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May 20, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2746: The Rise Of The New Media; Multiple Adverse Reactions From Injections
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steve bannon
Kate, we're in the war room.
It's our Friday afternoon show.
We are showing you live from Phoenix, Arizona, the closing arguments in the Kerry Lake case.
We're going back to the courtroom.
unidentified
Pass rates.
Maricopa knows that the sham clicking through the ballot images just to get through The 1.3 million ballots, including the 299 or 98 that arrived on November 9th and were processed in two and a half days, is not actual signature verification.
That's no review in accordance with the law.
And again, if you're not complying with the law, the purpose of the law is to be a gatekeeper.
Simply flashing a screen with a signature in front and not making even a minimum comparison to determine whether it's inconsistent is not signature verification.
Mr. Spikine testified that there's simply not possible to do, particularly in the context of a mass comparison verification system such as that in Maricopa County in the 2022 general election.
We're not arguing and claiming that signature verification workers are doing a poor job.
What Mr.
Spikin testified to is there is no comparison going on.
The defendants did not offer any expert in rebuttal to Mr.
Spikin's testimony. They could have.
We've already heard testimony that they brought in a woman by the name of Kathleen Nicolaitis to train Level 1 and Level 2 workers.
She was certainly available.
As Mr. Spikine testified, it's on her website that she helps train Maricopa workers.
This issue was known.
They did not bring in any recognized expert Including one that they themselves have employed to put on the facade that they're actually doing signature review to say, no, no, Mr.
Spikin's wrong, can do a signature comparison and verify that signature in compliance with 16550.
Nor did the defendants Welcome.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 19 May, the year of our Lord, 2023.
We're going to go back to that when we have something more scintillating than a white screen.
That's the closing arguments now.
The Cary Lake trial three days are wrapping up, and they still haven't...
I think the evidence on the signature verification is pretty compelling.
By the way, we've got a lot going on.
Rahim Kassam is going to join us momentarily.
We've got Boris Epstein with some latest polling.
A little later, we're going to get to Naomi Wolf.
We're going to go back to the courtroom.
When they actually get back into the closing arguments, when you see something more than just the white screen.
Let me go now. I tell you what, I want to play this about the debt ceiling.
We've got Speaker McCarthy.
A lot's been going on this afternoon with this entire walk away by the Republicans in the non-negotiations going on.
If I'm going to play the cold open, I'll come back.
unidentified
Well, we've got to get movement by the White House, and we don't have to be moving at it.
steve bannon
So, yeah, we've got to pause.
unidentified
The tone seemed really optimistic yesterday, is it?
The easy stuff's done and the hard stuff's left?
Yesterday, I really felt we were at the location where I could see the path.
The White House is just, look, we can't be spending more money next year.
steve bannon
We have to spend less than we spent the year before.
It's pretty easy. Okay, right there, you had Graves, Congressman Graves on the Republican side.
You've got, was it Steve Verschetti and the OMB director with the White House.
But as we said, the proposal we put forward is the deal.
We're not backing off that deal.
They want to change work requirements.
They want to push off.
And there's no support for that.
We have 40 or 50 votes, maybe more.
So they're in a bad spot.
So they walked away today.
This is probably going to get pretty intense over the weekend.
Janet Yellen's calling corporate CEOs.
All of it. I also have Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
rock the house down in Miami today at the crypto conference.
We're going to play a little bit of that. And it just wasn't a speech about crypto.
This was a major speech in his presidential campaign.
As they start to pick up momentum.
Let me go to, I've got Rahim Kassam.
Rahim, you've got some big news about what National Pulse is going to be doing.
Can you get us up to speed on this?
raheem kassam
Yeah, that's right, Steve.
You know, we have been in the lab, my business partner, my colleague Harlan Hill and I, for the last A year, really, fundamentally trying to change the way people consume the news.
We have talked to so many people.
We've done so much market research.
And we've come to this conclusion that the old way of doing even digital media 600, 700 words, a lot of puff in these stories, a lot of elongated quotes.
We've decided enough, effectively, and we've completely renovated the national pulse.
And I'm delighted to announce here on The War Room, That renovation is now done and will launch this coming Monday.
Also, before I get into the specifics of what I mean by all of that, I'm also delighted to say that we have a very special way of pre-ordering this new experience, this new media experience.
People will remember we had an old subscriber model.
We've made it even cheaper and we've packed it full of exclusives, Analysis, behind the scenes, podcasts, documentaries.
It really is kind of like the MAGA version of Daily Wire and what those guys have been doing over there, but I think even better.
So the War Room audience can go to the nationalpulse.com forward slash War Room right now, and they will get something very special for that pre-order.
steve bannon
Let's go back to this again.
Part of it is going to be free, part of it is going to be a paywall.
Did you finally come across this website called Axios?
Is that what inspired you? This sounds like more succinct, more tight, or tighter I guess, not more tight, tighter.
Part of the new site is going to be like Axios and maybe you're putting up stuff quicker volumes in Axios.
Am I directionally off in that?
raheem kassam
Yeah, look, I like to think about it kind of as the politics of like the old school Breitbart and the team that ran the old school Breitbart, I think you might know them, coupled with the kind of brevity and speed of what a lot of the corporate left media has done with their big corporate backing for so long.
I don't know about you, Steve.
I'm tired of going to right-wing media sites And they're ugly and it's full of ugly ads and it's hard to send it to somebody because you just think it doesn't really look like what I want it to look like and feel like and has that kind of resonance and that impact.
We, I believe, have designed something that is going to make you extremely proud.
And yes, let me answer to that paywall thing.
You know, I like the news to be free.
I think the news should be free.
I don't like the paywall model.
We've never subscribed to it.
But what we've done here is we've combined totally free news on thenationalpulse.com, we actually call the whole stream The Pulse, with these kind of extras to let people know that, hey, if you like our work and you support us and you want to be part of this club,
you get special invites to events, You get a quarterly print magazine, something you can put on your coffee table and show your friends and family, and something deeper and stronger than just the kind of day-to-day TikTok of the news, then you sign up to The National Pulse, you become a member, you support us.
Because let me tell you this, unlike Axios, we're not getting the Facebook checks, right?
We're not going to be getting the Google checks.
We're going to be hoping that enough people go to the NationalPulse.com, and like I say, forward slash war room for this audience as a limited edition pre-order and supporting real news.
You know, we call ourselves radically independent and we mean it.
steve bannon
Yeah, also the big pharma, all the big pharma support and all the, I mean, Axios is the corporatist tip sheet.
Real quickly, give that again.
Rahim's going to join us again tomorrow and then when they launch, we'll hopefully be doing it live here in the war room.
So a lot to go on here.
And by the way, I know you're going to pack this thing with content.
Rahim, where do people go again to make sure they can check all this out and get the explanation of what it is and if they're so inclined to go ahead and sign up?
raheem kassam
Where do they go? See, I love people who go to the War Room in the morning, who go to Citizen Free Press in the morning, and I want to be part of the third part of that stall, which is TheNationalPulse.com and The Pulse.
You know, you guys do the broadcast, Kane does the aggregation, and we're going to be doing this like intelligent curation.
So if you go to TheNationalPulse.com forward slash War Room now, you get in there before anyone else, you get all the perks before everybody else, And you get to say, hey, I'm a founding member of this thing that is fundamentally going to change the way the news is consumed on the political right.
I really believe it. We have assembled an amazing team.
We're going to be growing that team even more over the summer.
And I think you and I are going to have some more announcements to make come Monday.
steve bannon
Yeah, one last thing.
I'm going to try to track you down.
I know you guys are humping to get it ready for the Monday launch.
People should know before these launches go on, the last 72 hours is pure panic.
It's like staging a play, right?
Everybody's in panic mode. But I wanted to address this tomorrow.
Did you get a big scalp in the UK off the Guardian?
Did our favorite person, Ked Wilder, is there a scalp in the UK we can talk about tomorrow?
Did a British court really charge her, fine her 1.2 million pounds?
Is this true? Is it fake news or is it true?
raheem kassam
National Pulse readers know it's £1.2 million, by the way, to her arch-nemesis, Aaron Banks, who she accused of being a Russian stooge for years and years, wrote these articles in The Guardian.
I wrote this piece back in, I think, 2020, that said she must be held financially accountable for those lies.
And yesterday, a judge said, you know what?
Raheem's right. £1.2 million, please.
We'll talk about it more tomorrow.
In the meantime, the audience gets over to the nationalpulse.com forward slash war room.
steve bannon
This is a huge, huge story.
It has real meaning.
And Aaron Banks and Rahim, great job.
One more time, where do people go, Rahim?
raheem kassam
Yeah, I've got it up here.
TheNationalPulse.com forward slash War Room.
You'll find a custom page just for the War Room audience.
And, you know, we're watching every single person that comes in.
We're going to take care of you because, like you said, these 72 hours, Steve, a make or break.
We've worked really hard and we now need people to come in back of us.
TheNationalPulse.com forward slash War Room.
steve bannon
Okay. See you tomorrow morning, Rahim.
Thanks. Everybody, let's keep that up during the show.
We'll get people piling that.
Good job, Rahim. Big news coming out of England with The Guardian.
That's a big one. We got a lot to go through tomorrow.
It's going to be an intense show.
Also at 6 o'clock tonight, Natalie Winters is going to join me with Ben Harnwell.
Ben Harnwell from Rome, Natalie Winters.
Natalie's got an incredible new investigative report about this kind of information monitoring suppression coming out of the Pentagon by your tax dollars, how it relates to Ukraine.
She's done so much work on the CCP, she's now starting to look at the Ukraine, the corruption there, and the money laundering there.
And of course, Ben Harnwell's got a whole analysis.
As it looks like, we can't make heads and tails out of Bakhmut.
I can't tell if the Russians are being driven back, or if actually the road of life is being cut off.
But the offensive has started, although Zelensky's in Saudi Arabia today, I think en route to the G7. A lot going on.
Also, the debt ceiling.
This is going to be an intense fight over the weekend.
Remember, you're the head of the creditors committee.
You're going to get called every name in the world.
Let's go. I got a couple minutes on this side.
Boris, are you there?
Numbers. Tim Scott announces he's going to make an announcement on Monday.
DeSantis is in.
Tell me about that. You got a minute on this side in polling.
It looks like an implosion of Team DeSantis.
RDS is in a deep dive.
boris epshteyn
No doubt about it, Steve.
Honored to be with you. Honored to be with the posse.
And again, more polling that lines up perfectly with polling from earlier this week.
President Trump at and above 60.
Ron, the Florida governor, is at 15.
See, I'm not used to saying his name.
The Florida governor is about 15.
Today, big data. Big data polling.
President Trump at 60.
Florida governor at 16.
Mike Pence at 5.
Vivek Ramaswamy at 5.
Nikki Haley at 4. Tim Scott shockingly missing from that list.
Vitally, for the general election, President Trump beating Joe Biden by 7 points, 45 to 38.
Joe Biden beating the Florida governor 39 to 35.
And then in the Harvard-Harris poll, not Rasmussen, not Trafalgar, Harvard-Harris, President Trump, 58.
The Florida governor, 16.
In a general matchup, President Trump beating Biden by 7.
President Trump beating Kamala Harris by 11.
The Florida governor tied with both.
The governor of Florida cannot even beat Kamala Harris in polling.
And that tells you all you need to know about just how disastrous his last several months have been and how it is vital right now for the whole Republican Party, for the whole movement, to call us behind President Trump.
steve bannon
Boris, hang on. I want to get your thoughts about this debt ceiling.
You've negotiated a couple of three deals.
Big news today.
The Republicans took your phone calls and said, hold the line.
Reschetti tried to get, you know, oh, we need the worker requirements lifted, all this.
They said, we're out of here.
Big news in the debt ceiling.
Big news in the polling.
Big news, Naomi Wolf's gonna join us next in the war room.
unidentified
Down the CCD!
steve bannon
They have all I- Stephen K. Band It's a Friday, uh, and we got a lot to get to.
Boris, before I let you go, this polling, Grace and Captain Bannon are going to get it up on all our sites.
The polling is unbelievable. I put up some on Getter.
New York Times is reporting that Tim Scott, and Tim Scott's a good man.
By the way, there's a lot of good people that are Keebler elves, right?
But they're Keebler elves.
This thing's over. We're going to play a thing, and Bobby Kennedy gives a barn burner Boris, down in Miami at the crypto conference, and he can't get a debate.
They've already said that's over, no debate.
Trump, and he's tied, there's a poll out, he's a 35-35 with Biden, okay?
All the Keebler-Ls combined, I don't think, break 22, 23 points.
So Trump's up, I don't know, 80-20, 75-25.
And Bossy and RNC have scheduled 10 debates.
What am I missing here?
I'm missing something.
What am I missing? Oh, I got it.
The Democratic Party knows how to run a political party, right?
unidentified
Is that our takeaway there? Steve, I think that's a pretty apt point.
boris epshteyn
Let's put it that way. And the other part of it is that the Democrats are being smart and coalescing around Joe Biden, but only until the point where they realize that Joe Biden is such an albatross And they actually find somebody to run who they can't even deny.
But hey, you've got to give it to RFK Jr.
He's by far outperforming the Florida governor because, again, keep in mind, R.F.K. Jr.
is just him versus Joe Biden, right?
The Florida governor has got these other Keebler elves that are giving him some cover.
R.F.K. Jr. has got no cover, just him running against Joe Biden, and he's at 20.
If you look at this folder that was just put up on big data, Denver just put it up, great work.
President Trump at 60, and look at the rest.
It used to be, Steve, that it was President Trump, then Miles Down was the Florida governor, then Miles Down was the rest of the pack.
Now there's no middle ground.
It's President Trump and then you've got to look way, way, way, way, way, way down and it's the past.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Well, hold on, hold on.
What he's proven in four months, Governor, and I say, I like Governor Sands as a governor, but you know, you got to prove yourself here.
What he's done in four months, he's now become king of the Keebler elves.
He's the head elf. It's the elves, it's Asa Hodge, Asa Hodge, you got four guys in there, zero point, ought point, ought.
Asa Hutchinson, Ought Point Ought.
You've got Chris Christie, Ought Point Ought, right?
If they threw in Sununu, Ought Point Ought.
Tim Scott's a good man.
Tim Scott's a good man.
There's some good people in there.
But these guys, as far as presidential, as far as a presidential candidate, they can't fog America real quickly.
You've negotiated a couple of three deals in your life.
President Trump's negotiated thousands of deals in his life.
The McCarthy hat tip.
The posse said, hold the line, walk away.
Reschetti, who's a deal guy, tried to get cute in there, you know, got to take out the work requirements, you know, blah, blah, blah.
Hey, the deal's the deal.
We passed the deal. We don't love this deal, but it's, you know, we accepted it and McCarthy got it done.
The deal's the deal.
There's no walking back from the deal.
And today they walked away.
boris epshteyn
Your thoughts? The right thing to do.
No doubt about it. President Trump Speaking about it extensively, posting about it on Truth.
You cannot, especially now, when you look at the polling, President Trump dominating Joe Biden, including the Harvard-Harris left of center poll, there's absolutely no reason to be giving even an ounce of leverage to these pathetic Democrats, especially while you've got When I heard it, my jaw dropped. They have a G7 meeting in Japan.
We've got problem after problem after problem after problem.
What are they going to do? They're going to hose Zelensky to talk about just how much money they can give him to keep the war going in Ukraine.
If you are the Republicans, every reason to hold the line is Looking around the country.
unidentified
Look two miles east of the capital.
boris epshteyn
Look to Baltimore. Look to Camden.
We need the money here and we need the money spent right.
steve bannon
They put an 80-year-old man on a plane to fly halfway around the world to have Zelensky come and shake you.
How does Zelensky get invited to the G7? It's either a real thing or not, right?
Oh yeah, you're going to take the place of Russia.
Boris, how do people get your social media?
Now more than ever, they need your morning newsletter and all your social media contacts, including coming in hot on the gram.
boris epshteyn
Of course, you've got to come in hot on the gram at all times.
Steve, thanks so much. Honored to be with you.
Honored to be talking about these numbers, which represent the strength of President Trump and the MAGA movement.
Huge credit to the War Room Posse.
My information on the website is borrscp.com.
Sign up right now, hot on borrscp.com, hot on getter at borrscp, on Twitter at borrscp, hot on Truth Social at Boris, and of course, the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
Stay strong, God bless, and Shabbat Shalom.
steve bannon
Okay, I've got a cold open.
Let's go ahead and play it for Naomi.
I want to pick her brain on this.
robert f kennedy-jr
I want to conclude by saying this.
Almost everyone in this room is aware of the link between Bitcoin and democracy and freedom, and that's Why almost everybody that I meet who is involved in Bitcoin is passionate about it.
They're not passionate because it's an interesting currency.
They're passionate because of the deep representation of a deep need that we have for liberty and democracy and the promise that this innovation has to guarantee those virtues.
And we are now living in this age of turnkey totalitarianism with this emerging technology which can empower totalitarian regimes.
And our job is to try to build and fortify democratic institutions At the same rate as that totalitarian instruments are being expanded in their power, things like AI, which really are going to threaten democracy at its base, we need to not be chipping away at our democratic institutions.
We need to be fortifying the ones that exist and building new ones.
And the biggest, most important one on the horizon is Bitcoin, because it can't be manipulated.
All of you, I know, are here, again, not because you love a currency, but because you love our country, you love democracy, you love freedom.
And in that sense, your support of Bitcoin puts you in the same category as the framers of the Constitution that gave us that Bill of Rights, that created these democratic institutions.
And you are the current manifestation of that impulse.
So thank you all very much for everything that you do.
unidentified
Thank you for being part of this movement.
steve bannon
That's a speech from a guy at Sirius Run about President.
That's why his numbers are up. Let me say something.
Let's leave aside the politics in the Second Amendment and other issues on the life issues.
And those are massive issues.
I'm not trying to take them lightly.
What Bobby Kennedy Jr.
is bringing up is a lot of what MAGA thinks.
Remember, we first met Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
because of the vaccine and because of the pandemic and because of the lockdown.
And he's somebody who's on the total opposite side of the spectrum.
From us politically, we understand that.
But look at what his voice of reason was in that, and it gets about institutional, institutional corruption, institutional collapse.
So we're going to follow it closely today.
I'm just telling you, the guys, the crypto guys were inspired, and it's tough to inspire that crowd.
That's not people that inspire easily, but it was quite a speech, and we're going to try to break it down even more tomorrow.
Naomi Wolf, it's the collapse of our institutions that's caused the constitutional crisis in this country, has it not, ma'am?
naomi wolf
You could say collapse, or you could say Collapse of the ethics and transparent processes of our institution combined with the centralization of many institutions that should not be merged into one gigantic hideous mass like non-profits that are not transparent merging with government processes that refuse to be transparent as we've seen with the mandates and the lockdowns and the vaccine coercion.
And one reason I think like I'm nonpartisan, I can't endorse, but I respect the heck out of this man because he sees, like he comes from a family that has witnessed, you know, the absolute pinnacle, been part of the absolute pinnacle of power.
They understand how power works.
I think there's, you know, kind of legacy memory for him, even though he was not part of that yet.
He understands how power works.
And at the same time, he kind of can see the whole chessboard and he is able to see the interconnected corruptions of many different kinds of institutions.
And I think all of us are feeling like when he said, you know, we have to create new institutions that are clean to catch up with the escalating race toward tyranny.
I think on a gut level, people across the country of every political persuasion understand that that's exactly the race we're in.
steve bannon
I'm reading this book or just finished this book by James Risen at the New York Times.
I think he's at Intercept now.
No fan of President Trump's, but he just wrote the definitive book on the church committee, which is amazing because they're the ones who really got into it about the Kennedy assassinations and the role of the CIA in the Kennedy assassinations.
This book is absolutely stunning.
The church committee, which a lot of people have forgotten, led to the House investigation, and the House investigation said there was a conspiracy, there was more than one shooter.
So, no, I mean, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
has been on this since the beginning, not just the family, but they know about power and they know What the administrative state can do and that rogue element of it, the deep state.
Since Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
has been on Tucker many times saying, you know, the CIA had a role, if not the lead role, in the assassination of his uncle.
And it's one of the reasons, and I'm not a conspiracy theory guy, But it was after Tucker's interview with the RFK, Tucker's interview with Trump, Tucker coming back to the Heritage and saying, hey, I was with you guys years ago, we were wrong, there's something happening in the country that's deeply spiritual, and it's a good versus evil fight, and the Murdoch's pulling him out of that 8 o'clock slot, so there's a lot going on.
The headline here today, Is Naomi Wolf is on Capitol Hill.
Only good things can happen for that.
We're going to get all the details. We'll make a short commercial break.
We're going to return it. By the way, my favorite bedside book.
We keep a copy down here.
I love this thing. I love this.
You know why I love it? It's kind of like Bobby Kennedy sold a million and a half copies of the Fauci book and people couldn't get enough of it, right?
This thing right here is the baby.
It shows you the hard work of the war room posse when you have superstars like Amy Kelly, the folks at Daily Clap under the leadership of Naomi Wolf.
She's in the capital, and we're going to find out what she's been doing.
Short break, back in the warm in a moment.
unidentified
Stephen K Bang.
steve bannon
Just as a note, Rahim just got back in touch.
It's the National Pulse.
Just don't put in National Pulse.
Put in the National Pulse.
Put in the National Pulse and go over it.
Go to thenationalpulse.com forward slash war room.
Go check it out right now to see what Rahim and the guys are putting together over there.
Six o'clock, Natalie Winters is going to join me with Ben Harnel.
We've got a lot to go through. Zelensky is in Saudi Arabia heading to the G7. A lot to break down on today when we walked away from the debt ceiling negotiation where your $100 billion is going to Ukraine.
I'm going to turn it over to you.
We've got about eight, nine minutes here.
Then you're going to go on another show.
I love guests that come in and book another show in the middle of the show.
That's okay. And then she's going to come back.
Natalie, it's Naomi Wolf.
This is what happens when you're a star.
What have you been up to?
naomi wolf
Well, there's nowhere I'd rather be than the war room.
So there we are.
So I can't tell you where I was because it's off the record, but I can tell you what I talked about.
And it's all, once again, the work of the posse, the Pfizer documents and what's in them.
But I do have, I've found over the last couple of days what I think is the smoking gun.
You know, the kind of why behind this whole ugly story I've been telling for a year about this injection.
And what it does to people.
So I'll just update the POSSE that we did have Report 71, which did show almost 3,000 adverse events of an arthritis type or rheumatoid arthritis, joint pain, musculoskeletal pain.
Again, two-thirds of those were women.
We've seen that consistently, as you know, that there's a 3 to 1, 4 to 1, 5 to 1.
8 to 1 women versus men suffering from this injection.
And all of the adverse events of the rheumatoid arthritis type took place within 32 days of the injection.
So that is a pretty powerful cause effect.
So having said that, I was talking to Steve...
steve bannon
For people that had not had this problem before?
Correct. That's not a good clinical trial, right?
naomi wolf
No, indeed. And at events now, when I share this, people say, oh my gosh, I now have arthritis.
I now am in pain.
This happened right after my second shot.
This happened right after my booster.
They hadn't realized because, of course, doctors never say, probably don't even know, a doctor who has our book knows that arthritis, joint pain, rheumatoid type joint pain is the number one side effect with muscle pain being second, of course, COVID being third.
But, you know, leaving that giant pile of suffering and misery aside for a minute, I was speaking to Steve Kirsch at another event, the well-known vaccine critic, especially mRNA vaccine critic.
And I presented my evidence that you all are familiar with about reproductive harms.
And he was persuaded, who isn't?
But he also said that he wasn't persuaded that it was intentional.
And I know that you raised this question with me legitimately, right?
I mean, if we don't have a memo that says, you know, Bill, let's, you know, destroy the fertility of America's women.
steve bannon
Because to believe that is to accept that they're monsters, right?
And so that's, I could get there, but I'm not there yet.
naomi wolf
Right, absolutely. And that's as it should be.
I mean, we are journalists, but I do think I found intentionality.
And I'll tell you what I mean.
So, I literally Googled DULIP nanoparticles affect fertility.
And within two seconds, I saw a 2018 and a 2017 study, both of them peer reviewed, one of them by Chinese scientists.
And they both confirm that lipid nanoparticles have been known at least since 2017 to dramatically destroy fertility.
So this is- And where were those studies?
steve bannon
Your point is that it's impossible for Pfizer not to have known that.
It's impossible for FDA or CDC, Dr.
Walensky and others, not to know about that study.
naomi wolf
Well, everyone in the lipid nanoparticle space has known since 2017 that they destroy fertility.
And let me read you just one quote because it's so dramatic.
This is the 2018 NIH study.
Nanoparticles can pass through the blood testis barrier.
Remember, we broke that story.
We thought we were breaking it, but the NIH knew.
Placental barrier. Again, we thought we were breaking it.
NIH knew. The epithelial barrier, which protect reproductive tissues.
And then lipid nanoparticles accumulate in reproductive organs.
Again, we thought we broke that story.
NIH knew in 2018.
steve bannon
You're saying every time you got the data, you thought you were breaking it, then you looked and they already knew because these studies were done.
naomi wolf
Correct. Nanoparticles' accumulation damages organs, testis, epididymis, ovary, and uterus by destroying Sertoli cells, Leydig cells, and germ cells.
You remember Sertoli cells and Leydig cells are the hormones that regulate masculinity, that turn boys and adolescents into men, that create recognizable adult men with deep voices, broad shoulders.
You know, body hair, the ability to father children, and germ cells causing reproductive organ dysfunction that adversely affects sperm quality, quantity, morphology, and motility, meaning the ability of sperm to inseminate a woman, or reduces the number of mature oocytes, which are eggs, and disrupts primary and secondary follicular development.
In addition, nanoparticles can disrupt the levels of secreted hormones causing changes in sexual behavior.
steve bannon
And this was all known?
NIH. Then how can they possibly, this is my point, how can they, if you're saying that's intentionality because they knew this beforehand, How could this have been covered up by even people who had done those studies, right? Forget FDA and CDC. Let's say they're all in on it.
How do you then get the people, once they saw this happening, how the people actually did those studies going, hey, hey, you're not seeing our studies.
Why did it take you guys after the Pfizer was forced by the courts to give it, you did the assessments.
You did the analysis and said, oh, breaking, oh, we found out that this has got an antecedent or precedent.
naomi wolf
Well, first of all, I think that the scientists who work with nanoparticles and the scientists who created this vaccine should be dragged in front of microphones and made to answer that question.
But I can tell you, one reason I can tell you about it is I don't take funding from the NIH. The people who publish this study are the people who fund the scientists who are doing these who are finding these harms and know about these harms.
I need to read one more quick quote, please.
So in the 2017 study, which is called Toxicity of Nanoparticles on Reproductive Systems in Animals, it says, females are particularly more vulnerable to nanoparticle toxicity and toxicity in this population may affect reproductivity and fetal development, just like we've been finding.
We laboriously tracked down midwives.
They told us about the placentas.
Dr. James Thorpe told us about the fetal malformations.
They knew in 2017 that these lipid nanoparticles would cause fetal malformations.
Moreover, various types of nanoparticles have negative effects on germ cells, fetal development, and the female reproductive system.
Boom. This is another peer-reviewed published study.
This is in frontiersinscience.org.
steve bannon
You have dozens of NGOs for women's health and better women's health.
You have many of those that are funded by philanthropies or wherever, and some of the government, these NGOs, are about women's health for minorities.
And you've already shown where this whole thing was weighted towards minority.
You know, they were paying people to take it and try it.
Of all those groups, Why is no one at the barricade saying, oh my God, it's eight to one, it's principally the thing, minority of women, the most vulnerable, the poorest.
Why is there not some outrage, at least not even on the left overall, but just one group?
naomi wolf
Right. You know, honestly, they've all taken the money.
You know, these people who flowed the money from the CARES Act to trusted messengers knew knew just whom to buy.
And so now they've taken the money and they're silenced and maybe their conscience is bothering them.
But I guess the last thing I want to say is that hormones, you know, changes in sexual behavior.
So many young adults and I'm a big supporter of LGBTQ rights.
So many young adults are confused about their sexuality or they've been injected.
And parents are saying, my teenager, my young adult doesn't care about dating, doesn't care about courtship, doesn't care about getting their driver's license, right?
I wrote a whole book on female sexual response and about the relationship between hormones to feelings.
And basically these lipid nanoparticles are dissolving bonding.
They're dissolving attachment between mother and child, between husband and wife.
They're dissolving families.
steve bannon
I'm drudging every day in these things.
You see the suicide rates up, the suicide rate with young girls up.
Are you saying that you believe you're going to be able to tie that back to the vaccine?
naomi wolf
All I'm saying is what I see here, which is these two studies say they negatively affect reproduction and that they negatively affect sexual behavior.
And I'm telling you, having studied women and bonding and hormones, that if you affect hormones, you're going to affect things like oxytocin, which is how mothers bond with children.
And many women anecdotally are saying they're having trouble bonding with their children.
You're going to affect how husbands bond with wives and vice versa.
You're dissolving, like obviously needs more study by uncompromised scientists, but literally from what these studies show, they're dissolving the way human beings attach to each other.
steve bannon
Okay, you're gonna bounce and go do your other interview, and then you're gonna come back.
Yes, excuse me. We're gonna set you up to go do that interview right now, Naomi Wolf with another blockbuster.
Just want to say, and this is for the War Room Posse, the volunteers, you know, people come here because you can put your shoulder to the wheel and provide muscle.
The volunteers that did this and took the Pfizer documents, remember, it was just because, I think it was, Dell Bigtree and the lawyers who work for him, and I think they're in Texas, they were the ones who went to federal court and actually got these documents released.
The underlying Pfizer docs were supposed to be kept secret for 75 years.
75 years.
As in the Kennedy assassination, which I think it was Chief Justice Earl Warren, he told people, not in our lifetime, Will you ever know the answer to this?
This is back when they set up the Warren Commission because of the secret nature of the documents with Kennedy.
These are supposed to be for 75 years.
Because they won in court, we were able to do the analysis.
The team was able to do the analysis.
I think there's 3,500.
War Room Posse volunteered for it.
And of course you had Amy Kelly who was able to coordinate it.
Then they had a number of doctors.
I think there's 250 lawyers.
A whole raft of doctors came forward and professionals in the medical industry, nurses, people that are used to going through this type of material with the War Room and of course under Naomi's.
But it's caused quite a firestorm and of course they're bringing up stuff every day.
This is one of the Just remember, of all the things we present to you every day, there's a ton of work going on behind the scenes, and particularly right now with all the investigations.
That's why you've had MTG with Impeachment Week.
You had Anna Paulina Luna coming forward about the expulsion of Shifty Shift.
You've got the entire debt ceiling, and you're absolutely critical.
Remember, this all revolves around you.
It just wasn't the... The ten seats we picked up and the net five seat majority we have.
It is about the kind of the six and the 20 and even more than that now, I think 40 or 50 votes that are galvanized by your activity.
A long way of saying your agency, your agency has made so many positive things happen in saving this republic and there's so much work going on.
And that's why, quite frankly, so many people want to come into the War Room.
So many people want to make their pitch to this audience and have this audience respond.
Just the other day, the Jim Caviezel interview.
I think we're over 100,000 tickets now.
It's just incredible. Angel.com slash War Room.
And you go to Angel 10 to get your discount.
But there, Jim came on.
What, he spent an hour with us, or three or four segments?
Over 100,000 tickets.
Just unbelievable. Because this audience is engaged like no other audience has ever been.
We make this show very tough.
We make this show, we try to put out information, and we try to put out the most important information of the day.
To think through what the issues are that not just affect your life, but have an impact on the community, your family, and most importantly, your country.
But it's a ton of work going on.
We've got Naomi had to step out.
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steve bannon
Okay. Short commercial break.
There's a lot going on on a Friday.
Natalie and Ben are going to join me at the top of the six o'clock hour.
Got another segment here.
Just stick around, get another cup of coffee or maybe an adult beverage.
You're in the war room.
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You also talked to him about some of the investigations that former President Donald Trump is currently facing.
Where does he think the most danger lies?
Well, of the more than half dozen investigations, the former attorney general told CBS News, in his view, there is one that stands out.
And he said the former president's comments at that recent CNN town hall may have created more legal exposure.
I've said all along that of the cases out there right now, the one I'd be most concerned about if I were the former president is the Mar-a-Lago document case.
And why so? Because it doesn't go a lot on intent or anything like that.
It's very clear that he had no business having those documents.
He was given a long time to send them back, and they were subpoenaed.
And if there's any games being played there, he's going to be very exposed.
Given the developments in the grand jury, do you believe that Special Counsel Jack Smith is close to a charging decision?
I would think they'd want to do it before the end of the year.
And, you know, it could be, you know, later in the summer or in the fall, you know, would be the earliest I would expect it.
And why that timing? Well, because if they're close, if they're close to a decision, I think the process of, you know, reviewing that and socializing with the attorney general and so forth and buttoning it up would probably take that long.
steve bannon
We started the show about the math and the numbers.
This will throw us into a constitutional crisis.
That's if Joe Biden hasn't pulled the 14th Amendment or printed a trillion dollar coin in the interim to try to get over the debt ceiling.
Anyway, we've got a lot to go to tomorrow.
Be back live to go through all of this.
I'm going to do Ukraine for a big part of the next hour.
You've got to stick around for this now.
Zelensky's in Saudi Arabia.
Zelensky's going to the G7. We've got to get to the bottom of that.
And Natalie's got a very interesting take on all this.
Naomi Wolf is back from our interview.
You've got five minutes. The floor is yours.
I know our audience wants to get as much input from you as possible.
naomi wolf
Yeah, I mean, I guess the takeaway is no one can claim they didn't know, right?
I think it's so interesting that Dr.
Walensky resigned five days after we posted report 69 that showed the, you know, the dead babies, you know, Pfizer's language.
steve bannon
On a Friday evening, which is when you want to get them out of town after the news cycle.
naomi wolf
Exactly right. And we showed that Pfizer's language was that some of these babies died due to transplacental exposure, and that's Pfizer's language, right?
And we've shown that the lipid nanoparticles, you know, again, I've been saying this for over a year based on the work of the Posse's experts, Go through, accumulate in the ovaries, traverse the placenta, enter the fetal environment, enter the fetus.
So we posted that.
She resigned. And then three days later, as you may recall, Ofcom said that I was guilty of harm in reporting this and that Mark Stein was guilty of...
steve bannon
Ofcom is about GBR. It's a British government institution that monitors it.
And they said they were shocked that you went on GBR and gave data.
naomi wolf
Yeah, they said I was causing harm because people might change their medical practices based on what I was saying, which, you know, God willing.
But basically, it's so interesting that there was this huge reaction by two governments, two major governments, and a third one in Australia because our volunteer, Dr.
Jayanti Kundahasan, was being stripped of her medical license by their government medical licensing board for the crime of introducing me and Amy Kelly Virtually at a conference of concerned Australian physicians.
So three governments are going after us and, you know, and this posse by extension for, you know, telling the truth and printing the truth and reporting the truth.
But it was about the babies, right?
And was that the harms? Well, these two studies and, you know, I'm sorry to I don't kind of use technical language in sharing them, but I hope I've explained fully to the audience the takeaways that these two studies show, and these are just two, there are no doubt more now that we found these two,
that at least since 2017, the people formulating these, you know, everyone who used A major part of these injections, which is lipid nanoparticles, knew that they degrade male and female mammalian reproduction and change sexual behavior and alter your hormones.
And so they knew. So they knew like the way I know how to construct a paragraph because I'm a writer.
They knew. They didn't tell us.
So, the bottom line is, I feel that this is conclusive evidence that it was intentional.
You know, way back to 2017, actually it's frontiers.
This study shows that many studies have examined the effect of nanoparticles on primary and secondary target organs with a concentration on the in vivo and in vitro effects of nanoparticles on the male and female reproductive systems at the clinical, cellular, and molecular level.
Meaning scientists have been looking for years now closely at the effect of nanoparticles on reproduction at multiple levels.
And you remember in the Pfizer documents, one of the creepier things is that they mated nanoparticles.
Male rats that were vaccinated with female rats that were unvaccinated sacrificed them and then dissect, you know, looked at the cells of their sexual organs.
Sorry to have such a weird conversation with you, but we have to face this.
So the bottom line is everyone involved in the rollout at the highest levels, Boncel, Bourla, Dr.
Walensky, the head of the FDA, Dr.
Collins, they knew.
They must have known.
There is no way they did not know that these injections would mess up hormones, meaning mess up attachment and desire and family life and normal adolescent growth into normal adult human beings capable of forming attachments and families, and they knew that it would damage The testes, the sperm, the uteruses, the ovaries, and every single part of mammalian organs needed in reproduction.
steve bannon
We've got 30 seconds. How do people get to you?
How do they volunteer? Where do they get everything?
naomi wolf
Go to dailycloud.io.
Please, please support us.
You make all the difference to us.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. And go to Amazon because we now have 14,000 new offset copies of this book because the first four editions sold out.
steve bannon
Fourth Edition. Amazing.
Thank you for dropping by. Naomi Wolf is in the capital.
That's danger. Okay, short commercial break.
Natalie Winters is going to join us on an investigative report.
Ben Harnwell from Rome.
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