May 15, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| And the big problem for us in the media with dealing with Trump is that we haven't really quite figured out how to do it yet. | ||
| He still has us. | ||
| We haven't laid a glove on him. | ||
| Yeah, well, you know, it's interesting. | ||
| Obviously, CNN came under fierce criticism after the town hall meeting. | ||
| But since that time, you've had Jack Schaefer at Politico saying, hey, just stop whining. | ||
| We've got to see this guy. | ||
| You've written a column that I'm going to read in a second saying the same thing. | ||
| Also, Maureen Dowd's latest column for The New York Times is titled, No Playing Ostrich with Trump. | ||
| And in it, Maureen says this, the town hall was enlightening and frightening, but we needed that reminder to be on full alert because Trump is not just unhinged and dangerous extremists. | ||
| He is also a cunning and dominating insurgent. | ||
| The argument that the media should ignore Trump and keep him under a bushel basket is ridiculous. | ||
| You can't extinguish Trump by not talking to him. | ||
| He's always going to find a platform. | ||
| President Biden needs to see what he's up against. | ||
| There are only so many times Biden can say, come on, man, in a debate. | ||
| Biden's team has been blithely underestimating the opponent that something Jen Psaki suggested earlier today. | ||
| The cascading indictments allow Trump to play the guilt-dipped martyr on an even larger scale. | ||
| The task is to challenge Trump and expose him, not to put our fingers in our ears and sing la la la. | ||
| And you know, Joe, it's interesting. | ||
| I'm going to read part of your excellent column in a minute. | ||
| But it seems to me we have the criticism followed by the false choice, which was you can either hide your head in the sand or have events like the CNN town hall meeting. | ||
| You say there's a middle ground. | ||
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What is it? Well, I think we have to be a lot smarter about how we handle this and maybe a lot less politically correct. | |
| Caitlin Collins is an excellent journalist, but it was like having Donald Trump interviewed by his daughter. | ||
| I think it would be much more psychologically interesting if we had a father figure, because as you know, Joe, Fred Trump was the most important figure in Donald Trump's life. | ||
| And he was an authoritarian. | ||
| He was a tough guy. | ||
| And, you know, we need to have Someone interviewing Trump, and we need to be more authoritative when we interview him. | ||
| We need to be able to say things like, you can't really believe that, can you? | ||
| No one's done that yet. | ||
| No one's done that in a long time. | ||
| And I think that I was critical of CNN in the piece that I wrote, but I could be equally critical of the other networks as well. | ||
| In a way, the guy who really knew how to do this was Roger Ailes. | ||
| And if you look at the debates that Fox staged back in the Ailes days, The anchors, people like Chris Wallace, people like Megyn Kelly, were really well prepared, and they took heavy bites out of Trump's butt. | ||
| I want to ask you, Joe, just about the tactics, because the sober and just kind of down-the-middle journalism is something a lot of people call for or they say they want. | ||
| I think on some level, not successfully, that's what CNN was attempting to do in that town hall. | ||
| And it didn't work because they treated Trump like a normal person. | ||
| So when you think about tactics or the next town hall or the next interview, do you think they should be calling him out in the moment? | ||
| Should they be kind of pushing back on him in the moment in something more aggressive than fact-checking? | ||
| Or how do you think the next journalist who interviews him should approach it? | ||
| Well, first of all, this is nothing against Caitlin Collins. | ||
| She has been a really tough White House correspondent who didn't back down from Trump in this. | ||
| But we have to think more carefully about the kind of questions we ask him. | ||
| We have to be prepared when he lies, not to say, well, you said, but to show a clip of him saying the exact opposite. | ||
| We have to be prepared, and we have to be very candid about the threat that this guy poses. | ||
| Very candid about the threat. | ||
| Okay, okay. Did I mention that the primary is over? | ||
| It's Monday, 15 May, in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| And there... | ||
| You're seeing now the culmination. | ||
| The thing was on Wednesday night, was it? | ||
| Wednesday or Thursday night? Wednesday night, I think. | ||
| Now we're five or six days, and today they're having the complete meltdown. | ||
| Who's your daddy? | ||
| Right? Who's your daddy? | ||
| Trump's your daddy. He owns you right now. | ||
| Jen Psaki up there with the suffragette. | ||
| Got to get the suffragette white. | ||
| Got to have the symbolism. | ||
| Okay, let me just make sure we break this down for a second. | ||
| In war, there's three phases to war. | ||
| Phase one, take the moral high ground because you have to have people that will come to your cause and Right? | ||
| And rally to your cause that are prepared to give all. | ||
| So you have to take the moral high ground, number one. | ||
| Number two is total and complete destruction of one's enemy. | ||
| So there's just a smoking pit where they once were. | ||
| Like, look at Nazi Germany in the 1945 or Imperial Japan after the firebombing of Tokyo and then the nuclear weapons, okay? | ||
| Then you fill said smoking pit with your stuff, your values, your constructs. | ||
| That's victory. | ||
| Right there, what you're seeing, and this is where, it's not dangerous, it's reality. | ||
| As we head into now a jacked up phase of information warfare about the As I say, there's no compromise. | ||
| There's no compromise. | ||
| One side's going to win. | ||
| One side's going to lose. | ||
| And don't take it from Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Look on Morning Joe. And Morning Joe doesn't have a big audience. | ||
| President Trump's always dumping it for the size of their audience. | ||
| But it is the conventional wisdom of the apparatus. | ||
| Every morning, you know, Morning Mika, excuse me, Morning Mika right there. | ||
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Morning Mika with my own Morning Mika mug, okay? | |
| Morning Mika lays out the conventional wisdom of what the apparatus thinks. | ||
| And here this morning, on Monday, the 15th of May in the year of our Lord, 2023, what, 15 or 16 months before the, or longer than that, I guess a year and a half, thereabouts, from the general election. | ||
| They're already saying, we haven't laid a glove on him. | ||
| That was the quote. We have not laid a glove on him. | ||
| They've been at this, ladies and gentlemen, since, what, the 17th of June of 2015? | ||
| What are we now, getting into the eighth year of this? | ||
| We have not laid a glove on him. | ||
| We have not laid a glove on him. | ||
| Look what they said right there. | ||
| We have to come about this. | ||
| And here's the irony. | ||
| The irony. They need... | ||
| To rely upon the patriarchy to try to take down Trump. | ||
| That's what they're calling for. We need a Fred Trump type authoritarian figure that he would look up to and he would fear. | ||
| And we got to play clips when he's talking. | ||
| Do you understand when I say they're the enemy of the people? | ||
| Do you get now what I mean by that? | ||
| Is that an independent free journalism? | ||
| Is that a media of the Walter Cronkite, Edward R. Murrow, Eric Severus, as bad as that was, as slanted as that was? | ||
| It's not your grandparents, your parents and grandparents, no. | ||
| When I say that that is our enemy and not the Democratic Party, the radical socialist Marxism Democratic Party, they're just apparatchiks. | ||
| They're just movable items, the AOCs and all this. | ||
| They're just movable set pieces or pieces on a chessboard. | ||
| The media is more than the propaganda arm because they understand it in a modern society, a modern culture. | ||
| That communications and in media is everything. | ||
| Marshall McLuhan told us this. | ||
| Tihar Deschardins told us this, right? | ||
| This is the modern world. | ||
| This is modernity. And right there you saw it in his ugly, stark... | ||
| So don't ever say, oh, abandoning these radicals. | ||
| They're trying to do this or trying to do that. | ||
| Right there you saw the weaponization of platforms that have taken hundreds of billions of dollars of investment to build. | ||
| And they're coming at you. | ||
| They're coming at you because Trump is just what stands in the way between you and them. | ||
| And that's why they hate him. | ||
| I'm going to run the sprockets off that today and make sure everybody understands this. | ||
| We're going to deconstruct it. Because right there you see, in fact, we're going to go to the border because this is another thing with information warfare is up there. | ||
| Bottom line. Let's cut to the chase, Bannon. | ||
| You know, you're starting to get, you know, you're starting to get too, you're quoting Marshall McLuhan and T.R. D. Chardin, so you're getting a little esoteric for me on a Monday morning when I haven't had my third shot of coffee or my first field of greens to get jacked up for the day. | ||
| This is their, this is, to cut to the chase, they're coming and they're coming hard. | ||
| And the, and you're winning. | ||
| You're winning. If Trump, if they didn't know that Trump was the legitimate president of the United States and they didn't know that the people have empowered him, empowered him to stand on that stage and take it. | ||
| And as I said, to own the room, to have a presence that comes in there and owns it. | ||
| If it had not just been a flop, they would have buried this guy. | ||
| They would have buried this guy. | ||
| And why I say the primary is over, not to get too political, but just look at DeSantis and Iowa. | ||
| That's not happening. Just not. | ||
| And they know it. | ||
| That's why they're going to go to extraordinary measures. | ||
| Think about it for a second. Just step back and think about this for one second. | ||
| Everything they have thrown at Trump, from the lies about Russia, to two impeachments, to two impeachments, to indicted on this nonsensical crap in New York City, to have four or five other indictments that lose last week, which they thought was, to have four or five indictments coming out, grand juries here, this, putting him in bankruptcy, doing it. | ||
| Think about it for a second. | ||
| No person in American history, no individual in American history, none, nada, the null set, has ever had the apparatus come at him like Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Nobody. That's a demonstrable fact. | ||
| We have not laid a glove on him. | ||
| Unquote. And by the way, that was Joe Klein. | ||
| Joe Klein's one of the smartest guys left. | ||
| He's the guy that wrote the book Anonymous in the Clinton years. | ||
| He's one of the most perceptive Political analysts and writers and intellectuals out there. | ||
| That's where they had him on today. And they had Jen Psaki. | ||
| They had the whole thing. And Morning Joe and, of course, the whole meltdown on Morning Mika. | ||
| This is how desperate they are. | ||
| Do you know how much it hurts Mika and Jen Psaki to sit there and listen to and know that you've got to have the patriarchy? | ||
| What's going to save us We need a father figure. | ||
| We need an authoritarian. We need to get Fred Trump. | ||
| We need to call Fred Trump back from the grave. | ||
| We need the ghost of Trump's childhood. | ||
| This is how these people think. | ||
| It's all this psychological mumbo-jumbo. | ||
| Think about it for a second. | ||
| Do you think you've broken them? | ||
| Do you think Trump has broken them on the world stage? | ||
| And they're sitting there with this bizarro fantasy? | ||
| Let's go into the deep recesses of Trump's mind. | ||
| Let's go into his mind and bring back his father and put his father on stage. | ||
| Yes. Yes. | ||
| Not a good look, folks. | ||
| You're pushing this radical deconstruction of the family, the destruction of the American family, weaponizing children. | ||
| Why? Because the evils of the patriarchy. | ||
| I said this a couple of years ago during the Golden Globes when Oprah was up there. | ||
| The patriarchy is the enemy. | ||
| The Judeo-Christian West, that's personified by the patriarchy. | ||
| Oh, my God. But now they're saying, and they understand that Trump is, the primary's over. | ||
| Trump's going to win the election. | ||
| Joe Biden, their quote, doesn't know what's coming for him. | ||
| And Donald J. Trump is going to return as the 47th president of these United States, and he's going to set things right. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got an all-star lineup today, including, wait for it, Carrie Lake and MTG. We're coming in guns blazing next on the border with Ben Burquam, Todd Benzman, and Wade Miller. | ||
| All of it. We're going to find out about the invasion of the United States of America next in the War Room. | ||
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Cause we're taking down the CCP! | |
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there's no more Let's take down the CCP! | ||
| They have all... | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb Okay, from the sublime to the less sublime. | ||
| I'm going to come back and talk about that opening segment again because this is quite important. | ||
| This is signal, not noise. | ||
| I'm going to go to more signal, and that's about the invasion of your country and the information warfare. | ||
| Oh, they opened the borders, but nobody showed up. | ||
| That could not be a bigger lie. | ||
| I want to go to, first we've got Ben Burquam in Yuma, Arizona. | ||
| Then we're going to go to Todd, who's just back from the border. | ||
| And by the way, Todd Benzman's Amazing reporting and videos is one of the key reasons this thing has been shut down to a small degree. | ||
| Ben Burquamp, give me a report. | ||
| Give me a quick and dirty on Yuma, and I'm going to come back to your brother. | ||
| Hey, Steve, we got in here late last night. | ||
| And just to kind of test the water, see what the pulse was down here, if it was continuing or not, if Mayorkas, by some amazing feat, actually was telling the truth that the illegal crossings were going to stop. | ||
| And it not only didn't stop, it was worse last night than I've ever seen it. | ||
| We had hundreds coming over. | ||
| And what's interesting is where they're coming from now. | ||
| The majority of the people that I interviewed last night were coming from Moldovia, from... | ||
| Sudan and from Egypt now. | ||
| They're coming from all over Africa and Egypt now. | ||
| And I have a couple IDs here. | ||
| We have one from Ghana, one from Nigeria. | ||
| But the thing that got me the most last night was this. | ||
| This is a bag tag from the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| They're so backed up, they just simply leave the tags out. | ||
| They had a bag of them left down by the wall. | ||
| So if you showed up here and there was no Border Patrol here, you could tag your own bag through the Homeland Security and just wait for your Uber Border Patrol pickup to come pick you up. | ||
| Nothing's changed here. | ||
| It's only gotten worse. My beloved brother, who's one of the smartest guys I know, actually gave me the concept. | ||
| He said it's concierge illegal. | ||
| It's concierge invasion. | ||
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That's it. You've got to give the audience this again. | |
| You've got to give it again. Hold it. You put a bag. | ||
| You've got snacks and a phone waiting for you. | ||
| You literally tag your bag and they'll come and pick it up? | ||
| Please don't tell me that. Ben, you're just trying to jerk my chain off. | ||
| Give us that again. Hold it. | ||
| Stop. Give it to me again. Ben, when you're going to have to wait, get another cup of coffee. | ||
| You've got to give me this again. What is it? | ||
| I shouldn't be laughing. | ||
| I should be crying right now. | ||
| This is how secure our border is. | ||
| Border Patrol, I didn't even know Homeland Security had bag tags. | ||
| It's like you said, concierge service. | ||
| So you showed up right behind me. | ||
| There is a bag of them on top of the little post over there where the wall ends. | ||
| So you simply walk around the wall. | ||
| You grab your bag tag. | ||
| You tag your own bag. | ||
| You have to sign it here. | ||
| So good thing, you know, owner's signature. | ||
| We got that part of it. | ||
| And then when Border Patrol shows up, you hand them your bag. | ||
| That way you make sure you get it when you're handed off to the NGO or wherever else they take you. | ||
| This is how insane, this is how secure our border is. | ||
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That illegal aliens get to tag their own bags. | |
| But Burquam, it's the only place in Arizona you're going to have signature verification. | ||
| We don't have signature verification when you vote, but you've got to have to get your bag from the concierge service. | ||
| Steve, I'm going to challenge you on that. No, no, no. | ||
| You don't have signature verification here either. | ||
| It's a continuation of that. | ||
| Because that's why they dropped their IDs. | ||
| That's why they dropped their passports. | ||
| So you can make up anything you want. | ||
| So whatever signature you want to put on this thing, Homeland Security says, we'll take it. | ||
| We'll take it! It's just like our elections! | ||
| This is not funny, but we've got to show you the absurdity of it because your tax dollars, your tax money are paying for, now we've turned Border Patrol into a concierge service. | ||
| You can't tag a bag at an airport and guarantee it shows up, right? | ||
| But man, you get the U.S. taxpayer to pay for concierge service at the border, it's sick. | ||
| Stay right there, Burquam. Todd Bensman, you've laid out exactly one man. | ||
| Has laid out the entire thing, and that's Benzman. | ||
| Here's what he did. He told you about the quote-unquote humane pathways that inside of Mexico they're processing. | ||
| This is all a well-organized, orderly process to get as many in as possible, as quickly in as possible. | ||
| And your videos showing the mad rush was the way, and I know this now. | ||
| We're going to get Wade Miller on here for a second from the Center for Renewing America. | ||
| It's so freaked out Abbott. | ||
| He got mad because he got found, as they say at West Point. | ||
| He got found for lying. | ||
| Todd Benzman, give me your assessment. | ||
| I know you're back. You haven't slept. | ||
| Give us your assessment. Okay. | ||
| Well, first of all, back just real quickly on the video that Ben has shot down there in Yuma. | ||
| That is very disturbing. | ||
| Those countries are terrorist countries. | ||
| Countries of terrorism concern, national security concern, Egypt, Sudan, Somalia, those people are not vettable. | ||
| You can't call Sudan and ask for an intel share. | ||
| And the Egyptians aren't going to have a whole lot either on their Muslim Brotherhood people. | ||
| And I want to point out also that an Afghan on the FBI's terrorism watch list was just caught, picked up in the San Diego sector. | ||
| That traffic right there should send a chill down every American's spine. | ||
| Okay, so having said that, what's happening now is we are in a bit of a pause. | ||
| There are thousands, tens of thousands of migrants who are trying to figure out where the loopholes are in the new Title VIII expedited removal. | ||
| There are huge loopholes there. | ||
| So it doesn't matter if I tell you what they are. | ||
| They're not going to learn about it through you. | ||
| The NGOs are down in the camps. | ||
| I ran into NGO representatives in Reynosa who are spreading out through the Haitian camps, handing out information and talking to huge groups, surrounded by huge groups, explaining our new system to them. | ||
| The main loopholes, and they will find this sooner or later, are for family groups that they can come in and the Mayorkas administration will not detain them for this supposed expedited removal. | ||
| They can claim asylum and then appeal whatever decline or whatever, and then they'll be released. | ||
| So look for family units. | ||
| I'm looking for it. They're looking for it. | ||
| Everybody's looking to see the first ones that get through, and then they will come. | ||
| There are other loopholes. | ||
| The new regimen does not apply to unaccompanied minors. | ||
| 350,000 already have poured through under the Title 42 loophole made for them, cut out for them. | ||
| That will remain unaccompanied minors. | ||
| It's a wide open ramp. | ||
| The other thing that you should just keep in mind is when I was coming back from Matamoros over the Brownsville Bridge, there was at least a hundred yard long line of CBP-1 entry permit holders who were, and that's the longest I've ever seen. | ||
| They've widened the aperture for this other kind of like a pre-legalization that we keep talking about on this program. | ||
| The numbers of those people are going to be in the thousands, and they're just handing them out like candy right now. | ||
| There is a 20-state lawsuit against that program, specifically humanitarian parole, and at any moment, a federal judge in the Fifth Circuit is going to very likely strike that down. | ||
| When and if that happens, they're not even going to have that pressure cooker release for steam to release the steam. | ||
| So that's something to watch for too. | ||
| We're just in a bit of a pause. | ||
| Those people that Ben is filming right there are kind of like nationalities that don't fit a profile where they can easily be expedited, removed to Sudan or Egypt. | ||
| So they're just gonna get right in. | ||
| All those people are gonna get right in and that's why they're coming in. | ||
| Yeah. Hang on one second. | ||
| I want to go also to, because I'm going to have Carrie Lake on here in a second, and Wade. | ||
| Talk to me about why was Saturday and the footage you took on Friday and Saturday so explosive? | ||
| And one of the reasons it shut down is that Texas Rangers and DPS, Department of Public Safety, have filled the gap because of your footage. | ||
| Tell us about that footage. Why was it so important? | ||
| Why did Abbott lose it? | ||
| It is true. The footage that I took was all week last week. | ||
| They were just pouring in just thousands at Matamoros. | ||
| It was a huge, ripped open, gaping hole for them to just pour in. | ||
| Thousands and thousands, thousands, 10,000, 20,000 got through there in the last few weeks. | ||
| And when I got there, I was the only reporter. | ||
| There was nobody there. It was just empty. | ||
| And so I started filming them cross. | ||
| And as I was filming, I was narrating, there is nobody, there are no uniforms on the other side to stop this. | ||
| And they were just clawing, they were storming up the riverbank. | ||
| And I'm told that Abbott saw that footage and got on the horn with people, deputies, and ordered that right there, what you're seeing right there, that footage right there is the first footage that I know of, where they just shut it down. | ||
| They put their brawn out there right on the riverbank and said, thou shalt not pass. | ||
| And it was hundreds of yards long they were doing that. | ||
| They wouldn't let them pass. | ||
| Now, why they didn't do this two years ago and a year ago, I couldn't tell you. | ||
| They didn't do it. I'll tell you because they didn't see your footage called Abbott a liar. | ||
| That's why he was exposed of allowing Texas to be invaded. | ||
| That's why he finally had it up in his grill. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. That footage right there then went to the White House. | ||
| They were enraged by that footage. | ||
| And now the administration is threatening to have the Department of Justice investigate whether it's legal. | ||
| I don't think that thing is over. | ||
| So keep your eye on that. | ||
| But it's very effective. | ||
| It was absolutely effective. | ||
| I circulated among the immigrants... | ||
| I circulated among the immigrants for two days after that and they were all like, we would go, except why bother? | ||
| We can't get through them. Immigration officials, Mexican immigration on the other side, fully attributed the shutdown in that sector to those troopers and the National Guard on that side. | ||
| It just shows that this can be done. | ||
| One last thing. In the two and a half years that I've been covering this, I've written the book on this border crisis. | ||
| There is no other book about this. | ||
| I've never seen anybody stop immigrants like that. | ||
| It's always been a red carpet welcome wagon. | ||
| That was really unusual. Hang on one second. | ||
| I'm just going to keep you through the break and come back, talk about the book, How to Get to Your Rights. | ||
| You just hang with me, Todd. We have Wade Miller. | ||
| We got Ben Berkwam down in Yuma. | ||
| We got D-Carrie Lake coming on. | ||
| It's packed this morning. | ||
| Got MTG later, Tiffany Justice. | ||
| Strap in. You're in the war room. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Okay, um... | ||
| Welcome. Todd Benzman had to bounce. | ||
| We're going to get him back later this morning. | ||
| We're definitely going to get him this afternoon. | ||
| A lot going on. Kerry Lake is joining us. | ||
| Is Kerry up? Kerry, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
| But Kerry, I've got to have two predicates. | ||
| Carrie, I want you to watch. | ||
| We're going to go to Yuma, Arizona, your beloved Yuma, in the state that you're actually the legitimate governor of. | ||
| And then I want to bring in Wade Miller from the center. | ||
| Let me go to Yuma. I got Ben Burquam and I got the supervisor, Jonathan Lyons, is with us. | ||
| Ben, can you and Jonathan give us an update again of what's actually going on here? | ||
| Yeah, and real quick to what Todd was talking about, the only reason we had a few places where illegals weren't crossing in massive numbers was because of that National Guard DPS presence. | ||
| Down here in Arizona, it is free-for-all, wide open. | ||
| By the way, shout out to Carrie Lake. | ||
| We love you. Supervisor, talk to us about where we're standing and did Secretary Marcus lie to us? | ||
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So about 15 months ago, Secretary Mayorkas was here. | |
| We were meeting at Yuma Sector Border Patrol. | ||
| He was here with the National Chief of Border Patrol, and he made a commitment to us, to the mayor and myself, that he would close nine of the 11 gaps that we have here in Yuma, Arizona. | ||
| And to date, construction began on four of them a few months ago, but they're still wide open. | ||
| And, you know, going back two years, average of 20 to 30 a month. | ||
| And now we're seeing, you know, two weeks ago, our averages were about 300. | ||
| We spiked per day, not per month. | ||
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Per day, per day. | |
| We spiked at 1,500 a day last week, the day before Title 42 was set to expire. | ||
| And now we're seeing an average of 300 a day. | ||
| So the averages are down from last week. | ||
| But overall, it's still 10 times more a day than what we were seeing in a month. | ||
| It went from $300 to $600. | ||
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Sorry, yes. Absolutely. | |
| Supervisor, let me just ask you, when the Judiciary Committee came down for the hearing, I think what shocked the country is like your health system. | ||
| I think the hospital is $24 million in a thing. | ||
| You guys have limited resources, either from the tax base in Yuma, the citizens of Yuma, where the state of Arizona can kick in. | ||
| So walk us through that. Walk us through the burden and the crushing burden on the hardworking citizens in Yuma So, you know, we are a very tiny community. | ||
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We have a limited number of transportation out of Yuma. | |
| We've got five flights a day. | ||
| We've got three buses. So first and foremost, anybody released into the community was already a burden. | ||
| And then when Border Patrol had a 220 % to a 300 % overcapacity in their tilt-up, and people were walking off of the border. | ||
| They were showing up directly to some of our shelters. | ||
| They were showing up To the Mexican consul's office. | ||
| They were showing up to the sheriff's office. | ||
| And that became a significant burden. | ||
| I am the chairman of the Yuma Community Food Bank, and so we were having to scramble to supply a lot of our current NGOs here in Yuma. | ||
| Nothing that has popped up. | ||
| It was just the people that take care of the Yuma community. | ||
| Vice chairman of Amberley's Place, it's a women and children's shelter, where we had Young women 12 and up coming in because they had been violated they'd been raped in this journey coming across the border so we've seen a little bit of everything our hospital we were receiving 911 phone calls directly to the border where they were picking them up and taking to the hospital even before going into Border Patrol custody so the Hospital did an audit, | ||
| and they found an audible number of over 26 million, and that was as of a few months ago where we testified to the Judiciary Committee. | ||
| I also had Mr. | ||
| Comer come out on the Oversight Committee a few months before that, and he didn't have anybody from the other side of the aisle joining him. | ||
| I'm grateful for the magnifying glass that they brought to Yuma to kind of demonstrate to the nation what happens in these smaller communities. | ||
| John, hang on for one second. | ||
| You stay right there. | ||
| Let me go to Wade Miller at the Center for Renewing America. | ||
| Wade, walk me through that concept that the Center came up with and you guys put together for Arizona that Ducey actually signed something, or the Attorney General, I think it was, signed something, and Abbott looks like he's installed. | ||
| What is it about these states in invasion that they can actually do to repel this? | ||
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Sure. So if the President of the United States is failing to uphold Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution, then Article 1, Section 10, Clause 3 kicks in. | |
| And governors of states have the inherent authority to invoke that, which gets you immediately out of the immigration law silo. | ||
| You're now in a constitutional silo. | ||
| And you have broad authorities, which courts have even said they can't dictate to states how these authorities are used. | ||
| They're non-justiciable. | ||
| And therefore, governors can declare an invasion. | ||
| They can declare that their state is in imminent danger. | ||
| And they can set policies in place to actually address that threat, which, again, are not subject to things like Arizona v. | ||
| U.S. and other court precedent, which have in the past limited the ability of states to defend themselves. | ||
| And so when the administration says that we're down 50 % in crossings and whatever, of course, that's nonsense. | ||
| The cartels are slowing things down to assess this situation and to then reroute those people. | ||
| And even if numbers were down 500%, we would be in a severe crisis on the border still. | ||
| And then, of course, Governor Lake had put in place a lot of the aspects of our idea in her campaign. | ||
| She had the best border security plan of any governor in the history of the United States as a candidate. | ||
| And what we're seeing right now is elements of her plan now starting to be used in Texas in very small part, and we're already seeing an immediate impact. | ||
| So when Carrie Lake is put in place as governor, because I absolutely believe that her election was stolen, and I watched it on, you know, the day of the election, and I was just aghast at what was actually happening and what was allowed to happen, you know, when she is governor and when she fully implements this plan, She will show the other states how this can actually be done, unless Governor Abbott continues to move forward and do this first. | ||
| And we, of course, fully encourage him. | ||
| But in large part, Governor Abbott is doing right now is due to the fact that Carrie Lake elevated this into a national debate and helped make the invasion declaration concept a national conversation. | ||
| This is what, and this is what the good folks in Yuma needed, and I say this, let's bring in Kerry Lake, and obviously War Room, cover this. | ||
| People say election integrity, election, if you looked at it from the outside, election integrity was a huge issue. | ||
| Do not get me wrong, and do not get me wrong about Arizona 2020 and then 2020. | ||
| However, if you followed this from the people in Arizona, if you looked at it, Kerry, it was really about border security. | ||
| Carrie Lake, in fact, Carrie, you actually said the second your hand went off the Bible after you took the oath, tell us what you were going to do, because you bought into this program, you were the first to buy into it, and he's right, to elevate it, and then that in itself, | ||
| that's why the comers of the world and judiciary said, we have to start going to these border communities down in places like Texas and down in places like Arizona, so the citizens in Yuma Have a national stage, a national platform to actually make their case of how they're the frontliner. | ||
| They're getting crushed in every aspect, whether it's education, public safety, health care, or whatever. | ||
| Carrie Lake. It's just devastating what's happening in Arizona. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| We saw this coming. | ||
| We were sounding the alarm bells. | ||
| I had my amazing border policy called Defend Arizona. | ||
| And I thank Wade for talking about it and recognizing how transformative our border policy was. | ||
| We don't need to rely on Joe. | ||
| We can't rely on Joe Biden. | ||
| But we don't need to rely as sovereign states on the federal government when they are failing us. | ||
| In the Guarantee Clause, Article 4, Section 4, we have a constitutional right to protect our citizens from an invasion. | ||
| And that is exactly what I talked about from day one, practically, of my campaign. | ||
| As a matter of fact, I got my team together and I said, we will put together the strongest border policy. | ||
| I want to use the Constitution. | ||
| I want to use every single resource we have to secure our border. | ||
| Because I recognize that the fastest way to bring down a country is to open up the borders. | ||
| And that's exactly what's happening right now. | ||
| And frankly, Steve, I think that's why they had to steal the election from me. | ||
| They realized that on day one, immediately after taking my hand off the Bible and taking the oath of office, we were going to declare an invasion on our border and get things rolling to protect the people of Arizona. | ||
| I offered my plan to Doug Ducey when he was governor immediately, and I said, please implement this. | ||
| You can even take my name off of it and put your name on it. | ||
| I don't look for the credit. | ||
| I don't want the credit. | ||
| I just want a secure border. | ||
| And I offered it to Texas as well, but they didn't do it in time. | ||
| And now we are in a complete panic, being overrun at our borders, and now these governors are finally going, oh, well, maybe I can do something. | ||
| Yeah. The takeaway is when Abbott was shamed last week, and particularly Friday and Saturday in the show we broke it, is that he then implemented this. | ||
| Not talking about an elite task force. | ||
| This was like crowd control right at the border. | ||
| He came in with what Wade Miller and the team over at Center for Renewing America had been talking about from day one. | ||
| He implemented it. That's one of the reasons you see not the panic at the border you have. | ||
| Kerry, just two things. Number one, you're the first guy. | ||
| You specifically went after the cartels about designated them as a terrorist organization against folks in Arizona. | ||
| But what was that border? And people say, oh, they remember these huge rallies with Kerry Lake. | ||
| It looked like a presidential campaign. | ||
| He had things all over. | ||
| The most impressive... | ||
| The first thing, the event I ever saw in your campaign was the forum you did. | ||
| It wasn't a town hall. It was like a forum down on the border where you had the parents of people that had been killed and murdered and you had all these tremendous executives and law enforcement officers. | ||
| Tell us about that. Yeah, we went down and did a border tour and a lot of that was to show the world what's happening in Arizona. | ||
| We brought down some of the other candidates. | ||
| Many of them, all of them, supported our plans for the border. | ||
| And we wanted to educate the news media because the media hasn't been covering it. | ||
| I mean, they've been just flat out lying to people about what's happening. | ||
| Now I think they're being forced to cover it because it's gonna be real hard to hide what's happening. | ||
| When you have hundreds of thousands of people pouring across our border. | ||
| And let me remind you, Steve, we talked to Jonathan Lyons. | ||
| I saw that Ben was interviewing him. | ||
| Ask them about their food banks down there. | ||
| The shelves are bare. | ||
| Where do you think that food's going? | ||
| It's going to people who've come here illegally. | ||
| The hotels are becoming full. | ||
| The federal government is paying to put these illegal people up. | ||
| The airfare, they're providing airfare. | ||
| Every time I go to Sky Harbor Airport in Phoenix, I see a line of 40 or 50 people here illegally given free airfare to go through our airports and go to a city near you all around this country. | ||
| They're given free iPhones, they're given work permits, and they're given medical care. | ||
| I know a lot of Americans right now who can't afford any of that stuff. | ||
| And we're handing it out like it's free candy to people coming across the border illegally. | ||
| Everybody who steps foot across that border is committing a crime. | ||
| They are criminals and we need to make sure we deport them immediately. | ||
| We don't want a court case for them in 12 or 13 years. | ||
| We want to get them on buses and send them back across the border, not to another city away from our border. | ||
| Even the mainstream media, look, the aspiration to come to the United States is a powerful aspiration. | ||
| We're not denigrating that. | ||
| But that is not what the asylum system is. | ||
| We have an immigration system. | ||
| You've got to take a number and get in line. | ||
| And quite frankly, just to come here for a better life. | ||
| I'm all for legal immigration. | ||
| I'll take the people most opposed to what we're seeing at the border. | ||
| The people most appalled by it are those who came through the legal way. | ||
| They worked through the system. | ||
| They did everything they were supposed to do. | ||
| They did it right. And they're watching this and saying, wait a minute, this cheapens what I did. | ||
| This devalues what I did. | ||
| And this devalues our citizenship. | ||
| And frankly, it will destabilize our country and we will be in a real big state of hurt. | ||
| We're already in it, but it's only going to get worse. | ||
| Kerry, if you can just hang on for a second. | ||
| We'll take a short break. We got Ben Burquam in Yuma. | ||
| Yuma, one of these great, small, hardworking communities. | ||
| Absolutely been crushed by this. | ||
| Remember, every state's a border state. | ||
| Every town's a border town. | ||
| But the ones right there at the border from the Rio Grande Valley to South Texas to Southern Arizona are absolutely being crushed. | ||
| The citizens, the American citizens, Hispanic American citizens being crushed. | ||
| Short break. Wade Miller also at the Center for Renewing America. | ||
| We're packed today, and we're a little backed up. | ||
| We're going to get to it all. Short break. | ||
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| Okay, we're a little jammed up here. | ||
| Let me go to Ben. Supervisor Lines, we'll get you back on, but I want to know, how do people get to social media and find out more about the story of the brave folks in Yuma? | ||
| We want to make sure everybody in this country has the opportunity to access all the information, what's happening down there to you folks. | ||
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I'm on Facebook at Jonathan Lyons. | |
| People can message me there directly or through Instagram if they'd like to know. | ||
| I've given a few hundred tours to elected officials from all of the United States. | ||
| And Steve, the one message that they had for me is that this is not a Yuma problem. | ||
| This is not a border problem. | ||
| This is a national problem because the narcotics that are coming across and the illegal activity and the counterfeiting, we haven't even discussed that much, That's being intercepted is having a tremendous effect on our nation's economy as it has here locally, where it has burdened us with a challenge that the federal government should be taking care of. | ||
| This is Biden's border policy. | ||
| This is Mayorkas' border policy. | ||
| I'd like everybody to know and understand that elections have consequences. | ||
| And we're dealing with the consequences of a policy that allows people to come here. | ||
| We've had, you know, since the time that Mayorkas told me we were going to close nine of the 11 gaps in Yuma, we've had over 350,000 people come through these areas. | ||
| That's pretty significant. | ||
| And that has a tremendous impact on all of us. | ||
| Humanitarian and, you know, the illegal aspects of it. | ||
| Supervisor Alliance, the country has your back, and specifically Yuma, so we'll figure out how to get more attention to this, but really appreciate you coming on, sir. | ||
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And it was nice to hear from Kerry today. | |
| Thank you, Steve. Thank you, brother. | ||
| Ben, real quickly, can you give us, I just want to make sure Kerry's heard this. | ||
| I need to hear the concierge service at the border, sir. | ||
| Yeah, and real quick, I think I misspoke and said Moldovia. | ||
| It was actually Mauritania. It was one of the countries that came through last night. | ||
| Africa, Mauritania. And I also want to show you this. | ||
| Turkish Airways, somebody tried to rip this up. | ||
| They went from Istanbul, Turkey, to Barcelona, Spain, to Bogota, Colombia, and now are in America because of the policies. | ||
| But this is what Joe Biden and Secretary Marokas think of As securing our border, Homeland Security, this is one of the bag tags. | ||
| They have a bag of them back there that when you come across the border, you can simply tag your own bag as you're waiting for your Border Patrol Uber to come pick you up. | ||
| And Steve, the critical part of this is the difference for Arizona. | ||
| If Cary Lake rightfully was in office versus right now with Hobbs basically doing absolutely nothing, the citizens of Arizona are being destroyed because of what's happening. | ||
| And if Cary Lake was here, that would stop. | ||
| If we had a governor that actually cared about the people and the state, that would stop. | ||
| It's just an absolute tragedy what happened here. | ||
| Perfect. Ben, you hang around. | ||
| I'm going to get you the second hour. Wade, I need people to understand this thing that you guys came up with, Center for Renewing America, America Renewal. | ||
| You're the executive director. | ||
| Can you give us all the touch points of how people get to this analysis? | ||
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Yes, so we have a full legal memo that kind of outlines the legal argument for this at Center for Renewing America website. | |
| And, of course, we'll make sure that we put that out on social media sometime today if people want to read through that to fully understand it. | ||
| We've also written products to kind of debunk some of the arguments that are made against it, some of the legal arguments about Section 242 and what the DOJ might do to state agents. | ||
| None of those things are correct. | ||
| The arguments about how it's not an invasion, of course, that's nonsensical, and we've written at great length why it is an invasion, both legally and definitionally, and all aspects of it are. | ||
| So we've got a lot of really good products on our website that walk people through this, including a plan of how you would implement it. | ||
| However, as I said earlier, if people really want to see how a state would implement this plan, go look at Governor Kerry Lake or should be Governor Kerry Lake's plan on how to implement this at the state level. | ||
| And if Texas would start using Kerry Lake's plan right now, you would continue to see numbers go way down and the crisis would essentially abate very quickly if that were enacted as actual policy wide scale. | ||
| Wade, thank you very much. | ||
| Great conference this weekend. | ||
| We'll get into more of that as we go through the week, but fantastic and great work. | ||
| This is actual stuff. | ||
| That's why you've seen this thing in Texas. | ||
| Thank you, Wade. Fantastic. Kerry, is this the first thing, still the first thing you're going to do when you're rightfully placed as governor? | ||
| As the courts realize on the signature verification, it was stolen in your governor of Arizona, ma'am? | ||
| Absolutely. The very first thing. | ||
| And we're also going to work on reforming our elections. | ||
| You know, I blame Biden, a feeble, impotent leader. | ||
| I blame Mayorkas. | ||
| But you know who I really blame? | ||
| I blame the people who stole our elections and rigged our elections. | ||
| Rigged elections have consequences. | ||
| Rigged elections is what landed Joe Biden, a treasonous, corrupt person in the White House, to allow our borders to be overrun. | ||
| He pulled back a perfect border policy that President Trump had put in place, and he immediately invited the world to basically storm our borders. | ||
| It's outrageous. This is what happens when we have elections that we allow to be ripe with corruption and fraud. | ||
| We end up with the people that the American citizens didn't vote for in office. | ||
| And I blame everybody out there who says, oh, just ignore election fraud. | ||
| Move on. You're living in the past. | ||
| You cannot move on and have a secure future for America, a powerful America, if we're allowing elections to be run with corruptions and fraud. | ||
| And that's why we're fighting it. We actually have court cases this week, and we pray that the judge will give us our trial, which will begin Wednesday through Friday of this week. | ||
| How do people, where do people go to support you and where do people go now to find out what happens tonight and tomorrow in this trial? | ||
| It's huge. Well, follow me on Twitter and Getter. | ||
| You know, you can always go to Carrie Lake on Twitter and Getter and I'm on Truth Social as well. | ||
| You can go to CarrieLake.com. | ||
| If you want to help, we are really going to expand this. | ||
| We're not going to stop here. We're taking it to the Supreme Court. | ||
| You can go to SaveArizonaFund.com as well. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. We can solve these problems, by the way. | ||
| We can solve this problem by having Cary Lake as governor of Arizona. | ||
| The people in Yuma would not be getting crushed. | ||
| The people in Arizona would not be getting crushed. | ||
| Cary Lake, honored to have you on here. |
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