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WarRoom Battleground EP 291: The Regimes Failure On Border Security
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room. Battleground.
crom carmichael
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back. It's Thursday, 11 May in the year of the Lord, 2023.
A day to live in infamy because at midnight tonight, Mayorkas told us the Title 42 put in under President Trump comes off.
The invasion of the southern border.
We've had Ben Berquam up in the previous hour, Real America's Voice.
Ben is in Brownsville.
Okay, now he's in McAllen.
He started kind of at the Gulf, and he's working his way all the way to Tijuana, going through all the borders.
He'll be reporting every day. We have Turning Point USA's frontline reporter, the great investigative reporter, Savannah Hernandez, now joins us from El Paso, Texas.
Ma'am, can you give us an update on El Paso?
savanah hernandez
Sure, Steve. So, when I first got here on Tuesday, the streets were absolutely filled with migrants who, again, were sleeping on the streets for the past couple of weeks.
However, ahead of the expiration of Title 42, as we have seen media make their way over to this area, the city actually sent environmental services to come and clean up the streets so that the migrant camps Got swept yesterday morning.
On Tuesday as well, Border Patrol was asking a lot of these migrants to go willingly get processed so that way they could get their NTA papers and they could essentially be let go in the United States.
So, giving you guys an example of what we're seeing with those NTAs, we spoke to a migrant that was actually deported four times by Mexican immigration He finally made his way over here to the US. He received his notice to appear papers and he was essentially again released into the United States.
We ran into another woman.
Her notice to appear date isn't until April of 2027.
So just an idea of, again, the paperwork being given to these migrants.
Just to describe the scene as well for you, complete humanitarian crisis.
I am very glad the city did come to clean up this area because you had unused blankets, you had unused clothing, littering the ground.
You had all of these migrant camps, blankets.
The streets do smell like urine here and feces, I'll be honest with you.
It very much does seem like a biohazard.
So the city finally did come and clean up.
A local officer sharing with me as well.
This very much mirrors what happened when Joe Biden came to visit El Paso back in January to Take a peek at the border crisis, right?
The city comes, they clean everything up, the migrants get bused to shelters, they get processed, and we don't see them on the streets.
However, there are still hundreds that are coming over the border every single day.
Another thing I want to add as well is this morning, we tried to go fly our drone because there was a huge group of about 600 that had crossed over from Juarez into El Paso, and Border Patrol told us that we were only allowed to fly our drone from 10 a.m.
to 11 a.m. This was not something that they told us.
needed to be done yesterday.
So it was very interesting to me how restrictive they are being with the media as well today.
steve bannon
Savannah, you've been in some pretty dangerous places.
Do you feel safe in the streets of El Paso right now?
El Paso is one of the great cities.
We built the wall down there.
It's incredible. The people there are great.
The downtown's been rejuvenated.
It's got great hotels, great restaurants.
You see, it's a real sense of vibrancy.
Do you feel safe?
And number two, is this impacting El Paso in a negative way?
savanah hernandez
Absolutely. I've actually had many citizens from the city reach out and thank me for being here because they have expressed to me that they feel unsafe.
They don't feel safe because they don't understand who is being led into the country.
Not understand, but they're just, you know, unaware of who is being allowed to cross into the border every single day.
And if you do want me to give you an idea of the demographic that is on the ground, it is majority of single adult males From Venezuela, probably 9 out of 10 people that we've talked to down here are from Venezuela, so we're seeing heavy traffic from that country specifically.
And when I do walk the streets, luckily for me, I have a male cameraman with me, but I wouldn't come down and walk the streets of El Paso alone by myself because of the heavy presence of migrants, because we don't know who is essentially on the streets right now.
But again, as Title 42 set to expire, we have started to see a heavier police presence in this area, but that was after the city came and processed those migrants, took them to different facilities, and took them off the street.
unidentified
That's when we started to see the police presence.
steve bannon
I want to thank Memphis.
This B-roll that's up there, let's get the B-roll back, please.
You don't need to see me. People see enough of me.
unidentified
Let's go put that B-roll back up.
steve bannon
I am shocked, given El Paso, Texas, how a great city.
It looks like a third world city.
Is this what's happened to El Paso with this safe streets situation where they're just dumping people out there, ma'am?
unidentified
Look at this footage. It's stunning.
savanah hernandez
Absolutely, Steve. And you know what?
One of the things that I'm really interested in is covering the homeless crisis that has ravaged the United States.
So I've been to San Francisco, Philadelphia, Seattle, Portland, and El Paso very much mirrors the, again, dirty, human feasts, these ridden streets that I'm oftentimes seeing in these progressive cities.
I used to go to school down here in this area.
I was very familiar with the city.
And it does look very different from what I remember.
And I do keep hearing this, you know, same third world country type rhetoric.
And that's exactly what it is.
If you walk the street right now, I don't feel like I'm in Texas.
I feel like I'm in Mexico for being honest.
steve bannon
I don't want you to bury the lead.
I want to go back to you ask people for their papers or to see their papers.
Did you tell me a woman that's been processed?
Her date of when she's got to show up for the first time is in 2027.
It's four years from today.
savanah hernandez
That is correct. Now, I'm sure the viewers are familiar, but these notice-to-appear papers are essentially given to the migrants once they're processed and do allow them to legally stay in the U.S. until that court date.
So I've interviewed some migrants who have a court date as soon as July or August of this year, but the woman that I interviewed, her court date isn't until 2027.
By the way, her husband was deported into Juarez, and so she's here in El Paso waiting for him because he is going to be recrossing once Title 42 expires tonight.
steve bannon
What do they have to—I mean, this is a scam.
This is abusing our asylum system, right?
We know that. But what do they even have to say to be let in and processed into the country?
Is there any effort at all to turn these people back?
savanah hernandez
You know, Steve, from what I've seen, no.
And Border Patrol, of course, they can't speak to us directly, but they'll kind of come over and say, hey, thank you for reporting on this because we're completely overwhelmed.
We feel like we're an uber service for illegal immigrants at this point.
We have low morale because we have our hands tied.
They aren't allowed to actually enforce the policies that they were hired to enforce.
They feel like the Biden administration has completely abandoned them.
And again, the streets very much reflect that.
The only reason things are cleaned up right now is because the media started attracting attention to this.
We all saw the viral footage of thousands of migrants sleeping on the streets of El Paso.
And it really took, again, the media coming down here, Americans seeing the reality of what is going on, For the city to clean this up and, you know, going back to your original question, is anybody really being turned away?
I have spoken to multiple migrants who have been deported multiple times.
Again, they're going and they were willingly getting processed the other day because Customs and Border Patrol at this point is like, hey, just make our lives easier.
unidentified
Go get your paperwork so that way you can be submitted into these shelters.
savanah hernandez
They're getting that paperwork and they're being released.
I've heard this from Five to six different migrants that we have talked to that they are happy to get their papers.
It's an easy process. They go in, they get the paperwork, they leave.
By the way, a lot of this paperwork does allow them to work in the US as well.
So they're ready to start their life here in the United States with basically zero repercussions.
steve bannon
Unbelievable. We're just breaking through the immigration system.
This is the Biden administration. Todd Benson has reported that it's a controlled flow and that the Mexican authorities, he's seen them on radios, on phones, talking to DHS officers on the other side to control the flow to make sure it's done smoothly but quickly to get as many in the United States as possible.
Have you seen anything like that?
Does this look like it's organized by the Biden administration?
Coordination with Mexican officials to get as many people illegally essentially breaking the asylum all as in here as possible?
savanah hernandez
I haven't seen anything like that personally, but what I have seen, Steve, is DHS officials make it very difficult for us reporters on the ground to show these hordes of migrants that are making their way over from Juarez into the United States.
So, you know, here in El Paso, we have the border wall, but there is that stretch of federal land.
So, once migrants do come over from Juarez into the United States, and they are on soil there, Journalists have a very difficult time of actually seeing those groups.
That's why the majority of footage from El Paso is drone footage.
And like I said, just this morning, officials really cracking down on people and saying, sorry, you can't fly your drones.
You can't be in this area.
And they're really, like I said, being very restrictive.
So that's kind of what I've seen on my end is just This really does seem like a cover-up.
Like I said, Steve, you know, just last week these streets were dirty, they were filled with trash, they were filled with migrants, and now it's cleaned up.
It's like, oh, where's the crisis at?
steve bannon
It just disappears. Last question.
El Paso's got some of those radical members of Congress, some real left-wingers down there.
Are people coming to you?
Are the people there finally waking up to the fact of what this is, a dangerous invasion of our country?
Or do the politicians and the media down there suppress the information so much?
from a woman in McAllen that said there's no state authorities there.
There's nothing, you know, there's no protection whatsoever.
And the locals have just kind of given up on this.
What's the sense in El Paso?
savanah hernandez
I think that the sense is very similar.
I know the mayor did do a press conference just the other day where he was basically saying, hey, to the El Paso residents, don't worry.
The migrants aren't coming to El Paso.
They're just trying to pass through essentially.
That's why we declared the state of emergency so we can shelter them and they'll eventually leave the city.
So that's kind of the angle the mayor is trying to take with this right now to calm his own citizens down.
But I do think that people are waking up.
I do think that people see what is happening and what is going on.
And we are starting to get a lot more vocal about it as we continue to see tens of thousands daily at this point continue to cross the border.
steve bannon
Savannah, is Abbott or any local Texas authorities putting forward anything whatsoever to try to repel this invasion?
I know the federal government is assisting it, but do you see any of Abbott's people down there trying to stop it?
savanah hernandez
I mean, here in El Paso, I haven't seen much, but I do know that he did start the Texas Tactical Force, where he was sending an additional, I believe, 545 National Guardsmen down here.
We have seen a couple of videos in, you know, the Brownsville and the Callen area of barbed-wired areas that were open and bringing in a lot of migrants.
You know, heavy passage areas.
And we did see some video of these National Guardsmen turning those migrants away.
However, what I want people to know when you watch those types of videos is that just because those migrants didn't cross at that point does not mean that they were not rerouted to a different portion and still made their way over to the U.S. So it is interesting to me because I feel like Abbott is trying to highlight like, oh, look, we're trying to turn people away, but they're ultimately still making their way into Texas, again, all over our southern border.
steve bannon
Savannah, we'll check in with you hopefully later before we leave the air.
How do people get to you? Social media, all of it.
You're part of Turning Point USA's frontline reporters.
You guys do an incredible job.
Head tip to Charlie Kirk and the team over at Turning Point.
By the way, I'm going to be at the, I think, July 15th and 16th is going to be the big Turning Point conference.
Down in Florida in West Palm Beach, Senator Josh Hawley will be there, Senator J.D. Vance will be there, of course the great Jack Posobiec will be there, Boebert, Congressman Boebert, I will be there, many, many others.
We're always honored to participate in anything that Turning Point puts on.
How do people get to you?
Where do they get you on social media and where do they go for a website, man?
savanah hernandez
You guys can go to SavSaysOfficial.com to go follow all of my reporting.
Also, go follow me on Twitter at Sav underscore says, because that's where I'm doing all of my live tweeting.
You can see all the drone footage of what's happening here in El Paso.
You can see all of those interviews with the migrants on the ground, and I will continue to cover the border crisis here in El Paso.
unidentified
Thank you so much. Savannah, stay safe.
steve bannon
The audience's prayers are with you, but, you know, you're a fighter and you're a tiger, but this is a very dangerous situation, so just stay safe, okay?
savanah hernandez
Absolutely. Thank you guys so much.
steve bannon
Savannah Hernandez. She punches way above her weight.
She's incredible. Just gets incredible stories all the time throughout the world.
It's just amazing. And this is so great what Charlie and the folks have done.
Do we have Terry showing?
Okay. By the way, we're going to be juggling.
We've got Congressman Burchett.
He's running through an airport.
He's from Oversight. We're going to try to get him.
I've got Boris. We're going to track down Boris.
I've got to go through last night what happened in New Hampshire.
Do we have the clip? Of the woman that we played for Nancy Mace?
Do we have the clip for the woman that asked the thing?
Okay, fine. Maybe I can get that up later.
Okay, so last night they had, and Caitlin Collins jumped in on this.
Terry, I asked you and Liz Yor and some other folks I know are the leaders of the Right to Life movement, President Trump last night, a woman asked a question about end of Dobbs.
President Trump had an answer.
Congressman Mace was on today, and she's been one of the leaders, I guess, of the moderates, and she laid down a case about empathy and practicality about winning elections.
And I wanted you to come back and give your...
I know because you're the opposite end of the spectrum, why don't you come and spend a few minutes with us and walk through your theory of the case.
First off, President Trump's response last night, tell me about it.
terry schilling
Well, first of all, President Trump, without question, is the most pro-life president we've ever had.
He, in just his first term in office, managed to nominate three justices and ended up overturning Roe.
You can't discount that.
But he's coming around and we're figuring out what to do in the wake of Roe, right?
Everyone agrees that there's definitely a state role in regulating and protecting the unborn.
The question is, what does a federal policy look like?
Steve, I've done so much polling on this issue, and we do it with our partner groups like the Susan B. Anthony List, and it's actually gotten to the point where it's very boring.
And what I mean by that is that it's so predictable.
The only thing that really matters in terms of whether or not a pro-life law is popular or not is whether or not it has exceptions.
For rape, incest, and life of the mother.
And I know that there's a lot in the pro-life community that don't think that there should be any protections.
But, you know, at the end of the day, I'm a pragmatic guy.
But the polling, it was interesting.
We compared the polling for a heartbeat bill with exceptions.
It came in at 61%.
And the opposite, which is the Democrats' position, unlimited, unrestricted access to abortion at any point for any reason was only at 23%.
steve bannon
Hang on one second. Hang on one second.
Let me, let me, I finally got it up.
I want to play the entire clip of the woman last night, President Trump, and then Caitlin Collins kind of hectoring him.
Let's go ahead and play it, Memphis. Thank you.
unidentified
I appreciate you answering this question this evening.
How do you plan to appeal to women voters in New Hampshire who are concerned about the Dobbs decision and how states may change their laws?
donald j trump
It's such a great question and it was such a great victory and people are starting to understand it now.
You know that they wanted to bring it back to the states but that was probably the least important part of that victory.
Getting rid of Roe v.
Wade was an incredible thing for pro-life because it gave pro-life something to negotiate with.
Pro-life had absolutely nothing being stuck in Roe v.
Wade to negotiate with.
And now what's happening, and I see it all over, deals are being made, deals are going to be made.
And, look, everybody that was president wanted to get rid and tried to get rid of Roe v.
Wade. You mean Republicans?
For 50 years, Republicans. For 50 years, this has been going on.
Actually, a couple of Democrats, too.
But for 50 years, this has been going on.
I was able to do it, and I was very honored to do it.
But by doing it, things are happening that are very, very positive.
And I happen to believe in the exceptions, the life of the mother.
Rape, incest, like Ronald Reagan believed in the exceptions, but I happen to believe that.
I think it's frankly important to do that, but a lot of people are, you know, against that.
A relatively small number.
But the way I look, I think it's very important to say this.
I consider the other side to be radical, because the other side under Roe v.
Wade and other things, the other side, they're radical, because they will...
Remember the debate with Hillary Clinton?
I said, rip the baby out of the womb at the end of the ninth month.
They will kill the baby in the ninth month.
If you look at that crazy governor of Virginia from the former governor, where he said, no, the baby will be born, and then we'll decide, essentially, whether or not to execute the baby.
unidentified
But, Mr. President, can we talk about what you would do if you are reelected?
donald j trump
No, but these are the radical people. It's not the pro-life people that are radical.
unidentified
But if you are reelected, and you're back in the Oval Office, and you get legislation to your desk, would you sign a federal abortion ban into law?
donald j trump
What I'll do is negotiate so that people are happy.
But the fact that we were able, I was able, I'm so proud of it, we put three great justices on the Supreme Court.
We have almost 300 federal judges on the Supreme Court.
unidentified
Just to be clear, Mr.
President, you would sign a federal abortion ban into law.
donald j trump
I said this. I said this.
I want to do what's right.
And we're looking. And we want to do what's right for everybody.
But what's right. But now, for the first time, the people that are pro-life have negotiating capability.
Because you didn't have it before.
They could kill the baby in the ninth month or after the baby was born.
Now they won't be able to do that.
steve bannon
Break that down for us, Terry Schilling.
terry schilling
Well, look, he's finding his roots again, right?
There was some commotion a few weeks ago where he was suggesting there was no federal rule, but he did exactly what he needs to do.
Now, we still need to figure out what the right federal policy is.
And even the pro-life movement is figuring that out.
And they're basically saying 15 weeks or better, right, with exceptions.
That's what they're expecting from the presidential field.
And that's, I think, where he's going to come down.
But he's going to come down and come out with some type of federal protections for the unborn.
And you know what, Steve? If it's a 15-week bill, that's great.
We're up to European standards, right?
These are leftists.
They are hysterical.
You can't trust anything they say.
These are people that think it's okay for doctors to kill babies and make money off of it.
And they accuse us of big government while taking all of our property, raising our taxes, trying to take our kids from us now.
I think at a bare minimum, though, in the terms of the big government debate, I think at a bare minimum our laws should say you just can't kill babies.
That's actually a very small, limited government where you can't kill babies.
But look, President Trump, he's there, right?
He's still the same guy.
It was so encouraging. I've seen him at these rallies, so it wasn't that surprising to me.
But I've heard from other of my friends, and the guy still got it.
Gosh darn it. He's so good.
steve bannon
Talk to me then about the polling, and Nancy Mace came in, and she's been one of the leaders of the moderates, saying that we've got to watch this because this is how we're going to lose this election.
Go back to the polling, and then talk to me about what Nancy Mace and the moderate Republicans are talking about.
terry schilling
Well, the polling is very clear cut.
When you contrast it, when you contrast any abortion restriction from heartbeat to 15 weeks to third trimester bans, as long as they have exceptions, it's a two-to-one, and in some cases it's a three-to-one margin.
And that's what you really have to pay attention to when you compare the Democrats' position to our protections for the unborn, which is, as President Trump said, unrestricted access to abortion.
So the one that I found most interesting was that A heartbeat bill at six weeks, if you ban abortion or you limit abortion to before a baby has a heartbeat, with exceptions, it pulls in at 61 % to 23 % to the Democrats' position of unrestricted access to abortion.
It's a no-brainer, Steve, and it's a losing proposition to go before the voters in your state and tell them that you don't want to protect babies, right?
That's the bigger vulnerability.
You mentioned earlier that Nancy Mays said that she's all about winning elections and empathy.
What do you think is driving the pro-life movement if not for empathy for these unborn children that aren't even being given a chance at life?
Look, Steve, we all owe our fellow man something, right?
We live in a community. I have to pay taxes to send strangers to school.
I have to pay for their lunches.
I'm okay with that. But if we owe each other something, if I owe strangers a college degree and an education, well, then I think a mom and a dad owe their baby at least nine months in the womb.
And I think the American people are there, too.
steve bannon
But how have we then lost the narrative, or maybe we haven't, but at least for our perception, we've lost the narrative that the entire 2022 Midtown loss was because of this issue of abortion and how they're playing up 2024 to be the, and I can tell you from the donors and some of the senior political operatives, people are very nervous about this.
Is this because we've lost the narrative or we've lost the facts?
terry schilling
No, we've lost the fact, Steve.
And keep in mind, the bad guys still control our corporate media apparatus.
And there's still a lot of bad guys in the GOP consultant class that don't want to talk about abortion.
They like abortion.
They support it, ultimately.
Listen, the reality of 2022 is that the Republicans didn't talk about abortion.
We've analyzed all of the campaign spending on campaign ads and the messaging in it, and the Democrats spent over $500 million in the 2022 election attacking Republicans for being extreme on abortion.
Steve, you know how much our side spent on pro-life ads attacking Democrats?
It was less than $50 million.
They outspent us 10 to 1 on abortion messaging.
And by the way, 500 million, we throw around a lot of numbers.
That's as much as McDonald's spends on its corporate advertising for the entire year.
You give me 500 million dollars, I'll make fluoride in the water a campaign issue that decides an election.
We have to go on offense.
And by the way, these Republicans, you're not going to be able to deflect to inflation and jobs in the economy or crime because no one takes you seriously because you never deliver.
This is This is a product of sellout Republicans never delivering for their voters and people not trusting them.
That's why we lost the 22 election.
We got outspent, out-messaged with our voters, and we didn't fight on abortion.
steve bannon
That's why we lost. But isn't the lesson the Democrats are going to say is that we put unlimited amount of money, you know, we put a billion dollars in this in 2024.
The hobbits are going to be able to put up 50 to 100 million dollars again.
We'll have the same results.
I mean, how do you, if it's just about throw weight, That's my point is, did we lose narrative or facts?
I think the way at least I would look, he didn't actually lose the facts, he lost the narrative.
He lost the narrative because guys put money in to drive that narrative.
How do we, because even most, even many of your allies, I mean the Susan B. Anthony thing this week with President Trump was pretty huge, but even a lot of your natural allies are sitting there going, is this one, because There's no amount of money sourcing these guys won't put in to go after this issue.
They think this is essential to capturing the female vote, sir.
terry schilling
So our big problem is that it was just the outside groups that were spending that $50 million to get Republicans elected.
We need the candidates.
We need the candidates. We need them to follow the Trump model.
What President Trump did in that third debate where he called out Hillary for being okay with ripping a baby out of the womb in the ninth month right before it was about to be born, that's what we need to do.
You need the candidates to be spending their money.
The candidates, by the way, have They will spend billions of dollars each election cycle, but they don't like talking about it because it makes them uncomfortable.
It's much more comfortable, Steve, to talk about inflation and crime and all the safe things that appear to be easy layups, but it's uncomfortable to talk about abortion.
As someone that talks about abortion and transgenderism, it's not fun.
I mean, I'm fun, but I'm sick.
The thing is, we need the candidates to go on offense.
They need to attack their opponents.
They need to run campaign ads articulating their vision and attacking their Democrat opponents for being extreme on abortion.
And if we can get the candidates to do that, we're going to have a lot better success and traction in these elections.
steve bannon
Okay, Terry, if I could ask you to hold through the break, because I want to talk about the attacks on the family, I want to talk about the parental rights movement, things that the American Parental Project is at the center of.
They're coming hard for that.
I think they saw, particularly after last night's command performance by President Trump on Ukraine, on the border, on the economy, they're going to sit there and go, I don't know if Biden can take him on or any Democrat can take him on and things are in his wheelhouse.
We have to come about it a different way.
And I think that they are coming for the American family like you've never seen before.
Short commercial break. Terry Schilling from American Principles Project.
We've got a couple of other tricks up our sleeve.
leave you'll see it all after a short commercial break.
unidentified
Thank you.
Yes. We love you, Queen!
We love you, Queen! We're in your corner and we've got you and I will fuck anybody up who's like trying to fuck with anything with you guys.
It's really in all seriousness.
There's so many things that are hurting and really killing our kids, and we all know what I'm talking about right now.
And it ain't no drag queen, because if you've ever seen a drag queen lip sync for her life, it only makes you happier, it only makes you love more, it makes you a better person.
Fuck, if I could do a death drop right now, I would.
But I would probably, like, break my hip.
Let's do it. Yes!
Listen, I want to ask everybody out there, please, please support all the great organizations that are out there helping all of this nonsense going away like it should, all of these incredibly stupid policies.
Bye! Bye!
No more room for hate!
Only love and love equals drag queen!
steve bannon
From the pit of hell, let me bring in Terry Schilling.
Terry, what did I just see there?
Explain that to me and explain this in the context of the assault on the family, sir.
terry schilling
Well, Steve, I mean, for a long time, the sexual left has been trying to sexualize our kids, right?
This actually started with Alfred Kinsey in the 40s and 50s, and it carried on.
They've established Kinsey Institutes all throughout the country.
And Kinsey basically was a pedophile.
He didn't think there was anything wrong with children having sexual activity.
And he was the pioneer for what we're experiencing today through this sexual revolution.
And it's now coming to fruition because all of our institutions have been captured.
You're seeing the normalization of pedophilia.
You're seeing states right now, like the state of Washington just yesterday, the AP ran a story.
The state of Washington passed a law to protect They're going to protect children from their parents.
That's a very interesting way to frame it, right?
These are kidnapping laws.
These are laws that allow for states to kidnap children from their parents.
They're unconstitutional.
They're willing to upend the entire system of due process and innocent until proven guilty just to destroy the family because they know that the family is the heart and soul of this country.
It's why we go to work.
It's why we care about the future, why we don't want them spending so much and why we want good policies and laws passed.
If you don't have families, you're not going to care about your elections and the people in power because you don't have an investment in the future.
steve bannon
This is the way that the Marxists have always gone about it.
Look, I've got to ask this, because there's something...
It just doesn't connect.
You know, you've had the Q people, right?
And they are dumped on all the time.
They're crazy. They're conspiracy theorists.
You know, this Q stuff's nuts.
But then you see a situation like that, and you see a pretty established Hollywood star.
Maybe she's not getting the role she used to be, as happens to women of a certain age, but she was one of Hollywood's biggest stars.
Still hugely prominent in the entertainment industry.
You see that and you see what it represents and everything associated with that.
Then today, Congressman Nancy Mace was here and she's talking about the Biden investigation and actually going and seeing the Going to the Treasury Department and seeing the wire transfers of all the money.
And, you know, that's principally as the presentation you saw from Oversight dealing with the Chinese Congress.
Part of the reason I was brought in by Rudy and Bob Costello to review the laptop from hell was about my knowledge of CCP-controlled companies and the one belt, one road, and money flows that went back and forth to there.
And, you know, the press conference was about that.
And then in the war room, because she was in studio today, she says, you know, but the thing that upset me the most of all that, which is treason and stuff like that, she said, the thing that I'm going to personally pursue, this is her talking, is that she said the biggest file, the thickest file, was in the prostitution area, in the human trafficking of women.
And I go, what are you talking about?
It says, oh yeah, the wire transfers are this, the file was this thick, the other files are this thick, this file was this thick, money going back and forth, Hunter Biden, the Biden family, et cetera, on this very topic.
Then I talk to people that are, we've got people strung out from Brownsville, Texas, and the Gulf of Mexico all the way To Tijuana on the Pacific Ocean.
2,000 miles on the border of this coming down on the stripping off of Title 42.
And whether we're talking to local officials in Arizona or local officials in the Rio Grande Valley, or whether we're talking to DPS or people behind the scenes, because 24-7 we're working on this and you've got all these great reporters.
They continue to talk about it.
It's just one of the things that's happened is just open season.
The cartels are now just going full bore on child and human trafficking.
And you see these three different elements of it.
And you say, hey, yeah, the Q people are crazy.
They're conspiracy theory. But you see these elements in place.
All about and around young children.
And you see the relentless, like right there, not just mocking you, up in your grill and threatening you that if you have any problem at all trying to defend your children from this, they're gonna F you up, right?
And you see what's happening on the border, you see what's happening in this Biden family, you see what's happening in the FBI and the Treasury Department, because that file With the money that went for the human trafficking and the sex trafficking, and the implication is that not an insignificant amount of this are underage girls, right? Yep.
That the Treasury Department's known about this.
The Treasury Department have had these on file since 2015, 2016, before President Trump ever took over.
Your thoughts and assessments, sir?
terry schilling
Well, look, I'm a big believer in that ideology does drive some things, but I think industries drive a lot more.
There's a lot of money that's tied up into human trafficking.
There's a lot of power here.
There's a lot of dirt on people.
The fact that they've known about this and have covered it up and we had to win back Congress in order to uncover it, It tells you a lot about this regime.
And frankly, Steve, I've thought a lot about this.
And who are these people that are putting hundreds of millions of dollars into pro-abortion election ads?
Who are the people that are getting Planned Parenthood started?
Who are the industry leaders that have a vested interest in it?
It's not just the abortionists.
I mean, they make a lot of money. But it's the sex traffickers, right?
When you have an underage girl or an overage girl and she gets pregnant and she has to carry that baby to term, well, that's a bad investment and she's not going to be able to make you as much money.
That's why they want to sexualize kids.
Steve, we tried to pass an age verification law for pornography in 1997 and the Supreme Court struck it down.
They said we didn't have the right to restrict pornography off of the internet, that it posed an undue burden on porn users.
Give me a break! There is an agenda here, and it's to break down our sexual boundaries, our sexual mores, and our sexual rules.
So that we're all just godless and we pay for sex instead of devoting our life to just one person for our entire life and having a family.
It's all about control.
It's all about the money. And it's these industries that are driving all of this and it's fueled a lot by human trafficking.
steve bannon
Where there may be some, I'm not saying controversy, but difference of opinion about the whole abortion right to life and how that's to be positioned going forward by people who are on the same side of the football.
The situation with parental rights and the situation with what we just talked about, the protection of the family.
When I've looked at numbers, these are 70, 30, 75, 25, 80, 20 things.
How is that galvanizing the effort of all these different groups?
Do you feel people are pulling together and coming together like they were in the life movement and that this will be a big wave of people on a cultural aspect in 2024?
terry schilling
Well, look, Steve, I always go back to Virginia in 2021 and how we turned this blue state red.
And the only reason it happened is because Glenn Youngkin made it an issue on the campaign trail.
He made parental rights And parents controlling what their kids learn in school, an issue.
And this LGBT stuff was on the front, and Glenn Youngkin, who's now the governor, made that a campaign issue.
I think my nightmare, my fear, is that you have all of this energy from the American people, from the voters, but if it's not channeled through our elected officials, if it's not channeled through politicians who are running and attacking their opponents for ripping apart our families,
That's going to dissipate and it's going to run out and the people are going to lose not just momentum, they're going to lose hope because you need, look Steve, I've done this for a long time and the women's sports issue is what took everything to the next level and it was because it had one extra factor.
All these issues are very popular with the American people.
But the thing that made the women's sports issue different was that politicians were willing to champion it and fight for it.
And we had consequences for the politicians that vetoed this legislation, like Kristi Noem.
So you need the political champions.
You can't just have...
Popular opinion because that energy, those people will get demoralized and they'll lose hope and they won't have any champions to vote for if our politicians aren't talking about it.
And so that's my nightmare because I just don't think enough of our elected officials, our governors, our senators, our members of Congress, everyone, I don't think they're talking about this stuff enough.
Why haven't any of the presidential candidates, maybe Vivek has, why haven't any of them criticized this Washington law?
That allows for the state to kidnap your children and then ask questions.
They literally, if your kid goes to Child Family Services and said, I'm transgender and I don't think that my parents will support it.
They take the kid from the home and then they tell the parents.
They don't go to the parents first. What in the world is going on, Steve?
Why isn't everyone and their mother talking about this on the public stage?
It makes no sense and it's very frightening to me.
steve bannon
Terry, how do people get to American principles?
Because this is Washington State, whatever, all this is happening, parental rights, the anti-CRT, all that, it's all coming together now, and it's got to be a major element of the MAGA movement going forward.
Because this is what it's about.
It's about the protection of the American family.
If we lose that, all the other stuff doesn't matter.
terry schilling
So how do people get to you? It's americanprinciplesproject.org or you can follow me on Instagram.
I have a video that just got over 1 million views from my CPAC in Hungary speech.
It's just shilling1776.
So at shilling1776 across all the platforms.
So check it out, guys. Thanks so much for having me, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you very much. We'll play that.
Hopefully we'll get that up. We'll get it up on our website.
Hopefully we'll get it tomorrow. Terry, thank you very much.
Breaking news. The meeting tomorrow has been postponed on the debt ceilings.
Does that just shock you? The working groups have met.
But that the leadership is not going to meet with Biden tomorrow.
It is sometime next week, and I don't think that has been laid out yet.
What this means is that we have to—and you heard President Trump.
It was amazing. President Trump last night said, hey, I'll call their bluff.
We need massive cuts or dare them to default.
It's Yellen and Biden that have to default.
Dare them to default. It was very powerful.
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Boris Epstein joins us by phone.
Boris, one day after, I know you guys had a lot of briefings on this and breakdown.
Give us your assessment of last night and, as importantly, how we're firing off the football off of that command performance last night.
boris epshteyn
Steve, honored to be with you, honored to be with the posse, and not only was there an absolute powerhouse performance last night.
What we've had today is a poll coming out of Florida which shows That on the economy, President Trump is leading the Florida governor 46 to 18.
What does that say? That says that the people of Florida—the economy is obviously the key indicator—the people of Florida realize just what that audience last night realized, that we need President Trump back in office as soon as possible.
And now where do we go from here?
We go to a full, robust rally in Iowa.
And from there on to victory in the primary and in the general.
Some of the buried leads last night, Steve, that I thought were very important was the fact that there was no doubt as the town hall went through the hour, hour plus, a little bit plus, that that was the president.
That was the president of our country there, not the guy who currently is illegitimately in the Oval Office or wherever he is in his bed somewhere upstairs.
President Trump is the true leader of our country.
And even Caitlin Collins couldn't help herself but keep saying, Mr.
President, Mr. President, Mr.
President. And that was absolutely clear.
And then on the key issues, from energy to the border, and then, of course, to what's happening in Russia and Ukraine, President Trump giving absolutely unparalleled answers, and answers that, frankly, forget Biden, who doesn't know what day it is.
But you know for a fact that none of the pretenders for the Republican nomination No politician, period, outside of President Trump could be giving those common sense, direct business answers.
unidentified
I mean, you know, Caitlin Collins, oh, do you want Ukraine to win a war?
boris epshteyn
First of all, winning a war, we're not in Roman times here.
You know, that just shows how little the mainstream media knows and understands about modern conflict.
And President Trump perfectly saying, what I want is for the death and destruction to stop.
And then the answer on war criminals, If we call Putin a war criminal now, and he thinks he's got Slobodan Milosevic's fate coming at him, then what is he going to do with over 5,000 nuclear weapons?
Again, direct, sensical, logical, powerful.
steve bannon
That was last night. Real quickly, before I let you go, I love that breakdown, and you're right, it was quite powerful as a command performance.
I just want to make sure I heard this right, because we're just getting this in with you.
The poll was done, and it shows in Florida, not nationally, Florida.
It's 46-18 in Florida, Trump versus DeSantis.
boris epshteyn
That is 46-18 on who would handle the economy better.
Overall, from those who are likely to vote, President Trump is up by 10.
From those who have seen advertisements for both, he's up by almost 20.
Specifically, on the economy, on the economy, this poll put out by American Spectator, done by National Strategies, what it says specifically is that the people of Florida prefer President Trump to their own governor by a measure of 46 to 18 on who would handle the economy better.
And as you know, Steve, the economy is what matters.
That's how people make up their mind, especially now in California.
And hey, let me tell you this. I'm in the state of Florida right now, and gas is at $4 a gallon.
It is not at all a surprise that the people of Florida are looking at their governors gallivanting around South Korea and Japan.
And the U.K. and Israel and everywhere else, Ohio, while his own state and the people of the state that he's supposedly protecting are paying $4 a gallon for regular gas.
steve bannon
Bringing back big trade deals.
Boris, how do people get you the morning newsletter, Instagram, all of it?
boris epshteyn
Where do people go? Steve, thank you so much.
Honored to be with you. Honored to be with the posse.
My information on the website is borrscp.com, hot on borrscp.com, hot on Twitter at Borrscp, on Getter at Borrscp, on Truth at Boris, and the hottest on the Grand Boris on the score, Epstein.
Stay strong, God bless, and all offense.
steve bannon
Boris, thank you very much for breaking away from the meetings to join us to give us that breakdown.
We'll do more of the breakdown tomorrow.
We haven't had, believe it or not, we haven't had enough time to spend it.
That's been so just incredible.
I've never seen a news cycle, particularly with the southern border in collapse.
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unidentified
Thank you so much, Steve. Krom, thank you very much.
steve bannon
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Okay, tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
We're going to take this back up again.
I'm sure the border gets open at midnight tonight.
We'll be on this at 10 a.m.
tomorrow morning, plus the Cary Lake situation in Arizona.
Be back here. Lace them up tight tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
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