May 16, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room, Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome. It's Tuesday, 16 May in the year of 2023. | ||
| We're jammed this evening. | ||
| I want to start with our own Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie, you're at Tim Pool in a little while. | ||
| Walk us through. This is a big deal for all of us. | ||
| We love the Tim Pool Show. | ||
| We love their audience. Love Tim Poole, his entire collection of characters, I would say, and what I refer to as the Harper's Ferry compound. | ||
| Give us your assessment today. | ||
| What do you expect to talk about on Tim Poole tonight? | ||
| Joining their program, I was supposed to go on the show a few weeks ago, but unfortunately, because Pete Buttigieg is so bad at his job, my Flight was delayed and then canceled, so I ended up not being able to make it. | ||
| I'm sure there was probably some intentional interference, maybe on the Biden regime's part or maybe the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So this has been a long time coming, but I'm very excited to be joining. | ||
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I have to say you've sort of, I don't know, gotten my hopes up. | |
| I don't really know what to expect. | ||
| You've made me think they're a band of some wild people, but I'm excited. | ||
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I guess that's what I'm used to in the war room. | |
| No, this is not, yeah, it's even more gonzo than the worm. | ||
| This is definitely not Palm Beach. | ||
| A couple things, you know, these hearings, I just want to hear, do you, you know, we've had the AI hearing today, the Oversight Committee. | ||
| Give us your assessment of how you think things were seen. | ||
| You've got a couple stories on Zuckerberg and Ukraine board I want to talk about. | ||
| In detail, but I want to get your assessment of the Durham reports out. | ||
| Do you think that we're being aggressive enough on these hearings, on these investigations, and if we're not, what is your recommendation to leadership on how we kick this thing into gear? | ||
| Because I think the Durham report, to me, epitomizes just the limp-rag, wet-noodle way that Republicans go about this, ma'am. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think we are firing on all cylinders. | ||
| And I think part of it is that they want us to be demoralized. | ||
| So there's, I think, a lot of conflicts of interest going on there. | ||
| And I think, as we know, it's not just that we have rhinos among our ranks, but we have people who I think are just, frankly, okay with losing and are okay with putting out strongly worded statements and letters and white papers, as opposed to actually firing back. | ||
| I think the press conference that Comer and the Oversight Gang had Was good in the sense that, you know, the information that they're uncovering is stuff that has been around since at least 2014 probably spans way before that. | ||
| So they really have made, I think, an impressive crusade, really a blitz into the DOJ, into the Treasury Department to get these records out. | ||
| But I think it's just hard because, you know, the war room posse, the activist crowd who's so immersed in this, since the days that the Hunter Biden hard drive broke has known a lot of these stories, these details of corruption. | ||
| So I think that's why there sort of feels like there's a lag going on in terms of actual action. | ||
| But I mean, concerning the Durham report, You know, I think there's a faction of Republicans who are okay with just being vindicated, and it feels good to know that the Trump-Russia collusion was a hoax. | ||
| But I don't really buy into the whole mindset that we need, whether it's the mainstream media or Durham, to really validate what is reality, what we see around us. | ||
| I want to see Schiff, Swalwell, all of the people who purposely exploited and weaponized the fact that they were having secret briefings, classified briefings in the SCIF, And would then go on media and say, oh, well, I've seen information that no one else has seen. | ||
| So you basically can't fact check me on this. | ||
| And there's incontrovertible evidence that Donald Trump colluded with the Russians. | ||
| If these people, frankly, I think they should go to jail, not just for election interference, but for waste of taxpayer funds and for, frankly, treason. | ||
| But if we don't see these people at least testify in front of Congress, I think it's fair to say that winning the majority in 2022 Didn't really amount to much. | ||
| You got started at the University of Chicago, but being back here in D.C., and then you went to Palm Beach for a while, South Florida. | ||
| You're back as an in-bed now because of these investigations, because of the hearings, because of that. | ||
| What's the sense That you get, even your first couple weeks back here, of the staffs and the people who are doing it. | ||
| Is there a esprit de corps? | ||
| Are they despondent? | ||
| Because there's all kinds of questions. | ||
| The money's been allocated, but it's not being spent like on the weaponization committee. | ||
| It's still very small. Some of these committees are not fully staffed out. | ||
| And I'm hearing conflicting things. | ||
| Some of the people are super gung-ho and they're working 24-7. | ||
| Others that they just don't see it happening right now. | ||
| And there's not this sense of like the Democrats. | ||
| There's not a sense of just playing Smash Mouth. | ||
| What is your sense after being back for a couple weeks? | ||
| Yeah, I hear conflicting messages, too. | ||
| I obviously speak with a lot of members and a lot of their staff on the Hill, on oversight, on weaponization, and there just doesn't seem to be the same appetite that the left has for actually going after these people, or it just sort of seems that the defense of, oh, well, my hands are tied, I'm just one member, I can't really Do anything sort of seems to reign supreme. | ||
| But in reality, I don't actually think that's the case. | ||
| I also think when you really get into the personnel side of things, there's been some very interesting reporting how a lot of the holdovers, at least on weaponization, a lot of people who used to serve on the January 6th special committee, That they're still basically working and staffing these committees. | ||
| So I think if you take the axiom that personnel is policy to heart, which is a valid thesis, I think in terms of the obstruction with some of these committees, it might really, I think, kind of boil down to personnel in the sense that a lot of the staffers who are supporting This effort, they don't actually support it to their core. | ||
| But I don't know, and it's not often that I come on War Room and say those words, I don't know. | ||
| And I think there's a lot more to unpack there, because it's sort of a weird sense that I get from people on the Hill when I speak to them. | ||
| Because they say that they want accountability. | ||
| They want to have these hearings. | ||
| They want to go after Fauci. | ||
| They want to go after the Biden family. | ||
| They want the evidence, and the evidence is there. | ||
| But there just sort of seems to be a disconnect. | ||
| I don't know if the problem works its way all the way up to leadership, if it's sort of the controlled opposition critique of Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| I don't quite know what it is. | ||
| And like I said, those aren't words that I say often. | ||
| But something is not right, and nine times out of ten, you know my background is in Chinese Communist Party infiltration, but it's not just the Chinese Communist Party that has chosen to infiltrate the ranks of America and the Republican Party. | ||
| I would say, based on my best guess, that I think a lot of the staffers on these committees, like I said, who are holdovers, from either it's the January 6th Committee or even previous kind of Democratic-led investigations. | ||
| I think that might be some of the holdup. | ||
| The swamp, you know, doesn't drain itself by choice, let alone easily. | ||
| You know, we had the AI committee hearing the first time. | ||
| Of course, Zuckerberg has put, you know, really bit his company on this. | ||
| You've also got Carrie Lake, this heroic effort of Carrie Lake to kind of fight this on the signature verification. | ||
| She'll get her day in court starting tomorrow. | ||
| Walk me through your, walk me through Zuckerberg. | ||
| You've been the one, I think, investigative reporter has been on him from the absolute very beginning. | ||
| Walk us through your latest story. | ||
| Yeah, I hate to be the bearer of more bad news, but unfortunately they are up to their old tricks. | ||
| People may recall the Center for Tech and Civic Life. | ||
| This was the several hundred million dollar organization. | ||
| that used their funds to increase turnout exclusively, if not 99.8 % in Democratic districts in favor of Joe Biden. | ||
| They were accessing mail-in ballots before, actually, Election Day. | ||
| They pushed for basically universal vote-by-mail, everything. | ||
| The left's kind of ultimate fantasy when it comes to how to run And I use that term lightly. | ||
| Election is doing a heavy lift there. | ||
| But unfortunately, CTCL has rebranded into another rather innocuously named group, the Alliance for Election Excellence. | ||
| And this group is now using its $80 million war test. | ||
| To actually give grants, very sizable grants, to local election offices across the country at the county level. | ||
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Hang on, hang on, hang on. | |
| I thought after you beat these guys in the last and exposed all this, correct me if I'm wrong, I thought he and the wife came out and said, we're never going to do this again. | ||
| This might not have been appropriate. | ||
| Didn't they come out and pledge? | ||
| Maybe I missed it. Didn't they pledge that they weren't going to be involved in that again when you caught the half a billion dollars? | ||
| They basically spent to rig the last election. | ||
| Didn't they promise and swear they didn't, they weren't going to do it? | ||
| Is this a workaround or is this, are they still saying, no, we just rethought this and we're going to be involved? | ||
| Well, just because Mark Zuckerberg says something doesn't mean it's true. | ||
| I'd argue it's probably the opposite. | ||
| And in this case, I think it really speaks to kind of the left's apparatus when it comes really to any social issue, climate change, you name it, but really elections. | ||
| And it's sort of this much like the Biden family, but this shell game of nonprofits and dark money flowing around. | ||
| And it's because they don't want it to be traced back to these entities who, once their missions and their agendas are exposed, like the Center for Tech and Civic Life, It's so clear that they can't use their self-described nonpartisan or independent labels. | ||
| And frankly, when you start actually getting intense scrutiny on these organizations and you see the level of funding that is going into these election operations, I think the narrative, the notion that these people are operating altruistically really just falls apart. | ||
| And I think Americans can actually see these operations for what they are. | ||
| And it's election rigging. | ||
| It's basically privately funding, if not outright purchasing elections. | ||
| So they've had to be a little more creative. | ||
| I will happily wear it as a badge of honor that the Center for Tech and Civic Life is sort of a semi-defunct organization. | ||
| I know one of their co-founders recently stepped down and they don't do as much, at least when it comes to the mail and ballot drive. | ||
| Also, they did accomplish a lot of their goals, but they have sort of had to rebrand, but unfortunately they're doing the same really nefarious agenda. | ||
| In this case, the story that I had up had to do with how they were giving out grants to county level election offices to purchase them basically extra storage space and facilities where these offices could then, catch this, store ballots and election tabulation machines in the run up to the 2024 election. | ||
| Keep in mind, this is the same group whose predecessor is still, I think, engaged In court, in a legal battle, because they illegally accessed mail-in ballots that people had used to vote before Election Day. | ||
| There was a whole scandal and controversy that they were bullying local election officials. | ||
| So I think it just speaks really to pay-for-play politics. | ||
| And usually I use that term to talk about the Biden family. | ||
| But in this case, we're talking about the actual administration of elections, which is something that should obviously not be politicized, let alone in the hands of Mark Zuckerberg. | ||
| We saw it happen last time that he gave this money out at the local level. | ||
| Do you believe it? We'll let you go. | ||
| I know you gotta get ready for the tin pull of it all. | ||
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Are we... Have we learned the lessons? | |
| I mean, you see this, and you see how brazenly they're doing it, and they understand at these deck plate levels. | ||
| And we say, store space for ballots and tabulators machines. | ||
| I mean, you just triggered the audience, right? | ||
| Half the audience is not going to be able to eat tonight, right? | ||
| I can sell a few more of my pillows because they're going to need something to help them go to sleep. | ||
| Are we prepared? Is your sense as you followed up that they're just so brazen, they'll put another front group up, they'll funnel the dark money in somewhere, because they understand what works. | ||
| And that's why they continue to invest in this. | ||
| Do you get a sense that responsible independents, Republicans, just good citizens groups, fair voting groups, Are on top of this in these key states? | ||
| Do you get any inclination that people are following this as you report, hey, they haven't apologized, they're not going to apologize, they're going to lie and do a misdirection play but continue to fund this stuff? | ||
| I think it's the critical distinction between ballots and votes, and I think the progressive left is very much concerned with the realm of ballots, right? | ||
| You don't actually have to link them to an individual, whereas our side is still Very, very, very intently focused on the concepts of votes and wanting to kind of play above bar, which in some ways is good, but when you're up against, you know, it's not just that it's the RNC versus the DNC. We have the RNC, which is effectively controlled opposition. | ||
| It's pretty weak. Meanwhile, the DNC is always firing on all cylinders, but the DNC doesn't really even do much when it comes to election administration, right? | ||
| The DNC is just sort of, I think, One, I would say, component of a broader left-wing apparatus that really goes back. | ||
| And like I said, it's the same if it's any social issue, climate change, abortion, you name it. | ||
| But it really is, it's not just dark money, but it's dark money that then distributes these groups, not just to political advocacy groups and lobbyist groups, but these are, you know, take the Durham report, for example. | ||
| There's a strong NGO link there, and these non-profits, which really subscribe to this kind of wash, rinse, repeat propaganda news cycle, where they're spreading demonstrably false talking points about whatever the issue is, and they are really going after the heart and soul and the mind of the American people to distort the way that they think about these issues. | ||
| Meanwhile, the best that we have on our side is, you know, Heritage, and no disrespect to Heritage, but they, you know, put out a white paper and they have a small, you know, task force of a few people tracking election crimes. | ||
| That doesn't matter when the left controls, you know, every millisecond on mainstream media and they have a war chest of, you know, at least a billion dollars to quite literally privatize the entire election system from start to finish. | ||
| I mean, they have nonprofits who, several of them, That exists specifically to just create templates of mail-in ballots to make it easier for immigrants to vote. | ||
| And basically that's code word for people to vote for Democrats. | ||
| So they really have, I mean, engineered, reverse engineered this, I would argue, kind of socially engineered voting to work for Democrats. | ||
| And meanwhile, I guess we have the RNC if you can even count that on the conservative side of things. | ||
| So it's not a fair fight, but we'll definitely keep exposing all of our shortcomings with stories like this about Zuckerberg at warroom.org. | ||
| Unbelievable. We'll get you on tomorrow talking about the Ukraine story plus the hot wash up and we'll play some clips. | ||
| If I make it back. Maybe broadcast from there, I don't know. | ||
| It's not Palm Beach, let's say that. | ||
| It's not the Seminole Club. | ||
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It's less Palm Beach. The Evergrade Club, right. | |
| Natalie, how do people get to you on social media, the site, all your writings, all your social media? | ||
| I'm Natalie G. Winters on all platforms. | ||
| Thank you for having me. Natalie, thank you. | ||
| Look, good luck tonight. | ||
| Look forward to watching it. We'll be doing live stream of Tim on Getter. | ||
| Captain Ben and Grace, myself, Zirkle will all be on there to follow it. | ||
| Liz Harrington. Liz, I've got you on here. | ||
| I want to talk about polling. Liz is a senior communications strategist for Donald J. Trump. | ||
| But I've got to ask you about Natalie's reporting and her investigations. | ||
| I mean, do you believe—and look, you were an RNC. You were a spokesman for the RNC for a long time. | ||
| Do you believe that either the RNC is on top of this or even the Trump campaign is on top of this? | ||
| Because people are—we're going to talk about some polling that's incredibly powerful for the president. | ||
| But we've got to face reality. | ||
| We're going to get right back into the same situation. | ||
| Is your sense that someone's on top of this right now because there's hundreds of millions of dollars by the bad guys flooding into the system into what Natalie said? | ||
| Ballots versus votes. | ||
| Liz Harrington, your thoughts? | ||
| Well, thanks to Natalie. | ||
| Great reporting as always. | ||
| And as it stands right now, I'm not confident with the RNC doing much of anything to get a hold of this, which we've now had years to really get infrastructure in place and to combat this full-scale rigging, | ||
| which is what it is. And it's not just this Zuckerberg Group I mean, they have completely stacked the deck in all these battleground states and changing the rules, changing, rigging the election procedures. | ||
| And it seems like we have the grassroots army working in living rooms, going, scouring through voter rolls, but we don't have The big guns, which we should. | ||
| I mean, the RNC has a ton of money. | ||
| So does our campaign. | ||
| We have the infrastructure and we are working on this issue. | ||
| I, in particular, am looking at this issue really hard and trying to get the right people in place to kind of mobilize these grassroots armies because we have the people that have been putting in the hard work. | ||
| We just haven't had the people at the top of things that have been you know using those resources wisely instead they've been you know wasting our time I mean what did the RNC do with Arizona and there were so many signs in 2022 that the same thing was going to happen that there was going to be malfeasance and yet they just they said that they were going to be there and yet when the sabotage came they just ran away they didn't do anything so I'm not very confident right now as it stands. | ||
| However, I think there are things we can do to get the correct plans in place. | ||
| I mean, all we have to do is just thwart the plans of the Democrats and the Uniparty. | ||
| We see what they're doing. | ||
| We've seen it before and they're ever evolving. | ||
| They're going to manipulate everything they can. | ||
| All we need to do is throw a wrench in a couple of their plans and we'll have a shot because we know we have the voters. | ||
| We know we have the people. | ||
| We have the best candidate. | ||
| We have the truth. | ||
| But we're going to have all these forces stacked against us, and we need to be smart and tactical about how we're thwarting the Democrats' plans. | ||
| President Trump's awakened to this. | ||
| I mean, he comes out on the ballots versus the votes in the practicality of not having... | ||
| Look, we've had his election stolen. | ||
| Carrie Lake's in court tomorrow, and I really want to give a hat tip to her team for not just not giving up, but really keeping the central part was the signature verification. | ||
| There's so many other aspects of the game day vote of which they stole it, but this is the one that I think you can actually prove in court and turn this thing around. | ||
| Is it your opinion? | ||
| That the president himself is very focused. | ||
| If he's focused, then the rest of it will fall in place with leadership like yourself and the rest of it. | ||
| You got a great team. You got Chung, you got Jason Miller, you got Susie, you got some great people. | ||
| But is President Trump, because he gives the rally speeches, is he now, he kind of gets the joke and he understands how they stole it from him last time and how he's got to stop the steal this time? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. I mean, he knows exactly what's going on. | ||
| And he's committed to just getting us at least, you know, he said it in his speeches in New Hampshire recently. | ||
| He said, you know, I don't even want you to campaign for me. | ||
| Just help me make sure that the counting is legit. | ||
| I mean, just help me make sure that we're going to have a semblance of a fair process here. | ||
| And I'm not worried about anything else. | ||
| So he knows. exactly what's going on and you're right we do have great people that are around him that are very smart and know what needs to be done as well so we're working on that specifically And I think we will be much more prepared come this time because we know who we can rely on and we know who we can't. | ||
| And I think that's an important learning process as well. | ||
| I mean, when 2020 happened, it certainly, speaking for myself, it opened my eyes just to how Duplicitous how corrupt our system was and really people you thought were on the up and up and okay were completely the opposite. | ||
| If we have one thing, we have that silver lining, that clarity that has come with time and true merit and showing who the real people are. | ||
| I think we're going to really lean on them, the real people, to fix this because otherwise we won't have a shot. | ||
| We have to make sure we have a legit process the closest we can in order to make sure we can fix any of the other problems in our country. | ||
| By the way, we're about three minutes from the break, and I know you're carving out time for us, so I want you to stay through the break because I want to get to this. | ||
| We had Rasmussen, Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen, on this morning in the show, and the numbers blew me away. | ||
| 70 to 17 among independents about they know it's an invasion on the border. | ||
| Two-thirds of one-third of the American people now, and these are likely voters, think that there's an invasion on the southern border. | ||
| Even, I think, 30 or 40 percent of Democrats Every of the FBI, if you look at all the main topics, you know, President Trump going after the administrative state, if you look at all the big topics, I mean, these things are breaking to the high 50s to two-thirds. | ||
| I mean, these are blowout. Now, some have got a 70 handle on it. | ||
| When you also look at the polling of President Trump, there's something going on here. | ||
| So before we get into specific numbers, you've been with him for a couple of years now. | ||
| You travel a lot too, I know, to some of these rallies. | ||
| Tell me what's going on. | ||
| It looks like, and I've argued this for a while, but you can now see the shift mathematically. | ||
| It's been out there for a while. | ||
| Is there something going on? | ||
| Is there some new spirit, a new revival of the Trump movement? | ||
| Because these numbers are blowout numbers. | ||
| These are not close. What are you sensing? | ||
| Well, I think it is. | ||
| I think it is stronger than it's ever been before. | ||
| Really, in an environment that's never been more hostile, and never been more unfair. | ||
| I mean, if you look at the media coverage, those numbers are stunning because they haven't been covering the invasion on the border. | ||
| I mean, people are having to seek it. | ||
| Well, they live it. So they don't even really need the media to tell them anymore. | ||
| They're living it. | ||
| They see it in their community and they seek out the truth. | ||
| So I think there is a very important realignment going on where since 2020, The masks have really come off. | ||
| You've really seen who you can trust, who you can't. | ||
| And people are absolutely determined to seek the truth. | ||
| And so they're going and they're finding that source themselves. | ||
| And the amazing thing is, even though the media thinks they still can control so much of the narrative, these media, these left-leaning poll organizations, they can't hide the truth either because they're projecting what's out there in close to what's actually reality of what the voters are saying. | ||
| It's so divergent. | ||
| I mean, you can see from January. | ||
| When I think things really got serious and people were looking at what was going on and to see, oh, President Trump's in the race again, he's gonna come back. | ||
| And they started to look at the race more seriously. | ||
| I mean, you can see the poll trend lines. | ||
| It is just not even a contest. | ||
| I mean, President Trump on week after week with policy after policy video, speech after speech, I mean, he's given some of the most important speeches I think he has. | ||
| Since even before, you know, when he was president. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I want to come back. I want to put those charts up. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Liz Harrington, senior communications strategist for President Trump, is going to join us. | ||
| These polling numbers are absolutely blunt. | ||
| I agree with you. It's kind of a convergence of many, many things. | ||
| Also, we got brother Ben Harnwell is going to join us. | ||
| We got a lot to catch up with Ben about the situation in Ukraine as the offensive, the spring offensive has kicked off a barrage of missile attack in Kiev by the Russians and of course in Bakhmut, intense fighting. | ||
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| Liz Harrington, the numbers... | ||
| Or just blowout numbers. | ||
| And your point is, it's the trend is your friend here. | ||
| The trend is just incredible. | ||
| Particularly, quite frankly, and let me be brutally frank. | ||
| I mean, Fox News, the Murdochs are totally in the tank for Governor Santas. | ||
| And I believe Governor Santas done a very good job in Florida. | ||
| We had Carol Swain on today talk about the efforts he's making down there against diversity, equity, and inclusion. | ||
| But like I said, he's not nearly ready to be president of the United States. | ||
| I don't know if he'll be ready in 2028 as I see more of it. | ||
| But Fox is completely in the tank for him, pressing this. | ||
| Given that these numbers are incredible, and I think that doesn't fully incorporate what we just saw of this incredible town hall, and I think for the audience to know that That Liz Harrington and Jason Miller and Stephen Chung, that comms team, to prep the president was just extraordinary and extraordinary work. | ||
| So walk me through the math here because I think we haven't done the polling on this for a while. | ||
| I wanted to wait until you can walk people through it, ma'am. | ||
| Sure, absolutely. So let's start with this morning consult poll, which really tracks almost like on a daily basis. | ||
| They issue these out every single week. | ||
| And again, this is not a conservative poll by any stretch of the imagination, but if you look at the trend here, certainly since January, I mean, it is a total consolidation of President Trump getting support of Republican voters. | ||
| You can see the trend lines and the utter collapse of Ron DeSantis, who, as you just mentioned, had the backing of an entire news network, the shadow campaign with the book tour. | ||
| He's still not even an official candidate. | ||
| He's out in Iowa. | ||
| Last weekend, and yet his numbers continue to crater. | ||
| And it's really interesting as well, if you're asking Republican voters all the time, if you go down and look at the favorability, President Trump is so high above everybody else among Republican voters. | ||
| He's like at 78%. | ||
| Something that's very interesting because you've got this Ron DeSantis shadow campaign, but you also have this media narrative Propping up these other people. | ||
| Look at Mike Pence's numbers. | ||
| It's stunning because even with all the negativity, right, all the negative reporting, the indictment, the shams, the witch hunts against President Trump, he's sitting at 78 % approval. | ||
| And again, in not a conservative poll, among Republican primary voters, registered voters, 20 % negative. | ||
| Which, I mean, to me, given the amount of negative media coverage he's sustained for seven years, that is incredibly low. | ||
| Look at Mike Pence. | ||
| Mike Pence has by and far the highest unfavorable. | ||
| He's sitting at 25%. | ||
| Again, these are only Republican voters. | ||
| You're asking Republican voters. | ||
| That, to me, is a direct response to him being exposed for who he really was on January 6th, right? | ||
| He lied about what he was supposed to do. | ||
| He betrayed what the voters wanted him to do, just send it back to the states. | ||
| He totally did a bait and switch, revealed himself to be a total tool for the uniparty establishment. | ||
| And you have a quarter of Republican voters who, at least, I think it probably would be even higher, will not support Mike Pence. | ||
| But what is the media coming out today? | ||
| They're saying, Mike Pence, there's a super PAC starting for him. | ||
| He's about to announce. | ||
| It's completely divorced from reality. | ||
| He has no support among Republican voters, which leads me to the other Big poll out, the TIP poll, that shows, again, the same consolidation support for President Trump completely growing in recent months, almost cracking 60%. | ||
| I think it's at 55 % here. | ||
| And everyone else is completely nobody. | ||
| But if you look at this poll, it compares Joe Biden, on the other hand, who we're supposed to believe, right, got the most votes in history. | ||
| He can't crack 40 % with the Democrat primary. | ||
| We're told there is no Democrat primary, right? | ||
| Joe Biden's the incumbent. | ||
| They're not talking about any debates on the Democrat side, right? | ||
| He's the nominee, and yet he cannot consolidate support. | ||
| Two-thirds of Democrat voters oppose him. | ||
| And yet, when you look at the Republican side, President Trump is gaining. | ||
| He's going to be at two-thirds to support him. | ||
| So we've got these two dueling tracks. | ||
| You've got reality where President Trump has consistently consolidated support since January. | ||
| He's consolidated support. | ||
| He is on the path. | ||
| He's the choice of the Republican voter. | ||
| And yet on the other side, but yet they're pretending, the media, It's pretending that there's some sort of competitive primary going on. | ||
| Oh, we need all of these debates. | ||
| It's got to be hosted by Fox News, who's been propping up DeSantis this entire time. | ||
| It's got to be hosted by the Reagan Library. | ||
| All of these shenanigans of trying to influence the voters And it's not working. | ||
| It's having the opposite effect. | ||
| People are galvanizing behind President Trump because they know he's the best choice. | ||
| He's our best fighter. | ||
| These are very serious times and you need a serious, proven leader. | ||
| And that's Donald J. Trump. | ||
| So the voters are not, they're ignoring the media narrative, which has been a complete lie to say that there's a competitive primary on the Republican side and there's no primary on the Democrat side. | ||
| I want to have you back on in the next day or two, maybe not tomorrow, the next day, and we'll get some charts up, because I want two other things, because you've hit to the thing, the reality versus how the media is trying to craft a reality, a narrative. | ||
| The other things I want to go to, which is the, now, because people, a lot of people say, well, you got these national polls and Trump's spreading the field, he's at 70 versus, you know, DeSantis is in the teens, the rest of the Keebler L's. | ||
| Roll up to 10%. | ||
| So you're at 75, you're at 70-30, you're at 75-25, and this thing continues to spread. | ||
| But, you know, now the state, well, it's a state election. | ||
| There's all these primaries in the state. The state polls are now starting to replicate what the national polls are saying. | ||
| That is a huge element here, so they can't hide behind that. | ||
| The other... As we've seen the pitch, and Axios did a good job of reporting it, DeSantis' pitch in the room to the big donors is that, you know, as powerful as Trump is and has galvanized the Republican base, he can't win. | ||
| I'm the only guy that can win. | ||
| And you're seeing that that's starting to fall apart because Trump is matching up with Biden with all this negativity and the indictments and all this, and even last week, you know, with the phony defamation, which he's now up two or three points after that, they're coming at him in lawfare But that argument's falling apart. | ||
| The two bastions of really not just the DeSantis, but anybody but Trump is falling apart because the states are now starting to replicate this massive national polling. | ||
| You see the momentum and the argument, oh, well, that's okay, but he still can't beat Biden. | ||
| He can't beat Biden, and that's falling apart as you're seeing these matchups across a wide range of polling that is not Trafalgar, it's not Richard Barris, it's not Gateway Punt, it's not War Room. | ||
| These are all center-left dissenters polls from the biggest organizations in the world. | ||
| Your assessment of that, Liz, before I let you go. | ||
| No, it's so good. It's such a good point, Steve. | ||
| And this is so true. | ||
| So a Kentucky poll just showed that President Trump's up by 56 points. | ||
| I mean, these aren't close. | ||
| The Iowa polls, unless they have it, you know, the Karl Rove poll, right? | ||
| That's the only one that shows DeSantis, you know, even in the same league. | ||
| He's not. Unless it's a paid poll by the DeSantis people, he's not anywhere close in Iowa. | ||
| There's no race here. | ||
| I mean, they're trying to push this media narrative that there is because they want perception to become reality, right? | ||
| They want to project their reality on the voters, but it really isn't working. | ||
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So you have these liberal bolsters nationally and state that completely dismantle that argument. | |
| There's a method to their madness. | ||
| The reason they want to do that, my point is, there is no primary. | ||
| We're 15 or 16 months away. | ||
| We must maniacally focus. | ||
| Trump is the guy. | ||
| But we must maniacally focus and they can't steal it again. | ||
| It gets back to the beginning of the question I asked you and what Natalie was talking about. | ||
| The entire focus right now shouldn't be some made-up thing with a couple of RNC donors and no offense my brother Dave Bossie running around with these ridiculous ideas of these debates. | ||
| The entire focus should be right now on Trump, Biden, or Trump, whoever they put in, because I think they'll put somebody in at the end, but on the mechanisms and infrastructure to make sure it can't be stolen again. | ||
| And that should be our focus. And that's why the media is coming up and trying to create all this other stuff. | ||
| It is a massive misdirection play, and we have to be maniacally focused on what is the task at hand. | ||
| And the task at hand couldn't be clearer. | ||
| Liz, you guys are doing an incredible job. | ||
| I gotta tell you, the prepping of the president and then the mid-game report that you guys did with the president, all of it was just incredible. | ||
| And I don't think people can give you guys a big enough hat tip because East Palestine started to pivot and then the CNN town hall just exploded. | ||
| It's just incredible. The rest of it is, it's not a race right now. | ||
| Liz, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| Where do they follow you? At True Social, at RealLizUSA, and all the credit goes to President Trump. | ||
| I mean, I knew it was going to be such a good environment for him, that town hall. | ||
| Get him in a room with real people and voters. | ||
| The energy there, it's just unmatched. | ||
| People, you can't help but love the guy because he just speaks so much common sense, and he's just exactly the leader we need. | ||
| So it was amazing, and that's a huge turning point as well. | ||
| He's the best he's ever been. | ||
| No doubt he's the best he's ever been. | ||
| Liz Harrington, you're a hammer. | ||
| Thank God you're on that campaign over there. | ||
| The team they get, you guys have pulled together. | ||
| Chung, Jason, yourself, Susie, others. | ||
| It's just incredible. Thank you very much, man, for being on here. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Ben, thank you for staying up. | ||
| I'm going to toss the ball to you. The Spring Offensive has started a massive missile attack, it looks like, and we still haven't gotten, because remember, in this, it's all false. | ||
| It's tough to pick through what's truth and what's not, because both sides are lying. | ||
| There's a massive missile stack in Kyiv. | ||
| We don't know if it destroyed the Patriot missile system or if they shot down all the missiles and the pivot. | ||
| The one thing we do know, Bakhmut now in its 11th month siege has not fallen, and it looks like the Ukrainian military, which are quite fearless, may have pushed the Russians back. | ||
| Give us your assessment as the spring offensive kicks off Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Good evening, Steve. That's a pretty perfect synthesis you've already given. | ||
| I'd only add that in addition to the fact that according to the Ukrainians, they are pushing the Russians further out from Bakhmut. | ||
| The same sources, I think the Deputy Defence Minister, Deputy Chief of General Staff of the Ukrainian forces, has admitted that the Russians are actually making an entry and strengthening their position on the eastern front of Bagmut. | ||
| So it's a bit sort of swings and roundabouts. | ||
| We're never really going to know how this is going to play out until one side definitively wins. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, in terms of the missiles, I think over the last 24 hours from the evening, some 18 missiles were rained down from the Russians over Kyiv. | ||
| The Ukrainians said that they shot down every single one of them, including six of these missiles. | ||
| hypersonic 7,000-mile-per-hour Kinzar missiles, which is supposed to be unstoppable. | ||
| But as you pointed out in your introduction just now, the Russians themselves claim that that's not true. | ||
| One of those Kinzar missiles took out a Patriot surface air missile stack. | ||
| So both sides are hitting the reality of the situation with their own spin and their own propaganda. | ||
| I think the most disconcerting thing is how the vast majority of the world's media is yet again so happy to sort of unthinkingly and effectively just take the Ukrainian defense ministry's press releases and carry them as news. | ||
| That's something that we're not doing here on the Wallroom. | ||
| And like I said, it's tough to ask. | ||
| And one thing I can tell you, there's something in Bakhmud that I think Zelensky has made a, and I think it's a brilliant assessment, unlike the Westerners that wanted to say, no, focus on getting a combined arms operation ready for Crimea. | ||
| He says, I got a hold, because they wanted him to give up Bakhmud a while ago. | ||
| And he said, no, we're not going to do that. | ||
| We're going to hang tough on Bakhmud. | ||
| What is, for folks about this war and our funding of this war and the casualty rates in this war and the death of Ukrainian civilians, it's not simply the media. | ||
| The ambassador to the U.S. from the Ukraine has been making the rounds here in New York and talking to other foreign embassies, other people, and the Washington Post, I think, broke this story today. | ||
| And this is why I think it's more important forever for us in this We have a debt debate to put our foot down about this. | ||
| She's adamant. | ||
| Her bottom line, it's very clear that all Russian territory, all contested territory must be turned back to the Ukrainians, including Crimea. | ||
| That the only result where they will sit down to discuss is the full Russian removal From the Donbass, from eastern Ukraine, from Crimea. | ||
| Given your sense of the European capitalism, you're covering the news. | ||
| Is that, because I'm hearing from Posobiec and others, the people over there are just worried. | ||
| And this means a major conflict that will go on for years and cost hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars. | ||
| But she's adamant. And the Washington Post and New York Times are backing up here. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. Well, I mean, I think what the Ukrainian government and Ambassador Mark Perova included in that they're doing is they're talking from a unified position. | ||
| And that's something that you can compliment Ukrainians. | ||
| Zelensky has done very well to make sure that all of his talking heads, all of his I'm saying exactly the line that he himself wants to hold. | ||
| But this is fundamentally a negotiating position. | ||
| It's delirium, and I don't think they're delirious, but it would be a delirium if that were the actual position. | ||
| I think it is setting up a hard-line position for negotiations around which they'll sit down And start to talk when that comes around. | ||
| And that's not going to come around until the United States says sit down and talk. | ||
| Because you saw when President Zelensky quite curtly Abruptly slammed the door in the face of the Vatican on Saturday to the Pope, who was offering to mediate. | ||
| There's only one reason and one reason alone that Zelensky feels confident enough to do that. | ||
| And that's because he knows that this war will continue until he says the war is going to stop. | ||
| And he knows this because President Biden has reiterated this position. | ||
| on many, many occasions. | ||
| And Zelensky has that, and he will continue to fight and chew through United States resources until the United States administration says enough. | ||
| Ben, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| How do they find all your reporting of this, all the stories you're linking to, sir? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. Well, it's my Getter account, primarily. | ||
| And my profile there, my surname, at Harnwell. | ||
| But I'll also make a mention of the newsletter where I write an article summarising what's going on in Europe. | ||
| That's not on my data feed. | ||
| It's exclusive material, an original material for the newsletter. | ||
| So folks who haven't subscribed to the newsletter, they need to do that, and they can do that on warroom.org. | ||
| And I've got an article coming out, I think, in the next edition. | ||
| By the way, your exclusive content has just been extraordinary. | ||
| I did go over a million followers on Getter last night. | ||
| I'll make sure that I follow you. | ||
| I'll make sure I throw you some more followers because your site is incredible and your insights are amazing. | ||
| That's why we're very fortunate, Ben, to have you in Rome as the tip of the spear of our international coverage. | ||
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Thanks so much, Steve. God bless. | |
| Thank you, sir. We are risking in the early years of this Third World War such a potential catastrophe. | ||
| Think about it. We have never ceded to even an ally, much less a nation that's not an ally, and Ukraine is not an ally. | ||
| Kind of Damocles sword over ourselves. | ||
| That with the long-range missiles from the British, the Ukrainians' maniacal focus on getting back their territory, this thing could metastasize. | ||
| An offensive capability into Russia could metastasize this conflict beyond all control. | ||
| And that's why this is so dangerous. | ||
| And quite frankly, that's why the funding's got to be cut off, not just for the debt ceiling negotiations. | ||
| It's got to be cut off. Okay, we're gonna be back at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning. | ||
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