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May 1, 2023 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 2699: Massive Wins In Delaware For MAGA

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josh hammer

08:15

steve bannon

12:08

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andrew ross sorkin

01:25

paul harvey

02:16

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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified		Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
		The people had a belly full of it.
		I know you don't like hearing that.
		I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
		It's going to happen.
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
jake tapper ▲ ● ▼		MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified		Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified		War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
		Hail the community!
		Hail the President!
		Hail the Senate!
		Hail the Senate!
		We will not let them continue without fierce opposition, and we stand here today in defiance of their siege and destroy their symbols of oppression.
		Symbols of oppression.
		House of Representatives!
		We will not let them continue without fierce opposition, and we stand here today in defiance of their siege and destroy their symbols of oppression.
		We will not let them continue without fierce opposition, and we stand here today in defiance of their siege and destroy their symbols of oppression.
		Thank you.
		Oh!
		We must build community outside of the virtual.
		Rebellion comes in many forms, to each and their own, within their own capabilities and their own situation.
		For some of us, merely existing one more day is victory.
		But for those of us who can we must stand up for those who cannot Addiction so what we were doing is trying to destroy the symbols of the things that are caused to that cause harm that oppress us whether that is People's theocratic views trying to instill theocratic rule
		in a supposed secular society whether that is the Supreme Court utilizing their powers to decimate our rights, give power to those who are further taking our rights away from us.
		The symbol of the flag was meant to represent the communities that people in authoritative positions that use that to cause harm to those who need the most protection.
		They indoctrinate them into their roles based on fear and hatred.
		We just had our opening ceremony and it seemed to be very well received.
		We've got over 800 people registered to attend, and we've got panel discussions and presenters starting probably any minute now.
		We've had threats, and there are protesters, quite a few of them outside.
		We have no problem with them protesting.
		That's their right to do, as long as they keep it out there and let us do what we need to do safely inside.
		Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.
		Amen. Well, to me, it's always been about opposition to theocracy and authoritarianism.
		Satan, to me, is a very powerful symbol of rebellion and anti-authoritarianism.
		And, you know, that's kind of what it is to me.
		Obviously, everyone is here for their own reasons.
		For me, I don't like being told what to do, and I don't like people telling other people what to do either.
		I've received death threats leading up to this.
		I'm sure there's been death threats sent to our headquarters.
		Back in the summertime, there was an arson attack in our headquarters that did a substantial amount of damage and could have killed a number of people inside, including visitors.
		So it's not just idle threats.
		People actually, you know, do stuff.
		And we had our director of programming for SatanCon a few years ago had a gunman show up at her house and threatened to kill her, and the police had to come and take him away.
paul harvey ▲ ● ▼		If I were the devil, If I were the prince of darkness, I'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness, and I'd have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I wouldn't be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree.
		The. So I'd set about however necessary to take over the United States.
		I'd subvert the churches first.
		I'd begin with a campaign of whispers.
		With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve.
		Do as you please. To the young, I would whisper that the Bible is a myth.
		I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around.
		I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is square.
		And then I'd get organized.
		I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting.
		I'd peddle narcotics to whom I could.
		I'd tranquilize the rest with pills.
		If I were the devil, I'd soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves, and nations at war with themselves, until each in its turn was consumed.
		And I'd have mesmerizing media fanning the flame.
		If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions.
		Just let those run wild.
		Until before you knew it, you'd have to have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door.
		Within a decade, I'd have prisons overflowing.
		I'd have judges promoting pornography.
unidentified		We're talking about 8-year-olds and 9-year-olds and 11-year-olds and 12-year-olds.
		He's got over 600 images, gobs of video footage, of these children.
		But you say this does not signal a heinous or egregious child pornography offense.
		And then you went on to say the defendant was merely trying to satisfy his curiosity.
		That's somehow a reason to only give him three months.
		Help me understand this.
paul harvey ▲ ● ▼		Soon I could evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, and then from the houses of Congress.
		I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money.
		If I were the devil, I'd take from those who have and give to those who want it until I could kill the incentive of the ambitious.
		I would caution against extremes.
unidentified		Donald Trump and the magnet Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic.
paul harvey ▲ ● ▼		I would convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun, that what you see on TV is the way to be.
paul harvey ▲ ● ▼		In other words, if I were the devil, I'd just keep right on doing what he's doing.
unidentified		Paul Harvey. Good day.
andrew ross sorkin ▲ ● ▼		It's been with so many different bidders, the FDIC in the middle, and of course Janet Yellen.
unidentified		Tell us about it. It's historic.
		It was a competitive bidding process.
		This weekend was fast and furious.
		But yes, the news this morning is that JPMorgan is acquiring First Republic directly from the FDIC, which seized and immediately sold the faltering bank.
		This transaction, the result of a competitive bidding process, at least according to the FDIC and JPMorgan, Includes a majority of First Republic's assets, including $173 billion in loans and $30 billion in securities.
		Specific terms for First Republic's underwater assets are not quite known yet.
		We should learn more about that over the course of the next few hours.
		But the FDIC and JPMorgan entered a loss share agreement where they'll basically share in the losses and potential recoveries from some of First Republic's single-family residential and commercial loans.
		It purchased of the former First Republic Bank.
		And JPMorgan will assume about $92 billion in deposits.
		That includes the $30 billion in uninsured deposits that were infused into First Republic by itself and other large banks in March in an effort to prevent any contagion effects from the failures of Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank.
		As part of this transaction, JPMorgan intends to repay the deposits from its large banking peers or eliminate them as part of the consolidation.
		First Republic will go down as the second largest bank failure in U.S. history that's bigger than Silicon Valley Bank.
		In a statement out earlier this morning, J.P. Morgan Chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon said, quote, our government invited us and others to step up and we did.
		Our financial strength capabilities and business model allowed us to develop a bid to execute the transaction in a way to minimize costs to the deposit insurance fund.
		FDIC estimates that the cost of that deposit insurance fund will be about $13 billion as a result of this transaction.
		JPMorgan will not be assuming First Republic's corporate debt or preferred stock.
		Shares currently trading just under $2 per share in pre-market, so not quite at zero, but they've gone down about 98 % so far this year, guys.
andrew ross sorkin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, Leslie, there's so many questions this morning that I think so many people have.
		The first of which is, you know, JPMorgan was obviously in the hunt.
		PNC was there this weekend.
		We saw Bank of America in there.
		There were questions about whether the Federal Reserve and the Treasury were going to have to waive some of the requirements around size in terms of how big JPMorgan and Bank of America in particular already are.
		I'm curious if we know what kind of waivers were necessary to To complete this transaction.
		And ultimately, what we really think the cost is going to be to the FDIC. I know $13 billion is the figure that's being bandied about, but I'm assuming that if there are potentially larger losses, is it cut off at $13?
		Yeah. Or could it be higher?
unidentified		Well... Yeah, I think it could be higher.
		They've got that loss share agreement there in place, which would suggest that it could be higher depending on what the recoveries look like for the various assets that they are embarking on that loss share agreement with.
		But no, it's a great question in terms of What the various regulatory thresholds are, that was my main question as well, because there was a lot of reporting over the weekend, largely from other outlets, that suggested that PNC would be the leader here just because they don't necessarily have to Get around those regulatory constraints in terms of making a bigger bank bigger.
		So hopefully we will learn more in the various calls that are happening later today, but there isn't any detail in the releases that we have so far with regard to any changes for those thresholds.
andrew ross sorkin ▲ ● ▼		No, I've been trying to chase that down.
		The other one I was trying to chase down, maybe you've done better than I have, is just the idea of were there any waivers around future lawsuits, legal liability, and the like, given the experience that Jamie Dimon in particular had in 2008 around Washington Mutual, around Bear Stearns, the list goes on, and the amount of liabilities and ongoing...
		Ongoing lawsuits that then took place for four or five years, and I think he would say not only cost the bank billions of dollars, but a headline risk, if you will, and whether that is in the offing as well this time.
unidentified		Yeah, that's a great question because in the release, J.P. Morgan says kind of what they're anticipating in terms of restructuring costs, but they don't have a specific line item with regard to legal liability and any kind of expectation they have on that front.
		So I agree. That's something that hopefully we'll learn more potentially in the investor presentation that's due out at 7, but we also have a slew of calls in the 8 o'clock hour as well that we should be able to get some more information on that front.
		Leslie, regulators had to be in a bit of a bind here.
		They may not have wanted J.P. Morgan to get any bigger, but they also are in a position of wanting to make sure they're getting the best possible deal for the remaining assets of this bank.
		They don't want to look like they were picking a smaller bank at higher terms, as I think we saw earlier, with some of the assets that got sold off from Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank.
		They want to be in a position of knowing that this is going to go okay.
		First Republic had a garbage portfolio.
		It was worse than Silicon Valley banks just in terms of the loans that they'd been providing.
		Mortgages for really expensive houses at very low loans for very long periods of time.
		I mean, that's something that you probably have to be pretty big to be able to take over and deal with and say, no problem, we're going to do okay with this.
		Not only that, but then they had to reach out in order to fill the gap that they had on their balance sheet.
		They had to reach out to the Fed and take out loans in order to continue operations at 5%, which they were just operating essentially at a loss as a result of that.
		I think you're right, Becky, that if the If the portfolio looked a bit more attractive, they would have been able to do just a regular way.
		M&A deal, maybe a bit more distressed over the last few weeks, but clearly this was the outcome that had to take place in order to get the deal done.
		And I think the FDIC did learn from the events of March and decided that this kind of seize and sale idea where they immediately seized it, but lined up a buyer in the meantime was the best outcome to kind of ring fence the issues here.
		And I think that's a really good thing.
		CCB! Everything's just beginning For the games you want to play Bring it on and now we'll fight to the end Just watch and see It's all started Everything's begun And you are over Cause we're taking down the CCB! Spread the word all through Hong Kong We rejoice when there's no more.
		Let's take down the CCD. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
		It's Monday, 1 May in the year of World War II, 2023.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Welcome here into World War II. We've got a lot to get through.
		They have a slight technical problem in the first segment.
		We're working through that.
		I want to bring up my – we've got a bunch of guests, a ton of news, lots of clips.
		We started off with SatanCon, and then, of course, Max Evans' great—it went viral last week—talking about Paul Harvey's about the devil.
		You see it's SatanCon right there, right in your grill.
		Going to tear the Holy Bible up right in front of you, right, and unbaptized people.
		Then we had another taxpayer bailout.
		It's not J.P. Morgan.
		They're going to get the upside.
		You're going to share in the downside.
		We'll get to that. We got Cortez later in the show to break the entire another Biden failed bank in.
		Let's go to Josh Hammer.
		Josh, you wrote an incredible piece the other day.
		You wrote an incredible piece on going to the Heritage.
		Was it the 50th anniversary and having Tucker Carlson Set the stage there, because at that time, no one knew, including Tucker, that he had been termed the demonic Murdochs.
		Talk about starting about the devil, right?
		The demonic Murdochs had already decided to fire him on that Friday night.
		Walk me through your article, because this is about the fight for civilization.
		That's why I wanted to start with this kind of demonic, satanic presence in Boston this weekend.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Steve, thanks as always for having me.
		So look, I mean, I was at the Heritage 50th Anniversary Gala.
		They had Tucker Carlson give the keynote address, which, by the way, I feel just compelled to point out right off the top, that was a huge deal.
		I mean, if you recall, it was less than three years ago where the old Heritage Foundation president, Kay Cole James, who was absolutely horrible, you know, after the George Floyd riots started, she accused America of being systemically racist, and Tucker Carlson devoted I think one or two nights on air back during the George Floyd riots to just utterly excoriating K. Cole James and the Heritage Foundation.
		So the fact that Heritage had Tucker here under their new president, Kevin Roberts, is a total 180.
		And that in and of itself was a big deal.
		So, you know, I went to this gala, you know, it was a massive, I think like 2,300 people attending, you know, lots of presentations, the fancy fireworks over the Potomac.
		But the highlight was definitely Tucker's keynote address.
		And he was sensational. I mean, I'm a huge Tucker Carlson fan, been on his show.
		Longtime fan of his for many years now.
		And in his speech, he's a very funny guy, right?
		I mean, Tucker has his slapstick humor.
		He was making fun of his Episcopalian faith.
		I mean, it was a lot of kind of tongue-in-cheek kind of humor.
		But when he got to the actual substance of his remarks, and as he kind of hit his stride, it became very clear of the message that he was trying to impart unto all of us in the audience.
		And that message was basically that We live in a fundamentally different era than when Tucker himself kind of came of age.
		You know, I actually didn't even realize Tucker's first job after he graduated college was as a copy editor for an old former heritage journal.
		And he basically said that when, you know, back in the early to mid-90s when he was kind of coming of age in the movement in D.C. and all of that, it was kind of, we on the right were going against the left, but there was still kind of a common sense We were all trying to ultimately do the same thing.
		We were trying to grow the economy.
		We were trying to pursue the common good.
		We were trying to fundamentally have a good country, a fortified, durable, resilient country with a healthy culture that would ultimately lead to the human flourishing of the citizenry.
		And back then, to kind of paraphrase Tucker, you know, the right will put out their arguments, the left will put out their arguments, and may the best think tank white paper win.
		But here's the point, and this is the point that Tucker kind of drove home.
		It's a point that I have made for many years now.
		It's really kind of being encapsulated by this phrase that my friend Dave Ruboy created of so-called knowing what time it is.
		And what Tucker basically said is that 30 years past, his heritage internship back in the early 90s, that's just not the situation, okay?
		We are not now two kind of amicably sparring partisans.
		Trying to do the same thing just through slightly different means.
		No. No, that's not what's going on here.
		We are dealing with, much of the time, a fundamentally and profoundly evil, and to use your word, demonic and satanic force.
		That is fundamentally what is going on when we look at a lot of the current issues.
		Not all of them. I mean, not every single issue, obviously, that the liberals or the lefties take.
		is fundamentally satanic, but a lot of them these days really, really are.
		I mean, how else can you possibly describe trying to indoctrinate kindergarteners or first graders into transgenderism with a drag queen?
		I mean, that is fundamentally demonic.
		That is absolutely demonic.
		And that really was what Tucker said.
		He basically said, we are not now in kind of a civil disagreement between sparring partisans.
		Rather, and this is kind of my take on it that I put in the column, We are fundamentally now in a battle of really kind of theology and anthropology, where we have fundamentally different views of mankind and man's relation to his fellow man, to the state, and ultimately, of course, to God himself.
		That really is the current state of the land, and that was kind of the key takeaway of Tucker's speech, which, as you said, none of us knew, and Tucker himself apparently did not know, would, I guess, be the last public appearance that he would give as a Fox News host.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I want to get back to the Murdochs in a second, some things that went on, but I think it's in your column as I read it, you refer to Lincoln.
		Even during the Civil War, one of Lincoln's, one of the phrases there, we pray the same God.
		There was obviously a big separation between what people thought of on the issue of slavery and the issue of the enslavement of fellow human beings.
		And not that that's pretty fundamental, but there were other aspects of it too that we still had a common civilization, a common culture.
		A lot of that's gone today.
unidentified		Would you agree? Yeah, absolutely.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah. So with that quote, I think what I was doing was I was taking a quote from Ryan Williams, my friend, who's the president of Claremont Institute.
		But he said that in an interview a couple of years ago, and Ryan was absolutely right to say it.
		I mean, if you think back to the 1850s, I mean, in the buildup to this horrific, horrific, bloody conflict that almost ended the American experiment less than a century in, Think of 1858 when Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas were battling each other up and down through the state of Illinois for that U.S. Senate seat at that time.
		They had profound disagreements fundamentally over the moral worth, the moral dignity of their black fellow Americans or not fellow Americans, of course, as the pro-slavery crowd would argue.
		But fundamentally, even the people who took the morally abhorrent position of being pro-slavery, or as Stephen Douglas was, he professed indifference on the question, even that side of that debate, they still went to church, they still read the Bible, they still at least professed to believe in the same God and a similar kind of anthropology of mankind, to kind of use the phrase that I just used.
		That simply is not the case today.
		That simply is not the case.
		So our opposition on the other side, they're not going to church.
		They're not going to synagogue. They're not reading the Bible.
		They're not informed by fundamental capital T truth.
		They're not informed by God or godliness or virtue or substantive justice or really any of the kind of fundamental precepts that a Republican citizenry cannot long endure without.
		So we really are dealing with a force right now that I think is increasingly difficult to describe as motivated or undergirded by anything other than demonic evil forces.
		And again, that's not necessarily true if you disagree on a tax rate or whatever.
		Not every policy Is capital G good versus capital E evil?
		But a lot of them these days are, especially when it gets to these true kind of culture war, civilizational fights, the likes of which really kind of animate my commentary, which animated Tucker's nightly monologues on Fox News back when he was there.
		And I think that he was absolutely right to underscore that point.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		There's been a story out, and it's been confirmed in a couple of different news sources, that Murdoch had had a dinner, I guess, with Tucker a week or a couple weeks before.
		And I think his at-time fiancé Say was there, and she turns out she was an evangelical Christian.
		Murdoch and the family got a little concerned, supposedly according to the reporting, that she was very spiritual, very lived Christianity.
		She made some comments about Tucker and the dinner, and I think Tucker was there where Tucker talked about some of the spiritual issues, and she said something that he was providential, and Murdochs afterwards were very freaked out, and then when they made this decision, I think Friday, Afternoon, early evening in Los Angeles, the heritage speech or the heritage part of Tucker's speech played into that.
		What do you have to say with that, with people that supposedly are on our side of the football, when they hear the Josh Hammers and they go, hey, we don't want any part of this.
		We want deregulation, we want lower taxes, we want American military involvement throughout the world, but where Tucker and Josh and Bannon and the rest of these guys I get on this civilizational internal war.
		We're not part of that. What say you?
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Look, I mean, Steve, we're fundamentally fighting different fights.
		I mean, you know, if the same can even be said of the forces of conservatism, Inc., that some of them, I mean, I mean, query whether they even are fighting a fight.
		I mean, there are some people who are in this for kind of the theatrics or in this for the antics.
		Who are in this to kind of maximize shareholder returns on investments.
		And there's nothing wrong, of course, with maximizing shareholder returns on investments or anything like that.
		But on the other hand, there are some of us, and if I can be a little self-assuming just for a second here, I count myself among this crowd.
		Who at least think that we are in this to try to do some small iota of good.
		I mean look, I mean Steve, you had a great career on Wall Street years ago.
		I went to one of the top law schools in the country.
		I was working at Kirkland Ellis, one of the most prestigious law firms in the world.
		Toss all that aside and get into this kind of commentary, writing, podcasting, public intellectual, for lack of a better term, this whole space, if I didn't actually sincerely believe what I was doing.
		And, you know, I mean, obviously I think that there are some people for whom that simply is not the case.
		So I think that's part of what is going on here is simply what is motivating you, not just you, Steve, but kind of just you more generally out there in the right-of-center kind of corporate or commentary space.
		That's part of what's going on here.
		Part of it also... I think it's kind of just a personality difference.
		I mean, there are some people who have been just so kind of firmly ensconced in their various institutions, especially in some of these kind of calcified think tanks and kind of journals that go back 50, 67 years and haven't actually conserved a whole lot despite their purported mission to conserve the American experiment.
		There are some people who have just gotten so, so used to kind of the steady paychecks and kind of putting out the same pablum week in and week out.
		That when a Tucker Carlson comes on, I mean, Tucker, if you compare his commentaries, his nightly monologues, his segments, the guests, frankly, that he brought in onto his show, just relative to the overwhelming majority of the other programming at Fox, you know, he was fundamentally different.
		You know, to be clear, there are obviously some other good people at Fox.
		I'm personally a big fan of Laura Ingraham.
		I love Laura's show as well.
		But if you kind of just compare Tucker's nightly message to most of the other programming there when it comes to Russia and Ukraine, when it comes to how we should view corporate America, immigration and race and crime, I mean, it was just a very, very, very different message.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Josh, how do people get to the Newsweek op-ed section in your social media?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		This article is amazing.
josh hammer ▲ ● ▼		Thank you. Yeah, so newsweek.com slash opinion and also on Twitter and Getter as well, Josh underscore Hammer.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Josh, thank you very much.
		It's Tucker Carlson and the civilizational fight, as only Josh Hammer can write it and frame it.
		short break back in the warm in just a second host stephen k van okay welcome back it is That's the International Day of the bad, the atheists, Marxists, communists that are still a central enemy, both internal, the fifth column here in this country, and what we're fighting with the CCP and the rest throughout the world.
		Be sure you read Josh Hammer's piece.
		It's a very important piece.
		It sets the framework of Tucker Carlson and the fight over Tucker Carlson.
		In perspective, it's a very, very powerful piece.
		Tucker Carlson, The Struggle of Civilizational Sanity.
		Incredible piece. Josh Hammer, just a great, great writer.
		Let's push it. I want Captain Bannon and Grace Chonk to put it up in all the different chat rooms.
		Carly Boney and the great team over at Midnight Rider.
		If you could do it too, I want everybody to read that.
		We've got a lot to go through, a lot of geopolitics, a lot of macro politics in this country, economics, but I want to talk about The wins we are having and the focus we have to have.
		When this interview I did with President Trump, he was gracious enough, it wasn't an interview, I guess it was a conversation we had on Friday.
		And over the weekend I've made the point, and then again on John Frederick's show, the primary's over, it's done.
		We need to get focused, we need to get maniacally focused on the general election.
		And particularly how we're not going to let this one get stolen.
		It is all of our responsibilities.
		Donald J. Trump got 74 million votes in 2020, and he's not 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
		Have you seen all the damage, the incredible massive damage done by this illegitimate regime that currently occupies 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?
		I want to bring in Julianne Murray.
		Julianne, the last time we had you on, you were running, I guess, as AG, but you won a massive.
		Tell us about the case you won in Delaware.
		That's kind of a predicate to what your new gig is.
unidentified		Okay, and I'm back, so thank you for having me.
		All right, when we were on last time, yes, I was running for attorney general, and I had just won a vote-by-mail lawsuit in Delaware.
		The General Assembly was supposed to amend the Delaware Constitution.
		They didn't do it.
		They did it statutorily to allow or to permit vote-by-mail.
		I challenged it while I was a candidate.
		I was not the plaintiff.
		I had voters that were plaintiffs.
		And we won in the lower court and the Delaware Supreme Court about a month before the general election.
		What was huge about it was that the Supreme Court said that if we were going to amend our absentee voting to include vote by mail, it had to be done by a constitutional amendment.
		And the best thing about that constitutional amendment is that it takes two terms.
		So the general election of 2024, our Constitution can't be amended before the general election of 2024.
		So there will be no vote by mail in Delaware in 2024.
		Since I'm still here, since then I lost the AG race by 12,225 votes in Delaware and turned my sights on becoming the GOP chairman because the Republican Party in Delaware has been silent for too long and we're not going to be silent anymore.
		And I won that chair race over the weekend on Saturday.
		I keep getting this.
		I'm just going to keep talking.
		It was an interesting race.
		We had what I would consider to be an establishment chair.
		She's only been in for four years, but she was an attorney general in Delaware back in the 1990s and into the early 2000s.
		And actually left office as the Attorney General to go on to become a judge to give the AG seat to Joe Biden's son, Beau Biden.
		So she has always been viewed in the Republican Party as more establishment.
		And Delaware actually has a huge America First contingent that has been really dissatisfied with You know, how the Republican Party was acting, not being overt enough, not punching back.
		And, you know, I'm very vocal.
		I've got high energy.
		And, you know, I made that pitch to the delegates.
		And here we are. Let me ask you, I want to get to the victory.
		By the way, we have a slight technical problem.
		Is what you want in Delaware, Isn't that applicable in other states like in Pennsylvania?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why is no one, why is it only you that have really gone to the mat about this mail-in ballot fiasco and actually pointed out that it's got to be constitutional or you just can't pass some law?
unidentified		Why is it only, maybe I'm wrong, maybe it's not in other states.
		I looked and it looks like there's a couple of parallels, but then other states just rolled over and only you took it and took it to a slush conclusion.
		Okay, so number one, I'm reserving the right to come back on with you, because I can sort of hear what's going with the technical stuff.
		But Pennsylvania actually did have a case.
		And while our case was pending, the Pennsylvania decision came out, and basically they did all sorts of legal gymnastics.
		to hold that it was constitutional to have vote by mail.
		They had a very similar constitution.
		Massachusetts had exactly the same thing while our case was pending, and Massachusetts also ruled that it was constitutional to have vote by mail.
		The difference in Delaware was that our history, basically every time there has been what I would call an amendment to the absentee categories, It has been done by constitutional amendment.
		It was a really pure legal issue here that we were able to really hone in on that said basically, look, you've done it before.
		And then the other thing was that in 2020, vote by mail was in place, as you know, nationally.
		And it was challenged here in Delaware in 2020.
		And the vote by mail was upheld in Delaware in 2020 under the emergency powers of the General Assembly.
		Not their broad powers.
		So in 2022, they come forward, they don't have the, quote, COVID emergency anymore.
		And they basically say, well, we always had the right to do this.
		It's under our broad powers.
		And what we argued was, no, it's not.
		You have to, you know, this, you cannot, you basically by doing this are offending the Constitution.
		If you want to change the Constitution, you can do that.
		But it's going to take two thirds of both houses over two two year sessions.
		And, you know, we won.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you a dumb question.
unidentified		Could – because we have to just focus on 2024.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Could these other states with other lawyers go and continue to pursue this and get to the point that showed that bail-in ballots are unconstitutional?
unidentified		It's going to really vary by state.
		It's going to vary depending on what the state constitutions say, because election law is largely state law.
		Do I think that there are other cases out there?
		Sure. But for instance, in Pennsylvania, when that decision came down, it was based on Pennsylvania law.
		It wasn't based on federal law.
		So sometimes when you go up the path, the legal path, you have to make a choice of whether it's going to be a state case or a federal case.
		They, you know, and they don't necessarily cross over.
		I can tell you that, you know, now that I'm, you know, have a platform in terms of being a GOP chair, I'm going to be reaching out to other GOP chairs to find out where they are on vote by mail.
		Because I do think that, I mean, I can tell you in 2020, I was actually a gubernatorial candidate in 2020 in Delaware in the general election.
		And I was down by 100,000 votes before the first machine vote was cast in 2020.
		We essentially tied on the machine vote in 2020.
		5,000 vote difference. But the vote by mail made the difference.
		So vote by mail is absolutely an election changer.
		And so as much as we can get that eradicated or more secure, we have to do it.
		And for me personally, I had to attack Delaware.
		I'm working in Delaware. And we are going to make Delaware America first and the first state.
		We're going to stop Biden in his own state and going to need some reorganization funds.
		And last time I was on with you, it was terrific.
		I went to murrayfordelaware.com, so we've just set that up to show you can help out the Delaware GOP because we're going to be ground zero.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Tell us about your victory.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		How did America first mega-candidate win?
unidentified		And what a lot of people would think would be, at best, a Republican establishment, a sleepy Republican Party there.
		How did America first and a mega-candidate actually become GOP chair?
		Actually, strategically.
		People called me the day after the general election and asked me to run for the GOP chair.
		And I actually ran two years ago in 2021 and lost by 15 votes.
		It was a very last-minute kind of campaign.
		So we knew that I had popularity with delegates, and we put a team together, about 15 or 20 of us, It started right after the first of the year.
		We were strategic about it.
		We knew where the delegates were.
		We got delegates placed for coming into the convention.
		I timed my announcement to about five weeks before the general election.
		It was a complete team effort, but we knew which counties we needed to win in and how to get to that number.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Julian, what word would you have?
		Because we've had some people who've won chairmanships.
		There's a couple we're trying to get on, like in Maine.
		We've had these county chairs.
		Obviously, the precinct strategy is a huge part of the war in the posse.
		What would be your word of encouragement and reality check to the MAGA base throughout the country about really starting to take over the GOP from the grassroots level?
unidentified		That you can accomplish anything if you're willing to fight for it.
		It's just how much of yourself you're willing to put into it.
		I stood before that delegation knowing that there were people there that were hating the fact that I was there.
		And I said, we're going to take it to them.
		I am, you know, I'm going to be fearless about this.
		We have to fight.
		We are not going to be silent anymore.
		We just, you know, so I think that you got to dig deep.
		That fight is in all of us.
		And I jokingly, I didn't make the joke, but I said I'm going to use a line from the untouchables.
		What are you prepared to do?
		I'm standing here.
		I am a practicing attorney that is going to be working part-time in my law office just so that I can be the GOP chair and get our candidates elected.
		And I think the other thing that is super important going into 2024, particularly like here in Delaware, is that grassroots involvement.
		I've run two statewide campaigns with We need to be focused on those General Assembly seats, our state legislature seats.
		Get the Republicans who don't normally vote to buy in on issues.
		Voting is an emotional response.
		If we stick to our issues and get people hooked, we're going to bring Republicans out.
		I've read Precinct Strategy.
		I totally subscribe to what he's talking about, and we are going to be doing that here in Delaware.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Julianne, how do people get to you?
		This is very inspirational. Social media, website, all of it.
		How do people get to know you better in your crusade?
unidentified		Okay, I appreciate it. So my Murray for Delaware, M-U-R-R-A-Y for Delaware.com is, you know, is the, it was my old campaign site, but we've been using it as a landing page.
		We're updating right now the DelawareGOP.com site, so it will have my bio and everything on it.
		Right now for Twitter, it's Murray4de.com.
		And then Facebook is Julianne Murray, as I'm looking at my guy.
		For Delaware. So you can find me.
		If you go to your search engine of choice and put in Julianne Murray, you're going to find me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Julianne, I said you were special the first time you were on here, and now you've proven it beyond any shadow of a doubt.
		Great. Congratulations, the new GOP chair for the great state of Delaware.
		Ma'am, thank you very much. One last thing real quick.
unidentified		You called me a hammer the last time you were on.
		Here I am. My husband's now calling me Chairman Hammer.
		You're going to hear much more from me.
		We're going to turn this around.
		I am 53 years old and super motivated to make a difference.
		We're going to get it done. No doubt.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That's what we led with Josh Hammer before you were on, because your name.
		Okay, Julianne, fantastic.
		We'll follow you closely. All right.
unidentified		Thank you so much, Steve. Thank you, ma'am.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Okay, welcome back.
		I hope everybody had a chance to see the conversation I had with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago on Friday.
		We'll be doing clips from that and commenting on it, making observations about it.
		By the way, go to 45book.com for his book, Letters to Trump.
		You don't want to miss that.
		It's absolutely extraordinary.
		It shows you the side of President Trump.
		Some of the side we tried to show in that interview or that conversation.
		That was kind of the 15 and 16 President Trump before the media completely just went absolutely nuts and the judiciary system and all of it to try to tear down and destroy President Trump.
		I've been a big fan of Governor DeSantis as a governor and I think with a little more experience.
		At some future point in time, he may be actually a very good candidate for president, but that's not now.
		And let me be brutally frank, this excursion he took overseas was embarrassing to him.
		He is going to destroy his political career if he continues to listen to these consultants that are going to make $25 or $30 million and the big donors that put in $100 million.
		Ken Griffin doesn't know what he's doing or talking about, about politics in the American people.
		These fat cat donors don't understand it.
		And they sent you on what was a humiliating tour of the world, you know, South Korea, Japan.
		Israel and then this humiliation in England where the Prime Minister would not meet with you.
		And you had this meeting with the top people in the financial community and the top corporations in London, what's called the City of London.
		That's the old part of London that is their Wall Street.
		So when we say City of London, we don't mean London itself.
		That's the old part inside of London that is the Wall Street of really Europe.
		It was humiliating. The Politico story was a humiliation to you.
		You're just not ready for the scale that you need to be ready for.
		It's just simple.
		President Trump gave us four years of peace and prosperity.
		We're in the beginning stages of a third world war, a massive financial crisis.
		We just had another bailout of a bank, and they're not telling you the truth.
		I put it up on Getter. You, the taxpayer, are going to basically underwrite half the losses, and the losses here are going to be substantial.
		Once again, it's another federal government bailout.
		Jamie Dimon said, well, phase one's over these high-tech banks.
		Remember, all the high-tech oligarchs didn't put in a penny.
		They're out scot-free.
		The three banks, Signature Silicon Valley Bank and First Republic, and then let's throw in the crypto bank that went under.
		Make it four. They're not out one penny, but you, the taxpayer, are.
		These are Biden banks that were destroyed by Biden bonds, by Biden inflation.
		Let's talk about the practicality, how we're going to win.
		Linda Rantz is from Missouri, has done all the work on the paper ballots.
		Linda, thank you for coming on.
		And I can already tell them I have to hold you through the break.
		We're a little jammed here today with our technical issues.
		But Linda, let me be brutal.
		Two things. Number one for our audience, Axios has done an interview with the chairman and the CEO of Dominion.
		I've got it up on Getter, and you should just read it.
		You should hear their perspective.
		This is not a particularly – it's not a tough interview.
		It's kind of a softball.
		But you ought to hear the Fox – from their perspective.
		We always love to give both sides of the argument so you can decide, but you ought to hear what Dominion has to say.
		It's an exclusive interview on Axios.
		We now have it up on Getter, and I would ask Mo and Grace Chung to make sure everybody sees it.
		The Guardian over the weekend, and look, The Guardian is a left-wing, the premier left-wing newspaper in the world, but it's a very well-edited paper.
		And Linda, they said essentially that you...
		Because you're one of the drivers and back there, you're going to bankrupt Shasta County, California, unbeknownst to the rubes out there that have voted in paper ballots and hand count.
		And the reason is that it's going to cost millions and millions of dollars that nobody understands except you, and you understand it, but the rubes don't.
		And they're about to bankrupt their entire county.
		Your response? Ma'am.
unidentified		Well, I think everything that's being said right now where hand counting costs so much more money than using machines is just being pushed out.
		to discourage counties from making the change or even looking at the change.
		So in Shasta County, I did some numbers for them based on their last two presidential elections and their June election.
		I don't know if you have slides that you can put up, but the numbers for the additional labor, which is what they're going after.
		So their clerk did an analysis and she said it's going to cost $1.6 million in additional labor.
		Now, I did it based on teams of four, what we've done in Missouri.
		It came out to be about $100,000 in additional labor for a presidential election.
		And even if I'm wrong, thank you, yes, even if I'm wrong, and it's double of that, and that's the Election Day number, if you could skip to number nine or go forward a couple slides, because that's at the polling places on Election Day.
		And they do in-person voting on election day.
		Their polling places rarely get, even in a presidential election, 500 ballots.
		And when we just hand-counted Osage County, Missouri, our largest polling place had 500 ballots and they were done in five hours.
		So it's not more complex, it's not any different, but it's done to discourage.
		And they took these numbers and in the analysis, I went through the analysis done Thank you.
		That's the grand total. So you can see the 2016 line at the top, the 2020, which was slightly more, but they're both in the far right column around $100,000 for all the labor to count up the ballots.
		And then in last June, when they had one of their more local elections, it was only $65,000.
		But even if these are off and you had to double them, they're still nowhere near the $1.6 million that the clerk is saying.
		Now she's adding in a lot of other costs.
		I'm sorry, go ahead. Yeah, hang on.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let me, I want to hold you through the break.
		Okay. We're a little jammed up here with our technical, but I want to hold you through the break and then I think maybe we'll bring you back at six one night when I've got more gap in each segment to walk through each slide.
		But I want to hold you, particularly because the guardian and the, I guess the county supervisor out there, the clerk, was pretty adamant that Linda Rance is going to bankrupt the county.
		Okay, so we're going to take a short break.
		We've got Cash Patel, Derek Harvey, Steve Cortez, We're jammed up, but it's all good.

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