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April 26, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 280: The Tennessee House Fight Continues; The Ray Epp's Story
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
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Everyone is going to say, how do we address this crisis at hand?
Our people have to live the act.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It is Tuesday, 25 April in the year of our Lord, 2023, the second hour of our late afternoon, early evening show.
In the previous hour, we went through the capital markets and geopolitics.
We had Ed Dowd, Steve Cortez, and of course, we had the great Dr.
Thayer talking about the CCP. I mean, there's so much news and so many major important stories we've got to get to every day.
This afternoon, in this hour, we're going to talk about Tennessee, Arizona.
There's a bunch of stuff I didn't get to Cary Lake and to Caroline Renabat about the Cary Lake situation.
I've got Christina Bob coming on about that.
I've got two of my favorite news dogs that are going to join me at the top, Michael Patrick Leahy and of course the great Jim Hoft.
I want to start with Leahy.
There's an incredible article written by pseudonym Peachy Keen.
I understand she's a, I think a mom, a suburban housewife.
She's got a book coming out in June.
We're going to try to get her on.
She's written an incredible piece that everybody should focus on about color revolutions happening in MAGA states.
And I can tell you, brother, I want to play that because that could have been the Montana, you know, I think house yesterday, the exact same thing, this one on transgender rights.
So Leahy, you sent me this interview that the governor, a Republican governor just did on radio.
In Middle Tennessee, I think, this afternoon.
You've got to help me out here. What started as a massacre of innocent Christian children and teachers by a trans-terrorist that wrote a manifesto.
And by the way, the tragedy of the trans-terrorist, they got the pictures of the little girl when she's younger, and she looks adorable.
She's got the pearls on. She's got the hair.
The mom's obviously got her, you know, she takes care of the child.
She looks adorable. When she's younger, she looks like a demon later.
Now we're in a situation.
We've had a complete collapse.
And I've been the number one guy bragging about the Tennessee House.
I mean, you guys in the Senate, you guys are the guys that stood up to lead about the redistricting.
You know, I keep saying that of all the MAGA states, the Tennessee legislature is the best.
It seems like it collapsed under the glare of the mainstream media in a color revolution on that chaos.
And now I don't have a manifesto, and I see leaks about the manifesto that the young woman wrote that said it's so explosive that the FBI won't put it out.
And now I've got the governor that's trying to put red flag laws in, and they're saying they're going to trade off red flags for the manifesto.
Man, Tennessee is everything to us.
The volunteer state, what in the hell is going on there, Leahy?
michael patrick leahy
Well, I would be of good cheer, Steve, although it's a tough battle here.
The left for decades has tried to break Tennessee, and that's what you're seeing full-blown here now over the past month or so.
As you recall, on March 27th, 28-year-old Audrey Elizabeth Hale, a woman who identified as a transgender male, walked into a Christian school here in Nashville and murdered six Three nine-year-old children and three staffers.
And then subsequently to that, you saw the riot incited by three Democratic lawmakers in the Tennessee Capitol.
Their expulsion, they were put back in.
They should not have been put back in because the Tennessee Constitution says you cannot replace yourself.
If you've been expelled, but they were.
And now the Tennessee General Assembly actually had a very- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Don't bury the lead. Don't bury the lead.
They then went to the- Not that they've been lionized by the New York Times and the MSNBC and that crowd, but they've been- They're in the White House.
I mean, they're- They were in the White House yesterday.
They're being fed at the highest level and held up as an example for every other state to follow, brother.
michael patrick leahy
But keep going. They are being held up as an example.
But here in Tennessee, we understand how to identify what is BS, right?
And that's what's going on there.
It's coming from the Biden White House.
It's coming from all the well-funded left-wing out-of-state operatives.
And the Tennessee General Assembly actually had a pretty significant set of accomplishments here this year.
They actually led the country in passing the law that prohibited genital mutilation of children under the age of 18.
They adjourned on Friday, and our governor, Bill Lee, kind of gave him the middle finger because two hours later he called for this special session to basically adopt his red flag laws, which are violations of the Second Amendment.
So, fast forward.
Very important.
You mentioned the manifesto of the killer.
Now, she was killed that day by very brave and courageous police officers here in Nashville on March 27th.
A series of documents that she'd written, we've called them generically manifesto, but they're a bunch of journals.
Were recovered by the Metro Nashville Police Department.
And those journals are both operational plans and just sort of been described by some as, you know, just thought journals, shall we say.
Now, those documents are in the possession of Metro Nashville Police Department and of the FBI. The copies are with the FBI. And we, today, on Monday, we asked Metro National Police Department to release them in the public interest.
They denied our request on the grounds that it's still, wait for this, Steve, an open investigation, which is hard to follow since the shooter died four weeks ago.
The FBI also, we've filed a FOIA request with them.
They've denied our request on the ground that the documents have been put in an exempt folder.
Now, that's just the beginning of this, Steve, and we intend to take appropriate actions in the next couple days.
You'll see what that is shortly.
I will note that several members of the Tennessee General Assembly have said, Jeremy Faison in the House and Todd Gardenhire in the Senate have said, look, there's no way we can conduct a special session to understand What the consequences or what things we should do to stop another Covenant Presbyterian school attack if we don't have a copy of the manifesto.
So that's out there.
I've called on the governor to ask Metro Nashville Police Department to release it.
He actually seems to be more interested in being a pawn of the left.
The special session, I can guarantee you, will be a lightning rod for Black Lives Matter, transgender activists, out-of-state groups.
steve bannon
This is the power I want.
If Memphis can help us and Grace and Captain Bannon, I need everybody to read this piece.
And I understand Leahy, who both is a Harvard and Stanford graduate, one of the smartest guys I've ever met, disagrees with part of this.
But I need everybody to read this because her construct is very powerful.
She says like they had a color revolution in Ukraine to overthrow the Russian and Russian-supporting democratically elected government, that there are color revolutions going on in this country.
And Tennessee's the perfect example.
You have incredibly decent people in that General Assembly.
You have a governor who's Republican.
He's kind of a rhino, but he's a decent guy.
And you've accomplished a lot.
In fact, you've probably accomplished more than any other assembly.
It also doesn't matter.
Because they're playing a different game.
They're playing a revolutionary game.
And brother, they're winning right now.
The great Tennessee legislature, which we've gone out of the way to say that is the one to focus on with Ohio and Georgia and Florida and Texas and Arizona, also in the United States, the guys that are getting it done more than anybody's Tennessee, they got rolled.
They just got rolled and they kind of collapsed and said, let's get out of town because we're playing a different game.
They're playing Constitutional Republic, rule of law, let's pass laws and let's get those laws implemented.
You're playing against revolutionaries.
You're playing against Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Soros.
They ain't playing that game.
They're playing smash-mouth politics.
And that's my fear.
And they're going to use Tennessee as elaborate?
Okay. It is not a random event of what's happening in Montana.
Montana may be the most MAGA state of all.
I think Trump wins there by the biggest spreads.
We had the biggest spreads, I think, in the House and this transgender ideology.
I could have switched out the video of Montana yesterday and it looks exactly like Tennessee.
That's not a random occurrence.
This is an organized effort to go after the most MAGA states and intimidate heretofore stand up and good men and women who are legislators who are not prepared to take this.
This is what they did in the French Revolution.
This is what they do in all revolutions.
It is intimidation.
It's fear. It's a tactic.
It's not inside. And baby, we're in it now.
Because they're going to try to go and try to have color revolutions in these red states.
And they're feeling if they can break the legislature in Tennessee, they can break any legislature in this country, Michael Patrick Leakey.
michael patrick leahy
Yeah, I think you're exactly right.
That is their plan. And I do think that the Speaker of the House here, who's a friend of mine, Cam Sexton, got totally rolled on this.
I think he may realize that error right now.
But there are others in the Tennessee leadership now who totally understand what's going on in terms of the Tennessee General Assembly.
And they are digging in to fight back.
And they're not going to get pushed around by anybody from out of state, any Black Lives Matter activists.
They're not going to do it.
This is Tennessee. We are the volunteer state.
And we're going to volunteer to keep the Constitutional Republic rolling and the state of Tennessee going.
steve bannon
I'm really quite fearful about the Hollywood element in Nashville.
Country music used to be the backbone of the conservative movement.
But man, it is so Hollywood right now.
But I'll leave that. You've got to remember this.
michael patrick leahy
Go ahead, sir. You got to remember this.
There are 95 counties in Tennessee.
Ninety-three of them are red.
Davidson County is a blue county.
There's no question about it. And Memphis is.
The state capitol's there.
And so you're getting a distorted view of how the people of Tennessee feel because you've got a bunch of young, well-funded activists doing all this.
unidentified
Out of state. Out of state, absolutely.
steve bannon
I don't question, by the way, I don't question the, hey, the MAGA element in Tennessee, that's Andrew Jackson.
Remember, Andrew, General Jackson is my guy.
When I took President Trump and we set up for him to go to the Hermitage for the, what, the 200th anniversary, I think, the birthday.
It was one of the most moving moments of Trump's presidency.
Normally he goes to museums and pays respects and goes.
I think we spent an extra hour, hour and a half in a very busy schedule to give a speech.
He was so moved by.
He said, look, there's not a state out there, and I say this as a Virginian, that I think more highly of than Tennessee and the folks in Tennessee.
I'm just saying they've picked you for a reason.
michael patrick leahy
You're absolutely right.
steve bannon
They are so MAGA, but they know they got a Hollywood element in Nashville, and this is all a media thing.
The whole thing was played out in media.
It was MSNBC, New York Times, and next thing you know, they're in the White House being lionized as modern-day freedom writers.
michael patrick leahy
But you know, Steve, two years ago, President Biden tried to demonize parents here in Williamson County who didn't want critical race theory taught.
That didn't go over very well.
And the people in New York City who are, you know, all the mainstream media, they can write everything they want about us here in Tennessee.
But they don't vote here in Tennessee, and we vote here in Tennessee.
And I think that this has been a wake-up call for conservative sawwords here in Tennessee.
And I'm going to tell you, I think that the fight to fight back against this revolution has already begun.
In fact, frankly, I think if you stay tuned to what we do at the Tennessee Star in the next couple of days, you'll see the beginning of that fight back.
steve bannon
Okay, fine. We go to all the Star News Network at the beginning of our day like we do Gateway Pundit and Citizens Free Press.
It's the show prop for the war.
One last thing. Make me feel better about this manifesto because I think the FBI... Look, if the manifesto...
Look bad for the Christians.
Look bad for everybody. That manifesto would have been out that afternoon.
The fact that it's in a sealed file.
Sorry, Leahy. It's in another file.
We can't give it to you. Doesn't make me feel good.
We're going to see the manifesto anytime soon.
michael patrick leahy
Feelings are one thing, Steve, but powerful legal capabilities are entirely another.
steve bannon
I'll leave it at that. Michael Patrick Leahy, how do people get to the Star News Network, particularly the Tennessee Star, brother?
michael patrick leahy
TennesseeStar.com, TennesseeStar.com.
steve bannon
There's an interview up right now that Michael Patrick Leahy took the transcript from a local radio station.
Guy, by the way, gave a really good interview of the governor who was bobbing and weaving from the beginning.
But people, particularly folks throughout the country, this is just not Tennessee, but this is about these red flag laws.
Everybody should read this interview.
We're going to put it up on the board and get Grace and Mo to push it out.
unidentified
So, Michael, thank you for doing that for us.
michael patrick leahy
Stephen K. Bannon, it's always a pleasure.
Thank you so much. Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
Okay, I've got my other favorite newsman.
I've got one half of the brothers, Hoff, Jim Hoff.
What I want to do is play a cold open.
The Hoffs have been all over this Ray Epps situation from a different angle of attack of Tucker Carlson.
And Darren Beattie, let's go ahead and play the cold open for the gateway pundit in the house.
unidentified
What do you think when you see this now?
It brings back some bad memories.
It's hard to see our Capitol under attack.
It's been more than two years since the storming of the Capitol, but Ray and his wife Robin told us they relive January 6th every day of their lives.
Some people have said, well, just let it go and let it die down.
It doesn't. What they don't understand is it doesn't.
tucker carlson
What exactly was the role of Ray Epps in the chaos of January 6th?
unidentified
The theory, Epps, a former member of the Oath Keepers, was an FBI informant who incited the crowd on January 6th, bubbled up from a right-wing news site called Revolver News, run by a former Trump speechwriter.
jim hoft
He's the smoking gun of the entire Fed's erection.
unidentified
and landed on Fox News primetime.
According to a new investigation from Revolver, Epps may have led the breach team that first entered the Capitol on January 6th.
The convoluted conspiracy theory made its way to Capitol Hill.
It's not the Proud Boys who engage in the initial breach.
It's Ray Epps at that precise moment.
steve bannon
How did Ray Epps know that there were going to be pipe bombs?
ted cruz
Ms. Sadburn, who is Ray Epps?
unidentified
That question has animated Fox News host Tucker Carlson for nearly two years.
tucker carlson
Ray Epps? He's on video several times encouraging crimes, riots, breaches of the Capitol.
unidentified
Carlson has focused on Epps more than 20 times on his top-rated show, a half-dozen times so far this year.
He's obsessed with me.
He's going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives.
Why? to shift blame on somebody else.
If you look at it, Fox News, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Gates, they're all telling us before this thing that it was stolen.
So you tell me, who has more impact on people, them or me?
Epps, once a loyal Fox News watcher, told us he doesn't understand how he got cast as the villain.
The Epps version is more mundane.
They believed the 2020 election had been stolen from Donald Trump and considered January 6th a legitimate protest.
We need to go into the Capitol!
Into the Capitol!
What?! No!
No! Peacefully!
Fed! Fed! Fed!
Fed! Fed! I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.
Well, let's not say it. We need, we need to go, I'll say it.
All right. We need to go in.
Face Fed posting?
All right. We need to go into the Capitol.
I didn't see that coming.
Okay. Our president is here speaking.
We are going to the Capitol where our problems are.
It's that direction.
Please spread the word.
Okay, but one more thing.
Can we go up there? No?
When we go in, leave this here.
You don't need to get shot. Okay,
steve bannon
this is, and by the way, 60 Minutes didn't ask him one real question.
It didn't challenge any answer.
I mean, I don't know what the 60 Minutes guy is.
unidentified
You're just there to let Ray Epps do his rap?
steve bannon
Let me bring in Jim Hoff. Jim, you've even got more damning, which we're going to play in a B-roll, because I don't think there's sound, but help me out here, brother.
You know, we got Tucker is now on the beach.
Right? And Fox, and by the way, I read Conservative Treehouse today, and I love Conservative Treehouse.
I think they technically may have it.
I think, I could be wrong, but I've looked at a lot of these contracts before and dealt with a lot of these contracts.
Tucker was working on an extension of his contract to 2029.
He's still got a year or two, a couple of years on this contract at $20 million a year, as the Journal and the Times are reporting, New York Times.
They intend to pay him But it's not like he's got a separate NDA or he's got no disparity.
That's all in the contract.
They don't pay him to let him go to Gateway Pundit to start their TV network.
When you're paying him $20 million a year, it's like with Lou Dobbs and these guys that you're shut up, or even Megyn Kelly when she left.
You're on the beach somewhere getting your money, and when the contract runs out, you can go do what you want, but while you're getting the cash, you're bound.
So this is a huge deal.
He clearly, Tucker clearly has been all over J6. He's all over J6 so much the Speaker of the freaking House gave him 41,000 hours of footage that the committee panicked because we know they lied.
The first night he did it before Murdoch shut him down, everybody knows, on night two and three, he got the guy out early.
Now, people say, oh, is this time?
But hey, all I know is you showed the footage.
They had the thing. You could see the guy's totally innocent.
The judge never saw the footage.
The jury never saw the footage. The guy's out.
QAnon shaman's out two days later.
So something stinks to high heaven on this Ray Epps saying, Ray Epps, don't give me the big long face.
I don't want to see it. You're sitting there telling people go in the Capitol.
As a military operation, that's a breaching exercise down there at the bicycle rack on the lower thing.
He's the first one, the first guys in.
He leads the breach to get there.
And Hoff, you guys have come up with even more damning footage than even there.
So tell me, give me the first off, set it up.
And then I want to play this footage along with you maybe after the break.
But give me your sense of 60 Minutes, Tucker Carlson, this Ray Epps and January 6th brother.
jim hoft
Well, Steve, we did report on what you had said earlier today about Tucker Carlson's contract and that this may silence him through the 2024 election, which of course is an attack on Trump, to kneecap Trump right before the election.
This footage with Ray Epps, I think this is really the The death knell for 60 minutes.
It was the worst piece of journalism I think I've ever seen in my life.
It's infuriating that you saw what a fluff piece it was, as we expected.
But like you said, they didn't ask any hard questions.
They didn't ask him what he meant when he said go into the Capitol.
They didn't mention, as you just said, Steve, he was leading the charge through the first set of barriers.
At Gateway Pundit, we put up video of him leading the charge through the second set of barriers.
We came on your show and explained that one time.
The court had been playing with that video, but that was Ray Epps in the second set of barriers also.
What we have at Gateway Pundit, though, that 60 Minutes had...
They had no idea.
This is probably out there. Maybe they do.
They should if they did any investigating at all.
But Ray Epps was involved in criminal activity that day and severe criminal activity.
At least that's what the prosecutors have been telling us.
The DOJ has been telling us.
There are eight men in prison today for pushing this giant MAGA Trump sign, a metal sign at police on January 6th.
During the protests, we know it was Patty, our friend Patty McMurray from 100 % Fed Up, who first found this.
Ray Epps is pushing the sign.
He's right there when they're hurling the sign towards the police.
The sign went over dozens of people, dozens of men.
Ray Epps was never arrested for this, but we know at least eight men have been prosecuted and are serving up to 41 months in prison for touching the sign.
Some of these men who have been prosecuted, Steve, a young kid, his name is Brad Smith, he has 41 months in prison, he just put his hand up because it was going over his head and he didn't want to get hit.
unidentified
And so this huge sign was pushed towards police.
jim hoft
No policeman was injured, by the way, when this happened.
But it's Ray Epps who's seen here, cheering and pushing this sign as it's being hurled at police.
steve bannon
Hang on. We're going to take a break.
And what I want to do is I want to play that Memphis.
We'll play it from the beginning because this is another stunning development.
We're going to play it from the beginning and have Hoff give commentary.
Short commercial break. Back with Jim Hoff at Gateway Punt.
We've got Christina Bob about this situation in Arizona.
All next in The War Room.
unidentified
With Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back. Hoff, and if Memphis can, I'm going to bring Jim in, but let's do the split screen like you did, and let's start this footage from the top.
It goes about four minutes.
Tell me what we're seeing here, and how did 60 Minutes, and how did the prosecutors miss this, Hoff?
jim hoft
Yeah, isn't this something?
This is a violent assault.
The prosecutors at DOJ arrested several individuals that day who were at the protests, a lot of young men, who were touching this enormous sign as it was being passed over their heads and it was pushed towards the police.
Here's one view of it we're watching right now.
This is eye level.
You can see these guys touching this enormous sign.
It's getting pushed towards the police at the Capitol.
What we found was that Ray Epps is the guy over in the corner.
We circled it in the video.
He's holding the sign and pushing it at the cops.
Here is Ray Epps once again.
He not only was leading the charge when they broke through the two different barriers.
But now he's helping hurl this gigantic sign at the cops.
We should note that no police officer was injured in this incident.
It just, you know, got tossed on the ground.
But the DOJ called it an enormous battering ramp as they charged these young men with this criminal act.
And several of these young men are in prison today for up to four years for touching this sign.
That's all they did was touch it as it passed over their heads.
They didn't plan it.
They didn't have anything else to do with it except they push it towards police.
There's a different angle from above, a clearer view.
That again shows Ray Epps on the side of this flag, this giant MAGA steel flag.
Here is a different view.
And Ray Epps is in the red hat.
You'll be able to catch him here in a second.
And see, this is getting pushed towards police.
And there's Ray Epps right there.
We circle it. You can see it clear on our website.
There's Ray Epps's red hat, his tan coat.
And it's being pushed to police.
No cops were injured.
But these men today are having their lives destroyed.
They're in prison for, again, up to four years.
The average is three years for touching this flag.
And there's Ray Epps right there, Steve.
This has gotten no press at all.
This is a criminal act.
They lecture these young men as they go to prison and how dangerous they are.
And how irresponsible and what criminals they are.
You can see that Trump magazine even has a Jesus saves sign on it.
There's Ray Epps right there.
And yet, Ray Epps was never prosecuted for this either, Steve.
Never. And here he is.
I wouldn't be surprised, and I don't have proof of this, but we don't know who instigated this, but we could make a few guesses.
He's not been charged. They didn't even mention this on 60 Minutes.
You'd think that this premier news magazine would have had footage of this.
All they'd have to do is a Google search.
steve bannon
Before 60 Minutes, we got to get Gates and MTG and others.
This is why I keep calling for it.
They got to get a new hearing. I know the Republican Party, elections are all about the future.
That's crap. Elections about where the country is and how the country got here and how the country is going to go forward.
Anybody that sits there and tells you elections about the future is just trying to shut the F up and get out of your grill.
Okay? You're tired of it.
That's a Republican thing where they don't want to talk about facts.
I want to know why DOJ and the prosecutors aren't on that.
Screw 60 Minutes. I mean, 60 Minutes is bad, but they're doing a covering exercise.
Why are guys... First off, I don't know why young men are in prison because of that.
Okay, I've seen worse at football games, right?
I might have done worse at football games when I had a couple drinks of me when I was a kid, right?
I don't know why young men are in prison for that, but given that they are, why isn't Epps right with them?
Epps did two breaches.
He did the breach down below, he led the team, one of the teams that breach up above, and then he's right there where guys went to prison.
There's something that stinks to high heaven about this Ray Epps situation.
New York Times doing these cover-ups.
You think that's going to back off MAGA? No.
You've got Gateway Pundit.
You've got Darren Beattie. These guys are honey badgers.
We're not going to give this up.
And I don't care about Ray Epps sitting there.
Your life should be ruined.
Because you're sitting there right there instigating it.
You sat there the night before and the kids are calling you a fed because it's so obvious what you're doing.
You got 17, 18, 19, 21.
You got young people sitting there going, fed, fed, fed, because they understand what you're doing as an instigator.
The next day, do we have any other footage of any other individual that's sitting there and going, we have to go to the Capitol because that's where the problem is?
Let me write that down.
Let me take my number two pencil, right?
The guy in the camis in the red ball cap.
It's grotesque, and what you guys have done And the people that came to this footage is once again incredibly powerful, Jim, and we're going to get to it with you and make sure the right authorities see this and we start getting some answers.
And we would dare Ray Epps to come on Gateway Pundit for an interview or come on War Room for an interview and face this audience and sit there with your lies and that big old hangdog face and the tears coming down.
We don't see your tears. Who we got tears for is the young people in prison that you instigated.
That you instigated, Ray Epps.
That you instigated.
We got the footage and we got the receipts.
You instigated it.
You were sitting there telling people the night before when young people called you out.
And you did the next day when people were breaking from thinking just going to march up there peacefully.
You said, let's go in the Capitol.
That's where our problem is.
That's not Steve Bannon saying that.
That's not Jim Hoff saying that.
That's you saying it's on tape.
And then we got you breached the very first thing and you're running up there and 60 minutes doesn't say anything about it.
You breached that first.
If you had not breached that first bicycle rack, maybe none of this would have happened.
But Ray Epps, you did it, and it's on film, and now we got you on film from Gateway Pundit and the other great people that took that video and went through all the time and effort.
That's why we got to release this other 40,000-foot video.
I got to go, Hop, but I got to have you back on.
You got another story up there in Gateway Pundit, and my head blows up every time I read your site.
You've got the police officer that tried to stop Boylan from being beaten to death, She was sitting there getting beaten to death.
He tried to stop her.
And is he in jail?
Do I read that correctly?
jim hoft
Is he in jail? I believe the case is ongoing right now.
I'm going to get an update for you on that, Steve.
Yeah, it's tragic. But there were several individuals, of course, who got upset with Roseanne after she was killed that day and are serving a hard time.
Some have been locked up since January of 2021 for over 700 days now.
steve bannon
Unbelievable. Okay, Hoff, how do people get to Gateway?
How do they get to your personal media, social media?
jim hoft
Yeah, Steve, it's TheGatewayPonent.com and we're on Twitter again, Facebook and Truth Social and others, so I hope your audience looks right out there.
steve bannon
What's the, for you degenerate gamblers out there, what's the over and under of how long the Hoff stay up on Twitter?
unidentified
I'm just kidding. Joe is not back on yet.
jim hoft
Of course he's not.
steve bannon
Joe's a rabble-rousal, right?
Yeah, yeah. Joe's not back on because Joe's super anti-CCP and calling him out every day.
Elon Musk, who's owned by the CCP, is not going to let Joe Hoff back on.
Not going to happen. Anyway, Jim, thank you so much for coming on, brother.
jim hoft
Appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, Christina, Bob, here's another thing I don't understand.
So you're going to explain it to me simply because I'm a simple guy.
What in the hell is going on in Arizona with these?
I don't know. These are provisional ballots.
There are 8,000 ballots out there that are still not counted.
I got guys on social media today saying they're not counted.
And when they're counted, Cary Lake's going to win.
What is going on, ma'am?
christina bobb
Yeah, so these provisional ballots particularly relate to Abe Hameday's race for the attorney general.
And the good news with it is, when Abe Hameday's case was thrown out, he has now asked the court for a new trial, and he was granted oral argument.
So that oral argument will be heard May 16th.
So that's a great date.
We're all looking forward to see if he gets a new trial.
But the thing that's so interesting about this is the reason why he's requested this new trial is he was challenging the undervotes in his election, basically where the machines or the tabulators said that nobody was voting, the voter didn't actually make a selection on a particular race.
That's an undervote. And there were thousands of them that were counted as undervotes.
When you go back and look at it, and now that they've had an opportunity to do that, they realize, hey, some of these actually were votes that just weren't counted, that need to be counted.
And he challenged that.
And Katie Hobbs, who was the Secretary of State at the time, who ran the election did not disclose to Abe Hamide's legal team that she had a report saying that they were having problem with undervotes, that there were undervote occurrences that shouldn't be happening.
And she knew this before the election, and she knew this before his trial, and she did not turn over.
She didn't disclose that information to Abe Hamide's legal team.
And then the case got thrown out, and they say, hey, we realize now that she had all this evidence that she didn't disclose.
And so they've asked the court to have another trial to be able to submit the evidence that they weren't allowed to submit before, and the court has granted that request.
steve bannon
Now, for our audience, the difference in Hameday in the fake attorney general is just a couple hundred votes, if I remember correctly, like 218 votes?
christina bobb
That's right, 280 votes.
That's right. And so it's easier for him to close that gap, obviously, because it's only a few hundred votes.
Carrie Lake's case is slightly different.
She had to have other allegations that created a larger margin.
Now, the undervotes here, they believe would change, I say change the outcome of the election, although I want to make it very clear that it would actually put in office the candidate who the people actually voted for.
So it's not just switching the winner.
It's actually who did the people vote for?
In this case, based on the mathematics and the projections of these votes, if they actually are counted, remember, count every vote.
If they actually count these, it would appear that Abe Homeday actually was who the people of Arizona voted for.
And so he, therefore, should be the attorney general.
And that lends itself, I think, to Carrie Lake's case as well.
The people need to have the governor in office that they actually elected and that they voted for.
So there are different legal theories, different legal arguments, but I think it always begets truth and transparency, and I think that's good for everybody.
steve bannon
Christina, I think here's the thing that I think, because this race is watched by people all over the world, I think what's hard for people to grasp is that you always have these things pop up.
Well, she did a secret report, and we had to go to court and find out.
Why is this thing so convoluted?
Why is this thing so complicated?
It's pretty straightforward. You have two tickets, you have a game day vote, of course they got all this other stuff with the mail-in ballots, all this other stuff, but it takes them weeks and weeks and weeks to count everything, and now we're in We're almost in May, right? We're almost six months afterwards, and now we're finding out, well, hold it.
There was these provisional ballots, they weren't counted, and now we know that Secretary of State, she had a report that said there was a problem with the undervote, but we're just finding that out now.
Why is this thing in Arizona, given all the problems in 2020, still a mess?
And I got to tell you, I'm not feeling it.
For 2024, this is going to be another complete debacle.
You've got the Maricopa County crowd and all this.
It's going to be another complete debacle in 2024.
christina bobb
Yeah. Well, my assessment is Democrats have to do this.
I shouldn't even say Democrats. The establishment, the swamp in Arizona, has to do this on purpose.
They have to make it convoluted because they're not actually winning.
If they make it transparent and make it clear and easy for the people to see, the people will see they didn't actually win these races.
And so they have to make it complicated and they have to make it so there's all these court rulings and all of these Expert reports and all these findings where people go, you know, what?
Why is this happening?
They have to do that to make it confusing so people don't say, hey, you didn't win.
Get out of office. So I think I applaud Abe Hameda, I applaud Carrie Lake for continuing this fight and continuing to expose it and stick with it.
Because, you know, if they continue with this, I think they've got a shot at actually getting some truth and transparency.
And to your point about 2024, God knows Arizona needs it.
They need the transparency and they need honesty in their elections.
And I think this gets them one step closer to actually accomplishing that.
steve bannon
Do you have any sense, it's been pushed back from the Supreme Court on the signature verification, right?
Do you have any sense right now, because it looks like the lower court doesn't want to really handle this, do you have any sense when we'll either get movement or there'll be more testimony or other things will happen that will get some clarity on the governor's race?
Because Katie Hobbs is about as big a radical as she could possibly have.
Impossible that she won in a fair election, the governorship of Arizona.
christina bobb
I completely agree. I don't know the sense of timing on that, but I am encouraged by the fact that the court is dragging their feet, because I don't think they want to take it, because it's a good issue.
It is a good case.
And I think Carrie Lake should prevail.
And quite honestly, I think the whole political system is concerned, like, oh, man, we've had Katie Hobbs.
We installed Katie Hobbs, and we're going to get called out on it and have to inaugurate Carrie Lake.
I think they're concerned about that.
So the fact that it's You know, getting kicked around and delayed a little bit, I actually take as a good thing.
Obviously, it's never good to have a governor in office who wasn't actually elected by the people.
But that's where we're at at the moment.
So, you know, we have to work with what we've got.
But I'm very encouraged by Carrie Lake's case.
I think she should prevail.
She should get her new trial that the Supreme Court ordered.
We'll see what the court does with it.
But I actually think we've got some momentum on both of these cases.
steve bannon
Christina, how do people track you?
How do they follow you on social media?
And how do they go to your website? You got a book out that goes through all this.
That's very powerful, kind of a first-person account.
So where do people go?
christina bobb
Yep, you can go Stealing Your Vote, The Inside Story of the 2020 Election, What It Means for 2024.
It's available on Amazon.
You can also get it on christinabob.com and on Twitter at Christina underscore Bob, Getter and Truth at Christina Bob.
steve bannon
Christina, thank you for joining us, man.
unidentified
Appreciate it. Thank you very much.
steve bannon
Okay, we're in the middle of this debt fight.
There's going to be a bunch of developments overnight.
I'm going to get to you tomorrow morning in the 10 o'clock show.
I want to make sure everybody goes to birchgold.com slash war room, excuse me, slash Bannon.
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about the situation with this massive negotiation, which is all important.
We said in the previous hour, you've seen the story about the banks, the regional banks being put on credit watch, being downgraded by Moody's.
I mean, we're in it. We're in a mess and this is not going to go away anytime soon.
The thing that's driving this is this just overspending, this radical overspending by the federal government and to have the not able to sell the bonds to pay for it, not able to raise taxes.
We're just printing money. And we're going to cause, as Ed Dowd showed you last hour, just destruction to the structure of our economy and capital markets that are going to take us decades to unwind.
So I need everybody to go check that out now.
Plus, you'll understand, go to the Birch Gold experts, you'll find out why the central banks throughout the world are buying more gold than they've ever bought before at a faster pace than they've ever bought it.
As I say, I think the BRICS, I think the Global South is really going to a gold-backed, I think it surprised a lot of people.
Big article on the FT today to support that, the Financial Times.
Finally catching up with the War Room.
Philip Patrick of Birch Gold is going to join me, I think, trying to lock him in for at least an hour of the weekend to talk about all of it and explain to you The current financial condition in the United States, and quite frankly, where you as an individual fit in there, so go check it out.
We've got a lot to go through tomorrow morning.
It's going to be a packed show.
The rest of the shows this week, I'm going to have in-studio guests, a lot of special activities going on, a lot of things that we're going to talk about, bring up analysis for you, all the way from politics to what's happened culturally, the school boards, all of it.
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crom carmichael
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unidentified
How do people get it?
crom carmichael
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steve bannon
Thank you very much, Crom Carmichael.
Get salty today.
See you back here at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
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