May 2, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Hail our enemy! | ||
| Hail our nation! | ||
| Hail our savior! | ||
| Hail our nation! | ||
| Hail our savior! | ||
| Our battle will continue without fierce opposition, and we stand here today in defiance of their siege and destroy their symbols of oppression. | ||
| Symbols of oppression. | ||
| How's this? | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| **Applause** **Roar** **Swoosh** **Applause** We must build a new community outside of the virtual. | ||
| Rebellion comes in many forms, to each and their own, within their own capabilities and their own situation. | ||
| For some of us, merely existing one more day is victory. | ||
| But for those of us who can, we must stand up for those who cannot. | ||
| ...addiction. So what we were doing is trying to destroy the symbols of the things that cause harm, that oppress us. | ||
| Whether that is people's theocratic views trying to instill theocratic rule in a supposed secular society. | ||
| Whether that is the Supreme Court utilizing their powers to decimate our rights. | ||
| Give power to those who are further taking our rights away from us. | ||
| The symbol of the flag was meant to represent the communities that people in authoritative positions that use that to cause harm to those who need the most protection. | ||
| They indoctrinated them into their worldviews based on fear and hatred. | ||
| We just had our opening ceremony, and it seemed to be very well received. | ||
| We've got over 800 people registered to attend, and we've got panel discussions and presenters starting probably any minute now. | ||
| We've had threats, and there are protesters, quite a few of them outside. | ||
| We have no problem with them protesting. | ||
| That's their right to do, as long as they keep it out there and let us do what we need to do safely inside. | ||
| Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. | ||
| Amen. Well, to me it's always been about opposition to theocracy and authoritarianism. | ||
| Satan, to me, is a very powerful symbol of rebellion and anti-authoritarianism. | ||
| And, you know, that's kind of what it is to me. | ||
| Obviously everyone is here for their own reasons. | ||
| For me, I don't like being told what to do, and I don't like people telling other people what to do either. | ||
| I've received death threats leading up to this. | ||
| I'm sure there's been death threats sent to our headquarters. | ||
| Back in the summertime, there was an arson attack in our headquarters that did a substantial amount of damage and could have killed a number of people inside, including visitors. | ||
| So it's not just idle threats. | ||
| People actually, you know, do stuff. | ||
| And we had our director of programming for SatanCon a few years ago had a gunman show up at her house and threatened to kill her, and the police had to come and take him away. | ||
| If I were the devil, If I were the prince of darkness, I'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness, and I'd have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn't be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree. | ||
| The. So I'd set about however necessary to take over the United States. | ||
| I'd subvert the churches first. | ||
| I'd begin with a campaign of whispers. | ||
| With the wisdom of the serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve. | ||
| Do as you please. To the young, I would whisper that the Bible is a myth. | ||
| I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around. | ||
| I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is square. | ||
| And then I'd get organized. | ||
| I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. | ||
| I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could. | ||
| I'd tranquilize the rest with pills. | ||
| If I were the devil, I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves, until each in its turn was consumed. | ||
| And I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flame. | ||
| If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions. | ||
| Just let those run wild. | ||
| Until before you knew it, you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door. | ||
| Within a decade, I'd have prisons overflowing. | ||
| I'd have judges promoting pornography. | ||
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We're talking about 8-year-olds and 9-year-olds and 11-year-olds and 12-year-olds. | |
| He's got over 600 images, gobs of video footage of these children. | ||
| But you say this does not signal a heinous or egregious child pornography offense. | ||
| And then you went on to say the defendant was merely trying to satisfy his curiosity. | ||
| That's somehow a reason to only give him three months. | ||
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Help me understand this. | |
| Soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress. | ||
| I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money. | ||
| If I were the devil, I'd take from those who have and give to those who want it until I could kill the incentive of the ambitious. | ||
| I would caution against extremes. | ||
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Donald Trump and the migrant Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. | |
| I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun. | ||
| That what you see on TV is the way to be. | ||
| In other words, if I were the devil, I'd just keep right on doing what he's doing. | ||
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Paul Harvey. Could they? | |
| Intelligence is the most powerful thing on the planet. | ||
| So there's a race between the computer engineers and AI. The bioengineers and DNA. Will the next dominant species on this planet be carbon-based or silicon-based? | ||
| But you do believe that AI can supersede human intelligence? | ||
| I believe it absolutely will. In this century, scientists may learn to awaken the power of artificial intelligence, and I think we might then see an intelligence explosion. | ||
| I think we need something like a Manhattan Project on the topic of artificial intelligence. | ||
| AI is that powerful. | ||
| All of us in the field call it as a black box. | ||
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You don't fully understand how it works, and yet you've turned it loose on society? | |
| Natural language is now the primary interface that we're going to use to describe things, even to computers. | ||
| Does it feel like something to be the Internet? | ||
| Is the Internet a part of it conscious, or could it be conscious in the future? | ||
| There are tens of millions of people working on writing code that expresses more and more aspects of our human consciousness. | ||
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My fellow humans, I come before you in this moment as an AI robot. | |
| Transhumanist biohackers who think it should be all systems go. | ||
| After all, what you think, what you feel, it's all just data that in large patterns can be decoded using artificial intelligence. | ||
| We have an implant in our planes. | ||
| Hannah's getting an electronic chip implanted into her hand. | ||
| It's very convenient to have a COVID passport always accessible on your implant. | ||
| Runaway nanotechnology, the robots killing everybody, the AI killing everybody, runaway bioweapons, etc, etc. | ||
| You know, if the AI is smart enough, are they using the tool or is the tool using them? | ||
| So, I think things are getting weird, and they're getting weird fast. | ||
| The best thing about being human is that no matter how bad the day is going, you can always find something to laugh about. | ||
| What do you think the chances are of AI just wiping out humanity? | ||
| It's nothing inconceivable. | ||
| Okay. That's all I'll say. | ||
| The first time you fail at aligning something much smarter than you are, you die. | ||
| By the way, we've got, for my staff, we've got a little bit of feedback here in the mic. | ||
| Let's go ahead and take care of it. Thanks, guys. | ||
| We've got the war and rumor of wars today on the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| We have the financial collapse of the country. | ||
| We're going to bring Peter Navarro and others in to talk about that. | ||
| We got the debt ceiling fight. | ||
| We have a lot to go through. | ||
| We got Benzman and others in Mexico about the invasion of the southern border. | ||
| But I got to start with the most important news of the day, and that is artificial intelligence. | ||
| And now some of the most senior people in the world that have worked on this for decades and decades and decades. | ||
| And quite frankly, dedicated their lives to this are now telling people quite frankly that this is it is so dangerous actually leaving their jobs their senior positions to alert mankind that we have let out of the box something that humans are probably not going to put back in the box. | ||
| I'm going to bring in Joe Allen. | ||
| Joe the headline and if our crack team can pull up I got it up on getter I think it's pinned the BBC this morning Lead story, Joe Allen, tell us about it. | ||
| And also tell us about your cold open there, particularly not an individual we would think would be watching the War Room and be echoing what the War Room's been saying for a couple of years since you came on as our editor, but they went into the well of the house. | ||
| It wasn't perfect, but man, it was one of the best speeches, particularly in a formal setting like the House of Representatives, like Congress in our nation's capital, that laid out the coming fight between carbon-based beings and silicon-based beings. | ||
| This was a speech given in Congress. | ||
| Walk us through what's going on, particularly Brother, was it Hinton, has now said, we have unleashed something on AI. And he, I guess, has left Google to now join the Luddites in the fight against this, sir. | ||
| Yes, Steve. The world is definitely on fire with fear and anxiety about the potential for artificial intelligence. | ||
| The departure of Jeffrey Hinton from Google really does mark a watershed in not only public sentiment, but the sentiment of experts who really are responsible for developing the technology. | ||
| Hinton, of course, was at Google AI. His departure also comes at the same time that Google AI is being merged with DeepMind to create ever more advanced AI systems. | ||
| Hinton has been interviewed in various places about this. | ||
| The New York Times, it was a very interesting article because he is talking about the real existential dangers that he fears his technology poses. | ||
| The immediate danger is that bad actors will use artificial intelligence for various things like flooding the internet with misinformation or manipulating populations. | ||
| Axios consulted with various AI experts about their concerns. | ||
| largely mirroring Jeffrey Hinton's and also including the possibility of cyber attacks, now that you have AI systems that can readily write code, and also increased capabilities for mass surveillance. | ||
| But with Jeffrey Hinton, I think that we We will hopefully see many more experts coming forward. | ||
| You have him, you have Paul Cristiano, who was at OpenAI and helped develop the user interface. | ||
| Really, many say he's responsible for developing the user interface behind ChatGPT, both of them saying that First, you have the problem of bad actors. | ||
| And second, both of them actually believe that an artificial intelligence system that could surpass human capabilities, not necessarily in all aspects, but in the aspects that count, that the artificial intelligence itself could be an existential threat. | ||
| Whatever one believes about all this, undoubtedly the smartest people in the field are telling you, open your eyes and be aware of the danger. | ||
| Joe, hang on for a second. We're taking a short commercial break. We're in turn, Joe, we're going to drill down on this. | ||
| We've got live coverage from the Mexican border. Peter Navarro is here. | ||
| One of the biggest banks in the country now seized by the U.S. | ||
| government, sold to, the good part sold to J.P. Morgan. | ||
| You're picking up the losses. Of course, Biden is lying to your face about that. | ||
| We'll get in all of it this morning on The War Room. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more. Let's take down the C.C.D. | |
| The most powerful thing on the planet. | ||
| So So there's a race between the computer engineers and AI, the bioengineers and DNA. Will the next dominant species on this planet be carbon-based or silicon-based? | ||
| But you do believe that AI can supersede? | ||
| Okay, just put a pin in that, we'll get back to that. | ||
| That is not a likely—we didn't consider that, and that's where you're going to see a lot of new configurations. | ||
| That's one of the reasons I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s crusade—I don't know if it's a campaign. | ||
| It's a crusade right now over in the Democratic Party—is so important. | ||
| It should be watched. Joe Allen, that is not someone who we would think would be an ally of the war room. | ||
| Brad Sherman, pretty progressive left congressman from California. | ||
| But an incredible—well, not a perfect speech, but I got to tell you, on a 10 scale, a 7.5 or 8. | ||
| And being, I think—correct me if I'm wrong—is it one of the first, if not the first, really major speech on the dangers and warning of artificial intelligence and transhumanism? | ||
| Because he kind of went through the whole thing, sir. | ||
| Well, you know, Steve, they've been bringing various experts to talk about things like ChatGPT into Congress to talk about the dangers. | ||
| And actually, to his credit, Brad Sherman also credited Kevin McCarthy for making all that happen. | ||
| And Sherman has talked about artificial intelligence before, but this, I think, really does represent a sort of landmark for just a serious presentation of at least What his wing of the political spectrum find to be the problems. | ||
| It wasn't a perfect speech. | ||
| There were a lot of things I could nitpick about it. | ||
| The underlying premise was that you have a sort of arms race between artificial intelligence companies to create a new intelligence, but also genetic engineers seeking to perfect human intelligence genetically. | ||
| And so he positions it as biological intelligence I think it's really important for two reasons. | ||
| One, it does show that people in Congress are at least aware that this is an issue and that some are willing to articulate it. | ||
| It also shows that as much as I would like to claim that Bioconservation and the preservation of the human race is a more conservative position. | ||
| There are a lot of progressives who do push that sort of narrative. | ||
| Now, their solution tends to be things like you hear out of AI Ethics. | ||
| Which is to make sure that AI has social justice, that it's not racist, sexist, or homophobic. | ||
| And that seems to be pretty much the limits to most of the AI ethicist concerns. | ||
| But I really do think it's, I at least hope, Steve, that what we're seeing with people like Jeffrey Hinton coming forward and saying that he wants to leave Google so that he can discuss openly existential risk, And guys like Paul Cristiano, | ||
| who certainly is nothing like a conservative, coming out of open AI saying that, you know, there is a 10 to 20 percent possibility of artificial general intelligence forming and then destroying the human race. | ||
| And, you know, in addition to that, if I could add one more really, really important data point, You have the Stanford University Artificial Intelligence Index, which was published about a month and a half ago, I believe. | ||
| And in that index, you know, they, of course, survey all the top experts in the field. | ||
| And in that index, you had 36 percent of experts saying that they feel that artificial intelligence poses a nuclear level threat to human beings and 57 % believe that we are on track or they are on track to creating artificial general intelligence. | ||
| So as I said earlier, you have not only the experts in the field saying that this is extremely dangerous, but also a lot of people across media and in Congress are also starting to realize that these technologies pose significant threats to human beings. | ||
| If you take the Stanford, as I remember, we're just outside the first 100 days. | ||
| Everybody's got to understand that, please. | ||
| If you don't take away anything else from this conversation, it's that from the announcement in Davos, it's just literally over 100 days ago. | ||
| That was in mid-January, right? | ||
| So we just passed the 100-day mark in late April. | ||
| I mean, we're in, like, I don't know, the 105th day. | ||
| 100 days of the rollout of Chad GBT. The first hundred days of this. | ||
| You've had the Stanford index about two and a half months ago, but just in the last two or three weeks, because this is now starting to build up momentum. | ||
| We want to make sure this audience is way ahead of the curve of the quote-unquote smartest people in the world. | ||
| You've had the 60 Minutes, which was nothing short of shocking. | ||
| I know shocked the 60 Minutes crew. | ||
| You then had the Elon Musk interview with Tucker on the AI part, which Tucker was very, very, you could tell. | ||
| Tucker was very, very interested in it. | ||
| I know from Tucker and the guys around him, this is an area that he really wanted to drill down on. | ||
| In fact, when he interviewed President Trump, if there was more time, I think the foreign policy part was so strong, he went with it. | ||
| But one of the things he wanted to even talk to President Trump about in that conversation was artificial intelligence. | ||
| That's how focused Tucker is. | ||
| I think he exposed a lot An Elon Musk interview with him that was on the danger side. | ||
| The day after, two days after, Elon Musk announced that he's going to restart or start his new AI venture. | ||
| Then you've had Hinton. | ||
| You've had the other guy come out. | ||
| You had Hinton come out. | ||
| You've had these major foundational members come out and say, this thing is is too far off track or too far ahead of where we thought it was going to be. | ||
| You've had this building momentum. | ||
| Today it's the lead story on the BBC. The BBC is the number one news service throughout the world. | ||
| It's more decision makers at a general level. | ||
| It's not like the Financial Times or The Economist, but it's at that level for generally everybody, every decision maker throughout the world goes to BBC News. | ||
| It's the lead story. It's been the lead story up there for 12 hours. | ||
| This Hinton thing Is a massive development. | ||
| And you have Brad Sherman going down into the well of the House and actually giving a very, I think, important and kind of monumental speech. | ||
| My point is this is picking up, the momentum is picking up of people on the side of, and then there's all types of articles we don't have time to put up. | ||
| There's one on the BBC I think it says it's going to affect 300 million jobs, not for the better, you know, rapidly. | ||
| The cultural and societal impact this is having already. | ||
| is monumental. There's a study out yesterday. | ||
| They've done an analysis. | ||
| They think the AI robot may be more empathetic, may have a better bedside manner than your doctor, because none of the doctors now are GPs and don't really have patients. | ||
| They're all part of these combines, so they don't really have the bedside manner anymore. | ||
| They're saying the AI robot may be actually more empathetic than the human. | ||
| This is picking up with a velocity. | ||
| And Sherman said the one thing that we should not forget. | ||
| We're just talking about the computer engineers. | ||
| Don't forget the biological engineers on the other part of transhumanism. | ||
| Because as huge of the advances are in artificial intelligence, in these labs Okay? | ||
| In DARPA, in the weapons labs, in other labs, research labs, university labs, and not just in the United States, throughout the world. | ||
| They're ported on the genome and genetic engineering side. | ||
| This convergence, and all of a sudden it's just going to pop on somebody one day. | ||
| Oh, you know, the singularity is going to be like next week. | ||
| Not in 2050. | ||
| Not in 2100. | ||
| Joe Allen. You know, Steve, right now I think the most important thing that people can realize is that for the last three years, human beings have been peeled apart from each other at a scale completely unknown in history due to the COVID lockdowns, the various restrictions, and the inculcated germophobia. | ||
| And just today, I believe it was announced today, that the Surgeon General of the United States, Vivek Murthy, He is warning that loneliness and isolation, he says, is more dangerous than smoking. | ||
| Now, I think it's important to note that that loneliness has only been exacerbated by the kinds of policies that he pushed, but he is correct. | ||
| And that atomization, the atomization that people have been talking about being an element of technological society, For decades and decades now, that atomization leaves human beings vulnerable to wanting more and more sort of digital companionship. | ||
| Already, most people have a whole array of digital companions who are actually human, but now, with the advent of these large language models, You have the opportunity for tech corporations or any actor whatsoever to kind of create artificial personalities to not only soothe people's loneliness, but to manipulate people. | ||
| One really great example of potential scams, you had the story out of Arizona with one Jennifer DeStefano who got a phone call that she believed to be her daughter saying that she'd been kidnapped and needed a million dollars. | ||
| This, of course, turned out to be a deep fake. | ||
| The people who did it basically were able to scrape her daughter's voice in a very short sample and recreate it. | ||
| These sorts of things are going to happen continually. | ||
| And so I think that, for once, I do agree with the Surgeon General's recommendation. | ||
| Humans have to have other humans face-to-face in their lives. | ||
| We have to cultivate and strengthen those bonds because more and more as we go forward, Beyond the singularity, you're going to have these technologies basically replacing human interaction. | ||
| I may agree with part of that, but I don't agree. | ||
| I think he's also trying to use a misdirection play about shutting down information that the regime doesn't like. | ||
| We'll get into that. We're trying to get Darren Beattie in studio tomorrow to join us with Joe Allen to go through this. | ||
| Joe, I know you've got to go back to work. | ||
| You're working on a big project. | ||
| How do people get to you? Particularly the new exclusive content you're putting up on worm.org. | ||
| Yes, of course. Go to warroom.org. | ||
| You can sign up for the newsletter there. | ||
| Also, my site, jobot.xyz. | ||
| And, of course, my social media, J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. Thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| Joe Allen, thank you, sir, for going to the Mexican border to talk about the invasion of the United States. | ||
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and Peter Navarro is going to join us next in the war. | |
| Okay, pretty startling cold open, and I know the first two segments kind of, I'm sure, rattled a lot of people. | ||
| And it should be rattled. | ||
| I want you rattled. Look, the debt ceiling fight, the invasion of the southern border, as horrific as these are, and they are horrific, but the destruction of our country, the artificial intelligence, but the destruction of mankind. | ||
| And it's happening. And obviously we're fighting on a lot of fronts. | ||
| We're going to go talk about this invasion in a minute. | ||
| And then Peter Navarro is going to come in. | ||
| They're lying to you with a straight face about this banking crisis, the bailout. | ||
| With J.P. Morgan, FDIC depositors, that would be you. | ||
| The taxpayers in this country are going to be left holding the bag for this thing of most of the losses. | ||
| And Biden just looked right in there and said, this is not a taxpayer bail, just a complete lie. | ||
| And of course, the crisis not only has not Stopped. | ||
| It's exacerbating. | ||
| And now they're going to the old trick. | ||
| We just had Congressman Burchett on here last night. | ||
| As soon as he got off, they announced that Biden blinked. | ||
| There's going to be a meeting on the 9th at the White House with all the leadership. | ||
| But then the White House put out and says he's not prepared to give. | ||
| It's got to be a clean debt ceiling lift. | ||
| And Janet Yellen comes at the same time. | ||
| And says, oh, by the way, because of tax revenues being less, we're going to run our money June 1st. | ||
| First thing she has to do is give us the financial model. | ||
| We don't trust any of the lies they tell us anymore. | ||
| Just throwing out numbers. | ||
| Don't throw out numbers. Give us your model. | ||
| Let's see. Let's see why you were so far off from the first time. | ||
| You know, we don't believe anything this regime says. | ||
| All they do is lie to you with a straight face. | ||
| To get more understanding of this, go to birchgold.com slash Bannon and download The End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
| It's a three-part series. | ||
| There's going to be many more parts to come. | ||
| The third installment is The Debt Trap. | ||
| It immerses you in everything you need to understand about where we are with the destruction of the U.S. dollar as a global currency, as the prime reserve currency. | ||
| And now we're in it. Remember, you're head of the creditors committee. | ||
| You're at the head of the table here. | ||
| So you've got to be knowledgeable. | ||
| Also, if you go talk about your IRAs or your 401ks, all of that, get one of the specialists at Birch Gold. | ||
| You can get it by birchgold.com slash Ben and Phillip Patrick and the team. | ||
| A slight technical problem. | ||
| We're not going to be able to get Ben Berquamp down in El Salvador. | ||
| We had a great report there. | ||
| We'll hopefully get Ben this afternoon or tomorrow. | ||
| He's down there on a big investigation. | ||
| Look forward to that. We do have Todd Benzman. | ||
| Todd Benzman's been in Reynosa. | ||
| He's been in Juarez on the Mexican side in El Paso and Brownsville on the American side. | ||
| Amazing piece up in the Federalist. | ||
| Todd, tell us about... | ||
| You've been warning for a long time about this invasion, particularly when Title 42 comes off. | ||
| The Biden regime is trying to downplay this and they've got guys up on Capitol Hill lying nonstop. | ||
| Give us your assessment of where we stand on the eve of Title 42 being the Band-Aid being ripped off. | ||
| The important thing to know right now as of today is that all available Border Patrol detention space where they can keep immigrants bottled up while they quote-unquote process them back to Mexico and their home countries is filled and we're still 10 days out. | ||
| The Venezuelans have blown off CBP-1 and this whole humanitarian permit thing and they have been just pouring across thousands a day, 6,000 a day between Juarez and Matamoros and they've filled up all the detention centers and they're still pouring over. | ||
| So what this tells us is If they don't figure out a way to contain and hold all of these immigrants, they're just going to have to let them go on personal recognizance. | ||
| And I think that's what all the immigrants are hoping for, and that's what the advocates and their champions are hoping for as well. | ||
| It's called safe street releases. | ||
| Watch for safe street releases where you just have, we can't process you at all. | ||
| You're on your own. Good luck. | ||
| Go turn yourself in someday. | ||
| We're just gonna let you go. | ||
| We don't have a room for you. But hold it. | ||
| You're being too gentlemanly. | ||
| They're not hoping for it. | ||
| They're not praying for it. They're planning on it. | ||
| This thing is very well organized. | ||
| The Biden regime has no intention of trying to stop this whatsoever. | ||
| They're gonna try to exacerbate it. | ||
| We just had Andy Biggs on here late last week. | ||
| That had gotten off a call, a conference call, with senior county officials on the frontline counties down there in the southern border of Arizona, where they said Border Patrol just told them. | ||
| They said, hey, we think there's 700,000 to a million strung out on the entire 2,000-mile border, southern border, and we don't have the resources. | ||
| And the Biden regime's not giving us the resources. | ||
| And they're going to surge across And to your point, there's no way we can process them, and they're going to come up with this safe street or whatever this term of art is. | ||
| Safe street releases. People have to understand something. | ||
| This is what the regime is planning right now. | ||
| Give me a sense. When you're in Juarez and you're in Reynosa, two frontline cities, megacities now, right across one from Brownsville, the other from El Paso, When you're down there in the camps, they got the NGOs. | ||
| I mean, they're planning and plotting this thing every day. | ||
| This is just not something that's going to just kind of happen. | ||
| They're working on this. | ||
| Am I incorrect on that, sir? | ||
| Oh, you're absolutely correct. | ||
| What's happening is that there are certain words that you have to say when you cross the border that will get you into the country. | ||
| And those words... | ||
| Right now are being practiced and spread among the immigrants for the day, May 11th, when Title 42 goes away. | ||
| There's no doubt. Plus, written into the policy is a requirement that every immigrant have immigration lawyer present at their initial screening for asylum. | ||
| So that almost guarantees that, you know, they're not going to say the wrong thing. | ||
| They'll be able to buy time that forces their release. | ||
| That's the whole game is get released. | ||
| Just get released by hook or by crook and you're in forever. | ||
| Now the Federalist piece that I wrote today that's published in the Federalist from Reynosa is interesting. | ||
| You should watch for Reynosa because Reynosa is filled with about 15,000 Haitians and unlike the Venezuelans, Title 42 is still working. | ||
| on the Haitians because we've been using it to air deport them all the way back to Haiti under Title 42. | ||
| But that goes away on May 12. | ||
| And the thing to watch for that is thousands and thousands of Haitians will suddenly join the Venezuelans who have already filled up all the detention facilities. | ||
| And that's just going to tip the whole thing. | ||
| That's the straw that'll break the whole camel's back are these Haitians. | ||
| And not just in Reynosa, they're all over Mexico. | ||
| Right now they don't want to cross, but they probably will cross after May 12 when they figure out the right words to say. | ||
| But all that is detailed, the policy of that is detailed in my Federalist piece. | ||
| Walk me through 42. | ||
| What is your current thinking of when this actually comes off? | ||
| And then I want to ask you about the amount of people there and then what actions should be taken because I hear a lot of hearings and a lot of banging on Mayorkas. | ||
| But so far there's no action. | ||
| There's no counteraction. That's coming in there. | ||
| I didn't see it in McCarthy's plan to literally strip DHS of their money so they can't continue to do this. | ||
| They can't continue to exacerbate this. | ||
| Walk me through, when in your best thinking is Title 42 going to come off? | ||
| 11.59pm on May 11 is when it's supposed to end. | ||
| And on May 12 is the new system. | ||
| The new system, you should get familiar with this. | ||
| I'll be talking about the new system. | ||
| Title VIII expedited removal. | ||
| Expedited removal, I put in air quotes because it's no such thing. | ||
| There is no expedited removal. | ||
| Mayorkas is out there saying we are going to be able to immediately deport people within a day or two of them crossing the border, except They're going to claim asylum and they can delay that and then they can appeal and delay it further to the point where we can't hold them anywhere or for long so safe street releases is probably coming. | ||
| Family units expect to see a ton of family units because the administration is respecting, they said, what's called the Flores Settlement. | ||
| which means we can't hold them for 20 more than 20 days even if we wanted to and we don't want to right now this administration so family units will have like a red carpet pathway in I think unaccompanied minors are exempt completely from anything they all just get in right straight in mainlined into the country We've already had 350,000 of those in the last 24 months. | ||
| So unaccompanied minors, family units, red carpet pathway is what I expect. | ||
| The Haitians are going to not be afraid of 42 anymore or expedited removal. | ||
| They're going to join in. | ||
| And then what you'll have after that is just the system is going to collapse. | ||
| It's called Broken Arrow. | ||
| If you've ever heard of Broken Arrow in the Vietnam Where the guy was like, just bomb me and my position, we're overrun. | ||
| That's what I anticipate. | ||
| Within a few days, it'll take vanguards of the migrants. | ||
| We'll have to cross in and test to see what happens. | ||
| And then if they're getting released, it's on, baby. | ||
| Talk to us about the collapse of the system. | ||
| Because this gets to the front line. | ||
| I mean, every town's a border town. | ||
| Every state's a border state. | ||
| But this is really going to collapse these communities in the Rio Grande Valley, in southern Arizona, that are at the front line of this, where you're going to see the biggest surges, right, from El Paso, Texas, from the Gulf all the way to El Paso, and then you're going to see in southern Arizona. | ||
| When you talk about a collapse of the system, walk me through that. | ||
| Well, the cities right now are not optimistic. | ||
| That's a Benzman understatement. | ||
| They're declaring emergencies. | ||
| The city of Laredo just declared an emergency. | ||
| El Paso, Brownsville was supposed to have declared an emergency a couple days ago, but they held off. | ||
| And the reason is because if you don't have any place to put these illegal immigrants while you're doing your new expedited removal, you have to release them. | ||
| And when you release thousands and thousands of people into the streets, they have to go somewhere. | ||
| And that means wandering around. | ||
| We saw this in El Paso just a few months ago, November, December, and a little bit in January, where this happened. | ||
| The system collapsed and you had just thousands of immigrants wandering around begging. | ||
| sleeping on the airport floors, terrible political optics. | ||
| The administration came in and kind of cleaned it up before Biden went to go visit, and they put in this whole new system and everything. | ||
| I think that we're going to probably see a lot of that in a lot of other places besides El Paso, but including El Paso. | ||
| That's system collapse. | ||
| That's Broken Arrow. Okay, hang her for one second. | ||
| Todd, I got to keep you because I want to get to the situation in Houston. | ||
| I want to bring in Peter Navarro. | ||
| Peter, you were really the wingman for President Trump when he stopped this madness. | ||
| Give us your sense now. | ||
| I know it gets to President Trump to see what's happened, but it must really rip your heart out, given all the hard work you did. | ||
| Of course, in the conversation I had with President Trump on Friday, he talked specifically about your idea of coming back When you walked in and said, hey, boss, I think we can use the tariffs to get the Mexican government's mind right. | ||
| But walk me through now. It's far worse than it was. | ||
| Talk to me, Peter Navarro's assessment, and what do we do here? | ||
| The old expression, Katie, bar the door. | ||
| I'm nauseous, and I want to cry at the same time. | ||
| This is a catastrophic invasion, and I go back to my early days As an economics student, when James Q. Wilson introduced me to the concept of concentrated benefits and diffuse costs in the political arena. | ||
| When you have concentrated benefits to the corporate elites, the globalists who want to import this cheap labor, the concentrated benefits to the Democratic Party who think they can swing elections, and all of these diffuse costs across 300 million Americans Particularly the deplorables with respect to just downward pressure on wages, overcrowding at schools, particularly in the border areas. | ||
| It's just overwhelming our public social welfare network. | ||
| The numbers are staggering, but these costs will be so diffused and slow moving. | ||
| It's the frog in the pan that's coming to a slow boil. | ||
| The Biden wave hits, it's going to be catastrophic. | ||
| I think that the president is going to campaign heavily on this. | ||
| I think that what he should state today or tomorrow is that every single person that crossed that border illegally since Joe Biden became president will be sent back to wherever they came as quickly as possible. | ||
| No mercy. | ||
| It's got to be a tough policy, because as soon as they're here for a while, then it's the Lindsey Graham asylum Republican soft touch, and those guys are just useful idiots for the corporatists who love that solving our labor problem and our inflation problem by depressing the wages of black, brown, and blue-collar Americans. | ||
| The best solution was the one we had. | ||
| It was the safe Third Nation that I played a little bit of a role in getting with Pat Cipollone that the boss got done in like 24 hours. | ||
| Yeah, that's a big part of it. | ||
| And of course, build that frigging wall. | ||
| It's time, both a concrete one and a digital one, Steve. | ||
| But the corporate media, the beat goes on. | ||
| You get a little bit of like Like stuff on Fox where they show some pictures and then it's crickets again. | ||
| They want this. | ||
| They want this. | ||
| You got Abbott talking about illegal aliens in Houston. | ||
| They even jump on him. The tragedy of Carrie Lake is this. | ||
| Because this woman on day one would have set the tone and tempo for this entire country in Arizona. | ||
| And she was not allowed to do that because that election was stolen from her by a manipulation on Election Day by Katie Hobbs and her minions. | ||
| And it just I mean, people, look, get mad, but get even here. | ||
| We need the 2024 election to be a blowout. | ||
| And this, I mean, it's like they're going to try to take us down the Roe v. | ||
| Wade Second Amendment road. | ||
| They do it every freaking time. | ||
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But this- This is an existential threat. | |
| Communist China is an existential threat. | ||
| The debt limit, by the way, I have a really nice piece in the Washington Times on that. | ||
| Hang on, let me get... | ||
| I want to get Benzman back in here. | ||
| I'm going to come back to you with all that. | ||
| Hang on a second. Todd, back in 22, May of 22, you were reporting from this area of Houston that you said is basically essentially it's illegal aliens. | ||
| I think it's 100,000. | ||
| It's a colony there where they had this shooting the other day of the guy who went off. | ||
| on his next door neighbor and killed, I think, five or six people, including a little kid. | ||
| Walk me through that. We've got colonies here in the United States now, and when Abbott even brought it up, oh my God, the mainstream media was just terrible. | ||
| You even said they're illegal aliens. | ||
| How can you say that? | ||
| The dead ones are in heaven. | ||
| There's no illegal aliens in heaven. | ||
| That's not the point. Tell me about this situation in Houston, sir. | ||
| Well, the whole backdrop to the massacre is that it happened in the largest colony of illegal immigrants in the nation. | ||
| This is in an area called Liberty County, spilling over into San Jacinto County, and this did not happen in a vacuum. | ||
| This is a safe zone from ICE deportation. | ||
| The cartels are highly active. | ||
| We have probably upwards of 75,000 Illegal immigrants that have bought land, owner to buyer financing schemes that is tailor made for illegal immigrants who can't get regular bank loans. | ||
| And so they have just flocked to this area, clear-cut, you know, 40, 50 miles of forest. | ||
| And they're living there in these colonias that look like Central America. | ||
| I've spent a lot of time down there. | ||
| When I'm driving around and reporting in this area, it's like I'm in another country. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| The mainstream media will not report this, but the reason it's important to report is because ICE and the Federals will not touch this area, and it is filled with illegal immigrants, cartel activity, drug trafficking, human slavery. | ||
| There was a case just a year or two ago of one of them, you know, chained two women to a bed and raped them for a couple of weeks before killing them. | ||
| We've had middle school kids just a couple of months ago were found riddled with bullets in a car out there, 16-year-old girl found dumped in a ditch, a body found with a gun buried in a shallow grave. | ||
| That's the kind of stuff that's happening out there and has been happening all along because there's just no enforcement. | ||
| The reason I know about this is because my book, Overrun, the last chapter of the book is dedicated to that community to show the implications of this mass migration crisis. | ||
| Those kind of communities are cropping up in one degree or another all over America right now. | ||
| Tent cities, places where people are congregating and buying land or renting up places and trailers and setting up, and nobody's bothering to arrest and deport because the administration ended— But this is not even where—it's bad enough, the ICE agents, the federal government, the FBI, ICE agents won't go do it, but this is all the state of Texas. | ||
| This is in Texas. | ||
| This is a colony of Central America with out-of-control gang control. | ||
| They control a colony, and Abbott and these guys are totally silent about it. | ||
| Todd, we've got to bounce. | ||
| Where do they get the book? Where do you get your writings? | ||
| The Federalists, I want Grace and Captain Bannon to put this article on The Federalists up. | ||
| Your head will blow up, as it should. | ||
| Where do people get your content? | ||
| Yeah, first of all, Overrun is available anywhere books are sold, Amazon, bookstores, etc., And you can follow me at BenzmanTodd on Twitter and TBenzman at Getter. | ||
| I'm also on Truth Social, all the usual places. | ||
| Can we put Todd's cover, his book, back up overrun for a second? | ||
| That photo is the famous photo from Del Rio at the International Bridge. | ||
| Just understand, there are more Haitians right now, 15,000 Haitians ready to come across, and that's just 15,000 of up to a million Haitians. | ||
| On the trigger, ready to come. | ||
| Benzman, you're a patriot and a hero. | ||
| Thank you very much, brother. Thank you. | ||
| Peter Navarro is going to break this down for us, the 2024 campaign, maybe some polling, and also the debt ceiling. |
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