailout that the audience paid for. | ||
| And then today, all day today, it's another donor fest. | ||
| It's the billionaire's ball, sir. | ||
| Yeah, look, I... For me, the massive failure was his... | ||
| There's an honor deficit here, right? | ||
| There's an honor deficit. | ||
| Number one, for half a year, people are talking about him being the savior of the right. | ||
| He's the only guy who can win. | ||
| Donald Trump doesn't have a chance. | ||
| If rumors were swirling for Six months about how, you know, Gawker is going to replace Bannon. | ||
| Gawker's the only guy. | ||
| Because we're friends, I'd make a public statement the second that... | ||
| Hold it. I started those rumors. | ||
| Continue on, sir. | ||
| Continue on. I would find it a matter of honor to publicly state as soon as I hear those rumors, sorry, Steve's a friend of mine, not happening. | ||
| I wish him well. If he wants to come on my show, yeah, I'll come on his show. | ||
| He said nothing. He didn't have the testicular fortitude to be honorable about those rumors. | ||
| He plays stupid games at press conferences in Japan saying, oh, wouldn't you like to know? | ||
| And then the most despicable thing of all, and this is the honor deficit, When the Alvin Bragg garbage indictment leaks on Saturday, on Monday, what does he do? | ||
| At a press conference, he's asked, and he says what? | ||
| Twice, not once, twice. | ||
| Like some girl in a clique at high school, he says, I don't know about hush money for porn stars. | ||
| So he has to get the knife in, okay, against the man who made him governor. | ||
| And then at the end of that press conference, he says what, Steve? | ||
| He says... I'm not getting involved in this. | ||
| I'm concentrating in Florida. | ||
| This has nothing to do with me. | ||
| Hey, Ron! President Trump lives in Florida. | ||
| Get a map. Mar-a-Lago is in Florida. | ||
| He's a citizen of the state of which you are the governor. | ||
| And by the way, in case you forgot because you like to parade around the old photographs of you and your navy whites, you were a jag, which means you are a military prosecutor. | ||
| You don't have an opinion. | ||
| Either as a former military prosecutor or the governor of the state where the president lives in about a political indictment. | ||
| Sorry, sorry, sorry. | ||
| You've ruled yourself out. | ||
| And then the flip-flop on Ukraine, on and on and on. | ||
| You were actually, as I still am, as his governorship, and I like the way he's going to Disney, but you were at one time a pretty big fan of how he was doing as governor of Florida. | ||
| What has made you so flippant, the way he's comported himself in this run of the presidency? | ||
| Misrepresentation. Misrepresenting himself, right? | ||
| Also on COVID. He didn't keep Florida open. | ||
| Let's be honest. Go back in time and actually look at what he did in Florida. | ||
| He did not keep Florida open at the beginning. | ||
| Now, my friends who live in Florida, some of whom are now his surrogates, they love him. | ||
| And that's fine. And people are flooding to Florida. | ||
| But this is about being the most powerful person in the world. | ||
| Look, we have different attitudes, conclusions with regards to Ukraine, and I love debating you on that. | ||
| But this guy did a 180 flip, Steve. | ||
| That's because I'm right and you're wrong. | ||
| Yeah, we know the modesty of the bad and brain. | ||
| We're used to that. This guy did a 180 flip. | ||
| In 72 hours? | ||
| Because he gave my answer, essentially, the Tucker and Bannon answer. | ||
| And then your problem with that is that if you believe that, stick to it. | ||
| If you want to be Commander-in-Chief, you've got to own that. | ||
| You've got to understand it. He folded in 24 hours. | ||
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Yes! You've worked in the West Wing. | |
| You've worked in the West Wing. | ||
| You've been in the Oval so many times in those tough situations. | ||
| Is that the kind of guy you can have in the Oval Office making those decisions? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| And you know what's happening right now. | ||
| You've lived in the swamp long enough. | ||
| You know exactly what's been happening to Ron for the last 18 months. | ||
| All the people who get paid millions of dollars even when they lose a campaign are whispering in his ear, Ron, Ron, you're the guy, you're the guy. | ||
| And he's allowing himself... | ||
| To listen to the song of Scylla and Charybdis, and he's being, you know, his ego's making love to him. | ||
| And he's surrendering. | ||
| And it's just, that's not, look, you know President Trump. | ||
| Yeah, okay, he's got an ego, but why did he do what he did in 16? | ||
| And why is he doing what he's doing right now? | ||
| There's only one reason, Steve. | ||
| He loves America. This guy's not doing it because he loves America. | ||
| It's because he wants to be president, and that's a big difference. | ||
| Real quickly, because I know we're going to lose you. | ||
| You're going to be here for the A Block. Do you believe his argument to the donors that he's the best shot to beat Biden? | ||
| Do you believe that analytically, sir? | ||
| No, because remember what you did, right? | ||
| What did you do in the campaign? | ||
| We were 16 points down against Hillary. | ||
| We brought it back. And let's look at the money that we know of. | ||
| We spent $800 million. | ||
| Legally, who knows how much more she got from China and everywhere else. | ||
| Hillary outspent us by almost a factor of 100%. | ||
| It was $1.4 billion she spent on her campaign. | ||
| It's not about the big money donors. | ||
| It's been about since Brexit, Trump... | ||
| Modi, Maloney, it's about one thing. | ||
| It's about authenticity. | ||
| Who's authentic, Steve? | ||
| Very simple question. President Trump or the governor of Florida? | ||
| That's a very simple question. | ||
| It's about authenticity, not money. | ||
| If it were about money, Bloomberg would have a political position today. | ||
| Seb, I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| How do people get to your content? | ||
| Because now more than ever, as this heats up, you've got to put Seb Gorka on your shortlist. | ||
| Just put Seb Gorka or Sebastian Gorka in your search engine, sebgorka.com. | ||
| We're at substack, sebastiangorka.substack.com. | ||
| We're on Rumble. | ||
| We're on iTunes, you name it, Twitter, Facebook, True Social. | ||
| The only place we're not are those fascists at YouTube. | ||
| So plug in Seb Gorka or Sebastian Gorka, and you'll find me. | ||
| And the book is The Wall for America's Soul. | ||
| Seb, you know I love you like a brother. | ||
| I'd just love you more if you stayed in Budapest. | ||
| I'm just kidding, brother. I'm so glad you're here. | ||
| Dude, one day you'll understand immigrants love America more. | ||
| Immigrants love America more. | ||
| Hey, we were immigrants. | ||
| We got kicked out of Ireland. | ||
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How bad do you have to be to get kicked out of Ireland? | |
| What a nice family. | ||
| What a nice group. Kick them out. | ||
| Okay, thank you, Seb. | ||
| Dr. Robert Malone next in the war room. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the C.C.P.! | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bann. | ||
| There's a lot going on in the debt ceiling. | ||
| Navarro's going to be here. Dr. | ||
| Navarro's going to be here in a minute, and we're going to get Dr. | ||
| Navarro. He and I are going to talk about also some of the other issues going on in the economy and capital markets. | ||
| I've got Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| Dr. Malone, I've got to ask you, because there are a lot of people I know And they understand it takes a while to get up to speed, but they just don't think that we are pursuing these investigations in a tough enough manner and these hearings are not making it on issues of, you know, masking, issues of the Wuhan lab, issues of the vaccine, the lockdowns, all of that that would deal with the pandemic. | ||
| Your thoughts, sir? | ||
| It's very simple. No one on the Hill or either of the major candidates, right now the leading candidates, want these issues discussed. | ||
| The hearings are inconsequential, would be the most gentle way I could put it, in a huge disappointment. | ||
| They haven't called Ed Dowd, they haven't called me. | ||
| There's a bunch of people with expertise and knowledge that have not been contacted. | ||
| In contrast to our being invited two Wednesdays ago to testify in the European Parliament by a group of European parliamentarians that included representatives from Romania and Croatia, who of course are very sensitized to the issue of this kind of creeping Marxism that we're all seeing. | ||
| But in terms of the Hill, it's been a huge disappointment. | ||
| I'm cautiously optimistic about what Mr. | ||
| DeSantis is doing in Florida with the grand jury. | ||
| We'll see how that plays out. | ||
| But in terms of Congress, absolutely nobody wants these things brought up, including the judiciary. | ||
| The judiciary right now is another huge disappointment. | ||
| They really want to moot these cases as quickly as possible. | ||
| And if you were, if you were the architect of how we ought to be going about this, what would you be doing? | ||
| What would you recommend to these people right now that these are the types of hearings? | ||
| This is where we ought to be pursuing. | ||
| We got to break. We got to deconstruct the pandemic and get to the bottom of all of it. | ||
| What would be your recommendation? | ||
| So my recommendation that we discussed at length in the European Parliament in Brussels was, is that we really take a more global There are funds being set up for very large funds for supporting these legal cases and the current logic is that we need to go to those nation states that are more open to discovery for these kinds of cases where judiciaries are more supportive and that includes in Eastern Europe and of course Australia has been a huge surprise. | ||
| Some of the most interesting information is coming out of Australia right now because they don't have the layers of indemnification that have been implemented here in the United States. | ||
| You know, for all those that are in the conspiracy theorist land, a strong case can be made that this was well-planned and that the layers of indemnification and congressional bills that were stacked up that have protected the pharmaceutical industry and the US government clearly demonstrate that there were long-term planning here that has enabled the situation. | ||
| It seems that what's happening right now is that there is a growing effort to hold FDA accountable for their past sins, such as aspartame is now coming to force since the World Health Organization has clearly stated that that really should not be supported, and yet the FDA has continued to do so. | ||
| There's a number of these cases. | ||
| It's not just COVID. COVID has revealed, I think, to a lot of us how deeply corrupt our whole HHS infrastructure is. | ||
| It's basically, you know, it's a truism now to say that we have regulatory capture within HHS. I think certainly your audience is well aware of that. | ||
| But in terms of what my advice would be here, Mr. | ||
| McCarthy He's said some big words recently about the debt limit. | ||
| I wish that he had a backbone for asking these questions about what has happened here because it is going to get deployed again. | ||
| There's no question and there's all kinds of rumblings about it. | ||
| And these dark mutterings coming from Microsoft about integrity of the whole IT infrastructure and the WHO for the next pandemic. | ||
| And we have the international health regulations and the new pandemic treaty that is being promoted. | ||
| We're far, far from being out of the woods, but Congress doesn't want to hear it because they Would far rather that these issues went away because their fingerprints are all over it. | ||
| Do you think the European Parliament, and I'm going to get to the WHO in a second, but do you think the European Parliament is going to be a venue where people are going to be able to really break down? | ||
| If you and your colleagues feel you can actually make the case that this was a pandemic, which some people call it, that you'll be able to do it there? | ||
| The clip of David Martin's presentation from the start of that testimony two Wednesdays ago has gone viral. | ||
| It is stunning. And I recommend anybody that really wants to dive into the history of this, take a look at that clip. | ||
| But do we think that there's going to be progress within the EP formally? | ||
| No, this was a rump attempt by a very small number of members of parliament. | ||
| That we're able to force things open after months of planning. | ||
| I mean, I can't tell you how much political hassle went into getting this thing approved. | ||
| We had to do backflips and send our passports and get vetted and everything else. | ||
| But we got it done. | ||
| And it had more streaming than anything that has been broadcast out of the EP previously. | ||
| So that was a big win. | ||
| But it's really going to have to move. | ||
| In a way, it's kind of analogous to our federal system with the states being perhaps even more autonomous in that you can prosecute a lot of things within individual member states that have more open judiciaries. | ||
| And then once you make progress there, move it up. | ||
| Likewise, Switzerland is having some interesting legal cases. | ||
| And as I mentioned, Australia has just been a surprise. | ||
| I guess they had a bit of electoral turnover. | ||
| And suddenly the courts are more open. | ||
| One of the big eye-openers for me, and I think a lot of people that had gone on naively thinking that laws were lies and the judiciary was there to enforce them, is that we have to come to grips with the fact that the judiciary won't act unless the populace is sufficiently activated. | ||
| The judiciary will find every possible way it can to avoid addressing complex issues like this. | ||
| Unless they see that the people are with them. | ||
| And that is what's happened here in the United States and to a significant extent in Great Britain and absolutely Canada, is that the use of these various psychological techniques, propaganda, control of the press, etc., has put the majority of the electorate in the United States and these other Five Eyes nations asleep. | ||
| It's a miracle that the Australians, I guess it was so heavy handed there that a bunch of them are properly pissed off. | ||
| But here in America, it seems that the vast majority of the population, as well as Congress, And the judiciary would just like to see this go away. | ||
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So I think that our only legal... | |
| Hang on about the being asleep in the psychological efforts here. | ||
| Is that why Geneva in the UN and the World Health Organization or I should say World Economic Forum is using WHO and WHA to go next level on this on the pandemic? | ||
| Accord in the pandemic treaty because they feel that you can look and see that it has not lit the fire under the people's representatives to really do a hard-nosed investigation here and then to send a DOJ criminal referrals. | ||
| Yeah, and the argument was that the reason why the international health regulations that were promoted by Mr. | ||
| Biden and developed by RHHS and then promoted worldwide, so they really, one of the things that Europe doesn't recognize is this is a US agenda. | ||
| But there was a widespread belief the reason why they got derailed the last round was because of sovereignty complaints from Africa and Bolesnero. | ||
| And the counter-narrative to that that's coming to fore is that really what was going on in Africa is they wanted more of the goodies, and they're getting them. | ||
| So there's a new manufacturing plant that Moderna is putting up for mRNA vaccines in Africa, and they're spreading the juicy stuff, as is so effective in smaller nation states and in the United States. | ||
| So I'm not so optimistic that the argument that these things are infringing on both national and individual sovereignty is going to prevail in this next round. | ||
| They're doing all kinds of things of kind of soft-pedaling the language a little bit compared to the last round that was pretty overt in your face. | ||
| You know, you will do this kind of stuff. | ||
| But what they're not saying is we won't force you to do this. | ||
| They're saying, well, we don't intend to take away your sovereignty. | ||
| I think most of us and certainly most of your audience are probably on the side of the line now that says that we're tired of good intentions and this kind of happy talk. | ||
| We want to see clear and explicit statements that, no, you are not going to do that. | ||
| And they don't want to make that. | ||
| They think that they can slip this stuff through quietly because everybody wants to move on. | ||
| They don't want to think about COVID anymore. | ||
| They don't want to think about these crises. | ||
| Dr. Malone, I know you've got to go. | ||
| I'm going to have you back on about your sub stack. | ||
| How do people get to your sub stack? | ||
| You've got an amazing piece up there about ECHO. What is it? | ||
| Money laundering or greenwashing? | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Yeah, these new eco-warriors. | ||
| Yeah. A Conduit for Eco Money Laundering and Crime is the title of that one that you're referring to, which documents That we're having more of these grass astroturf organizations pop up where people, you know, high net worth people from Hollywood can wash their money and then pay students and others to engage in protest activities like gluing themselves to art. | ||
| Hang on one second. We're going to bring you back about how people get to the substance. | ||
| Short break. Dr. | ||
| them on here in the bar next. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. | |
| Babb. | ||
| I feel like we got Butch and Sundance. | ||
| We've got Navarro and Dr. | ||
| Malone. Dr. Malone, how do people get to your Substack? | ||
| We'll have you back on. I want to take time and break down this, what, echo greenwashing of this, of Hollywood elites' money through these organizations. | ||
| Sure. It's an incredibly perceptive piece. | ||
| All you've got to do is whistle. By the way, I want to be Sundance. | ||
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You can find our Substack at www.substack.com. | |
| And thanks. And by the way, if I can say, you have over, when I read it, you have over 300,000 followers on that? | ||
| I mean, that's impressive because you write very serious material. | ||
| There's no hot takes. We daily, because of amplification on places like Getter, even though Twitter censors us, we typically hit between half a million and a million views per day, which I think is in the CNN page. | ||
| Well, we follow you on Getter very closely. | ||
| Dr. Robert Malone. | ||
| Thank you to the whole posse. | ||
| I love you. You come and give me hugs every time I tour, and it's an honor to be here to serve you. | ||
| Dr. Robert Malone, thank you. | ||
| We'll get everybody to go to your substack and check out the piece. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on to break it down. | ||
| Navarro, I talked to Dr. | ||
| I've got a lot to go there, but one thing I had him on for is that the lack of intensity... | ||
| On the investigation side, on everything with the pandemic, and here we've got this WHO thing rolling in on us, the WHA. We have it. | ||
| There's so much to investigate. | ||
| You've got to take the pandemic and break it down in every element, from Wuhan lab to their bioweapons program, to the masking, to everything you fought in the White House, right? | ||
| To the school shutdowns, to the lockdowns of business, to the vax, all of it. | ||
| I mean, it's a massive task. | ||
| But it seems like nobody in a former... | ||
| And I realize, you know, MTG's doing a good job. | ||
| They got that subcommittee. But you almost need, like, a special committee to raise this up and to get down to it. | ||
| Do you think Big Pharma and the medical industry and their lobbyists are shutting that down? | ||
| Steve, yeah. | ||
| But the problem is, I think, intrinsic to Congress. | ||
| These guys run two-year terms. | ||
| They literally spend over half of their time Raising money. | ||
| They walk across the street to the RNC headquarters and dial for dollars and this, that, and the other thing. | ||
| And none of them have the time or inclination to really dig deep into the issues. | ||
| I'm looking at Chip Roy's letter, right, which people are making a big deal out on the debt ceiling. | ||
| And there's nothing in there. | ||
| About the central reason why they need to reduce the debt in terms of demand-pull inflation and inflation-fighting and the stagflation problems we're having. | ||
| And it's going to be a bigger catastrophe if we don't do what we need to do. | ||
| So, Mike Gallagher, I love that guy. | ||
| I rode with him on a plane up to Wisconsin when This is one of my great achievements in the Trump administration. | ||
| I was able to help save the Marinette shipyard up in Wisconsin. | ||
| And Mike's, you know, talking the tough on China game, this and the other thing. | ||
| It's like Microsoft comes out with a report just a couple of days ago about how this latest Chinese Communist state-sponsored terrorist hacker It's hacking all sorts of infrastructure and businesses out in Guam. | ||
| It's getting ready to kind of screw us if they invade Taiwan. | ||
| It's like, what the hell are we still trading with Communist China for? | ||
| What are you guys waiting for? | ||
| I mean, it's just all talk and a walk. | ||
| Whether it's big pharma pushing on them or the dark money, the Koch network pushing It's just, I mean, it's like we need to get, put Natalie Winters in charge of the China stuff and get some of these other folks that we have in the war room on AI and stuff. | ||
| The border, like, it's like, come on, dude. | ||
| It's one of the reasons we got her back up here to D.C. just for that, because some of these investigations, you need somebody that's done it independently and hasn't. | ||
| You need a driver. You need a driver. | ||
| How much would things have been differently now in studying things? | ||
| Because you put... | ||
| You tried to get to President Trump a commission in, I think, in November of 2020. | ||
| President's Commission. Would have won him in the election. | ||
| I'll say that flat out. | ||
| Would have won him in the election. | ||
| Give me that again. | ||
| The Presidential Commission on Wuhan? | ||
| The Presidential Commission to hold China accountable, to get to the origins of the virus, send them a bill for reparations for the trillions... | ||
| that they owe us and trace all of that down would have shifted the blame from the shoulders of Donald Trump that everybody was heaping it on to the place it should have been The friggin' Chinese Communist Party, and by the way, Tony Fauci, because that would have outed him too. | ||
| And this thing was a thing of beauty, Steve. | ||
| I wrote this thing so that the interim report would come out on October 1st, which would have laid it all out. | ||
| It was nonpartisan. | ||
| All you got to do is look at the data, Steve, and it would have showed that that friggin' thing was from Wuhan, that it was a bioweapon, that Fauci was behind it. | ||
| And that Trump was being lied to by everyone in the healthcare bureaucracy that Malone was talking about. | ||
| I love Brother Malone. | ||
| I mean, it's action, action, action. | ||
| The cannon of Bannon. It's like, I'm not feeling it in this Congress. | ||
| And every single thing they're supposed to be doing, they're doing kind of half-assed. | ||
| I'll just say it outright. | ||
| It's like, whether it's the weaponization of the FBI or the DOJ, whether it's Communist China, which we should be taking a hard line, whether it's getting to the bottom of Fauci, whether that's taking on the social media oligarchs. | ||
| I mean, we got like... Think about this, Steve. | ||
| We got... Twitter now running DeSantis' campaign. | ||
| And we got Facebook and Google running the Biden campaign. | ||
| And if you think we're going to get truth out of any of that crap, you're out of your frigging mind, Steve. | ||
| I'm just, you know, the mad is... | ||
| That's why we're here, brother. | ||
| Because the only place we get truth to power is on the war room, as far as I can see. | ||
| And Real America's Voice, One America's News Network, Gateway Pundit, Revolver News, and it's like guys down at the border from this network. | ||
| I mean, it's just like, come on, guys. | ||
| Since you went there, let's talk about the DeSantis, and particularly you say that Twitter's running it. | ||
| And you've got a piece, we're going to get to your piece in the Washington Times in a second, but I want to go to, and help me out here. | ||
| You've got to help me out here. Elizabeth, I think it's Elizabeth Farah, who was in the White House and turned on Trump. | ||
| Alicia Farah. | ||
| Alicia Farah. | ||
| I knew her well. She was the strategist, so-called. | ||
| Go ahead. And she's kind of flipped on Trump. | ||
| But they had her on CNN on a panel the other day. | ||
| And they're talking about, you know, the Santas. | ||
| And it's called all that kind of mindless, happy talk. | ||
| That you see on these political panels on MSNBC and CNN and even Fox. | ||
| It's all meaningless, you know, word salads. | ||
| And she came up and she says, you know, I think you guys are talking about a Republican Party that doesn't really exist. | ||
| She says the Republican Party is a populist nationalist party that Donald Trump helped make that. | ||
| And that's what it is today. | ||
| And a lot of these candidates you're talking about don't resonate because they're talking in a different language and different policies. | ||
| Ron DeSantis, and help me out here. | ||
| Trying to run in a populist nationalist party and trying to be, I'm Trump without the baggage. | ||
| How do you not go back to your hometown or not go to one of these more traditional launches? | ||
| You go to the Four Seasons in Miami, you have an entire day, brother, with the billionaires, and then they're working phones. | ||
| Hold it. You go and then you have David Sachs The guy who drove the bailout, he really was one of the guys that drove all the VCs taking their money out. | ||
| The collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and then the bailout of Silicon Valley Bank. | ||
| He's the moderator. You've got Elon Musk, who's a transhumanist, globalist, world economic forum, vote for Biden guy. | ||
| And the thing's all messed up. | ||
| And then today, the whole day is meetings with the billionaires and presentations with the billionaires. | ||
| What planet are they on? | ||
| What planet are they on? | ||
| Is there any logic there you can see, sir? | ||
| Well, if you look at it from the donors' point of view, they seek control, so they're going to give as much money as possible for the useful idea. | ||
| One of the things I point out in the Washington Times is that they'd be just as happy if Biden won for many of them. | ||
| I mean, the Steve Schwarzman and Finks of this world So DeSantis is merely the tool to attack. | ||
| Now, Elissa Farah, Kayleigh McEnany, Mick Mulvaney, these are all people that never should have been in the Trump administration to begin with. | ||
| And DeSantis, for me, he's a dime a dozen congressman who's an ideologue, who's not a deep thinker, who doesn't understand anything about the issues that you and I care about and MAGA cares about. | ||
| And what he's doing now is he's getting schooled again as I point out in the Washington Times by a disgruntled ex-Trump staffer. | ||
| He's like the tutor and he's putting DeSantis in a little corner and explaining him kind of the economics of the border and this that and the other thing and gonna be crafting the message and nobody's gonna buy it Steve. | ||
| You can tell a politician by the company they keep and the money they take and by the way DeSantis is now backed by the second most hated person in MAGA. Who is that? | ||
| That's Rupert Murdoch. | ||
| When Murdoch comes out, Steve, and says, I'm devoting Fox News and the New York Post to getting DeSantis elected, what does that say about the integrity of so-called journalism? | ||
| Number one... | ||
| And what does that tell you about the current state of Fox News? | ||
| I've urged the boss repeatedly in that piece and elsewhere. | ||
| He's got to go full metal jacket on Fox News right now. | ||
| He can't be screwing around with those people. | ||
| He's got to take them down. | ||
| He's got to lift up. | ||
| The other conservative media, he's got to take that down. | ||
| It's like Hannity, you know, Sean's a great guy, but no, he's on that team now. | ||
| Laura Ingram, I mean, she left the reservation months ago. | ||
| It's like there's nobody there left with any cojones. | ||
| That's going to stand up. | ||
| And this is where we are. | ||
| DeSantis thinks he's going to get away with this crap. | ||
| MAGA, I mean, you had Barris on. | ||
| Remember when you had Barris on? | ||
| Barris is showing you the crosstabs. | ||
| It's like the MAGA crosstab is like, nah, we don't Nobody's going for DeSantis. | ||
| MAGA understands this stuff. | ||
| Freedom Caucus has some good guys in it, okay? | ||
| But for the most part, the Mulvaney wing of that were like nutjob ideologues who opposed Buy American, Hire American in tariffs. | ||
| When I was in the White House with that friggin' little Let me just say that on the air. | ||
| That guy sold his soul out. | ||
| He's Judas for just silver to CBS. He went there and said, hey, hire me for six or seven figures and I'll bash Trump. | ||
| And he's doing his job, Steve. | ||
| But that's not loyalty to Trump. | ||
| That's not loyalty to the country, sir. | ||
| DeSantis was not as much House Freedom Caucus as he was really associated. | ||
| Wasn't he associated more with Paul Ryan? | ||
| I mean, we had these ads up. | ||
| That too! That too! | ||
| But he was an original member of the Freedom Caucus, to be clear. | ||
| And like I said, there's good guys in the Freedom Caucus. | ||
| Yeah. But when I went to the Freedom Caucus, Steve, this is important. | ||
| When the boss sent me there to get support for the Reciprocal Trade Act, Meadows, whatever, they didn't want any part of it. | ||
| Okay? We're free traders. | ||
| Okay? That's DeSantis. | ||
| And that scares the hell out of me. | ||
| This is not a guy, particularly with Elon Musk as his backer who's going to stand up. | ||
| To the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| He doesn't know how to do it, but he also isn't going to step on the toes of all the people making money off the backs of MAGA over there with Musk at the very top of that circle. | ||
| I tell you what, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to bring Dr. Navarro back. | ||
| We're going to talk about the debt ceiling, some more about the DeSantis launch. | ||
| Also, you brought the Freedom Caucus along because the Freedom Caucus now is much more populist economic nationalists, much more. | ||
| They're the ones fighting this, but at the beginning, it was very much Republican orthodoxy. | ||
| Kind of neoliberal, neocon. | ||
| That's all changed. But DeSantis was right there with Paul Ryan every step of the way. | ||
| That's all got to be broken down and delved into. | ||
| Short commercial break. Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro is with us in the war room. | ||
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| Go through, Peter, while I've got you, and I'm going to hold you through 6 o'clock. | ||
| I know you want to go to happy hour, but I'm going to hold you to get some work done here. | ||
| Walk me through the rest of the Washington Times piece on Ron DeSantis. | ||
| Okay, Steve. Let's start with what I love about the president and why I think, and you know this personally, probably why you signed on after you met him. | ||
| You've got a billionaire, a gregarious billionaire, with this wonderful commoner's touch, who the people love. | ||
| You juxtapose that against Ron DeSantis, and this is like a dark Shakespearean tragedy. | ||
| And this guy is like, he's like Nixon light. | ||
| He's like a paranoid introvert who has walled himself off from the public. | ||
| He doesn't know how to socially interact. | ||
| And he has a very limited number of advisors. | ||
| And the gatekeeper is the Shakespearean shrewish wife who looks great on TV, but has this really dark side to him. | ||
| I think a lot of the problems that DeSantis is having is that he's got nobody he can trust or talk to that has any sense. | ||
| So that's like a big difference there. | ||
| Now, what is DeSantis going to try to sell us on? | ||
| First of all, I mean, look, we need Barriss on for this one. | ||
| It's like the first thing he did was this Trump can't win. | ||
| That's going to be his mantra. | ||
| That's what I got from the person who shall not be named who We'll never be on this show again who's working for the dude now. | ||
| Trump can't win. So what they do, they jury-rigged a bunch of polls that show that DeSantis is actually winning the battleground states that Trump can't win. | ||
| That's like total kind of nonsense. | ||
| You're going to do that. Trump can't win. | ||
| And then it's like Trump, this is like DeSantis is MAGA without Trump. | ||
| And we already know that if you're backed by Rupert Murdoch, Silicon Valley, And Wall Street and the multinational big farmer that's going to ship everything offshore, that dog won't hunt. | ||
| So what has DeSantis got at the end of the day? | ||
| He's got nothing. | ||
| And it's very curious, Steve, how many times in your experience, your vast experience, people might underrate you, but you pulled off the greatest election in the history. | ||
| How many times have you ever seen a candidate enter a race with his poll numbers falling? | ||
| And that's where we're at now with wishy-washy Ron DeSantis to take a principal stand on Ukraine and disappear in 24 hours, sir. | ||
| You think that falling numbers, because it's quite unusual to do that, you're correct. | ||
| Do you think it's because the more people see him, they just realize, hey, you're a good governor, continue to prove yourself as governor, and maybe we'll look in four years and take another look, but you're not ready now? | ||
| Why are these numbers dropping so precipitously? | ||
| I don't buy the idea that his public stance is unattractive. | ||
| I mean, he knows how to... | ||
| He's a good-looking dude with a very attractive wife. | ||
| I think he can pull that look off. | ||
| But everything else goes south after that. | ||
| And the big thing, Steve, is he immediately got in bed with all the people who were selling Middle America and MAGA out. | ||
| And people understand that. | ||
| And I don't know what the hell... | ||
| I mean, Rupert Murdoch isn't thinking he's, what, 96 years old? | ||
| It's not like he's got an ego the size of the Empire State Building. | ||
| He's like, he's thinking, well, if I come in and support Brian DeSantis, it's like you're going to support him, keep your mouth shut, and just order your minions, Suzanne Scott and Bret Baier and all those... | ||
| Punks over at Fox News to support him, but you don't come out and say Murdoch's behind him because that's like poison. | ||
| So that didn't help. | ||
| And you did an excellent job of pointing out, you know, we've been racking on Steve Schwartzman and Larry Fink and that Blackstone and Wall Street money that are getting up all the banks. | ||
| So... I think it's a combination of that, the wishy-washy in Ukraine, and then the stuff that's coming out about his personality. | ||
| You can't be a retail politician and win with that kind of paranoid introversion. | ||
| Who wants that as a president? | ||
| But the main thing is that this has always been donor and consultant driven. | ||
| They're the ones that kind of went to him. | ||
| And he was searching it out. | ||
| But you've got the worst. | ||
| You've got Schwartzman. You've got Ken Griffin. | ||
| You've got the people that are the most in bed with the CCP. And have worked against American manufacturers. | ||
| I'll tell you what, Peter, just hang on for one second. | ||
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| They picked the guy who they know can't win in the general because they'd rather have the Democrats in. | ||
| There you go. Go ahead. PeterNavarro.substat.com. | ||
| Please get that in, brother. | ||
| PeterNavarro.substat.com. | ||
| Malone is killing it on that. | ||
| I really, I mean, every dollar that you send to me there goes to my legal defense fund. | ||
| They are trying to put me in prison last time I looked. | ||
| PeterNavarro.substat.com. | ||
| Thank you, War Room. I need you now. | ||
| Okay, hang on, Peter. | ||
| I gotta get your thinking about the debt ceiling. | ||
| We're gonna spend a lot of time on that. | ||
| There's a lot going on behind the scenes in the Imperial City, although Congress has been dismissed. | ||
| They're heading to the airport. | ||
| They're on the planes. They're out of here. | ||
| I think maybe leadership wants to cut this deal under the cover of darkness. | ||
| I think. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| We're going to break it all down. | ||
| I'm also going to play some of the highlights of Governor DeSantis' launch, or I guess failure to launch, on Twitter last night with my own commentary at the time and then maybe some words of wisdom now. | ||
| Short commercial break. Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro in the next hour at the top of it. | ||
| Give us a couple of minutes. | ||
| Transition over. We'll be right back in the world. |
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