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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
Welcome, it's Monday, 24 April, the year of our 2023 presidential election. | ||
Pretty, two big, pretty blockbuster stories already today. | ||
Susan Rice is out. | ||
She's leaving the White House and Tucker Carlson is leaving Fox. | ||
We're going to spend a lot more time on the Tucker situation in the six o'clock hour because we've got a lot of work to do here. | ||
We're going to get more up-to-date information on all that. | ||
I want to start. There's some confusion. | ||
I asked James Radofsky. James was at the World War III conference the early years this weekend. | ||
James, talk to us. You know, we had Reggie Littlejohn on this morning, and I want to make sure because our audience, this is a top priority from when you brought it to us, I think a couple of years. | ||
It was at least last spring. | ||
It might even be before that. | ||
You're an independent researcher. | ||
Talk to me about this WHO, WHA. Where do we actually stand in this? | ||
Reggie, we've got people going to our site to get ready to petition Congress because, quite frankly, there's just not enough activity on Capitol Hill. | ||
But where do we stand with all this right now? | ||
Well, the Assembly itself is in about 27 days. | ||
It starts on May 21, 30. | ||
The negotiations regarding the treaty and the proposed amendments to the International Health Regulations have been about as secret as you could imagine. | ||
They have had week-long meetings where they had a half-an-hour at the beginning And all they really told us was that they've been having secret meetings intercessionary, you know, between the official meetings. | ||
And it's just secrecy all around. | ||
And then they'll have a half an hour or an hour meeting at the end, you know, giving you a summary of what they talked about in secret. | ||
And so the news today that I just dug up is that my biggest concern about the whole pile of treaty and amendments centered around what the Indonesian health minister talked about back in November and it got signed into the declaration from Bali, the G20, is all centered around the Global Digital Health Certificate. | ||
Well, what they've been doing over the past week or so is uploading documents in preparation for the assembly coming in 27 days and report O in these documents stated that basically they're just going to do it. | ||
They're just doing it, Steve. | ||
They're just implementing a global digital health certification network. | ||
Forget the treaty. Forget the amendments. | ||
They're just busy implementing it. | ||
Now they say, oh, it's on a voluntary basis. | ||
Well, what they've been doing is building the infrastructure. | ||
If you could imagine, you know, the infrastructure needed to be able to track and trace everybody on the planet, right? | ||
I mean, you know, it's a large systems task. | ||
I actually studied computer science, you know, back before there were computers. | ||
And so the point of these documents, Report O, it's published on the WHO website. | ||
They essentially say, you know, they're working with partners to establish a global digital health certification network, which is intended to enable member states to verify the authenticity of vaccination certificates issued under the IHR. And so they buried it under an update report on yellow fever. | ||
If you go to Annex 6 and international health regulations, if people have traveled around the world, you may have gotten a yellow fever vaccination. | ||
And so they're expanding on that aspect of the international health regulation. | ||
They want to digitize it and then they would be able to expand it and nations could require whatever it is they they would like to require. | ||
And so You know, it appears in many ways. | ||
The treaty is the treaty. | ||
You know, they keep saying they're not going to do anything until 2024. | ||
The amendments, they keep saying they're not going to do anything until 2024. | ||
It sounds to me like they're arguing amongst themselves. | ||
But it seems on this topic, which has been my biggest concern, you can go to rejectdigitalenslavement.com. | ||
They're just going to do it. | ||
They're just implementing it. | ||
It's technology. | ||
It's just get all the systems built out, have interoperable databases, have every nation build out the systems that they need to plug into it. | ||
Europe pretty much already has it. | ||
They have a network in Latin America and the Caribbean. | ||
Probably the difficult sticking point will be the United States, because our database is a mess. | ||
Going back, if you look at me, if I'm anything, I started with studying computers and computer science and data analysis and how you build systems. | ||
Building these systems takes time, it takes money, and they're just doing it in the background. | ||
And so they put out a couple of reports. | ||
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Let's go to the World Health Assembly for a second. | |
What is this digital? | ||
It's not quite a passport. | ||
Be specific. What are they trying to implement? | ||
Everybody's got a health certificate. | ||
Is it constantly updated? | ||
I mean, just what is the core thing that they're trying to push out? | ||
Currently, you know, I actually happen to have one here. | ||
My girlfriend Marissa came from the Philippines in 1972, and she had to fill out, I can actually show you, hopefully you can see it on screen, right? | ||
There's a form that you get, literally, a vaccine passport. | ||
Now, some people may have these. | ||
This goes all the way back to the International Sanitary Regulations. | ||
You can find this in our, I'm sorry, Annex 6 of the International Health Regulations. | ||
Everyone has, you know, pretty much accepted if you're going to go to Africa or some area where there might be yellow fever, oh, I got to get a vaccination. | ||
They're trying to take that and just expand it enormously and digitize it so that any nation, they have four things that they've listed. | ||
It's primarily coming out of the EU. They want to have what people would call a vaccine passport. | ||
They're now calling it a vaccine certificate. | ||
They want to have a testing certificate. | ||
I think we should all know by now that the tests are completely bogus. | ||
They want to have a prophylaxis certificate, whatever that might mean. | ||
You know, maybe it means you have to take certain drugs as a preventative. | ||
And they want to have a recovery certificate, which might be, you know, testing for antibodies or some such thing, which is how they've manipulated all of the studies for vaccines. | ||
They don't actually give you immunity. | ||
They give you an immune response. | ||
You can measure antibody levels and claim that that, you know, is your protection. | ||
Really, Steve, it's a compliance certificate. | ||
Oh, you're a nice, compliant man or woman. | ||
You've allowed us to do this to your body or stick something up your nose to test you for this and that. | ||
And you're complying with the dictates of your overlords and your rulers. | ||
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You'll have a QR code. | |
Okay, before we get to that, where do we stand with, like, who's representing the United States? | ||
I remember we had a public comment time, I think it was last May around this time, correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
Everybody called in. We listened in. | ||
You know, we heard all the debates going on. | ||
People called in. Who's representing the United States? | ||
Is it a department? Is it a cabinet head? | ||
Who's representing it? | ||
How is this going to be paid for? | ||
Is the United States writing a check to the WHO to pay? | ||
Because these countries don't have money to pay for this. | ||
And is it a line item? | ||
Because we make this part of the budget fight. | ||
That's one of the woken weaponized things that are carved out of here. | ||
So let's start with who's representing the United States? | ||
In all of this, and actually have we committed, the United States committed to pay for it? | ||
What represents us at the WHO is two separate tracks because there is the treaty, right? | ||
And in the treaty, Antony Blinken, the Secretary of State, has named at an ambassador level Pamela Hamamoto. | ||
And all her contact information and stuff is on my site. | ||
For the amendments to the international health regulations, there's two people involved. | ||
A member, a vice chairperson of the working group to consider the amendments. | ||
His name is Colin McIve. | ||
He's a member of the But the person who is actually speaking on the floor is Mara Burr. | ||
M-A-R-A-B-U-R-R. In previous articles, I've put all their contact information. | ||
People can call them and send them emails. | ||
I can pretty much guarantee you they're not going to pick up the phone and they're not going to answer their emails. | ||
But those are the people who are responsible for speaking on our behalf. | ||
They have done no public comment whatsoever, you know, in regards to the amendments. | ||
In terms of paying for this, you know, this is just ongoing budgetary implementation. | ||
They're just building out computer systems, you know, in the grand scheme of things, you know, for the way we are just making money out of thin air, you know, this is a drop in the bucket for them to digitize. | ||
Don't. Don't, don't, I know a part of this was tucked into the National Defense Authorization Act, but on something like this, this is a treaty. | ||
Why is this, why are we in this conundrum where this does not have to come back to the Senate to be debated and then passed by two thirds vote? | ||
Why is this being treated differently? | ||
We're getting to the crux of the matter and the ability to talk to you about this on my birthday is the best birthday present I can have, Steve. | ||
Last year, okay, everybody has been just completely confused about this. | ||
The process by which the international health regulations are amended has got nothing to do with the Senate. | ||
It does not need a signature. | ||
People have cognitive dissonance about this, so let me try to explain it. | ||
If you hear somebody speak the word treaty, okay, you're talking about the wrong thing. | ||
The amendments to the International Health Regulations do not need a signature. | ||
They do not need the advice and consent of the Senate. | ||
And I can prove it with the greatest of ease. | ||
Last year, despite what people believed, The World Health Assembly did adopt amendments to five articles of the international health regulations. | ||
They would seek to shorten the time period by which they come into force legally. | ||
And so those five articles were amended last year. | ||
I've been screaming and yelling up and down about it for 11 months, and I finally get a chance to talk to you about it on The War Room. | ||
It's a cognitive dissonance that people have because we've been a member and party to the international health regulations for decades. | ||
Part of what we are agreed to is the method by which they are amended. | ||
And all that is needed is for 194 unknown, unaccountable, you know, elected, disappointed people like Mara Burr to get into a room in Geneva agree to change No other proactive action is needed. | ||
What is needed is what they call the silence procedure. | ||
We're already 11 months gone from last May 27, when they adopted five amendments to five articles. | ||
There's another seven months left where any nation can just reject them under Article 61 of the International Health Regulations. | ||
They can just say, no, you know, we see your amendments, thank you very much, but we'll pass. | ||
We reject them. That's possible for every nation on earth to do. | ||
There's been a public petition in the UK. There's a public petition in Canada. | ||
There's one pending in Australia. | ||
We don't have that kind of petition system in the United States. | ||
I've spoken to at least one senator. | ||
I'm supposed to be talking to another senator's office tomorrow. | ||
Everybody is asleep at the wheel in a coma. | ||
They don't realize that last year the international health regulations were amended and all that is required for that to become international law, seven more months to go by with just silence and ignorance. | ||
James, how do people... | ||
Let's get your site. | ||
What's the site? Where do people go? | ||
I know you explain all this on the site. | ||
Where do people go to to get, and we'll get you back on with Michelle Bachman and Reggie. | ||
We've got to get to the bottom of this. So where do they go to get all this information? | ||
The hardest part is spelling my name. | ||
It's James Roguski, J-A-M-E-S-R-O-G-U-S-K-I.substack.com. | ||
And if you want to take action, it's really simple. | ||
Go to exitthewho.com and start nagging on your congresspeople and senators to get us out of the WHO because they're trying to do all of these things in secret. | ||
And now there's evidence that they're trying to implement the Global Digital Health Certificate pretty much in the background with nobody known about it. | ||
Okay, we're on it. | ||
We'll make sure everybody gets to the site. | ||
I want everybody to go to James' site right now. | ||
And James, I'm glad you consider this a great birthday present, but happy birthday, brother. | ||
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Best ever, Steve. Thank you. You certainly don't look 63. | |
Let me say that. Okay, short commercial break. | ||
The Brian Kennedy joins us after a short commercial break. | ||
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We will fight till they're all gone. | |
We rejoice when there is no more. | ||
Let's take down the CCP. | ||
They have all. | ||
War Room. | ||
Here's your host, Stephen K. | ||
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Wow. | |
Talk about a mess. | ||
And with our sovereignty at stake, this is one of the reasons these budget debates, not even debates, is dogfight. | ||
Over the spending, you know, part of it is to get this woke and weaponized. | ||
And I've been an advocate since President Trump's first term, just pull the plug, get out of WHO. This is even before the pandemic. | ||
You know, Andrew Bremberg was our ambassador. | ||
There's two things to the U.N. I want to make it. | ||
I'm gonna bring Brian Kennedy here a second. | ||
There's two. The U.N. has two structures. | ||
It has the the General Assembly in the in the Security Council that you see all the time. | ||
That's on TV. That's in New York with the magnificent building. | ||
The cameras are there. It's always the drama. | ||
of people going up and addressing the General Assembly. | ||
That's really the performative part. | ||
And you take out the Security Council, that's obviously pretty important, but the rest is purely performative. | ||
The votes are always massively against us. | ||
Where the work gets done is the engine room in Geneva. | ||
And that's where you have really the operational functional units of the UN where your money is being shoveled over there like crazy. | ||
And that's where you have UNESCO, that's where you have the World Health Organization, all of it. | ||
And that engine room, and it's massive, with tens of thousands of employees, they got their hands in everywhere. | ||
As Brandberg told us, he came on the show about a year or so ago, the Chinese Communist Party is totally and completely infiltrated the entire thing. | ||
I mean, they essentially run the show to a large extent. | ||
And he said it's just incredible, their power, particularly when they put up virtually no money. | ||
You know, we pay for it. | ||
I've been a big advocate of day one, just pull the plug for the whole thing. | ||
Pull a plug for the whole thing. | ||
It's an absolute complete joke, anti-American, anti-true democracy, really totalitarian the way it's run. | ||
We should pull the plug in the whole thing. | ||
And this WHO, as you see from the pandemic, this is getting very scary now about our sovereignty. | ||
And the problem I've got is people on Capitol Hill are really asleep about them. | ||
You got Michelle Bachman, you got some real firebrands that are on it. | ||
But the National Defense Authorization Act, which is obviously quite important, but that's why they jam it down at the last second you have to vote. | ||
And I was like, I don't know. 2,000 pages. | ||
Right on page 900, you see where they've kind of backdoored a greed. | ||
Now, it can go to court, but kind of backdoored a greed to arrangements like this. | ||
I won't even call them treaties. Let me bring in... | ||
By the way, on Saturday, Philip Patrick is on. | ||
I want everybody to go to birchgold.com right now because we'll get you up to speed on the death fight. | ||
Again, the third free installment On my end of the dollar empire, this part being the debt trap. | ||
Also, you can go and find about your 401k, your IRA, all of that in a tax-free transfer into precious metals. | ||
We're not here to get, we give a lot of micro and a lot more macro, some micro economics on here. | ||
We don't get an investment advice. | ||
However, you should immerse yourself in information now. | ||
You know, Philip talked about the central banks throughout the world bought more gold in 2022, I think they'd ever done in history. | ||
And you've got the Bank of Japan, you've got Russia, you got India, you got China. | ||
Those guys are making a move. | ||
And my theory of the case is that we're now going to almost a gold standard with the bricks that are fighting us, the de-dollarization of the planet. | ||
is built around right now resources and resource backed by gold or these currencies, these countries like the ruble. | ||
Look what the ruble has done since he pegged it to gold. | ||
So there's something big going on here. | ||
And here's my point. You have to learn more. | ||
That's one of the things you try to do in everything. | ||
This is what we're trying to do in this World Health Organization is make sure we cut through the underbrush here so that you can have a clear understanding, but immerse yourself and then weaponize yourself. | ||
I want to bring in Brian Kennedy. | ||
Brian, the weekend seminar, and I just want your take on this because we said, hey, this is not the seminar, the Third World War, the early years, and I talked about the scale of this war, the urgency of the task ahead of us, but particularly how it's so unique in the fact that we've got a massive fifth column here that doesn't agree with our war objectives, is that the CCP goes down, America is victorious, and we don't shed any blood. | ||
We do this like we took down the Soviet Empire, the evil empire, with President Reagan. | ||
Give us your assessment of not just the weekend, but where we stand in this war and things like this. | ||
WHO is a perfect example where they're trying to seed out and bleed out American sovereignty every second of the day, sir. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. Great to be with you. | |
It was great at that weekend seminar with the American Freedom Alliance in here in Southern California to see so many members of the war room posse I must say, before I say anything else, that the War Room Posse is the real thing that gives me hope. | ||
I hear all, you know, I hear James Roguski and everything he's saying and Reggie Littlejohn on the morning show. | ||
Who I'm really inspired by is the War Room Posse. | ||
I got to meet 300 of them, or many of them anyway, on the weekend. | ||
They're an extremely smart, Articulate, passionate audience about defending human freedom. | ||
And it was there that I heard someone say, well, wait a minute, all this WHO stuff, talk about a central bank, digital currency, all these things. | ||
Don't we have leverage now that we have Congress and we have to vote for a debt ceiling? | ||
Can't we eliminate these bad things with our political power in Congress today? | ||
And where are the people standing up and using That we're defended from these otherwise ridiculous ideas that these international organizations come up with. | ||
We're still the United States of America. | ||
The Constitution is still the sovereign law of the land. | ||
It's still the supreme law of the land. | ||
It's the thing that gives us we have we have a natural right to live as free human beings and our Constitution protects us. | ||
Why aren't we using the parts of it that we have at our disposal to make sure that we remain a free people? | ||
That was one takeaway I got from the conference. | ||
The other is we live in a very dangerous world made more so by Joe Biden. | ||
That the only thing that's really going to get us back on the right track is getting Donald Trump back in office. | ||
A lot of the people there, interestingly, I couldn't find anybody who thought Ron DeSantis should be running for president. | ||
I'm sure there had to be some there. | ||
Almost everybody thought President Trump needs to be back in office. | ||
Ron DeSantis, great governor, he's our future. | ||
But when at that event, when you proposed or you speculated that if it wasn't Carrie Lake, it could be Robert Kennedy Jr. | ||
as vice president, the crowd erupted with an enthusiasm that I was, I personally was very surprised by. | ||
And so there's something going on in American politics where nationalism is that Donald Trump and you and the war room have been advocating for these past decade, really. | ||
That's rising up here. | ||
And so it's harnessing those forces, rejecting those ridiculous parts of international law. | ||
I mean, it's a shame we even have to talk about talking about our sovereignty with the WHO. That should be a non-starter here. | ||
That shouldn't even be anything that could pass any kind of muster. | ||
Senators and Congressmen should be rejecting that out of hand. | ||
But it's a lesson for us that the only way we're really going to be secure in our rights is to have a bigger Congress or bigger majority in Congress and to take over the Senate, but most importantly, get the presidency back again. | ||
Because so long as President Biden is entertaining these ideas and pushing forward with allowing the United States to be part of any of these international organizations, then I think the American people are in trouble and vulnerable. | ||
We find ourselves in. We're not physically prepared or intellectually prepared to fight the Third World War. | ||
And that's the real problem we have to deal with. | ||
I personally think... | ||
This was the thing of the weekend of having it. | ||
I want to get to your thought, but I want you to comment. | ||
The scale of this war, the scale of this conflict, the urgency, because they've already declared it on us an unrestricted war for the run of the tables, and the uniqueness That we have a fifth column here that we have to address, that everybody's not pulling the same way. | ||
What are your thoughts about that, about that kind of as a group, that this makes this very unique in American history? | ||
And we're certainly not prepared for it. | ||
I mean, the Warren Posse is now getting prepared for it, and they're the ones most sophisticated because we've been covering this for the last couple of years. | ||
But I talk, and I'm quite frankly, one of the reasons I wasn't able to make it out. | ||
I've been in a series of meetings and other things. | ||
And I'm kind of shocked sometimes I actually talk to very smart people. | ||
And this is like it's in the ether, but it's not part of how they think about the world right now and how dangerous a place of this. | ||
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Well, that's a great point, Steve. | |
I mean, when you talk about the fifth column, part of the fifth column are people who actually think the future is communist China. | ||
I know really smart people who think, well, look, we know China's a problem, but ultimately they're the ones who have 1.4 billion people. | ||
They're the ones who are going to have the dominant economic power in the world. | ||
And so we have to position ourselves now to accommodate them somehow or live with them somehow and make sure we don't ever go to war, which in effect is kowtowing to them. | ||
You look at our oligarchs. | ||
on Wall Street. That's what they believe. | ||
They believe that China is one, and now we have to transfer the wealth of the United States somehow over time to Communist China. | ||
And so they're going to oppose any president or congressman or senator who wants to stand up for American national security. | ||
Right? And so when you look at the Larry Fink's of the world or the Stephen Schwartzman's or the Steve Mnuchin, who was in the Trump administration, They're not standing up for the American people. | ||
They're standing up for a globalist concept, where the United States is one of many nations, and in a very important respect, a secondary part of that nation. | ||
And that's really, I think, where we find ourselves today, which is why any of these bad ideas have any oxygen whatsoever. | ||
The global elites, the oligarchs, Tucker Carlson is out today at Fox News. | ||
I can tell you, and I don't know any of the details, but in broad terms, it meant that Rupert Murdoch, as one of the media oligarchs in this country, and Tucker Carlson could not come to an agreement about something. | ||
And in that something, he took his most popular show and fired the hoops. | ||
No, it's amazing. | ||
The biggest show at Fox, which is the biggest cable network. | ||
We're going to get into more than that at 6 o'clock. | ||
Let's take a short commercial break. | ||
Brian Kennedy's going to be with us through the break. | ||
I got the Ben Harnwell. | ||
A lot to go through, a lot of wood to chop here in the War Room. | ||
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Back in a moment. War Room. | |
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | ||
So, Brian, give us your take. | ||
You're the guy I go to as a big thinker, you know, one of the best strategies around there. | ||
As we have to roll this out, And I said it's got to be an outside game and an inside game. | ||
The outside game is all the war and posse, MAGA, America first. | ||
Then the next is the Republicans and the conservatives that may not be on board. | ||
And then it's to the American people. | ||
That's the outside game. The inside game has got to be working, obviously, with Congressman Gallagher and other people on Capitol Hill to build the consensus here. | ||
But the first and then and then to infuse this into the 2024 campaign as a major topic, in fact the topic, at the same time be training up our own cadres for when we take over again. | ||
It won't be like 16 where we had the 4,000, you know, we have 4,000 political appointees that don't have to get Senate confirmed. | ||
And we're just not ready. We don't have the bench. | ||
We have to have the bench. | ||
We have to have the landing teams, the beachhead teams. | ||
I mean, we have to hit it right after we win in November. | ||
So walk me through your ideas of what plan we have to do to accomplish all that. | ||
Because if we don't drive this into the middle of the conversation, And part of this I know we're doing in this debt fight right now, but if we don't drive this into the one of the hearts of the conversation, we're going to lose this war or we're going to slide in because my theory of the case is victory without bloodshed. | ||
We will leave the no bloodshed part and have to get to an old fashioned kinetic war of, quite frankly, I think right now the Seventh Fleet's not quite up to it on the defense of Taiwan in the kinetic part. | ||
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Your thoughts, sir? Yeah, that's a great way of thinking about it, Steve. | |
When it comes to the inside game, the Committee on the Present Danger China is working with Congressman Gallagher and Roger Robinson, part of our team, and Frank Gaffney and I, we've met with Congressman Gallagher. | ||
We're going to continue to do that. | ||
We're going to work with his team to make sure that the experts on the Committee on the Present Danger China are working to make sure that the best arguments and explanations and analysis being presented to the Committee, and hopefully that's broadcast far and wide. | ||
On the outside game of talking to the American people, I think this conference we had in Los Angeles is the kind of thing that should be done all over the country, not only to talk to the war room posse, to talk to the American people, but to make sure these ideas are as relevant in Washington, D.C. as they are in Phoenix, Arizona, or in Atlanta, Georgia. | ||
Or in Detroit, Michigan, or anywhere in the country where we can make our case that the current administration is not making sure we are adequately defended. | ||
That that concern that Americans have is palpable, that there is something wrong, that a darkness has enveloped the earth, and that on a variety of fronts, war has broken out, and that there is something going on. | ||
Whether it's China preparing for war or the adoption of some of these ridiculous things like the World Health Organization issue you've been discussing, there's something that has to be addressed and making sure that as many people as possible understand that is extremely important. | ||
And so getting that level of knowledge up and then making sure those people are actively engaged, educating their friends and neighbors. | ||
I would not discount in any way the importance of village by village, as you often said, educating our fellow countrymen about what needs to happen. | ||
And then once it's clear that we have a path forward, let me be clear, we do have a path forward, it's just animating all the to move forward with this. | ||
And so we need to stop the inter-party bickering ultimately that there'll be a process of all that. | ||
But we need to actually get going here to build those landing teams to make sure we know how to take back the White House. | ||
Can we win the election? | ||
What will be required to do that? | ||
What will be required to have fair elections? | ||
Not so easy to do, but we have to win the elections and then we have to actually govern in a more serious way than we did during those four years of the first Trump administration when he was really at war with the administrative state. | ||
That administrative state really does need to be dismantled. | ||
And that theme that you broadcast Back in, I think, 2018 or 2017. | ||
I'm not sure. That really is the thing that we actually have to carry out. | ||
That may not be a so-called winning message in describing the crisis we're in, but that's actually the thing we have to do. | ||
And much more intellectual work needs to be done on that. | ||
I know the folks at Hillsdale College and the Claremont Institute are both spending a lot of time thinking about those things and making sure that when we do take power again, we can actually recover constitutional government. | ||
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We wouldn't be having any of these conversations if we were actually following our Constitution, which today in so many ways is inoperable. | |
People just don't believe it anymore in Washington. | ||
They don't think about it. | ||
We don't operate in a constitutional way. | ||
Constitutionalism, as a way of thinking through things, it's not there. | ||
Joe Biden and the Democrats in Congress, they believe that, administratively, they can go do whatever they want to, so they can adopt these rules through executive order and impose a kind of digital tyranny on the American people. | ||
And I can tell you, the American people are not going to sit for it. | ||
And I think that is, let them try, but we Americans are not going to allow our freedoms to be taken away by some bureaucrat, whether he's in Washington, D.C., or in Geneva, Switzerland. | ||
That's not going to happen. | ||
We need to wake the American people up and make sure that we're fighting on all fronts. | ||
In a day where Tucker's out at Fox, Don Lemon's out at CNN, probably the one that could have the biggest impact is Susan Rice's out at the White House. | ||
Give me a minute or two. | ||
You talk about the Constitution. | ||
She's been the enforcer from the Obama administration, making the Biden term really Obama's third and most radical term. | ||
Your thoughts on Susan Rice leaving? | ||
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She's extremely talented. | |
And I imagine they're going to move her from the White House to the campaign. | ||
And it will require all of her focus to make sure they haven't said that. | ||
But I imagine it's the case that she's going to focus on what will it take to get Joe Biden reelected. | ||
And that's not the job of just, you know, a few volunteers here and there. | ||
That will require major strategic thinking on the part of someone like Susan Rice and all the political and legal team she has underneath her. | ||
There is a massive network of people required to engage in the level of campaigning and election activity that the Democratic Party does. | ||
It's a massive effort that if they're at 100, the Republicans are somewhere around, you know, seven or eight. | ||
It doesn't even compare. | ||
The Democrats have to do so much more to win elections or steal elections, and the Republicans are not even playing in the same game. | ||
And so my own view is Susan Rice is leaving the White House to go organize and construct whatever it is they're going to need to do in 2021. | ||
I know people that mention her name hate her, but she's a tough hombre, very tough hombre. | ||
She and Holder were the enforcers. | ||
Obama's just drifting around. | ||
They're the enforcers, right? | ||
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And that's why she was plugged into the domestic laws. | |
We don't like these folks, right? | ||
But we don't have enough respect for how talented they are. | ||
We don't have these same people on our side, operational, right? | ||
We have a lot of good people on our side, but they're good people. | ||
These other folks, they're operational. | ||
We don't have the Mark Eliases and the Susan Rice. | ||
They're killers. Stone-cold killers. | ||
Brian, how do people get to you at American Strategy? | ||
I want to have you back on and spend more time in this debt fight on my favorite topic, Chinese government bonds that they stiff the American people on. | ||
But where can people get to you to find out more information on that? | ||
Where can they get to you to find out everything you're working on, particularly your social media? | ||
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Thank you, Steve. PresentDangerChina.org is a great place for the audience to go to learn more about what it is we do on social media. | |
I'm Brian T. Kennedy on Getter and on Truth Social and Brian T. Kennedy1 on Twitter, but I don't go to Twitter that often. | ||
I'm mostly on Getter and I encourage people to go to Getter. | ||
Brian Kennedy, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
Thank you for being at the conference. We're going to roll this out. | ||
Big League. Thank you, sir. | ||
Thank you, Steve. I tell you, we're going to have updates on somebody told his red wedding day. | ||
We have updates on the Don Lemon situation, Tucker Carlson situation, all of it in the six o'clock hour. | ||
But I want to get to signal, although that's got some pretty big signals in it. | ||
I want to get some signal. I got so Harnwell on your Saturday hit. | ||
I got buzz all weekend on this. | ||
And then the Chinese, she played this card. | ||
You had this incredible analysis and piece, I think from the Times of London, that talked about champagne and oysters In Kiev, it was like it was a takeoff on one day when General McClellan took over the army with President Lincoln and didn't really use it for about six or eight months. | ||
Some of the congressmen started saying, hey, it's champagne and oysters every night on the Potomac. | ||
We got to get this army to fight. | ||
I want to talk about particularly a bombshell over the weekend where the Chinese, I think, senior emissary Kind of just dropped a little dime on him and said, hey, you know, according to Beijing, we're not too sure about the sovereignty of all these former Soviet states. | ||
Aren't they just all part of, you know, Russia, maybe, and Ukraine and Crimea? | ||
And it hit like a bombshell that all these guys have been running to Beijing and, you know, Macron and, you know, Beijing, and we don't want the dollar and America's got to do it with Taiwan. | ||
All of a sudden, There are big efforts that Beijing's gonna pull everybody up, Beijing's gonna save everybody, and they can all run to the CCP and away from the United States. | ||
Not looking so good on Monday afternoon, is it, sir? | ||
Good afternoon, Steve. | ||
You're referring to the comments of Ambassador Lu Shay, who is the Chinese ambassador to France. | ||
He gave an interview on Saturday. | ||
I've actually got the International Bureau looking into the veracity of what he says here. | ||
His argument is basically that after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, The sovereign territories that came out of that, like Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia and what have you, they haven't been formally recognised as sovereign states in and of their own right. | ||
Obviously, that does strike one. | ||
Initially, it's been somewhat an unusual argument to make. | ||
Interestingly, those comments of Ambassador Shea have been roundly condemned, especially by these three countries specifically, but no one has actually said Historically, this is not true. | ||
These countries have been internationally recognised in this state. | ||
They just said that his comments are unacceptable and what have you. | ||
And they're quite understandable, expected outrage. | ||
I have, Steve, some analysis, if I may, quickly run through on this argument. | ||
The first is that the Chinese don't do their thinking aloud. | ||
They're not adventurers. | ||
They don't go in for brinkmanship. | ||
No, I gotta say, they're not guys, they're guys just don't throw, the guy in France just not throwing something out. | ||
That's all coming from the home office and they've studied. | ||
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A hundred guys have studied it for six years. | |
No, it's not an impromptu group. | ||
They don't call American football, we call them audibles. | ||
They're not a big name in audibles. | ||
You've got the party line. | ||
So somehow the ambassador, I tell you what, Ben, hang on, I'm gonna come back, I gotta take a short break. | ||
I'm gonna come back to Ben Harnwell. | ||
He got me laughing there. No, but this is—they don't wing it, okay? | ||
They're a—it's one of the reasons they're such a tough enemy. | ||
They've gone through some horrific times. | ||
They have killed more people than any regime in modern history, and I take that from, you know, the pre-Napoleonic war. | ||
They're an absolute killing machine, but they're deadly serious. | ||
They do not wing things. This whole issue about the sovereignty of these nations hit like a bombshell as it should. | ||
Short commercial break. Ben Harnwell, head of our International Bureau, located in Rome, will join us in the world. | ||
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Okay, welcome back. By the way, the timing of Governor DeSantis. | ||
Remember, I'm a big fan of what he's done as governor, because I think Disney and these corporations have to be taken on and have to be confronted. | ||
But I'm not a fan of this trip. | ||
I think it's very bad timing, particularly given all the controversy, right? | ||
You're not going to prove you've got international stroke. | ||
By taking a couple of days and going to shake a few hands of the Korean trading companies and the Japanese trading companies and having a couple of photo ops. | ||
Just bad timing, not a serious idea. | ||
And Governor Sanders is a serious person. | ||
So he's just getting more and more terrible advice from his consultants, from his handlers, and from the big money donors. | ||
Governor Sanders, you just have to understand. | ||
Hear what they have to say and remember, they're always wrong. | ||
This just has a terrible look to it, particularly given the timing. | ||
Everything that's going on in Florida and everything that's going on Really in this primary right now. | ||
Okay. Ben Harnwell. | ||
The controversy of the Chinese Communist Party is making a big move. | ||
This is all part of the Third World War. | ||
And one of the parts they're doing is politically and trying to defy people. | ||
They dropped a bombshell. | ||
All the clowns in Europe are all kowtowing. | ||
Oh, CCP is going to be here. | ||
They're not going to back Russia. Total lie. | ||
Russia's their junior partner. | ||
It's a merger. The CCP, the criminal organization and the KGB, they're underwriting. | ||
They dropped a bomb. On Macron and these guys to say, yeah, you know, I'm not even sure Ukraine's got its own sovereignty. | ||
And I'm particularly not sure that Crimea has sovereignty. | ||
I think it's part of Russia, sir. | ||
That's right, Steve. And interestingly, looking at these arguments, is that you would automatically assume, understanding the wider picture, that they're really sort of hedging arguments that they're going to use in the future with respect to Taiwan. | ||
And I don't necessarily think that's what they're doing here. | ||
I think it's actually rather more subtle. | ||
Firstly, let's look... | ||
Let's look at what they're doing here. | ||
They're using arguments about being internationally recognized, sovereignty recognized and international. | ||
Why are the Chinese using these terms? | ||
What are they doing? I think this is part of China's wider pivot, Steve, into being the new guardian of the rules-based international order. | ||
However absurd... | ||
That might strike. | ||
It does seem to fit a certain pattern of how China's measuring over recent weeks, if not months. | ||
I think this argument that they're using here with regards to these three Baltic states specifically underlines that. | ||
They're not saying Russia, you know, these countries are part of Russia, Russia's larger, Russia can just go in and take it. | ||
It's a bit more subtle than that. | ||
I'm just flagging that up the way they are posing this argument. | ||
They're talking very hard in terms of international law. | ||
And I think that's a genius masterstroke, right? | ||
Yes, it's a masterstroke. | ||
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It's a total masterstroke. | |
It would appear, Steve, that on the one hand, looking at this, that what they're doing, it is genius, right, what they're doing here. | ||
I think, you know, you were one of the first people, I think, to fundamentally start hitting this point about China. | ||
Of course, everyone's on this now, the Union Party's on it as well. | ||
But you've always said to look at the Chinese and to treat them with respect. | ||
Because they understand, they might be communists, they might be a thug, violent, criminal regime. | ||
But unlike a violent, thug, criminal regime, these people think things through in the long term. | ||
And I think generally in the West we've been underestimating them with regards to that. | ||
Specifically, let's look at the subtlety of what they're doing here then, because it would appear on the one hand that this is showing that their alliance with Russia is ironclad, wouldn't it? | ||
However, however, looking at this argument and saying, you know, these countries have never had their status recognised, there is another country, Steve, In the UN, who's a permanent member of the UN, Russia, and that hasn't actually ever been ratified either. | ||
All Russia ever did was basically assume the mantle of the collapsed USSR. Now, so what China might be doing on the one hand looks to illustrate as if its support with Russia is ironclad, but on the other hand, This is an argument that cuts both ways, and it could actually weaken Russia's position with regards to the U.N. if other countries wanted to push it in that direction. | ||
I actually think it's far more intelligent than— Yeah. | ||
We're going to get to the Ukraine situation on the spending tomorrow with you. | ||
We'll get you back on as part of the thing on the budget, because we've got to get to that. | ||
But I want to show—this is why we've got Ben, an Englishman in Rome. | ||
That's that Jesuit thinking around the Vatican. | ||
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That's so duplicitous that you got to love it, right? | |
The Chinese are doing this to show that the Russians themselves don't have the sovereignty. | ||
That's the great thing. This is why the CCP always hated the Vatican. | ||
Ben, we got to bounce. How do people get to you on social media and all the great work we're doing or have you back on tomorrow? | ||
Because what you talked about is Ukraine's got to be front and center in these budget negotiations. | ||
That has to be front and center. | ||
Where do people go to you for all your content, and particularly the special content you're putting up on the newsletter every day? | ||
Thanks, Steve. Well, if folks particularly want to see more of my beady-eyed cynicism with regards to international affairs, firstly, it's my Getter account, at Harnwell. | ||
There it is, at Harnwell, simply my surname. | ||
And then you also mentioned, look, no one's got more beady eyes when it comes to me when it requires a real cynical view here. | ||
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The other thing is the newsletter, right? | |
I say go to warwind.org, register for that newsletter, and that's where you're going to find my exclusive original content. | ||
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Ben will be back on tomorrow because he hit something very important. | ||
I have a story in the Times of London. | ||
They're living large in Kiev. | ||
You ain't living so large in East Palestine. | ||
We're going to get to that tomorrow. Ben, thank you very much. | ||
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