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April 26, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2690: The Collapse Of GM And Ford; Rats Nest In The Pentagon
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peter navarro
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steve bannon
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tiffany justice
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ben harnwell
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chris cuomo
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steve cortes
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tina descovich
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 26 April, in the year of our Lord, 2023, and there's a lot going on in the world, and we're trying to break it down, all the important stuff for you.
I want to go to Dr.
Navarro, and Peter is going to be co-hosting with me tomorrow in studio.
Peter, I want folks to understand, I don't beat on Elon Musk.
To beat on Elon Musk.
But the conservative Inc.
fanboys always get it wrong.
They're rubbing up on the Murdochs.
They're rubbing up on Zelensky.
They're always rubbing up on the wrong person.
And they're rubbing up on Elon Musk.
He is a...
He is a partner and an asset of the Chinese Communist Party.
He just is. His financing comes from the Chinese Communist Party, from Tesla, from Shanghai.
That's the stock he's barred against.
Those are those loans he takes out.
Everything else is super negative cash flow, even Tesla, but he bars against that.
And they control him lock, stock and barrel.
That's why they had him over last week in the middle of the firestorm of all this.
They had him over to talk about the mega factory he's going to build, the battery factory that he's now got us in all these electrical vehicles, the lithium battery.
They're going to control all the production of it.
You're going to be this whole radical plan as we've walked through with Jeff Clark and Dave Walsh.
And we get Dave Walsh in here to go through this radical.
And I mean, it's radical. The radical plan of the Biden regime A lot of it's centered around the electric vehicle, most of it.
It ended the internal combustion engine.
And what they're doing is they're pulling it so far to now.
It's crazy. Navarro writes this amazing piece on this Tesla.
It's up on Getter, getting tons of traffic.
It's up on Truth, people talking about it, pushing it around.
And you put it up on Twitter.
peter navarro
What happened, brother? This is the third time the Twit sensors pulled this down because it's critical.
of Elon Musk's strategy.
This is unacceptable. We can't have the richest man in America dictating what people can say on social media.
I mean, everybody, like, where's the fanboys now, Darren Beattie?
It's like you put stuff up that points out the problem.
Here's the problem, Steve.
We've got two things going on.
We've got Elon Musk engaged in a predatory pricing scheme.
It's unprecedented. You look across the financial news, He's slashing prices, slashing prices, slashing prices on Tesla.
Hey, maybe that's good for consumers.
But what it's going to do is it's going to put GM and Ford out of business.
Tesla is going to be the monopoly.
And guess what? Over half of its production already, Steve, over half of Tesla's production is over in Shanghai at the Gigabyte factory.
It's the largest electric vehicle manufacturer in the world.
Musk promised not to do this, but he's getting ready to do it.
He's going to flood America with cheap slave labor made in China imports.
So in the stroke of one thing, he's going to destroy the American auto industry as we know it, run up our trade deficit.
And by the way, He is the single greatest danger to the candidacy of Donald Trump in 2024.
Why do I say that? It's because Musk has to kiss the butt of Xi Jinping and his Communist Chinese masters, Steve.
Why? Because with one stroke of the pen, Xi Jinping, and I write about this in the article, and take away his Tesla factories, just like Hitler took away Henry Ford's factories.
And used them to kill Americans and people across Europe.
So this is a serious, serious thing.
It's in the big details, peternavaro.substack.com, peternavaro.substack.com.
It went up yesterday hot as a firecracker in the Washington Times.
And yeah, I put it out on social media.
True Social puts it out.
Getter, of course, puts it out.
It gets pulled down within nanoseconds.
On Elon Musk Twitter, and this is a crucial issue, Steve.
I can't think of an economic issue.
steve bannon
It's one of the issues. We did the whole conference, and we're going to have more guys on today in the conference, the World War III, the early years, right?
And we talked about this.
Remember, let me go back. I don't want you to bury the lead, so I want to go back to the top.
He's slashing the prices to get bigger market share, and he's going to put Ford and GM out of business, and the auto industry is still the industrial heart.
But here's the reason, is that the Biden administration is radically shifting the emphasis to electric vehicles.
peter navarro
Yeah, it's all driven by American taxpayer subsidies.
That's what pisses me off, Steve.
We're sending out friggin' tax dollars to Communist China to kill us.
And Musk, this guy, look, let me just say this.
He's a self-admitted Asperger's guy, okay?
He's brilliant, right?
Asperger's folks don't have any empathy, right?
They have no sense of what-he has no sense of what he is doing To the American people, the deplorables, with the way he's going out.
And yeah, he sends space rockets up.
steve bannon
Great for him. He's not an American.
He's not an American. He's not an American.
There's another like the Murdochs.
There's another like Soros.
There's another like Musk.
These guys are not Americans.
They don't love America.
They don't respect the people that built America.
And now you've seen it in all its glory.
And he's working with the radicals in the Biden regime because, as Jeff Clark and these guys are talking about, they're going to put the internal combustion engine out of business and force the electric vehicle, which is also insane.
Because of what that damage that does in making the lithium battery to the environment, they're going to push it forward.
They're going to put the beating heart of industrial America, which is still the automotive industry.
Out of business, let a Chinese Communist Party asset in Elon Musk control it.
This is not complicated.
It's out there in the open. And when Peter Navarro writes a blistering piece in the Washington Times in his substack, and it's going viral on Getter, and it's going viral on True Social.
Oh, by the way, in the first two nanoseconds, it's down on Twitter.
Why is that? Because it exposes Elon Musk for the total phony that he is.
And he's dangerous. He's a dangerous guy.
And what he's doing is dangerous to this country.
Just look at the economics of it.
On the 100th anniversary of the CCP, we're condemning it.
We're having a thing with the new federal state.
They're the worst demons on earth.
They've killed hundreds of millions of Chinese allowed by Jing.
He's putting out things that are kissing the ass of the Chinese Communist Party.
You've been so great and so productive over 100 years.
Dude, they've killed a couple of hundred million Chinese.
And that doesn't include the abortions, the 450 million Aborted babies, 80 % are little baby girls.
They're the bloodiest regime in the history of mankind, full frickin' stop.
There's not even a competitor, okay?
The most brutal, the Great Famine, the Cultural Revolution, the Great Leap Forward, the massacre in Tiananmen Square.
Need I go on? Right?
And now he sits there, he's in business with, he doesn't exist without the Chinese Communist Party.
Yes, sir. Go ahead.
peter navarro
Ultimately, ultimately what's going to happen to Elon Musk Communist China is what happens to every other American company over there.
I mean, I was astonished to see how much of his production, how big a bet he's made over there.
What I do in the article is talk about the forced technology transfer policies and the industrial espionage in Communist China that invariably strips away the carcass.
Steve, what was the greatest American company We had for 50 years.
It was General Electric, right?
GE goes over there.
Jeff Immelt takes it over there as CEO, and he gets stripped clean.
GE is a pale shadow of itself.
So what Musk is doing, it's like treason.
He's going to kill GM and Ford, step one.
Communist Chinese are having him do it for them.
He's taking all the technology over there.
He's gonna get stripped. And when push comes to shove, when something happens on the Taiwan Strait, Chinese Communists are gonna own those facts.
unidentified
It's insane. Hang on.
steve bannon
He's not getting stripped.
The basics of these joint ventures is you have to put the intellectual property in the joint venture.
This is how they steal it in broad daylight.
It's a joint venture he's got.
That's why he's got the stock. By the way, the stock's off, I don't know, the stock's off a trillion dollars.
It's the greatest implosion of a stock in the history why he bought the crime scene.
peter navarro
And he bought the crime scene as a- By the way, the Chinese stock market has fallen off dramatically in the last several weeks.
Why? Because of geopolitical concerns.
Nobody around the world trusts the commies not to go across the Taiwan Strait and do something crazy which offends Yeah, it's like, so, look, Musk, I don't know what he's thinking.
Okay, he's the smartest guy in the world.
I do know that his predatory price game is putting Ford and GM in this country out of business.
steve bannon
Stop. Stop. He's an engineer.
He's smart engineering. I know this guy.
He would come with the beggar bowl every day to the White House.
I'd say, get out of here. We're not doing this.
He'd go next door to Jared, and they'd be rubbing up on him.
No, the answer is he's not a smart guy.
He's a brilliant engineer.
He's a brilliant engineer.
There's a lot of brilliant. And he may be the most brilliant engineer of his generation.
I don't care. He's sold out to the Chinese Communist Party, and he's a dainty.
He bought a crime scene at Twitter, and it's not free speech.
There's no anti-CCP warriors up there.
peter navarro
He's not going to let that happen. He hasn't released any of the algorithms, Steve, that he promised he would do.
That thing's still a black box.
I want to know. How Twitter suppressed the Hunter Biden laptop.
I want to know how their algorithms work.
I mean, everybody in Trump land has been suppressed by Twitter at one time or another, and we must promise to get to the bottom of it.
Hey, we're still waiting, Elon, and all you're doing is letting your twit sensors continue to do that on behalf of you making money.
Nobody, nobody, nobody should ever praise Elon Musk, because at the end of the day, he's the greatest danger to this country.
He's the greatest danger to getting Trump back in the White House.
In that article, PeterRavard at Substack.com.
Hit it. Hit it hard, because I want everybody to understand what this dangerous man is.
steve bannon
Okay. Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it. See you tomorrow.
You know, you have a better job stealing the mic in your own studio than you have here, but not too shabby.
People should learn from you.
I know the audience loves when I talk over the guests.
I do read your feedback.
They absolutely love it. Cortez, continue on, sir.
Let's get back to the U.S. economy now that we've deconstructed Elon Musk.
Tell me about we're falling and we're falling rapidly.
You can tell this by the trucks don't lie, sir.
steve cortes
Correct. And so the economy is bad and it's worsening.
And I say that not to depress the audience, but to motivate everybody out there, all the patriots, to make sure that the House GOP holds the line in debt ceiling negotiations.
So previously, we talked about J.B. Hunt, what it told us about The trucking industry and the massive slowdown in the movement of goods and services.
I then also provided the first chart showing the shipment of boxes, about as basic as it gets regarding the economy.
The shipment of the things that are used to ship things, okay?
The shipment of cardboard boxes which has plunged at a worse rate Then 08 and 09, another bad comparison to that 08, 09 period, UPS. UPS, the ubiquitous shipper out there all over the US economy at both the business wholesale level as well as the retail e-commerce level.
They had some very disappointing results from UPS yesterday.
If we pull up chart number two, I want to read from you from the Wall Street Journal reporting on UPS. UPS issues downbeat outlook for shipping volumes, and I highlighted this quote.
The first decline in annual revenue since 2009.
Let me repeat that. The first decline in annual revenue since 2009.
That is right now the outlook for the year from UPS. And that is the situation that we are in, the predicament we are in, the crisis, the economic crisis that we're in right now that is created.
It is a created crisis because of the policy mistakes of the Biden White House along with the establishment GOP, particularly in the Senate.
Now, as bad as things are, Steve, there is a way out.
And it starts today.
It starts this week with holding a line on the debt ceiling because, again, the situation on the ground.
Don't listen to corporate media. They do catch up with you eventually, but they're not going to tell you the truth real time.
Don't listen to corporate media. Certainly don't listen to the Biden White House.
Things are terrible, and they are worsening.
So there has to be an incredible sense of urgency out there among the people.
steve bannon
We've got other stuff to go through, but we'll get back on it tomorrow.
I know we've got a lot of stuff on Fauci, also what's happening in the state of Washington, all that.
Steve, how do people get to your Substack?
steve cortes
How do they get to your content? Yeah, please find me, stevecortez.substack.com.
On the Twitter, I'm at cortezstevecortez.com.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve. Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
Let's make sure Captain Bannon and Grace, we get up Navarro's also, and let's push that out hard.
I want everybody to read that article, look at the facts.
Okay, as we're going through this, you know, the White House officials saying, hey, you're cutting meals on wheels, cutting all this.
What they ain't cutting is the billions, tens of billions they're sending to Ukraine.
Ben Harnwell is going to tell us what they're doing with that money next.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back. Last night I dropped in on Rudy was doing a podcast.
His late show is up on Getter every night, I think from 8 to 9.
He was there with Kerry Lake.
I dropped in for the last half hour of it.
We're going to try to put that up on Getter today so everybody can get it.
We had a really great, it was a lot of fun.
And I think we talked about a lot of important and big issues, so we'll get to that.
I want to get back to the debt ceiling.
We're going to have Tiffany Justice on here in a moment and talking about Cuomo and about the family and the assault of your family.
Biden's announced his thing is let's finish the job.
And my question is, okay, you're going to finish what?
All we see is destruction of American sovereignty.
And all of that is this massive fight.
And for people out there saying, well, this is all phony.
Look, I do agree that part of what they're doing is talking about it's phony.
But we've got to get to the bottom of this and we've got to stop it.
Because if we continue to have this out-of-control spending, that has to be financed.
The only way it's financed is the printing of money, which is a rolling devaluation.
Our economy is going to implode and we're going to lose the dollar as the prime reserve currency.
Now, I've got promises of the dollar being a prime reserve currency, but even if you don't want it, which I still think we have to have it, but even if you don't want it, it has to be an organized process to get off that.
We're going to get in a second. We've been talking about this for a couple of years.
Foreign Policy Magazine.
Now it's its lead story. We're going to get to that in a second.
But as a subset of this fight that's going on, you heard we start the show with the Biden official coming out.
And I told you they were going to do this.
It's all these ogres in MAGA extremists because this is what Biden's running against, MAGA extremism.
MAGA extremism means being the adult in the room.
I told you we were going to be attacked.
And this is just the beginning.
I told you you were going to be attacked by being chairman of the creditors committee and being the adult in the room.
Now having to sit there and go, we can't have a $6.8 trillion budget.
Dude, when he got now maybe less than $5 trillion coming in on tax revenues because you're imploding economy.
The Trump tax cuts and the Trump economy got tons of cash coming.
But that's stopping.
So how's that gap being filled?
We're not going to be able to sell bonds to finance it.
You're not going to raise taxes on...
The reason they don't raise taxes on the wealthy is the wealthy are their donors.
They make it seem like the Republican Party is the party of the wealthy.
That's not true. All the analysis shows, and they're even talking about it, the Republican Party, because of MAGA, because of Trump, is a working-class, working-persons party.
Whether you're middle class or part of the working class, wherever you are, It's their donor.
And they ain't going to raise the taxes on their donors.
They're not going to raise the taxes on Larry Fink.
They're not going to raise the taxes on George Soros.
They ain't going to do that. Because they've got a methodology how to pay for this and concentrate their power.
They've got this bizarre relationship with the Federal Reserve, which we have to end.
And somebody's going to have to have the courage and the stones to sit there and say, Wall Street, we're not going to do this anymore.
The world, and we'll get to foreign policy's lead story, the BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa, and now others, Argentina and other countries that are joining them, right?
Other countries that are joining them, because they control the resources, the global south, and they're looking at this Federal Reserve, and it's a constant devaluation.
It's a devaluation on you.
You're getting a rolling devaluation all the time.
And the inflation, that's why you're falling behind every 25 months in a row.
You're getting crushed. And they're up there talking about more spending.
And not a small part of it is the defense budget.
When I say the defense budget, I'm a leader of the Superhawks, according to Josh Rogan, to take down the CCP. And I say we're at war with the CCP, and we have to take them down.
But I want victory without bloodshed.
We don't need to do this in the kinetic situation.
I got into a little bit with Rudy last night.
If we do that, we're playing into their hand.
We got to do it not like we did in World War II, right, where we waited and then got caught up in it and we had to go back and punch back after we were attacked.
We got to do it like Reagan in the Cold War.
To turn unrestricted warfare, their unrestricted warfare back on them, particularly the economics of it, the technology.
You cut them off from capital markets, from all access to our capital, and from technology, they collapse in six months.
Laos Beijing overthrows them.
We know that. But in the Ukraine, and now we got this, now we got the labs in Sudan.
And Victoria, no one else told us you got the labs in Ukraine.
And now Ben Harnwell has been able to pull from and done an incredible job.
Ben joins us live from Rome.
Amazing job of digging through all the European media.
The European media, if you look, they're actually saying in Kiev on the Dnieper River that goes through it, it's oysters and champagne.
It's like McClellan in the early years of the Civil War.
It's just a big party. And it's paid for by you.
They're ripping you off to your face.
And today you got Zelensky calling Xi and saying what a great constructive call I had.
The vassal state of the Biden regime is rubbing up on our mortal enemy.
Tell me about the good high living.
They're living the high life.
They're living their best life in Kiev right now.
I don't see CNN there.
I don't see MSNBC there with this is a besieged capital.
What's going on? Ben Harnwell.
It's oysters and champagne.
And what is it? They're doing face mask lifts.
The women are getting these gold Cleopatra gold face mask.
Tell me what's going on, brother.
ben harnwell
Steve, you're absolutely right.
This was a story that we picked out, and I'm glad we've had a second opportunity to bring it back because the outrage on this, on Guetta, was absolutely unprecedented, just the disgust and the shock and the outrage.
So this story was something that I only saw, as you know, I spend 20 hours a day, literally checking through the European and international press.
One article on this was in the Times of London.
And that was it.
That was enough for us.
Strangely, The Times has been really at the forefront of cheerleading for President Zelensky.
I'm not quite sure how this one passed by the census, but this is the story.
There's an article in there saying that there have been more bars now in Kyiv, more bars opened.
than before the war.
They have a booming local entertainment economy.
They have bars with oysters and cocktails.
You can't walk down by the side of the Dnieper rock without tripping over a new opened bar.
But the thing here that really caught the attention of my cynical beady eyes This graphic here you can see wasn't to do with the story.
I found that just to illustrate, because I had no idea what a Golgi facial is.
So I picked that off the internet.
That's not something that has been pushed around in Kyiv.
But for folks like me who want to know how they're living high on the hog in Kyiv, that's exactly what it looks like.
And it is exactly what it says.
The story, the description that threw itself out in front of my BDIs.
The key of opera is open and luxury spas offer gold leaf facials and teeth whitening.
And there's a quote here saying from one sales assistant says, it's no different here.
It's just the same as it was before.
Now, Steve, I think we've been a little bit hasty in our cynicism here.
You know, there's a secondary argument, an opposing argument, because we need to give both sides of the facts.
These oligarchs, And their mistresses, and their wives, and their escorts.
These are hard-working oligarchs, Zelensky's oligarchs.
There's an argument that needs to be had that they deserve a gold leaf facial.
I mean, I know I do.
I guess you do as well.
The whole war room posse should be free to have them.
Sadly, however, there are many available for them.
It's directed exclusively towards Kyiv.
And another story, I think you pushed this out on your getter, but I find it very much allied to this one.
A couple of weeks ago, there was an absolute shock that Andrei Kishishny, who's the governor of the central bank in Kyiv, was showing off his 400,000 $1,000 Rolls-Royce ghost.
And you've got to say to yourself, you know, how does this guy, you know, he has a Rolls-Royce and a nice Rolls-Royce too, but he deserves it.
The guy must work hard.
He has a lot of cash.
That's coming in. And it's not as if the Americans, it's not as if the Biden administration is keeping tabs on all this money.
Someone has to do it.
So perhaps the guy that has to do it, you know, he merits a Rolls-Royce ghost because he works hard.
And you have to work hard to keep the receipts.
So this is the story in Kyiv.
steve bannon
Hang on one second. I want to drill down on this.
And here's the reason.
There's a story up on my getter in Politico where the Pentagon, the Grand Poobahs over the Pentagon, civilian and military light, are mocking and laughing at At Tucker Carlson being fired by Fox.
And they're saying, hey, it's not fair that he's on every day, you know, putting, you know, what they said, bagging us in front of the American people.
They're laughing. They think they're high fiving.
They think it's great because Tucker Carlson went after the incompetence, the corruption and the malfeasance.
Of our military and our military leaders, civilian leaders in the Pentagon.
It's a rat's nest over there.
And they're one of the groups who have been pushing this money into Ukraine and fighting Marjorie Taylor Greene on an audit.
Now, her resolution, they got a resolution passed about an audit.
But it's just a resolution. I don't know if he has teeth in it or not, but they're going to avoid it a thousand percent.
You know why? Because the Rolls Royce and the gold flake facials and the champagne and oysters are all being paid for by you.
Just remember, anytime you see that crap in Kiev, that is one of the Europeans ain't paying for it.
You're paying for it. And what I want to see, that now the Politico is reporting, you know, Biden and his national security guys, they're with knitted brow, and they're down in the Kennedy room in the National Security Council below the West Wing, and they're sitting there, and they're looking at maps, and they're quite concerned, the spring offensive.
They're quite concerned that the quote-unquote spring offensive we've been waiting for may not turn out like they anticipated, and they're already thinking about the excuses they're going to make up.
Remember, the dead ceiling today, this fight, if they don't have a line on them that says, zero money for Ukraine, you're being played.
Okay, short commercial break.
We've got Ben Harnwell, Tiffany Justice is going to join us.
Back in the war room.
unidentified
Just a moment. We rejoice when there's no more.
chris cuomo
Let's take down the CCP!...to decide which ideas are okay for a school library.
tiffany justice
Well, first I'd like to say that no one is looking to ban books.
The Moms for Liberty certainly isn't.
You should write the book.
You should print the book. You should publish the book.
You should sell the book. The book should go into the public library in your community if taxpayers want to pay for it.
And so we're not advocating for banning anything.
What we're talking about is curating content in a library.
You wouldn't have the same books in a medical college that you would in a seminary.
And just because a book is printed doesn't mean that it belongs in a children's library.
chris cuomo
Now, when you say children, what do you mean?
tiffany justice
I mean public school children K through 12.
Children do not have unfettered access to the Internet at school or movies or music, but somehow these books with these horribly explicit graphic content are finding their way onto bookshelves in public schools all over America.
chris cuomo
Let me ask you something.
Tina, would the book bother you as much if it were a male and a female doing animations that are instructional for kids to understand that type of sex relation?
tina descovich
So the problem with the books that our chapters across the country have concerns with, Chris, is that they are obscene.
They are obscene and they are pornographic.
This has nothing to do with if it's male and male, female and female, or male and female.
They are obscene and they are pornographic.
Genderqueer is just one of the many books.
Here's My Body is Growing, a guide for children four to eight.
I could read to you out of this book.
It is disgusting.
It is with a man and a woman, 20 years old.
It's not appropriate.
This is for ages four to eight.
tiffany justice
Kindergarten through third grade.
tina descovich
And it says that Sabrina's vagina becomes moist and warm and Marco's penis gets very stiff.
Marco then pushes his penis into Sabrina's vagina, always in and out.
That feels great for both of them.
It tells you before this that they are unmarried and living together and 20 years old.
This is appropriate for four to eight year olds.
This is found in grade schools all across the country.
So in your opening statement, Chris, you talked about Governor DeSantis and you listed books that Governor DeSantis has said he has concerns with and that what you stated was false.
We've watched Governor DeSantis, we've watched his press conferences on this.
Nobody in our organization or does Governor DeSantis have any problem with To Kill a Mockingbird or the other books that you mentioned.
The books that are concerning to us and that are actually violating the law here in the state of Florida are pornographic and obscene by anybody's standards.
chris cuomo
First of all, I didn't say your group.
Second of all, I didn't even say Governor DeSantis.
I'm saying some of the books and the groups that have come under the umbrella of what he's been talking about do want to ban those books.
That's not made up.
You should stick to your lane in terms of what your group does.
That's why I have you here, because I don't think you're the same as a lot of these other organizations.
If I thought you wanted to ban those, I don't think you have a very good argument.
What I'm saying is...
There's a difference between K through 3 and up to 12.
And then there's a secondary concern, which is where does it stop?
Which ideas do you guys stop at and get comfortable with?
That this bothers you because it's openly pornographic and kids can get it.
Okay. But where do you draw the line?
And who gets to draw it?
tiffany justice
Sure. So I think what's happening right now as far as this conversation about book banning, you saw President Biden speaking about it in his re-election campaign video.
It's become extremely politicized.
I think there are a lot of people that very much want to try to marginalize moms and dads and villainize us for being concerned about Extremely explicit content being given to children in schools.
It's important that we talk about, you're right, the truth here about the books that are concerning.
Moms and dads are getting up at school board meetings and having their mics cut.
We can't show these pictures on YouTube, on Facebook, on Twitter.
They get censored. And we couldn't show them on CBS Sunday Morning News.
So you ask us, where does the line start or stop?
As I said it on the CBS News broadcast, let's set the bar really, really low.
Let's just say no pornographic material, no rape, no incest, no pornography.
In this book, this gentleman talks about being raped, anally raped by a family member who was an adult.
Why was this in an elementary school, in a middle school or a high school for that matter, Chris?
chris cuomo
So the question then becomes, What does this lead to?
Now, I get it. You're picking things right now that I think are going to be within the range of reasonable for some people.
Some people will say, no, you don't censor any ideas.
You let it all be out there.
I'll decide for my kid what book they get from the library.
I don't want you to do it. Okay.
I accept that argument, but there are going to be standards.
You're going to have boards of adults that decide these kinds of things.
But, but... Here's my last point for you guys.
Does it lead, Tiffany and Tina, to just a desire to overhaul culture within the schools?
That you want moral standards put in that are far more conservative than is what they're right now and that this is basically a political agenda of wanting to shape these schools to the ethic that you believe is right as opposed to what's there now?
tina descovich
So, Chris, the thing that's beautiful about the system of government in the United States of America, and especially how our public school system is set up, is that it's meant to have input from the community, from the citizens, and from parents.
Parents should be coming to the table, all parents, whether you think this should be in schools or not.
You should be coming to the table, you should be going to your school board meetings, you should be sharing your concerns and your opinion.
steve bannon
Okay, that was last night on News Nation.
The great Tina and Tiffany show went, and it kind of had a mic drop by Chris Cuomo.
He couldn't answer. Tiffany, what we couldn't play, and we're going to track it down, my crack team will get it, maybe not this morning, but maybe in the afternoon show.
Cuomo starts off with, I don't know, a three- or five-minute rant where he's just going off.
Right, with no facts and he's just throwing bomb after bomb.
Tell our audience, kind of give a praise of what he said even before he got to you guys because once he got to you guys, I love the fact that you read from the book.
I didn't quite, you know, it's a family hour here at Real America's Voice at the War Room so we want to make sure people weren't shocked but that's what's in libraries and your kids get access to.
That's how shocking it is. What was the lead up to Cuomo when he just had the mic by himself?
tiffany justice
Well, I first want to say that I appreciate him having us on.
His producer reached out to me and said, we don't think that the CBS interview was fair.
You know, you made a point on Twitter.
You can't show the pictures.
So let's talk about that. And I said, okay, great.
What a great opportunity.
Can we bring the books?
And they said, let's check.
And I said, okay, check.
And so they went through a process where they said, we can show some of it, but we're going to have to blur it.
And I said, great, because that was our point once again.
But yeah, he opened and talked about DeSantis.
He said, you know, Catcher in the Rye, To Kill a Mockingbird.
These are books that I love, that I've read.
And, you know, Ron DeSantis, I think the words he used were Ron DeSantis.
It's fanboyed or something over groups that want to have books removed from schools or, as Chris said, banned, even though I repeatedly, even with producers, said we don't ban books.
So that was kind of the lead up to it.
I was proud of Tina for standing up for Governor DeSantis.
You know, he's a big boy. He can stand up for himself.
But in that type of an interview, we try to really push back against any false narrative.
steve bannon
So tell us, what's the bid and the ask on this?
Because even Chris Cuomo had to back off there.
He goes, yeah, yeah, this seems reasonable, but some people are going to want access to every idea.
Where do we actually stand right now?
Because what the audience wants to know is what they can do.
Where do we actually stand on this situation?
And you made the point, hey...
If you want to have a publisher or an imprint, you know, you give the content as an author.
If they print it and they sell it in bookstores or wherever in appropriate sections, that's fine.
That's America. If the public library makes a decision to put it in the public libraries, that's a public library decision.
You're talking about something totally different.
You're talking about schools and you're talking about schools that are underwritten by this audience, by taxpayers.
And the parents and the taxpayers ought to have some say so in that.
So walk me through where we actually stand because As radical as the teacher and the teachers unions are in pushing this, people are missing the point here.
The librarians, which used to be the nice little old lady in the old days, getting you Red Badger Courage, or the sonnets of Shakespeare, are now some spiked hair, purple hair, complete radical.
The librarians are a big problem here.
tiffany justice
Where do we stand? Yeah, so, you know, lots of people dye their hair, so I'm not going to hold anyone to a specific party or belief system because of that.
But where do we stand?
The head of the American Library Association is a self-proclaimed Marxist.
Says it right there. She's a keynote speaker at the Socialist Convention of 2023.
Libraries, in the CBS Sunday Morning There was a teacher that was teaching in Oklahoma who covered every bookcase in her classroom and said, all these books are books the state does not want you to read.
And then they cut to a shot of this teacher sitting there and her t-shirt said, educating is activism.
No, it's not.
So we're stuck in this place where the American public, moms and dads and grandparents and community members, taxpayers, haven't changed their expectations for public education.
People still want kids to learn to read and write and do math.
I think if you did national polling on this and we're working on that, you know, what is it that the American public really expects out of our public education system?
But the goal of the public education system has completely changed.
And the teachers unions have been controlling public education for years and years and years.
And so the teachers unions and the public education system have become really tools for the Democrat Party to indoctrinate children into a lot of different belief systems.
And I believe really demoralized kids to get them to a place where they believe that capitalism is bad.
I think the Colorado Education Association just voted recently To fight against capitalism, in fact.
So, you know, they're saying the quiet part out loud.
No one's hiding anything now.
But yet, when we get into these conversations with PEN America, for example, when I spoke in front of the subcommittee, the Judiciary Subcommittee, they're disingenuous.
We're not really talking about the same thing because the goal of the schools is different.
Where are we? We are in a place where the book that Tina read and the books that I was showing are in public schools all over America.
And we as moms and dads are going to these school boards and we are making them aware that these books are there.
And sometimes the school board listens.
And they take the book out and sometimes they review it and they put it right back on the shelf.
Genderqueer, which I was trying to show, they actually cut this from the clip, but I was showing some pictures from Genderqueer.
That book has been put back into libraries all across America.
So we are truly in the fight for the innocence of our children.
And, you know, as President Biden just said when he was speaking recently, he said, you know, they're not your children.
They're all our children.
And what we say at Moms for Liberty is we do not co-parent with the government.
These are our children and the government needs to know their place.
steve bannon
I want to go to the tale of two governors.
You've got Pritzker in Illinois and you've got Governor DeSantis.
I want you to compare and contrast because on all the initial fight on this, when the FBI and DOJ saying your domestic terrorists had all these explosions at the school boards, then you guys started winning a bunch of seats.
Then you gained the blowback by the unions and backed by some big money like the Pritzkers.
Recently, the article has been saying, hey, the Moms for Liberty, Moms for America type The parent rights thing has kind of peaked and we've beaten it back in Wisconsin and Illinois and I think in Michigan in elections.
Get us up to speed on what happened there and Pritzker's involvement and then after the break I want you to talk about DeSantis.
tiffany justice
Yeah, I was reading that political article and one of the Democratic strategists said they put $300,000 into school board races and library committee races.
Republicans are not doing that.
They're just not. They're not putting money into local politics, into the ground game.
I've done a lot of research, talked to a lot of people about how you defeat communism, and it has to come from the ground up.
So we have to start winning local elections and getting people involved in our government process and civics.
We need to get people more engaged in America, and their voting will follow that.
Pritzker is, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, a madman.
Completely negating all parental rights.
Locked down Illinois, obviously, during COVID. But the left is very smart about the way they do this work.
And so Republicans are going to have to step up.
We started a PAC. I've told you that.
We're having difficulty funding, and I'm not going to lie, because I just don't think that people understand how important it is for us to disrupt the education system in America.
Lenin said that only by radically remolding the teaching organization and training of the youth shall we be able to ensure that the efforts of the younger generation will result in the creation of a society that will be unlike the old society, i.e., in the creation of a communist society.
This has been done before, it is happening now, and we have to stop it.
steve bannon
Okay, Tiffany, hang on.
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They have now requested a U.S. government bailout, a rescue, as the stock continues to crash.
First Republic is reporting and looking to sell $50 billion to $100 billion of their assets.
In this case, that would be loans, a loans package, but is struggling to find a buyer.
Another massive bank on Biden's Let's Finish the Job.
His finishing the job is to destroy the regional banking infrastructure in this country.
And by doing that, he is going to wipe out The small shop owner, the small business owner, and the entrepreneurial class.
It's coming to a town and city and village near you.
And this is all because of the created crisis of the illegitimate Biden regime.
Tiffany Justice, another one.
I want to give Governor DeSantis his due because I am a big fan of his as governor.
I'm pretty open. I just don't think he's ready to step up.
First, he's got a ton of unfinished work.
Number two, I just don't think he's ready to step up.
But what he's done, if you compare Pritzker, and Pritzker is one of these billionaire kids.
The money comes to him from the family.
He's out of control.
He's a total radical. And they're putting money in like crazy.
So we're going to have to fight this. Just like the precinct strategy on the Republican Party political side, You got to take over your town council, but you got to get on these school boards and library committees.
You got to fight it because they're going to try.
It's the old communist thing. They're going to vote late in the evening.
They want to wear you out and just make it too hard to keep up.
Tiffany Justice, tell me about DeSantis and the Florida model.
tiffany justice
I have to give Governor DeSantis a ton of credit.
I've told you before, our moms were out on the streets with signs during COVID saying, please help us to protect our parental rights, and that's exactly what he did.
He signed a parent's bill of rights into law, so fundamental parental rights are recognized in our state, and then he worked with us to endorse school board members.
And he knows the importance of local elections.
He got to see that very directly during COVID when we had the Parents' Bill of Rights, and yet we had school boards that were saying, we're not going to follow the laws of our state.
We're going to follow CDC recommendations instead, and we're going to take money directly from the Biden administration because we don't care about federalism.
We care about doing the bidding of the Biden administration.
So I give Ron DeSantis a ton of credit.
He has stood up for He has listened as citizens have, you know, had their voice heard.
And Steve, you know, he's been traveling across the country asking to meet with our moms everywhere.
I know you've seen some of the pictures and he'll sit down and have a slice of pizza and talk to moms about what was it like to have Governor Pritzer as your governor?
What are your concerns as parents?
And I really think that's the type of leadership that we need all over this country.
A lot of governors could learn from the example of Ron DeSantis.
steve bannon
No, we've got to get on, and these Republicans in the MAGA states, we've got to get on this.
And I know in Montana right now they're having a tough time.
In Tennessee, it's now, there's a color revolution.
They're going to try to take the MAGA states, and they're coming at you guys particularly hard.
Tiffany, how do people find out?
I want to immerse people in information, because the parental rights is a central issue, not just of the 2024 election.
It's going to be rolling all the way in these school board elections, and we don't have a choice.
We have to win these. You've got to, we can't I talked last night on the getter with Kerry and with the mayor, Rudy.
I said, look, the voucher is saying I went to a Catholic school.
My parents sacrificed to send me.
I love the idea what Arizona has done, that the money follows the kid.
I love the charter school.
I love all that. But at the end of the day, you're going to have a big bulk, particularly the minority communities, going to be left behind in these public schools.
And we can't leave these kids to these wolves.
In the teachers' unions, in particular the library associates, we just can't leave them behind.
Because they'll turn into a radical cadre of atheistic Marxism.
tiffany justice
Tiffany Justice. It's already happening.
And the bottom line is this.
Money is being kind of laundered through the public education system.
You've got taxpayer money going in, going back out to the unions.
Ninety-nine percent of their contributions go to Democrats.
And the activist organizations that get grants to do work in the schools or help to fund this movement is coming through our school system.
I want to be clear.
You know, I talked about donations before.
Yes, we need donations.
I am not going to lie. We have a 501, we have the PAC, and I'm trying to get to funders to make them realize how incredibly important parental rights are.
If the state thinks that they know better than you for your child, or they're going to make decisions for your child on your behalf, we've got a real problem.
That is not the America that we know, and there is no future in that.
Everyone has a role to play.
You can write a check. You can write a letter to the editor.
You can help support us. Get on social media.
Fight back some of these horrible comments.
Everyone can get involved.
Go to momsforliberty.org.
Big map there. Click on your state.
You can see if there's a chapter.
If we don't have one, start one.
And if you're sitting there thinking, you know, maybe this isn't for me or I don't know about starting a chapter.
You know what? I didn't know either.
In 2016, I ran for school board.
Who knew that I'd be sitting here talking to you right now?
But everybody has got to get involved.
steve bannon
No, this is one of the central fights of our time.
Remember, parents are not going to co-parent with the state.
When Joe Biden says they're all our children, no, they're the parents' children, okay?
And this is Biden. This is exactly what the Cultural Revolution was about in China.
This is exactly what the Bolsheviks did.
This is what Hitler wanted to take them at like two years old, the French Revolution.
This is the way revolution, they try to destroy the nuclear family and to make sure the parents are not in the decision-making process.
Tiffany, how did they get to you on social media?
tiffany justice
Where do people go? You follow me on Twitter.
We're on Getter. We're on Rumble.
My podcast just got censored on YouTube, unfortunately, this week because I interviewed Dr.
Peter McCullough, and he dared to say that pregnant moms maybe shouldn't be vaccinated.
Apparently, we're not allowed to say that right now.
Ridiculous. But, you know, people can follow us on all different social media.
And Steve, once again, we always appreciate you having us on to be able to talk about these important issues.
Really appreciate your audience.
steve bannon
You guys are the tip of the spear. Cuomo was absolutely shocked last night.
It was worthwhile just playing that clip.
See Cuomo speechless as Tina read.
Oh my God, it was unbelievable.
unidentified
Tiffany tells Tina she's a rock star.
steve bannon
We love both you guys.
Thanks. Thanks, Steve.
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